Coronavirus

[Santa Cruz]

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Im surprised Fife hasnt been moved up to Tier 3 to be honest.

I think they will be next week when they review the levels Councils are placed in.

Ahead of the review I noticed a record number of tests carried out today, just under 30,000.

[Sir David Gray]

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Im surprised Fife hasnt been moved up to Tier 3 to be honest.

There hasn't been a review yet, first one's on Tuesday. Sturgeon hinted the other day that Fife would be in level 3 from next week.

[Sir David Gray]

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West Lothian isn’t looking clever, I’d expect us to be put into Tier 4 along with Lanarkshire if there’s any upward movement after the review on Tuesday.

I can't see West Lothian going into level 4 yet to be honest. The level of transmission is still a lot less than in the west.

[Sir David Gray]

39,811 cases and 425 deaths registered in Italy today - tragic after what they went through in the first wave.

[Sir David Gray]

86,852 cases reported in France today.

Horrific.

[hibee]

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86,852 cases reported in France today.

Horrific.

They said it was because the totals were under reported in the last few days.

[Sir David Gray]

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They said it was because the totals were under reported in the last few days.

Ah right thanks wasn't aware of that.

Maybe not quite so bad then.

[Sir David Gray]

Concerns growing that the new strain found on mink farms in Denmark and which has now been spread to humans could potentially undermine the effectiveness of any future vaccines.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...tland-54853003

[G B Young]

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Ah right thanks wasn't aware of that.

Maybe not quite so bad then.

Even if under-reported, Friday's tally in France was still a record high number of infections. As you say the figures coming out of France and Italy are devastating - and we're not so very far behind in the UK.

[G B Young]

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Concerns growing that the new strain found on mink farms in Denmark and which has now been spread to humans could potentially undermine the effectiveness of any future vaccines.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...tland-54853003

More great news

[K-Zazu]

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86,852 cases reported in France today.

Horrific.

Horrific? They could all still be alive.

[G B Young]

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Horrific? They could all still be alive.

France recorded nearly 1000 Covid deaths on Friday. I'd say that's pretty horrific.

[KeithTheHibby]

Anyone think Edinburgh and the Lothian’s will move tier this week?
West Lothian maybe being the exception.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Concerns growing that the new strain found on mink farms in Denmark and which has now been spread to humans could potentially undermine the effectiveness of any future vaccines.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...tland-54853003

Except they are going to cull all mink so it won't be an issue.

Now would be the time to get a mink coat 😉

[Santa Cruz]

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Anyone think Edinburgh and the Lothian’s will move tier this week?
West Lothian maybe being the exception.

Nah, I don't think so, purely because West Lothian has higher case numbers and St John's covid wards are at capacity. It has the potential to impact the whole Health Board capacity, for that reason, I think for the time being they will continue taking a cautious approach.

[DH1875]

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Except they are going to cull all mink so it won't be an issue.

Now would be the time to get a mink coat 😉

Not the way they are killing them it wouldn't.

[Callum_62]

My grandad just died fairly out the blue. He had copd but within a few days he wnet for from fine (for him) to dead

Now that leaves my late 80 year old gran alone in her flat

Leaving her living alone surely isn't the right option so what are we "allowed" to do?

She has her 2 sons fairly close by in Edinburgh but she doesn't drive and obvious with her age isn't the most mobile. So basic essentials become a bit of a task now



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[CapitalGreen]

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Horrific? They could all still be alive.

This virus has been around for nearly a year now and it’s fairly obvious that with such a vast number of cases reported that a % of those will end up badly sick in hospital and possibly die. Trying to downplay the virus and the impact it has won’t make it go away, it just makes you look like a ****.

[Sir David Gray]

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Horrific? They could all still be alive.

They could be and the majority will survive but I'd hazard a a guess that out of 80,000+ cases, quite a significant number of those people will die in the next 3 or 4 weeks.

In a country that's already reporting daily deaths of more than 800 and hospitals nearing capacity, I'd say the number of new cases is horrific.

[stoneyburn hibs]

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I was wondering how you got on? Hoping to hear all is good.

Thanks for asking, I tested negative.

[Sir David Gray]

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Anyone think Edinburgh and the Lothian’s will move tier this week?
West Lothian maybe being the exception.

I would doubt it to be honest.

[Sir David Gray]

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Except they are going to cull all mink so it won't be an issue.

Now would be the time to get a mink coat 😉

It's already been found in humans though, it might already be too late plus they're not going to cull 17 million mink in just a couple of days.

[Sir David Gray]

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My grandad just died fairly out the blue. He had copd but within a few days he wnet for from fine (for him) to dead

Now that leaves my late 80 year old gran alone in her flat

Leaving her living alone surely isn't the right option so what are we "allowed" to do?

She has her 2 sons fairly close by in Edinburgh but she doesn't drive and obvious with her age isn't the most mobile. So basic essentials become a bit of a task now



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First of all I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Basically what Santa Cruz has already said but if you already have an extended household in place, you can't change this to another one.

Because of the circumstances, caring for a vulnerable person may trump everything else though and allow you to visit your gran in her home to see that she's alright. In those circumstances it would be irrelevant if you had already formed an extended household, you would be allowed to visit and see that she was ok and carry out any help that was required around the house.

[Santa Cruz]

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Thanks for asking, I tested negative.

Fab. Cheers for getting back

[Smartie]

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It's already been found in humans though, it might already be too late plus they're not going to cull 17 million mink in just a couple of days.

Denmark being Denmark, I’d expect them to have a fairly handy test and trace system in place.

Are the mink wild? If they’re kep captive pre-culling, surely there is minimal risk of them spreading it? I honestly don’t know.

Now we know of the spread between humans and mink, surely that can all be managed as well? Things such as humans wearing heavy duty PPE to prevent spread.

It’s obviously not good news but I don’t see why it must be catastrophic.

It would be worse in this country. We’d have it spread far, wide and totally out of control whilst we debate whether or not the economic damage of culling the mink was worth enduring. What about house prices and the value of our pensions?

[McD]

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Thanks for asking, I tested negative.

good to hear mate

[stoneyburn hibs]

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good to hear mate

Cheers mate

[Sir David Gray]

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Denmark being Denmark, I’d expect them to have a fairly handy test and trace system in place.

Are the mink wild? If they’re kep captive pre-culling, surely there is minimal risk of them spreading it? I honestly don’t know.

Now we know of the spread between humans and mink, surely that can all be managed as well? Things such as humans wearing heavy duty PPE to prevent spread.

It’s obviously not good news but I don’t see why it must be catastrophic.

It would be worse in this country. We’d have it spread far, wide and totally out of control whilst we debate whether or not the economic damage of culling the mink was worth enduring. What about house prices and the value of our pensions?

Hope you're right. There seems to be quite a fair bit of concern at this development. Hopefully it's unfounded.

[I'm_cabbaged]

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Hope you're right. There seems to be quite a fair bit of concern at this development. Hopefully it's unfounded.

The big problem about it is that all the vaccines won’t work on this strain.

[Sir David Gray]

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The big problem about it is that all the vaccines won’t work on this strain.

Yep that's my worry.