2022-23 season non-Hibs games thread

This appears to be very morale boosting for Hearts. They must feel great.

Scottish football is rotten to the core. There are Celtic and Rangers sympathisers in every other club in the league and the OF are untouchable. Exception could be Hearts who seem to have the majority of BBC punters rooting for them. So much for impartiality.

Devlin stumbling in the box


again

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Originally Posted by Feed McGraw

We beat Hamilton Accies 11-1 in the mid sixties too although that was at home.

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I was there. Pouring wet as I recall but it was always tipping down in those days. That's why Edinburgh had so many cinemas. Shelter from the constant rain.

I see the diving penalty cheat has been dumped from the squad completely

Would have probably have been too much for the maroon mutants if he had've been on the pitch

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Originally Posted by Bridge hibs

We want 9 🤣

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just this one with no more scoring will be acceptable

In their last four games Dundee United have conceded on average a goal every fifteen minutes.

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Originally Posted by Feed McGraw

We beat Hamilton Accies 11-1 in the mid sixties too although that was at home.

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I was there !

November 1965

We also scored 11 against Alloa in same season in L/Cup

Link to Hamilton game article/match report

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/haple...r-1965-1719253

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Originally Posted by Feed McGraw

We beat Hamilton Accies 11-1 in the mid sixties too although that was at home.

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just checked, 1966



i do vaguely remember us clobbering St Johnstone(or even Ayr?) at ER in the next game after the 7-0 tynecastle games, i thought at that time it was going to happen in just about every game :)

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

oh my

0-1 carey

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That's a potential Heartbreaker. 😁

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Originally Posted by wallpaperman

There should be some kind of revenue sharing like in some American sports where the rich teams pay a penalty that’s shared amongst the less affluent clubs (ironically some of those less affluent clubs are probably still owned by billionaires but the point stands). Make the uglies share some of their riches, it could be done.

All other clubs apart from the old firm hold the upper hand in Scotland, the clubs either don’t realise it or are too scared to do anything.

We need to threaten them with breaking away from the old firm and leave the two of them isolated because there is not a hope in hell they will be welcomed into the EPL. They can piss off to the Irish league or somewhere else that would take them.

I’m completely serious here, something drastic needs to be done.

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I think Stuart Cosgrove was on sportsound yesterday saying something similar. He got a bit muddled in his argument when the old firm fanboys starting shouting him down, he trying to be to intelligent about it.

It’s all set up for us to be getting 3/4th place as hearts will struggle we really need to get finger out

1-1

1-1 heartz

Powerful header that

1-1

Crap defending to be fair

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Carey is a skillful player.

2-1 Hearts.

that's the game won

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Originally Posted by heretoday

I was there. Pouring wet as I recall but it was always tipping down in those days. That's why Edinburgh had so many cinemas. Shelter from the constant rain.

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Me too, you'll be right but I don't recall the rain, even though as you say it always seemed to be raining back then 😆.

What is the centre half doing there? [emoji23][emoji23]

2-1 hearts

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

2-1 Hearts.

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Uncle Albert gets some goals for them. St Johnstone defending straight out the Hibs playbook.

Gerrard 10 minutes away from the sack

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

Gerrard 10 minutes away from the sack

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He'll never manage the reds. Maybe Swindon.

1-1 Newcastle

Peach

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

1-1 Newcastle

Peach

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Saint-Maximin is a beast of a striker.

That's. Boyce injured again

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Elliot Anderson hits the bar for Newcastle

Guess he ain't coming to Scotland on loan!

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A lot of villa fans pretty unhappy with McGinn recently, performances not been great.

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Originally Posted by hibees 7062

Is Mulgrew worth a punt ? I thought he was Uniteds best player

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yes, hes the sort of playerwe should have went for when he left Blackburn. Too late now.

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

Saint-Maximin is a beast of a striker.

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more a winger, but great to watch!

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

Gerrard 10 minutes away from the sack

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I thought the previous guy, now at Norwich was doing ok but they wanted a ‘big name’ to come in

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

just checked, 1966



i do vaguely remember us clobbering St Johnstone(or even Ayr?) at ER in the next game after the 7-0 tynecastle games, i thought at that time it was going to happen in just about every game :)

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November 1965 v Hamilton. The 8-1 game v Ayr was a couple of weeks before the 7-0 game a week after we won the league cup - which was paraded round the ground that day too.

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

That's. Boyce injured again

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Apparently a bad one, maybe a broken leg, some hearts fans wondering if thats him for the season

2-2 st j

considine 2-2

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Originally Posted by green day

Apparently a bad one, maybe a broken leg, some hearts fans wondering if thats him for the season

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Annoying that he couldn’t have waited a few days as they’ll probably get a replacement in now

St Johnstone look decent the last 10 minutes I have watched. Quite sad that they seem to be able to move the ball far quicker than us

Carey has a very skilful left foot for Saints. More goals in this game

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Originally Posted by green day

Apparently a bad one, maybe a broken leg, some hearts fans wondering if thats him for the season

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He wouldn't still be sat in the stand if he had a broken leg

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Originally Posted by wookie70

He wouldn't still be sat in the stand if he had a broken leg

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Ta, Obviously not as bad as some thought then :aok:

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Originally Posted by wookie70

He wouldn't still be sat in the stand if he had a broken leg

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Yep no chance

Atkinson now off injured too

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Hearts have just made a 4th substitution with a 4th stoppage. I thought the rules meant you could only have 3 stoppages for substitutions?

League looks absolutely brutal again this season. Anyone who strings a few decent months together will get top 6.

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

Hearts have just made a 4th substitution with a 4th stoppage. I thought the rules meant you could only have 3 stoppages for substitutions?

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Were any an half time. Also I wonder if Atkinson could be deemed to be a check for concussion. Is that a substitution, not sure

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Originally Posted by wookie70

Were any an half time. Also I wonder if Atkinson could be deemed to be a check for concussion. Is that a substitution, not sure

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None at half time.

Atkinson was holding his side so not sure it can be concussion.

Forest 0-1 Spurs. Kane

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

None at half time.

Atkinson was holding his side so not sure it can be concussion.

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With Hearts players they could be holding their posteriors and it could be deemed concussion. From what I can see it is still 5 subs in three stoppages. Knowing Hearts they will lose 3-2 get pulled up for the subs and be awarded a draw

Nice 0 Marseille 3 FT in the derby. At least 6 current or ex Arsenal players involved!

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

League looks absolutely brutal again this season. Anyone who strings a few decent months together will get top 6.

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Like St Mirren.

Penalty Hearts.

3-2 Hearts

Penalty hearts

What a stupid tackle

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Originally Posted by wookie70

With Hearts players they could be holding their posteriors and it could be deemed concussion. From what I can see it is still 5 subs in three stoppages. Knowing Hearts they will lose 3-2 get pulled up for the subs and be awarded a draw

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I believe you are allowed to make additional subs for concussion injuries but the rule remains 3 breaks of play otherwise

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

Penalty hearts

What a stupid tackle

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Idiotic tackle by Gordon, McKay going nowhere

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Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby

I believe you are allowed to make additional subs for concussion injuries but the rule remains 3 breaks of play otherwise

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There hasn’t been any concussion injuries. 3 leg injuries and a tactical change.

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

There hasn’t been any concussion injuries. 3 leg injuries and a tactical change.

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I'm not watching the game but if ST Joh stone have had any concussion subs then Hearts would get an additional sub opportunity too.

Jamie Murphy looks like he has hired Doidge's caravan for the day. So slow

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

There hasn’t been any concussion injuries. 3 leg injuries and a tactical change.

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Think the last one followed the player "landing heavily". Means he's out of next game automatically

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Originally Posted by MelbourneHibees

I'm not watching the game but if ST Joh stone have had any concussion subs then Hearts would get an additional sub opportunity too.

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I'm sure Hallberg was a concussion injury

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

I'm sure Hallberg was a concussion injury

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Yeah you’re right which will have given Hearts an extra change.

Forest v Spurs is dreadful so far 🥱

missed this

Hearts 3-2 St Johnstone

Oh dear, Drey Wright.
Big, big chance for St Johnstone as a cross falls invitingly for the winger at the back post, but composure deserts him and his effort is miles too high.

The thing about Hearts is they battle. They are not a good side, but they are resilient and will battle for points. I would make them favourites to finish third.

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

The thing about Hearts is they battle. They are not a good side, but they are resilient and will battle for points. I would make them favourites to finish third.

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They'll finish third easily, by at least 10 to 15 points. Even if they're not a great side they have a bigger, more adaptable squad than anyone else, with plenty cash coming in via Europe for the next transfer window. A position we should have been in. Instead we'll be circa 30 points behind them on current evidence.

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Originally Posted by He's here!

They'll finish third easily, by at least 10 to 15 points. Even if they're not a great side they have a bigger, more adaptable squad than anyone else, with plenty cash coming in via Europe for the next transfer window. A position we should have been in. Instead we'll be circa 30 points behind them on current evidence.

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30 points behind, it gets better and better on here

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Originally Posted by Aldot1981

30 points behind, it gets better and better on here

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Unreal eh 🤣

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

The thing about Hearts is they battle. They are not a good side, but they are resilient and will battle for points. I would make them favourites to finish third.

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They certainly create a heck of a lot more scoring chances than we ever seem to do.

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They'll finish third easily, by at least 10 to 15 points. Even if they're not a great side they have a bigger, more adaptable squad than anyone else, with plenty cash coming in via Europe for the next transfer window. A position we should have been in. Instead we'll be circa 30 points behind them on current evidence.

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Ffs

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Originally Posted by plhibs

They certainly create a heck of a lot more scoring chances than we ever seem to do.

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Yes, and more than that is their work ethic. If a team fights for every point, that's all fans ask. They are poor to watch, but they are always competitive. We were like that against The Rangers, but we don't seem to do it consistently.

How is that not a red card in a forest game? Kane is heading that in

Is that a misprint? Dundee Utd 0 - 9 Celtic?

I’m beginning to feel a little better about the departure of Jack Ross. What the hell is going on there?

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Originally Posted by stuart-farquhar

Eventually some clubs will (happens already) simply let them take over their grounds for the ticket revenue.

Short gain for long term loss of a real sporting challenge and pride. I had my hair cut yesterday by a bloke from Haddington who couldn't stop talking about Celtic in the forthcoming champions league. His father I know was a Hibby. I didn't ask why he wasn't - I kinda knew anyway as we all do. The question is how do we stop from falling further behind. I used to scoff at a league without them. Now I would go for it.

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In the past I never supported the idea of a league with no OF, but it pains me to say they are now too big and too much better off financially, than the rest of the league, some way of moving them out of Scotland has to be on the cards.

That Richarlson is cheating diving ******* ! Cringeworthy

That goal was coming.

Richarlison showboating then gets emptied for his trouble!

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

The thing about Hearts is they battle. They are not a good side, but they are resilient and will battle for points. I would make them favourites to finish third.

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Also the difference between us and them over the oast few years of from when I've seen them play they like to get the ball forward as quick as possible.

Harry Kane is a glaikit looking and sounding ****, but he's some striker.

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Originally Posted by Tambo

Also the difference between us and them over the oast few years of from when I've seen them play they like to get the ball forward as quick as possible.

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That's right. Not so much fannying about with it back and across.

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

Harry Kane is a glaikit looking and sounding ****, but he's some striker.

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Don't think him and Son look anywhere near as sharp as they did last season. From the games I've seen Spurs haven't even been that good, 10 points though including 7 points from fixtures they lost last season. Another game they lost last season in West Ham away on Wednesday.

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Is that a misprint? Dundee Utd 0 - 9 Celtic?

I’m beginning to feel a little better about the departure of Jack Ross. What the hell is going on there?

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Yup. Must be getting sacked tomorrow. I can't think of a worse start to anyone's managerial career than him at Dundee United.

They have also backed him pretty well in the market so no excuses.

I wonder if his backers on here have changed their opinion.

Jack Ross and Gerrard to be back on punditry within the next week surely

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Originally Posted by cameronw-hfc

Jack Ross and Gerrard to be back on punditry within the next week surely

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Villa can afford to pay off SG, not sure United can do likewise with Jack
He wouldn’t have gone to United without a watertight contract

I'm watching Real Madrid, it's like watching Hibs.

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Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY

I'm watching Real Madrid, it's like watching Hibs.

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Do they also not have a striker, a playmaker, an outfield captain or a strong enough central defence?

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Originally Posted by One Day Soon

Do they also not have a striker, a playmaker, an outfield captain or a strong enough central defence?

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Looks like it from about 30 minutes onwards.

Had a 10er on RM @ 3s -1 goal at ht, not sure what I watched but, cheers!

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

Villa can afford to pay off SG, not sure United can do likewise with Jack
He wouldn’t have gone to United without a watertight contract

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I've never actually had one example of a club genuinely unable to pay off a manager. United will lose far more money if they keep getting beat. They will also have cash reserves like most clubs I'd imagine.

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Yup. Must be getting sacked tomorrow. I can't think of a worse start to anyone's managerial career than him at Dundee United.

They have also backed him pretty well in the market so no excuses.

I wonder if his backers on here have changed their opinion.

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Ross did a great job at Hibs and was pushed out the door way too early imo, what he's doing elsewhere has no bearing on his time with us.

Would assume United are sounding out Michael O'Neill

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Originally Posted by One Day Soon

Do they also not have a striker, a playmaker, an outfield captain or a strong enough central defence?

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An outfield captain? Strange outdated requirement

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Ross did a great job at Hibs and was pushed out the door way too early imo, what he's doing elsewhere has no bearing on his time with us.

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Yes he got us 3rd but the next season was a car crash, he was rightly sacked at the time, the club made a huge mistake hiring Maloney. Ross done well at lower level but has struggled at Sunderland, us the 2nd season and now at Dundee United, he seems tactically inept as we seen getting beat by St Johnstone twice in cups.

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Yes he got us 3rd but the next season was a car crash, he was rightly sacked at the time, the club made a huge mistake hiring Maloney. Ross done well at lower level but has struggled at Sunderland, us the 2nd season and now at Dundee United, he seems tactically inept as we seen getting beat by St Johnstone twice in cups.

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Nice cherry picking there, I'll leave you with your flawed opinion and not hijack the thread with nonsense about Jack.

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Nice cherry picking there, I'll leave you with your flawed opinion and not hijack the thread with nonsense about Jack.

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Indeed.

"Turnbull was tactically inept, losing to Celtic about 6 times in cups"

Any manager sounds hopeless if you focus entirely on the negative things they done.

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Indeed.

"Turnbull was tactically inept, losing to Celtic about 6 times in cups"

Any manager sounds hopeless if you focus entirely on the negative things they done.

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Slightly different given Celtic’s standing in football at the time though no? Losing to St J 4 times in a season the same way each time isn’t really acceptable.

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Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee

Slightly different given Celtic’s standing in football at the time though no? Losing to St J 4 times in a season the same way each time isn’t really acceptable.

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If you judge us purely on results against st Johnstone then yeah. I'd kill for that season again now

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Slightly different given Celtic’s standing in football at the time though no? Losing to St J 4 times in a season the same way each time isn’t really acceptable.

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if he’d worked out how to play against st johnstone he would have been one of the most successful managers in our history. And that’s a very strange sentence to type and read back, but I stand by it.

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Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia

if he’d worked out how to play against st johnstone he would have been one of the most successful managers in our history. And that’s a very strange sentence to type and read back, but I stand by it.

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You are right. We’d look back fondly and it would have given him more time last season but not sure he’d have turned it around particularly given we are a year on from his sacking and no further forward. We’ll never know now.

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if he’d worked out how to play against st johnstone he would have been one of the most successful managers in our history. And that’s a very strange sentence to type and read back, but I stand by it.

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When it came down to it he didn't though. Two failed attempts against St Johnstone at Hampden, did we even have a shot on target in the cup final? ��

Finished 3rd in a season where there were no supporters and every club were crippled financially by the pandemic. That season saw the decline of Aberdeen begin and Hearts not in the league, who battered us a week or two before the football shut down and then beat us after hardly playing a game for 7 months in the semi final.

We qualified for Europe and got slapped about in Croatia. Then we saw the beginning of the end for Ross, 4 points from a possible 27 in his last 9 games. He was leading us into a relegation battle and that was with both Boyle and Nisbet available. Come January when Boyle would have left, who was the only spark we had those few months, it would have got messy.

Sacking him was absolutely the right thing to do. I think that is being backed up with his Dundee Utd form even after the money they have put towards new signings this summer. 5 points from his last 13 league games as a manager. Due another sack and I doubt he will get another top 6 six job in Scotland again. My guess will be following the journey of someone like Paul Hartley, managing in the lower division or somewhere like League 2 in England.

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When it came down to it he didn't though. Two failed attempts against St Johnstone at Hampden, did we even have a shot on target in the cup final? ��

Finished 3rd in a season where there were no supporters and every club were crippled financially by the pandemic. That season saw the decline of Aberdeen begin and Hearts not in the league, who battered us a week or two before the football shut down and then beat us after hardly playing a game for 7 months in the semi final.

We qualified for Europe and got slapped about in Croatia. Then we saw the beginning of the end for Ross, 4 points from a possible 27 in his last 9 games. He was leading us into a relegation battle and that was with both Boyle and Nisbet available. Come January when Boyle would have left, who was the only spark we had those few months, it would have got messy.

Sacking him was absolutely the right thing to do. I think that is being backed up with his Dundee Utd form even after the money they have put towards new signings this summer. 5 points from his last 13 league games as a manager. Due another sack and I doubt he will get another top 6 six job in Scotland again. My guess will be following the journey of someone like Paul Hartley, managing in the lower division or somewhere like League 2 in England.

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I realise that. That’s what I meant when I said it was a strange sentence. The very idea that St Johnstone were the only thing standing between Jack Ross and an exceptional place in Hibs history is mind boggling. Yet it’s true.

two trophies and a third place finish would have put him on a very high pedestal