What if he offers to play for free without contract?Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashinGlass
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What if he offers to play for free without contract?Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashinGlass
Isn't it a registration ban, though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedway
Unless it's a trialist, every player has to be registered with the SFA, IIRC.
He'd still need registered I think which they can't do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedway
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Originally Posted by Caversham Green
Boom Boom. :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Doddie
So does that mean that lads who show up from junior clubs will get turned around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Almost certainly :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Speedway
Just back after being away all weekend and this was the first thing I saw in the EEN, I simply do not believe this story, they are still lying through their rotten teeth, anyone in the their right frame of mind who has has 6 offers of higher wages to stay at this looney asylum is either a liar or a nutcase....
Dream on yams...
He's working undercover for us. I hope he does a better job than he did when he was in our dugout!
:thumbsup::greengrin:top marks:not worth:na na:Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
Reading that briefly, doesn't look like a registration embargo can be imposed.Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
Or have I misread it?
What is this likely to mean in real terms?
Hmmmmm, interesting..... very interesting!!:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by green glory
It doesn't cover any potential punishment at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Yes it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by BarneyK
"Disciplinary Rule 14: Full membership or associate membership may be suspended or terminated, or a fine may be issued, in any of the following circumstances:-"
Only allows for suspension or termination membership or a fine. I'm sure they will make up an alternative though!Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
That's SFA though. Do the SPL (or whatever) still have to think up a punishment in addition to the 15 points? They also still have an SPL hearing due for not paying wages.
Ah ok. Of course. It'll be a fine then. Chuck it in with the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
How about the entire squad walking down Easter Road, naked except for a green scarf?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Wellllllll, Bryan Jackson did say he didn't want a fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by BarneyK
Termination it is then. :greengrin
Seriously, though, depending on the size of the fine, BJ may be right about it tipping them over the edge. Didn't RFC get one of £100k? Or was that for the whole Whyte stuff?
Any new fine would need to be met though wouldn't it? Admin only protects the stuff piled up before does it not?Quote:
Originally Posted by BarneyK
Fifty grand fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by BarneyK
It'll be a fine, then the SFA will have to accept a p/£ piss take in the CVA.
Not sure the SFA has the guts to suspend or terminate their membership.
Cannae see how it can be construed as an alleged breach, they went into Admin last month, nae alleged about it.
This is purely for the insolvency event (ie administration) and, at best, it will involve a fine of some description.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Transfer embargos etc. will be dealt with seperately and be down to other aspects of their troubles (ie non-payment of wages).
Nope will be due in hard cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
No, it will be treated as a football debt and it will need to be paid in full. If they do not pay in full they will not be granted a license to play football in the Scottish League (be it SPL or 3rd division).Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
Thought punishments were a fine, embargo or censure.Quote:
Originally Posted by BarneyK
Dunfermline got an extended embargo.
Hearts descent into insolvency has been littered with non payment of wages, non payment of taxes, non payment of creditors, wind up orders, ridiculous wages paid they couldn't afford, false assurances on solvency, plain lies and crazy outbursts from the clubs owner against the SFA.
They are surely desrving of the most serious sanctions but the administrators have already pleaded for no fine and buyers have already declared their intention/desire to be buying players before the window shuts.
Just how the SFA will manage to engineer issuing a 'punishment that isn't a punishment this time' is anyone's guess.:cb
Dunfermline's transfer ban will remain in place until at least the end of the year following a Scottish FA disciplinary hearing.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
The Pars were already subject to a Scottish Football League-imposed ban on signing players over the age of 21 whilst they remain in administration.
And the SFA says the embargo should continue until the end of 2013.
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“I hope that we can now put these issues behind us and continue the battle to keep the team afloat
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Bryan Jackson
Dunfermline administrator
The club's administrator Bryan Jackson described the hearing as "fair" and said an appeal was "unlikely".
"They adequately took into account the specific circumstances that we face at Dunfermline," he explained on the club's website.
"I recognise that they had to impose a penalty on the club for going into administration and believe that the transfer embargo until 31 December 2013 on players aged over 21 matches, to an extent, the existing SFL sanctions and is a reasoned response from the SFA.
"Whilst we are awaiting the written official judgement it is unlikely that we will be appealing this decision."
If BDO run Hearts profitably between now and them exiting administration who gets any surplus funds if they dont go to the creditors?Quote:
Originally Posted by Part/Time Supporter
I am, however, pretty confident an overall deal has been done and its now just a case of how long it takes to satisfy the legal formalities.
Rangers received fines of £160k. These consisted of £50k for the administration, £100k for bringing the game into disrepute and £10k for Craig Whyte being a twat (or something similar).Quote:
Originally Posted by BarneyK
Dunfermline escaped a fine (due to mitigating circumstances) over the £134k tax bill that put them into adinistration, but they did get their signing embargo extended to offset this.
I would expect Hearts to receive a £50k fine for the administration event and either a further one for bringing the game into disrepute or a specific (lengthy) transfer embargo.
Fat old Yam tube. Hope he properly snaps at the PBS and has to be sectioned.
They should have forced the *******s to keep Ngoo!Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Danny who? If they've spent money they don't have signing somebody they already had on their books who cares? If the Yams are creaming themselves about that then it's simply hilarious, not a cause for moral outrage?
Has anyone had the foh email today from ryan macgowan, apparently he is watching events closely from china and encouraging people like me to convert my pledge.
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Originally Posted by lord bunberry
:yw:
The wording of the Yam complaint is exactly the same as the Pars (for which they got no fine but embargo extended until December).
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...1&newsID=11753
I think they should get the biggest fine possible and an embargo, they have done much worse than the pars. I hope those in charge also take in tae account the yams use of a loophole tae sign Wilson while under embargo from the SPL. Nail them, throw the book at them, throw everything at them.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Cannae say I'm tearing my bawhair out over this.
It would be wrong of me to harbour some kind of faux outrage over the departed admin staff either as I want the whole crass institution shut down entirely so they're all oot on their erse.
So they've signed Danny Wilson....wowzers. I won't lose sleep over them retaining someone who helped them finish tenth. As for the morality of it all, they wouldn't recognise a moral if it turned up at their door with a piggy bank and a puss covered in paint.
All their positivity will have all but evaporated within the first few weeks of the season when they get tonked by all and sundry.
Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
People love a bit of outrage though and the fact that its Hearts just makes things worse.
I'm disgusted by the fact he was ever involved with Hibernian Football Club. We have that arse piece Calderwood to thank for that one.
The surplus would go to the new owners.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Falcon
In this "deal", how is the issue of the frozen UBIG shares dealt with? They could be frozen for a long time.
If the SFA do issue a fine, surely that could be deducted from any prize money the Yams manage to earn between now and liquidation?
You're a bad man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eyrie
And the fact that, despite their threadbare squad and this loophole being the only way to add players, they didn't even attempt to keep NoGood tells you just how good a player he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Falcon
If I remember correctly the SPL left the door open for a review of the UBIG insolvency, the Yams were "let off" the 18 point deduction because they gave an assurance that they were solvent...... I wonder if that might come back to bite them on the bum
One can only hope! :D
I believe the time has come for Hearts to issue a plea to their loyal supporters, asking them to dig deep to pay this likely SFA fine. :faf:
yes, received :lolyam:Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
Surely FOH can ask fans to donate share certificates towards any potential fine. With the SFA then owning part of Hearts, they'd simply be fining themselves. #allisbarry
Alternatively, suspend the ****ers for 12 months and let them wallow in liquidation.... :cb
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbell1875
A fat, sleekit, jakey Hearts loving bawbag and should have never been associated with Hibernian.
Not only that but he's an uninspiring miserable old fud with bugger all to bring to any football team and couldn't spot a player if one slapped him on his baldy heid.
I'm glad he's not getting paid. He doesn't deserve to get paid for anything football related again in his life.
Don't think we'll see him snap again now that he's going to a team of senior pro's who won't be under any pressure at all, and a support renowned for their spirit of forgivness and can-do attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salt & Sauzee
That's the problem with this site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wotherspiniesta
Too many folk sitting on the fence and not saying what they really feel.
Desperate Dan is the worst for itQuote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
So forgiving that they wanted Craig Thomson back playing for them despite being a dirty paedo *******. Mind you I guess they have to be kind to their own ilk, a paedo pact if you will. Hope they all ****ing crack along with the senile old **** that is Billy Brown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellow Hibee
That's beyond banter. A horrible post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salt & Sauzee
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
Dear Supporter,
I might not be in Scotland right now, but from here in China I’ve been watching very closely and I’m full of admiration for all the supporters who have rallied round to help the club in these very difficult times.
There is now less than two weeks until bids must be submitted to the administrator to secure the future of Hearts.
As you know, I’m backing the Foundation of Hearts. There are good people with an excellent plan to ensure that the club we all love can go on and be strong again.
For that reason I’m asking you today to “convert your pledge”.
That means visiting www.foundationofhearts.org and giving us your bank details to set up a direct debit. It’s 100% safe and secure.
Doing so means you’re playing your part to help Hearts secure the sort of future we can be proud. We’ve all played a part in the club’s history but we can play an even bigger part in the future.
HHGH
Ryan McGowan:yw:
Whoever is doing the brokeback meltdown on Twitter.:thumbsup:
Here is some ammo.
http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index....brown-to-hibs/
By wishing that the Yams and their counterparts all crack? Not like I wished them all a long painful death. I've seen worse posted and nobody bats an eyelid.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
That's a belter :faf: :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
a bunch of clowns :jamboclow without a clue :idiot: would be a better description IMO
How can they sign him when they can't sign any players :confused::dunno:
When? And by whom? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Salt & Sauzee
Hearts in Admin, Lockey still there and now with BB forming the 'dream team', Dylan McGowan expressing his desire to stay, a defence of McGowan, Danny Slipup, Jamie 'Tubs' Hamill and McHattie next season, 'The Nose' nowhere to be seen near Tynie despite no doubt wanting to sign, bake sales and face painting, not reaching season ticket targets, and a stadium held together by copydex and pipe cleaners..........does life get any better :greengrin
It has to be a substantial fine and a transfer Embargo of same length of time that huns got
:not worth:rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
It's about 5 pages back. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Swedish hibee
Well yes, actually. The big L.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
That's his personal secretary and she's my cousin.Quote:
Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg
Won't happen - different crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by sidneyhibbie
Where's Ryan's follow up e-mail apologising to Hearts fans for keeping Dylan on their books :greengrin
Somehow, by claiming this, I reckon this bunch of cockwombles will cockwomble it up - and inadvertently publish all the facepainters bank details on the net at some point.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
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Originally Posted by ronaldo7
I liked this bit. "I might not be in Scotland right now, but from here in China"
Staight out of the Billy Broon(I've been places ye ken) Travel the Universe Broons Encyclopedia. Or the BB TUBE for short.
A few people, you're not that special :greengrin although yours are definitely the bestQuote:
Originally Posted by Desperate Dan
Lad at work checked his online MBNA account as we were leaving and thinks his credit card has been reimbursed what he thought he'd paid for a ST last week... Can that happen?
Yes, Mercer could rise from the grave and watch as his dream of a one team city becomes realised before dropping dead again.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Hope you've had lots of apologies in your inbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkintHibby
For those yams unlucky enough not to be able to afford even the official HOMFC garden gnome, Ladies and Gentlemen I give you the limited edition Yam -15 de-icer, specially launched just in time for summer, official SOH endorsed merchandise, cash only available on a street corner near you.
I'm fairly sure it's the MP for Airdrie and Shotts, Pamela Nash, but it's possible that she's your cousin and just didn't tell you that she had been elected to parliament.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkintHibby
Yes. There was a suggestion that Hearts were attempting to process purchases by card on the first day (Friday 21st) after BDO made their appeal for new funding from fans. Midway through that day Hearts put up a notice on their website that they could only accept purchases by cash or cheque, presumably because the card companies withdrew their facilities. Your colleague must have been one of the folk who attempted to purchase by card and has now had his transaction cancelled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Alf R
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23133006
confirmed what we all know about Billy Brown
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
https://audioboo.fm/boos/705655-gues...yni-conference
:confused: where does it say he is a greetin faced opportunist who is finally at a club suited to his station in life and being paid a wage commensurate with his limited talents? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by sparkiedelpaco7
Sadly, the idea that Tynie will be sold to a developer (especially a house builder), is a red herring. What house builders do you know that would want the social stigma attached to knocking down the ground and building flats? They will be seen as contemptible by half the city and the publicity would be very negative.Quote:
Originally Posted by sidneyhibbie
Anyway, Gorgie infrastructure is inadequate. It's a congestion disaster without putting a few thousand additional folk into it permanently.
Never going to happen in my view. Sorry.
And once the admins fees are deducted from the sale price whats left goes to the creditors? Are those that have securities dealt with separately? Two questions I know. Apologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I would guess that as talks, according to Gordon McKie, have been ongoing since February that the subject of shareholdings has been discussed and potential pitfalls overcome as they are still in the mix, and UBIG's could have been a problem. Just a guess though but we shall see what transpires.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I'm sure house companies are used to buying 'sensitive sites', is it not quite common for them to buy the land and then not build until things calm down or prices improve?Quote:
Originally Posted by judas
Also don't think it'd be a problem for say student accommodation or offices.
Taking your questions first. The buyer's offer will include 3 main elements. The first is £x for the secured creditor(s). The second is £y for the CVA. The third is BDO's fees. The first two are, of course, dependent on the attitude of the sellers. If it all goes through, and there's cash left over, the buyer takes that.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Falcon
The talks that you mention have, AFAIK, been with UBIG and UKIO's reps. The shares are frozen by the Lith government. It's they who have the power to unfreeze them. I've no idea what their attitude is, but would have thought that, while UBIG remains such a intractable mess, their assets will be frozen for some time.
He will be hoofing the ball or picking it out of the net, for very little money. Strange move.
:top marksQuote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
It's not stopped david murray before
...other charlatans are available..
Well Cala homes were about to do it in 2005 when Romanov stepped in!Quote:
Originally Posted by judas
:top marksQuote:
Originally Posted by Wotherspiniesta
Total ***** embarrassment that he was ever at Hibs.
Do you imagine that property developers are sensitive, dainty souls? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by judas
:agree: Wally Mercer was a property speculator who was about to do it to us before the fans stepped in.Quote:
Originally Posted by desantos0773
Probably bought the yams in the first place to get his hands on the land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
But then got attached to the club and gave it second thoughts.
Could cut a deal with Heriot Watt ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
The real world not yam planet all this crap about offers being submitted:greengrin bottom line is all they have is that plumber bloke :na na: all the rest are pie man in the sky the walls are moving in ****bos you can laugh at me on brokeback all you want all i ask is show me your shares certificate:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Wow - the article manages to avoid mentioning the cup final !!! Remarkable!Quote:
Originally Posted by sparkiedelpaco7
The comments on that story are outstanding. Thomaso has the best, this is it here:Quote:
Originally Posted by VivaPalmeiras
"Don't think the food parcels will be needed.
Season tickets sales up, £1m sponsors money paid early, £100k for Novi, Club shop sales up.
In the background, bid and CVA being worked out with the Lithuanians.
15 point penalty to face but about to be debt free - sorry to disappoint the bitter ones out there."
:faf:
I'd really like tae be around tae see the faces of plums like that when it all goes pop, what an absolute ****in' roaster. Still thinks they got the million fae wonga :faf: I dinnae think anybody should tell him they only got 75K, thinks ST ticket sales are up :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Salt & Sauzee
Club shop sales of gnomes up :faf:
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Hearts may have to find new sponsors in the near future.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...ising-ban.html
Payday lenders face advertising ban - Payday lenders could face similar advertising restrictions as cigarette companies, say regulators at Government summit.
Payday lenders charging high interest rates for short-term loans could face the same advertising restrictions as cigarette or gambling companies.
Martin Wheatley, the chief executive of the Financial Conduct Authority, said a total advertising ban was one of the option it was considering as it prepared to take on regulation of the industry from April next year.
And, IIRC, they don't own the club shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Desperate Dan