Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

***Brooster*** · 01-07-2013 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

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I think 3000 was the figure stated, but I'm certain that this was an over estimate.

Together with the Wonga advance and the other fund raising, I think they will have raised the equivalent of over 2000 season tickets sold so I'm certain they'll start the new season in the SPFL.

(I'm assuming the average income from ST's is £250. However, if BDO had a smaller average figure in mind, then the equivalent figure will be even higher.)

The income and TV money from their home games against Hibs, Celtic and Aberdeen will be enough to keep them going for a few weeks more.

After that, it all depends on how much the Lithuanians value Tynecastle and if they can find a football related buyer to match that price in time.

TV money? What TV money? Clubs dont get TV money do they.

***3pm*** · 01-07-2013 11:54 AM

No surprise.

He was in the stand at Tynecastle in the last derby. Probably weasling his way back in then.

***Hibbyradge*** · 01-07-2013 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Brooster

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TV money? What TV money? Clubs dont get TV money do they.

I thought the home club received money when they were live on TV.

Every chance I'm getting mixed up.

**Onion** · 01-07-2013 12:02 PM

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I Still think they will fail to reach the 3000 target that BDO Said was needed to keep them alive another failed effort.

With just a few days to go, they're not going to sell 3000 STs but will fudge the figures just as they do with PBS sell-outs. This is a club that just cannot stop lying... to their players, to agents, to other clubs, to outside world, to their own fans, to the press and to themselves. It is now so entrenched they've forgotten that telling the truth is actually the norm in the real world.

***Keith_M*** · 01-07-2013 12:07 PM

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I thought the home club received money when they were live on TV.

Every chance I'm getting mixed up.

Nope, shared pot* between all clubs. There's no extra fee for the home club, only a reduction in ticket sales. Hence the reason that Celtc and (The) Rangers hardly ever had any home games televised.

* Not that they've even got a pot to p......

***Keith_M*** · 01-07-2013 12:08 PM

Wasn't the last reported figure for STs in the region of 1,900?

**frazeHFC** · 01-07-2013 12:18 PM

I couldn't even tell you who their manager was. Thought it was still MgGlynn but just googled and saw it was Locke, or is it?

Shambles of a club whoever it is, please let them become extinct.

***Spike Mandela*** · 01-07-2013 12:40 PM

So which Hearts players have been made redundant. Sutton left but apparently this freed up money to sign Wilson. Zaliukas had a couple of months to go till he was out of contract is he included in the 4 players that wete being made redundant?

Have I missed an announcement from BDO or have Rangers started the new trend of football administration with no player redundancies?

***Jack*** · 01-07-2013 12:41 PM

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I thought the home club received money when they were live on TV.

Every chance I'm getting mixed up.

Cup games youre maybe thinking of and even then I think its in the takings pot and shared.

**~~Speedway~~** · 01-07-2013 01:05 PM

Are these people actors?

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...onday-2015237?

***Caversham Green*** · 01-07-2013 01:06 PM

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OK, so they've maybe found a 'loophole' in the rules to register Wilson but come on, some people are making a bit much of this. Morally Repugnant? Seriously?

They are a club in big trouble regarding the number of players they have on their books and they've worked a flanker to get one more, who's nothing more than an average player. They still have a squad who, if they survive the season, are odds-on to get relegated.

I totally get the aspect of people having been made redundant but, first and foremost, they are a football club. Without players on the pitch, there IS no business for the behind the scenes people to run. All the administrators have done is shown the priority for keeping this particular business going.

Have to agree - I think 'a bit irritating' is how I see it. Danny Wilson's got a bit of a job on his hands if they think he's the player to save them.

Something I do find repugnant though - having had a look on JKB - is that the same posters that were outraged when Rangers/Sevco were working exactly the same sort of flankers are now dancing wee jigs of joy that they've managed to sign Danny Wilson. Sheer hypocrisy.

***Caversham Green*** · 01-07-2013 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Speedway

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Are these people actors?

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...onday-2015237?

Looks like the guy with the bucket's only got five fingers on each hand so they probably are.

**--------** · 01-07-2013 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Caversham Green

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Looks like the guy with the bucket's only got five fingers on each hand so they probably are.

Probably - he doesn't have one of his hands in the bucket either.

**Geo_1875** · 01-07-2013 01:16 PM

I just don't follow how the season ended after the last league game when they were dodging relegation by delaying administration yet his season long loan ended yesterday?

***CropleyWasGod*** · 01-07-2013 01:17 PM

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I just don't follow how the season ended after the last league game when they were dodging relegation by delaying administration yet his season long loan ended yesterday?

His contract with Liverpool ended yesterday. The agreement between Liverpool and Hearts was probably concurrent with that.

**Part/Time Supporter** · 01-07-2013 01:22 PM

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I just don't follow how the season ended after the last league game when they were dodging relegation by delaying administration yet his season long loan ended yesterday?

Per SPL rules, the minimum expiry date of a loan deal is the first day of the transfer window re-opening.

eg1 if a player is signed on loan by an SPL team in the summer window, the loan has to run until January 1st at least.

eg2 if a player is signed on loan by an SPL team in January, the loan has to run until the opening day of the summer window at least. I think it was June 12th this year.

In Wilson's case he signed on loan in January, therefore the minimum date of the loan term would have been June 12th. As it happens the agreement ran until the end of his Liverpool contract (June 30th).

**SmashinGlass** · 01-07-2013 01:48 PM

The Hearts FC fan page on Facebook has suggested that Gary naysmith is training with them just now. Cue mass swathes of the puddle drinkers drooling over the potential of signing him. It has now been pointed out that they can't though. The influence of planet yam strikes again

***Baader*** · 01-07-2013 01:53 PM

Bet Wilson was delighted when he heard the deal was still on - he's just managed to halve the salary they originally negotiated and which he probably could have expected elsewhere! Clown!

Don't expect he'll be hanging around there too long...

**JeMeSouviens** · 01-07-2013 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

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So which Hearts players have been made redundant. Sutton left but apparently this freed up money to sign Wilson. Zaliukas had a couple of months to go till he was out of contract is he included in the 4 players that wete being made redundant?

Have I missed an announcement from BDO or have Rangers started the new trend of football administration with no player redundancies?

Zaliukas had a month or 2 left and Driver was still under contract on some kind of loan deal. So those 2 + Sutton plus potentially 2 youths I think?

In terms of football admin trends. The Huns, as you say, were markedly different to the norm. In most cases, the administrator cuts back the squad to the bare minimum necessary to function as a viable squad. In Hearts' case, thanks to the number of players out of contract, they were already there.

Versus this time last year, they are minus Sutton, Zaliukas, Webster, R.Mcgowan, Barr, Taouil, Novikovas, Driver, Grainger, Mullen, Prychynenko, Smith, Templeton.

But #allisbarry because they are plus the great Danny Wilson!

**DAVE1875** · 01-07-2013 01:55 PM

I'd rather still be stuck in the Liverpool reserves waiting for an offer from an other club (even a loan) than be at a club who can't pay wages. He'll probably end up working in a local chippers to make ends meet

**~~Speedway~~** · 01-07-2013 02:19 PM

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The Hearts FC fan page on Facebook has suggested that Gary naysmith is training with them just now. Cue mass swathes of the puddle drinkers drooling over the potential of signing him. It has now been pointed out that they can't though. The influence of planet yam strikes again

What if he offers to play for free without contract?

***CropleyWasGod*** · 01-07-2013 02:21 PM

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What if he offers to play for free without contract?

Isn't it a registration ban, though?

Unless it's a trialist, every player has to be registered with the SFA, IIRC.

**Andy74** · 01-07-2013 02:22 PM

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What if he offers to play for free without contract?

He'd still need registered I think which they can't do.

**Treadstone** · 01-07-2013 02:27 PM

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Looks like the guy with the bucket's only got five fingers on each hand so they probably are.

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Probably - he doesn't have one of his hands in the bucket either.

Boom Boom.

**~~Speedway~~** · 01-07-2013 02:39 PM

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He'd still need registered I think which they can't do.

So does that mean that lads who show up from junior clubs will get turned around.

**Andy74** · 01-07-2013 03:01 PM

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So does that mean that lads who show up from junior clubs will get turned around.

Almost certainly

**HIBERNIAN-0762** · 01-07-2013 03:03 PM

Just back after being away all weekend and this was the first thing I saw in the EEN, I simply do not believe this story, they are still lying through their rotten teeth, anyone in the their right frame of mind who has has 6 offers of higher wages to stay at this looney asylum is either a liar or a nutcase....

Dream on yams...