My pet Jambo in the office says it is just a strong, successful manager showing who's boss. I asked him to define successful and if not winning any games in his last seventeen? games was part of the criteria. They are a ****ing weird bunch
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My pet Jambo in the office says it is just a strong, successful manager showing who's boss. I asked him to define successful and if not winning any games in his last seventeen? games was part of the criteria. They are a ****ing weird bunch
😂😂😂 thank you!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Groathillgrump
Wait until.....
Wait until......
Posting Barnsley you tube videos!!!
He’s going to make history
Best manager the club has had
For those looking in (yams associates who are salivating over their new coach) call him Danny (the coach of the team who failed to pay the lady Haig Poppy fund and macraes battalion. This really hurts them)
He could make history alright
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First thing that jumped out at me when I started scrolling through that, was the handle of one of the postersQuote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
Ex member of the SaS
- Junior Member
What the holy ****!!!
How many screws have to be loose to choose a name like that? "Look at me Lads... I'm really, really hard"
Aye, OK pal!... Don't forget to pick up your cardigan from the cleaners
Sauce& salt a spotty hands down the trackers and spits to look hard
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Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
It's probably ex member of the Stendel appreciation Society.. :)
A naughty step for every player, brilliant. 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe6-2
You shouldn't be taking the piss out of people who sacrifice so much for the benefit of others. The Scottish Ambulance Service is a great organisation!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
You're probably right. An actual ex-member of the SAS, would know how to spell the acronym.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowbraeHibby
Scottish Ambulance Service is also a prominent member of their very own creditors list.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
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Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
Berra never won the scottish cup with hearts
He got a winners medal in 2006 as an unused subQuote:
Originally Posted by hibsfan7
Did he do a John Terry
Good point. Maybe why he is an ex member, cutbacks due to being stiffed by the jambos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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Originally Posted by Crutch
A picture from a match day or a made-up photo?
That's a photo-shopping thingy the youngsters do today isn't it? No way they really did that. Did they??Quote:
Originally Posted by Groathillgrump
Anyone who hasn’t listened to the post derby longbangers episode needs to - just to hear Brian bursting out laughing at this, and all things hearts.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
I think that was the most we've ever laughed on an episode 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
I was walking the bairn through the village cracking up, got some looks of the resident rangers fans 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
BeLIEve.... they did!!Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnMcM
Another first for them as a club!
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But he got them a big fee when he moved down southQuote:
Originally Posted by hibsfan7
He got a medal in the final against Gretna he was a unused substitute.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsfan7
So he did i did not know he was an unused sub
That's probably why they won otherwise he would've scored an og.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsfan7
He was probably in the TA (Saturdays and Sundays).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
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Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
He’s going to track you down and kill you now.
If his mammy lets him play Fortnite, that is.
What a shower of weirdos.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
Not sure how the huge German flag display sits when you remember this is the football club who singlehandedly defeated the Hun twice in world wars.
Wouldn't really work with their 10 German bombers song eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by flash
It's only a matter of time before the Hearts players emerge from an authentic WWI trench complete with barb wire.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby
Well, they already have the authentic trench.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Their pitch.
It’s comedy gold stuff. They are posting youtube Barnsley wins and this proves is certain to be a success. When was the last time a manager in place for 6 weeks has fans posting videos of his previous club? When one of two suggest we should wait until he has some hearts victories they get shouted down for negativity. Some are even talking about “the last few weeks proves he is transforming the club”. 4 defeats and a heroic draw (which is better than any other wins), zero new players and ditched some of the experienced players. If that’s transformation then they are truly screwed.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
Very odd behaviour. You'd think it was Klopp they had not a guy less successful than Paul HeckingbottomQuote:
Originally Posted by Col2
SaS = Scottish Ambulance ServiceQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
He could come in handy when the 400,000 famous fans collapse when there is a Hearts Attack...
I think it is going to be interesting to see how this all falls apart for them. In that thread on 12pointsback there is only one calling as it is, worse than it was with Levein. Given Stewarts injury for Ross County they could get a point or even 3 up there, but it won't be easy, County are good on the counter attack which will hurt them given their lack of pace in the team. I wonder how long, how many more defeats before the penny drops? I wonder, if a right royal humping off the huns will shake any of them? St J away comes next, again not easy when you're at the foot of the table and this one could widen the gap at the bottom. Will it be when Killie take all three points at the gorgie library? I am sure none of them will expect to take a point from Celtc park so they drift to the next foot of the table games against Hamilton and the Paisley saints. This is when I predict their love affair with Jerry Butcher will falter. This is when they will realise they are well and truly buggered. There will of course be some deluded Duncans stick ardently to their proclamation of love to St Endel, but as the gap at the bottom widens 12pointsback should give us all a lot of entertainment over the coming months.
This is the first coherent post ive read on kickback for a while:
I'm sure this will be unpopular, but I'll be 100% behind the whole club when I'm at games, manager, players, Board. On a discussion forum I'll discuss what is going well and what is going badly. At the moment things have not gone well for Daniel. Results have got worse. We have dropped to 12th place. We have squad disharmony going public. There has been little sign of his pressing style working and he seems disinclined to adopt any other style to get a result. The flip side is that it is still very early in his time at Hearts and he could change it around. The reality is that he will have the majority of the same squad at the end of this window as at the start, so he has to get winning performances out of the players he has not just bring in his own team. So far he has only actually got rid of one player, there are no guarantees he will be able to move Berra, Wighton or anyone else on. He absolutely has to avoid relegation. That for me is the be all and end all of the next 6 months. One regular poster wrote on another thread yesterday that they were happy to see us relegated if that allowed Stendel to implement his plans. I thought that was crazy talk, but no one picked him up on it. I'm behind the club and Stendel, but the idea that things are going really well seems to me to be a mass delusion.
I have a theory that Stendel is sabotaging Hearts from the inside in revenge for the club singlehandedly defeating Germany in the First World War.
Stendel is one picture on top of arthur seat away from going full butcher
Clearly a bitter undercover Hobo who doesn't understand the significance of the draw to end all draws. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
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Originally Posted by 660
That's a very balanced and sensible viewpoint.
I wouldn't be surprised if he got some stick for it, though.
Like paying their creditors, it'll never catch on.Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
Which is pleasing. They should absolutely carry on as they are. The Barnsley effect has transferred seamlessly to Gorgie.
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The absolute faith shown by the muppets in their Messiah (:faf:) is incredible. He has done nothing on the park yet, except for a home draw against Aberdeen, yet, to a man they are blindly backing him to the hilt on the supposed and debatable improvement he has made and in his getting rid of senior players. Until the sacking of Levein and McPhee, the likes of Berra and Whelan were the undisputed backbone of their struggling team and even after their sacking were still regarded as ever presents. Enter Strudel, the cull begins and is widely applauded by everyone and the cull victims are ripped to shreds on their KB forum by their erstwhile devotees. If the shoe was on the other foot, I would like to think that, in similar circumstances, we would welcome a new regime but err on the realistic side of caution before pledging blind faith and total confidence. I hope Strudel falls flat on his erchie.
I'm not so sure he didn't get one, if he didn't it must be because his contract had a break clause. There's no way he just was sent a contract to sign that said he was getting laid off without payment and he just signed it, particularly when you read how bitter he is. They've either paid him what he was due or there was a clause saying they could cancel it after 6 months if they wished for X amount.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe6-2
I think the latter or at very least there was a pay off offered in the email/contract he was sent which he decided to accept instead of dragging things out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ian cruise
Whelan has been quoted as saying he was happy to leave with no pay off just to get out of there. Not sure why he would make that up tbh, and I imagine it will have been a relative pittance in comparison to his personal wealth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ian cruise
I know its the Daily Record, but there's a transcript of a discussion Whelan had on TalkSport this morning:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibee87
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...mbles-21246179
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Simon Jordan: "Glenn, you must know what the motivation is? You must have an inkling? Is it because you're the highest paid player there? Because the owner doesn't like you?"
Glenn Whelan: "That's what I mean and that's why I'm talking up. I've had no contact with the owner."
SJ: "You're going to get paid, you have a year's contract with Hearts, they're going to pay you?"
GW: "No, it was a terminated contract."
SJ: "They can't just terminate a contract without a reason."
GW: "They asked me to cancel the contract."
SJ: "But you don't have to Glenn, you've got the PFA sitting on one side of the fence saying to you - under no circumstances will you be cancelling your contract, you've done nothing wrong.
"You're entitled. You've signed a contract with Hearts - they're stuck with you, you're stuck with them.
"You wouldn't be giving up your contact, surely? You haven't done anything wrong."
GW: "I've not done anything wrong but it just got to a stage where that's where they wanted to go. I wasn't in it for the money.
"I wasn't up there just to get paid, I wanted to play, keep playing at the highest level."
SJ: "Glenn, it's a point of principle. If you're going to come out and defend yourself, as you are, and you're entitled to do so.
"Surely, by the same token, if you wanted to leave and the club didn't want you to leave, you couldn't leave.
"If you said to Hearts: 'I want to leave', and Hearts said no, you wouldn't have the option to cancel your contract you'd have to bleeding well get on with it.
"I'm curious to see why. If this behaviour meted out to you, and I'm not suggesting it's right or wrong I'm just reacting to the circumstances and saying if we put the money to one side, there's a point of principle.
"And I know when you die your principles die with you, but you're a professional footballer and you full well know the value of a contract. And your representatives and the PFA know the value of a contract.
"You can't have football clubs running around cancelling contracts when they feel like it."
GW: "What I'm saying, after the game on Boxing Day I wasn't in the squad, then I wasn't in the squad against Aberdeen , and-
SJ: "That's fine Glenn but you get paid. If they want you to go then their obligation is to pay you, whether that's right or wrong it cuts both ways.
"As a former owner, I had a Scottish player, Jamie Fullarton, and I didn't like him, neither did the manager.
"I got rid of him, but I had to pay him.
"What I'm trying to understand is how this is manifested itself. Hearts' run of form is pretty dreadful right now so the whole place is probably not in the greatest of order, but that doesn't mean one particular player should be meted.
"I'm trying to understand why Glenn, an experienced player, would take this and take a contract that is clearly his right and turn round and say: 'I'm just going to walk away I'm being treated abominably.'"
GW: "That's what I'm saying, it wasn't a case of digging my heels in and wanting the contract paid up. If I wasn't there to play or train then why be there?
"It was a case of I'll go one way, you go the other, we'll shake hands and that's it. But it wasn't that.
"I got an email from the secretary of the club basically saying would I sign the contract for termination to become a free agent.
"That's what I did, I wasn't there for money. I was there to play and try and prove things."
Suggests he was glad just to get out. Don't know why the interviewer keeps on at him about the money, the guy has basically said he doesn't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Simon Jordan, ex Chairman / owner Crystal Palace FC. Colourful character. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_JordanQuote:
Originally Posted by Cataplana
Simon Jordan is a money man so I suspect he won’t be able to see past that side of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataplana
Glenn Whelan probably just didn’t want to go through the process of training with reserves and staying away from home when he could leave and probably find another club.
I cant imagine this will be helping Hearts bring players in going forward. The way that club is run is absolutely without any scruples or standards. If I was an agent I wouldn't let a player go there for any money...it isn't worth the complications.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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Footballers generally don’t care as long as they get paid. No morals. Look at the manager - he was still taking a wage from Barnsley when he took the Hearts job.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Captain....
Has there been any update on that court case?
According to most on Kickback this boy is normally ITK and this is wjat he has recently posted
Notts1874 Notts1874
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There is a meeting going on now between Stendel and Murray. Most of Stendel's first choices seemed to have said no for one reason or another.
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Who's Murray?Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Duncan? 😀😀😀Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
Chief Scout John Murray i assume?Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
If he really did walk away from the contract it's a big help to Hearts bearing in mind how skint they are. They should be thanking him for doing so, not brushing him off with an email. His treatment by Stendel seems extremely shabby and he's right to call the club out as 'amateurish'. He certainly walks away looking like the more professional party here.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
I would end myself laughing if Ian Murray's Airdrie knocked them out the cup, and I think they will.
Stendel invites more senior players into new office for talks.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...b/Trapdoor.jpg
Not surprised at that. They are on a bad run of form, are 5 points adrift at the bottom and have a difficult run of matches coming up which could see them further adrift. There's a good chance they'll be relegated so it isn't exactly appealing to any potential signings. Who wants a relegation on their CV? Add in the Berra and Whelan news stories which aren't exactly painting Hearts in a positive light.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Can't imagine many players of the standard they need/are after that have a club at the moment, would want to leave where they are to join the HMFC (Hearts Massive F***ing Cluster***k). You'd have to be desperate to go there. :faf:
Uche, MacLean and Wighton were called in but they all missed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Trips
Me too, looked for bookies giving odds last night but it's too soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Uche couldnt fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
There has been more criticism of Jack Ross on here than Herr Stendal on keichback. They are a strange lot indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Punted their captain, highest profile player Whelan, their best winger Mulraney, and MacLean who he's played almost every week and his targets have said thanks but no thanks? Very pleasing if trueQuote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
One reason or another...Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
The reasons are he is a dick or a fannyQuote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
A good chance they'll be relegated? I must have misunderstood, I though one point every five games was going to see them OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Hearts finally find somebody who will join:Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
https://s3.amazonaws.com/thisismyjam...jpg?1369893313
12 days until they play Ross County in what is their biggest game in years and no sign of any new signings and 6 players told they are no longer wanted. Stendel appears to be doing a fantastic job.
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Stendel has probably gone back to Germany for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Would like them to get through that without a money spinning replay, so they assume all is Barry and spend less on the squad and opt to avoid getting players in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
You forgot to mention that they are also in a substantially worse position than when he arrived.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
this could very well be their very own Terry Butcher story.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
Wonder if the 6 players will get a second chance if they sign no one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Do Berra, Wigton, Mulraney, Uche, MacLean and the other now just sit it out until they find new clubs, sit it out or doesDanny boy still play them if they are short on numbers.
Excellent job imho!
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Fixed that for you...... (stolen from another poster yesterday) :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Captain Trips
We're now on page 7-0 of this comedy.
The players took a break today to visit a local orphanage.
“It was absolutely heartbreaking to see the look of despair and hopelessness in their eyes” said Sally, aged six.
Have I missed the Uche binned news?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
They're gonna need a bigger bin.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
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I just have an image of his legs sticking oot a wheelie bin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Then in the afternoon they visited a hospice etc and so on.
😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Nade Super Size in fact........Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Some of the inmates at Saughton Prison were given a tour of Tynecastle yesterday on the prisons annual "things could be worse" tour.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/footb...isis-1-5072902
Levien still very much involved.
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I thought I read he was told he can go and wasn’t in his plans??Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
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I'm probably a peg selling hobo here, but do excerpts of that not read like, between the lines, she thinks that some member of the physio or sports science department at Hearts is, or has been, feeding her a crock of ***** and might not, in her opinion, have been doing their job to 100%?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
For an IT person she always seems rather focussed on getting a single person to tell her what is happening for specific areas. This appears to inevitably involve more cost and complexity, as well of course a reliance on that person knowing what they are talking about!Quote:
Originally Posted by lyonhibs
It’s like she has never heard of system and process refinement to make sure you get good outcomes. To me it sounds like they have plenty of medical staff but simply don’t have them structured correctly.
Anyhoo yet again she comes across as well meaning but absolutely clueless.
St endel looking to sign 5 players this window including 2 currently playing at Barnsley. From bbc gossip
Barnsley duo Mamadou Thiam and Jordan Green have been targeted by Hearts as Daniel Stendel looks to make his first signings at Tynecastle. (Daily Record)
Hearts are targeting five new arrivals before the end of the month as manager Daniel Stendel strives to reinforce his squad. (Edinburgh Evening News)
Given the 6 he’s ‘released’ it’ll be interesting to see how many he will get in. Can’t imagine two players with contracts in the championship will come cheap or will come up here at all.
If it's two that Barnsley's new manager dropped when he joined after Stendel led them to 11 without a win I'm all for itQuote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
19 yr old striker from Wolfsburg as well according to the herald also still under contractQuote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
All of which will cost cash up front. They may well save money on wages (but this isn’t guaranteed if players don’t move on) but they’ll need a good cash injection to get these players in. Also being rooted to the bottom of the Scottish Premiership cannae be an attractive option for a Championship or Bundeslega (sp) playerQuote:
Originally Posted by Dmas
Players are injured by coaches or in games not by laying on a bed in the physio room. Budge really is clueless. Levein was the reason for the injury issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
If Barnsley are still in dispute with hertz I can't see them loaning any players. Even if it's not an official dispute he certainly left them under a cloud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
"2018-19 was another successful year and we got off to a fantastic start"Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Craig Levein is helping her find tge right people in each department who will tell her the truth.
They are making the Trump regime look almost sane. This comedy show is running and running.
I genuinely feel Hearts should concentrate on rebuilding in the Championship next season. Would give them a chance to revamp the squad with far less competition involved and win most weeks under Stendels new style. They'd probably come back stronger. He has a promotion on his record already so maybe the Hearts board had one eye on that
The two Barnsley lads haven’t played any football in months and would take a good while to get up to the speed of Scottish football. Hearts don’t have time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Similar could be said of this 19 year old German prospect, he might be a good talent but Scottish football has swallowed up and spat out many a lightweight talented youngster that isn’t prepared for this kind of game. I’d also guess he’s not played much first team football recently.
Jerry Butcher seems to be trying to make the wholesales changes that should be made in the summer, not in January.
To be fair their form improved no end since he left so since Hearts took him off their hands and gave him somewhere else to continue his long winless run maybe Barnsley should at least offer to form one of those weird yam special relationship things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
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According to someone at Hearts (I know!) his first 3 requests were knocked back by the players instantly.