The generic Hearts thread

[Gmack7]

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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...eurish-1358213

Glenn Whelan having a right pop at Hearts and Stendel here.

Brilliant.

A good insight to how things are done down tiny way

[Bostonhibby]

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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...eurish-1358213

Glenn Whelan having a right pop at Hearts and Stendel here.

Brilliant.

Just shoddy, it's only a few months ago Mrs doctor Budge ordered Banderson to run an article saying Whelan had turned down big money offers to play for the famous.

Stendels handling of the guy is a sign of a poor leadership style in my view, especially when you look at what Berra is saying.

Can't be good for existing morale.

Nearly said it creates a bad impression of the club itself then I remembered the megastand, the pitch, the money, their league position, the plaza, the glass curtain, the castle "view", the al fresco press boxes and the administration event.

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[bingo70]

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Sounds like Stendel doesn't have the balls to have awkward face-to-face talks with players (Berra & Whelan). Is he going to hide in his office as the going gets tougher?

Will probably just go on holiday again.

Do situations like these ever end well for the club involved? If the guy is a dick the guy is a dick, you don’t just turn these things on and off because you don’t like a certain player. Imo the players will soon see through people like that, if they haven’t already.

I went on about it after we beat them but giving the players the day off before the Derby was mental and it won’t have gone down well with the players, especially the experienced ones, they’ll have known fine well they should have been in that day. The fact they then lost the derby ruined any credibility the guy had IMO.

[The Captain....]

The willful, logic defying support of a manager who is presiding over a shambolic first half a dozen weeks in charge would be mystifying if it wasnt our fore lock tugging neighbours involved.

This is a man who has failed to even fluke a win in 16 games of football..an absolutely remarkable stat. Yet he saw fit to take a holiday before a home derby match while leaving selection decisions to be communicated in a what's app chat like some Sunday league amateurs.

I bet there is a few twitchy erseholes in that Hearts boardroom..they must dread the next cluster**** being aired in the national press and wider afield. The rumours about the senior pros downing tools after Berra's treatment will be difficult to judge as they couldn't play obviously more poorly..they've been that **** all season.

The whole structure at that club seems rotten tho..the managerial problems are just another pleasing symptom.

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[we are hibs]

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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...eurish-1358213

Glenn Whelan having a right pop at Hearts and Stendel here.

Brilliant.

There are other players still at the club seriously unhappy at the way both berra and whelan have been treated. This isnt something that will be fixed with new signings.

[bingo70]

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There are other players still at the club seriously unhappy at the way both berra and whelan have been treated. This isnt something that will be fixed with new signings.

Certainly not in January which isn’t a time for wholesale changes.

Thing is, if he was making a stand against bad eggs who were a disruptive influence on the changing room then he’d probably get respect for it, sounds to me like he’s done it to the wrong people though, in terms of morale in the changing room anyway.

[Since452]

I think Whelan would be good in a better team. He was up against it playing with huddys like Clare and Bozanic

[Peevemor]

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I think Whelan would be good in a better team. He was up against it playing with huddys like Clare and Bozanic

I've just started a thread on this - I'm only half joking.

[banchoryhibs]

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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...eurish-1358213

Glenn Whelan having a right pop at Hearts and Stendel here.

Brilliant.

A mate who is apparently in the know over there says that "Strudel" has very little English and has motivational skills compared to Stalin. I just wonder if he's doing a spectacular Terry Butcher job.

When Butcher arrived to us he had a reasonable points cushion and still managed to relegate us. They don't have that luxury.

[GreenCastle]

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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...eurish-1358213

Glenn Whelan having a right pop at Hearts and Stendel here.

Brilliant.

Hahaha..

What a club. Even when they aren’t playing games they can’t seem to help themselves.

Shambles FC delivers again.

The guy who never speaks to the media - speaks to the media and explains what a shambles Hearts are.

Next few months are going to be hilarious with the fall out and ideally relegation being icing on the cake.

[bingo70]

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A mate who is apparently in the know over there says that "Strudel" has very little English and has motivational skills compared to Stalin. I just wonder if he's doing a spectacular Terry Butcher job.

When Butcher arrived to us he had a reasonable points cushion and still managed to relegate us. They don't have that luxury.

I really think it’ll come down to the Ross County game, lose that and they’re ****ed.

One of the many problems they have is that they seem to think getting rid of Berra and Whelan is a solution, it’s really not, replacing them is the solution. Signing good players in January really isn’t that easy and its even more difficult to find leaders in the changing room on 6 month loan deals.

[Onceinawhile]

Looks like muleaney and whighton also training with the reserves.

Unreal they actually spent cash on those two!!

[Oscar T Grouch]

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A mate who is apparently in the know over there says that "Strudel" has very little English and has motivational skills compared to Stalin. I just wonder if he's doing a spectacular Terry Butcher job.

When Butcher arrived to us he had a reasonable points cushion and still managed to relegate us. They don't have that luxury.

To be fair to Stalin, "do what I say or I will kill you" is pretty motivating Not sure it will work at a modern 'big' football club though

[jacomo]

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To be fair to Stalin, "do what I say or I will kill you" is pretty motivating Not sure it will work at a modern 'big' football club though

And whatever else you say about him, Stalin was pretty famous.

Hearts must be delighted at all this coverage they are getting. Hopefully the Japanese media will pick up these stories for one of their key markets.

[Since452]

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And whatever else you say about him, Stalin was pretty famous.

Hearts must be delighted at all this coverage they are getting. Hopefully the Japanese media will pick up these stories for one of their key markets.

Not so sure. With the Iran saga and the Australian fire disaster the big team are only 3rd in the world news

[Treadstone]

Banderson better watch himself or Whelan will not consent to his double page interview pieces of yams that contributed little and left ages ago.

[tamig]

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Looks like muleaney and whighton also training with the reserves.

Unreal they actually spent cash on those two!!

Wighton was a strange signing but Mulraney has looked pretty good in some of the fleeting glimpses I’ve had of him on the telly.

[007]

Before the Berra and Whelan interviews I thought Stendel would get them out of trouble. Now I don't, bet duly placed.

[Biggie]

Can I Just say this is superb reading.....

[Cataplana]

"We didnt want the tunnel in the centre of the pitch, it's off centre so the home dugout is centred, giving our management team the best possible view. "

Innovative as usual.

[Springbank]

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"We didnt want the tunnel in the centre of the pitch, it's off centre so the home dugout is centred, giving our management team the best possible view. "

Innovative as usual.

The great thing about having a perfect view of your relegation-threatened team is that it takes away the fear of having a slightly-off-centre view of your honking relegation-threatened team...

[Cataplana]

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The great thing about having a perfect view of your relegation-threatened team is that it takes away the fear of having a slightly-off-centre view of your honking relegation-threatened team...

One day, all clubs will place their dug out on the centre line. Lots of people have said it's the way ahead, and the best way to do things.

[660]

Hearts are utterly tinpot and have been for decades.

[matty_f]

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"We didnt want the tunnel in the centre of the pitch, it's off centre so the home dugout is centred, giving our management team the best possible view. "

Innovative as usual.

"in a bid to improve supporter fitness, we built a set of stairs that led to a brick wall. Any supporter making the initial climb to the top of the stairs will be forced to climb back down the stairs, thus doubling the exercise required. You can thank us later."

[MikeyS]

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There are other players still at the club seriously unhappy at the way both berra and whelan have been treated. This isnt something that will be fixed with new signings.

Jerry Butcher is in full swing over there. Pleasing!

[JeMeSouviens]

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Wighton was a strange signing but Mulraney has looked pretty good in some of the fleeting glimpses I’ve had of him on the telly.

He has, but he's getting worse/less interested every time I see him. He was pish in the derby.

[bigwheel]

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A mate who is apparently in the know over there says that "Strudel" has very little English and has motivational skills compared to Stalin. I just wonder if he's doing a spectacular Terry Butcher job.

When Butcher arrived to us he had a reasonable points cushion and still managed to relegate us. They don't have that luxury.

His interviews show his English is fine...not perfect. But more than adequate

[Smartie]

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Jerry Butcher is in full swing over there. Pleasing!

That’s a quite magnificent nickname you’ve come up with there.

[MikeyS]

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That’s a quite magnificent nickname you’ve come up with there.

Not mines unfortunately mate, saw it on Twitter and it was too good not to use again. Really hope it sticks!

[Kaff]

Aidan Fitzmaurice

January 7 2020 23:30 PM





Way up in Edinburgh, 200 miles from his Manchester base, there is an apartment full of his things which Glenn Whelan needs to clear out.

The eight-hour round trip is the least of his worries right now as Whelan, probably Ireland’s best player in 2019, is a man without a club.

He doesn’t need a bed in the Scottish capital any more as his recent employers, Hearts, have decided they don’t need Whelan.

The divorce came through yesterday, a 35-word statement from the SPL club confirming that Whelan had left “by mutual agreement”, the player asking to be relieved of his contractual duties.

Devoting to him a mere two words for every game he played for the club says more than the last line of that statement: “The club wishes Glenn well in the future”.

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Hearts manager Daniel Stendel
Whelan had high hopes for himself, and the club, when he joined Hearts in the summer from Aston Villa.

Offers from sunnier spots in the far east were rejected as Mick McCarthy had told Whelan he needed to be playing at a high level to stay in the Irish squad. Bali could wait.

But halfway through his one-year deal, his time is up, and Whelan is sore about how it all happened, his demise coming with the arrival last month of new manager Daniel Stendel.

"I do feel let down. The way my name is out there now it feels like I have been thrown under a bus," he told Independent.ie.

"There are a lot of players at Hearts who have not been fit, I have tried my best with the quality that is around us and if that wasn’t good enough, it was certainly not my fault."



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Craig Levein, who signed Whelan in the summer, was sacked in October after a poor run left Hearts deep in relegation trouble.

A six-game run under a caretaker offered no relief and in mid-December Hearts brought in German coach Stendel.

And from the off, there was trouble for Whelan.

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Glenn Whelan injured his hamstring while playing for Hearts in a Scottish League Cup semi-final. Photo: Stephen McCarthy/Sportsfile
"When the new manager came in, the first person he spoke to was me. He was already having a bit of a go," he says.

"My reaction was, you have just walked in the door, you’ve not seen anything.

"In training, I think he did things to show the other players, especially the younger players, that he was the boss, he was nit-picking with things I was doing in training."

Whelan did start in the new manager’s first game, at home to St Johnstone.

"We conceded a late set-piece and lost the game 1-0, but I think I did OK. And then he dropped me for the next game, Celtic at home," he recalls.

"I wasn’t going around the place grumpy or banging down his door. I kept my head down and trained hard, I did all that was asked of me, I was professional.

"If you ask any Hearts fan who had seen our games, I’d like to think they’d say I was willing, trying.

"I played eight home games and got five man-of-the match awards.

"Results weren’t great and form had dipped, some of the lads their heads dropped, but I don’t think I played badly.

"We played Celtic at home, we were 2-0 down at half-time when he brought me on. After the game he had a pop at me. We were 2-0 down when I came on and we lost 2-0, how can that be my fault?" Whelan asked his boss.

Within days, Stendel had a pop at Whelan in the media. He said the experienced players such as Whelan "cannot handle the situation at the moment."

Asked if Whelan had leadership qualities, he said: "A real leader in the centre of the pitch? Sorry. Maybe I missed it." Ouch.

On Christmas Day, eve of their derby with Hibs, Whelan was hit with a real blow.

"At 9.10pm on Christmas night there was a message in the players' group chat, that they only wanted 18 players in the squad for the next day. And I wasn't in it, that was the first I knew," he says.

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Aston Villa's Conor Hourihane, Henri Lansbury and Glenn Whelan celebrate after winning yesterday's Championship play-off final at Wembley. Photo: Reuters/Ed Sykes
"So they played Hibs on St Stephen’s Day and I wasn't involved. I had the kids up there with me, I was more than happy to go and be part of the game.

"Things were being said about me, that I didn’t fancy it, I was laying down the tools. No way was that the case on my part.

"I don’t think he was watching the games if the manager felt like that.

"My form was good for the last few months but the manager came in and wanted to show his power, show the other players that he’s the boss, he’s the main man."

Worse was to come on the day after the derby.

"I went in to train on the 27th, there were two groups: a recovery group of the lads who had played and another group of players who hadn’t played and those not in the squad. I wasn't in either group. My name wasn't even on the sheet," he says.

"I went to the manager to try and have a word.

"He was watching videos of the Hibs game and said he didn’t have time to speak to me.

"I went to the gym, did a bit of work on my own, got showered and went back to my apartment. That was the last of it for me at Hearts."

His treatment by the manager hurt.

"I can’t accept him coming out and questioning my leadership skills or saying I didn’t do the job, I did the job he asked," he says.

But, whatever about being dropped, Whelan feels let down by how the club treated an employee in the days after.

"They call themselves a professional football club, but I never heard anything from anyone at Hearts," he says.

"On Monday night, I got an email from someone at the club with the contract details, asking me to sign so we could go our separate ways.

"I didn’t ask for any money, I was happy to just go. But it was all very amateurish from their side.

"When I left Villa, they went on to the Premier League and I class that as a success, I’d class my time at Stoke as a success.

"New managers can come in with new ideas, that’s football, but to be let down the way I was and be treated the way I was, with no one at Hearts having the decency to speak to me or give me a call: that’s disappointing."


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Full interview from Irish Independent (I think)