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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I love the thought of BDO just smashing their way in, unannounced. A bit like the Spanish Inquisition or Elliot Ness. :greengrin
14 club SPL proposed with THREE promotion slots for the 1st Division. Funny that...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18795597
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Originally Posted by offshorehibby
Backs are now against the wall big time. Also while I think 16 would be great...whos to say that its not 16...playing twice (30 games) and then double round of games in an 8/8 split = 44 games (and giving the possibility of 4 OF games)
Devil is always in the detail
Division 1 is not where Sevco F C should start life, I think we all agree on that , but there may be one or two pieces of baggage the New Huns will have to accept.Quote:
Originally Posted by John_the_angus_hibby
The transfer ban and settling football creditor debts would certainly be a burden but the best part would be they would be stuck with Green.
The New Club will never get fully supported by the bulk of the Hun followers, I see the Share sales being a total flop and season ticket purchase look-warm at best.There will be disgruntled factions sniping from the sidelines because Green and Co are not Rangers Men and anything and everything that is done will be questioned as if its a pocket-lining con by the owners. No doubt the succulent lamb brigade ( if they are still in employment ) will give headlines to every grievance and this will lead to boycotts and protests which will weaken Hun F C for the next few years.
Division 1 might also get the enlarged Premier League we want , but why , if its what the game needs is it only being used as a bargaining chip with the SFL Clubs to benefit the Govan Dodgers ?
Division 3 might see Green bail out allowing " real Rangers Men " in. I would worry if McColl, Park and a few others with some real money behind them got control and united the hoardes. The Club would return to nearer their previous domination of Scottish Football in a much shorter time span.
Knowing Doncaster and his buddies everything will be geared to 4 OF televised games sooner rather than later.Quote:
Originally Posted by down-the-slope
And who is supposed to cough up more money to watch 22 home games never mind away ones? Yup, that's right, you and me not the *******s who sit on their fat ***** watching the games on TV :grr:Quote:
Originally Posted by down-the-slope
Do the right thing SFL clubs and get Sevco to apply for Div 3 :agree:
More pressure from the SPL to get SFL clubs to vote Rangers into Division 1!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
Following the SPL vote the resounding statement was "it's out of our hands and up the the SFL now" ... but since then they have done everything in their power to scare, threaten .. and now entice .. the SFL clubs to place Rangers into Division 1!!
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There is no way of fitting 44 League games in. There are not enough slots for 22 rounds of fixtures taking account of European midweek fixtures, SFA Cup and International breaks.Quote:
Originally Posted by down-the-slope
EUFA are pressing the 20-team Leagues - Spain, Italy, France, England - to reduce to 18-teams.
The BBC are reporting that a 14-team SPL1 is proposed. That would presumably work with a split after 26 matches, and a second round for the top 7 and bottom t with a further 12 matches. That gives the current 38 matches.
Yep, and also the top 30% of the league being promoted means that Rangers would have to be unbelievably poor in order to not be promoted from the 1st. Any other year they would've had no relegation and promoted 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
14 would have top 6 and bottom 8, giving 36 or 40 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
I would take that article with at least a ton of salt - the Daily Mail isn't the most dependable source on what's going on in Scottish football at the best of times.
(I wondered when George Peat would slink back up to the surface of the swamp. Still his slimy old self, I see.)
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:agree: A lot in what you say here - I'm beginning to think that all things considered, Rangers Newco led by Charles Green in Div One might be the least worst of a lot of thoroughly unpalatable scenarios.
Does anyone actually know if the television deal relies on Rangers being in the league? They're presenting it as a matter of fact that the TV deal will collapse if Rangers aren't in division 1. Well that's how I see it anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by DailyFail
Besides, I would hardly describe 80m or whatever it is over 5 years 'lucrative' in the current climate.
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Originally Posted by StevieC
Not a single quote in that article :rolleyes: fantasy....off the record briefing...waving some bait to see if a bite...take your pick
Also should SPL have to ask its members in the next couple of weeks to vote on a change to league.....Rangers FC (IA) would be able to vote on this
SFA & SFL need to watch how they play this embargo deal to let them in div 1, if green saying he'll take the ban if they get into div 1 but remember there is a loophole in SPL rules that states that "clubs who cannot sign players are still able to bring in free agents, as long as they are replacing departing players" I make that 10 players depends if SFL rules say the same? they could have their embargo in div 1 and still sign player of any age not just under18'sQuote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Div 3 for me..........at any cost!!
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Two days ago they reported that Roberto Manchini had signed a contract to become the manager of Russia. The next day he signed a five year contract with Manchester City.
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Originally Posted by jgl07
As you say.
I'm surprised that the "Newco exclusive" didn't finish up with an analysis of the effects of the Rangers scandal on property values in Bearsden or Newton Mearns.
And they didn't mention Polish plumbers once .... :confused:
Got the invoices printed, just getting the kids to lick the envelopes .. school holidays have their uses. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by down-the-slope
Almost every newspaper article has been fantasy, but someone is feeding them with these stories and the fact that no SFA/SPL representatives ever come out to deny them kinda leaves you guessing where the info originated. Every step of the way, and with each door closing on the Rangers saga, the newspapers are fed stories that are clearly trying to sway those involved towards picking the best solution for Rangers.
This whole mess could have been finished the day that the CVA was rejected, by following the rules and placing Sevco into Division 3. By dragging this out the SFA/SPL have only increased the chances of there being no Rangers in any division!
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My understanding is that it does, and if Newco are out of the League or in Div Three, everyone in Scottish football will suffer, and those who suffer worst will be the SPL clubs outwith the OF.
Erm, I mean, other than Celtc. :devil:
£1 for Goodwill
£1 for SFA Membership
£1 for SPL Share
£1 for Leasehold Interests
£1 for Stock
£5 for Subsidiary Companies Share Capital
£2,749,990 for Player Contracts & Registrations
£1,500,000 for Heritable Properties
£1,250,000 for Plant & Machinery
So is that proof coming from D&P they sold Ibrox & Murray Park for £1.5m??????
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Originally Posted by StevieC
Bit in bold - oh how I wish i could beleive that...infact I am realising that i'm missing the daily club saviour speeches...followed by the walking away...must be about Charlie time
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If the SFA or SPL make a formal denial of this sort of tripe, it just gives the journos the opportunity for another "exclusive".
IU don't know that even the lawyers fully understand what's been going on for the last six months.
And the 'leak' doesn't necessarily have to be from the SFA or SPL. The SFL's full of people who may be involved in running one of the SFL clubs, but whose first allegiance is to Rangers.
Trust me - I know. I live three miles from Airdrie's ground, and eight miles from Motherwell's. People may go to Fir Park or New Broomfield on the Saturdays, but when Sunday comes and the Huns are on Sky or ESPN, a lot of them are in front of the TV in their Rangers shirts.
You'll find the same attitudes among the guys who run the SFL teams. Or even among former office-bearers in the SFA .... :devil:
There is a HUGE amount of disinformation going on, and the press are just stoking it up to sell their grotty chip-wrappers.
Yup. If this is typical of what administrators deliver for their money then it is a very shoddy profession indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brando7
Agree with this. If the SFL chairman do not approve R2 then the SFL Board have no mandate to negotiate terms with the SPL and SFA, or to place Newco in Div 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
:agree: Apart from anything else, they valued it at £4.6m for a straight liquidation - not as current use value.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Just an idea but with all this bribery, blackmail and bull**** going on from sevco and their chums why don't the S.F.L. chairmen say "ok we will vote you into Div 1 but we want 30-40% of your annual turnover for 3 years". I mean if money is all that matters why not?
:greengrin:greengrin
Over £2 million has now been accumulated in administration fees since this fiasco broke.
No wonder its such a long drawn out process. Duff and Phelps must be laughing all the way to the bank.
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80,000,000 .................. Lucrative
0 ................................ Not Lucrative
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Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
If they think Scottish Football is in a crisis now, wait till they shoehorn the Huns into Div 1.
Armaggedon I tell you. No ..... wait .......... that word's been used already has it not?
The baw will definitely be burst.
The original deal seems to rely on Rangers being in the Premier League, or as explained below four OF games per season (maybe we should boot Celtic into Div 3 as well to preserve the league Old Firm derbies and the TV deal!
Some details of the original deal, extracted from the Daily Mail again.....
A guarantee of four Old Firm games per season is written into the new agreement, which kills off any proposal to significantly expand the top flight before 2017.Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2064512/Scottish-Premier-League-agree-new-80m-TV-deal.html
‘One of the conditions of this deal — as with all major sponsorships — is that Celtic and Rangers remain in the league. It is also a condition that they play each other four times a season. That’s been with us for the entirety of the current deal and before that with Setanta.’
Doncaster, though, insisted supporters had to accept them (no expansion to league and early kick off time ) as a price to pay for their clubs receiving the ‘lifeblood’ of television income.
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Originally Posted by BOVRIL
With the knowledge that HMRC had been breathing down their necks for some time, and refusing to budge, it makes you wonder how thick the person must be who agreed to such a clause. Not only thick but dangerous and should not be trusted even to be sent for the pies.Quote:
Originally Posted by devonjock
Article by an ex SKY producer in the Mail on Sunday who said from his experience of working for SKY for a number of years that the 80,000,000 contract will be binned if the Zombie Huns end up in div 3. His words, not mine by the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by reallapsedhibee
Was in the Daily Record originally so must be true! mmmmm I wonder......
"No Rangers equals no Sky, unless Gers are back very soon," a source at the broadcaster told the Daily Record. "It's just not going to be commercially worth it if it's going to be any longer than 12 months with no Old Firm league games."
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/s...113142799.html
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...6908-23896063/
:agree:The TV money is easy for the SFA/SPL to quantify as its specific and built into contracts. They haven't got a clue what the impact is going to be on gate receipts to the clubs. That would be too much like hard work to try quantify that. Much easier to just stick Newco into Div 1, maintain TV revenue and just hope that the fans forget all about it - they probably regard that as "acceptable collateral damage". However, if fans do walk away from the game in big numbers, they've no more cards to play. What could they possibly do to get the fans back? They couldn't exactly say, erm, sorry lads lets stick the Newco into Div 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by snooky
Nope, if they were doing their jobs, they'd stick to their rules, dump the Newco into Div3 and then WORK on getting the best outcome for the clubs and the game.
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Originally Posted by devonjock
Now there is a solution I think everyone would buy into !!!!! Sometimes the simplest ideas are the best.
Fantastic idea !!
Not sure but the CVA document lodged with the court of session listed some of these as;Quote:
Originally Posted by Brando7
£109,613,870 Freehold Property Including Ibrox Stadium and Murray Park
£ 2,931,968 Leasehold Property - Albion Road Car Park
£ 620,000 Goodwill
£ 39,495 Trademarks
£ 7,661,456 Player registrations
£ 3,907,345 Fixtures and fittings
Spot the difference. Justify the difference.
Or an arrogant bully who got off with flaunting the rules for so long, they thought they didn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser1962
Wasn't aksing for the source of the 80m figure - was aksing for the source of the 0 figure!Quote:
Originally Posted by BOVRIL
There will be another TV deal, even if Sevco are in Division Three where they belong. It just won't be as lucrative as the proposed £80m/5 year Sky deal.
On the other hand, changing the distribution of the TV money means that Sellick will take most of the hit. Just reduce the 17%/15%/9.5% for the first three places to 10%/9.5%/9% and the deal can drop by 13% with little effect on the rest of us.
The proposed change to a 14 team SPL has been a long time coming but is absolutely unacceptable as the BBC say that it will only be implemented if the Huns are in Div 1. According to them, if they are in Div 3 all bets are off. It's clearly being considered now purely for the benefit of the Huns and not in any way for the benefit of any other team.
Type in "Explain debt to a hun".
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They could do with also not negotiating on the basis of something which is not totally certain. You can be fairly sure of 4 OF games a year but to hinge the entire TV deal on it doesn't take into account relegations, a bottom 6 finish or bankruptcy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eyrie
It's was a lunatic deal in the first place and prices us very low.
Totally agree. The only thing that should be decided this week is where to put new huns (D3 & they should think themselves lucky). Any decision on league reorganisation or merging governing bodies should be properly thought out and debated separately. Anything else will just confirm this as another example of corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
So no TV deal of any sort would be available because Rangers were away for a couple of years extra.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOVRIL
You are suffering from the Stockholm sydrome Mr Doncaster!
:agree:Div 3 should not be the end of it. All the "concessions" the huns were going to make as part of the "promotion" into Div 1 should also apply i.e. they should be forced to pay back every penny owed to other clubs, min 12 month ban from signing payers - extended for taking the SFA to court, punished for double contracts, etc etc. They are on no position to negotiate anything at this point, so we should screw every penny/concession we can out of them while we can. Fail to do that, and we'll all regret it when that arrogant, obnoxious bunch return to the SPL.Quote:
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3pm Saturday kick offs and more fans attracted because of it = lucrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOVRIL
He has signed up for a tv deal that only works when there are 4 old firm games a season, any change in that and the tv deal collapses. Why did he sign up for this, he's a clown who couldn't run a piss up in a brewery?Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
Rangers or newco or whatever they are called, MUST make the top 6 every season. What rules will they change up if thats not the case?
I despair at this, when will we ever learn?
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Bear 1 "EBT's are an instrument" Bear 2 "A Flute?"
Bear 1 "You are insolvent" Bear 2 "Nobody sniffs glue"......
Gave me a good chuckle:greengrin
And not before time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage East
This 'clause' has been repeated ad nauseum in the press, and hinted at by Doncaster, but is it fact?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
I've not seen anything from Sky RE the current deal with a year left to run. Indeed their only statement thus far has been that they have no plans to stop showing Scottish Football.
There is of course an unsigned deal starting 2013 on the table. This will likely need renegotiating, which is entirely Sky's prerogative to do so.
Personally, I think we will keep the current deal, unchanged for the coming season regardless of what happens. Sky won't want to be tarred with this mess so will stay well clear. They have enough heat on them from Government as it is after all. This will bode well for the future as they will see just what happens to subscription numbers in Scotland; I can't think all the Rangers fans will cancel, many will still watch football on Sky, so the Legaue can then negotiate a new deal during next season to replace the unsigned one currently on the table.
I would also assume a deal for whatever league Rangers find themselves in would happen too.
It would be instructive if at the end(?) of this saga someone were to prepare a list of all the falsehoods, obfuscations and downright lies perpetrated by the main players in this game.
From the beginning in February so much crap has been written that I don't believe a word anyone says, without some sort of verification.
It is truly a sad and depressing state of affairs in Scottish football and if the authorities succeed in their ans for NewCo Huns to join SFL Division One, I genuinely fear the Armageddon scenario prophesised by the desperate duo. will come to pass.:confused::confused:
Sounds good and no mention of newco Rangers in the statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage East
Excellent, we'll take that please SFA and we'll have newco in Division 3 at the same time:na na:
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Originally Posted by Cabbage East
You obviously haven't read any of the recent posts on this. I posted earlier that the proposal, which you appear to enthusiastically refer to, was outlined on the BBC and according to them, the proposal only goes ahead if the Huns are in Div. 1. If they are in Div. 3 the proposal is binned. The term 'Rangers' may not appear in the proposal but the proposal is totally about Rangers. Sorry, to take the wind from your sails. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
Much as I loathe the Huns, I'd have to disagree with you. Sevco are a new club and should be treated as such by placing them in Division Three. I'm aware that will mean their return to the SPL in three years having incurred comparatively little debt as they ensure successive promotions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
On the other hand, if they are given an unfair advantage by starting life in Division One then they have to acept the same punishments that Huns RIP would have received. And everything you propose is in total just a good starting point.
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http://www.scotsman.com/sport/a-16-t...ster-1-1668828
Total ****wit Doncaster
Actually spoke to a reasonable Hun in the pub tonight who wants the SFL 3 because of the cheating Murray years. Nothing about getting back at other teams. Quite impressed. :confused:
If NewCo is admitted into D3 they will probably be back in the SPL following successive promotions. So is the question not: are the proposals worth the additional 2 years of no NewCo in the SPL? I think if delivered they would worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
16 team SPL???
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/9338483.stm
Doncaster, ya Donkey
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Originally Posted by John_the_angus_hibby
Don't be so sure. I think they might struggle to get half decent players, if they survuve the humiliation
Maybe I'm missing something here but the proposals will have the Huns back in the SPL in one year.Quote:
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A debt free club with £25 million of funding PA.....struggle :rolleyes:
First to SPL = 1 yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
3rd to SPL = 3 years
Diff = Der Hun in SPL for an additional 2 years
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So the fix is to make sure they get back into the SPL in the 3 years, 3 promotion places stacks the odds of a relatively poor Sevco coming back into the SPL.Quote:
Originally Posted by TQM
Do you think the SFL1 plan is now not what they're planning for and that this is a deal which suits more SFL chairmen than not?
I was explaining a post to Jim44.Quote:
Originally Posted by steakbake
FWIW, I think Der Hun will be in SFL3 - the SFL clubs will ensure it, and the SPL won't take the risk of alienating their teams' core support. Least thats what I'm hoping for.
Sorry, I'd lost the thread a bit. It's become a bit of a saga.Quote:
Originally Posted by TQM
I agree with that, but I'm sure the negotiations are centred around getting Sevco back into the SPL quickly. Suddenly, from nowhere today we hear of a fix to get them back in - almost certainly - in 3 years. Which is a bit of a change because I'm sure earlier we were told that SFL1 was the only real choice.
Doncaster should learn from the idiocy of tying the tv rights, such as they are to a guaranteed number of OF games. I reckon Sevco need serious investment and I don't think Green is one. Without big money, I can't see them making such an easy journey from 3 to 1 to SPL.
My head is spinning with the vagueness and uncertainty. My understanding is that with the most recent proposal Newco goes into Div.1 (for one year), in season 2013-14 (new structure) if in top 3 in season 2013-14 they will be in SPL1 = 1 year absence from SPL.
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Where do you guys get the Huns taking three years to get back to the SPL from? Today's proposal will see them back in one year.Quote:
Originally Posted by steakbake
FFS, sorry - yeah you're right. Well maybe this move is more about trying to convince the SFL1 clubs. 3 promo places a year from 2013-2014. I would still come back to my original point though that Doncaster should learn not to tie his ship to a single anchor. What if they don't make it back in year 1?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
It is the best video on the internet re. the Huns, total classic and very well scripted! I have watched it over 30 times now. My fave line is, "Is any of this making the slightest bit of sense Jabba?" :faf:
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Originally Posted by HibbyDave
I'm probably being a total fanny here, but I read the statement from sfa, spl & sfl pretty different than the bbc one. To me the sfa one reads more like newhun may not get in to sfl at all but there would be a route in next year, or is that just wishful thinking?
oh and by the way ma heids spinnin tae.
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Yes, today's proposal is a wee carrot (3 promotions with Newco a certainty IMHO) But remember, if they don't accept them into Div.1, the new proposal is binned. This means that Newco have to be considered for Div.3 But Regan and Doncaster have said that this WILL NOT happen and they will engineer a situation where Newco will come back to the SFL in one season. As I said earlier, my head is spinning with all these proposals and press reports etc. etc.. I am only absolutely convinced of one thing ........... Rangers will be out of the SPL for no more that one season.Quote:
Originally Posted by steakbake
I would a love it if the meeting went something like this on friday:
Doncaster/Regan: We strongly propose that....
SFL: Shut the ****** up. Here's what's happening. You give us cast iron guarantees of reconstruction and distribution of income immediately. Failure to do so will result in Sevco not being admitted at any level in the SFL.
Doncaster/Regan: But but but we'll bring in SPL 2 and you'll be fu...
SFL: Shut the ****** up. You can have Sevco or no Sevco. Give us what we want, NOW, or we'll ****ing ruin you.
Doncaster/Regan: We'll withhold the Settlement monies...
SFL: No, you ****ing won't. Because we'll sue your sorry, quivering ***** and you'll be monumentally ****ed, possibly insolvent and your clubs will be ****ing begging to be part of the SFL again.
SFL: Anything else? No? Well sign here and ****** off with your tails between your legs.
Pure fantasy of course, but it would be absolutely terrific.
So we know the *****y Scottish Sun are banging the drum for Sevco to be parachuted into SFL1...
I wonder who they'll have acting as cheerleader for Sevco next?
Will it be..Bomber Brown?
Will it be...Andy Goram?
Will it be....Watty Smith?
Will it be.....Sandy Jardine?
NO...none of them!!!
It's Theo Paphitis off of Dragon's Den of course!!!
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...-3-Im-out.html
The 11 SPL clubs said NO to Sevco - ten no's and one abstention - but these jokers didn't get the message. Who gives them the right to gerrymander Sevco into SFL1 and wreck Scottish football in the process? Are media creatures like Burley and other OF parasites running (ruining!) our game? It wouldn't matter to me if Hibs signed McFadden on a three year deal if Sevco are in SFL1. The irony being that RFC died due to outrageous office bearer behaviour over decades, but the ones really being punished for it are long suffering fans of law abiding clubs that are going to be forced to accept the newco and their bigoted fans back in the fold in one year. I start supporting Edinburgh Rugby if that happens.
Rangers have been "naughty"?Quote:
Originally Posted by EK_Hibs
Sorry it was a bit late in the night for me to send a sarcastic post. I thought the :na na: might have given it away :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
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Originally Posted by EK_Hibs
Beware of Greeks fearing rifts. Just take care of your childrens' inheritance, Theo, keep your big nose out of Scottish football.
Sorry for missing the sarcasm and irony. As I've said a few times, my mind is spinning with all this cr@p.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
I reckon there will be a good bit more pant wetting and room for negotiation from our inspired leaders of the game before the voting starts.
I hope that, in the end, integrity (not just sporting integrity) prevails and we see a simple following of the existing rules that place Sevco Scotland into Div 3 (if they are lucky enough for that) with transfer ban and further penalties in place. Plus, the immediate resignation of Doncaster et all with a new unified team/structure in place getting back to grass roots football for the future of our game.
I have a dream...
Yet another ill informed opinion that the old firm are scottish football. The rest of us might as well just not bother were only here to make up the numbersQuote:
Originally Posted by EK_Hibs
Maybe I'm missing something, but surely it's to the advantage of the majority of SFL clubs to have der Hun reborn in SFL 3? If they get lifted straight into the 1st Divison then the vast majority of SFL clubs will miss out on the chance of playing them and therefore sacrifice a big pay-day.
That big pay day is not certain though. Some clubs have voiced concerns about the cost of policing, stewards etc. Plus the grounds are only capable of taking limited numbers. Do we know how many supporters Sevco Scotland have and should it be Div 3, will they really follow them to away games?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiberlin
I never said that ...... The figure remains nil until any new deal could be worked out ... nil it would be until that happens, the guy who wrote the article didnt seem very positive about any deal though.Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
Not sure what the last bit of your post is supposed to mean. If it was aimed at me you can .... well I'm sure you can work it out!
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Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
Pretty sure it will be big enough to fill most 3rd and then 2nd division grounds. Anyway .. I suppose if you are a fan of the Zombie Huns you have a chance to say in 3 or 4 years time that you have been to every ground in Scotland. :greengrin
A follow-up to an excellent article that was in yesterday's Herald, http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...r-spl.18131361.
Which went into greater detail on the back of the blog that appeared last week (see +/- 50 pages back).
Donkastrian pish.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOVRIL
They would also, I imagine the Police would insist, have to make the Rangers games all ticket. The Policing (and stewarding) would initially be overkill until they found a level that was predictable and that may take a wee while so the clubs that played them early might not benefit as much as some may think. Grounds may well need to be reassessed as to their capacity, and given current health and safety legislation, maximising potential income for the club involved is going to be the last thing that is considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
I see this whole venture fraught with more difficulties than I can forsee benefits.
Dencaster has previous when he predicted the demise of numerous Championship clubs, incuding his own, when the On-digital deal collapsed.Quote:
Originally Posted by reallapsedhibee
In fact his own club has done quite well without him.
'As a minimum, clubs in the current third and fourth divisions will receive the settlement agreement proportion guaranteed as per the current arrangement.'Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage East
An agreement to honour a contractual agreement. What, no more threats and bullying ?
Fear of their marauding fans is one of the characteristics that might define "Rangers" as a "toxic brand" (c. alextomo). Chuck them out altogether - SPL, SFL, SFA, Scottish society.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Falcon
If anyone was in any doubt that Doncaster is a compulsive liar.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...em/9338483.stm
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"If the vote goes against two SPL leagues of 10 then we have the status-quo, but that's something that everyone accepts should not be the case," Doncaster said on BBC Radio Scotland's Sportsound programme.
"No one else has put any alternatives up. I think those who want 16 teams in the top flight are deluding themselves.
"That would take a lot of money out of the game, because clubs would play each other just twice.
"So if you take away half of the big games, you're talking about half of the value being lost - around £7m."
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/a-16-t...ster-1-1668828
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Doncaster, who favours a ten-team top flight, insisted that the forum had been a valuable opportunity to get the realities of the situation across to fans.
"I think the most helpful thing from my point of view was being able to explain that the choice we have is not between a ten and a 16, because football cannot afford at this point to go to a system of once home, once away," the SPL chief said.
"So we have to look at alternative models that mean playing twice home, twice away because fans cannot afford to pay more for their football but we need to, wherever we can, bring more money into football."If we go to a 16-team league, which would appear to be the fans' more favoured model, then we would have to find 20m from somewhere else to keep fans on the financial even keel that they are on at the moment and I do not know where that would come from."
Brilliant script. If we could sell tickets for this meeting and televise on SKY/ ESPN, it would generate enough money to keep Scottish Football solvent for the next 10 years. Personally, I'd pay to watch a repeat every night for the whole of next season. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mainboy19
Most Zombie Huns need to start by visiting Ipox....Quote:
Originally Posted by BOVRIL
Apologies if already posted - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylucI-soxJ4 - :greengrin