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Did that daft stadium announcer announce another sell out?Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigHibee
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Originally Posted by Since452
I’m with Andy. It’s a penalty for me. Hands are down by his side and he moves his hands up towards the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig_HFC
Are you thinking your arms have to be dead against the side of your body?Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
Not realistic.
Surely the intention is they aren’t out wider than your body?
In this case both arms were tucked in in front of the body. You can’t be giving penalties for that.
What a horrible run down ground it still looks..not one advertising banner covering any seats,and a load of old tatty flags piled on seats behind the goals..no idea where the cement mixers were hidden..Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigHibee
Was it just me who didnt think they were very good? Someone actually called it in here. Look to get the ball wide as much as possible and put balls into the box and that's exactly what they did
A really good opportunity for the entire nation to see the single tier megastand in all it's glory.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigHibee
It'll be even better if it's ever finished.
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Tynie is still a ****ing dump then I see? **** hole behind both goals.
Oooft, anyone who was scared about the semi final I hope your minds are at ease now !
I wouldn’t take anything at all from that tonight. We didn’t look great in our first game and they’ll undoubtedly be up for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdinMike
I thought we started fantastic and very comfortable against a good Killie side. Hearts hung on and got lucky against a pap Inverness side who are treating the games as friendlies.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
I’m still scared for the Semi mind you. Plukey and Whighton will probably have the game of their lives.
The point I'm make is if it's that easy for a hibs fan to know how they are going to play you would expect better sides to suss then out quicklyQuote:
Originally Posted by Blurry Face
A depleted Inverness tooQuote:
Originally Posted by The 90+2
That haven’t played any friendlies and weren’t match fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
We started the game well, but the longer it went on the more Killie came into it. My point still stands though, it was Hearts first game I wouldn’t read anything into it just because they didn’t look good tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by The 90+2
Can we look past that and concentrate on the the fact they where the worst team in the Prem last season then? Please 😀Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
Happily :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by The 90+2
And Hearts have played Partick 42 times...Quote:
Originally Posted by The 90+2
What’s the goalkeeper doing 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
they got relegated last season yet still beat us twice on our own turf (the second one was a bit of a pumping too)Quote:
Originally Posted by EdinMike
their (and our) performances against other teams will mean nothing come Halloween
We are a very different team to last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
While no games are a given we are much more solid than last year, we have better players than Hearts in every position and I feel quietly confident about this one.
We need to ensure we don’t let what happened last time happen again.
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I recon Gogic is going to play a big part in this one, and with it being a big pitch at Hampden I would like to see Murphy and Boyle playing on each wing to stretch them
Although about double the size of the Tynecastle 5 a side pitch, Hampden has exactly the same dimensions as Easter Road. Agree with playing the 2 players you mentionQuote:
Originally Posted by 147lothian
Hampden isn't a big pitch. It's no bigger than Easter Road.Quote:
Originally Posted by 147lothian
Whilst I agree, I remember seeing the two line ups before the 1-3 game last season and thinking how much stronger we were all over the pitch. Then we got pumped. We will need to be on top form.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
That 1-3 defeat was worse than 0-4 or 1-5 in my mind. Although the stakes were far lower, my expectations were much higher. It was a level playing field, we were at home against a crap, non-financially doped Hearts team, who we had dominated at Tynecastle and who literally could no buy a win. I expected us to ease home comfortably.
But we were not only outfought, we were outplayed in a brilliant Hearts performance, where Stendel got his high press tactics spot on.
Yes, we should win at Hampden, but we 'should have' won back then. It's losable tie if we don't shape up. Focus and aggression will be important. We will have to fight hard for the right to play football in this game. If we get an early goal we could hurt them badly. If not, it could be a bitter slog.
That 1-3 was the angriest I’ve ever came away from a match for the reasons you state.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
They just completely out fought us and wanted it so much more. I hope JR learned a lot from that game and we never are a timid in a derby again.
Totally agree. Always felt that game was maybe a good thing prior to the semi final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibstrooper
I do think hearts have a better squad now though with vast experience
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Originally Posted by Hibstrooper
I remember being totally shell-shocked, it was our worst derby performance for a long long time.
We got our formation wrong too, Hearts doubled up on our wingbacks and constantly overlapped.
They have extra income of around £3m each year from James Anderson currently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
They will go into this game with a point to proof, with no better way of making it than beating us in semi.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
As far as they are concerned their relegation should never have happened and they should be challenging for that coveted third spot in the SPL, and a win would validate all the crap they put out on how they would have played their way out of the bottom spot.
Going into a game against them as the favourites always makes me nervous and I will likely stay that way until we are 4 - 0 up.
Fantastic result for Fartz last night.
What a team!
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Without that they'd struggle. Big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by cocteautwin
Proves how fragile a club they really are.
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Their high press game worked that day. We had no time on the ball and could barely string two passes together. Neilson's tactics will be very different. Hopefully, we are better prepared this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibstrooper
We have no excuses for the semi final.
We’ve been playing competitive football at a high level for months now, they are just starting and playing lower level.
We have spent money on a strong first team and, probably for the first time that i can remember, player for player i would put our eleven ahead of theirs.
I rate our manager higher than their manager as well.
Everything is in our favour going into this one, our form is excellent as well.
The only thing, and it is significant, that Hearts have is that sense of injustice and what i would imagine is a hugely powerful motivational factor of wanting to put things right for their fans.
We need to have something that gives us that same fire in our bellies as if we match their desire and work rate, we will hammer them on quality.
Some discussion on whether Hearts should have had a player red carded here.
https://twitter.com/PremierSportsTV/...126870017?s=19
Yes but to be fair, it's his money to give them if he wants to. We wouldn't consider it "doping" if a Hibs fan won the Euro lottery and decided to give the club a few milliin a year. In the past, they have relied on borrowing money they couldn't afford and in the Vlad days they had an owner who was a crook spending other peoples money and basically stealing from people to fund their 1st team.Quote:
Originally Posted by cocteautwin
Budge is a lot of things, but she's not a thief and Anderson is perfectly entitled to give his money to whoever he wants. Thankfully Anne, Levein and Stendel were very, very good at squandering it...but I suspect Neilson will be a much more astute manager in the long term.
Wightons is a red every day of the week. You can’t deliberately kick someone in the head, no matter how ‘softly’ you do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
The one on Halkett certainly isn’t clever but I don’t think it’s a red. Any other stadium he wouldn’t have went flying into the boards which are ridiculously close to the pitch. A stonewall yellow, a red would be a stretch for me though.
They underperformed scandalously across the whole season but for that game they actually managed to put together a team that was actually pretty good. When they had Washington, Boyce, Clare, Naismith all available at the same time they were certainly a trickier prospect.Quote:
Originally Posted by NadeAteMyLunch!
Of course we seemed to collectively have a nightmare which didn’t help but that Hearts team were more dangerous than one they could put out now.
It’s more of a punishments making him play than it would be to suspend him 😀Quote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
:agree: nothing wrong with Anderson giving them money. It's his money.Quote:
Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
Wighton should have been given a red, I'd never want him to be suspended though...terrible player!Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Definitely should have been a yellow for Storey, nothing more.
Absolutely. Although we are the far superior team with better players I want us to go out as if we're playing Celtic or Rangers. Need to fully concentrate and play out out skin. If we do we'll be in the final no doubt about it..Quote:
Originally Posted by NadeAteMyLunch!
I think Mikey Stewart might be wishing he hadn't dug his heels in so hard with that one, there's 2 sending off offences there for me, raking his studs down the ICT player's groin, then flicking his boot in his face.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
I do think the other one is a red card as well though, was pretty dangerous (more so in that **** hole of a stadium given the proximity of the hoardings).
They've struggled with that money. They had access to more funds than the combined total of Killie, Ross County, St Mirren and Hamilton but still ended up four points adrift of the worst of them. In addition they still haven't finished the £10m stand despite spending £24m on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EI255
Tom English keeps telling us that Budge is a successful businesswoman but the evidence strongly suggests otherwise.
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Originally Posted by matty_f
Really? That’s pretty depressing.
I think we have had far better teams than them at times over the last 30+ years.
The last time they had a better squad than us was back in Vlad’s days.
Yup. Unless Matty means literally every single player is better. But we’ve had a better first 11 for at least 5 years now.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
Hearts fans could maybe argue Smith better than McGinn, Halkett better than Porteous or Hanlon but even they two are highly debatable.
Marciano
One of Hanlon or Porto (or imo both)
Stevenson
Gogic
Newell
Boyle
Murphy
Nisbet
Doidge
Would all walk into their starting 11. And then you could also throw in Allan and Magennis and potentially even a few others.
Genuinely think we’re arguably better in every position with 2 or 3 on the bench who are still better than what they have starting. Only player I could accept an argument for would be Michael Smith but even then we’ve got the ever dependable McGinn.
Mickey Stewart is a fud. The challenge on Halkett only look bad because of their ****ty pitch which is so close to the advertisements boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
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Originally Posted by calumhibee1
The Halkett incident has bad optics, but at virtually every other ground in Scotland, Halkett is on the turf and isn't clattering into advertising hoardings at the front of the stand and it's a yellow.
You have to wonder if there are players in Scottish football looking at that incident and questioning their safety playing at Tynecastle, clattering into the stands could cause some serious injuries.
Will we ever learn...
The last time we were going to gub them we had grown men almost in tears on here absolutely soiling themselves at the thought that Stendel had revolutionised football with his unstoppable "high press", so mighty that it got them gubbed and relegated by St Mirren the week after.
Likewise, considering some of the derby performances weve been through as Hibs fans, that personally to me was the worst derby display I can remember seeing. Just had absolutely no passion, desire, fight or anything positive at all for that matter. Will hopefully serve as a reminder to not only the players but to us fans to never ever take derbys for granted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibstrooper
Yeah I think we've had better teams (don't think even they could argue that) but I don't think we've had position for position the best team for a long time (as in none of their players would get into our eleven).Quote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
There probably have been a few times where that's been the case, but not many.
Conversely, I don't think Hearts have been position for position better than us in that period either, we've always had a couple of players that would get into their first team.
Hearts did to us what we did to them when they had Neilson managing them. Utterly depressingQuote:
Originally Posted by Sean1875
Naismith for his experience and I can say 100% hand on heart nobody else. Before anyone suggests plukey, Lennon or slippy G would agree and have Marciano. We even have a much, much better manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Jack Ross underestimated them being bottom of the league *****. It won’t happen again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
I don't think any of their first eleven get in our team at the moment, from goalkeeper right through to striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by The 90+2
Please don't introduce the concept of evidence of her actual performance with all that money into the debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
She stated she spent specifically to avoid relegation and that should be good enough for us.
Budge must, simply must, stay.
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I really, really hope not. I have to say that Ross’s post-match comments really disturbed me. He just didn’t seem to think that losing a derby to the worst Hearts team in living memory was that big a deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by The 90+2
I wouldnt put too much store by that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Hibee
Managers post match comments are rarely an accurate reflection on the events, many times they are designed not to deflate already upset players - even more so after losing a derby.
I don't think anyone at the club will be under any illusions about the importance of this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Hibee
Opportunities to right wrongs don't come along often. We know the record we have against them at Hampden and our last two trips to face them there have been disastrous.
The club have built up a huge amount of goodwill with the fans on and off the park since we last played, but there shouldn't be any doubt about how quickly that can be lost if we don't turn up for this game.
You can argue all day about whether it's right or wrong to rest everything like that on one game, but there's no denying that a bad result for Hibs will set the club back significantly.
A good result, though, will propel us forward - a cup final to look forward, the top team in the city in emphatic fashion, and a real buzz amongst the fans - that's what's at stake.
Yeah, I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Hibee
Don't get me wrong - I really like Ross and I'm 100% behind him but he was all over the shop at that derby. I don't like to hear "just another game" stuff. You don't hear that from them - you get "never, ever, lose to Hibs" and their good record in derbies is down to how seriously they take it. They've had pish teams punch way above their weight against better Hibs sides often in the past as a result. It's also helped a horrific manager like Levein buy himself a lot more time than he was actually due.
This game is massive, and needs to be treated as such. Hibs played that game like it was "just another game" and got exactly what they deserved.
They better not make the same mistake again.
We do have a few players ideally suited to a derby now that we didn't have in March. Gogic is the type of player that could own the game the way Bartley did, and having a player like Nisbet who can combine a potent scoring threat with comfortably being able to do the ugly stuff will be massive. And in a game where the first goal is always significant, having a solid defence who are standing up strong will be huge too.
I was far too half-arsed and I wasn't impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Tears and snotters or throwing the players under the bus might be a bit undignified but we needed a bit more than that after such a passive performance.
Totally agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
One thing we need to be extra careful of is getting a man sent off early. They will thump, rush, kick and shove their way through this and target likely Hibs men who might react. Jack needs to let the players be aware of this. Especially those who haven't played in a game like this before.
Its a pity, but you just KNOW Hearts will make an ugly battle of this as they try to overcome the bigger team.
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Watched the game last night. I didn’t think Hearts played very well but should probably have been a couple of goals up by HT. Penalty was very dubious.
By full-time I thought Inverness had done enough to warrant a draw, they looked the stronger side at the end which was really surprising.
Hearts winger looks good going forward putting in a number of decent crosses but cannot defend at all.
Hearts defence was really poor and I thought a few players were carrying a bit excess timber.
Once they made a few substitutions they looked totally disjointed, maybe new players not knowing their jobs.
Personally I’d see Hibs comfortably beating them based on quality & sharpness. Things may change though.
Funnily enough I had a look at Keekback and they seemed to think it was a good performance, that would concern me if it was Hibs I was watching.
Who would you drop from the Hibs starting line-up to accommodate Naismith?Quote:
Originally Posted by The 90+2
A lot of the comments I've seen from over the road would tend to suggest that he shouldn't be in their starting eleven never mind ours.
Tam McCourt?Quote:
Originally Posted by mal
There are not any circumstances that I can contemplate where I would put Naismith in the Hibs team ahead of Doidge or Nisbet.Quote:
Originally Posted by mal
It's been four decades and more since I've felt really confident about easily winning a derby match. Let me assure you that this time,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, nothing has changed. :greengrin
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Originally Posted by Saint Hibee
Depends how long you've been living I guess. I've seen a few worse ones, in particular the late 70s versions which got relegated three times.
But yes, losing that derby in the manner we did was shocking. I was stunned by how badly we played.
Completely agree. He's a horrible wee **** to boot. Can't stand him. His attitude to opposition players and teams is totally disrespectful, he's a snidey wee git not afraid to leave the boot in and deliberately injure players. He's never worth the wages he'll be on and it'll not be long again before he's back on the treatment table with his injury track record. Not Hibs class, never was.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
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Originally Posted by Ryan91
As the Pie Man said nearly 20 years ago: Tynecastle is not fit for purpose.
Absolutely no chance. Naismith is nowhere near the level of Doidge is Nisbet anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Apparently the coveted number 9 shirt is still available. BIG BIG signing to fill it
Nade?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gmack7
There are two Hearts teams; one used for training, selection, and preparation that doesn't give a toss about winning games, trophies or Europe. And one that runs out against Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
Essentially, James Anderson FOH and unsuspecting charities, small businesses and EDC are pumping in millions to try win 4 games a season. That's why they're so pissed about being relegated.
Are they retiring it in honour of the number of attempts they had at reconstructionQuote:
Originally Posted by Gmack7
They are so utterly obsessed and consumed with beating us everything else goes to **** and they sit in the Championship with Arbroath boasting about their derby record that nobody really gives a toss about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
It will be just our luck to have Boyle, Gogic and Nisbet having to self isolate just before the semi
Not quite nobody.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
No, I don’t want to be fair on them :greengrin There’s no suggestion that they are doing anything wrong with their fund raising, we just need reminding every so often that we are not on the same level financially as Hearts.Quote:
Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
Too often I read on here that we are somehow both now on a level playing field - this really isn’t the case. They’ve pushed through the best part of £30m of extraneous funds in the past few years. They are streets ahead of us when we compare annual incomes. Fortunately, through appalling management, this hasn’t translated on to the pitch.
yep. They’re well ahead of us financially, and this will be the fourth consecutive season where they are behind us on the pitch. Extremely pleasing.Quote:
Originally Posted by cocteautwin
Fair points..I guess it revolves around what we mean by the term "doping". Certainly they have burnt through a lot more cash than us in the last few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by cocteautwin
It's not how much you've got, but what you're doing with what you've got and who is steering the boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
Can I just say what a cracking job Mrs doctor Budge continues to do. Hearts slump on all fronts hasn't just happened on it's own and they've managed to be even more disliked and an object of ridicule almost simultaneously.
Marvellous.
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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
I wonder what else she could achieve, given time?
“Oops I accidentally burned Tynecastle to the ground by leaving my hair curlers plugged into our dodgy wiring.”
“I’ve managed to commit 10,000 Hearts fans to getting involved in the Armenia/Azerbaijan border dispute, quite by accident.”
“I forgot to mention my fever and cough before getting on a plane and now I’ve caused a global spike in Covid infections.”
Possibly all 3 by tea time, given her multi-tasking abilities.
I'm wondering if the golf guy will be equally gaffe prone and therefore capable of being delegated to so the good doctor can get her teeth into even bigger **** ups?Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
There's still plenty donations to blow.
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If this was uttered in say, the manner and dialect of DCI Hastings of Line of Duty, this would be more pleasing still. Tell me that’s how you say it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Iggy Pope
I didn’t float up the Lagan in a bubble!
:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
My granny’s housecoat covered everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
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Originally Posted by Iggy Pope
Have you been sucking Diesel?
I’m more concerned we might end up with the worst keeper I’ve seen in the SPL starting for us 🙈 I’m sure he’s a good coach thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Ewan Murray is boycotting PPV involving Cowdenbeath, Donald Finlay will be devastated....
“People can obviously do as they choose with their money but handing over a tenner which Cowdenbeath can claim a % of won’t feature in the top 3000 things I’ll be doing this weekend.”
Reading Ewen Murray's column in the Guardian is another expense to value worth avoiding. Might send a tenner to Cowdenbeath to make up this bellends loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
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Is this because Donald Findlay is chairman?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
I think it’s more do do with Ewan Murray being a knobQuote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
I thought Guardian journalists were thought to be quite intelligent rather than moronic as in his case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Yeah, I'm surprised at the Guardian employing that particular bell end. He's a jambo with an agenda not a true journalist. Same with Ton Englisher, Levein and Budge's bestie.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
That’s just embarrassing.
That Jambo £ must be going up on the old stock market if he doesn’t want to part with them...