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Donegal Hibby
18-08-2024, 06:35 PM
You were wrong with your analysis of what he was apparently doing wrong last week, and Bursic played very poorly today. Sometimes two totally separate things can be true at the same time.

I haven’t really seen the first two goals again but at the time I thought there wasn’t a lot he could do about them . The 3rd one , ekpiteta should never have put the ball back , felt he had a ball he could play to Miller . Don’t know if Bursik could have done much with it as Khun was on top of him right away.

LaMotta
18-08-2024, 06:40 PM
I haven’t really seen the first two goals again but at the time I thought there wasn’t a lot he could do about them . The 3rd one , ekpiteta should never have put the ball back , felt he had a ball he could play to Miller . Don’t know if Bursik could have done much with it as Khun was on top of him right away.

Bursic was very poor at the second goal and disastrous at the third. A keeper making that mistake at amateur level would be getting rightly ripped.

MWHIBBIES
18-08-2024, 06:46 PM
I haven’t really seen the first two goals again but at the time I thought there wasn’t a lot he could do about them . The 3rd one , ekpiteta should never have put the ball back , felt he had a ball he could play to Miller . Don’t know if Bursik could have done much with it as Khun was on top of him right away.

Just kick it out for a throw. He passes it the way the guy is coming. It's brain-dead goalkeeping.

Pretty Boy
18-08-2024, 06:54 PM
I haven’t really seen the first two goals again but at the time I thought there wasn’t a lot he could do about them . The 3rd one , ekpiteta should never have put the ball back , felt he had a ball he could play to Miller . Don’t know if Bursik could have done much with it as Khun was on top of him right away.

I defended last week but he's hugely culpable for the 2nd and 3rd today. Not solely but a major player.

2nd he has to make a decision. Either commit early and clear man and ball and risk getting hurt or hold his position and be in an area he can make a save. He commits to neither, CB doesn't do his job either and as soon as the striker gets a touch he is in no mans land and totally helpless.

3rd is a poor back pass but it is salvageable. He can be brave and let it run across his body, open up and play it to Miller. Difficult but achievable. Or he can just ****ing hoof it and clear the decks. Take the man as well if he has to. In both instances you can then go nuts about the pass back whilst not being in any worse off a position. Instead he commits to neither and gets caught on the ball and tries to rush a pass, doesn't get it away and it's a goal.

The biggest issue with both is the indecisiveness. That always suggests a keeper who is toiling with confidence. They start either making rash decisions or not making any decisions and for both those goals Bursik fell into the latter camp. He had another woeful kick later that saw Celtic get a shot away which he did well to save albeit I'd expect him to make the save every day of the week.

I'm not hounding him by any stretch, I thought trying to blame him for the 2nd goal last week was madness, but there isn't much scope to defend him today. He done some things well too but again nothing you wouldn't expect a competent keeper to do. A decent block at feet in the 2nd half and claiming a few floated crosses under little pressure. He had one good punch under pressure that was probably better than many will give credit for.

A poor day at the office for him though. No keeper can be culpable for 2 goals conceded and he satisfied with their performance and I doubt he will be.

Paul1642
18-08-2024, 07:14 PM
A few folk on here are understandably asking some question about the signing of Bursic however it’s the signing of Jordan Smith that’s got me baffled. 29 year old and he’s lucky if he has 50 games within the top 4 divisions. Couldn’t get a game for league 2 Stockport last season or league 1 Huddersfield the year before.

If we had signed someone a bit more promising as our second chose keeper, then dropping Bursic if needs be would be a much less concerning prospect as it is now.

Willis1875
18-08-2024, 07:22 PM
A few folk on here are understandably asking some question about the signing of Bursic however it’s the signing of Jordan Smith that’s got me baffled. 29 year old and he’s lucky if he has 50 games within the top 4 divisions. Couldn’t get a game for league 2 Stockport last season or league 1 Huddersfield the year before.

If we had signed someone a bit more promising as our second chose keeper, then dropping Bursic if needs be would be a much less concerning prospect as it is now.

Gave him a 2 year deal aswell,baffling

GreenCastle
18-08-2024, 07:33 PM
A few folk on here are understandably asking some question about the signing of Bursic however it’s the signing of Jordan Smith that’s got me baffled. 29 year old and he’s lucky if he has 50 games within the top 4 divisions. Couldn’t get a game for league 2 Stockport last season or league 1 Huddersfield the year before.

If we had signed someone a bit more promising as our second chose keeper, then dropping Bursic if needs be would be a much less concerning prospect as it is now.

It was one of the weirdest signings we have made and we have made a few.

We also have the Craig Samson coaching effect in full force - made the Aberdeen keepers worse.

Some folk saying it’s too early but as a fan I’m getting worried every time a team has a shot or puts a ball into the box on the ground - can’t imagine what the players are thinking. He’s ok at taking crosses but apart from that I really think Hibs need to upgrade seriously soon or this thread will be a weekly theme.

Cabbage-Patch
18-08-2024, 07:59 PM
In all seriousness I think we need to arrange a loan deal for Boruc and get another keeper in pronto. I know it's early days but Bursik gives me the proper fear. Shades of Gottskalkson and Zibby. Another absolute gem unearthed by the golden quadrant....

hibee-boys
18-08-2024, 09:17 PM
Another in a long line of Hibs goalkeepers who make the saves you’d expect a keeper to make but rarely the kind of saves that make you points over a season. I think his positioning was off for the first 2, no need for him to be coming off his line, especially for the 2nd. Less said about the 3rd the better.

Chorley Hibee
18-08-2024, 09:21 PM
A few folk on here are understandably asking some question about the signing of Bursic however it’s the signing of Jordan Smith that’s got me baffled. 29 year old and he’s lucky if he has 50 games within the top 4 divisions. Couldn’t get a game for league 2 Stockport last season or league 1 Huddersfield the year before.

If we had signed someone a bit more promising as our second chose keeper, then dropping Bursic if needs be would be a much less concerning prospect as it is now.

Trust the process...

Criswell
19-08-2024, 12:20 AM
Does not fill me with any confidence from what I have seen so far. Admittedly, not been helped by some shambolic defending. The transfer window is still open and we really need to address obvious weaknesses in the team. If we don't things could soon become very ugly.

McGruber
19-08-2024, 07:05 AM
I defended last week but he's hugely culpable for the 2nd and 3rd today. Not solely but a major player.

2nd he has to make a decision. Either commit early and clear man and ball and risk getting hurt or hold his position and be in an area he can make a save. He commits to neither, CB doesn't do his job either and as soon as the striker gets a touch he is in no mans land and totally helpless.

3rd is a poor back pass but it is salvageable. He can be brave and let it run across his body, open up and play it to Miller. Difficult but achievable. Or he can just ****ing hoof it and clear the decks. Take the man as well if he has to. In both instances you can then go nuts about the pass back whilst not being in any worse off a position. Instead he commits to neither and gets caught on the ball and tries to rush a pass, doesn't get it away and it's a goal.

The biggest issue with both is the indecisiveness. That always suggests a keeper who is toiling with confidence. They start either making rash decisions or not making any decisions and for both those goals Bursik fell into the latter camp. He had another woeful kick later that saw Celtic get a shot away which he did well to save albeit I'd expect him to make the save every day of the week.

I'm not hounding him by any stretch, I thought trying to blame him for the 2nd goal last week was madness, but there isn't much scope to defend him today. He done some things well too but again nothing you wouldn't expect a competent keeper to do. A decent block at feet in the 2nd half and claiming a few floated crosses under little pressure. He had one good punch under pressure that was probably better than many will give credit for.

A poor day at the office for him though. No keeper can be culpable for 2 goals conceded and he satisfied with their performance and I doubt he will be.

Agree with all that but personally don't even feel there was much of a decision to make for the 2nd goal, defender tracking and attacker is never going to get much on it even if he gets there. Stay in the goals, boys never scoring from that.

Fuzzywuzzy
19-08-2024, 08:11 AM
From the games that I've seen so far this season we'd be better off bring marshall back. The guy looks dreadful. That being said, as a whole we do not look good. The early league cup seems to have flattered to deceive (except kelty). For a core team that has been together a while they look like strangers out there.

sauzee1989
19-08-2024, 08:21 AM
We signed two goalkeepers and now still need two goalkeepers and we signed two centre backs and we still need another 3 centre backs 😂

blackpoolhibs
19-08-2024, 08:35 AM
I'm calling it now, he's crap, nowhere near good enough, a downgrade from Marshall.

No presence, awful with the ball at his feet, rather than save us points, he will lose us points.:******:

WestStandWillie
19-08-2024, 08:44 AM
Our recruitment team has made a complete balls up of getting keepers in.

Bursik has played around 50 games since season 20/21
Smith has played roughly 25 games since season 18/19

Why on earth have we signed two keepers who were essentially back ups? Two inexperienced keepers (granted there were injuries but they were still backups) is not what's needed nor will it ever be.

If we're going down that route, we should have kept Murray instead of loaning him out. Complete shortsightedness.

Alfred E Newman
19-08-2024, 08:47 AM
I'm calling it now, he's crap, nowhere near good enough, a downgrade from Marshall.

No presence, awful with the ball at his feet, rather than save us points, he will lose us points.:******:

That's fair enough but it's not his fault he is between the sticks. The people that should be getting the flak are the clowns that are responsible for signing these players.

Spike Mandela
19-08-2024, 08:52 AM
I have to question David Gray and Malky Mackay’s judgment in choosing such a young keeper as their number one.

I thought David especially, building his first ever team as a manager, would insist on an experienced goalie, an international or on the fringes of an international side. It would have given him a solid base to build a team on, a good goalie can marshall the defence, no pun intended, and give them reassurance whilst an untrusted goalie can make the defence jittery.

Hopefully the young lad comes good and has mental strength as his confidence has bound to have taken a hit recently.

Lago
19-08-2024, 09:07 AM
A few folk on here are understandably asking some question about the signing of Bursic however it’s the signing of Jordan Smith that’s got me baffled. 29 year old and he’s lucky if he has 50 games within the top 4 divisions. Couldn’t get a game for league 2 Stockport last season or league 1 Huddersfield the year before.

If we had signed someone a bit more promising as our second chose keeper, then dropping Bursic if needs be would be a much less concerning prospect as it is now.
Further calls into question Hibs recruitment process.

Springbank
19-08-2024, 09:07 AM
I defended last week but he's hugely culpable for the 2nd and 3rd today. Not solely but a major player.

2nd he has to make a decision. Either commit early and clear man and ball and risk getting hurt or hold his position and be in an area he can make a save. He commits to neither, CB doesn't do his job either and as soon as the striker gets a touch he is in no mans land and totally helpless.

3rd is a poor back pass but it is salvageable. He can be brave and let it run across his body, open up and play it to Miller. Difficult but achievable. Or he can just ****ing hoof it and clear the decks. Take the man as well if he has to. In both instances you can then go nuts about the pass back whilst not being in any worse off a position. Instead he commits to neither and gets caught on the ball and tries to rush a pass, doesn't get it away and it's a goal.

The biggest issue with both is the indecisiveness. That always suggests a keeper who is toiling with confidence. They start either making rash decisions or not making any decisions and for both those goals Bursik fell into the latter camp. He had another woeful kick later that saw Celtic get a shot away which he did well to save albeit I'd expect him to make the save every day of the week.

I'm not hounding him by any stretch, I thought trying to blame him for the 2nd goal last week was madness, but there isn't much scope to defend him today. He done some things well too but again nothing you wouldn't expect a competent keeper to do. A decent block at feet in the 2nd half and claiming a few floated crosses under little pressure. He had one good punch under pressure that was probably better than many will give credit for.

A poor day at the office for him though. No keeper can be culpable for 2 goals conceded and he satisfied with their performance and I doubt he will be.

I agree with every word of this

Mcbizz1998
19-08-2024, 09:30 AM
I’d genuinely just play Boruc if that’s the options we have by the end of the window.

CentreForward
19-08-2024, 09:30 AM
He certainly hasn’t made a promising start and hard to see him suddenly coming good. He also doesn’t look the part either. Too small for a goalie, no stature or presence.

allezsauzee
19-08-2024, 09:50 AM
He was poor at the 2nd and 3rd goals but I don't get why he's being singled out while Ekpiteta seems to be getting away without any criticism. I thought he was more culpable for both goals and looks worse than Rocky which is saying something.

Springbank
19-08-2024, 10:05 AM
He was poor at the 2nd and 3rd goals but I don't get why he's being singled out while Ekpiteta seems to be getting away without any criticism. I thought he was more culpable for both goals and looks worse than Rocky which is saying something.

There's a post on the previous page that nails it

Ekpiteta could do better at both goals.. however.. goal #3 it's a poor passback but very very salvageable for any goalies. You just whack the ball any direction, give away a corner or a throw. Just don't be hesitant. Boot it & then give Ekpiteta a piece of your mind. I can't believe that's not the Natural Instinct for a keeper, any keeper

Our lad does the one thing that guaranteed a goal. So soft, from an eminently salvageable situation.

blackpoolhibs
19-08-2024, 10:48 AM
That's fair enough but it's not his fault he is between the sticks. The people that should be getting the flak are the clowns that are responsible for signing these players.

Yip i agree with that, yet here we are with a downgrade in goalkeeper from a very average one in Marshall.

And today we have Gray telling us that players will be coming in, but they have to be the right players.

So far we needed as a priority 2 centre halves and a keeper, are these the right players, as so far two of them look far from it?

Add in a couple of full backs who are terrible at defending, it does not bode well for us leaking goals like we've done for ages.

GreenCastle
19-08-2024, 10:58 AM
He was poor at the 2nd and 3rd goals but I don't get why he's being singled out while Ekpiteta seems to be getting away without any criticism. I thought he was more culpable for both goals and looks worse than Rocky which is saying something.

I think both aren't helping each other right now.

St Mirren passbook then the 2nd and 3rd goal yesterday.

https://youtu.be/dsSBc5wtgM0?si=hW19Bvrcv2pQTewk

If you look at the clip above - 1 min 10 seconds - Ekpiteta should be dealing with that - but the ball trickles in and I have no idea what Bursic is doing - he doesn't go low - he doesn't go high - just a weird move to come out and watch the ball slowly go into empty net.

If Bursic stays on his line he saves that!!

1 min 42 seconds into this clip you see the 3rd goal - Ekpiteta could easily play to Miller / Boyle or hoof it up the park - instead it's a pass back which is curving away from Bursic - saying that Bursic attempt of clearing looks like he's wanting Celtic to score a 3rd - absolutely awful. The awareness and soft touch is mind boggling.

I was told defenders should mostly play pass backs away from the goal to avoid this - bottom line 2 players not doing themselves any favours and wouldn't be surprised if both are dropped next week.

Unseen work
19-08-2024, 01:58 PM
It’s even worse when you look at the still images 28112

Hibernia&Alba
19-08-2024, 02:16 PM
That's fair enough but it's not his fault he is between the sticks. The people that should be getting the flak are the clowns that are responsible for signing these players.

One hundred per cent. Players don’t sign and pick themselves. Bursik hasn’t played a lot of football, and it could be the effects of that that we are seeing just now. It’s very early days for him; let’s see how he goes.

Hibees1973
19-08-2024, 02:55 PM
Recruitment for goalkeepers and at centre half is beyond belief.

We have Marshall on the payroll. You would have thought with his extensive time down south and knowledge he would know of decent goalkeepers who would solve our problems.

It defies logic if Bursik is the best they can come up with. Makes me feel there is something going on at the club, for example satisfying particular agents, or is it purely incompetence.

TrinityHFC
19-08-2024, 05:22 PM
Recruitment for goalkeepers and at centre half is beyond belief.

We have Marshall on the payroll. You would have thought with his extensive time down south and knowledge he would know of decent goalkeepers who would solve our problems.

It defies logic if Bursik is the best they can come up with. Makes me feel there is something going on at the club, for example satisfying particular agents, or is it purely incompetence.

Marshall was involved. He talked about how Marshall called him about the move.

Perhaps we should give the players some time to bed in eh? Changing a keeper and two centre halfs will need time and work to get right.

Hibees1973
19-08-2024, 05:40 PM
Marshall was involved. He talked about how Marshall called him about the move.

Perhaps we should give the players some time to bed in eh? Changing a keeper and two centre halfs will need time and work to get right.

Maybe, but Gray was quoted yesterday some players places are at risk.

That must include the goalkeeper and our central defenders going on performances so far.

theonlywayisup
19-08-2024, 05:47 PM
He was poor at the 2nd and 3rd goals but I don't get why he's being singled out while Ekpiteta seems to be getting away without any criticism. I thought he was more culpable for both goals and looks worse than Rocky which is saying something.

Jackie McNamara in this podcast critical of the passback to the goalkeeper, pointing out wouldn't happen in his day. His point is valid and Ekpiteta should have played the ball down the line.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/videos/cx29neyk0ldo

TrinityHFC
19-08-2024, 07:16 PM
Jackie McNamara in this podcast critical of the passback to the goalkeeper, pointing out wouldn't happen in his day. His point is valid and Ekpiteta should have played the ball down the line.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/videos/cx29neyk0ldo

Gary Neville was losing his mind earlier on some strange new stuff Liverpool players were doing with the ball at the back at the weekend.

I can see why it happened though. Yes we'd played a bit longer at other times but Gray had also asked the team to be much braver on the ball and not just give it right back to them. I'm sure it will improve once they get used to playing with each other.

JimBHibees
19-08-2024, 07:39 PM
Marshall was involved. He talked about how Marshall called him about the move.

Perhaps we should give the players some time to bed in eh? Changing a keeper and two centre halfs will need time and work to get right.

Allowing young guys time to settle in new surroundings would seem sensible

B.H.F.C
19-08-2024, 07:48 PM
Gary Neville was losing his mind earlier on some strange new stuff Liverpool players were doing with the ball at the back at the weekend.

I can see why it happened though. Yes we'd played a bit longer at other times but Gray had also asked the team to be much braver on the ball and not just give it right back to them. I'm sure it will improve once they get used to playing with each other.

The mistake from the goalie in not just dealing with it had nothing to do with them getting used to each other. It was just *****. But it was a bas decision from Ekpiteta in the first place.

We’ve lost goals three games on the trot which have started with the same player trying to pass back to the goalie. Once you can say is unlucky. Twice in the space of a week you’re asking questions. Three times in a fortnight is just ridiculous. They have to learn quicker, particularly Ekpiteta who is an experienced player.

Fuzzywuzzy
19-08-2024, 08:49 PM
He was poor at the 2nd and 3rd goals but I don't get why he's being singled out while Ekpiteta seems to be getting away without any criticism. I thought he was more culpable for both goals and looks worse than Rocky which is saying something.

You're right about ekpiteta. For an older player he does seem to have poor decision making during games (certainly the last three games)

ChuckNor
24-08-2024, 04:16 PM
That’s enough. Get him out.

Hibs3-2
24-08-2024, 04:21 PM
Get rid.

JohnM1875
24-08-2024, 04:22 PM
Was he that bad today? No chance with the first and O’Hora left him with a one on one.

Made a really good save at 2-1 at his near post. And a few other routine saves.

Postiga
24-08-2024, 04:24 PM
Rotten distribution, looks anything but assured in his demeanour. All great saying bring in someone else but I have no faith in the recruitment as the other keeper looks even worse.

Imagine set pieces at tynecastle with this guy in goals, heart attack incoming.

kentao
24-08-2024, 04:24 PM
Hopefully be able to get Will Denis or Paulson from Bournemouth before the windows shuts.

lyonhibs
24-08-2024, 04:28 PM
Hopefully be able to get Will Denis or Paulson from Bournemouth before the windows shuts.

Do you know anything about either of those 2/seen them play, beyond that the are contracted to our Big Brother Club?

Pretty Boy
24-08-2024, 04:30 PM
I genuinely wonder if him being left footed is causing some of the issues with distribution and general ease when knocking it back to him. We don't seem to have got to grips with that at all.

I'd need to see the second goal again but I'm laying that on the defence today. First is a shocker of a clearance then pathetic attempts at tackling and blocking, 2nd is a CB switching off when the most energetic striker in the league is stalking him.

Silky
24-08-2024, 04:30 PM
Hopefully be able to get Will Denis or Paulson from Bournemouth before the windows shuts.

He'll be crap behind that defence as well.

Pretty Boy
24-08-2024, 04:31 PM
Do you know anything about either of those 2/seen them play, beyond that the are contracted to our Big Brother Club?

Dennis played 30+ games for Killie last year.

Unseen work
24-08-2024, 04:34 PM
Hopefully be able to get Will Denis or Paulson from Bournemouth before the windows shuts.

Paulson went on loan to Auckland

Centre Hawf
24-08-2024, 04:35 PM
Do you know anything about either of those 2/seen them play, beyond that the are contracted to our Big Brother Club?

Thought Will Dennis was a good safe pair of hands for Killie last year. Would be a great addition I think. Paulson I think has actually went out on loan to the other A-League side in the network so that'll not happen now.

lyonhibs
24-08-2024, 04:36 PM
Dennis played 30+ games for Killie last year.

Ah fair enough then. My knowledge of opposition players is woeful.

Hibiza
24-08-2024, 04:36 PM
Yet another passenger by the looks of things.

kentao
24-08-2024, 04:40 PM
Do you know anything about either of those 2/seen them play, beyond that the are contracted to our Big Brother Club?

You mean the Will Denis that is tried and tested in this league with the highest save percentage last season. Got his club European football and happens to be part of the BK group. Instead we have loaned a random who looks pretty poor to date.

JimBHibees
24-08-2024, 04:41 PM
I genuinely wonder if him being left footed is causing some of the issues with distribution and general ease when knocking it back to him. We don't seem to have got to grips with that at all.

I'd need to see the second goal again but I'm laying that on the defence today. First is a shocker of a clearance then pathetic attempts at tackling and blocking, 2nd is a CB switching off when the most energetic striker in the league is stalking him.

Not sure he done much wrong fans getting on his case first half for no reason imo.

GreenCastle
24-08-2024, 04:42 PM
Another game and some more dodgy moments.

Gives me zero confidence as a fan so can’t imagine what the players in front of him feel.

The only positive is we have a week to add a new keeper or this thread will be posted nearly every week with moments.

GreenCastle
24-08-2024, 04:42 PM
Not sure he done much wrong fans getting on his case first half for no reason imo.

Slow build up and some strange passing choices.

Hibee Mac
24-08-2024, 04:43 PM
Your goalkeeper has to make saves, this guy only saves shots you'd expect keepers to save 9 or 10 times out of 10.

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overdrive
24-08-2024, 04:44 PM
I genuinely wonder if him being left footed is causing some of the issues with distribution and general ease when knocking it back to him. We don't seem to have got to grips with that at all.

I'd need to see the second goal again but I'm laying that on the defence today. First is a shocker of a clearance then pathetic attempts at tackling and blocking, 2nd is a CB switching off when the most energetic striker in the league is stalking him.


Just came on to say exactly that about him being left footed. He panics as well whenever a pass back is made to his right side.

Smartie
24-08-2024, 04:46 PM
He had the odd ropey moment but I don't think he's most culpable there today.

I'd love there to be a silver bullet available where we just got a different goalkeeper and everything got better - but I don't think it does.

The 2 goals were 1 on ones where the goalkeeper isn't favourite and he, his team mates, his manager and we the fans have all been let down by some criminal defending for both goals.

Not much of a robust defence of him because I don't think he's anywhere near good enough for where we want to be but he's not the main reason we didn't win today.

LaMotta
24-08-2024, 04:50 PM
Slow build up and some strange passing choices.


Your goalkeeper has to make saves, this guy only saves shots you'd expect keepers to save 9 or 10 times out of 10.

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:agree::agree:

His pathetic kick out at the end gave them back possession and ultimately they scored.

Can make an occasional save from distance that any keeper should make. But when you seen Murray through on him you knew that was it - like swiss cheese.

Unseen work
24-08-2024, 04:53 PM
The McCowan free kick that hit the post too

It’s like he thought it was wide/he had it covered

JohnM1875
24-08-2024, 04:54 PM
The McCowan free kick that hit the post too

It’s like he thought it was wide/he had it covered

It did go wide, don't think it clipped the post did it? Think he was beaten if it was on target though.

Willis1875
24-08-2024, 04:56 PM
What was he doing in the first half when we were a goal down 🤷*♂️ he had the ball at his feet for what felt like an age and then proceeded to kick it right out of play to a chorus of boos

Unseen work
24-08-2024, 04:56 PM
It did go wide, don't think it clipped the post did it? Think he was beaten if it was on target though.

I thought it clipped the post, seemed to have some amount of whip on it

we are hibs
24-08-2024, 04:58 PM
It definitely hit the post

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RossScott1991
24-08-2024, 05:38 PM
He’s going to do something terrifying in the Edinburgh derby. I can feel it.

Especially Tynie on the tight pitch.

Gives me the fear, it’s not too late to go out get another goalie treat this loan as a trial

The Modfather
24-08-2024, 05:43 PM
He might not cost us many points but I also don’t think he’ll win us many points either.

Cabbage-Patch
24-08-2024, 05:48 PM
Other than his slow and poor distribution at times today I don't think he did much wrong. He went absolutely mental at O'Hora when Dundee thought they had scored thier second. Looked a very awkward conversation. We need to get another keeper in though as he's never a number 1

HIBS NUTS
24-08-2024, 05:50 PM
Unfortunately he looks dreadful, he hesitates on every 50/50 ball, the 2 against Celtic, and the last today.
The third against Celtic was murder.
We need better.

TrinityHFC
24-08-2024, 05:50 PM
Just came on to say exactly that about him being left footed. He panics as well whenever a pass back is made to his right side.

So just the opposite of a keeper that would panic with the ball on their left? It seems an odd thing to be an issue. The team should understand what side to play him the ball.

Bobby's Cinema
24-08-2024, 05:52 PM
You need a goalie that can bail you out when the defence does get breached.

This guy can't make a save. Shot stop from a distance with good sight lines maybe, but nothing instinctive.

Going early with this one - maybe unreasonably early - but this is not a position that has been resolved. We need a new goalie.

overdrive
24-08-2024, 05:54 PM
So just the opposite of a keeper that would panic with the ball on their left? It seems an odd thing to be an issue. The team should understand what side to play him the ball.

It is the panicking when the ball is played near his weaker foot and him being so one footed that’s the issue. Most keepers will be happy to at least punt the ball with their weaker foot if they are under pressure so can’t get it onto their stronger foot. He seems scared to even do that. He seems scared if it even goes near his right foot when not under pressure.

Unseen work
24-08-2024, 05:55 PM
He’s going to do something terrifying in the Edinburgh derby. I can feel it.

Especially Tynie on the tight pitch.

Gives me the fear, it’s not too late to go out get another goalie treat this loan as a trial


There’s nothing surer

It will be a goal kick our his hands where he boots it off Shanklands dome and then it fires into our net

Booked4Being-Ugly
24-08-2024, 06:01 PM
I think he kicked it out the park, handing possession/momentum back to them just before they scored their 2nd.

snedzuk
24-08-2024, 06:55 PM
What was he doing in the first half when we were a goal down 🤷*♂️ he had the ball at his feet for what felt like an age and then proceeded to kick it right out of play to a chorus of boos

Following which Gray gestured to him to play it faster. As for booting it out of the park, nothing mentioned.

Carheenlea
24-08-2024, 07:29 PM
What was he doing in the first half when we were a goal down 🤷*♂️ he had the ball at his feet for what felt like an age and then proceeded to kick it right out of play to a chorus of boos

I think I’ve seen this passage of play many times over the years at Easter Road, from the 80’s to present day :hilarious

B.H.F.C
24-08-2024, 07:35 PM
There are things that annoy me about him, the way he stands on the ball for half an hour at a time. And I thought he was badly at fault for the second as well as the more obvious third last week. But I didn’t think he could have done anything about either today. Murray scores from about six yards out, all the goalie can do there is try and make themselves big and hope it hits them. Sometimes they’ll get lucky and it will, more often than not from that position they won’t. Dont think there is much to criticise today.

Real Emerald
24-08-2024, 07:39 PM
I think he kicked it out the park, handing possession/momentum back to them just before they scored their 2nd.

That’s what started the comedy of errors that followed. He simply has to take more care especially at that time in a game.

Unseen work
24-08-2024, 07:45 PM
https://x.com/scotlandsky/status/1827425644785103064?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

I don’t know if it’s being unbelievably critical or not but he looks slow as anything to come out and narrow the angle here

I try not to bad individual players on here often but I don’t know what it is about Bursik every goal we concede I just seem to think a better goalie either saves it or at least makes the chance harder to score

The first goal is an absolute joke too. Obita, Cadden, O’Hora and Kwon all need to do better

GreenCastle
24-08-2024, 07:47 PM
Just watched the 2nd goal from today..sky sports X can’t link sorry.

Not all his fault due to CB positioning but can his legs be any wider open when Murray shoots the ball.

Make yourself big and legs narrower to avoid the nutmeg.

GreenCastle
24-08-2024, 07:49 PM
https://x.com/scotlandsky/status/1827425644785103064?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

I don’t know if it’s being unbelievably critical or not but he looks slow as anything to come out and narrow the angle here

I try not to bad individual players on here often but I don’t know what it is about Bursik every goal we concede I just seem to think a better goalie either saves it or at least makes the chance harder to score

The first goal is an absolute joke too. Obita, Cadden, O’Hora and Kwon all need to do better

Forst goal looked bad at the time at the stadium and bad in the replay.

We never get tight enough - we allow the cross into the box - we miss the header - Obita does something a u12 should do and clear into middle of the box then after that it’s just poor.

Will we ever keep a clean sheet ?!?!?!

Renfrew_Hibby
24-08-2024, 08:10 PM
He's like a wee boy pretending to be a goalie in the back garden

K-Zazu
24-08-2024, 08:25 PM
Don’t understand this signing, I mean did he even play football last season? Who’s scouted him, seen him play recently?

LaMotta
24-08-2024, 08:28 PM
Just watched the 2nd goal from today..sky sports X can’t link sorry.

Not all his fault due to CB positioning but can his legs be any wider open when Murray shoots the ball.

Make yourself big and legs narrower to avoid the nutmeg.

Swiss cheese

Tyler Durden
24-08-2024, 08:44 PM
https://x.com/scotlandsky/status/1827425644785103064?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

I don’t know if it’s being unbelievably critical or not but he looks slow as anything to come out and narrow the angle here

I try not to bad individual players on here often but I don’t know what it is about Bursik every goal we concede I just seem to think a better goalie either saves it or at least makes the chance harder to score

The first goal is an absolute joke too. Obita, Cadden, O’Hora and Kwon all need to do better

I’ve been doing the same. He should get out much closer to Murray IMO. He just seems to lack conviction in everything he does

.Sean.
24-08-2024, 09:04 PM
Simon Brown-esque.

A goalie is needed this week, as I highly doubt the other one we signed to warm the bench will be any better. Actually frightening someone has seen something in Bursik and thought he was the answer. I’d be tempted to ask Marshall if he’s still got his gloves if we don’t sign another goalie and that’s saying something

H18 SFR
24-08-2024, 09:06 PM
If we are going to persist with a young goalkeeper who is far from ready then at least make it Murray Johnson so it is one of our own players getting the game time and any potential benefit.

ancient hibee
24-08-2024, 09:32 PM
Has no presence ,is easily flustered,allows the ball to pass through the 6 yard box,gives the appearance of not liking to risk physical contact,seems to do no organising of defence ,poor kicker.Demonstrated most of this last week and repeated it today.

TrinityHFC
24-08-2024, 09:55 PM
If we are going to persist with a young goalkeeper who is far from ready then at least make it Murray Johnson so it is one of our own players getting the game time and any potential benefit.

Bursic is 24 and played 50 games in the English Championship. Not really equivalent to Johnson. I know Murray’s family and I think hopefully he will go on to have a good career but I think some have got a bit carried away with some of the earlier hype about him.

He is making mistakes at the level he’s at too. Easy to say he couldn’t be worse but reality is yes he really could be and that wouldn’t help him in the long run.

Criswell
24-08-2024, 10:13 PM
If Hibs want to start winning games and Gray wants to keep his job something needs to be done quickly about our defence and goalkeeper.

Centre Hawf
24-08-2024, 10:16 PM
Bursic is 24 and played 50 games in the English Championship. Not really equivalent to Johnson. I know Murray’s family and I think hopefully he will go on to have a good career but I think some have got a bit carried away with some of the earlier hype about him.

He is making mistakes at the level he’s at too. Easy to say he couldn’t be worse but reality is yes he really could be and that wouldn’t help him in the long run.

Agree with you entirely. MJ is exactly where he needs to be this season and probably is still another season after this away from being ready to deal with coming into a Hibs starting spot. He needs go go away and make mistakes now so he can learn from them. Although despite some of the results he’s getting a good write up by Airdrie fans so fingers crossed for him.

Donegal Hibby
24-08-2024, 10:24 PM
If Hibs want to start winning games and Gray wants to keep his job something needs to be done quickly about our defence and goalkeeper.

Goals we are losing are mainly down to defenders not protecting the keeper enough or making silly mistakes IMO.

green day
24-08-2024, 10:50 PM
The keeper is a huddy. So is the back up keeper we brought in.

Shambolic recruitment yet again.

ChuckNor
25-08-2024, 06:48 AM
Watched the goals back this morning but they don’t tell the full story. If he had done the basics at the end, aka not boot a goal kick out for a throw in and hand possession in a dangerous area back to Dundee, we win 2-1.

He is not good enough. Why we signed the two goalies I’ll never know. Shambolic recruitment from a shambolic summer. Malky, you’re in trouble already.

matty_f
25-08-2024, 07:19 AM
I don’t think you can pin the goals on Bursik yesterday, and there were folk around us on his case for taking too long on the ball before he’d even got it in his hands at one point.

I don’t see that he did much wrong yesterday, some poor distribution but that’s the case with practically every keeper in the league, if we’re expecting a keeper to find his man with a long ball every time we’re going to be disappointed.

He did manage to set players away with a good kick out a couple of times, iirc.

I don’t think he exudes confidence but that comes with games, but I never left the ground yesterday thinking a different keeper would have made a difference.

JimBHibees
25-08-2024, 07:21 AM
I don’t think you can pin the goals on Bursik yesterday, and there were folk around us on his case for taking too long on the ball before he’d even got it in his hands at one point.

I don’t see that he did much wrong yesterday, some poor distribution but that’s the case with practically every keeper in the league, if we’re expecting a keeper to find his man with a long ball every time we’re going to be disappointed.

He did manage to set players away with a good kick out a couple of times, iirc.

I don’t think he exudes confidence but that comes with games, but I never left the ground yesterday thinking a different keeper would have made a difference.

My thoughts exactly. Could do without fans getting on his case for delaying a kick out when nothing was on

green day
25-08-2024, 07:33 AM
My thoughts exactly. Could do without fans getting on his case for delaying a kick out when nothing was on

The one he topped that skittered out to The East typified his all round game.

I'm struggling to think of any basics that he performs competently.

Docker
25-08-2024, 07:45 AM
I don’t think you can pin the goals on Bursik yesterday, and there were folk around us on his case for taking too long on the ball before he’d even got it in his hands at one point.

I don’t see that he did much wrong yesterday, some poor distribution but that’s the case with practically every keeper in the league, if we’re expecting a keeper to find his man with a long ball every time we’re going to be disappointed.

He did manage to set players away with a good kick out a couple of times, iirc.

I don’t think he exudes confidence but that comes with games, but I never left the ground yesterday thinking a different keeper would have made a difference.

I actually think that’s the problem!!!!……you’re correct in stating you cannot pin the goals on him yesterday but the point is, particularly with the second goal, you would hope your goalie saves some of these types of chances and wins you the game. This guy, so far, does not look like making saves in those type of situations.

JimBHibees
25-08-2024, 07:47 AM
I actually think that’s the problem!!!!……you’re correct in stating you cannot pin the goals on him yesterday but the point is, particularly with the second goal, you would hope your goalie saves some of these types of chances and wins you the game. This guy, so far, does not look like making saves in those type of situations.

The ball went through his legs from 6 yards or so had no chance imo

expresso
25-08-2024, 07:48 AM
He’s a significant downgrade on Marshall and that’s damning given Marshall had some dire moments with us

JimBHibees
25-08-2024, 07:48 AM
The one he topped that skittered out to The East typified his all round game.

I'm struggling to think of any basics that he performs competently.

Yes that was poor particularly at that time in the game

Greenio
25-08-2024, 07:51 AM
The one he topped that skittered out to The East typified his all round game.

I'm struggling to think of any basics that he performs competently.

For whatever reason, hes become the boo boys, boo boy.

As always, the mob rule blame game needs a central focus cos no one actually has answers, just axes to burn.

Hes no where near a big an issue as folk are trying to make out and the pressure its piling on him is only going yo mdke him worse.

Hes only an issue cos folk are looking for one

Docker
25-08-2024, 07:54 AM
The ball went through his legs from 6 yards or so had no chance imo

I guess the law of probability suggest he will save us one of these times…….with Bursic we are relying on probability more than ability.

matty_f
25-08-2024, 07:57 AM
I guess the law of probability suggest he will save us one of these times…….with Bursic we are relying on probability more than ability.

He saved one at the near post before they got their equaliser. He didn’t have much else to do in the game, save wise.

3pm
25-08-2024, 08:00 AM
He saved one at the near post before they got their equaliser. He didn’t have much else to do in the game, save wise.

He bailed his captain out from what I saw on the highlights.

Docker
25-08-2024, 08:05 AM
He saved one at the near post before they got their equaliser. He didn’t have much else to do in the game, save wise.

He did make that save at the near post, but I would have expected every single goalkeeper on our books from Under 15’s upwards to save that one. I’m looking for our goalie to make saves from opportunities where the other team really should score. Just doesn't look any where near making game changing saves.

Callum_62
25-08-2024, 08:05 AM
Watched the goals back this morning but they don’t tell the full story. If he had done the basics at the end, aka not boot a goal kick out for a throw in and hand possession in a dangerous area back to Dundee, we win 2-1.

He is not good enough. Why we signed the two goalies I’ll never know. Shambolic recruitment from a shambolic summer. Malky, you’re in trouble already.He kicked the ball out of play right on the half way line

It should not have any direct bearing on the goal

What it does do though is increase some anxiousness/ panic - particularly in the stand

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JimBHibees
25-08-2024, 08:07 AM
He did make that save at the near post, but I would have expected every single goalkeeper on our books from Under 15’s upwards to save that one. I’m looking for our goalie to make saves from opportunities where the other team really should score. Just doesn't look any where near making game changing saves.

Agree about the near post save surely difficult to make that call re game changing saves after so few games

coldingham hibs
25-08-2024, 08:08 AM
Reminds me of Matt Macey.

Bobby's Cinema
25-08-2024, 08:13 AM
He’s going to do something terrifying in the Edinburgh derby. I can feel it.

Especially Tynie on the tight pitch.

Gives me the fear, it’s not too late to go out get another goalie treat this loan as a trial
Problem we've got is we've also signed a second goalkeeper who appears to have been signed absolutely as a second goalkeeper and I picked up the impression from somewhere that he is happy to be just that.

And I said the same thing about him watching him for 45mins at Kelty.

We absolutely need to go out and make a key signing for this position. Almost as a number one priority now.

Hibee Mac
25-08-2024, 08:24 AM
For whatever reason, hes become the boo boys, boo boy.

As always, the mob rule blame game needs a central focus cos no one actually has answers, just axes to burn.

Hes no where near a big an issue as folk are trying to make out and the pressure its piling on him is only going yo mdke him worse.

Hes only an issue cos folk are looking for oneI understand the general point you're making and I'd definitely agree with you when it comes to the criticism of some other players.

However in this specific scenario he's just not good enough and folk are calling him out for it.

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Smartie
25-08-2024, 08:35 AM
The one he topped that skittered out to The East typified his all round game.

I'm struggling to think of any basics that he performs competently.

His handling looks very reliable. Basketball player like.

The rest of his game looks suspect tbh, especially his long kicking. I thought there was scope for some good old route one “big man, little man” long ball stuff when Dundee pushed right up and prevented us playing out from the back. Myko is a big presence and I thought there was an opportunity to feed off second balls after hitting it to him and letting him scrap it out. Whenever Bursik went long it seemed to go nowhere near our most obvious target man and nearly always ended up coming straight back at us.

GreenCastle
25-08-2024, 08:41 AM
For whatever reason, hes become the boo boys, boo boy.

As always, the mob rule blame game needs a central focus cos no one actually has answers, just axes to burn.

Hes no where near a big an issue as folk are trying to make out and the pressure its piling on him is only going yo mdke him worse.

Hes only an issue cos folk are looking for one

He’s not become a boo boy.

He’s made some shocking decisions and even yesterday he made some odd decisions.

Once during the game Boyle shields ball out of play and Dundee left back is with him. There is a massive space where the left back was but he decides to fire the ball out to Rudi with a 3v1 - Rudi does well but it’s small moments like that it has people questioning his decision making process.

He's now played 7 games and can’t think of a single save where I thought that’s a great save.

The one yesterday at front post was a complete basic save and like someone else said a u15 keeper could save that as the angle was so tight.

If he can’t handle the pressure of Dundee at home winning 2-1 by kicking the back straight out of play and giving ball back to Dundee then we have very little chance of progressing. A decent kick - keep the ball in Dundee half and outcome could be different. Small moments but also having large repercussions.

Hibs Go Bragh
25-08-2024, 09:11 AM
Didn’t the Aberdeen fans warn us about this? Maybe it’s not the player but the coach instead?

Nicho87
25-08-2024, 09:12 AM
Ii noticed on match day one Craig Samson pinging the goalies ears if they dropped a clanger


Looked all very jovial.

Would rather they didn’t do it again so they didn’t get the ear pinging treatment.

1875M
25-08-2024, 09:14 AM
Not convinced. Zero presence at all. Also looks the like smallest keeper I’ve seen for Hibs in a while.

Unseen work
25-08-2024, 09:24 AM
Ii noticed on match day one Craig Samson pinging the goalies ears if they dropped a clanger


Looked all very jovial.

Would rather they didn’t do it again so they didn’t get the ear pinging treatment.

No wonder Bursik is playing rubbish, his ears must be in agony!

He's here!
25-08-2024, 09:24 AM
Not convinced. Zero presence at all. Also looks the like smallest keeper I’ve seen for Hibs in a while.

He's apparently 6ft 2in so not small yet he almost appears to shrink in on himself rather than make himself bigger when trying to face down an opposition player.

raeburnhibs
25-08-2024, 09:26 AM
I don't think we will sign another goalkeeper. The really questionable decision was the backup keeper; someone should have been signed who is able to put reasonable pressure on the one in the team; so far, Bursic doesn't look amazing. However Bournemouth have 4 first team goalkeepers including Will Dennis and the guy signed from Auckland?

BILLYHIBS
25-08-2024, 09:46 AM
Reminds me of Oxley every decent shot on target seems to go right through him

Had one decent save yesterday second half near post but followed that up by bizarrely running up the left wing to launch the ball up the park and allowing the delighted Simon Murray to nutmeg him after getting in front of O’Hora

blackpoolhibs
25-08-2024, 09:51 AM
He makes me nervous, God knows what the defenders feel like if that's how I feel with him.

Trinity Hibee
25-08-2024, 09:54 AM
Watching the highlight, the free kick mccowan hits the post with, he hasn’t set his wall up at all to cover a left footer hitting into that corner. Worrying

Col2
25-08-2024, 09:56 AM
He must be brilliant in training as he rarely saves anything on target.

Reminds me of that guy who was kn loan at Hearts from Man Utd who seem to dive the opposite way when a shot came at him.

raeburnhibs
25-08-2024, 10:10 AM
Watching the highlight, the free kick mccowan hits the post with, he hasn’t set his wall up at all to cover a left footer hitting into that corner. Worrying

He did, he absolutely set the wall up on his right and partly offered that side, as he covered the other side, very obvious from our angle in the east. That's why people score free kicks, sometimes they just hit a peach and the wall can't do anything about it

Smartie
25-08-2024, 10:15 AM
He did, he absolutely set the wall up on his right and partly offered that side, as he covered the other side, very obvious from our angle in the east. That's why people score free kicks, sometimes they just hit a peach and the wall can't do anything about it

I didn’t think there was any fault from Bursik there either. McCowan probably got it about as close as he could and didn’t score. The wall and the Gk did their job.

Tyler Durden
25-08-2024, 10:27 AM
For whatever reason, hes become the boo boys, boo boy.

As always, the mob rule blame game needs a central focus cos no one actually has answers, just axes to burn.

Hes no where near a big an issue as folk are trying to make out and the pressure its piling on him is only going yo mdke him worse.

Hes only an issue cos folk are looking for one

Nah. He’s been poor and people are understandably concerned.

The goal kicks / playing out seems to be poor across the whole team though. They just seem totally unclear on what the plan is but Bursik isn’t helping with his indecision

Hibstrooper
25-08-2024, 10:44 AM
Problem we've got is we've also signed a second goalkeeper who appears to have been signed absolutely as a second goalkeeper and I picked up the impression from somewhere that he is happy to be just that.

And I said the same thing about him watching him for 45mins at Kelty.

We absolutely need to go out and make a key signing for this position. Almost as a number one priority now.

This is the biggest issue for me. We speak about competition for places pushing players on but it looks as if Smith himself knows he isn’t good enough and just happy to be here as backup. Almost like we’ve targeted him because he’s a ‘good guy’ who won’t kick up a fuss.

An genuine challenger to #1 spot is a must for me

Centre Hawf
25-08-2024, 10:46 AM
For whatever reason, hes become the boo boys, boo boy.

As always, the mob rule blame game needs a central focus cos no one actually has answers, just axes to burn.

Hes no where near a big an issue as folk are trying to make out and the pressure its piling on him is only going yo mdke him worse.

Hes only an issue cos folk are looking for one

He’s an issue because he’s not a good goalkeeper for this level and for our current situation. But I look forward to it being the fans fault when he drops one at Shanklands feet in 2 months because we weren’t nicer to him about all the other times he makes mistakes.

Unseen work
25-08-2024, 10:51 AM
For whatever reason, hes become the boo boys, boo boy.

As always, the mob rule blame game needs a central focus cos no one actually has answers, just axes to burn.

Hes no where near a big an issue as folk are trying to make out and the pressure its piling on him is only going yo mdke him worse.

Hes only an issue cos folk are looking for one

“For whatever reason”

People haven’t just woke up and decided Bursik is getting stick

It’s because there’s about 4 games in a row he’s done poor or should have done better for a goal or in the lead up to it

He’s making far too many mistakes so far

HendoDelivered
25-08-2024, 11:02 AM
I might be being harsh here, but I’m getting Mark Birighitti vibes from him.

we are hibs
25-08-2024, 11:16 AM
One of the few times he actually distributed the ball early (2nd half) Molotnikov ended up doing really well and we got a corner out it.


I remember early days under Johnson, Marshalls distribution was really good and a few times he was pinging them out to the forward players and we were breaking quickly. Then all of a sudden it stopped.

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Callum_62
25-08-2024, 11:18 AM
One of the few times he actually distributed the ball early (2nd half) Molotnikov ended up doing really well and we got a corner out it.


I remember early days under Johnson, Marshalls distribution was really good and a few times he was pinging them out to the forward players and we were breaking quickly. Then all of a sudden it stopped.

Sent from my SM-A405FN using TapatalkBursik actually set up a number of counter attacks from an early long kick from hands

Think it was a few times 2nd half

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EGL2000
25-08-2024, 11:20 AM
Turns out the Stoke fans seemed to be spot on. All said he doesn't actually make any saves. In the games he's played there's not been one save he's made yet that wasn't just routine straight at him.

Smartie
25-08-2024, 11:21 AM
Bursik actually set up a number of counter attacks from an early long kick from hands

Think it was a few times 2nd half

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In fairness to him, he did.

His kicking off the deck, under no pressure, after taking time, was largely dreadful throughout. Overhit, underhit, sclaffed - the lot.

BILLYHIBS
25-08-2024, 11:29 AM
In fairness to him, he did.

His kicking off the deck, under no pressure, after taking time, was largely dreadful throughout. Overhit, underhit, sclaffed - the lot.

Out the park on one occasion first half

GreenCastle
25-08-2024, 11:34 AM
This is the biggest issue for me. We speak about competition for places pushing players on but it looks as if Smith himself knows he isn’t good enough and just happy to be here as backup. Almost like we’ve targeted him because he’s a ‘good guy’ who won’t kick up a fuss.

An genuine challenger to #1 spot is a must for me

Brilliant point - this was Grays 1st signing too!

I’m not impressed with our goalkeeping set up at all - crap coach and poor recruitment.

He's here!
25-08-2024, 11:44 AM
This is the biggest issue for me. We speak about competition for places pushing players on but it looks as if Smith himself knows he isn’t good enough and just happy to be here as backup. Almost like we’ve targeted him because he’s a ‘good guy’ who won’t kick up a fuss.

An genuine challenger to #1 spot is a must for me

That's surely nonsense about Smith? He was clearly an ambitious young keeper at Forest and you'd imagine he'd be keen to get a fresh start to kick-start his career after years of loan moves.

The only keeper I can recall where there was a sense he'd opted for a comfort zone was Theo Snelders joining Rangers as back-up. I think his confidence was shot at that time as he'd previously been a great player for Aberdeen.

NAE NOOKIE
25-08-2024, 11:55 AM
You can only call it as you see it. I've been at every home game so far this season and watched the Kelty and Celtic away games on Premier ..... This guy just doesn't give you any confidence and has yet to make a save ( that I can recall ) that in any way could be described as above average.

Yes our defence was to blame for both goals yesterday, but on both occasions Bursic wasn't much of an obstacle ..... To be fair he had little chance with the first one, but he did what I ( possible the worst keeper in history as my mates will tell you ) used to do ... he made up his mind that the shot was going to his far left before Tiffony hit it and launched himself in that direction, only for the shot to end up going over his body into the net ... he practlcally dived past it.

With the second O'Hora, for all his culpability, at least had Murray under pressure keeping him at an angle which meant he had very little to aim at ... the only way he was going to score was if the keeper left his legs open leaving a gap you could drive a bus through, and that's exactly what Bursic did.

Sorry, but this guy gives me the fear and as things stand I don't think letting the window run out without looking for a new keeper to at least put pressure on him would be a good idea.

marinello59
25-08-2024, 11:58 AM
You can only call it as you see it. I've been at every home game so far this season and watched the Kelty and Celtic away games on Premier ..... This guy just doesn't give you any confidence and has yet to make a save ( that I can recall ) that in any way could be described as above average.

Yes our defence was to blame for both goals yesterday, but on both occasions Bursic wasn't much of an obstacle ..... To be fair he had little chance with the first one, but he did what I ( possible the worst keeper in history as my mates will tell you ) used to do ... he made up his mind that the shot was going to his far left before Tiffony hit it and launched himself in that direction, only for the shot to end up going over his body into the net ... he practlcally dived past it.

With the second O'Hora, for all his culpability, at least had Murray under pressure keeping him at an angle which meant he had very little to aim at ... the only way he was going to score was if the keeper left his legs open leaving a gap you could drive a bus through, and that's exactly what Bursic did.

Sorry, but this guy gives me the fear and as things stand I don't think letting the window run out without looking for a new keeper to at least put pressure on him would be a good idea.

It was Smith in goals when we played Kelty.

green day
25-08-2024, 12:29 PM
St Mirren keeper just made what I would call a couple of decent saves....... without being out of this world.

But if Bursik was in goal I would have expected one to fly past him.

All we want at this point is competence, which is pretty sad.

Hibiza
25-08-2024, 12:31 PM
“For whatever reason”

People haven’t just woke up and decided Bursik is getting stick

It’s because there’s about 4 games in a row he’s done poor or should have done better for a goal or in the lead up to it

He’s making far too many mistakes so far

Spot on.

Hibstrooper
25-08-2024, 01:08 PM
That's surely nonsense about Smith? He was clearly an ambitious young keeper at Forest and you'd imagine he'd be keen to get a fresh start to kick-start his career after years of loan moves.

The only keeper I can recall where there was a sense he'd opted for a comfort zone was Theo Snelders joining Rangers as back-up. I think his confidence was shot at that time as he'd previously been a great player for Aberdeen.

Listen to his interview from when he joined. It’s very apparent he’s here to sit on the bench and if by any chance he does get a chance that’s a bonus rather than him being here to claim the #1 spot.

If we don’t sign another keeper then Bursic will be it until at least January regardless of how he is performing. I also recall Stoke fans saying that once his confidence was gone he struggled to recover.

If our goalie isn’t cutting it then it puts extra pressure on our already fragile defence and a good chance we will continue to concede cheap goals. This is why genuine competition for Bursic is a must for me, he may come good but at the moment is looking shaky and we’ve put all our chips in him

He's here!
25-08-2024, 01:12 PM
Listen to his interview from when he joined. It’s very apparent he’s here to sit on the bench and if by any chance he does get a chance that’s a bonus rather than him being here to claim the #1 spot.

If we don’t sign another keeper then Bursic will be it until at least January regardless of how he is performing. I also recall Stoke fans saying that once his confidence was gone he struggled to recover.

If our goalie isn’t cutting it then it puts extra pressure on our already fragile defence and a good chance we will continue to concede cheap goals. This is why genuine competition for Bursic is a must for me, he may come good but at the moment is looking shaky and we’ve put all our chips in him

I haven't seen that interview but if any player the club are interested in signing implies that the height of his ambition is to sit on the bench we surely shouldn't be signing them.

eastmainsmsh
25-08-2024, 01:13 PM
St Mirren keeper just made what I would call a couple of decent saves....... without being out of this world.

But if Bursik was in goal I would have expected one to fly past him.

All we want at this point is competence, which is pretty sad.

Get Trevor Carson from Dundee

Callum_62
25-08-2024, 01:17 PM
Watching MotD from last night

Reckon we should go all out to get Muric or Pickford

[emoji51][emoji50]

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Pretty Boy
25-08-2024, 01:30 PM
I haven't seen that interview but if any player the club are interested in signing implies that the height of his ambition is to sit on the bench we surely shouldn't be signing them.

I think it depends.

There are plenty keepers who have made a decent living out of being a career back up. Someone like Ortega knows he is never going to displace Ederson at Man City. At 31 he could be playing week in week out in the 2nd tier in Germany as he has for much of his career or he could he playing domestic cup games for City and likely earning a decent wedge for doing so. The flip side is someone like Kelleher at Liverpool who is now desperate to play, knows he won't displace Allison so is looking to move on.

Ultimately the goalkeeper is the one position where you can't play more than one or change the shape to get both in the team. There are legions of guys who have found their place as a career back up and are quite happy to be that. Steve Harper is arguably the best example. 280 games in a career that spanned 23 years, he only played more than 20 games in 3 seasons in that time and only made double figures 11 times. I have no idea if he ever wanted to play more games but the fact the kept signing new contracts when he was behind the likes of Pavel Srnicek and Shay Given suggests not.

A Hi-Bee
25-08-2024, 02:05 PM
This guy is just not good enough for Hibs, we need a good goalkeeper as a starting point before we can fix any defence and ours still needs fixing.
It's like the blind leading the blind at Easter Road.

Unseen work
01-09-2024, 09:06 PM
I’ve probably been one of the critical of Bursik this season however I think it’s important to recognise when he does well.

I think today is one of those days. He never had any difficult saves to make, however his handling and anticipation of balls through was good imo.

I know some will moan about his kicking going out of play, however when you’re asked to clip the ball to Miller on the touchline you’re going to get it wrong from time to time

IberianHibernian
01-09-2024, 09:17 PM
I’ve probably been one of the critical of Bursik this season however I think it’s important to recognise when he does well.

I think today is one of those days. He never had any difficult saves to make, however his handling and anticipation of balls through was good imo.

I know some will moan about his kicking going out of play, however when you’re asked to clip the ball to Miller on the touchline you’re going to get it wrong from time to timeGood points . Like the way he seems to keep calm and he`ll know he`s been criticised for mistakes in previous games . Watching him I always think he`s like a good second goalie to an excellent first choice . Maybe that`ll be the case if we sign a top keeper in winter window .

HendoDelivered
01-09-2024, 10:03 PM
I’ve probably been one of the critical of Bursik this season however I think it’s important to recognise when he does well.

I think today is one of those days. He never had any difficult saves to make, however his handling and anticipation of balls through was good imo.

I know some will moan about his kicking going out of play, however when you’re asked to clip the ball to Miller on the touchline you’re going to get it wrong from time to time

Here, here. Well said UW. Agreed!

Cooshed Kid
02-09-2024, 02:45 AM
Sick and tired of Adam calling him Burs-itch on HibsTV. It is Burs-ick! Show some respect by pronouncing his name properly. It has only 2 syllables.

JimBHibees
02-09-2024, 06:34 AM
Sick and tired of Adam calling him Burs-itch on HibsTV. It is Burs-ick! Show some respect by pronouncing his name properly. It has only 2 syllables.

Maybe he asked Jo how his name is pronounced

JimBHibees
02-09-2024, 06:36 AM
I’ve probably been one of the critical of Bursik this season however I think it’s important to recognise when he does well.

I think today is one of those days. He never had any difficult saves to make, however his handling and anticipation of balls through was good imo.

I know some will moan about his kicking going out of play, however when you’re asked to clip the ball to Miller on the touchline you’re going to get it wrong from time to time

Like the way he anticipates and collects crosses takes a lot of weight off the defence. They just need to get used to each others game.

Cooshed Kid
02-09-2024, 06:45 AM
Maybe he asked Jo how his name is pronounced

No, he didn’t. “K” is pronounced the same way in Czech as in English.

JimBHibees
02-09-2024, 06:47 AM
No, he didn’t. “K” is pronounced the same way in Czech as in English.

Fair enough just assume the guy who does the club interviews would ask players how to pronounce names. Obviously not

blackpoolhibs
02-09-2024, 06:48 AM
Much better from him and the defenders yesterday, bar the obvious.

HIBS NUTS
02-09-2024, 06:49 AM
In general he was quite comfortable yesterday .
His handling of crosses and secure catching , is miles better than marshal.
However I’m still to see him make many good saves.
The fury is still out.

hibsbollah
02-09-2024, 06:53 AM
In general he was quite comfortable yesterday .
His handling of crosses and secure catching , is miles better than marshal.
However I’m still to see him make many good saves.
The fury is still out.

His dealing with the crossed ball seems to be his strength. Far less important skill than it used to be but still a nice to have.

ruthven_raiders
02-09-2024, 07:00 AM
His dealing with the crossed ball seems to be his strength. Far less important skill than it used to be but still a nice to have.

Shot stopping is instinctive, so not sure that will improve or whether he lost confidence after injuries etc.

Unseen work
02-09-2024, 07:11 AM
Sick and tired of Adam calling him Burs-itch on HibsTV. It is Burs-ick! Show some respect by pronouncing his name properly. It has only 2 syllables.

Tbf maybe that is how it’s pronounced? I remember people moaning about how Le Fondre was pronounced only for ALF to confirm the commentator was saying it right and everyone else was wrong 🤣

Cooshed Kid
02-09-2024, 07:21 AM
Fair enough just assume the guy who does the club interviews would ask players how to pronounce names. Obviously not

I don’t think so. The “tch” sound in Czech as in Polish is “cz” hence Czech, not Tchech.. This thread was started by a mis-spelling of Bursik as Bursic and now people think it’s pronounced like Modric, which it isn’t. It would need to be Bursicz for that to be true. Remember the name Emil Zatopek? Not pronounced as Zatopetch.

But if Joe says otherwise then I’ll admit my error and sit facing the wall for the rest of the day. He’s probably so used to mispronunciation he doesn’t care. He’s probably content with being called anything which isn’t abusive.

BILLYHIBS
02-09-2024, 07:59 AM
Looked comfortable yesterday but never really tested

Like how he confidently comes for the ball and claims it miles better than Marsh

Hate his kicking especially out of play

Feel that he should stay big and try and stay on his feet more and narrow the angle before committing -Marsh was good at that - does this infuriating low level dive thing making him small and anything on target at a decent height invariably ends up in the net ( Tiffoney)

Said to my mate yesterday that appearance wise he reminded me of Olly The Goalie one for older posters

SHODAN
02-09-2024, 08:20 AM
Can an admin change the title of the thread to Bursik? If you're going to slate him you can at least spell his name right.

sauzee1989
03-09-2024, 04:57 AM
His positioning for vassel first sitter was so poor imo yet it helped save the shot 😂

expresso
03-09-2024, 09:45 AM
Did anyone think he was ever going to save the penalty?

Cooshed Kid
03-09-2024, 09:52 AM
Did anyone think he was ever going to save the penalty?

No, but be fair, he didn't do badly otherwise, although he was lucky with Vassell's miss. I never expect a Hibs' keeper to save a penalty. It's great when they do but the odds are against them. Marshall even got blamed for letting the ball go under him when it looked easier to make the save. If his confidence is high then maybe his penalty-saving luck will improve.

MWHIBBIES
03-09-2024, 09:59 AM
Did anyone think he was ever going to save the penalty?

Pretty much never think a keeper is going to save a penalty. Odds are strongly against them.

JimBHibees
03-09-2024, 10:12 AM
His positioning for vassel first sitter was so poor imo yet it helped save the shot 😂

Wow so we are blaming him for that laughable nothing wrong with his position. Flick on and Newell losing his man

Donegal Hibby
03-09-2024, 10:32 AM
His positioning for vassel first sitter was so poor imo yet it helped save the shot 😂


Did anyone think he was ever going to save the penalty?

And so it starts on another player instead of giving him a chance 😟

Viva_Palmeiras
03-09-2024, 09:55 PM
Tbf maybe that is how it’s pronounced? I remember people moaning about how Le Fondre was pronounced only for ALF to confirm the commentator was saying it right and everyone else was wrong 🤣

don’t get me started on Jaír… folks opted for Tavares and only lately pronounced his name correctly. Is he’s offski

expresso
04-09-2024, 10:36 AM
And so it starts on another player instead of giving him a chance 😟

He’s weak, timid & hopeless

JimBHibees
04-09-2024, 11:04 AM
He’s weak, timid & hopeless

😄

Saint Hibee
04-09-2024, 11:06 AM
It's his kicks constantly going straight out of play that worries me. I get that this will happen once in a while, but with Bursik it seems to happen several times every game.

Callum_62
04-09-2024, 11:49 AM
It's his kicks constantly going straight out of play that worries me. I get that this will happen once in a while, but with Bursik it seems to happen several times every game.Only cause our tactic is punt the ball to Miller right on the touchline

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BILLYHIBS
04-09-2024, 12:32 PM
don’t get me started on Jaír… folks opted for Tavares and only lately pronounced his name correctly. Is he’s offski

Motherwell on loan

Good luck to the boy

Cooshed Kid
04-09-2024, 01:37 PM
Only cause our tactic is punt the ball to Miller right on the touchline

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We have not been that lucky with keepers ability to pass the ball in recent years. Bogdan was okay with the ball at his feet as I recall. Marciano had limitations - who else recalls the pass to Ryan Kent on the 18 yard line by Rocky while he was standing to the left of the goal, leaving it completely open? I don't recall Macey having any particular problem but that may be my faulty memory. Marshall started off really well - I thought he was magnificent at first with his distribution - and then it all went horribly wrong. Other teams' keepers, past and present, seem equally limited. It seems to be a deficiency in their early training. I don't think it's a rod to beat Bursik with. They're mostly useless these days. They need to be taught by the likes of Roughie when they're juniors.

BILLYHIBS
04-09-2024, 02:03 PM
We have not been that lucky with keepers ability to pass the ball in recent years. Bogdan was okay with the ball at his feet as I recall. Marciano had limitations - who else recalls the pass to Ryan Kent on the 18 yard line by Rocky while he was standing to the left of the goal, leaving it completely open? I don't recall Macey having any particular problem but that may be my faulty memory. Marshall started off really well - I thought he was magnificent at first with his distribution - and then it all went horribly wrong. Other teams' keepers, past and present, seem equally limited. It seems to be a deficiency in their early training. I don't think it's a rod to beat Bursik with. They're mostly useless these days. They need to be taught by the likes of Roughie when they're juniors.

Macey’s problem was he would kick the ball up the park hand to foot launch it 100 yards up in the air and it would actually only travel about 40 yards IIRC

Goram was decent think he had ambitions to be an outfield player he would send the ball hand to foot straight to a Hibs player standing 60 yards away perfect eye to ball coordination

Remember that one with Rocky dearie me !

Jim Leighton was an outstanding keeper but would be the first to admit he had limitations with the ball at his feet especially with changes to the pass back rule

Unseen work
14-09-2024, 07:44 PM
Never had a huge amount to do today but what he did he done well.

Main reason I’m commenting today is he deserves a well done for when Kimpionka was getting riled up near the end of the game and he waves and shouted bye at him.

Appreciate the level of s***housery

HIBS NUTS
14-09-2024, 08:02 PM
I thought he was decent today, and generally is alright with cross balls.

TrinityHFC
14-09-2024, 08:06 PM
Written off way too quickly. Seems a calm, confident guy and I think he will get better as we go on.

whiskyhibby
14-09-2024, 08:08 PM
I thought he was decent today, and generally is alright with cross balls.

Completely agree

JimBHibees
14-09-2024, 09:03 PM
I like him thought he was good today. The lunatic up front for them caught him late near the end before he lunged in on Obita.

matty_f
14-09-2024, 09:22 PM
Written off way too quickly. Seems a calm, confident guy and I think he will get better as we go on.

Agreed.

I think his decision making with high balls is pretty good, he catches when he can but isn’t afraid to punch the ball off the catch isn’t on.

He was out smart to someone’s feet in the first half where a bit of indecision might have otherwise cost us. No complaints from me today.

whiskyhibby
14-09-2024, 09:35 PM
I like him thought he was good today. The lunatic up front for them caught him late near the end before he lunged in on Obita.

Agree the SJ #29 looked like he had been sniffing the nose candy, completely off his nut…….

EdinMike
15-09-2024, 11:52 AM
I was right in line with the challenge on himself, and his reaction made me chuckle. His first half punch clearance made me think he had been working on his box dominance… if that’s even a thing !

IanM
29-09-2024, 01:16 PM
Well done

blackpoolhibs
29-09-2024, 01:17 PM
Well done
:agree::top marks

LunasBoots
29-09-2024, 01:18 PM
With more match time he's impressed me more, won me over

EdinMike
29-09-2024, 01:19 PM
Grows with every game !

kentao
29-09-2024, 01:21 PM
Very impressed with him when it comes to dealing with crossed balls claimed everything today with safe hands.

A wonder save from dessers header he had no right in getting.

A lot better distribution.

Wheat Hound
29-09-2024, 01:21 PM
Didn't put a foot wrong today and a great save from Dessers. Credit to him and hope he continues to improve

Centre Hawf
29-09-2024, 01:28 PM
Slated him badly at times this season, but today he pulled of a couple really good stops. One probably close to save of the season as well. Keep it up and i'll gladly eat my words.

Heisenberg
29-09-2024, 01:29 PM
He looks a lot more comfortable now as does big Marv. Hope it continues

Cooshed Kid
29-09-2024, 01:33 PM
A fantastic performance by JB today, in probably the most hostile environment, and a wonder save. Well done!

And credit to the defence in general, including the midfield. Yes, Miller needs to spend more time on his feet and both he and Obita make some daft decisions but overall the defence was a force to be reckoned with and not a rabble to be to toyed with and that's a huge improvement. A keeper with confidence, who has the trust of his teammates, is a significant factor.

007
29-09-2024, 01:35 PM
Great save to keep us in it and had no chance at the goal.

sleeping giant
29-09-2024, 01:36 PM
He's establishing himself pretty well after a shaky start.

Crab apple
29-09-2024, 01:37 PM
Well done today. Hopefully he pushes on from here.

Northernhibee
29-09-2024, 01:39 PM
Credit to O’Hora too. He was very good.

hibee-boys
29-09-2024, 02:01 PM
Similar to Big Marv, difficult start to his Hibs career but delivering consistent performances now. Almost as if players need time to settle in to a new club🤔

Docker
29-09-2024, 02:19 PM
He did well today with everything he had to do - no chance with the goal and obviously a fantastic save.
When was the last time a Hibs goalie had as quiet an afternoon playing at Ibrox???

TrinityHFC
29-09-2024, 02:32 PM
Similar to Big Marv, difficult start to his Hibs career but delivering consistent performances now. Almost as if players need time to settle in to a new club🤔

Who’d have thought eh? People genuinely wanted his loan cancelled and the centre halfs replaced.

Cabbage-Patch
29-09-2024, 02:43 PM
Very assured handling today. Commanded his box well. He also no longer looks petrified when a ball is played back to him under pressure. Long may it continue

ancient hibee
29-09-2024, 02:59 PM
Very good today.Glad to see it as I thought he was going to be a real weak link.

Eyrie
29-09-2024, 03:25 PM
We won't see a better save in Scottish football this season than when he denied Dessers.

JohnM1875
29-09-2024, 03:28 PM
Starting to look a good transfer. That save was genuinely world class. Commands his box well and comes for crosses. Generally good with the bell at feet and looks to get play started.

I like him.

1van Sprou7e
29-09-2024, 05:15 PM
Had a good game

Just me that thought the save was not that impressive though? I thought it was more just recovering from weird footwork 🤷*♂️

degenerated
29-09-2024, 05:34 PM
Had a good game

Just me that thought the save was not that impressive though? I thought it was more just recovering from weird footwork [emoji1745]*[emoji3603]Probably

The Hibee Harp
30-09-2024, 08:08 AM
I thought he was very good yesterday. Confidently dealt with what Rangers threw at him, made an outstanding save from Dessers and had no chance with Lawrence’s shot.

Unseen work
30-09-2024, 09:27 AM
Had a good game

Just me that thought the save was not that impressive though? I thought it was more just recovering from weird footwork 🤷*♂️

What was wrong with his footwork? Genuine question

Although right at him, I think he done brilliant to react by pushing the ball back out.

If he was flat footed I’m not sure he reacts as well as that or gets a strong enough hand on it

I’m delighted for him, think he needed a save like that

SHODAN
30-09-2024, 09:36 AM
Second best save I've ever seen from a Hibs keeper behind the one against Dundee in the 17-18 season.

Donegal Hibby
30-09-2024, 09:41 AM
I like Bursik , thought his save yesterday was really good and will hopefully do his confidence good . He looks a decent Keeper IMO .

Victor
30-09-2024, 10:04 AM
The other plus point is, he is young and will probably improve with age. Has all the makings of being a decent keeper

Hibernian Verse
30-09-2024, 10:06 AM
Had a good game

Just me that thought the save was not that impressive though? I thought it was more just recovering from weird footwork 🤷*♂️

Sorry that's a terrible take

He's here!
30-09-2024, 10:27 AM
Had a good game

Just me that thought the save was not that impressive though? I thought it was more just recovering from weird footwork 🤷*♂️

I'll be surprised if it's not just you. That was a terrific save.

I was alarmed by the look of the guy in his early games and thought he lacked any sort of presence, but he's proving me wrong and I'm cautiously optimistic he'll be a strong asset.

Wary of cursing him ahead of the derby, but if he can look that assured at Ibrox it bodes well.

LaMotta
30-09-2024, 12:04 PM
I'll be surprised if it's not just you. That was a terrific save.

I was alarmed by the look of the guy in his early games and thought he lacked any sort of presence, but he's proving me wrong and I'm cautiously optimistic he'll be a strong asset.

Wary of cursing him ahead of the derby, but if he can look that assured at Ibrox it bodes well.

:agree: He played very well yesterday, it's what you'd want your keeper to play like. Not getting too excited just yet though, we need him to prove he can consistently play like that.

JimBHibees
30-09-2024, 12:24 PM
Really like how positive he is coming for crosses. Much prefer that than to keepers stay on their line.

Sheffhibee
30-09-2024, 12:31 PM
Seeing quite a few parallels with when we signed Adam Bogdan. Pretty shaky start then reasonable , Rocky got injured and Bogdan was unbelievable.
Lets hope Josef keeps on the same trajectory

Smartie
30-09-2024, 01:10 PM
Really like how positive he is coming for crosses. Much prefer that than to keepers stay on their line.

His handling is top notch.

I was chuffed he made the big save yesterday because something like "he doesn't make saves" can become a thing quite quickly. Well that was a great save in a big game at Ibrox at an important moment.

Hopefully Triantis is ok because after having contributed to the substantial amount of moaning that's gone on about the quality of "our spine" in recent years, I reckon there's a pretty robust spine to our team starting to take shape.

JimBHibees
30-09-2024, 02:09 PM
His handling is top notch.

I was chuffed he made the big save yesterday because something like "he doesn't make saves" can become a thing quite quickly. Well that was a great save in a big game at Ibrox at an important moment.

Hopefully Triantis is ok because after having contributed to the substantial amount of moaning that's gone on about the quality of "our spine" in recent years, I reckon there's a pretty robust spine to our team starting to take shape.

Agree with all that as you say hope Triantis just a knock have my doubts though

ChuckNor
05-10-2024, 04:05 PM
Beaten at his near post and a few other dodgy moments. Good save against Rangers aside, it is not happenening.

1875Sean
05-10-2024, 04:05 PM
Beaten at his near post and a few other dodgy moments. Good save against Rangers aside, it is not happenening.

Harsh

Northernhibee
05-10-2024, 04:09 PM
Harsh

It’s not really, though.

Greenio
05-10-2024, 04:10 PM
Beaten at his near post and a few other dodgy moments. Good save against Rangers aside, it is not happenening.

Player belted it high. No way you can say he should have saved that, near post or not

ChuckNor
05-10-2024, 04:11 PM
Harsh

Look at the saves their keeper makes today. Compare and contrast. Those saves won them three points. Our keeper has failed to save a shot at his near post. It’s not good enough.

ChuckNor
05-10-2024, 04:12 PM
Player belted it high. No way you can say he should have saved that, near post or not

If he’s positioned better then yes he should save it.

B.H.F.C
05-10-2024, 04:13 PM
I’m no sure if he was at fault for the first. It was close in and the boy lashed it. But there isn’t much on target that doesn’t end up going in.

Unseen work
05-10-2024, 04:14 PM
Can’t be getting beat at your near post

Even the second was very central

Neither look mistakes and they aren’t, but I think Mitov at Aberdeen etc save them

ChuckNor
05-10-2024, 04:14 PM
I’m no sure if he was at fault for the first. It was close in and the boy lashed it. But there isn’t much on target that doesn’t end up going in.

We need a keeper that makes saves. Their keeper has won them three points today. Could’ve been 3-0 after 60 mins. Three saves Bursic will never make.

He's here!
05-10-2024, 04:15 PM
Today's capitulation wasn't down to him.

Hibiza
05-10-2024, 04:22 PM
Can’t be getting beat at your near post

Even the second was very central

Neither look mistakes and they aren’t, but I think Mitov at Aberdeen etc save them

Spot on.

lyonhibs
05-10-2024, 04:28 PM
Can’t be getting beat at your near post

Even the second was very central

Neither look mistakes and they aren’t, but I think Mitov at Aberdeen etc save them

I've not seen the goal in question but in general, the statement "keepers shouldn't be getting beaten at their best post" is a class a) lazy line trotted or by people who've never played in goals

Greenio
05-10-2024, 04:34 PM
We need a keeper that makes saves. Their keeper has won them three points today. Could’ve been 3-0 after 60 mins. Three saves Bursic will never make.

You cant expect him to makes saves out of no shots

He was let down by his defense.

I know someone has to be the fall guy, but its no Buric today. Seriously, watch the goals back, very few keepers saving a point blank shot thats hit hugh, even if it is the near post.

If Cadden had got aby height on his the boy prob wouldnt hsve saved it

Unseen work
05-10-2024, 04:40 PM
I've not seen the goal in question but in general, the statement "keepers shouldn't be getting beaten at their best post" is a class a) lazy line trotted or by people who've never played in goals

I think it’s said for a reason

The boy has one place he can put it and it’s at the near post

You hear goalies(still playing or pundits) saying it too, not just people that haven’t played it

Centre Hawf
05-10-2024, 04:45 PM
He wasn’t the reason we lost today. But I’m still far from convinced with him, especially when it comes to shot stopping in general.

blackpoolhibs
05-10-2024, 06:55 PM
Have watched the goal a couple of times, and while folk say a keeper shouldnt be beaten at his near post, i thought the shot was virtually unsaveable, it went in the only place a keeper wouldnt be able to save it.

JohnM1875
05-10-2024, 06:57 PM
Have watched the goal a couple of times, and while folk say a keeper shouldnt be beaten at his near post, i thought the shot was virtually unsaveable, it went in the only place a keeper wouldnt be able to save it.

Spot on. It was leathered and skiffed the post before going in. So harsh blaming that on the keeper when, if we'd actually defended, the player should never have got a shot away,

random sub
05-10-2024, 07:02 PM
I guess the question has to be asked- why does every other team’s keeper look solid and dependable? No doubting of the Motherwell lad today- he looked like someone we had to beat rather than someone who would gift us something

Iain G
05-10-2024, 07:04 PM
He wasn’t the reason we lost today. But I’m still far from convinced with him, especially when it comes to shot stopping in general.

So nothing specific to attribute blame to him today, but today, but you bring him up as a negative anyway? 😳

B.H.F.C
05-10-2024, 07:07 PM
Have watched the goal a couple of times, and while folk say a keeper shouldnt be beaten at his near post, i thought the shot was virtually unsaveable, it went in the only place a keeper wouldnt be able to save it.

Without seeing it back, I never thought at the time he should have saved it. It was absolutely smashed from pretty close range. Our schoolboy defending to let the boy in, in the first place, was a far bigger issue.

Centre Hawf
05-10-2024, 07:13 PM
So nothing specific to attribute blame to him today, but today, but you bring him up as a negative anyway? 😳

Aye because I think he’s ***** but others were more ***** today. Is that better for you?

bingo70
05-10-2024, 07:25 PM
https://x.com/mr8man/status/1842586293567467782?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

I’m not bothered so much about getting beaten at his near post as too much is made of that. Just watching it again on that link his body position seems way too low for me.

Definitely not a howler but I suspect he’ll be a bit disappointed with himself when he sees that back. By being so low, he’s made it quite easy for the striker i think

Interested to hear what the goalie experts amongst us make of it once they’ve seen it back.

wookie70
05-10-2024, 07:26 PM
I wouldn't blame Bursik for either goal. Campbell and Kwon for shocking awareness and tracking and Triantis for getting two silly yellows were the big culprits today. I thought Bursik looked decent

cameronw-hfc
05-10-2024, 07:35 PM
So far, I like him. Not at fault for either today, comes for crosses usually getting at least a decent punch on it and his handling seems pretty solid.

Not even a round of fixtures and he's got a save of the season contender, he's also young for a keeper. Think he'll be fine

cameronw-hfc
05-10-2024, 07:39 PM
I think it’s said for a reason

The boy has one place he can put it and it’s at the near post

You hear goalies(still playing or pundits) saying it too, not just people that haven’t played it


Most commonly said by people who have never played in goals, including outfield pundits who often have no clue what they're talking about when it comes to being in goals.

It is a lazy comparison because sometimes a shot is just well hit. Saying they can't be beat at the near post only becomes valid if you're willing to let him forget the far post entirely and just cover the near post. Otherwise, he needs to cover both sides by getting his angles right and sometimes a shot is just very well hit into the angle he can't get to, sometimes that's far post and sometimes it's near post.

If a shot is hit with power in the corner from close range is always going to be very very difficult to save, either side.

Hibee Mac
05-10-2024, 07:45 PM
So far, I like him. Not at fault for either today, comes for crosses usually getting at least a decent punch on it and his handling seems pretty solid.

Not even a round of fixtures and he's got a save of the season contender, he's also young for a keeper. Think he'll be fineGenuine question, what was his save of the season contender? Seem to remember he made a decent save a couple games ago but not an outstanding one.

Honestly can't remember him making more than 2 or 3 saves which weren't simply bog standard 99/100 type saves.

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Paulie Walnuts
05-10-2024, 07:48 PM
Poor today. Again.

bingo70
05-10-2024, 07:48 PM
Genuine question, what was his save of the season contender? Seem to remember he made a decent save a couple games ago but not an outstanding one.

Honestly can't remember him making more than 2 or 3 saves which weren't simply bog standard 99/100 type saves.

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Save against Rangers was outstanding.

Unseen work
05-10-2024, 07:49 PM
Most commonly said by people who have never played in goals, including outfield pundits who often have no clue what they're talking about when it comes to being in goals.

It is a lazy comparison because sometimes a shot is just well hit. Saying they can't be beat at the near post only becomes valid if you're willing to let him forget the far post entirely and just cover the near post. Otherwise, he needs to cover both sides by getting his angles right and sometimes a shot is just very well hit into the angle he can't get to, sometimes that's far post and sometimes it's near post.

If a shot is hit with power in the corner from close range is always going to be very very difficult to save, either side.

Like I said my point is I think Mitov etc saves it. Saying people have no clue what they’re talking about is poor. On the Ben Foster podcast for example they speak about keepers and mistakes or saves made, often saying the goalie will be disappointed at being beat at his near post

Very small gap between Bursik and his post there and it goes in about head height

From an attacker point of view it’s very well struck and a good finish

JohnM1875
05-10-2024, 07:50 PM
Like I said my point is I think Mitov etc saves it

Very small gap between Bursik and his post there and it goes in about head height

From an attacker point of view it’s very well struck and a good finish

Think that picture just proves it wasn't his fault. Good positioning and just beat by a bullet of a shot that we failed to defend.

Hiber-nation
05-10-2024, 07:55 PM
Goal wasn't his fault but someone should be telling him to come for some of these long throws. He should have been ready for them if we'd been preparing the way SDG said we were.

Unseen work
05-10-2024, 07:58 PM
Think that picture just proves it wasn't his fault. Good positioning and just beat by a bullet of a shot that we failed to defend.

Fair enough, all about opinions 👍🏻

I just think good shot stoppers don’t get beat from those positions and if they do they’re disappointed

I think it’s because it’s a collective of goals I think he probably should have done better with that leads to me being more critical of him

BILLYHIBS
05-10-2024, 08:00 PM
Don’t trust him but thought he was good today handling was spot on like how he came and claimed or punched a cross ball and how he held low dangerous bouncing shots into his area

Thought we were going to have another Chuckle Brothers moment at the start of the second half when slow at clearing his lines putting Ekpiteta under pressure causing him to make an error ( still to see it back )

No chance at either goal

Motherwell keeper seemed to have a miracle save from Myko first half ( still to see it back )

Criswell
05-10-2024, 10:04 PM
It wasn't just the goals he conceded today, there were other incidents that he just got away with. Put me in the "not good enough" column.