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Personally think it's absolutely mental we are discussing our goal keeper for the goal when the lead it to it was Campbell didn't control a simple pass - not for the first time - and gave away a foul. God knows who fell asleep at the free kick, they then somehow got a free run tlfrom the foul and battered it into the net, which Cadden completely failed five minutes earlier in a much better position
The game tilted on our miss frim the sitter and them scoring their first decent chancr
JohnM1875
05-10-2024, 10:54 PM
Personally think it's absolutely mental we are discussing our goal keeper for the goal when the lead it to it was Campbell didn't control a simple pass - not for the first time - and gave away a foul. God knows who fell asleep at the free kick, they then somehow got a free run tlfrom the foul and battered it into the net, which Cadden completely failed five minutes earlier in a much better position
Campbell
LaMotta
05-10-2024, 10:57 PM
Personally think it's absolutely mental we are discussing our goal keeper for the goal when the lead it to it was Campbell didn't control a simple pass - not for the first time - and gave away a foul. God knows who fell asleep at the free kick, they then somehow got a free run tlfrom the foul and battered it into the net, which Cadden completely failed five minutes earlier in a much better position
The game tilted on our miss frim the sitter and them scoring their first decent chancr
Campbell
Then he did it about 3 minutes later and nearly cost us another. Was absolutely insane.
B.H.F.C
06-10-2024, 06:59 AM
Then he did it about 3 minutes later and nearly cost us another. Was absolutely insane.
What was equally insane was that he made it back out for the second half. His first half performance was as poor as you’ll see.
Everything was reactive yesterday in terms of subs and they were all done when it was too late. A bad and worrying day for me.
GreenCastle
06-10-2024, 07:13 AM
https://x.com/mr8man/status/1842586293567467782?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg
I’m not bothered so much about getting beaten at his near post as too much is made of that. Just watching it again on that link his body position seems way too low for me.
Definitely not a howler but I suspect he’ll be a bit disappointed with himself when he sees that back. By being so low, he’s made it quite easy for the striker i think
Interested to hear what the goalie experts amongst us make of it once they’ve seen it back.
Having watched it several times he’s way too low with his positioning for the 1v0 goal and there were other moments in the game when he just didn’t fill me with confidence.
At times he came well for crosses but then the equaliser was scored from the 6 yard box.
Campbell was just as poor not tracking runner - basics.
The whole back line struggled with high balls 2nd half and Miller was turned inside out at 1v1s numerous times. It was that bad that Paul McGinn looked the better player.
The Motherwell keeper made a big save at 0v0 and I kept saying the Motherwell keeper looked solid.
I’ve said before I wanted for us to have a keeper to win us games - I’m still waiting for that.
The save at Ibrox last week is defending over hyped - again watched it several times and of course he’s going to fling himself at it to stop it going in - would expect majority of keepers to do that. No where near a wonder save as being portrayed and turning into another hibs.net myth.
Unseen work
06-10-2024, 07:44 AM
Having watched it several times he’s way too low with his positioning for the 1v0 goal and there were other moments in the game when he just didn’t fill me with confidence.
At times he came well for crosses but then the equaliser was scored from the 6 yard box.
Campbell was just as poor not tracking runner - basics.
The whole back line struggled with high balls 2nd half and Miller was turned inside out at 1v1s numerous times. It was that bad that Paul McGinn looked the better player.
The Motherwell keeper made a big save at 0v0 and I kept saying the Motherwell keeper looked solid.
I’ve said before I wanted for us to have a keeper to win us games - I’m still waiting for that.
The save at Ibrox last week is defending over hyped - again watched it several times and of course he’s going to fling himself at it to stop it going in - would expect majority of keepers to do that. No where near a wonder save as being portrayed and turning into another hibs.net myth.
I really liked McGinn, found it bizarre when we got rid of him. Defensively sound and comfortable on the ball
BILLYHIBS
06-10-2024, 07:48 AM
Having watched it several times he’s way too low with his positioning for the 1v0 goal and there were other moments in the game when he just didn’t fill me with confidence.
At times he came well for crosses but then the equaliser was scored from the 6 yard box.
Campbell was just as poor not tracking runner - basics.
The whole back line struggled with high balls 2nd half and Miller was turned inside out at 1v1s numerous times. It was that bad that Paul McGinn looked the better player.
The Motherwell keeper made a big save at 0v0 and I kept saying the Motherwell keeper looked solid.
I’ve said before I wanted for us to have a keeper to win us games - I’m still waiting for that.
The save at Ibrox last week is defending over hyped - again watched it several times and of course he’s going to fling himself at it to stop it going in - would expect majority of keepers to do that. No where near a wonder save as being portrayed and turning into another hibs.net myth.
Agree seems to do this low dive thing that makes it easier for the attacker ( Dundee )
Did similar last week The Rangers away but in hindsight no chance really as the ball entered the postage stamp both pundits on Sportscene last night Stewart and Kerr agreed he had no chance with the first goal as the trajectory of the ball entered the postage stamp from an acute angle despite his low dive
I said after Dundee home he should at least try and make himself bigger something Marsh was very good at and reduce the angle better stand up ffs
Every shot seemed to go in and you wondered if he ever made a save 😀
flash
06-10-2024, 07:49 AM
Absolutely no chance with either goal.
JimBHibees
06-10-2024, 08:08 AM
Think he should come for second goal Halliday shoots from 6 yards out. Horrible defending all round
JimBHibees
06-10-2024, 08:15 AM
https://x.com/mr8man/status/1842586293567467782?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg
I’m not bothered so much about getting beaten at his near post as too much is made of that. Just watching it again on that link his body position seems way too low for me.
Definitely not a howler but I suspect he’ll be a bit disappointed with himself when he sees that back. By being so low, he’s made it quite easy for the striker i think
Interested to hear what the goalie experts amongst us make of it once they’ve seen it back.
Personally didn’t realise at the game we sit ff upper how close the striker was to him when shot personally think he has no chance with that given the height and the power. Actually thought he possibly should have come for the second goal however the general shambolic defending in front of him not winning first headers slow to react etc to me means others far more culpable than Jo.
JimBHibees
06-10-2024, 08:16 AM
I really liked McGinn, found it bizarre when we got rid of him. Defensively sound and comfortable on the ball
Agree with that a decent solid player for us
Paulie Walnuts
06-10-2024, 08:17 AM
Just saw it back and he should absolutely do better imo.
It doesn’t even go into the roof of the net, it hits the back of the net once it reaches the middle of the goals. At the point the shot goes over him it’s not exactly right in the top corner.
Really poor.
BILLYHIBS
06-10-2024, 08:54 AM
Agree with that a decent solid player for us
Good solid pro steady Eddie
Motherwell Captain now I believe
Good luck to him always had the correct attitude just like his brothers
Played well yesterday put in one solid saving tackle first half did well to get back
Unseen work
06-10-2024, 02:40 PM
Of course Mitov makes a mistake after me saying how good he is 🤣
LaMotta
06-10-2024, 04:52 PM
What was equally insane was that he made it back out for the second half. His first half performance was as poor as you’ll see.
Everything was reactive yesterday in terms of subs and they were all done when it was too late. A bad and worrying day for me.
Agreed
I really liked McGinn, found it bizarre when we got rid of him. Defensively sound and comfortable on the ball
I liked him too overall, although he did cost us massively in the two semis v Hearts:boo hoo:
blackpoolhibs
06-10-2024, 04:53 PM
I really liked McGinn, found it bizarre when we got rid of him. Defensively sound and comfortable on the ball
We've got Mark Spitz now, so much better. :agree:
CentreLine
07-10-2024, 09:22 PM
I was very critical of Bursic after the first few games. Felt his only asset was taking high balls in to the box. Shot stopping and ball at his feet seemed, let’s say not his forty.
However, last couple of games what I’m seeing is a big improvement in both those areas and I’m eating humble pie from my early assessment. Not that my assessment matters to anyone but me as a supporter. With that last thought in mind,
I think our central defence, generally, is getting better and growing in confidence. That includes Bursic. For me there are other parts of the team to concern ourselves with long before criticism is heeped in him.
GreenCastle
19-10-2024, 04:15 PM
Our whole defence is woeful but..
1st goal..surely could have intercepted the cross.
Offside goal - could have come for cross.
2nd goal - weak in the box
3rd goal - looks like he was lost again and nearly punched own player
SickBoy32
19-10-2024, 04:16 PM
Terrible goalie.
Doesny even carry himself like a goalie.
More like one of Peter pans lost boys
Centre Hawf
19-10-2024, 04:18 PM
Can we finally just ****ing stop this charade and all agree he's rotten. **** me.
SunshineOnLeith
19-10-2024, 04:22 PM
He's genuinely awful, get him out of the team and cancel the loan ASAP.
hibeez1875
19-10-2024, 04:26 PM
Worst keeper in the league
sean04
19-10-2024, 04:27 PM
Can't play again, nervous wreck
Centre Hawf
19-10-2024, 04:28 PM
Can't play again, nervous wreck
The worry is the second choice looked rotten at Kelty as well and hasn't somehow ousted this chancer from the number one spot.
Bronson
19-10-2024, 04:34 PM
I absolutely despise this guy. Play anyone over him pull a bloke out the pub if we have to there's no way he can be any worse
Pretty Boy
19-10-2024, 04:40 PM
We'll need to bring a keeper in in January. We can't persist with this.
A dodgy keeper done for Dundee United not so long ago and it will do for us as well. I defended him earlier in the season when I felt some of the criticism was harsh but there is a point where it becomes defending the indefensible. He'll cost us more points than he wins us and in the position we are in that is a huge problem.
K-Zazu
19-10-2024, 04:44 PM
He was at Club Brugge last season and didn’t even get a game! Who was watched him play or who recommended him?
Trinity Hibee
19-10-2024, 04:54 PM
Absolute mirror of poppadom hands hearts had when they last got relegated
Unseen work
19-10-2024, 04:55 PM
He’s brutal
Has been all season
ChuckNor
19-10-2024, 04:55 PM
Worst goalkeeper we’ve had at the club and that is saying something. We will be bottom of the league with this clown in goals. Dread to think what he will do next week
Northernhibee
19-10-2024, 04:55 PM
Turns out the reviews of fans from his previous clubs were actually quite kind. At least we’ve got a keeper with worse reviews as backup.
duffers
19-10-2024, 04:59 PM
The concerning thing is, that Smith (maybe unfairly) looks like he’s won a competition on a cereal box to become back-up, so until January, we are going to have to persist with Bursic.
What’s the deal with Johnson? If recalled, old he go straight in?
Booked4Being-Ugly
19-10-2024, 05:02 PM
How hard can it be to get a half decent keeper?
A good keeper should be one of your top priorities.
JohnM1875
19-10-2024, 05:05 PM
How hard can it be to get a half decent keeper?
A good keeper should be one of your top priorities.
Mitov the glaringly obvious choice. But he ends up at Aberdeen, who also get in a vastly experienced manager. Aberdeen are now second and we're bottom.
GreenGray
19-10-2024, 05:06 PM
Said it before, ***** keepers can get you relegated. This boy looks capable of that.
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HendoDelivered
19-10-2024, 05:07 PM
Send back. Guy couldn’t save a word document.
JimBHibees
19-10-2024, 05:09 PM
No idea what he was doing last goal he careered into Iredale previous to that also and there was a ball he should have claimed that Marv headed away when he didn’t need to. Clearly there are some shocking defending going on in front however looks shaky as.
Heisenberg
19-10-2024, 05:10 PM
We’re going to have to hope the January window saves us as it usually has done recently.
Paul1642
19-10-2024, 05:12 PM
If the club have any backbone we will be getting a new GK as a priority in January and terminating the loan if possible.
He’s not our player and we have nothing to benefit from persistence.
Chorley Hibee
19-10-2024, 05:12 PM
Mitov the glaringly obvious choice. But he ends up at Aberdeen, who also get in a vastly experienced manager. Aberdeen are now second and we're bottom.
Don't you know that you need a good few windows to turn things around.
The Gordon family, Kensell, McKay, McPherson are all ****ing jokers, who are collectively ripping the piss out of us all, and running this club into the ground.
Too many amidst our support who are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome and prepared to make every excuse possible for this clown show.
The Captain....
19-10-2024, 05:13 PM
He's a keeper in name only. A metaphor for Hibs under the Gordons. He's there but making no discernable difference whatsoever other than negatively. He looks like an outfield u14 player has been put between the sticks. Another catastrophic bit of recruitment in an overcrowded field of pitiful signings.
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Cabbage-Patch
19-10-2024, 07:04 PM
Seen enough of this clown now. How many goals has he cost us so far this season? Flapped at the cross for thier equaliser and then charges off his line and haymakers Iredare in the back of the head allowing them to float in the winner to an empty net. Terminate the loan and give Smith a start against Hearts. He can't be any worse. Either need a free agent keeper in or Murray Johnson back from Airdrie as Bursik cannot continue as our no1
ChuckNor
19-10-2024, 07:07 PM
How is Murray Johnson getting on at Airdrie? I genuinely would recall him if we are able to play him.
coldingham hibs
19-10-2024, 07:09 PM
Should have attempted to cut out the cross for the first goal, didn’t, should have dived out and caught or punched the cross for the second goal, didn’t, should have stayed on his line for the third goal, didn’t. A half decent keeper could have prevented all 3 goals.
Hibees1973
19-10-2024, 07:09 PM
Our first choice goalie.
Says it all. Thanks Malky.
Crab apple
19-10-2024, 07:14 PM
Lots of people at the time questioned his signing and that of the back up keeper, who amazingly is meant to be worse than Bursik. Did the two ex Goalies in Marshall and Samson on our coaching staff have any input to the signings. If so they should gtf.
Coach Jon
19-10-2024, 07:14 PM
How is Murray Johnson getting on at Airdrie? I genuinely would recall him if we are able to play him.
Murray Johnson is not the answer, never good enough.
Its a joke we are in this situation with goalkeepers, what the f*** are Marshall and Craig Samson doing about this, sitting on fat salaries, happy to take the money and shut up.
Hibee Mac
19-10-2024, 07:17 PM
Hands up everyone who told his early critics they were jumping the gun!
I said it back then, sometimes you can tell straight away if a player is terrible. It doesn't take a full round of fixtures.
FFS we knew he was shocking before the transfer window even closed, half of us were calling for another keeper then, this was avoidable.
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ChuckNor
19-10-2024, 07:19 PM
Hands up everyone who told his early critics they were jumping the gun!
I said it back then, sometimes you can tell straight away if a player is terrible. It doesn't take a full round of fixtures.
FFS we knew he was shocking before the transfer window even closed, half of us were calling for another keeper then, this was avoidable.
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I started this thread and that’s all I got initially was abuse. He is woeful.
HIBS NUTS
19-10-2024, 07:23 PM
Just seen the injury time goals, he’s had an absolute mare.
Northernhibee
19-10-2024, 07:26 PM
Just seen the injury time goals, he’s had an absolute mare.
It’s about average for him. The reverse Midas touch.
Widhibs
19-10-2024, 07:28 PM
Cost us 2 today, many before and will be many in future!
Mikey_1875
19-10-2024, 07:30 PM
I can’t believe we are worse off than last season in this position. The last two goals today are unbelievable.
Centre Hawf
19-10-2024, 07:32 PM
Hands up everyone who told his early critics they were jumping the gun!
I said it back then, sometimes you can tell straight away if a player is terrible. It doesn't take a full round of fixtures.
FFS we knew he was shocking before the transfer window even closed, half of us were calling for another keeper then, this was avoidable.
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I begged for a new goalkeeper in the middle of August. If we had anything about us we'd have tried something. Instead we're stuck with the three stooges goalkeeping department until January.
Must be dropped now. No debate. For me he is the worst goalkeeper I have seen play for us. Even Zibi didn’t make this many mistakes.
marinello59
19-10-2024, 07:34 PM
Just seen the injury time goals, he’s had an absolute mare.
He had a decent game at Ibrox, apart from that he has been poor.
marinello59
19-10-2024, 07:34 PM
Must be dropped now. No debate. For me he is the worst goalkeeper I have seen play for us. Even Zibi didn’t make this many mistakes.
If he waves at the Hearts fans next week……..
HIBS NUTS
19-10-2024, 07:38 PM
If he waves at the Hearts fans next week……..
That’s fine, but his understudy is no world beater, and he has signed a contract with us.
Heisenberg
19-10-2024, 07:39 PM
Absolutely horrendous for the second and third. Sadly he’s never getting dropped because we have no keeper better
marinello59
19-10-2024, 07:41 PM
That’s fine, but his understudy is no world beater, and he has signed a contract with us.
We got rid of better in Dubrowski.
LaMotta
19-10-2024, 08:21 PM
One half decent game at Ibrox and people were claiming he was good and the early criticism of him was unjustified. When will people learn?
eastterrace
19-10-2024, 08:29 PM
He needs binned but who do we bring in, why do we always sign **** goalies. We should be buying the best available but no Hibs just want cheap crap every time. Not looking forward to next week as hearts will just lump balls into our box and watch this imposter flap at every cross.
Hiber-nation
19-10-2024, 08:30 PM
Another Oli Gottskalksson. The similarities are scary.
LaMotta
19-10-2024, 08:33 PM
He needs binned but who do we bring in, why do we always sign **** goalies. We should be buying the best available but no Hibs just want cheap crap every time. Not looking forward to next week as hearts will just lump balls into our box and watch this imposter flap at every cross.
Absolutely spot on. Has buying an untested keeper ever worked out for us before? Its bordering on lunacy.
Stanton Spence
19-10-2024, 08:33 PM
Teams can maybe survive with some poor performances from outfield players but a poor keeper like him is what gets you relegated
Northernhibee
19-10-2024, 08:35 PM
Absolutely spot on. Has buying an untested keeper ever worked out for us before? Its bordering on lunacy.
Bursik wasn’t untested. He played over 50 first team games and fans of his last club down south thought he was ****ing terrible.
He wasn’t a punt, signing him was absolute madness.
LaMotta
19-10-2024, 08:40 PM
Bursik wasn’t untested. He played over 50 first team games and fans of his last club down south thought he was ****ing terrible.
He wasn’t a punt, signing him was absolute madness.
Fair point. I should have said unproven.
Northernhibee
19-10-2024, 08:44 PM
Fair point. I should have said unproven.
I think it was pretty much proven as well. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck….
His signing discredits the theory we’ve learned from our mistakes in recruitment in the past.
Callum_62
19-10-2024, 08:54 PM
Im not sure he could do anything with the 2nd but the 3rd he's obviously stupid to come flying out
I have massive question marks over wtf Campbell is doing too tho
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LaMotta
19-10-2024, 08:57 PM
I think it was pretty much proven as well. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck….
His signing discredits the theory we’ve learned from our mistakes in recruitment in the past.
He had a run of clean sheets with Stoke. He's also had a shed load of loan spells with different lower league clubs where hes never played more than 17 games for a team. Def unproven at Hibs level and either way an utterly **** signing. I said after the Celtic game he should never play for Hibs again. Yet here we are.
B.H.F.C
19-10-2024, 08:57 PM
Im not sure he could do anything with the 2nd but the 3rd he's obviously stupid to come flying out
I have massive question marks over wtf Campbell is doing too tho
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From a hundred yards away I didn’t think he did much wrong at the equaliser. Seeing it back, I think he should do better. It’s like his feet almost go from under him.
Whelahan 1875
19-10-2024, 09:51 PM
In what is admittedly a crowded market I think this guy could well be up there among the worst keepers I’ve seen play for us.
Countless examples of proven keepers playing in our league over the past few years (Mitov, Kelly, Carson etc) who have played well against us and in our budget. Yet we go and sign this guy. Terrible recruitment decisions time after time.
Northernhibee
19-10-2024, 09:54 PM
From a hundred yards away I didn’t think he did much wrong at the equaliser. Seeing it back, I think he should do better. It’s like his feet almost go from under him.
He should go down as having an assist for that goal.
Criswell
19-10-2024, 10:13 PM
Boy, we've seen some imposters masquerading as Goalkeepers over the years, but this latest example is probably the worst. Appalling recruitment failure that is going to cost us dear.
GreenCastle
19-10-2024, 10:49 PM
Just watched the goals again…
Am I the only one questioning what he’s doing for the first goal too?
Ball is drilled across - but he could either kick it away or just block it but goes past him as he’s so close to front post.
The 2nd and 3rd are woeful. The offside goal he was lucky too as he should have come and caught it.
This is a major problem of the team - I was also wanting a new keeper before end of transfer window - another recruitment mess up and had a chance to fix it.
zero-seven
19-10-2024, 11:49 PM
Goalkeepers should save a goal a game not cost us at least a goal a game
not good enough
CL0762
19-10-2024, 11:51 PM
Is it hyperbolic to say he’s probably the worst I’ve seen in my 25+ years of going?
He doesn’t even look like a goalie. He looks like the laddie who goes in goals during PE because no one else wanted to pick him.
Del Boy
20-10-2024, 12:08 AM
At fault for United’s 2 late goals. Can’t really defend him, he’s pish.
neil7908
20-10-2024, 12:33 AM
Is there an SPL club out there with a worse set of goalkeepers than us over the last 20 years?
joebakerforever
20-10-2024, 01:03 AM
Who was responsible for recruiting Bursic?
IMO the worst Hibs goalkeeper we've had since Zibby Malkowski, and cost us three points today with his horrific display.
Would rather we recalled Murray Johnson than persevered with this liability
basehibby
20-10-2024, 01:35 AM
Have been pouring over the Utd goals.
1st one the cross is low and hard from close in - not many keepers would have cut that out so won't blame him for that one.
2nd he gets a hand on another fierce cross but it's weak - could do better.
3rd is a complete disaster - rushes off his line with little chance of winning the ball, only succeeding in lamping his teammate in the skull and leaving the goal unguarded.
I get the idea of bringing in a promising young keeper on loan as backup - that he's our no 1 is a failing in recruitment and its telling.
Spike Mandela
20-10-2024, 06:34 AM
Boy had a mare yesterday.:rolleyes:
Nicho87
20-10-2024, 06:47 AM
Seems to be at fault for too many goals
Another cheap option solution from Hibs
As someone posted earlier, would rather Marshall had stayed on another year
Brooster
20-10-2024, 06:51 AM
Said it 100 times before.....Boruc is the best goalkeeper at the club by some distance. The two we have in the first team squad at the moment are particularly bad. Who's responsible for recruiting these players and do we actually watch them before we sign them?
Callum_62
20-10-2024, 06:53 AM
I thought Bursik seemed to be growing into his position and looked much more assured - but there's no defending the third yesterday
He careers out lamps his own player who's winning the 2nd header and is then in no mans land
It was awful goalkeeping which ultimately cost us a point. I'm not onboard about blaming him for the 1st or 2nd but the third was diabolical
It was also comical defending from Josh Campbell by standing there with his hand up his arse leaving Ubochioma the freedom of tannadice to lob it home
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Northernhibee
20-10-2024, 08:23 AM
Said it 100 times before.....Boruc is the best goalkeeper at the club by some distance. The two we have in the first team squad at the moment are particularly bad. Who's responsible for recruiting these players and do we actually watch them before we sign them?
We need to forget about distribution and the like just now and get a shot stopper in between the sticks - is he that sort of goalie?
Heisenberg
20-10-2024, 08:26 AM
We need to forget about distribution and the like just now and get a shot stopper in between the sticks - is he that sort of goalie?
Was he not atrocious on loan at Arbroath? Highly doubt he’s an upgrade on Bursik based on that.
JimBHibees
20-10-2024, 08:28 AM
Was he not atrocious on loan at Arbroath? Highly doubt he’s an upgrade on Bursik based on that.
He clearly isnt
JimBHibees
20-10-2024, 08:32 AM
Have been pouring over the Utd goals.
1st one the cross is low and hard from close in - not many keepers would have cut that out so won't blame him for that one.
2nd he gets a hand on another fierce cross but it's weak - could do better.
3rd is a complete disaster - rushes off his line with little chance of winning the ball, only succeeding in lamping his teammate in the skull and leaving the goal unguarded.
I get the idea of bringing in a promising young keeper on loan as backup - that he's our no 1 is a failing in recruitment and its telling.
That is fair thought Ekpiteta had to get over to Middleton rather than standing. Second think he should have done bit better however so should the player skinned wide and the others not reacting to the ball. Third is quite simply comic book though the scorer got a little lucky with it clipping the bar.
Northernhibee
20-10-2024, 08:34 AM
Was he not atrocious on loan at Arbroath? Highly doubt he’s an upgrade on Bursik based on that.
Tbf the team in front of him were awful and McIntyre is a joke of a manager. Difficult to judge him on that.
kentao
20-10-2024, 08:36 AM
Really need to start spending money on upgrading the recruitment team, any chance we could hire some of the guys at Motherwell or St Mirren they appear to be able to replace high numbers every season and the teams placing isn't affected. We have a partnership with a English premier league team and we didn't want any of there players including a goalkeeper who was 1 of the best in our division last season.
wills
20-10-2024, 08:54 AM
Should have held onto Dabrowski, upgrade on what we’ve brought in
easty
20-10-2024, 08:57 AM
That third goal was up there with Zibby and Makalamby levels of incompetence.
The second goals a mess tae but the third is shambolic.
Centre Hawf
20-10-2024, 09:02 AM
That third goal was up there with Zibby and Makalamby levels of incompetence.
The second goals a mess tae but the third is shambolic.
The worst part about the third is that he made the same mistake 5 minutes earlier and banjoed into Iredale and could have cost a goal then. He clearly isn’t communicating when he’s coming because Iredale looked stunned that his keepers went through him.
Nicho87
20-10-2024, 09:04 AM
Only hibs could sign a number two who knows he’s number two and even if the number one plays like a number two he’s knows he’s still going to be a number two cause the number one has been told he’s number one for the season.
🥴
Hibee Mac
20-10-2024, 11:32 AM
The worst part about the third is that he made the same mistake 5 minutes earlier and banjoed into Iredale and could have cost a goal then. He clearly isn’t communicating when he’s coming because Iredale looked stunned that his keepers went through him.You're bang on here. He's an absolute liability.
For anyone trying to be the voice of reason and say it's harsh to blame him for the first and second goals, what you're forgetting to tally up are all the shambolic pieces of goalkeeping that he is at fault for which almost cost us goals, as well as the ones he's chucking in too.
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SHODAN
20-10-2024, 11:33 AM
Maybe he's the reverse Zibi. Useless in every game except derbies where he's half decent.
Tambo
20-10-2024, 11:43 AM
After a really shaky start questions got asked and rightly so, looked to have improved a little and then you get a game like yesterday when questions are asked.
I'm not very confident of this goalkeeper, even the way he claims the ball along the ground makes me nervous.
JimBHibees
20-10-2024, 11:44 AM
The worst part about the third is that he made the same mistake 5 minutes earlier and banjoed into Iredale and could have cost a goal then. He clearly isn’t communicating when he’s coming because Iredale looked stunned that his keepers went through him.
Yep he did both times absolutely no need to come
Pretty Boy
20-10-2024, 11:48 AM
Was he not atrocious on loan at Arbroath? Highly doubt he’s an upgrade on Bursik based on that.
I saw him play for Arbroath twice and he was a bag of nerves both times. The 2nd time he was dropped for the following game so suggests I wasn't the only one who thought it.
In saying that he did regain his place late in the season and I believe found a bit of form. He has also looked fairly assured in his couple of cameos for us. I'm not convinced trying him is any worse than persisting with what we have right now.
Unseen work
20-10-2024, 11:50 AM
I’m not sure if Boruc is any good, but I’ve seen him make a couple of big saves and seems the type that can be hard to beat because of his size and how he spreads himself
Bursik’s legs seem to go under him and makes himself smaller
Hibs Go Bragh
20-10-2024, 02:55 PM
The Aberdeen fans celebrated like they’d just won the cup when we appointed Samson. Bursic is pretty hopeless but what sort of coaching is he receiving?
Gray’s downfall is going to be the coaches he’s surrounded himself with!
Pedantic_Hibee
20-10-2024, 03:01 PM
Said it 100 times before.....Boruc is the best goalkeeper at the club by some distance. The two we have in the first team squad at the moment are particularly bad. Who's responsible for recruiting these players and do we actually watch them before we sign them?
100%. A huge problem position for us over the years and someone, somewhere, has seen this boy and said “yep, he’s who we need as our number one”. It would be comical if it wasn’t so heartbreaking.
We really do bring this on ourselves. Absolute madness.
K-Zazu
20-10-2024, 03:05 PM
Boruc had an an absolute mare at Arbroath, I remember checking on flash scores every week they were conceding 3/4/5 goals all the time. Why can’t we just sign a competent experienced goalkeeper, why is that so difficult?
blackpoolhibs
20-10-2024, 03:10 PM
He hardly played i thought, if thats right how could he have been watched?:confused:
DaveF
20-10-2024, 03:16 PM
I'd be tempted to terminate Johnson's loan if we can and put him in goal. This joker currently in goal will absolutely get us relegated.
Hibiza
20-10-2024, 03:19 PM
Bursic is a nightmare and needs dropped immediately , Samson : who knows how he gets his day in.
JimBHibees
20-10-2024, 03:20 PM
I'd be tempted to terminate Johnson's loan if we can and put him in goal. This joker currently in goal will absolutely get us relegated.
We couldn’t terminate Johnson and he be able to play before January
JimBHibees
20-10-2024, 03:22 PM
He hardly played i thought, if thats right how could he have been watched?:confused:
Sounds like he was promising a few years back but has had injuries since. Looks a bit of a confidence keeper at a bit of a low ebb at present. Personally would keep him in for now.
hibeez1875
20-10-2024, 03:27 PM
Sly Stallone in Escape To Victory looked a more natural keeper than Bursic
flash
20-10-2024, 03:32 PM
We now find ourselves in the position of choosing between a keeper whose confidence looks shot or bringing someone in for a massive match who the club clearly think is worse than him.
The dalmeny
20-10-2024, 03:44 PM
Sly Stallone in Escape To Victory looked a more natural keeper than Bursic
Any chance of Pele and Bobby Moore too?
lucky
20-10-2024, 04:16 PM
As fans we can see he’s not good enough but yet again our manager and coaching staff can’t. He’s cost us a few goals already and is unnerving our fragile defence. Not only should he be dropped but returned to his own club
blackpoolhibs
20-10-2024, 04:19 PM
As fans we can see he’s not good enough but yet again our manager and coaching staff can’t. He’s cost us a few goals already and is unnerving our fragile defence. Not only should he be dropped but returned to his own club
They are stuck with him, his understudy is even worse and we cant bring another keeper in until January.:boo hoo:
Hibiza
20-10-2024, 04:26 PM
Sly Stallone in Escape To Victory looked a more natural keeper than Bursic
😂😂😂
Hibiza
20-10-2024, 04:28 PM
Surely be an out of contract goalie to be had , cant get an worse.
blackpoolhibs
20-10-2024, 04:32 PM
Sly Stallone in Escape To Victory looked a more natural keeper than Bursic
He's busy in Tulsa just now. :greengrin
ancient hibee
20-10-2024, 04:36 PM
He's busy in Tulsa just now. :greengrin
No still 24 hours away.
Bobby's Cinema
20-10-2024, 09:57 PM
As fans we can see he’s not good enough but yet again our manager and coaching staff can’t. He’s cost us a few goals already and is unnerving our fragile defence. Not only should he be dropped but returned to his own club
How bad must Wollacott have been. Recruitment of Bursic and a second choice that has no interest in playing is bizarre - but the manager must have had a say in letting him depart to make way for these supposed upgrades.
Unseen work
20-10-2024, 09:59 PM
How bad must Wollacott have been. Recruitment of Bursic and a second choice that has no interest in playing is bizarre - but the manager must have had a say in letting him depart to make way for these supposed upgrades.
Wollacott is another who is better than Bursik.
Struggled in a couple of games when he was randomly chucked in having not played for months.
When he got a string of games he looked better and capable of saving a shot, he had one against Livi iirc that was brilliant
Criswell
21-10-2024, 12:00 AM
Surely be an out of contract goalie to be had , cant get an worse.
Totally agree. We desperately need somebody; anybody, please, who can actually be classed as a "Goalkeeper" The club needs to find someone now. leave it to January and the damage done will in all probability be irreversible. To call this situation unprofessional does not come even close.
Criswell
21-10-2024, 12:11 AM
Surely be an out of contract goalie to be had , cant get an worse.
Totally agree. we desperately need somebody; anybody, please, who can be classed as a "goalkeeper". We can't afford to wait till January. In all probability the damage done by then will prove irreversible. To call this situation unprofessional does not come even close!
we are hibs
21-10-2024, 03:54 AM
Guy reminds me of Oxley. But worse.
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MWHIBBIES
21-10-2024, 04:48 AM
Guy reminds me of Oxley. But worse.
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Oxley was much better.
flash
21-10-2024, 07:54 AM
Surely be an out of contract goalie to be had , cant get an worse.
Anyone got the Polar Bear's number?
Jones28
21-10-2024, 08:55 AM
Just re-watched the highlights, and for their 3rd its an absolute calamity. Not only does he get nowhere near the ball, he actually nails the guys who wins the header clearing header. It's a stinker. Get him out the team and cancel his loan.
flash
21-10-2024, 09:07 AM
Just re-watched the highlights, and for their 3rd its an absolute calamity. Not only does he get nowhere near the ball, he actually nails the guys who wins the header clearing header. It's a stinker. Get him out the team and cancel his loan.
Likewise just revisited highlights and have a few observations.
For the first goal Molotnikov gives the ball away far too easily then Middleton skins Miller easily too.
Newells first booking isn't even a foul. Regardless his poor touch makes him stretch into the tackle for his second yellow which shouldn't have been necessary.
Bursic just looks like a laddie lost out there and absolutely needs taking out of the firing line.
It's a game we should never have lost but we are getting far too used to that feeling.
We’ll be stuck with these goalies all season ,just got to hope they improve
Stokesy's on fire
21-10-2024, 10:06 AM
Guy reminds me of Oxley. But worse.
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He doesn't remind me of any of our poor past keepers. He really is in a league of his own in terms of how poor he actually is.
Hibernian Verse
21-10-2024, 10:09 AM
Save percentage of 59.4%, Mitov with 77.4%.
It's obvious who did the better recruitment.
flash
21-10-2024, 10:10 AM
We’ll be stuck with these goalies all season ,just got to hope they improve
We have 3 keepers. Surely it's time to try one of the alternatives.
Saint Hibee
21-10-2024, 11:31 AM
We should never have let Dabrowski go. I thought he usually looked pretty assured.
GreenCastle
21-10-2024, 11:38 AM
Save percentage of 59.4%, Mitov with 77.4%.
It's obvious who did the better recruitment.
While I understand what you’re getting at and Mitov is the better keeper by far - don’t think it tells the full story.
Out of all the games this season I can only remember 1 save Bursik has made where I thought that’s going in and that was against Rangers away. I think many fans over hyped the save but it was a save.
I actually think his catching has been decent enough from crosses but then against Utd looked like he had never caught a ball in his life with his decision making.
He needs dropped but I have the fear about the backup keeper Smith too having watched him at Kelty.
A dodgy keeper makes a back line of 3 or 4 worse - i genuinely believe a better keeper and the back line improves a bit. Still not fully convinced with the back 4 who have been playing but don’t think a dodgy keeper is doing them any favours.
Cooshed Kid
21-10-2024, 12:04 PM
While I understand what you’re getting at and Mitov is the better keeper by far - don’t think it tells the full story.
Out of all the games this season I can only remember 1 save Bursik has made where I thought that’s going in and that was against Rangers away. I think many fans over hyped the save but it was a save.
I actually think his catching has been decent enough from crosses but then against Utd looked like he had never caught a ball in his life with his decision making.
He needs dropped but I have the fear about the backup keeper Smith too having watched him at Kelty.
A dodgy keeper makes a back line of 3 or 4 worse - i genuinely believe a better keeper and the back line improves a bit. Still not fully convinced with the back 4 who have been playing but don’t think a dodgy keeper is doing them any favours.
Our squad is where it is so we have potentially 3 keepers to choose from. We have had limited exposure to Smith and Boruc. Based purely on what I have seen, I'd give Boruc a shot, but whether this young man would give his defence confidence, I don't know. What we really need at this stage is a late career Roughie, ideally.
I don't know why we let Dabrowski go. He was a star in the derby. Yes, he had a mare at Falkirk, but the entire team did. That was when I began to wonder if the negative stories we had heard about Streaky Lee were correct. Anyway, we now have another 3 keepers, none of whom automatically inspires confidence. Great recruitment.
flash
21-10-2024, 12:06 PM
While I understand what you’re getting at and Mitov is the better keeper by far - don’t think it tells the full story.
Out of all the games this season I can only remember 1 save Bursik has made where I thought that’s going in and that was against Rangers away. I think many fans over hyped the save but it was a save.
I actually think his catching has been decent enough from crosses but then against Utd looked like he had never caught a ball in his life with his decision making.
He needs dropped but I have the fear about the backup keeper Smith too having watched him at Kelty.
A dodgy keeper makes a back line of 3 or 4 worse - i genuinely believe a better keeper and the back line improves a bit. Still not fully convinced with the back 4 who have been playing but don’t think a dodgy keeper is doing them any favours.
That last sentence is undoubtedly true.
GreenCastle
21-10-2024, 12:18 PM
Our squad is where it is so we have potentially 3 keepers to choose from. We have had limited exposure to Smith and Boruc. Based purely on what I have seen, I'd give Boruc a shot, but whether this young man would give his defence confidence, I don't know. What we really need at this stage is a late career Roughie, ideally.
I don't know why we let Dabrowski go. He was a star in the derby. Yes, he had a mare at Falkirk, but the entire team did. That was when I began to wonder if the negative stories we had heard about Streaky Lee were correct. Anyway, we now have another 3 keepers, none of whom automatically inspires confidence. Great recruitment.
We actually have 4 keepers..
Bursik
Smith
Boruc
Johnson
Smith has hardly played since 2018/2019 - 12 games
Boruc had a dodgy loan
Johnson been loaned out to the worst team in championship and let in 18 goals this season (the most in that league). Can’t imagine that’s doing his confidence any good.
overdrive
21-10-2024, 12:23 PM
We actually have 4 keepers..
Bursik
Smith
Boruc
Johnson
Smith has hardly played since 2018/2019 - 12 games
Boruc had a dodgy loan
Johnson been loaned out to the worst team in championship and let in 18 goals this season (the most in that league). Can’t imagine that’s doing his confidence any good.
Not to choose from though. Johnson is on loan and even if we recalled him, we couldn’t play him until January
GreenCastle
21-10-2024, 12:29 PM
Not to choose from though. Johnson is on loan and even if we recalled him, we couldn’t play him until January
Yup.
Would 100% sign a new starting keeper in Jan though.
12 more games before that window opens though.
erin go bragh
21-10-2024, 12:37 PM
Id play Boruc before him as teams only need about three shots on target to score a couple of goals.
Hiber-nation
21-10-2024, 12:40 PM
We should never have let Dabrowski go. I thought he usually looked pretty assured.
I've seen him a few times this season. He's a bit of a cult hero at Stark's Park. His kicking has improved and his shot-stopping is fantastic but he still has these daft moments. I think he'll keep improving and become a very good keeper.
Pretty Boy
21-10-2024, 12:45 PM
The 3rd goal on Saturday is just horrendously bad from Bursik.
It's every inch the decision a keeper who's confidence is shot to pieces makes. It's rash, never his ball and a confident keeper lets his defender deal with that. Someone struggling has the jitters and their head is saying 'I better do something' and that is the outcome. I think it's best for all concerned if he's taken out the firing line. A mistake like that against Hearts, and it's a real possibility, and there is no way back for him here.
As an aside how weak are we defending the initial ball into the box that leads to the keeper having his rush of blood to the head? I think it's O'Hora who gets totally ragdolled by the striker who just wants it more.
expresso
21-10-2024, 12:55 PM
It’s been clear since the first few games that he’s not good enough by a long way.
They need to try Boruc or something
Nicho87
21-10-2024, 01:35 PM
No competition from a ready in waiting number 1
Are we surprised Bursik has started off shaky and not really impressed apart from 1-2 saves.
I think there’s a good few goals we’ve conceaded already this season where you can easily argue saying a half decent goalie makes 1-2 saves rather than letting them in.
Again though, short term solutions and a cheap answer for hibs to go for a young loan goalie
Stokesy's on fire
21-10-2024, 02:05 PM
The best keeper at the club is easilly Murray Johnson.
Paulie Walnuts
21-10-2024, 02:07 PM
The best keeper at the club is easilly Murray Johnson.
I think people are getting carried away with how good Boruc and Johnson are because of how bad Bursic is.
Bursic is guff but they’re not any better from what I’ve saw of them. They’re playing at the level they currently are for a reason.
Centre Hawf
21-10-2024, 04:18 PM
The best keeper at the club is easilly Murray Johnson.
I've said it before that while I rate Murray Johnson's potential highly but I think he's not ready to be a Hibs keeper yet, especially in these circumstances. If our back line was more settled and could be trusted to help him out then I'd say go for it, but at this point any potential Johnson has would be just squandered after he drops a couple of clangers as well, which would definitely come. That's why he's at Airdrie imo, he's finally out playing senior football regularly and he'll learn a lot from it. Especially since he's in what is a struggling side at the moment.
From what I gather despite the goals conceded he's doing well for a 19 year old keeper with not a lot of senior experience, seems to mostly be struggling with short distribution given the way McCabe wants to play out from the back there, which he'll probably need to pick up quickly if he was to be a top flight keeper. But his shot stopping has been pretty decent at least.
Patience is a virtue with him but I would hazard a guess that he needs this entire season plus another hopefully at a club chasing promotion before we can consider him a solution to any of our problems. Which is why I find it all the more baffling that we just didn't go find a proper experienced older keeper on a 2 or 3 year deal with a view of phasing Johnson in when he was ready. Instead we ended up with what I can only assume is a cheap and poor loanee and a number two that appears to have been brought in on a panic because Bursic was injured for the Kelty game.
JohnM1875
21-10-2024, 04:30 PM
From Pie and Bovril on Twitter;
‘ Focus on Goalkeepers
(GK with most apps at each club)
Currrent save %
Kasper Schmeical 88.9%
Dimitar Mitov 77.4%
Aston Oxborough 76.3%
Jack Butland 75.0%
Jack Walton 68.0%
Ross Laidlaw 60.5%
Kieran O'Hara 60.0%
Josef Burski 59.9%
Jon McCracken 58.1%
Ross Sinclair 54.5%
Ellery Balcombe 51.4%
Craig Gordon 47.6%’
Bostonhibby
21-10-2024, 04:31 PM
Smith is unlikely to be the answer but Bursik just hasn't got it, we are meant to be improving and I'm currently feeling sorry for Kevin Dabrowski such is the measure of our improvement since he left.
He'd definitely be an upgrade on where we are now.
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easty
21-10-2024, 04:38 PM
From Pie and Bovril on Twitter;
‘ Focus on Goalkeepers
(GK with most apps at each club)
Currrent save %
Kasper Schmeical 88.9%
Dimitar Mitov 77.4%
Aston Oxborough 76.3%
Jack Butland 75.0%
Jack Walton 68.0%
Ross Laidlaw 60.5%
Kieran O'Hara 60.0%
Josef Burski 59.9%
Jon McCracken 58.1%
Ross Sinclair 54.5%
Ellery Balcombe 51.4%
Craig Gordon 47.6%’
For me, it’s one of those stats that doesn’t really tell you anything about how someones playing.
You could save every shot, have a 100% save record, but all the shots were crap and easy saves.
You could have a 0% record and have had no chance with the shots that went past you.
JohnM1875
21-10-2024, 04:40 PM
For me, it’s one of those stats that doesn’t really tell you anything about how someones playing.
You could save every shot, have a 100% save record, but all the shots were crap and easy saves.
You could have a 0% record and have had no chance with the shots that went past you.
Aye, tend to agree. I wasn't posting in defence of Bursik, just though it's probably the best thread to share it.
MWHIBBIES
21-10-2024, 04:55 PM
For me, it’s one of those stats that doesn’t really tell you anything about how someones playing.
You could save every shot, have a 100% save record, but all the shots were crap and easy saves.
You could have a 0% record and have had no chance with the shots that went past you.
In one or two games that could happen. Not over a season.
It's probably too early for it to be much use, though. Don't need stats to know he's not very good.
Hibiza
21-10-2024, 05:03 PM
Bursik should be dropped immediately and hopefully not seen in our jersey again.
easty
21-10-2024, 05:41 PM
In one or two games that could happen. Not over a season.
It's probably too early for it to be much use, though. Don't need stats to know he's not very good.
Your second point is all that matters really.
Hibby70
21-10-2024, 05:45 PM
Sly Stallone in Escape To Victory looked a more natural keeper than Bursic
We'd be better with the keeper that had his arm broken deliberately so Sly could play, or Michael Caine.
zitelli62
21-10-2024, 05:45 PM
Personally I'd go for ross laidlaw proven league keeper, not a long term solution but better than we have got.
MWHIBBIES
21-10-2024, 05:50 PM
Your second point is all that matters really.
Sadly yeah. To think some folk didn't rate Marciano. Been utter ***** since.
Cod Boy
21-10-2024, 06:05 PM
Is David Marshall no still kicking about in a job at Hibs. Get him signed on freedom of contract till January
Nicho87
21-10-2024, 06:39 PM
Personally I'd go for ross laidlaw proven league keeper, not a long term solution but better than we have got.
We’ve not had a long term solution since 1875 to be honest
😁
lucky
21-10-2024, 06:45 PM
Is David Marshall no still kicking about in a job at Hibs. Get him signed on freedom of contract till January
That’s not the worst shout on this thread
MWHIBBIES
21-10-2024, 07:03 PM
Is David Marshall no still kicking about in a job at Hibs. Get him signed on freedom of contract till January
Marshall was bad enough before a 6 month holiday.
Bostonhibby
21-10-2024, 07:52 PM
Marshall was bad enough before a 6 month holiday.We need a Conrad Logan. Actually even now he's possibly still an option.[emoji3]
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Pedantic_Hibee
21-10-2024, 08:02 PM
We need a Conrad Logan. Actually even now he's possibly still an option.[emoji3]
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I’d take Gabby Logan right now over the chumps we’ve got.
Bostonhibby
21-10-2024, 08:04 PM
I’d take Gabby Logan right now over the chumps we’ve got.[emoji23]
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flash
21-10-2024, 08:20 PM
I’d take Gabby Logan right now over the back of the sofa.
Absolutely no need.
Jamesie
21-10-2024, 10:57 PM
Adam Bogdan is a free agent. A known quantity, only 37 - still relatively young by keeper standards - may not the worst idea.
Adam Bogdan is a free agent. A known quantity, only 37 - still relatively young by keeper standards - may not the worst idea.
I liked Bogdan but he announced his retirement not long ago.
Keylor Navas is also 37 and is a free agent, don't think he's retired. 👀
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/keylor-navas/profil/spieler/79422
HoboHarry
21-10-2024, 11:16 PM
I liked Bogdan but he announced his retirement not long ago.
Keylor Navas is also 37 and is a free agent, don't think he's retired. 👀
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/keylor-navas/profil/spieler/79422
He probably carries more in his wallet daily than we could pay him weekly.
SaulGoodman
21-10-2024, 11:50 PM
Would rather have Matt Macey back.
Pedantic_Hibee
22-10-2024, 07:14 AM
Absolutely no need.
😂😂😂
Centre Hawf
22-10-2024, 08:31 AM
Would rather have Matt Macey back.
It's worrying that I would have the Matt Macey we had back over this guy.
hibsbollah
22-10-2024, 11:58 AM
The best keeper at the club is easilly Murray Johnson.
I've never seen him play, although ive seen him train and look very impressive, which admittedly doesnt tell you much about how he'll perform in front of a crowd. Someone who knows goalkeeping agrees with you-described him to me as the 'real deal'.
GreenCastle
22-10-2024, 12:18 PM
It's worrying that I would have the Matt Macey we had back over this guy.
Wasn’t a fan of Macey but he was more solid than what we currently have.
wookie70
22-10-2024, 12:27 PM
From the limited game time he has had Boruc would be a better option. I think both Laidlaw and Dąbrowski are both significantly better than all the Keepers we currently employ. I have always thought Keeper was arguably the most or at least second most important position on the pitch. It makes a huge difference to the whole team having a reliable keeper who can also win games with unexpected stops. Arguably Hearts finished ahead of us for a few season with Gordon being the main difference. The recruitment of that position is worse this year than it has been for decades
blackpoolhibs
22-10-2024, 12:40 PM
Goram, Leighton, Budgie, Rough, the last one kept us up virtually on his own.
We dont seem to be able to spot ones like that anymore, Rocky and Bogdan were good, yet saying that i'd take any of the likes of Macey or Oxley or Williams over this one.
LNHibs
22-10-2024, 02:14 PM
From the limited game time he has had Boruc would be a better option. I think both Laidlaw and Dąbrowski are both significantly better than all the Keepers we currently employ. I have always thought Keeper was arguably the most or at least second most important position on the pitch. It makes a huge difference to the whole team having a reliable keeper who can also win games with unexpected stops. Arguably Hearts finished ahead of us for a few season with Gordon being the main difference. The recruitment of that position is worse this year than it has been for decades
Boruc was apparently absolutely hopeless at Arbroath
BILLYHIBS
22-10-2024, 02:34 PM
Goram, Leighton, Budgie, Rough, the last one kept us up virtually on his own.
We dont seem to be able to spot ones like that anymore, Rocky and Bogdan were good, yet saying that i'd take any of the likes of Macey or Oxley or Williams over this one.
👍
Agree spoke up for Roughie in the HoF thread deserved his place 44 shut outs in a sheight team kept King Paddy in a job Goram Leighton and Budgie weren’t too shabby either all model pros and kent their angles
Forza Fred
23-10-2024, 10:22 AM
An experienced goalkeeper with a strong recent track record was a MUST to start the campaign with.
Having a dodgy goalie ruins confidence right through the team and that’s exactly what Burisic has done
I don’t know what due diligece, if any, was done on him prior to signing him, but I doubt much.
In his interview the day he joined us he stated how he had spoken to ‘Malky’afew times and he had sold the club to him.
What on earth convinced McKay to sign off on this loan?
He's here!
23-10-2024, 10:31 AM
An experienced goalkeeper with a strong recent track record was a MUST to start the campaign with.
Having a dodgy goalie ruins confidence right through the team and that’s exactly what Burisic has done
I don’t know what due diligece, if any, was done on him prior to signing him, but I doubt much.
In his interview the day he joined us he stated how he had spoken to ‘Malky’afew times and he had sold the club to him.
What on earth convinced McKay to sign off on this loan?
A goalkeeper doesn't need to be at the level of Goram (best I've seen) but he needs to carry a bit of presence and the sense that they can shake off the odd mistake. Budgie and Logan were great examples of this. As you say, if there's a feeling the keeper lacks confidence it spreads throughout the defence.
Thankless position but there must surely have been better in terms of experience out there.
hibsforeurope
23-10-2024, 11:14 AM
Goal Keeper was one of the positions we didn't need a massive clear out, there was no reason we shouldn't have gone out and got a good, commanding permanent keeper in this summer.
What we've ended up with is the exact opposite, Bursik is so timid and doesn't speak (we were in the front row behind the goal on Saturday and never heard a peep from him or the defence all 1st half). it's no wonder there are so many mistakes, no one is talking to each other.
We need to be cancelling this loan in January and get a commanding, experienced keeper in who will earn us points. If Bursik is still out number 1 in February we're only going 1 way!
Pretty Boy
23-10-2024, 11:35 AM
Boruc was apparently absolutely hopeless at Arbroath
I wouldn't say hopeless on the occasions I saw him but very nervy. That isn't what we need right now, we need someone to come in and be a commanding presence.
1875M
23-10-2024, 12:22 PM
I remember Marciano getting grief on here from a lot of posters cos he wasn’t the greatest with the ball at his feet. What I would give for him now. Even Macey would be a step up. I cannot believe we don’t have a solid keeper. There were so many options in the summer. Mitov, Carson, George, McCrorie. All solid, steady, premier league keepers.
Unseen work
23-10-2024, 12:38 PM
I remember Marciano getting grief on here from a lot of posters cos he wasn’t the greatest with the ball at his feet. What I would give for him now. Even Macey would be a step up. I cannot believe we don’t have a solid keeper. There were so many options in the summer. Mitov, Carson, George, McCrorie. All solid, steady, premier league keepers.
You’re surely not meaning Shamal George or Robbie McCrorie? They’re absolutely brutal
Trinity Hibee
23-10-2024, 12:41 PM
Someone on another thread rightly highlighted that Hearts and DU both got relegated in the last few years with keepers who were chucking in goals. That’s the problem we now have and should be a massive concern.
Callum_62
23-10-2024, 01:04 PM
I can't see him not starting on Sunday
Hope he goes out and proves a lot of doubters wrong
His error at the third was a shocker, no doubt. Strangely I've thought his command of the area and claiming crosses have looked the most assured part of his game to be honest
Needs a big ,character building performance on Sunday
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1875M
23-10-2024, 01:46 PM
You’re surely not meaning Shamal George or Robbie McCrorie? They’re absolutely brutal
McCrorie who was in the Scotland squad? Why’s that a ‘brutal shout’. Have you seen the state of our keeper. He’s built like a 16 year old laddie, no presence and a below average shot stopper.
George was a solid premiership keeper who played for a rubbish team.
GreenCastle
23-10-2024, 02:45 PM
Just came across this..
Hearts v Stoke..
Bursik and Gayle playing for Stoke!
10 mins 12 seconds - Bursik attempted save at Shanklands shot for 2nd goal...
https://youtu.be/Nt89cSequ7M?si=-dMySHDgjV6QCi-c
Trinity Hibee
23-10-2024, 02:48 PM
Just came across this..
Hearts v Stoke..
Bursik and Gayle playing for Stoke!
10 mins 12 seconds - Bursik attempted save at Shanklands shot for 2nd goal...
https://youtu.be/Nt89cSequ7M?si=-dMySHDgjV6QCi-c
Last thing I wanted to see ahead of Sunday
Unseen work
23-10-2024, 03:06 PM
McCrorie who was in the Scotland squad? Why’s that a ‘brutal shout’. Have you seen the state of our keeper. He’s built like a 16 year old laddie, no presence and a below average shot stopper.
George was a solid premiership keeper who played for a rubbish team.
Yeah the same one, he’s done nothing to deserve being in the Scotland squad and was only there because of being at Rangers.
He’s already made several howlers this season.
Jon McCracken at Dundee was also called up recently and is also poor imo.
I think Bursik is really poor, but the thought of having McCrorie or George in instead of him also gives the me fear! Three poor keepers
Hibiza
23-10-2024, 03:17 PM
Get a new goalie in , pronto .befy Sunday .who scouted Bursik ?
Hibiza
23-10-2024, 03:18 PM
Before
Trinity Hibee
23-10-2024, 03:30 PM
Get a new goalie in , pronto .befy Sunday .who scouted Bursik ?
Probably Stevie Wonder
Paul1642
23-10-2024, 05:10 PM
Signing Bursik was a mistake but in theory could have worked out.
Signing Smith on the other hand was very poor decision. A number two needs to be good enough to step in if the first choice gets injured or isn’t performing.
Instead we are in a position where we don’t trust our #1 yet replacing him with Smith isn’t likely to be any better.
There are probably more than a few teams in the league right now whose second choice keeper is better than Bursik. Piss poor recruitment from us.
Hibstrooper
23-10-2024, 06:15 PM
Signing Bursik was a mistake but in theory could have worked out.
Signing Smith on the other hand was very poor decision. A number two needs to be good enough to step in if the first choice gets injured or isn’t performing.
Instead we are in a position where we don’t trust our #1 yet replacing him with Smith isn’t likely to be any better.
There are probably more than a few teams in the league right now whose second choice keeper is better than Bursik. Piss poor recruitment from us.
Spot on.
The decision to not get a backup who is there to compete and push for the #1 but rather go for a ‘good guy’ who won’t kick up a stink about being on bench each week is criminal and what’s hurting us here.
Iain G
23-10-2024, 06:26 PM
Spot on.
The decision to not get a backup who is there to compete and push for the #1 but rather go for a ‘good guy’ who won’t kick up a stink about being on bench each week is criminal and what’s hurting us here.
Criminal is it? Yes, or course 😳
Hibstrooper
23-10-2024, 06:28 PM
Criminal is it? Yes, or course 😳
Turn of phrase 🙄
MWHIBBIES
27-10-2024, 12:47 PM
The worst keeper I've seen.
Northernhibee
27-10-2024, 12:50 PM
The worst keeper I've seen.
Literally no redeeming features as a footballer whatsoever. Would struggle at literally any level.
Pretty Boy
27-10-2024, 12:52 PM
The big issue is he has a costly mistake in him every week.
He's had not a bad game today but he absolutely chucks it and looks likely to cost us another 2 points.
Guys like that get teams relegated.
GreenNWhiteArmy
27-10-2024, 12:58 PM
Not usually one for a pile on. But we genuinely could go down with him in goals..absolute zero confidence we see a game out with him
A total ***** bag. Why couldn't he just land on the ball and clutch it?
DH1875
27-10-2024, 12:58 PM
Add him to a long list of crap goalkeepers.
SHODAN
27-10-2024, 12:59 PM
Another Hearts legend. Should never play for us again.
GreenCastle
27-10-2024, 01:01 PM
Didn’t have much to do and was doing ok but about 2 mins before equaliser he could have gathered a long pass into box but fumbled it and goes out for corner. Small things but also key moments in close games.
Gordon for example made saves today
Jones28
27-10-2024, 01:02 PM
How the **** he didn’t gather that ball…pretty much set their goal up.
Tambo
27-10-2024, 01:02 PM
A couple of shakey moments on what was an untested day for Bursik, still gets me nervous.
ChuckNor
27-10-2024, 01:03 PM
I rest my case. He has to be dropped. There is absolutely no way Smith is worse.
Crab apple
27-10-2024, 01:04 PM
Scarily he will be our number one until January at least.
Paul1642
27-10-2024, 01:04 PM
I rest my case. He has to be dropped. There is absolutely no way Smith is worse.
I’m worried you might be wrong, and that is saying something.
Unseen work
27-10-2024, 01:04 PM
Said it from the St Mirren game, he’s rubbish
Scottie
27-10-2024, 01:05 PM
He’s like a wee rabbit trapped in the headlights no confidence in his ability at all
tonyrougier123
27-10-2024, 01:06 PM
Shocking goalie cost us again, needs to clutch that ball butter fingers
Centre Hawf
27-10-2024, 01:06 PM
I agreed with the logic of not putting a new goalie in today because it's just hanging people out to dry at that point. But now that it's out the way I'd like to just bite the bullet and stick one of the other two in now.
Since90+2
27-10-2024, 01:06 PM
Cost us the game. Absolutely brutal.
Keith_M
27-10-2024, 01:07 PM
What chance have we got with him in goals and Miller at RB
LaMotta
27-10-2024, 01:09 PM
Cost us the game. Absolutely brutal.
A ***in disgrace of a keeper
Unseen work
27-10-2024, 01:10 PM
First goal he needs to do much much better
Second goal I thought he could have took a touch but then sclaffed his clearance
I would genuinely consider cancelling it too. He’s had a couple of moments already and we’re second game in.
We saw what happened to United when they had a dodgy keeper
Bring in Will Dennis on loan
Was obvious two months ago
paddy1875
27-10-2024, 01:12 PM
I rest my case. He has to be dropped. There is absolutely no way Smith is worse.
I’d rather put JDH in goals from now to January
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He is part of the reason the defence are nervous
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Paul1642
27-10-2024, 01:12 PM
If they link up with the Black Knights is worth anything they need to bail us out with a good GK loan at the earliest opportunity.
cameronw-hfc
27-10-2024, 01:13 PM
Surely there's a free agent keeper we could get up to speed that will be better?
The Captain....
27-10-2024, 01:19 PM
We've got to get a keeper in asap. There's no way Bursik should be near a squad again. You can't give him anymore chances or he'll relegate us on his own.
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Callum_62
27-10-2024, 01:33 PM
I'm at the game so no replays but I thought Bursik was generally fine?
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hibee_girl
27-10-2024, 01:34 PM
I'm at the game so no replays but I thought Bursik was generally fine?
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He was, until the goal.
Callum_62
27-10-2024, 01:35 PM
He was, until the goal.I seen the goal, we lost 2 he was headers and the boy got in front of Miller
Zero the goalie can do there for me
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cabbageandribs1875
27-10-2024, 01:37 PM
come on whoever at Easter Road
admit it
own up
raise yer hand
WHO instigated the move for BursiK
:(
Bostonhibby
27-10-2024, 01:42 PM
come on whoever at Easter Road
admit it
own up
raise yer hand
WHO instigated the move for BursiK
:(Maybe wasn't very complicated.
Looks like a guy who tried his hand as a wicket keeper in Cricket but wasn't any good but thought I've still got the gloves so I'll give football a try.
Along comes the golden quadrangle process etc........
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Heisenberg
27-10-2024, 01:58 PM
I stuck up for him early doors but he’s really not improved at all. Smith has to start midweek
Callum_62
27-10-2024, 02:01 PM
I guess im the only one who thought he was generally fine?
Maybe I missed something at the game but he was mostly assured to me?
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BoomtownHibees
27-10-2024, 02:03 PM
I guess im the only one who thought he was generally fine?
Maybe I missed something at the game but he was mostly assured to me?
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Only thing he done today was spilled the ball which led to a corner which then led to the throw in which led to the goal.
Bit of a stretch to blame him for the goal however if he collects that ball and launches it up the park, they don’t score from it
blackpoolhibs
27-10-2024, 02:06 PM
I guess im the only one who thought he was generally fine?
Maybe I missed something at the game but he was mostly assured to me?
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If you think generally fine means sheite again then yes.
Callum_62
27-10-2024, 02:07 PM
Only thing he done today was spilled the ball which led to a corner which then led to the throw in which led to the goal.
Bit of a stretch to blame him for the goal however if he collects that ball and launches it up the park, they don’t score from itThat just reads like folk wanting to blame him
We had a chance to defend the corner then the throw and we lost the first grader, didn't win the 2nd cleanly then Miller allowed his man in front of him
Massive stretch to blame Bursik ino
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Centre Hawf
27-10-2024, 02:08 PM
Only thing he done today was spilled the ball which led to a corner which then led to the throw in which led to the goal.
Bit of a stretch to blame him for the goal however if he collects that ball and launches it up the park, they don’t score from it
I think this is a good summary really, he's not the person you point to and say "he cost us a goal today". I'd reserve that for Miller, but at the same time he's just a particularly poor goalkeeper that has cost us points and has also put us under pressure with stupid mistakes.
Callum_62
27-10-2024, 02:09 PM
If you think generally fine means sheite again then yes.***** how?
He made a few saves and took quiet A few crosses under pressure
Not really seeing the "*****" argument really .
Unless I missed something major
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LaMotta
27-10-2024, 02:11 PM
***** how?
He made a few saves and took quiet A few crosses under pressure
Not really seeing the "*****" argument really .
Unless I missed something major
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Astonishing take. He cost us a corner by spilling a simple ball which then led to them getting the thown in that led to the goal.
Shocking goalkeeping and he has cost us yet again.
Callum_62
27-10-2024, 02:14 PM
Astonishing take. He cost us a corner by spilling a simple ball which then led to them getting the thown in that led to the goal.
Shocking goalkeeping and he has cost us yet again.So 2 phases of play earlier he made a mistake?
[emoji1787]
That's the one I didn't have a good view of so wasn't sure what happened
Either that, blaming someone of multiple phases of play earlier earlier is a bit harsh imo
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Bridge hibs
27-10-2024, 02:14 PM
Astonishing take. He cost us a corner by spilling a simple ball which then led to them getting the thown in that led to the goal.
Shocking goalkeeping and he has cost us yet again.
If our defenders had been doing their jobs that lot wouldnt have ****ing scored, powderpuff **** as usual, hibs defence, the gift that keeps on gifting
lyonhibs
27-10-2024, 02:14 PM
He was, until the goal.
You're not serious are you? What can he do at the goal?
Under the high ball he gives me the fear and he's definitely not going to be the long term answer though
Hero76
27-10-2024, 02:17 PM
You're not serious are you? What can he do at the goal?
Under the high ball he gives me the fear and he's definitely not going to be the long term answer though
Mate he catches that simple ball there is no pressure on us he is at fault for the goal.
LaMotta
27-10-2024, 02:17 PM
So 2 phases of play earlier he made a mistake?
[emoji1787]
That's the one I didn't have a good view of so wasn't sure what happened
Either twat, blaming someone of multiple phases of play earlier earlier is a bit harsh imo
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If our defenders had been doing their jobs that lot wouldnt have ****ing scored, powderpuff **** as usual, hibs defence, the gift that keeps on gifting
FFS, yes of course our defenders should have done better, but we are talking about the goalies contribution on this thread and he has absolutely contributed to us dropping points again by flapping at a simple ball. Its a disgrace how bad he has been for us quite frankly.
Pedantic_Hibee
27-10-2024, 02:19 PM
He literally doesn’t even look like a goalkeeper.
Since90+2
27-10-2024, 02:20 PM
So 2 phases of play earlier he made a mistake?
[emoji1787]
That's the one I didn't have a good view of so wasn't sure what happened
Either twat, blaming someone of multiple phases of play earlier earlier is a bit harsh imo
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It might be 2 phases of play but if he just catches the ball like any competent goalkeeper would the whole flow of the game changes and the lead up to the goal doesn't happen.
He's absolutely brutal. That attempt to take the ball today was literally amateur level.
blackpoolhibs
27-10-2024, 02:20 PM
He also clattered his own players from a cross/corner missing the ball by a clear 4 foot which nearly resulted in a goal. He's murder, there's not a keeper there, Mick Miller would be better, and not as funny.
Trinity Hibee
27-10-2024, 02:21 PM
So 2 phases of play earlier he made a mistake?
[emoji1787]
That's the one I didn't have a good view of so wasn't sure what happened
Either that, blaming someone of multiple phases of play earlier earlier is a bit harsh imo
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Have to agree here. I think he’s crap but with 2 further phases of play after then you can’t blame him. For all we know he launches it up the park and hearts return it and score.
LaMotta
27-10-2024, 02:21 PM
So 2 phases of play earlier he made a mistake?
[emoji1787]
That's the one I didn't have a good view of so wasn't sure what happened
Either twat, blaming someone of multiple phases of play earlier earlier is a bit harsh imo
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BTW, its wild that you can laugh at our keeper giving away a corner that ultimately cost us a huge and vital win today.
The fact you didnt even notice it at the time shows how bad your game analysis is.
Pedantic_Hibee
27-10-2024, 02:21 PM
He didn’t even look clever at Shankland’s effort in the first half either. He saved it, yes, but it was a routine save that he made look anything but.
Bridge hibs
27-10-2024, 02:21 PM
FFS, yes of course our defenders should have done better, but we are talking about the goalies contribution on this thread and he has absolutely contributed to us dropping points again by flapping at a simple ball. Its a disgrace how bad he has been for us quite frankly.
FFS, he didnt grab the ball but he saved it and that lot got a corner, they didnt score from that corner did they ? Fast forward then our defence are ****ing handing the heres yer goal tickets out which that lot gladly accepted
Since90+2
27-10-2024, 02:22 PM
Have to agree here. I think he’s crap but with 2 further phases of play after then you can’t blame him. For all we know he launches it up the park and hearts return it and score.
Anything could happen at anytime in a game, we don't have a crystal ball.
What we do know though is that his ridiculously bad handling lead to the goal.
Trinity Hibee
27-10-2024, 02:22 PM
BTW, its wild that you can laugh at our keeper giving away a corner that ultimately cost us a huge and vital win today.
The fact you didnt even notice it at the time shows how bad your game analysis is.
They didn’t score from the corner though. Defending was brutal for the long throw and that is what cost us the goal.
Could also point to Triantis chance he hit straight at Gordon which would have made it 2-0
Trinity Hibee
27-10-2024, 02:23 PM
Anything could happen at anytime in a game, we don't have a crystal ball.
What we do know though is that his ridiculously bad handling lead to the goal.
As I say I don’t rate him but how far back to we go to blame someone for a goal? A corner and a long throw after and we are still blaming the keeper
LaMotta
27-10-2024, 02:23 PM
FFS, he didnt grab the ball but he saved it and that lot got a corner, they didnt score from that corner did they ? Fast forward then our defence are ****ing handing the heres yer goal tickets out which that lot gladly accepted
FFS how can you not just accept that it was shocking goalkeeping? (Again).
BoomtownHibees
27-10-2024, 02:24 PM
BTW, its wild that you can laugh at our keeper giving away a corner that ultimately cost us a huge and vital win today.
The fact you didnt even notice it at the time shows how bad your game analysis is.
They didn’t score from the corner tho. Of course he has to just catch the ball before that but to blame him for the goal is mental imo
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