Malky McKay

[AugustaHibs]

New sporting director.

[HendoDelivered]

New sporting director.

Confirmed?

[JohnM1875]

Oft, can't see this going down too well with a fair portion of the support

[Brooster]

I heard he was in for a few interviews right enough.

[JohnM1875]

Confirmed?

PLZ breaking story on Twitter

[SeanWilson]

New sporting director.

Wow. If the hierarchy wanted to polarise us beyond anything imaginable............... its happened.

[.Sean.]

Patiently waiting all the holier than thouers 😂😂

This thread will be gold

[Since452]

A good appointment to be honest.

[Hibs90]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/92S5gReZGnDgY/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952og32y6ax8sszzv2s6y8fvoicvp2sr dabuz357iiw&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

[04Sauzee]

Has this not been rumoured for ages? Trying to remember what home game he was at recently.

[LaMotta]

Patiently waiting all the holier than thouers 😂😂

This thread will be gold

Oh my god how boring is the debate going to be around his texts again:hilarious

[Paulie Walnuts]

I wouldn’t want him anywhere near the club. However, only on a football basis, I still wouldn’t want him anywhere near the club. He’s guff.

[BoomtownHibees]

Confirmed

[JohnM1875]

A good appointment to be honest.

Aye, agree

[NC1875]

I wouldn’t want him anywhere near the club. However, only on a football basis, I still wouldn’t want him anywhere near the club. He’s guff.

Your’e going to be disappointed then

[Chorley Hibee]

Just one afternoon without making an arse of yourselves.

That's all I ask, Hibs.

[H18 SFR]

Solid, solid appointment.

[Haymaker]

Wow. Just wow.

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[CraigHibee]

Patiently waiting all the holier than thouers 😂😂

This thread will be gold

i've got the popcorn out for this, could be a long night :greengrin

[Broken Gnome]

I'd much rather Hibs skipped and frolicked their way to glorious success without Malky MacKay.

I'm also fed up being absolutely ***** and having nothing to celebrate, so morals are out the window. Hope he does absolutely bloody amazingly.

[Brooster]

Patiently waiting all the holier than thouers 😂😂

This thread will be gold

Correct mate, you can almost predict the folk who will be foaming at the mouth.

[EdinMike]

I Twitter notifications came up on my phone “Hibernian can confirm the appointment of Malky MacKay…”

And I think I skipped a beat ! Not fussed either way with this one will probably make a good Sporting Director

[Superfurry72]

Oh my god how boring is the debate going to be around his texts again:hilarious


Why, do you not think this sort of thing matters?

[tonyrougier123]

Finally some common sense!!! Well done hibs.

[Coach Jon]

Would be happy with that :thumbsup:

[H18 SFR]

We are building a proper structure for success here.

[04Sauzee]

It's been confirmed btw

[Paulie Walnuts]

Your’e going to be disappointed then

I am indeed.

Wonder if he has any sort of relationship with McInnes?

[JohnM1875]

Weird that there was no mention of McDermott though. Unless McKay isn’t starting til June 1st as that’s when McDermotts contract ends

[Amazinsauzee]

Why, do you not think this sort of thing matters?

Nope - people can and should be allowed to learn from mistakes and change

[Tambo]

Welcome aboard Malky, hope you have a successful era.

[Pretty Boy]

He's a football man and will do the role well.

He was an absolute cretin with those texts but took steps to address the issues and was praised by Show Racism the Red Card, among others, for the rehab he undertook.

There are people working in Scottish football now who have done far worse than him. We either believe in rehabilitation or we don't. He gets a fair chance from me.

[ScottB]

Well, that’s the last nail in the coffin. Graham Rix in as head coach with him maybe?

Pathetic.

[MWHIBBIES]

Guys a ****ing welt.

Hopefully good at this job but wouldn't have been my first choice. Poor manager and those texts were vile.

[Just_Jimmy]

Sneaked in under the sacking of the manager.

Totally uninspiring appointment.

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[hibee-boys]

Solid appointment by the club, happy with that. Hopefully he knows what’s required in the coaching role. Welcome to the club Malky!👍

[HibeeSince85]

Welcome Malky. I've had a feeling it would be him since the game where he was in the directors box.

So if he is leading the recruitment of the new head coach, does that rule out McInnes who is more of a manager?

He certainly has plenty experience at the highest levels of the Scottish game.

[Willis1875]

Guys a ****ing welt.

Hopefully good at this job but wouldn't have been my first choice. Poor manager and those texts were vile.

He’s not been appointed as manager

[Heisenberg]

He seems to have done a good job at the SFA in a similar role so that’s good. Plenty Scottish football experience also a bonus.

Being a horrible bigot probably quite a big drawback right enough.

[NC1875]

Here we go 🍿

[Mikey_1875]

I like it. His recruitment at RC was fairly decent IIRC and will have a lot of contacts.

His history is exactly that imo and he should be allowed to move on and hopefully have a very successful career with us.

[MWHIBBIES]

He’s not been appointed as manager

Yes I know that. I've read the statement.

[thebausburst]

If he leads the recruitment of the new manager perhaps we’ll finally get someone who has a basic clue about Scottish football.

[BoomtownHibees]

Well, that’s the last nail in the coffin. Graham Rix in as head coach with him maybe?

Pathetic.

Steady

[JohnM1875]

If he leads the recruitment of the new manager perhaps we’ll finally get someone who has a basic clue about Scottish football.

Craig Levein after he relegates St Johnstone

[jeffers]

Why is he called Sporting Director ? Is there something else we are considering having a bash at in addition to football ?

[Ozyhibby]

I think it’s time to give him a chance. He has done the job well elsewhere and we need someone else in charge of the football side of the business.
He has done his rehab on the texts and I’ve no problem with him now working for Hibs.
All I really want now is success on the pitch. If he helps deliver then great.


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[Since452]

If he leads the recruitment of the new manager perhaps we’ll finally get someone who has a basic clue about Scottish football.

Yup. What a difference a couple of days can make. Feeling very optimistic again.

[Ozyhibby]

Why is he called Sporting Director ? Is there something else we are considering having a bash at in addition to football ?

Maybe it’s just to cover whatever it is we’ve been doing this season?[emoji6]


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[Del Boy]

Complete ********.

[ScottB]

Steady

Why not? Where’s the line that we’re apparently willing to let the past be the past?

Don’t want to hear a single word out of Hibs again on its supposed values and beliefs. Pathetic stuff.

[CropleyWasGod]

Why is he called Sporting Director ? Is there something else we are considering having a bash at in addition to football ?

.... in addition to?

Not sure where you got the idea there has been any of that. :greengrin

[Irish_Steve]

I can’t wait to boo him

[EdinMike]

I think a lot of people aren’t getting that he’s been appointed Sporting Director, NOT manager

[lyonhibs]

Oh my god how boring is the debate going to be around his texts again:hilarious

There's no debate to be had really. If ever the phrase "Hibs class" might have meant anything meaningful, this appointment pishes on that notion.

[BoomtownHibees]

Why not? Where’s the line that we’re apparently willing to let the past be the past?

Don’t want to hear a single word out of Hibs again on its supposed values and beliefs. Pathetic stuff.

Somewhere between being a paedo and no being a paedo is where I’d draw the line

[ScottB]

I think a lot of people aren’t getting that he’s been appointed Sporting Director, NOT manager

He could be appointed to sell tickets for all I care, he’s a ****.

[delbert]

I wouldn’t want him anywhere near the club. However, only on a football basis, I still wouldn’t want him anywhere near the club. He’s guff.

Interesting that Mackay brings out the ‘nowhere near my club’ brigade and yet Marvin Bartley seems to get a free pass despite have been convicted of utterly despicable behaviour towards his ex partner.

[NC1875]

Why not? Where’s the line that we’re apparently willing to let the past be the past?

Don’t want to hear a single word out of Hibs again on its supposed values and beliefs. Pathetic stuff.

Not a believer in second chances then I see ? 😯

[Centre Hawf]

Quite honestly, **** off Hibs.

[Groathillgrump]

If he does a great job I couldn't give a flying **** about his past.

[ScottB]

Somewhere between being a paedo and no being a paedo is where I’d draw the line

I’d draw it somewhere between being an alright person and being a racist myself but seems plenty are happy to look the other way on that score eh.

[EVENTUALLY]

Guys a ****ing welt.

Hopefully good at this job but wouldn't have been my first choice. Poor manager and those texts were vile.

Never ever thought I'd be agreeing with you on many topics but you are absolutely spot on.

[GordonHFC]

Let the fun commence

[LunasBoots]

I'm in favour of this, guy has a good eye for decent player, get why others aren't, but as long as we are successful on the pitch next season nobody is going to care

[ScottB]

Not a believer in second chances then I see ? 😯

Nope. He can get ******

[Mcbizz1998]

Happy with that. A sensible appointment at last.

[blackpoolhibs]

Strap in, set phasers tae malky. :faf:

[wookie70]

It is almost like we are being baited now. Besides the content of the text messages there are the reputational and commercial damage it now does to us my association. That alone would rule him out for me. Apart from that what are his credentials. His managerial record isn't that good, was he that good as Performance Director at the SFA. He has went from being sacked at Ross County to being in charge of everything football at Hibs. Utterly bizarre appointment albeit the post seems a good idea just not who we chose for it.

[Johnny Clash]

New sporting director. I’m into my sixth decade now and I can honestly say this is the first appointment I really dread. Not just coz of the stupid ignorant tweets but his entire attitude sucks. He was woeful at Ross County. In my opinion it’s THE worst decision my club has made!

[NC1875]

I’d draw it somewhere between being an alright person and being a racist myself but seems plenty are happy to look the other way on that score eh.

Players from all nationalities didn’t have a problem playing for him after his rehabilitation. But you’re holding a grudge.

I hope he does well and you begrudgingly accept that maybe his past should be left in the past.

[thorbs]

What the actual hell?

[Sioux]

He seems to have done a good job at the SFA in a similar role so that’s good. Plenty Scottish football experience also a bonus.

Being a horrible bigot probably quite a big drawback right enough.

In case you hadn't noticed, 70% of the population of Scotland are guilty of being bigots.

[LunasBoots]

A guy that has a record of identifying decent players, suppose that's not what we need.

[MelbourneHibees]

Horrible Racist

[Unseen work]

I mentioned last week I thought we’d get him after the rumours and then listening to a recent interview.

https://youtu.be/YWu9SLdYAUQ?si=popyfrGzZyHSWhKQ

Really good interview and at the time thinking he’d be a brilliant appointment

[Superfurry72]

Nope - people can and should be allowed to learn from mistakes and change

And you believe that's the case with very little evidence to go on?

Have you read the texts he sent? They were utterly vile.

The guy shouldn't be anywhere near the club in my opinion. And not only that, surely you can see why many would share this view, and understand why, so feel the the need to belittle them?

[tonyrougier123]

Goodstuff eh! 👍🏻But you could’ve put this in other thread bro.

[we are hibs]

It reeks of jobs for the boys if anything. "He has a good relationship with those on the board"


Yeah great. Cause that's what matters.

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[ScottB]

Players from all nationalities didn’t have a problem playing for him after his rehabilitation. But you’re holding a grudge.

I hope he does well and you begrudgingly accept that maybe his past should be left in the past.

I really couldn’t care less whether he’s any good at his job, nor does it have any relevance to him as a person.

I’m sure we’ve all worked for ***** to pay the bills.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Players from all nationalities didn’t have a problem playing for him after his rehabilitation. But you’re holding a grudge.

I hope he does well and you begrudgingly accept that maybe his past should be left in the past.

Players from all nationalities are being paid handsomely to work with him. I’d suspect most of them wouldn’t want to associate with him if it wasn’t for that.

[The Modfather]

Is it the same/similar to the role Steve Kean did? He came with a bit of pedigree but left without any quantifiable successes, not necessarily a criticism of him, but we’re so badly run appointing these people is the easy bit. What actual difference it will make is where I’m still sceptical.

[GloryGlory]

From the statement on the website (my emphasis in bold):

As Sporting Director, Mackay will lead and oversee Hibernian FC’s entire football operation, encompassing all departments from recruitment through to the Academy. He will also lead on the appointment of the next Head Coach.

So McDermott must be away and Ian Gordon taking a back seat in recruitment. Kensell also not directly involved in recruiting new Head Coach.

[GreenGray]

He's a football man and will do the role well.

He was an absolute cretin with those texts but took steps to address the issues and was praised by Show Racism the Red Card, among others, for the rehab he undertook.

There are people working in Scottish football now who have done far worse than him. We either believe in rehabilitation or we don't. He gets a fair chance from me.

Same, he done a good job at the Scottish FA.

He has apologised, took the punishment and addressed the issue. He is more than qualified for this role.

[Vault Boy]

It’s just a PR disaster.

What he said was cretinous, but by all accounts he’s genuinely worked on himself and tried to resolve whatever issues he had that led him to having those kind of beliefs - that’s fine. I don’t think people should be unable to rehabilitate or change their moral character, honestly, fair play to him for what seems to be an earnest journey of self improvement.

But, and it’s a big ****ing but, the club HAD to realise this would go down like a lead balloon, right? Surely to **** someone in the boardroom had enough perception to predict how this would be received by the majority of folk in Scottish football, let alone the Hibs fan? Malky simply can’t be so good at his job, so far ahead of any other candidate that he’s worth the baggage that comes with his appointment - particularly at a point where the club’s standing with its fan base couldn’t be more fractured.

Absolutely abysmal lack of foresight and self-awareness here. Regardless of whether the reaction is justified or not (I must say, I don’t think it is), we must have known it was coming. Jesus wept.

[hibee-boys]

Deary me, we really have some holier than thou characters on here. Not condoning his actions but if we/he can’t learn from mistakes and be able to right his wrongs it’s a pretty sad world we live in. From what I’ve heard he’s a decent bloke who has got on great with players and coaching staff, from all backgrounds, that have been happy to work alongside him for many years, including since the texts. I’ll take their word over keyboard warriors on here and social media.

[21.05.2016]

Absolute shocker of an appointment, a complete embarrassment. Guys a complete ********. Just shows that in Scottish Football you only have to do a half decent job once and you have a job for life. Not good enough at Ross County but the right man for us :rolleyes:

We’re becoming more and more of a joke every day.

[LaMotta]

Why, do you not think this sort of thing matters?

No it doesnt. It's been discussed a thousand times. People arguing over it again will achieve absolutely nothing.

He has been appointed, we have to hope it works out, nothing else for it.

[I'm_cabbaged]

Sneaked in under the sacking of the manager.

Totally uninspiring appointment.

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Sneaked in? Jesus wept

[KWJ]

Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Don't understand the good appointment posts even discounting his baggage. He's done a similar job once before has he not, with Scotland? When we were utter guff until he left.

Beyond that his extensive Scottish knowledge is getting sacked with Ross County and keeping them up by a bawhair against Partick last season on flukey pens.

[GreenGray]

Lets remember he held a role for four years at the Scottish FA, our countries football governing body ffs.

[GloryGlory]

Is it the same/similar to the role Steve Kean did? He came with a bit of pedigree but left without any quantifiable successes, not necessarily a criticism of him, but we’re so badly run appointing these people is the easy bit. What actual difference it will make is where I’m still sceptical.

No - wider ranging - Mackay in charge of ENTIRE football operation at the club, not just the Academy.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Same, he done a good job at the Scottish FA.

He has apologised, took the punishment and addressed the issue. He is more than qualified for this role.

What was good about the job he done? Genuine question, I’ve never heard of anything good at the SFA being credited to him.

[cameronw-hfc]

Never thought I'd say this but i wholeheartedly don't have any interest in hibs atm. I still love them, and always will, but with Mckay as Sporting Director, I cannot even pretend I'm okay with it.

Beyond disgusted at Hibs at the moment

[BoomtownHibees]

Absolute shocker of an appointment, a complete embarrassment. Guys a complete ********. Just shows that in Scottish Football you only have to do a half decent job once and you have a job for life. Not good enough at Ross County but the right man for us :rolleyes:

We’re becoming more and more of a joke every day.

He’s came to us in a completely different role to what he had at Ross County

[Hibernia&Alba]

Honestly, I would avoid the guy like the plague, but there is no point getting irate. It doesn’t matter what I think, which is he’s a crackpot. Oh well, it’s just one more thing Hibs have done to get my back up.

[GloryGlory]

Absolute shocker of an appointment, a complete embarrassment. Guys a complete ********. Just shows that in Scottish Football you only have to do a half decent job once and you have a job for life. Not good enough at Ross County but the right man for us :rolleyes:

We’re becoming more and more of a joke every day.

At the moment we can only dream of a half decent Head Coach.

[JohnM1875]

I'm now thinking of getting my ST refunded.

I'm serious.

You think Hibs haven't had players that have been total weapons over the years? Only difference is McKays comments were made public. What he said was really ****, no doubt, but he apologised and committed to getting help after it.

Appreciate everyone is different though and cancelling a ST won't be made lightly.

[overdrive]

He's a football man and will do the role well.

He was an absolute cretin with those texts but took steps to address the issues and was praised by Show Racism the Red Card, among others, for the rehab he undertook.

There are people working in Scottish football now who have done far worse than him. We either believe in rehabilitation or we don't. He gets a fair chance from me.

There's folk already at the club who have arguably done worse than him. One has regularly captained the team.

I think he'll do a decent job as Sporting Director. He seemed to do a decent job at the SFA in that sort of role (albeit club football will be different to the SFA stuff).

I can't help but call him Milky Mackay though. I was behind him at the till in Morrisons on Ferry Rd a couple of years ago. He was buying an insane amount of milk. Several massive bottles and pretty much all the types (full fat, semi-skimmed, skimmed, organic, non-organic). :greengrin

[LunasBoots]

Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Don't understand the good appointment posts even discounting his baggage. He's done a similar job once before has he not, with Scotland? When we were utter guff until he left.

Beyond that his extensive Scottish knowledge is getting sacked with Ross County and keeping them up by a bawhair against Partick last season on flukey pens.

Ross County had issues with getting players, while MacKay was there he identified a fair few good players who Hibs fans on this forum once said we should be looking at signing so can't be that bad.

[Stuart93]

I’m quite happy with this appointment tbh

Experienced Scottish heads are what we need in these roles imo

[Mon Dieu4]

This thread alone is more entertaining than anything the team have served up this season

[hibee-boys]

Interesting that Mackay brings out the ‘nowhere near my club’ brigade and yet Marvin Bartley seems to get a free pass despite have been convicted of utterly despicable behaviour towards his ex partner.

….and much lauded players who’ve been caught driving under the influence.

[MWHIBBIES]

I cannot in good conscience support my football club while this man is in charge.

NOTHING has ever made me consider not attending but this is going to do it.

**** off.

Just missing some Saudi investment.

[Smartie]

Ooft.

Not exactly a safe, non controversial option.

Not sure about this. Competent man and I like to believe in rehabilitation - a rehabilitation he's put a fair bit of work into. I also have an issue with someone being judged on something that was very much only ever intended to be a private matter. Imagine we were all judged by the worst thing that had appeared in our WhatsApp messages?

On the other hand though... well, where exactly do you start?

[weecounty hibby]

I for one have been an absolute prick in the past, some would say i still am. I have done sone really stupid things in the past and have also said sone pretty terrible things about people. I have had 2nd, 3rd, 3th chances. He has been a prick, he has said sine terrible things. He deserves a second chance. Make us a success and 99% will not care and that is a fact. Football fans generally will forgive anything if the person involved is a success

[B.H.F.C]

I actually think he could be a decent appointment for that position. Better qualified than McDermott for sure.

It’ll bring criticism from folk that can never move past anything. If we start winning games nobody will care. And really, we need to get to a point where nobody cares about folk in these roles anyway.

He’s held two senior positions in Scottish football over the last however many years so it’s not as if we’re taking some huge risk in being the first folk to appoint him.

[Since452]

Interesting that Mackay brings out the ‘nowhere near my club’ brigade and yet Marvin Bartley seems to get a free pass despite have been convicted of utterly despicable behaviour towards his ex partner.

And Neil Lennon who went after his mistress with a knife. Or our captain who was done for drink driving. All despicable. All have hopefully learned from their mistakes.

[Stairway 2 7]

Somewhere between being a paedo and no being a paedo is where I’d draw the line

Exactly absolutely ******g disgusting to compare the too. His texts were brutal pater but he's went through courses and shouldn't be unemployable for life due to them.

Hopefully he does a job I'd trust his managerial appointment over whoever has been making them so far

[B.H.F.C]

I cannot in good conscience support my football club while this man is in charge.

NOTHING has ever made me consider not attending but this is going to do it.

**** off.

Bye then.

[LunasBoots]

And Neil Lennon who went after his mistress with a knife. Or our captain who was done for drink driving. All despicable. All have hopefully learned from their mistakes.

We've also got players who are convicted of certain things, but nobody bats a eyelid

[The Modfather]

No - wider ranging - Mackay in charge of ENTIRE football operation at the club, not just the Academy.

Fair enough, had forgot Steve Keane’s remit was just the academy. Proof will be in the pudding with Mackay. I’m still sceptical the difference it will make though given the difficulty pinpointing the difference appointments like Kean and McDermott actually made.

[Caversham Green]

He's a football man and will do the role well.

He was an absolute cretin with those texts but took steps to address the issues and was praised by Show Racism the Red Card, among others, for the rehab he undertook.

There are people working in Scottish football now who have done far worse than him. We either believe in rehabilitation or we don't. He gets a fair chance from me.

Couldn't agree more.

If those texts hadn't come to light I suspect most would be very happy with the appointment. He's accepted responsibility for those texts (and suffered considerable loss as a result of them) and appears to have changed his ways - maybe he deserves a chance to prove that he has.

[DaveF]

I cannot in good conscience support my football club while this man is in charge.

NOTHING has ever made me consider not attending but this is going to do it.

**** off.

Happy to have a season ticket while a convicted drink driver is out captain but toys out the pram over Mackay. Both have repented and apologised.

No double standards at all....

[Paulie Walnuts]

So does anyone actually know what good he done at the SFA?

Lots of folk saying he done a good job, nobody seems to be able to elaborate.. that’s not to say he didn’t. I certainly can’t say I know of any real success that can be put down to him though..

[cameronw-hfc]

Ooft.

Not exactly a safe, non controversial option.

Not sure about this. Competent man and I like to believe in rehabilitation - a rehabilitation he's put a fair bit of work into. I also have an issue with someone being judged on something that was very much only ever intended to be a private matter. Imagine we were all judged by the worst thing that had appeared in our WhatsApp messages?

On the other hand though... well, where exactly do you start?

I'd argue if your WhatsApps resemble his, then you only have yourself to blame for them being leaked.

[TrinityHFC]

Wow. If the hierarchy wanted to polarise us beyond anything imaginable............... its happened.

Really? I think most will just let him get on with his job.

[Allant1981]

Folk moaning about this appointment but cheer on guys that decided to drink drive, have previously cheered on guys who were up in court for threatening and pestering ex partners, previously cheered on a guy who had links to the IRA and drug dealing.

[GreenGray]

What was good about the job he done? Genuine question, I’ve never heard of anything good at the SFA being credited to him.

He was credited improving pathways for younger players.

Believe he was involved in setting up the JD performance centre that helped bring through Gilmour and Patterson.


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[Hibernia&Alba]

Bye then.

Let’s not be dismissive of other fans. We can’t afford to lose supporters.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He was credited improving pathways for younger players.

Believe he was involved in setting up the JD performance centre that helped bring through Gilmour and Patterson.


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Cheers :aok: not sure it’s the roaring success people are making it out to be.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Well this is fun.

[TrinityHFC]

Bye then.

Aye

[Stuart93]

If he makes a decent appointment for manager and we recruit well over the summer, I reckon people will quickly forget about his “baggage”

[Superfurry72]

No it doesnt. It's been discussed a thousand times. People arguing over it again will achieve absolutely nothing.

He has been appointed, we have to hope it works out, nothing else for it.


That's a justification, is it? Saying it's been discussed a thousand times. Why does that mean as a fan I have to accept it?

How would you feel if we say, signed David Goodwillie? Would you be saying the same then?

[JohnM1875]

If he makes a decent appointment for manager and we recruit well over the summer, I reckon people will quickly forget about his “baggage”

Aye totally agree.

[Del Boy]

Anyone that thinks he’s changed his ways is sadly mistaken.

[thorbs]

Goodstuff eh! 👍🏻But you could’ve put this in other thread bro.

Refreshed the page and didn't see it. Created this one then as soon as I posted the other one showed up. Please delete it as no need for two obviously

[DaveF]

Let’s not be dismissive of other fans. We can’t afford to lose supporters.

You can when their point of view is so clearly easy to dismiss.

[Onceinawhile]

Failing at Ross county somehow qualifies you for leading the entirety of the football department at hibs?

That's before the bad publicity and just general nastiness. Yuck.

[LunasBoots]

If he makes a decent appointment for manager and we recruit well over the summer, I reckon people will quickly forget about his “baggage”

100 percent

[Unseen work]

What was good about the job he done? Genuine question, I’ve never heard of anything good at the SFA being credited to him.

https://youtu.be/YWu9SLdYAUQ?si=popyfrGzZyHSWhKQ

Highly reccomend watching that.

I think he’ll be a very good appointment.

[FastEddieFelson]

Block 7 must have seen it coming.

[Pretty Boy]

In the heirarchy of erseholery I'd probably place moronic racist and misogynist texts a wee bit below drink driving (you know that thing that leads to people being injured or killed) or threatening a woman with violence repeatedly.

Most people on this board seem to have no issue with us having employed and continuing to employ people convicted of the latter two offence but the former is where the line is.

I'm not mad keen on any of those behaviours but I struggle to comprehend someone saying 'aye domestic abuse and drink driving deserves a second chance but a boy being a racist doesn't'. Fair enough is you think none of those behaviours are acceptable but if one deserves a second chance then surely they all do?

[LaMotta]

On purely the footballing aspect of this I have to say I feel far more positive about this appointment than I have about the previous three managers at the time of their appointment. Obviously he isn't the manager but I already think we will be in a far better place footballing wise this time next year.

[GloryGlory]

Really? I think most will just let him get on with his job.

Exactly. He'll be judged on his recruitment of a new Head Coach and players.

[DaveF]

In the heirarchy of erseholery I'd probably place moronic racist and misogynist texts a wee bit below drink driving (you know that thing that leads to people being injured or killed) or threatening a woman with violence repeatedly.

Most people on this board seem to have no issue with us having employed and continuing to employ people convicted of the latter two offence but the former is where the line is.

I'm not mad keen on any of those behaviours but I struggle to comprehend someone saying 'aye domestic abuse and drink driving deserves a second chance but a boy being a racist doesn't'. Fair enough is you think none of those behaviours are acceptable but if one deserves a second chance then surely they all do?

Totally agree. Great post.

[Heisenberg]

I cannot in good conscience support my football club while this man is in charge.

NOTHING has ever made me consider not attending but this is going to do it.

**** off.

Did you also stop supporting Scotland when he was at the SFA? Did you stop supporting Scotland when Declan Gallagher was playing centre half? What about Newell and Boyle drink driving? Did you stop supporting Hibs?

If you did then fair enough, if not then your stance makes little sense.

[Just_Jimmy]

Sneaked in? Jesus weptAnnounced a few hours after they sack the management team whilst all the chat is exactly that.

Regardless of your take, its an absolute pathetic appointment.

Totally tone deaf, but then I'd expect nothing else for hibs these days.

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[scuttle]

It was only a few weeks ago we were putting statements out about enough is enough on sectarianism, then we go and appoint someone who has a racist past. You couldn't make it up ,this club is a shambles at the moment

[BoomtownHibees]

That's a justification, is it? Saying it's been discussed a thousand times. Why does that mean as a fan I have to accept it?

How would you feel if we say, signed David Goodwillie? Would you be saying the same then?

So we’ve now had him compared to a paedo in Rix and now an alleged rapist.

What’s your thoughts on Joe Newell and Martin Boyle?

[hibby rae]

Anyone that thinks he’s changed his ways is sadly mistaken.

I remember his non-apology, complete lack of contrition, "I've been on courses now so probably know more about it than most".

Most don't need to go on the course in the first place though eh.

Couldn't care less about his abilities I'm pretty disgusted by this appointment.

[Since452]

On purely the footballing aspect of this I have to say I feel far more positive about this appointment than I have about the previous three managers at the time of their appointment. Obviously he isn't the manager but I already think we will be in a far better place footballing wise this time next year.

Yup. Good mates with McInnes too so you never know. Actually think it's the most prudent decision Hibs have made since Ross left.

[bod]

Anyone care to PM me what MM has said that’s got everyone upset ?
Doubt it’ll be allowed on the board if it’s bad

[The Modfather]

Our best centre back.

[Hibs90]

Putting aside the 'baggage'...

This is a good appointment how exactly?

[DaveF]

It was only a few weeks ago we were putting statements out about enough is enough on sectarianism, then we go and appoint someone who has a racist past. You couldn't make it up ,this club is a shambles at the moment

FFS, he was guilty of some pitiful stuff but I'm willing to be it's not worse than a lost of stuff that most people on here have seen on WhatsApp groups in the past. And probably laughed at it too.

[Smartie]

I'd argue if your WhatsApps resemble his, then you only have yourself to blame for them being leaked.

A fair point, well made.

However... how long ago was it that Easter Road was rocking to certain songs about Paul Hartley?

Would that happen now?

Are the people who took part in that singing allowed to evolve, change their opinions and understand that that sort of thing is no longer acceptable, and why?

If they're afforded that privilege then why not MacKay?

[BoomtownHibees]

Anyone care to PM me what MM has said that’s got everyone upset ?
Doubt it’ll be allowed on the board if it’s bad

Easy to find using Google

[HendoDelivered]

Wonder if the club will end up sacking this off with all the backlash it’s caused?

[Groathillgrump]

Anyone that thinks he’s changed his ways is sadly mistaken.

Know him personally, do you?

[heretoday]

Very good appointment. He knows his football.

[LaMotta]

That's a justification, is it? Saying it's been discussed a thousand times. Why does that mean as a fan I have to accept it?

How would you feel if we say, signed David Goodwillie? Would you be saying the same then?

Yes I would. Neither MM or DG have been convicted of anything in a criminal court. But lets not get into that, its pointless.

You as a fan do have to accept that Mackay has been appointed because you dont get to make the decisons at the club. What alternative do you have?

[DaveF]

I don't give Scotland in excess of £700 of my money a year.

You will be talking it back from the club as well so what are you moaning about? Maybe donate it to a drink drive charity given you don't seem overly fussed that we have a player who could have done some real damage.

[wookie70]

Couldn't agree more.

If those texts hadn't come to light I suspect most would be very happy with the appointment. He's accepted responsibility for those texts (and suffered considerable loss as a result of them) and appears to have changed his ways - maybe he deserves a chance to prove that he has.

If the texts hadn't have happened I would be asking what has he done to deserve this position. With the baggage I'm thinking the club has lost its marbles. Players or sponsors who are wavering about signing on the dotted line just got a ready made excuse to back out. Commercially it is a stupid appointment. Footballing wise it doesn't make much sense to me as I can't see why he would be a suitable candidate. Lots of good appointment posts on this thread but struggling to see any evidence of why it is a good appointment.

[Hibees1973]

Reputation of the club goes from bad to worse.

Brings baggage we can do without.

Astonishing.

[Heisenberg]

I don't give Scotland in excess of £700 of my money a year.

Newell and Boyle drink driving not do it for you? Fair play. Find it a bit strange you’ll happily overlook it if you don’t need to fork out any cash.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Anyone care to PM me what MM has said that’s got everyone upset ?
Doubt it’ll be allowed on the board if it’s bad

https://images.app.goo.gl/rsnLyuSDg3WaTTHp8

I don’t see why it wouldn’t be allowed but apologies admin if it isn’t.

[Real Emerald]

Maybe get Jim Davidson as the new stadium announcer and we’d be sorted eh. We couldn’t even get one day without being a laughing stock. Why???

[KWJ]

He was credited improving pathways for younger players.

Believe he was involved in setting up the JD performance centre that helped bring through Gilmour and Patterson.


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He took the job in 2016 when Gilmour was already highly thought of at Rangers and had been within the programme that Mark Wotte would've set up. He apparently told Gilmour he should stay at Rangers. So, yeah. Not exactly great point scoring for MM there.

[Waxy]

I’ve noticed people aren’t as tolerant as they used to be on here.

[Ozyhibby]

Yup. Good mates with McInnes too so you never know. Actually think it's the most prudent decision Hibs have made since Ross left.

That would be the perfect way to start the job.


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[allezsauzee]

Hopefully he has a good rapport with Lenny :wink:

[Centre Hawf]

Consider me done. If the rest of you want to enjoy a football team built by a bigot then be my guest, I won't stop you.

[Doh Rae Me]

Good appointment as far as I'm concerned.
Can't wait till he parades Neil Lennon as manager.
This place may implode.

[wookie70]

Why is he called Sporting Director ? Is there something else we are considering having a bash at in addition to football ? Copying Hearts maybe. I thought that as well, why not Football Director

[GreenGray]

He took the job in 2016 when Gilmour was already highly thought of at Rangers and had been within the programme that Mark Wotte would've set up. He apparently told Gilmour he should stay at Rangers. So, yeah. Not exactly great point scoring for MM there.

You’re right, my bad. It was set up earlier.

He was certainly behind improving after care for youth players though.


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[Unseen work]

Reputation of the club goes from bad to worse.

Brings baggage we can do without.

Astonishing.

Only to fans

I think those in football will think alot better of us with someone like Mackay in charge.

Mcinnes imo for example wouldn’t have touched us before as we’re a mess and he wouldn’t trust us. I now think Mcinnes would have more trust in Mackay and that good decisions would be made - he’s not going to sign young guys from Rainbow FC or force signings on people. He’ll be very logical and know what works in Scottish football.

He also has a lot of contacts in the game and his recruitment at Ross county was very good - Harry Clarke, Yan Dhanda, Regan Charles Cook, Joseph Hungbo etc

[Hibernia&Alba]

Maybe get Jim Davidson as the new stadium announcer and we’d be sorted eh. We couldn’t even get one day without being a laughing stock. Why???

Aye, I just feel tired with Hibs at the moment, beaten down by everything. If it isn’t one thing it’s another. I don’t even have the energy to get upset. Just let them do what they want and hope some good comes of it.

[MKHIBEE]

I'm now thinking of getting my ST refunded.

I'm serious.

I’m not thinking of it, I’m doing it.

[Pretty Boy]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/show-racism-the-red-card-back-malky-mackay-hiring-1460200

This article is from when MacKay was appointed to his SFA role and has statements from both Show Racism the Red Card and Kick it Out wishing him well and commenting on the work he undertook to improve himself.

[easty]

I wouldn’t want him as manager, cos he was ***** at Ross County.

He might be a good fit for this job, but how’s it measured? I dinnae even really know what he’s meant to do day to day. What’s he here to improve, specifically? What’s different between this and McDermotts role?

Do other SPL sides have people in this role?

The “he’s a racist thing”, I’d be absolutely mortified if someone was to go through my WhatsApp history and pull out some of the things I’ve said. It doesn’t excuse it at all, but I’d imagine most folk have sent things that are over the line on there.

[LeithMike]

Leaving aside the other stuff it seems a fairly big name/character to have in that role which makes me think the role of manager is somewhat diminished and there is a very low chance of a big name/character in that role such as Derek McInnes.

Could be wrong but just doesn’t make sense.

I’m starting to hate Hibs.


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[Trinity Hibee]

So from what I’m reading, from a football side this looks like quite a positive appointment?

[Stuart93]

I’m guessing those of you who’re getting ST refunds aren’t able to do it without telling Hibs.net?

[BoomtownHibees]

Consider me done. If the rest of you want to enjoy a football team built by a bigot then be my guest, I won't stop you.

Ok thanks

[Callum_62]

While I didn't want Mackay as manager but not totally against this appointment

Alot of experience in "Scottish Football" and I dont think he done a bad job at Ross County at all

Always seemed to have the odd signing that I wouldn't have minded at us

Does say he will lead on the nee Head coach but doesn't start until June

Surely we aren't putting our process on hold for 2 weeks?

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[Paulie Walnuts]

So basically, he established good after care for kids at the SFA and has a wealth of contacts (why does he have an amount of contacts worth mentioning? :confused: his career history would suggest a likely very average amount of contacts).

Trying to keep this solely to football, I’m struggling to see why folk are so happy with the appointment.

[Real Emerald]

Only to fans

I think those in football will think alot better of us with someone like Mackay in charge.

Mcinnes imo for example wouldn’t have touched us before as we’re a mess and he wouldn’t trust us. I now think Mcinnes would have more trust in Mackay and that good decisions would be made - he’s not going to sign young guys from Rainbow FC or force signings on people. He’ll be very logical and know what works in Scottish football.

He also has a lot of contacts in the game and his recruitment at Ross county was very good - Harry Clarke, Yan Dhanda, Regan Charles Cook, Joseph Hungbo etc

Hope you’re right with this, we could be doing without the baggage he comes with though.

[TheMentalHibees]

I’d be curious to see how many of the people in here defending him would’ve done so a few hours ago. We shouldn’t excuse awful behaviour because someone is affiliated with us. Anyone working for the club represents us and tells the world what our values are. Do people seriously think that someone who sent all those messages, over a long period of time so hardly a lapse in judgement, could be so easily rehabilitated by some courses? And are we so confident of it that we’re willing for the clubs name to be dragged through the mud?


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[Amazinsauzee]

And you believe that's the case with very little evidence to go on?

Have you read the texts he sent? They were utterly vile.

The guy shouldn't be anywhere near the club in my opinion. And not only that, surely you can see why many would share this view, and understand why, so feel the the need to belittle them?

Have you any evidence this isn’t the case?

The texts were horrendous but he has been employed by Scotland FA and Ross County since then, I imagine if he hadn’t changed, them and now Hibs wouldn’t have employed him

[RMQ1967]

FFS, he was guilty of some pitiful stuff but I'm willing to be it's not worse than a lost of stuff that most people on here have seen on WhatsApp groups in the past. And probably laughed at it too.

Exactly this - I'd love to be able to see the private messages of some of those posting these messages of disgust. A look back through these & postings about opposition fans would likely expose a large dose of hypocrisy.

People need to grow up and calm down - not everything written is a reflection of reality. You can make comments & laugh & jokes in poor taste without being a racist or bigot.

[J-C]

All the same posters who seem to hate all things Hibs also hate appointment, no surprised really.

[SlickShoes]

Even putting aside his racism and bigotry from a purely football standpoint this is a terrible appointment, he is a failed Ross County manager.

[Hibees1973]

No - wider ranging - Mackay in charge of ENTIRE football operation at the club, not just the Academy.

Exactly.

He's gone from being sacked at Ross County to head of our entire football operation.

Incredible.

[Trinity Hibee]

Even putting aside his racism and bigotry from a purely football standpoint this is a terrible appointment, he is a failed Ross County manager.

This a different role from being a manager

[Johnny_Leith]

I’m guessing those of you who’re getting ST refunds aren’t able to do it without telling Hibs.net?

Should they not make people aware they feel strongly about a major appointment at the club?

[SlickShoes]

Exactly this - I'd love to be able to see the private messages of some of those posting these messages of disgust. A look back through these & postings about opposition fans would likely expose a large dose of hypocrisy.

People need to grow up and calm down - not everything written is a reflection of reality. You can make comments & laugh & jokes in poor taste without being a racist or bigot.

Sounds like something a racist would say to make themselves feel better

[Unseen work]

Even putting aside his racism and bigotry from a purely football standpoint this is a terrible appointment, he is a failed Ross County manager.

Good thing he’s not manager then isn’t it.

[BoomtownHibees]

Even putting aside his racism and bigotry from a purely football standpoint this is a terrible appointment, he is a failed Ross County manager.

Just as well he won’t be our manager then

[SlickShoes]

This a different role from being a manager

It is, he’s in charge of the entire football department so it’s even worse.

[Stuart93]

All the same posters who seem to hate all things Hibs also hate appointment, no surprised really.

You reckon? I’ve seen quite a mix tbh

[KWJ]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/show-racism-the-red-card-back-malky-mackay-hiring-1460200

This article is from when MacKay was appointed to his SFA role and has statements from both Show Racism the Red Card and Kick it Out wishing him well and commenting on the work he undertook to improve himself.

This is a fair shout, he's shown remorse and is entitled to carry on with his career. A club like Ross County was probably a good shout for him to try and rebuild. But ultimately he failed there and has been out of work for months on the back of it. Surely there are plenty others out there that could've done this role, with a similar lack of success, and without any baggage.

[Victor]

I’m not thinking of it, I’m doing it.

Good luck with that.

[SeanWilson]

On purely the footballing aspect of this I have to say I feel far more positive about this appointment than I have about the previous three managers at the time of their appointment. Obviously he isn't the manager but I already think we will be in a far better place footballing wise this time next year.

Why though? he's recently been sacked as the manager of f'n Ross County............. How on earth does that put you in the shop window for running the entire football operation at hibs?

He's lived off the coat tails of an OK time with Cardiff where he royally ruined himself for a long long time now.

Just a bizarre appointment and one i find even more bizarre to have been released today. I am not sure anyone at hibs is capable of reading the room.

[Superfurry72]

Yes I would. Neither MM or DG have been convicted of anything in a criminal court. But lets not get into that, its pointless.

You as a fan do have to accept that Mackay has been appointed because you dont get to make the decisons at the club. What alternative do you have?


That's a ridiculous argument. When have I said I should be involved in the decisions? But as a fan, I am entitled to be extremely unhappy about them. Are you saying you should just accept every decision Hibs make whether you agree with it or not?

And what does Mackay not having a criminal conviction have to do with anything? He admitted sending those messages, there's no grey area there. Also, Goodwillie was found guilty by a senior judge, so can legally be called a rapist, but I was just using him to make a point regarding how differently we see things. You're saying it would be OK for Hibs to sign a rapist. We're never going to find common ground here.

The fact we're even debating this shows what a divisive appointment this is. I'd possibly even understand it a bit more if he had an incredible track record. But he doesn't.

[BoomtownHibees]

I’m not thinking of it, I’m doing it.

Hope they tell you to bolt

[Blaster]

Let’s be honest he can’t be any worse than those before him. Good luck to him, straight in at the deep end

[Unseen work]

Hope you’re right with this, we could be doing without the baggage he comes with though.

I think it’s one of those the baggage will just be the reaction to the appointment.

I can’t remember much being said about him at Ross county out with the appointment

[wookie70]

He was certainly behind improving after care for youth players though.


What is after care for youth players. Is that if they have been let go by clubs. No doubt I would want to see that improve and well done if he did do that but not sure it matters in terms of teh huge role he has taken on.

[Trinity Hibee]

I think it’s one of those the baggage will just be the reaction to the appointment.

I can’t remember much being said about him at Ross county out with the appointment

Exactly. All the outrage will calm in a couple of days when we announce mcinnes

[K-Zazu]

Even putting aside his racism and bigotry from a purely football standpoint this is a terrible appointment, he is a failed Ross County manager.

But he’s not going to be a manager at Hibs is he?

[Johnny_Leith]

Hope they tell you to bolt

Why would you hope that?

[Paulie Walnuts]

What is after care for youth players. Is that if they have been let go by clubs. No doubt I would want to see that improve and well done if he did do that but not sure it matters in terms of teh huge role he has taken on.

:agree:

From a purely footballing POV I’m just not seeing what everyone else is seeing.

[BoomtownHibees]

Why would you hope that?

Why not? Why should anyone be entitled to a refund because they don’t like someone the club has employed?

[TrinityHFC]

Why though? he's recently been sacked as the manager of f'n Ross County............. How on earth does that put you in the shop window for running the entire football operation at hibs?

He's lived off the coat tails of an OK time with Cardiff where he royally ruined himself for a long long time now.

Just a bizarre appointment and one i find even more bizarre to have been released today. I am not sure anyone at hibs is capable of reading the room.

Anyone who has been around long enough to be considered for a role like this has had failures and been sacked. I think he will be a good solution to the ownership not running a football dept properly.

[SlickShoes]

But he’s not going to be a manager at Hibs is he?

Does that automatically make it a good appointment? He’s done nothing since Cardiff

[Since452]

Why though? he's recently been sacked as the manager of f'n Ross County............. How on earth does that put you in the shop window for running the entire football operation at hibs?

He's lived off the coat tails of an OK time with Cardiff where he royally ruined himself for a long long time now.

Just a bizarre appointment and one i find even more bizarre to have been released today. I am not sure anyone at hibs is capable of reading the room.

We're not going to prise away a manager at another club to run our whole football department. He actually did a reasonable job on the whole at RC and has a wealth of experience.

[Trinity Hibee]

Why not? Why should anyone be entitled to a refund because they don’t like someone the club has employed?

As others have said we are quite happy to cheer on drink drivers etc. folk need to stop being so outraged

[Up-the-slope]

I’ve noticed people aren’t as tolerant as they used to be on here.
:tee hee:

[Kojock]

Why, do you not think this sort of thing matters?

10 years ago a man admitted sending two inappropriate one line text messages to a mate. He apologised for causing any offence and attended a diversity training course.

I wonder how many of the holier than thou Hibs fans have never said anything offensive or inappropriate in their lifetime. Folk make mistakes and the important thing is to learn from those mistakes and become a better person. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

[SlickShoes]

Anyone who has been around long enough to be considered for a role like this has had failures and been sacked. I think he will be a good solution to the ownership not running a football dept properly.

So what big positive achievements does he have?

[Real Emerald]

I think it’s one of those the baggage will just be the reaction to the appointment.

I can’t remember much being said about him at Ross county out with the appointment

But no one really cares that much about Ross County. I can see the fans of other clubs having a field because he’s now at Hibs. We just could be doing without this at the moment.

[TrinityHFC]

Exactly. All the outrage will calm in a couple of days when we announce mcinnes

He doesn’t start work for us until June and he is leading on appointing a new head coach. We won’t be announcing anyone in the next few days for that role.

[davhibby]

So does anyone actually know what good he done at the SFA?

Lots of folk saying he done a good job, nobody seems to be able to elaborate.. that’s not to say he didn’t. I certainly can’t say I know of any real success that can be put down to him though..

All I can think of is that he would have been involved in appointing McLeish as manager. Which is probably the worst appointment of the last 20 years so great job indeed.

[sauzee1989]

Great footballing appointment. Too many fans knickers in a twist. He made mistakes and joked about some risky subjects which most people on here will have done in past. He’s admitted his mistakes and wasn’t charged with anything. Move on.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

It’s almost as if Hibs, having become a bit of a laughing stock lately, have doubled down on this, grown an almighty set of balls, unveiled Malky McKay and said “let’s have it then”.

I’ve sent far worse text messages than he has over the years. Let’s see what he can do.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

He doesn’t start work for us until June and he is leading on appointing a new head coach. We won’t be announcing anyone in the next few days for that role.

It says “officially start until 1st June”. I suspect he’s been working away for a wee while at Hibs already.

[Hibees1973]

Why though? he's recently been sacked as the manager of f'n Ross County............. How on earth does that put you in the shop window for running the entire football operation at hibs?

He's lived off the coat tails of an OK time with Cardiff where he royally ruined himself for a long long time now.

Just a bizarre appointment and one i find even more bizarre to have been released today. I am not sure anyone at hibs is capable of reading the room.

For the last three years it's clear they have not been reading any room.

[Since452]

Great footballing appointment. Too many fans knickers in a twist. He made mistakes and joked about some risky subjects which most people on here will have done in past. He’s admitted his mistakes and wasn’t charged with anything. Move on.

Couldn't agree more

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

10 years ago a man admitted sending two inappropriate one line text messages to a mate. He apologised for causing any offence and attended a diversity training.

I wonder how many of the holier than thou Hibs fans have never said anything offensive or inappropriate in their lifetime. Folk make mistakes and the important thing is to learn from those mistakes and become a better person. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

This...far too many hypocrites on here.

[Chorley Hibee]

Just stunned that the board has decided that this is the best possible appointment for the club.

In terms of getting the support back onside, this was the last thing we needed.

Even outside of his past, was this genuinely the best option available to us? I'm yet to see any tangible evidence presented of his success in the role.

Surely they knew how this would go down?

Surely there were other options without this baggage and at least as qualified for the role?

I just despair.

[He's here!]

Wonder if Monty was told the club had decided to bring Mackay in to help him and he didn't fancy that set-up? Hence his departure - he seemed relatively confident he was staying put on Sunday.

[Unseen work]

Does that automatically make it a good appointment? He’s done nothing since Cardiff

He has - for the SFA which will be one of the main reasons he got the job.

People can think he’s a good or bad appointment, but it seems some just aren’t bothering looking at what he’s done or listening to interviews etc. Just basing it on his last few months at County.

[TrinityHFC]

Wonder if Monty was told the club had decided to bring Mackay in to help him and he didn't fancy that set-up? Hence his departure - he seemed relatively confident he was staying put on Sunday.

He was sacked.

[JohnM1875]

Just stunned that the board has decided that this is the best possible appointment for the club.

In terms of getting the support back onside, this was the last thing we needed.

Even outside of his past, was this genuinely the best option available to us? I'm yet to see any tangible evidence presented of his success in the role.

Surely they knew how this would go down?

Surely there were other options without this baggage and at least as qualified for the role?

I just despair.

I'm guessing they think it's the best way to get success on the park so it'll be the best way to get most fans back onside in the long run.

[GreenGray]

What is after care for youth players. Is that if they have been let go by clubs. No doubt I would want to see that improve and well done if he did do that but not sure it matters in terms of teh huge role he has taken on.

Fair enough if that’s your opinion. I believe he will be good.

He has premier league experience but is in the unique position of being hugely knowledgable in Scottish football, there isn’t many like that out there.

I’d be interested to hear who people think we should have appointed instead.


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[Lendo]

10 years ago a man admitted sending two inappropriate one line text messages to a mate. He apologised for causing any offence and attended a diversity training course.

I wonder how many of the holier than thou Hibs fans have never said anything offensive or inappropriate in their lifetime. Folk make mistakes and the important thing is to learn from those mistakes and become a better person. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

So to be considered “holier than thou” you just need to not be a racist anti-Semite?

[04Sauzee]

Wonder if Monty was told the club had decided to bring Mackay in to help him and he didn't fancy that set-up? Hence his departure - he seemed relatively confident he was staying put on Sunday.

I probably wouldn't spend to much time wondering about that scenario tbh.

[Doh Rae Me]

Do any of the appalled on here find Frankie Boyle funny?

[One Day Soon]

The text messages he was involved with previously are absolutely rancid. I'm aware of some of them but I'm not clear which he sent and which he received. We are talking racism, homophobia and sexism.

This leaves me pretty conflicted. On the one hand WTF are Hibs doing going for someone like that? On the other hand if he has recanted and is a changed man then it is hard not to believe in second chances. David Martindale being a class leader in the rehabilitation stakes.

So all of that is an issue right away before we even get to 'is he the best guy for the job' in skills set and experience terms.

Only time will tell I suppose but I'd really know to know whose decision this was...


In completely unrelated news I had a brief look for Ben Kensell on twitter this afternoon. Now there's someone who needs a fresh start elsewhere.

[Exuberance1875]

Another horror show of an appointment from Hibernian FC, par for the course now.

Clubs in absolute pieces and going to progress nowhere. So disillusioned, zero connection with the fans.

Thought we had fan representation on the board?

[Bristolhibby]

Wonder if Monty was told the club had decided to bring Mackay in to help him and he didn't fancy that set-up? Hence his departure - he seemed relatively confident he was staying put on Sunday.

TBF most managers say they are safe until they aren’t.

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[Johnny_Leith]

Why not? Why should anyone be entitled to a refund because they don’t like someone the club has employed?

It's that posters money, should be not be entitled to it back if he doesn't fancy a season ticket?

[Superfurry72]

10 years ago a man admitted sending two inappropriate one line text messages to a mate. He apologised for causing any offence and attended a diversity training course.

I wonder how many of the holier than thou Hibs fans have never said anything offensive or inappropriate in their lifetime. Folk make mistakes and the important thing is to learn from those mistakes and become a better person. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.


It was more than two, but that aside why does objecting to racist, homophobic and sexist comments make you "holier than thou"?

[Stairway 2 7]

The loud minority will want a ticket if we get to the final next year.

He'll simply by judged on results by almost all. I'm not sure he'll do that job but I'll take any change of direction I can get just now

[Callum_62]

Can't wait until we unveil Martindale as head coach

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[GreenPJ]

He was sacked.

The vast majority of managers are.

[Corstorphine Hibby]

I’m not thinking of it, I’m doing it.

What seat number/stand are you?

[buktapurple79]

Im about ****ing done - this is our Graeme Rix moment. This is Hibernian FC, club of the people, we have social and cultural and ethical values that stand us above in Scottish fitbaw - what the AF? Season ticket renewal :bye:

[stoneyburn hibs]

Nothing is certain but it seems a good appointment.
The faux outrage is quite pathetic.

[SlickShoes]

He has - for the SFA which will be one of the main reasons he got the job.

People can think he’s a good or bad appointment, but it seems some just aren’t bothering looking at what he’s done or listening to interviews etc. Just basing it on his last few months at County.

What did he do for the SFA that was brilliant?

[flash]

Happy with that.

I have accepted drink drivers, stalkers and various other offenders at Hibs so I reckon I can cope with his misdemeanours particularly when he has taken steps to address the issue.

[tonyrougier123]

So basically, he established good after care for kids at the SFA and has a wealth of contacts (why does he have an amount of contacts worth mentioning? :confused: his career history would suggest a likely very average amount of contacts).

Trying to keep this solely to football, I’m struggling to see why folk are so happy with the appointment.

Maybe cause it annoys you 😉

[Stokesy's on fire]

Happy with that.

I have accepted drink drivers, stalkers and various other offenders at Hibs so I reckon I can cope with his misdemeanours particularly when he has taken steps to address the issue.


What steps did he take? Out of interest. And think this is a good appointment by the club.

[Pretty Boy]

This is a fair shout, he's shown remorse and is entitled to carry on with his career. A club like Ross County was probably a good shout for him to try and rebuild. But ultimately he failed there and has been out of work for months on the back of it. Surely there are plenty others out there that could've done this role, with a similar lack of success, and without any baggage.

I suppose if Hibs felt he was the outstanding candidate (and I'm not saying that is a ringing endorsement given our recent track record) then they are happy to take the flak over the baggage.

Personally I just take people as I find them. I met MM a couple of times when he his laddie was at Spartans and he seemed a pleasant enough guy. Loved his football and was happy to have a blether and pass on wee bits of advice to the young lads.

I've got a past, I'm sure many do, and made mistakes. I didn't hurt or kill anybody but I cause family and friends a fair bit of angst. What other people thought used to really bother me but now I just don't care. I know I'm not the same person I was the best part of 20 years ago and I've done far more good than bad in the intervening period. Frankly if people want to judge me on the distant past then that's on them and arguably says more about them. I'm happy to afford others the same courtesy of a second chance.

[Since452]

Im about ****ing done - this is our Graeme Rix moment. This is Hibernian FC, club of the people, we have social and cultural and ethical values that stand us above in Scottish fitbaw - what the AF? Season ticket renewal :bye:

You're not seriously comparing racist text messages to grooming and sleeping with a child? Dearie me. Time to log off for the evening.

[BoomtownHibees]

It's that posters money, should be not be entitled to it back if he doesn't fancy a season ticket?

Not if it’s already bought and paid for. Running away because of who we have employed should not entitle you to a refund

[Trinity Hibee]

Happy with that.

I have accepted drink drivers, stalkers and various other offenders at Hibs so I reckon I can cope with his misdemeanours particularly when he has taken steps to address the issue.

Haven’t agreed with you over much in the past but agree with all of this.

[lyonhibs]

10 years ago a man admitted sending two inappropriate one line text messages to a mate. He apologised for causing any offence and attended a diversity training course.

I wonder how many of the holier than thou Hibs fans have never said anything offensive or inappropriate in their lifetime. Folk make mistakes and the important thing is to learn from those mistakes and become a better person. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

As the sin in question is as grevious as being racist in your 40s, consider my stone duly cast.