Hibs v Rangers

[Tyler Durden]

We can’t just drop new players (whatever their quality) into this formation and think it’s going to solve our problems.

The formation, the total lack of cohesion, aggression, urgency etc…. We are a shambles

Monty needs to rip it up and start again or he’s a goner. We’ve more than enough quality in the squad to be much much better than this crap

[VoltaireHibs]

I dont think NM will be in charge next season if the investment goes through, that is a certainty IMO.

Correct. Foley etc will not pump money and project players into a club with a manager that appears to be unable to create a positive environment for players to thrive in. And whatever we are at the moment, we are not a place that players thrive in. Zero togetherness about the club atm.

[J-C]

Doidge tries an overhead kick and completely misses it, sums it all up.

[Vault Boy]

Hurrah, the saviour has risen. We'll be storming up the league in no time now, lads.

Hibs fan in complimenting good play from a Hibs player SHOCK

[OtleyHibs]

I remember seeing Henrik Larson play for celtic against us early days (his first game for them ?) after he joined them … he looked pretty poor. A few years after and he had ripped Scottish football defences a new one, and I had learned the meaning of patience in football terms.

Set up Charnley for the winning screamer

Emiliano showing some good signs for me, hopeful he will be good for us

[SaulGoodman]

Hurrah, the saviour has risen. We'll be storming up the league in no time now, lads.

Mature

[Vault Boy]

Was brilliant from Jair there. What does crisp packet like mean tho? 😂

You’ll have to ask the creature that compared him to one

[Jones28]

You’ll have to ask the creature that compared him to one

😂😂😂

[timewilltell]

14 points behind Hearts… Embarrassing.

[Unseen work]

We’re just not an attacking team.

We play a lot of them, but we’re not attacking as we don’t know how to get them on the ball in dangerous positions.

We never cut through teams or break the lines. It’s get the wingers on the ball who are normally very deep hoping they beat the full back. When they do it’s an erratic cross in the box.

If you play a 442 you need to dogs in midfield and a striker who’s capable of chucking defenders about and making life difficult. We don’t have that.

[Golden Bear]

Boring one paced mediocrity, Hibs are a very hard watch right now.

[hibsbollah]

Hurrah, the saviour has risen. We'll be storming up the league in no time now, lads.

Dont be stupid.
Jair has had a nice turnaround in form after a poor start and deserves his place in the side. Its like some folk havent been watching.

[LunasBoots]

Simply not good enough, if Monty is going to be here long term he's going to have to adapt and change from the Plan A that he sticks with, it's not working.

[HFC 0-7]

For the first time I am starting to lose a bit faith in montgomery. I am just not seeing what the plan is, 4-4-2 just lacks options and gives opposition so much space especially when you need to rely on the likes of youan to track back.

Was giving them benefit of doubt up to now that something will start clicking but it’s just not there. I don’t think I have seen a hibs team struggle to find a pass or just pass it out the pitch.

[Iain G]

14 points behind Hearts… Embarrassing.

You are easily embarrassed then?

[Is It On....]

Maybe so, but I think more than 4 or 5 teams in our league would give this Rangers side a tougher game at home.

This shower are a shambles and we’re in dire need of both our new signings hitting the ground running and a few older ones bucking up their ideas.

Our newish signing in the dugout needs to start improving as well.

[HibbyAndy]

Simply not good enough, if Monty is going to be here long term he's going to have to adapt and change from the Plan A that he sticks with, it's not working.

He won't . He really won't be

[Hibees1973]

We don't have a team.

We have a bunch of guys, some of whom appear selfish and probably looking for a way out of the club. A few of them are at the end of their careers, Marshall, Stevenson, Hanlon, for example who have been good pros but the time has come to hang up their boots.

What is worrying is we have a whole load of show ponies who seem incapable of playing as part of a team. These players have been garnered from all corners of the globe, but seem seem clueless and don't play to any pattern under our new manager.

I say new, but Montgomery has been here nearly 6 months now. He has some job on his hands. Each week any confidence some of us had in him is diminishing.

Fine, our owner has provided cash to buy players and pay very good wages to some of them. But just now we don't look any better than the likes of Dundee & Motherwell.

[hibsbollah]

You are easily embarrassed then?

Thats what happens when you steal the poppy money.

[allmodcons]

Butlands made what ? 2 saves ?

Rangers not even out of 2nd gear.

And you think we’ve been good ? Or had good spells ?

We’ve been weak, slow and anything but good. As is the norm these days.

Embarassing.

Agree with this.

Hibs have done absolutely nothing to get the crowd onside and sadly this is the norm under this moron Montgomery.

We never dominate anybody and gift chances to the opposition every week.

A system that doesn’t work. Won’t change it.

A style of play that doesn’t work. Won’t change it.

A pigheaded fool at the helm of our Club.

[Mcbizz1998]

Well, that went exactly as expected.

[Jones28]

I'm not wanting to be overly negative here, but if you're wanting to defend this by saying we had a couple 'good spells' then do whatever makes you feel better I guess.

When we lost to rangers in May last season it was a pumping, and a really, abjectly poor one where we scored yes, but offered literally nothing other than that.

I saw improvements tonight, goal aside.

Others will see what they want to see but I didn’t think it was as awful a performance as that.

[Davy Mac]

14 points behind Hearts… Embarrassing.

To be fair to the shxte across the road, would we have come back from 0-2 down, not a chance.

Fxckin mentality and its been pash for years, rudderless managers, lets face it, that performance reminds you of the managers personality.

[LunasBoots]

He won't . He really won't be

Agree, it's really not working, this style is just killing us.

[tonyrougier123]

Pathetic display,absolutely no ingenuity about hibs flat as can be.

[Tyler Durden]

I don’t mind Jair and I’m glad he’s improved this year but I wouldn’t say mediocre is an unfair description. He’s been ok in an average team. Hasn’t contributed enough.

[chrisski33]

It hasn't.

Your wasting your breathe he will never accept Monty hasnt done so since he was appointed, saying that its not looking good for monty but more needs to be said for players who have been here for a while tbh

[cubehindthegoal]

Newell off but Levitt stays on?!

I think he has them sussed though …. bigger picture I mean … give it time … and better players become available … there is no magic wand to find better players .. if there was, they’d all do it … and managers would never get sacked 🤔 … so you work with what you have … until you can change it.

This time next year tell me I was a fool and wrong .. 😂 … hey it’s only my opinions too .. I’m not a manager either so probably I am lol … but we will see ..

[joe breezy]

I expected Hibs to get beat by around 3 goals - although o had hopes for a draw if the new guys did something special - but that was more disappointing than I expected as it was real shoot yourself in the foot stuff - anyway - I have a season ticket so lots more to come [emoji1787]


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[MikeyS]

You’ll have to ask the creature that compared him to one

"Creature" :hilarious

[cubehindthegoal]

not often newell gets subbed

Times they are a changin’

[Davy Mac]

He won't . He really won't be

I've seen nothing that convinces me he isn't any better than LJ and SM, we really know how to pick them, ffs.

[Jones28]

I don’t mind Jair and I’m glad he’s improved this year but I wouldn’t say mediocre is an unfair description. He’s been ok in an average team. Hasn’t contributed enough.

There’s a gaping chasm between what Tavares offers and what a mediocre player would offer us.

This happens all the ****ing time now and it’s enough to make you want to pack in this site altogether.

Something that’s objective pish gathers a little bit of traction and become gospel so quickly it’s ridiculous.

[Jim44]

Highlight of the night - St Johnstone hold Aberdeen to a draw. Unfortunately they’ve got two games in hand and a top six finish is a still an uphill struggle for us.

[CMac1988]

… so you work with what you have … until you can change it.

This I agree with. This isn't what Montgomery is doing.

[Jones28]

"Creature" :hilarious

Take it you missed his skinning his man and creating the chance towards the end then?

[Iain G]

Going into a game against a team 21 points ahead of us. Megwa plus 3 new players, injuries, players on international duty. What was the expectation?
Silly mistake from Marshall but he also made good saves.
End of the season we will be in a better position in my opinion.

Add in a first choice new centre back and we will be in much better shape.

[Exuberance1875]

It’s Marcondes or bust for me, a hopes lie at his feet. Only one who looked interested in playing and encouraging others.

[cabbageandribs1875]

we absolutely WILL win again

i'm absolutely positive we will

[allmodcons]

There’s a gaping chasm between what Tavares offers and what a mediocre player would offer us.

This happens all the ****ing time now and it’s enough to make you want to pack in this site altogether.

Something that’s objective pish gathers a little bit of traction and become gospel so quickly it’s ridiculous.

What did he offer tonight?

[Paulie Walnuts]

He won't . He really won't be

Agree. He won’t be here next season. So far out his depth.

[Tyler Durden]

There’s a gaping chasm between what Tavares offers and what a mediocre player would offer us.

This happens all the ****ing time now and it’s enough to make you want to pack in this site altogether.

Something that’s objective pish gathers a little bit of traction and become gospel so quickly it’s ridiculous.


Mediocre = moderate, ordinary. Doesn’t mean he’s rubbish.

He has improved but he has very few goal involvements. Didn’t do enough in the derby when in great positions. He’s been ok.

I think you could label the mediocre accusation at most players this season. I think many have the ability but their output has been mediocre.

Nothing hyperbolic about that

[Unseen work]

I've seen nothing that convinces me he isn't any better than LJ and SM, we really know how to pick them, ffs.

What I’d say in defence of Johnson, at 2-0 down at home I think he’d do something to get us at least back in the game or change it swing a bit in our favour.

Under Monty I never feel like we have the intensity or aggression to come from behind.

[Baader]

Was all for his appointment but Montgomery needs to change this. Otherwise doubt he'll last the season. Bringing in new players is welcome and needed but if they're deployed in this system I feel it's just going to hasten his departure.

[FitbaFolkKen]

Going into a game against a team 21 points ahead of us. Megwa plus 3 new players, injuries, players on international duty. What was the expectation?
Silly mistake from Marshall but he also made good saves.
End of the season we will be in a better position in my opinion.

We worked hard, thought we looked alright in patches. Need to work with the new guys for a bit.

When I saw that back 4 thought we were knackered. The difference was a bit of quality. Look at the finishes, and also the Butland save at 2-0.

Monty will get this team firing.


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[Basildon Hibs]

I've seen nothing that convinces me he isn't any better than LJ and SM, we really know how to pick them, ffs.

Correct. A clueless 'coach' from a pub league.

TBH, I never expected any different after the last two failures. 🤣

[Jones28]

What did he offer tonight?

His ball retention is excellent.
Skins players regularly.
Won the free kick that led to the Youan chance he headed wide.
Beat Tavernier and got a shot off in the first half which was saved.
Great corners.
Pace that rivals Youan.

Off the top of my head.

[Paulie Walnuts]

There’s a gaping chasm between what Tavares offers and what a mediocre player would offer us.

This happens all the ****ing time now and it’s enough to make you want to pack in this site altogether.

Something that’s objective pish gathers a little bit of traction and become gospel so quickly it’s ridiculous.

On the presumption you know what mediocre means I’m not sure why you seem to think it’s such a ridiculous take. To suggest there’s a gaping chasm between Jair and a mediocre/average player, I’ve no idea how you can come to that conclusion. I don’t think there’s a player in our squad who could lay claim to being a gaping chasm ahead of a mediocre player.

[MikeyS]

Take it you missed his skinning his man and creating the chance towards the end then?

Nope, I seen it mate. It was very impressive but it doesn't change MY opinion that he is a poor player. Is that OK?

[cabbageandribs1875]

on a positive note :) the radio commentator mentioned in the first half that sitting at the back of the west stand at ER is the best view in scottish football :greengrin

[Jones28]

Mediocre = moderate, ordinary. Doesn’t mean he’s rubbish.

He has improved but he has very few goal involvements. Didn’t do enough in the derby when in great positions. He’s been ok.

I think you could label the mediocre accusation at most players this season. I think many have the ability but their output has been mediocre.

Nothing hyperbolic about that

I disagree.

I might be blinded by his redemption story etc etc but I think he’s a real talent and is a player we are very lucky to have.

[Jones28]

Nope, I seen it mate. It was very impressive but it doesn't change MY opinion that he is a poor player. Is that OK?

You can think what you want but there’s evidence in front of you suggesting otherwise.

[NC1875]

Monty will get this team firing.


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Hes had 6 months and I’ve barely seen a lively performance. Can you tell me when we’ll be “firing” ?

[Trinity Hibee]

I disagree.

I might be blinded by his redemption story etc etc but I think he’s a real talent and is a player we are very lucky to have.

I’ll disagree with that. Zero end product but he’s not the only one.

[Jones28]

On the presumption you know what mediocre means I’m not sure why you seem to think it’s such a ridiculous take. To suggest there’s a gaping chasm between Jair and a mediocre/average player, I’ve no idea how you can come to that conclusion. I don’t think there’s a player in our squad who could lay claim to being a gaping chasm ahead of a mediocre player.

Fine. You think otherwise.

I think we all know what mediocre means in footballing terms vs the dictionary definition though.

[SaulGoodman]

Hes had 6 months and I’ve barely seen a lively performance. Can you tell me when we’ll be “firing” ?

Probably Montgomery in the summer

[VoltaireHibs]

I think he has them sussed though …. bigger picture I mean … give it time … and better players become available … there is no magic wand to find better players .. if there was, they’d all do it … and managers would never get sacked �� … so you work with what you have … until you can change it.

This time next year tell me I was a fool and wrong .. �� … hey it’s only my opinions too .. I’m not a manager either so probably I am lol … but we will see ..

The bit in bold. It's like NM wants to get the sack, and he will if this goes on much longer. His job, his choice.

[Trinity Hibee]

Hes had 6 months and I’ve barely seen a lively performance. Can you tell me when we’ll be “firing” ?

The only firing will be the board firing NM

[hibsbollah]

His ball retention is excellent.
Skins players regularly.
Won the free kick that led to the Youan chance he headed wide.
Beat Tavernier and got a shot off in the first half which was saved.
Great corners.
Pace that rivals Youan.

Off the top of my head.

Agree.
Mediocre is a really, well, mediocre take.

[NC1875]

You can think what you want but there’s evidence in front of you suggesting otherwise.

Yeah, his whole 2 goals and 0 assists in 16 games.

Definitely not mediocre.

[MikeyS]

You can think what you want but there’s evidence in front of you suggesting otherwise.



We will have to agree to disagree mate. We have much larger problems than ineffective wingers to worry about anyway.

[Mcbizz1998]

I disagree.

I might be blinded by his redemption story etc etc but I think he’s a real talent and is a player we are very lucky to have.

He has done well to be become a member of the squad able to add some value. To say we are lucky to have him is a stretch, no other clubs will be coming in for him that’s for sure!

[RIP]

Some valid questions and criticism for Montgomery. At the same time what a poor collection of individuals we have masquerading as a squad. So many you can make a case for on paper but the reality is they don’t live up to how good they should be in theory.

Megwa
Obita
Amos
Emiliano
The youngsters

That’s about the extent of who I actively want to see more off. The rest I wouldn’t notice if they left tomorrow.

That's because the new guys are always better than what we have.

Until we get humped. Then they need cleared out

[Centre Hawf]

When we lost to rangers in May last season it was a pumping, and a really, abjectly poor one where we scored yes, but offered literally nothing other than that.

I saw improvements tonight, goal aside.

Others will see what they want to see but I didn’t think it was as awful a performance as that.

We were ever so slightly less worse than the other time we got pumped in the same fixture. I'll get the beers out?

I'm all for finding the positives mate but you sometimes just have to call it as you see it, doesn't make you a lesser fan for saying it.

[Jones28]

We were ever so slightly less worse than the other time we got pumped in the same fixture. I'll get the beers out?

I'm all for finding the positives mate but you sometimes just have to call it as you see it, doesn't make you a lesser fan for saying it.

I never once said it does.

I might be disconnected from other fans as I don’t get to games as often as I’d like - finances, young kids etc - but I always try to say it as I see it.

[Jones28]

He has done well to be become a member of the squad able to add some value. To say we are lucky to have him is a stretch, no other clubs will be coming in for him that’s for sure!

I think he will make Hibs a lot of money.


If I was a betting man I would say he will be the one that breaks our transfer record.

[NC1875]

I think he will make Hibs a lot of money.


If I was a betting man I would say he will be the one that breaks our transfer record.

You’re at the wind up now

[Jones28]

You’re at the wind up now

Absolutely not.

[cabbageandribs1875]

lol

[MikeyS]

I think he will make Hibs a lot of money.


If I was a betting man I would say he will be the one that breaks our transfer record.


Holy *****! :LOL:

[Heisenberg]

I think he will make Hibs a lot of money.


If I was a betting man I would say he will be the one that breaks our transfer record.

Tavares has been average since he came into the team and will likely be on the bench when Boyle is back. He’ll get nowhere near breaking our transfer record 😂

[allmodcons]

I think he will make Hibs a lot of money.


If I was a betting man I would say he will be the one that breaks our transfer record.

You are definitely on the wind up.

[Willis1875]

We will have to agree to disagree mate. We have much larger problems than ineffective wingers to worry about anyway.

Effective wingers in the system that he is playing is absolutely crucial

[Johnny_Leith]

I think he will make Hibs a lot of money.


If I was a betting man I would say he will be the one that breaks our transfer record.

Wow. That is some take.

[MikeyS]

Effective wingers in the system that he is playing is absolutely crucial

They absolutely are mate but I reckon finding better centre halfs and centre mids is more important at this point in time. We are ridiculously soft through the spine of the team.

Amos could be an upgrade, though.

[Jones28]

Wow. That is some take.

We all have opinions, that’s mine. I rate him very highly.

I’ll head off for now. I don’t need to reply to 100 comments who all think I’m mental. 😂

[Davy Mac]

Will NM insist on a players lock-in at the end of the game and read the riot act? Nah, a cup of tea and move on to the next game with the same tactics, it'll work, honestly it'll work I'm tellin ya.

Meanwhile we are slipping into the bottom half of the table.

[B.H.F.C]

That was depressing tonight.

Went in to the shop about an hour before the game and there wasn’t even a dozen folk in, which told you what the crowd was going to be like. So, so flat.

First half there wasn’t actually much in it. Couple of bits of quality from them at the top end of the park and we just don’t have that level of quality. Nothing to do with not getting in to good positions, we got in to plenty in the first half but our finishing and/or final ball was generally crap.

Should have scored right at the start of the second half and potentially changes the game. Was done from that moment (if it wasn’t before).

We have a total lack of fight and desire in that team. Some of them are just pretenders.

[Basildon Hibs]

They absolutely are mate but I reckon finding better centre halfs and centre mids is more important at this point in time. We are ridiculously soft through the spine of the team.

Spot on. Midfield has been soft as ***** for years. It's never been addressed.

[Northernhibee]

It’s depressing how much the club has regressed since we finished third.

[mcohibs]

We won’t make top 6 this season.

[Smartie]

They absolutely are mate but I reckon finding better centre halfs and centre mids is more important at this point in time. We are ridiculously soft through the spine of the team.

Amos could be an upgrade, though.

I’d have said centre mids but it’s really hard to point to any part of the team right now and say it isn’t part of the problem rather than part of the solution - GK, centre halves, full backs, centre mids, wide players forwards - are all cause for concern, which is terrifying.

Megwa a plus point, which is hugely welcome as RB has been a problem and Obita did well - but it would be a surprise if he played that position for us again.

[K-Zazu]

Playing 4–4-2 every week might work in the A league, not here Monty.

[Trinity Hibee]

It’s depressing how much the club has regressed since we finished third.

Yep. 3 years since we finished 3rd and at that point the squad needed small touch ups. Now we are miles off it

[Stuart93]

Very one sided overall. Never took our chances and the third was poor from Marshall

Our midfield is over run every game because there’s only 2 of them in there, it isn’t working

I liked the new guy though marcondes, looked a cut above the rest of our squad

These games don’t define our season but **** me I wish we’d actually give them a game at least

[AL-Qaholik]

Looks to me (and loads around me, judging by the chatter) that the players aren’t playing for him.
So few doing the basics right or putting anything resembling a shift in.

[Callum_62]

Will NM insist on a players lock-in at the end of the game and read the riot act? Nah, a cup of tea and move on to the next game with the same tactics, it'll work, honestly it'll work I'm tellin ya.

Meanwhile we are slipping into the bottom half of the table.

Yorkshire Gold I heard it was too!

[JohnM1875]

Very one sided overall. Never took our chances and the third was poor from Marshall

Our midfield is over run every game because there’s only 2 of them in there, it isn’t working

I liked the new guy though marcondes, looked a cut above the rest of our squad

These games don’t define our season but **** me I wish we’d actually give them a game at least

Haven't seen their second back yet but said at half time I thought Marshall maybe should do better for their second? It had some power behind it mind you, but thought he reacted pretty late. Will need to see it back though.

[Willis1875]

Yep. 3 years since we finished 3rd and at that point the squad needed small touch ups. Now we are miles off it

Yep all it needed was filled out a bit with a couple of good additions after that season

[Callum_62]

Haven't seen their second back yet but said at half time I thought Marshall maybe should do better for their second? It had some power behind it mind you, but thought he reacted pretty late. Will need to see it back though.

I thought so initially too but he hits it early and its reasonably close to the corner fading away

just a really good strike really IMO

[andrew_dundee]

0-3 was quite flattering to them. For the first hour or so we were pretty good in places and if we had converted a chance and made it 1-2 I think atmosphere would have changed and we may have got something from it.

That said, Rangers are simply a better team with better players so any points against them are a bonus TBH.

New signings looked alright and will have had a bit more time by the weekend, although I'd still hope for more business in this window.

Next two matches are Kilmarnock and St Mirren so we really need to get something from both of them.

[Unseen work]

We do have the players to play good attacking football, but the system we’re playing them in is literally killing every single one of their strengths.

Any half decent manager/set up would get us looking good

[Paulie Walnuts]

We do have the players to play good attacking football, but the system we’re playing them in is literally killing every single one of their strengths.

Any half decent manager/set up would get us looking good

Yup.

It’s going to get him sacked. He’ll have nobody to blame but himself. This formation/style of play is an absolute shambles.

[Carheenlea]

Montgomery rues the missed chances, admits it’s a difficult period for the club, doesn’t accept that the 4 4 2 is too predictable a formation and the goals conceded weren’t a consequence of that, young players will make mistakes, no excuses, didn’t feel 3-0 was a far reflection on game.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Montgomery rues the missed chances, admits it’s a difficult period for the club, doesn’t accept that the 4 4 2 is too predictable a formation and the goals conceded weren’t a consequence of that, young players will make mistakes, no excuses, didn’t feel 3-0 was a far reflection on game.

He actually said that? Or that’s what you’re guessing he’ll say?

Doesn’t accept that his ridiculously basic, only way of playing is predictably. That’s some take.

[hibsbollah]

Montgomery rues the missed chances, admits it’s a difficult period for the club, doesn’t accept that the 4 4 2 is too predictable a formation and the goals conceded weren’t a consequence of that, young players will make mistakes, no excuses, didn’t feel 3-0 was a far reflection on game.

All fair comments, in my opinion.

However, he needs to start winning some games now. A relegation fight isnt what we were promised.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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thank goodness someone dropped off :greengrin

[Carheenlea]

he actually said that? Or that’s what you’re guessing he’ll say?

Doesn’t accept that his ridiculously basic, only way of playing is predictably. That’s some take.

BBC interview

[mcfly]

Fully appreciate we can’t keep changing managers and we need stability however the manager cannot be beyond criticism.

He has to get the fans excited to go to Easter road. He has to sort out this awful defence and he needs to sign players that don’t shrink into a shell when the pressure is on.

Levitt and vente is a huge outlay of near £1 million neither have done anything to justify that

We are only 7 points ahead of 11th place so we need to start winning games.

Big week ahead for recruitment team.

[Hibs4185]

Montgomery rues the missed chances, admits it’s a difficult period for the club, doesn’t accept that the 4 4 2 is too predictable a formation and the goals conceded weren’t a consequence of that, young players will make mistakes, no excuses, didn’t feel 3-0 was a far reflection on game.

If that was his interview then I don’t fancy him to be here long.

No way are we starting the Foley regime with a 17,500 per week midfielder, playing that formation and tactics.

Bournemouth won’t be sending us many players. Supposed to be coming here to get experience and improve

[B.H.F.C]

We do have the players to play good attacking football, but the system we’re playing them in is literally killing every single one of their strengths.

Any half decent manager/set up would get us looking good

Disagree with this. Getting in to positions isn’t an issue, lack of end product when we get there is. Youan had three decent opportunities first half, albeit one was from a set piece. And he had multiple chances to go at the full back but didn’t get past him and actually managed to get booked himself from a position where he had the ball on one occasion. Did put one on a plate from Moalidasecond half though.

Vente again disappointed me. There is more to being a centre forward than getting a chance and his all round game was crap again tonight. Thought the one right on half time that Levitt wrapped in to him when he needed to just be sharper with his touch to get a shot away summed him up.

Tavares, now the novelty has worn off, is just looking fairly average. I’d get Youan back on the left as always thought he was more effective there.

Not saying there isn’t anything wrong with the way we’re being sent out, but I still think it’s more the way we’re asked to play than the shape. Shape in an attacking sense didn’t kill us tonight. You’re never going to get loads of chances against them and in the first 50 minutes we had plenty opportunities, we just didn’t make anything of them.

[Carheenlea]

Levitt and vente is a huge outlay of near £1 million neither have done anything to justify that



Two high quality players who are playing in a system that isn’t getting the most out of those qualities.

The task for Montgomery is to get both playing in a way that maximises their talents for the benefit of the side. That’s not happening right now.

[cameronw-hfc]

Two high quality players who are playing in a system that isn’t getting the most out of those qualities.

The task for Montgomery is to get both playing in a way that maximises their talents for the benefit of the side. That’s not happening right now.

Both good players but Vente at least looks decent with link up and stuff. Levitt just hasn't got going what so ever for some reason.

[sorryfolks]

Both good players but Vente at least looks decent with link up and stuff. Levitt just hasn't got going what so ever for some reason.

He’s just way too slow/weak physically. Technically he’s a really good footballer but he can’t get about the park to make use of it. There’s just no explosiveness to his play due to his physicality.

[WeeRussell]

Haven't seen their second back yet but said at half time I thought Marshall maybe should do better for their second? It had some power behind it mind you, but thought he reacted pretty late. Will need to see it back though.

I wondered if the ball hammering off his puss immediately before the goal had any effect on his attempted save for the second. Maybe not though.

[wookie70]

He’s just way too slow/weak physically. Technically he’s a really good footballer but he can’t get about the park to make use of it. There’s just no explosiveness to his play due to his physicality. I think that can be said for the majority of the team. The players that we used to think have pace no longer look that way either. Levitt, Jair and Youan with a full back who is making a debut and one well into the twilight of their career is asking for trouble. If Levitt played in teh same team McGeough played in he would be great for us. He is way too deep and no license or engine to get much further forward. Like a few of the players we seem to be playing to their weaknesses.

[Centre Hawf]

Always felt at United he looked at his best when he had Harkes and Fuchs behind him doing a lot of his tackling/work off the ball and allowing him to get into the final third more and hit shots. At the moment he's just being used as some sort of deep lying playmaker and he's just not particularly good at it, especially in a two man midfield.

If we want to get anything out of him he needs a combination of two behind him. But then we have Emiliano there who even in his small cameo looked better than Levitt tonight.

[Spudster]

14 points behind Hearts… Embarrassing.

You expected to gain on them tonight… idiotic.

[AL-Qaholik]

Montgomery rues the missed chances, admits it’s a difficult period for the club, doesn’t accept that the 4 4 2 is too predictable a formation and the goals conceded weren’t a consequence of that, young players will make mistakes, no excuses, didn’t feel 3-0 was a far reflection on game.

He also said “the squad is out of my control” - which is a very odd statement.
I assumed he meant injuries/AFCON etc but was a very strange choice of term.

[Hibs90]

He also said “the squad is out of my control” - which is a very odd statement.
I assumed he meant injuries/AFCON etc but was a very strange choice of term.

That’s exactly what he meant.

[He's here!]

All fair comments, in my opinion.

However, he needs to start winning some games now. A relegation fight isnt what we were promised.

Where do we see the next win coming from? Looking at the number of games in hand several teams below us have and the fact we're just seven points above the play-off spot we look to be on the brink of serious bother.

[joe breezy]

on a positive note :) the radio commentator mentioned in the first half that sitting at the back of the west stand at ER is the best view in scottish football :greengrin

Back of famous five is the best view

You can count the silhouettes of people who have climbed Arthur’ Seat instead of watching Hibs


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[greenpaper55]

I was more worried by the result in Perth a few weeks ago, thats a truer indicator of where we are and it’s not good. I was one who supported NM getting the job as using the same retreads is not the answer but i think i was wrong. Shame when you think he has moved from the other side of the world with his family here now as well.

[He's here!]

I was more worried by the result in Perth a few weeks ago, thats a truer indicator of where we are and it’s not good. I was one who supported NM getting the job as using the same retreads is not the answer but i think i was wrong. Shame when you think he has moved from the other side of the world with his family here now as well.

There was a lot of goodwill and hope around his appointment and he comes across as a good bloke who sincerely believes in what he's doing. We all want him to succeed but as you say it's getting harder to see what he's doing to improve us. If anything we seem almost worse than we were before he came.

[Bridge hibs]

on a positive note :) the radio commentator mentioned in the first half that sitting at the back of the west stand at ER is the best view in scottish football :greengrin

Aye but he wouldn't have been as complimentary if he had turned his seat round to face the pitch 😳

[One Day Soon]

jeezo … yip … we want success in less than six months, or else 😅 🙄

Just picking up on this rather bizarre post now. Who said we expected success in less than six months? I hardly think that questioning the manager's blind determination in every circumstance to stick to only one style of play when it patently isn't working is demanding success within six months.

[erin go bragh]

Fantasy foul to deny us a clear penalty and they score with their first chance. Fine margins but surely we have to stay behind our manager and see how these new players improve our style of play and results.

[WhileTheChief..]

I was more worried by the result in Perth a few weeks ago, thats a truer indicator of where we are and it’s not good. I was one who supported NM getting the job as using the same retreads is not the answer but i think i was wrong. Shame when you think he has moved from the other side of the world with his family here now as well.

He wanted to move back to the UK. Worst case scenario, he'll get a decent pay-off and set up home down south before finding a new club.

[VoltaireHibs]

He’s just way too slow/weak physically. Technically he’s a really good footballer but he can’t get about the park to make use of it. There’s just no explosiveness to his play due to his physicality.

He's a disgrace of a professional. Some of our under 18's have a better physique. He looks like a player that can't be bothered doing the hard yards either on or off the pitch. Want's to stroll about playing Hollywood passes. You can't do that in the SPL. I'd sell him if anyone would take him.

Folk have a go at Josh Campbell but I'd take him over Levitt all day long. He's honest, he's got himself in top shape and he does the best he can. Yes he's limited in some respects, but give me honest hard workers every day. That's why our neighbours are strolling third without breaking sweat. Us and Aberdeen are trying to reinvent the wheel whilst they just get on with SPL football.

[where'stheslope]

He's a disgrace of a professional. Some of our under 18's have a better physique. He looks like a player that can't be bothered doing the hard yards either on or off the pitch. Want's to stroll about playing Hollywood passes. You can't do that in the SPL. I'd sell him if anyone would take him.

Folk have a go at Josh Campbell but I'd take him over Levitt all day long. He's honest, he's got himself in top shape and he does the best he can. Yes he's limited in some respects, but give me honest hard workers every day. That's why our neighbours are strolling third without breaking sweat. Us and Aberdeen are trying to reinvent the wheel whilst they just get on with SPL football.
If you believe what your saying, its as if you want us to have a team of honest journey men who will keep us in the league, and not aspire to winning cups or getting into Europe???