Don’t sack Lee

[Baader]

Playing well when you're 2-0 down doesn't cut it. Try doing that when it's 0-0.

[e2los]

This thread is now redundant as LJ can't stay now.

I wish him all the best in his future career, but it won't be with us.

[Unseen work]

Would a different manager make us any worse ?

Surely someone new would come in and make us harder to beat ?

Some of the results this season…

Losses against…

Part time Falkirk
Part time Morton
Aberdeen 4-1
Livi
St Mirren
St Johnstone
Ross County
Kilmarnock
Celtic - 6-1 and 4-0
Hearts - 3-0

The stats are awful.

7 wins and 2 draws.

Of the 7 wins we played against teams down to 10 men on 5 occasions.

Of the one draw we played against a team down to 9 men on 1 occasion

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

If Martindale comes anywhere near Hibernian in any capacity that will be the last straw for me , horrible style of football and I don't think he's any better than Johnson and is also a convicted drug dealer . Nice choice btw

Martindale is by far and away a better manager than this Ted Lasso ******* we’ve got the now


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[Unseen work]

Hibs have decent players. Should be doing far better than recent results.

Neil Lennon would at least get some hunger and desire back in there and give the fans something to support.

You think?

I think our squad, whilst there is some quality, is pretty garbage

Today hearts had

Bangingme
Boyce
Halkett
Haring
Gordon
Kinglsey
Mackay Steven

All out injured and they still beat us 3-0. Most of them are starters for them

[SHODAN]

Would be more than happy with Martindale tbh. We wouldn't come though.

[ScottB]

Would a different manager make us any worse ?

Surely someone new would come in and make us harder to beat ?

Some of the results this season…

Losses against…

Part time Falkirk
Part time Morton
Aberdeen 4-1
Livi
St Mirren
St Johnstone
Ross County
Kilmarnock
Celtic - 6-1 and 4-0
Hearts - 3-0

We were harder to beat under Maloney, never mind someone new…

[Ozyhibby]

Johnson on the radio seems to think the problem at Hibs is the strikers. No mention of the midfield.


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[Hibs4185]

Neil Lennon would also not be afraid to spell out exactly what was wrong behind the scenes to RG.

For me we should stick with LJ unless NL would take the job. I can’t think of any other candidates that would immediately get me excited

[Steven79]

Johnson on the radio seems to think the problem at Hibs is the strikers. No mention of the midfield.


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[Is It On....]

Martindale is by far and away a better manager than this Ted Lasso ******* we’ve got the now


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Ted Lasso 😂 First thing that's made me laugh since 3:12pm today

[Greenwich_Hibby]

Struggling to see how anyone can support this clown. Clutching at straws imo.

[Steven79]

Neil Lennon would also not be afraid to spell out exactly what was wrong behind the scenes to RG.

For me we should stick with LJ unless NL would take the job. I can’t think of any other candidates that would immediately get me excitedCan't imagine Lennon would want to either work with the current management structure or the current group of players.

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[tonyrougier123]

The stats are awful.

7 wins and 2 draws.

Of the 7 wins we played against teams down to 10 men on 5 occasions.

Of the one draw we played against a team down to 9 men on 1 occasion

The stats in 8 games against hearts Aberdeen celts and sevco are astounding.

5points gained
Conceded 23
Scored 9

Just against those 4.

[Paulie Walnuts]

You think?

I think our squad, whilst there is some quality, is pretty garbage

Today hearts had

Bangingme
Boyce
Halkett
Haring
Gordon
Kinglsey
Mackay Steven

All out injured and they still beat us 3-0. Most of them are starters for them

Every single one of them would start for us.

Other than Clark I reckon every one of their players that started today would probably start for us as well.

[Colinton Hibby]

You think?

I think our squad, whilst there is some quality, is pretty garbage

Today hearts had

Bangingme
Boyce
Halkett
Haring
Gordon
Kinglsey
Mackay Steven

All out injured and they still beat us 3-0. Most of them are starters for them


We would be raging if that lot played for us. Apart from Gordon everyone of them is *****.

[h1bs4life]

Get rid now he has not got a clue.
Started the season thinking the League Cup was glorified friendlies , disastrous run of defeats and now a totally baffling team selection for a derby on the back of thinking it is ok to go out up the town the night before .

[heid the baw]

Bottom line is we should have appointed Derek Mcinnes after sacking Ross
A no brainer instead of messing around with Maloney then Johnston.
I really don't care if he stays or goes now. This ship is rudderless under the current owner

[007]

Give him until the cup game. Getting rid of Jack Ross just before a big cup game didn't pay off. If they knock us out then let him go, if we win it then it could kick start our season.

[B.H.F.C]

Give him until the cup game. Getting rid of Jack Ross just before a big cup game didn't pay off. If they knock us out then let him go, if we win it then it could kick start our season.

We’ve got two huge games before that to try and stay out of a potential relegation spot. Not got a few weeks to wait for a kick start.

[LeithMike]

Bottom line is we should have appointed Derek Mcinnes after sacking Ross
A no brainer instead of messing around with Maloney then Johnston.
I really don't care if he stays or goes now. This ship is rudderless under the current owner

Agree. McInnes with total control of recruitment and footballing side and task of carrying out a complete rebuild. Would take a major step of humility by the owner.

If we just swap for someone else prepared to work with the recruitment team then we are consigned to the same old.


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[GreenCastle]

Give him until the cup game. Getting rid of Jack Ross just before a big cup game didn't pay off. If they knock us out then let him go, if we win it then it could kick start our season.

To be fair to Ross he beat the huns 3-0 in probably his best Hibs result so probably deserved the cup final.

He did get beat by teams like Livi too though so wasn't black and white.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Mcinnes signed an extension until 2026










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[SteveHFC]

David Gray until end of season
We don't have time to muck about with interviews etc we need someone in place the moment LJ gets shown door

[Colinton Hibby]

Agree. McInnes with total control of recruitment and footballing side and task of carrying out a complete rebuild. Would take a major step of humility by the owner.

If we just swap for someone else prepared to work with the recruitment team then we are consigned to the same old.


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anyone wanting McInness or Martindale needs to visit a doctor.

I would have Lenny back in a heartbeat.

[GreenGray]

Mcinnes signed an extension until 2026










next

Thank god for that!


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[Ray Donovan]

anyone wanting McInness or Martindale needs to visit a doctor.

I would have Lenny back in a heartbeat.

This guy has had his fun, someone please empty him.

[CL0762]

David Gray until end of season
We don't have time to muck about with interviews etc we need someone in place the moment LJ gets shown door

David Gray 😂

Ever since he joined the coaching staff we’ve been absolutely guff.

Another part of the problem.

[Allant1981]

anyone wanting McInness or Martindale needs to visit a doctor.

I would have Lenny back in a heartbeat.

You still here

[Is It On....]

anyone wanting McInness or Martindale needs to visit a doctor.

I would have Lenny back in a heartbeat.

And yet Lennon, who's appalling behaviour at the end of his time, is absolutely fine?

[Bobby's Cinema]

Sorry Lee. Sometimes subs can send a message. Subbing 2 signings at half time should be an admission from him that he's got it wrong. Again. If it was an attempt to say his hands are tied, you have to work with what you have.

Early in his time I thought there were signs of getting the best out of certain players but that seems a long time ago now.

So that's 6 at celtic, 4 at aberdeen 3 at rangers and now 3 shipped at hearts. We're only at the turn of the year. And we hounded JR out for his performance in the big games. Odds of him turning this round long term are getting longer.

[Ozyhibby]

David Gray until end of season
We don't have time to muck about with interviews etc we need someone in place the moment LJ gets shown door

I think it will be Steve Kean.


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[500miles]

Give him until the cup game. Getting rid of Jack Ross just before a big cup game didn't pay off. If they knock us out then let him go, if we win it then it could kick start our season.

Jack Ross actually achieved something with Hibs that should have earned him that time.

LJ has done nothing.

[HNA2]

This guy has had his fun, someone please empty him.



You still here


Use the report post function if theres anything you feel we need to look at otherwise leave it to us please

[Allant1981]

Use the report post function if theres anything you feel we need to look at otherwise leave it to us please

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[green day]

Hes lost 9 in the last 11.

Times up

[chrisski33]

Don't think Joe was involved in major crime (off the pitch at least)

Drink driving pretty serious esp if you hit and kill someone! Luckily Newell didnt hit anyone.

[Unseen work]

Although he done nothing on both occasions, I really dislike how Johnson chucks McKirdy in away to Celtic and hearts and subs him at half time on both occasions.

Others have had far more chances and it’s hardly giving him much of a chance.

[bingo70]

Neil Lennon is exactly what we need short term IMO. Longer term I’m well aware of the problems we would face but for a short term injection of passion, enthusiasm and someone that simplifies football he’s just what we need.

[Willis1875]

Neil Lennon is exactly what we need short term IMO. Longer term I’m well aware of the problems we would face but for a short term injection of passion, enthusiasm and someone that simplifies football he’s just what we need.

Whilst I like Lennons passion and enthusiasm,for me he’s only successful when he inherits a good squad,once he’s tasked with rebuilding(which is what’s sorely needed at hibs) he tends to go to pot.
Bit like Collins actually

[bingo70]

Whilst I like Lennons passion and enthusiasm,for me he’s only successful when he inherits a good squad,once he’s tasked with rebuilding(which is what’s sorely needed at hibs) he tends to go to pot.
Bit like Collins actually

Fair point

[Allant1981]

Whilst I like Lennons passion and enthusiasm,for me he’s only successful when he inherits a good squad,once he’s tasked with rebuilding(which is what’s sorely needed at hibs) he tends to go to pot.
Bit like Collins actually

Yip, lennon would be honking with this squad I feel

[lyonhibs]

Sack Lee. I think that much is now patently obvious

[Tully]

Although he done nothing on both occasions, I really dislike how Johnson chucks McKirdy in away to Celtic and hearts and subs him at half time on both occasions.

Others have had far more chances and it’s hardly giving him much of a chance.

100% correct especially when youhan stayed on the park

[WhileTheChief..]

Sick of the mediocrity....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzZhTkSH2AM

[Aldo]

He decided the formation, he decided the tactics and he decided the team.

He make a complete **** of it all by all accounts not playing his strongest team and gambling with players etc.

If he’s trying to make a point to the owner then he’s made a right tit of himself, the club snd taken the fans for a ride!

His self egotistic, point the finger elsewhere, is not good enough or acceptable.

Time to go……

[WhileTheChief..]

Neil Lennon is exactly what we need short term IMO. Longer term I’m well aware of the problems we would face but for a short term injection of passion, enthusiasm and someone that simplifies football he’s just what we need.

:top marksI'm going to keep banging this drum until it happens.

He's the obvious solution to our problems in the short term and it could be amazing in the longer term.

He's had time away from Scotland again and did a fine job really.

I'd take any of his previous shenanigans again to get a bit of life back into our club.

[WhileTheChief..]

Whilst I like Lennons passion and enthusiasm,for me he’s only successful when he inherits a good squad,once he’s tasked with rebuilding(which is what’s sorely needed at hibs) he tends to go to pot.
Bit like Collins actually

He did ok in Cyprus with a basket case of a club by all accounts.

[Ray Donovan]

Sick of the mediocrity....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzZhTkSH2AM

I have been for 18 months.

[Stevie Reid]

Sick of the mediocrity....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzZhTkSH2AM

I wish we were mediocre. Would be a massive improvement on our current condition.

[e2los]

Sick of the mediocrity....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzZhTkSH2AM


Only good thing out of today is that this was his last post match apology as our manager.

[e2los]

Sack Lee. I think that much is now patently obvious

Would be shocked if he is in charge for the Motherwell game, never mind the Derby on the 22nd.

[WeeRussell]

Sick of the mediocrity....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzZhTkSH2AM

Fist half of that is fair enough from him, albeit I don’t necessarily agree that “we’ll get there” under him.

Seems the only positives he could fall back on at the end were our fans, our training facilities, and our stadium. Potentially a sad but true reflection of where we are right now.

[Davy Mac]

Sick of the mediocrity....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzZhTkSH2AM

Stop frickin lecturing on what we need to do, you keep saying the same claptrap every week, its clear the players are gash and the club is most unambitious/wishy washy club in the SPL.

Get this nobody out of our club and take most of the team with you because like you, they have nothing to offer Hibernian Football Club.

RG, for heavens sake, say something, do something and stop ersing around.

[LunasBoots]

Would be shocked if he is in charge for the Motherwell game, never mind the Derby on the 22nd.

Going to struggle to sell tickets for the Derby now I'd say and possibly future games, owners will need to make a decision, back him now or sack him.

[Lost_Mackem]

He’s ****.

We’d go on mental winless runs in League 1 despite having probably the best squad in the division when he was in charge. Clean sheets were a rarity and we suffered some absolute hammerings on his watch. We lost 6-0 at a poor Bolton team the day before he was sacked.

[Unseen work]

https://twitter.com/bbcsportscot/status/1609988021138472961?s=46&t=cXI2znpNTfAvH1IjFZdfoA

Another honest interview

[Iain G]

https://twitter.com/bbcsportscot/status/1609988021138472961?s=46&t=cXI2znpNTfAvH1IjFZdfoA

Another honest interview

That and the official one. He is right. He made mistakes today with the set up and the starting XI, but I still would like him to be given the rest of the season and the next window to put it right. Just can't keep resetting everything every six months.

[Keepthefaith]

Tin hat on here but I think he's not saying a lot wrong there. He could have been more critical of his selection, then maybe we wouldn't have been 2-0 down but if we sack him who are we going to get that's better??

I'm open to him being backed this window, see him clear out a few and go again. We're still able to get top 4 due to failings of others.

I'd also like us to bring some of the youth team through.

Interesting that he mentioned players been here too long/ not settling, might be a few surprises with departures?

Really don't think more instability is the answer.

[WhileTheChief..]

https://twitter.com/bbcsportscot/status/1609988021138472961?s=46&t=cXI2znpNTfAvH1IjFZdfoA

Another honest interview

He might be being honest, but it's taken him way too long to realise everything that is wrong.

Players have been here too long / need time to settle. I mean, come on. It's excuse after excuse.

He literally does not know what he's doing or how to fix it.

Just listened to it again, it's slavering nonsense mostly, begging to keep his job.

[keep the faith]

Don't sack him Hibs. We cant keep doing this. It's the dumbest business model. It's the recruitment structure which is failing us badly. RG must see that now and make a call on his sons dept.
I think LJ will be ruthless in Jan and i genuinely still think he has what it takes. We need to let him see things through.

We all need to hold our nerve here, get a perspective and back the manager - but reject the structure he is working with.

I know I will get hammered here, but another sacking would be amateur, damaging and destabilising for the club and our future credibility.

[silverhibee]

Sick of the mediocrity....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzZhTkSH2AM

We s******s, a kid on tear, ffs get this man to ****** away from our club, he has obviously taking tips from Matt Hancock.

[Iain G]

We s******s, a kid on tear, ffs get this man to ****** away from our club, he has obviously taking tips from Matt Hancock.

Seemed pretty genuine to me.

[Carheenlea]

Don't sack him Hibs. We cant keep doing this. It's the dumbest business model. It's the recruitment structure which is failing us badly. RG must see that now and make a call on his sons dept.
I think LJ will be ruthless in Jan and i genuinely still think he has what it takes. We need to let him see things through.

We all need to hold our nerve here, get a perspective and back the manager - but reject the structure he is working with.

I know I will get hammered here, but another sacking would be amateur, damaging and destabilising for the club and our future credibility.

I’m certainly in the camp of other people moving on/change of personnel ahead of any sacking of manager. Any other manager in the same environment and just a circle of battling away with same problems and 6 month tenures.

Suspect he’s a goner though.

[Is It On....]

"I’m sick to death of the mediocrity. We need to move players out in January."

Pretty sure Terry Butcher said something similar and we know how that ended. The manager absolutely should NOT say that in public. It's deeply unprofessional and he needs to be the first to be cleared out with Recruitment department people next before more damage is done.

[Keepthefaith]

Don't sack him Hibs. We cant keep doing this. It's the dumbest business model. It's the recruitment structure which is failing us badly. RG must see that now and make a call on his sons dept.
I think LJ will be ruthless in Jan and i genuinely still think he has what it takes. We need to let him see things through.


We all need to hold our nerve here, get a perspective and back the manager - but reject the structure he is working with.

I know I will get hammered here, but another sacking would be amateur, damaging and destabilising for the club and our future credibility.

Well we're true to our names! I do agree with you, really don't think more instability is the answer. He's got to do better himself too though for sure, but I'd give him the window and back him.

[A Hi-Bee]

I wish we were mediocre. Would be a massive improvement on our current condition.

This is something for Hibs to aspire to, we are mince, get Neil Lennon back to Easter Road and let him set about the board and the players.

[Scorrie]

"I’m sick to death of the mediocrity. We need to move players out in January."

Pretty sure Terry Butcher said something similar and we know how that ended. The manager absolutely should NOT say that in public. It's deeply unprofessional and he needs to be the first to be cleared out with Recruitment department people next before more damage is done.

To be honest that interview sounds like he’s had enough anyway. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s away tomorrow and he’d be quite glad to

[bingo70]

Seemed pretty genuine to me.

Personally thought it was a lot of drivel.

If eh thought Gintsy and Geadsy were braver on the ball then that shouldn’t have come as a shock to him. Out that starting 11, who did he genuinely expect to perform those roles and be brave on the ball?

He genuinely can’t be surprised by the improvement in the second half.

[e2los]

Don't sack him Hibs. We cant keep doing this. It's the dumbest business model. It's the recruitment structure which is failing us badly. RG must see that now and make a call on his sons dept.
I think LJ will be ruthless in Jan and i genuinely still think he has what it takes. We need to let him see things through.

We all need to hold our nerve here, get a perspective and back the manager - but reject the structure he is working with.

I know I will get hammered here, but another sacking would be amateur, damaging and destabilising for the club and our future credibility.

You deserve to be hammered for saying that.

At the end of the day he is not a good manager for us.

Today was literally the last of many chances he had to save his job.

I wish LJ all the best in his future career.

[Carheenlea]

We s******s, a kid on tear, ffs get this man to ****** away from our club, he has obviously taking tips from Matt Hancock.

I have to say though, he looked physically unwell and stressed on numerous occasions during the game when camera panned his way.

Doesn’t look well in the interviews.

I’m no expert, but things look to me to be taking their toll and it’s not nice to see.

[silverhibee]

Seemed pretty genuine to me.

Not for me it wasn’t the man is a chancer, rather than doing this chat why not just sort things at EM, Kyle & Aiden should have both started the game today, starting the guy Fish was a monstrous decision.

[Unseen work]

https://twitter.com/jackmorrison94/status/1609995809264631808?s=46&t=8SDRtHTFxUT-Gs8810000A

So the rumours begin.

Jack is at every game so imagine he knows some people at the club, no idea if accurate though.

[B.H.F.C]

Don't sack him Hibs. We cant keep doing this. It's the dumbest business model. It's the recruitment structure which is failing us badly. RG must see that now and make a call on his sons dept.
I think LJ will be ruthless in Jan and i genuinely still think he has what it takes. We need to let him see things through.

We all need to hold our nerve here, get a perspective and back the manager - but reject the structure he is working with.

I know I will get hammered here, but another sacking would be amateur, damaging and destabilising for the club and our future credibility.

I don’t disagree about trying to retain some stability. But any manager, at any club, will very rarely survive the run he’s on. I really don’t think he can complain if he finds himself gone.

[Scorrie]

https://twitter.com/jackmorrison94/status/1609995809264631808?s=46&t=8SDRtHTFxUT-Gs8810000A

So the rumours begin.

Jack is at every game so imagine he knows some people at the club, no idea if accurate though.

A pretty classless tweet.

[The Baldmans Comb]

That team selection was a suicide note from an utterly arrogant man who regards Scottish football as a wee experiment for his so called football ideas.

See my pre match post where I said exactly the same thing so this is not hindsight.

Its in his make up to look down on Scottish football from the moment he disrespected the league cup opposition, or thought he could attack Celtic away from home or today when he saw no need to match up against Hearts strongest area in midfield of Devlin, Halliday and Mackay.

Yet another game was lost before it even kicked off through lazy arrogance and a failure to respect the opposition.

He can't change and should be sacked before he does any more damage and trusting him in the January transfer window based on his signings so far is beyond madness.

[cameronw-hfc]

https://twitter.com/jackmorrison94/status/1609995809264631808?s=46&t=8SDRtHTFxUT-Gs8810000A

So the rumours begin.

Jack is at every game so imagine he knows some people at the club, no idea if accurate though.
Just posted on the priv board I heard the same. Same person that told me about the recruitment/dof when I posted about that on there so seems to be a decent source, I guess I'll know in the morning.

Do want to stress, I've been told about the DoF from multiple people and Lee being sacked from one, so don't shoot the messenger, just relaying info I'm getting. If it's good then great if not then I'll no pass info again

[Heisenberg]

He might be being honest, but it's taken him way too long to realise everything that is wrong.

Players have been here too long / need time to settle. I mean, come on. It's excuse after excuse.

He literally does not know what he's doing or how to fix it.

Just listened to it again, it's slavering nonsense mostly, begging to keep his job.

Agree with you. He told us he watched games at the tail end of last season and yet he came in and signed the players he did? Mental.

[cameronw-hfc]

That team selection was a suicide note from an utterly arrogant man who regards Scottish football as a wee experiment for his so called football ideas.

See my pre match post where I said exactly the same thing so this is not hindsight.

Its in his make up to look down on Scottish football from the moment he disrespected the league cup opposition, or thought he could attack Celtic away from home or today when he saw no need to match up against Hearts strongest area in midfield of Devlin, Halliday and Mackay.

Yet another game was lost before it even kicked off through lazy arrogance and a failure to respect the opposition.

He can't change and should be sacked before he does anymore damage and trusting him in the January transfer window based on his signings so far is beyond madness.


In fairness, we have our best results vs the old firm when we attack them. It didn't work that day but would say the Celtic game is probably the one game I won't judge him on. I wouldn't be upset if he was sacked, not calling for his head yet myself but think the Celtic point was a bit harsh.

[B.H.F.C]

Not for me it wasn’t the man is a chancer, rather than doing this chat why not just sort things at EM, Kyle & Aiden should have both started the game today, starting the guy Fish was a monstrous decision.

This is where I am. Loads of chat about fixing things and knowing what needs fixed. Very little evidence of doing anything to actually fix things though. Or having the ability to fix things

[e2los]

https://twitter.com/jackmorrison94/status/1609995809264631808?s=46&t=8SDRtHTFxUT-Gs8810000A

So the rumours begin.

Jack is at every game so imagine he knows some people at the club, no idea if accurate though.

Fair play to move him on for poor performance/results.

Too much for me:

good riddance ya useless midget

I don't care if our manager is 4FT or 7 FT as long as they get something out of our team.

[Dmas]

Not for me it wasn’t the man is a chancer, rather than doing this chat why not just sort things at EM, Kyle & Aiden should have both started the game today, starting the guy Fish was a monstrous decision.

People were screaming on fish replacing Hanlon last week how’s is it a bad decision now? Because the guy made a mistake and you have benefit of hindsight?

[Unseen work]

Just posted on the priv board I heard the same. Same person that told me about the recruitment/dof when I posted about that on there so seems to be a decent source, I guess I'll know in the morning.

Is there anything in the recruitment chat with Ian Gordon no longer in his position and a DOF coming in?

I read a rumour a replacement had been lined up if Johnson lost today.

Would make sense if the DoF was in place and has identified his manager which will all be announced and the same time

[Leith Green]

People were screaming on fish replacing Hanlon last week how’s is it a bad decision now? Because the guy made a mistake and you have benefit of hindsight?

Because it was his first start , in an edinburgh derby. And in a right back position.. Surely u arent being serious 🫣

[cameronw-hfc]

Is there anything in the recruitment chat with Ian Gordon no longer in his position and a DOF coming in?

I read a rumour a replacement had been lined up if Johnson lost today.

Would make sense if the DoF was in place and has identified his manager which will all be announced and the same time

It was me that posted that first I think. All I can say is I've been told there's a DoF coming in, 3 candidates have been selected, one being Danish, one being Steve Keane and one other. Also heard the board have been prepping for Lee to go since the WC break.

I heard originally it wouldn't be until the end of the season, but I imagine this will expedite things massively. Source is someone that works at the club, can't say much else apologies.

[GreenGray]

It was me that posted that first I think. All I can say is I've been told there's a DoF coming in, 3 candidates have been selected, one being Danish, one being Steve Keane and one other. Also heard the board have been prepping for Lee to go since the WC break.

I heard originally it wouldn't be until the end of the season, but I imagine this will expedite things massively. Source is someone that works at the club, can't say much else apologies.

So either Gray or Keane? How inspiring.


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[Paulie Walnuts]

People were screaming on fish replacing Hanlon last week how’s is it a bad decision now? Because the guy made a mistake and you have benefit of hindsight?

He didn’t replace Hanlon though. He got thrown into a position he doesn’t even play and had a disaster. Nobody was screaming for him to come in out of position.

[cameronw-hfc]

So either Gray or Keane? How inspiring.


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No, I don't know if he's in running for gaffer job, but he 100% was in running for the DoF. Not sure where you got gray from

[Cod Boy]

People were screaming on fish replacing Hanlon last week how’s is it a bad decision now? Because the guy made a mistake and you have benefit of hindsight?

Don’t think folk expected the manager to play Fish right back.

[Unseen work]

It was me that posted that first I think. All I can say is I've been told there's a DoF coming in, 3 candidates have been selected, one being Danish, one being Steve Keane and one other. Also heard the board have been prepping for Lee to go since the WC break.

I heard originally it wouldn't be until the end of the season, but I imagine this will expedite things massively. Source is someone that works at the club, can't say much else apologies.

No worries mate, appreciate the info.

[GreenGray]

No, I don't know if he's in running for gaffer job, but he 100% was in running for the DoF. Not sure where you got gray from

My bad I’ve read that last sentence wrong. I thought you meant your source reckons the person replacing Johnson works for the club already. Apologies.


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[LunasBoots]

People were screaming on fish replacing Hanlon last week how’s is it a bad decision now? Because the guy made a mistake and you have benefit of hindsight?

Lee must of been reading the forums 🫣

[Aldo]

Not for me it wasn’t the man is a chancer, rather than doing this chat why not just sort things at EM, Kyle & Aiden should have both started the game today, starting the guy Fish was a monstrous decision.

Correct Silver.

I hope he didn’t deliberately put that team out today as an ‘up yours’ to Ron and co!

[Hibees1973]

First of all, I still maintain our main problems are with Ron, his son & Kensall. A whole lot has gone on at Hibs in the last couple of years has been distasteful. I've heard a whole load of stuff which has ripped the heart out of the club and turned good Hibs people off.

However, Johnson's team selection today merits him being sacked. Even by this dubious threesome.

To give Fish his first start today, play McKirdy and drop Magennis (who looked fit enough when he came on) was unbelievable.

[Northernhibee]

Don't sack him Hibs. We cant keep doing this. It's the dumbest business model. It's the recruitment structure which is failing us badly. RG must see that now and make a call on his sons dept.
I think LJ will be ruthless in Jan and i genuinely still think he has what it takes. We need to let him see things through.

We all need to hold our nerve here, get a perspective and back the manager - but reject the structure he is working with.

I know I will get hammered here, but another sacking would be amateur, damaging and destabilising for the club and our future credibility.
I agree with you largely.

[Unseen work]

Got a hunch the new manager will be Tam Courts.

Can see him fitting the criteria well of having a DoF above him, young, done well at United and out of a job so would be able to speak to the club and any potential DoF coming in

Personally don’t rate him however and don’t think United fans did either

[Trinity Hibee]

Got a hunch the new manager will be Tam Courts.

Can see him fitting the criteria well of having a DoF above him, young, done well at United and out of a job so would be able to speak to the club and any potential DoF coming in

Personally don’t rate him however and don’t think United fans did either

Oh Jesus, no

[BoomtownHibees]

Got a hunch the new manager will be Tam Courts.

Can see him fitting the criteria well of having a DoF above him, young, done well at United and out of a job so would be able to speak to the club and any potential DoF coming in

Personally don’t rate him however and don’t think United fans did either

Please God no

[chrisski33]

This is where I am. Loads of chat about fixing things and knowing what needs fixed. Very little evidence of doing anything to actually fix things though. Or having the ability to fix things

Hes all talk.

[CapitalGreen]

People were screaming on fish replacing Hanlon last week how’s is it a bad decision now? Because the guy made a mistake and you have benefit of hindsight?

Can’t remember seeing anyone calling for him to play right back.

[B.H.F.C]

Got a hunch the new manager will be Tam Courts.

Can see him fitting the criteria well of having a DoF above him, young, done well at United and out of a job so would be able to speak to the club and any potential DoF coming in

Personally don’t rate him however and don’t think United fans did either

I’d rather stick with what we have.

[Dmas]

Don’t think folk expected the manager to play Fish right back.

Quite a clamour for cadden not to play RB after last week as well

[Cod Boy]

Quite a clamour for cadden not to play RB after last week as well

But nobody mentioned fish at right back either

[Hibees1973]

Heard from a reliable source that Steve Kean will be our new manager.

Looks like an interim arrangement to start with.

[JohnM1875]

Heard from a reliable source that Steve Kean will be our new manager.

Looks like an interim arrangement to start with.

Good

[Greencore]

Heard from a reliable source that Steve Kean will be our new manager.

Looks like an interim arrangement to start with.

Highly rated by the coaching staff too.

Our support ??????

[Unseen work]

Heard from a reliable source that Steve Kean will be our new manager.

Looks like an interim arrangement to start with.

Meltdown in 3,2….

[GreenCastle]

If Johnson goes and McAllister also - will McAllister’s son suddenly leave the club too?!!

[Greencore]

If Johnson goes and McAllister also - will McAllister’s son suddenly leave the club too?!!

Heard his son is meant to be gash, never seen him play, can anyone confirm this or is my source pulling my leg

[Nicho87]

Hibs going into another transitional period

Oh we’re always in one ….

[Willis1875]

Quite a clamour for cadden not to play RB after last week as well

Yep to play in his apparent more natural position where he is also gash

[Steven79]

Heard his son is meant to be gash, never seen him play, can anyone confirm this or is my source pulling my legWouldn't surprise me.

That's money that should have went on the first team.

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[The Spaceman]

Would wish him all the best if he is leaving. Issues at our club run far, far deeper than him. If he is sacked, I fully expect Ben Kensell and Ian Gordon to be reading their P45s at the same time as well.

What a mess.

[04Sauzee]

Heard from a reliable source that Steve Kean will be our new manager.

Looks like an interim arrangement to start with.

Surely the only source that would know that would be Ron, Kensell,or maybe Kean?

[Scotty Leither]

Would wish him all the best if he is leaving. Issues at our club run far, far deeper than him. If he is sacked, I fully expect Ben Kensell and Ian Gordon to be reading their P45s at the same time as well.

What a mess.

If Johnson goes, I suspect there will be a reshuffle at Board level, his laddie will be gently pushed aside with no apologies offered for his role in the **** show, and Gordon snr will waffle some ***** about our sponsorship deals and ermmm… that will be it.

[ScottB]

Surely the only source that would know that would be Ron, Kensell,or maybe Kean?

If it’s happening in the morning, I’d assume legal people, PR, comms etc etc would all be in the loop by now, as well as friends / family / late night Greggs staff…

[stokesmessiah]

Just had two messages saying he is gone....

[BlackSheep]

Just had two messages saying he is gone....

Same. 2 different sources at the club as well.

[04Sauzee]

If it’s happening in the morning, I’d assume legal people, PR, comms etc etc would all be in the loop by now, as well as friends / family / late night Greggs staff…

Late night Greggs staff did make me chuckle 😅

[Callum_62]

Heard his son is meant to be gash, never seen him play, can anyone confirm this or is my source pulling my legId very much doubt it giving how rated he is

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[Greencore]

Id very much doubt it giving how rated he is

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Rated from who?

[bingo70]

Heard from a reliable source that Steve Kean will be our new manager.

Looks like an interim arrangement to start with.

Would probably end up working quite well i think.

Switched on guy that knows what he’s doing. Also had some success with the younger side.

[cameronw-hfc]

Id very much doubt it giving how rated he is

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That's utter tripe. A lot of players and coaches are very, very impressed with him. He's joined a settled and good team, so he wasn't going to walk right in. Is he no only 16 as well? We got him ahead of a few big clubs as well. Don't turn on the lad just because his dad isn't doing a good job
Let him make his own path without being dragged down by whatever his dad does.

[04Sauzee]

That's utter tripe. A lot of players and coaches are very, very impressed with him. He's joined a settled and good team, so he wasn't going to walk right in. Is he no only 16 as well? We got him ahead of a few big clubs as well. Don't turn on the lad just because his dad isn't doing a good job
Let him make his own path without being dragged down by whatever his dad does.
Not sure the poster was turning on him?

[JamesHFC]

👋 all the best, Lee.

[Callum_62]

That's utter tripe. A lot of players and coaches are very, very impressed with him. He's joined a settled and good team, so he wasn't going to walk right in. Is he no only 16 as well? We got him ahead of a few big clubs as well. Don't turn on the lad just because his dad isn't doing a good job
Let him make his own path without being dragged down by whatever his dad does.I think you misunderstood

I said I doubt he's gash, as he's rated

I'm doing the opposite of turning on the lad

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[Unseen work]

👋 all the best, Lee.

Confirmed?

[JamesHFC]

Confirmed?

Announcement tomorrow apparently. Heard the same as others.

[Hibernian Verse]

Announcement tomorrow apparently. Heard the same as others.

As usual, the buck stops at the manager but it seems to bypass the recruitment team on the way down.

[CB_NO3]

He is going nowhere ffs. God Hibs fans are dumb

[JammyDoidger]

He's away.

[CL0762]

Going against the grain but the source I’ve heard has said it’s ‘absolute nonsense’.

[ScottB]

Late night Greggs staff did make me chuckle 😅

Late night Greggs always improves the mood I find!

[JohnM1875]

Just watched his post match interview and it really pisses me off cause I absolutely agree with him. Which again makes me question the players. The same played that have seen the previous managers sacked.

I'd give him til the summer. Especially if the alternative is Gray or Keane

[CB_NO3]

He's away.

Name your source?

[Greencore]

Name your source?

And then the source finds out that people knew he blabbed and tells the poster nothing like this again?

[04Sauzee]

Going against the grain but the source I’ve heard has said it’s ‘absolute nonsense’.

Probably is

[Bridge hibs]

Announcement tomorrow apparently. Heard the same as others.Think your chain is getting yanked mate

[JohnM1875]

Announcement tomorrow apparently. Heard the same as others.

Same source that said Porto had signed an extension and McKirdy wasn't starting today? 😉

[cameronw-hfc]

Name your source?


What a ridiculous thing to ask. Nobody in their right mind gives up a source, it's common knowledge. Silly thing to ask.

[Not In The Know]

Can’t remember seeing anyone calling for him to play right back.

Bang on.

Porto in midfield. On loan young centre half at right back

Bonkers.

[04Sauzee]

Same source that said Porto has signed an extension and McKirdy wasn't starting today? 😉

Was there not talk of Hibs trying to get McLean from Norwich as well? Get confused with who says what on here 😃

[BlackSheep]

During the game my group of pals and I were all talking about what would be cheaper… getting rid of LJ or a squad overhaul….

I think settled on getting rid of LJ would be the cheaper option, with the board assuming they can find a manager who will get a tune out of current squad….

[JamesHFC]

Same source that said Porto had signed an extension and McKirdy wasn't starting today? 😉

Actually a different source to the one who told me what the team and formation would be today 😉

[JammyDoidger]

Name your source?

A pal of one of our players that are running out of contract.

[SaulGoodman]

During the game my group of pals and I were all talking about what would be cheaper… getting rid of LJ or a squad overhaul….

I think settled on getting rid of LJ would be the cheaper option, with the board assuming they can find a manager who will get a tune out of current squad….

John Williams couldn’t get a tune out of our current squad. If Johnson goes they’ll have seen off 3 managers now and they’ll quite happily see off a fourth unless they’re shifted.

[Bobby's Cinema]

If LJ goes less than a year into the job, how does Ron reflect on his previous interview where he'd said Maloney was rushed but with LJ they took the time to get it right. Blundering our way through seasons where the European prize on offer has been better than ever.

Not sure where we go from here.

[Mutu]

https://twitter.com/Football_Scot/status/1610009948636991488?s=20&t=1YoOEGRRGfGGWjjvCVFfZg


Okay he's gone full scorched Earth now. He's surely gone.

[J-C]

Sick of the mediocrity....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzZhTkSH2AM


When a manager starts having sly pot shot digs at the owners/hierarchy then we all know his time is at an end, saying we need to be more professional right through the club is basically saying the owner hasn't a clue, bye bye Lee.

[silverhibee]

People were screaming on fish replacing Hanlon last week how’s is it a bad decision now? Because the guy made a mistake and you have benefit of hindsight?

I must have missed all the shouts for Fish to start, how many games has he played for Hibs that all those folk thought that.

And it was more than one mistake.

[Gloucester Hibs]

If LJ goes less than a year into the job, how does Ron reflect on his previous interview where he'd said Maloney was rushed but with LJ they took the time to get it right. Blundering our way through seasons where the European prize on offer has been better than ever.

Not sure where we go from here.

IIRC you had both Ron’s laddie and BK dotting about London for an eternity “to get the appointment right” 🤦🏼*♂️

[hibsbollah]

Just watched his post match interview and it really pisses me off cause I absolutely agree with him. Which again makes me question the players. The same played that have seen the previous managers sacked.

I'd give him til the summer. Especially if the alternative is Gray or Keane

It was a good response from him. He’s responsible for what happens on the pitch but I liked the response.

I really think this is an issue of recruitment.

[ShetlandHibby]

Anyone saying keep him is an undercover hearts fan.

He’s proved to be useless. Strange tactical decisions and talks nonsense.

[Bobby's Cinema]

https://twitter.com/Football_Scot/status/1610009948636991488?s=20&t=1YoOEGRRGfGGWjjvCVFfZg


Okay he's gone full scorched Earth now. He's surely gone.
Ooft.

[h1bs4life]

https://twitter.com/football_scot/status/1610009948636991488?s=46&t=V-CTjkx0Wra9MCJxdIy6bA

Makes a good point but can’t see the power that be being happy with this

[S4uzee]

Actually a different source to the one who told me what the team and formation would be today 😉

Same one he was sacked after Killie away?

[Hibees1973]

Actually a different source to the one who told me what the team and formation would be today 😉

I have doubted (wrongly in the past) your sources.

Makes the source of the information I have more concrete.

[CB_NO3]

A pal of one of our players that are running out of contract.

The same pal who just tweeted me he is at the wind up.

[One Day Soon]

His decision to start Fish and McKirdy in a derby smacked to me of some of Lennon’s later bizarre selection decisions. Pretty much a statement to the owner of ‘this is what we have once Porto goes and if Nisbet is sold or becomes injured’.

Any Hibs manager choosing to do that in a derby should have their jotters in the morning.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Ooft.

Why is he even entertaining questions on RP FFS? 😞

[silverhibee]

Would probably end up working quite well i think.

Switched on guy that knows what he’s doing. Also had some success with the younger side.

Seems to be quite liked at the club, had a wee chat with him about a month ago and seems a down to earth guy.

[JamesHFC]

Same one he was sacked after Killie away?

Didn't claim that he was, just stated I expected he would be.

[ehf]

His decision to start Fish and McKirdy in a derby smacked to me of some of Lennon’s later bizarre selection decisions. Pretty much a statement to the owner of ‘this is what we have once Porto goes and if Nisbet is sold or becomes injured’.

Any Hibs manager choosing to do that in a derby should have their jotters in the morning.

:agree: Disrespecting the club and the fans for his own ends, which is inexcusable.

[CB_NO3]

What a ridiculous thing to ask. Nobody in their right mind gives up a source, it's common knowledge. Silly thing to ask.

Better than being an attention seeker talking mince.

[bingo70]

Seems to be quite liked at the club, had a wee chat with him about a month ago and seems a down to earth guy.

I’ve got mates who have boys at the academy and they say Kean is excellent.

Obviously a different job to the first team but he’s also had success managing the younger age group in the European games as well as wining a league abroad and premiership experience with Blackburn.

Probably not someone we would give a long term contract tk straight away but short term I’m pretty sure he would be a safe pair of hands to see how he does.

[JamesHFC]

I have doubted (wrongly in the past) your sources.

Makes the source of the information I have more concrete.

I just share what I hear. Whether people want to believe it or not is up to them 👍

[Mr Grieves]

Why will sacking LJ make a difference?

It won't. This goes higher than the manager and the fuds that own us need to employ someone that know's how to to run a football club.

[silverhibee]

If Johnson goes and McAllister also - will McAllister’s son suddenly leave the club too?!!

Did we pay money for him.

[Trinity Hibee]

Did we pay money for him.

“BristolWorld understands that the actual figure for McAllister is closer to £250,000 initially and rising up to £500,000 if all clauses are met in the deal, rather than the figure of €130,000 (£110,000) reported at the weekend.

Those clauses would likely include future national representation and that may not be outlandish, as the player has been on the Scotland national side radar at multiple youth levels for some time.

Sources in Scotland suggest that the compensation for the player is a more than fair outcome for Bristol City.”

[Hibees1973]

It won't. This goes higher than the manager and the fuds that own us need to employ someone that know's how to to run a football club.

Yes, but sadly this is all that is going to happen in the short term.

I've called out Ron's failings for the last couple of years on numerous threads. I've been labelled negative, a roaster and even worse a Yam. It saddens me that Ron is going to be here for some time and indirectly embarrass the club on the field.

Much as Hibs have been a poor team to watch as various points in my lifetime, I really believe our owner is incompetent managing a football club. Guys like him should be nowhere near a football club which is at the heart of Edinburgh and it's local community.

[Nutmegged]

The squad is absolutely rotten, we have three players you could hang your hat on, Porteous who is offski imminently, Nisbet who is just back after a serious nine month injury and Boyle who's out injured, the rest are just drifters, we're in a relegation dog fight this season, our saving grace is that there's a couple of teams as rotten as us.

We need a manager who can get results, Ideally I want a manager who can come in and give us an identity again and you can look two years down the road and have a genuine belief we're heading in the right direction but at the moment we need to make sure we stay in the League, we all know how hard it is to get out of The Championship.

The lack of leadership throughout the entire club is alarming.

[GreenGray]

https://twitter.com/football_scot/status/1610009948636991488?s=46&t=V-CTjkx0Wra9MCJxdIy6bA

Makes a good point but can’t see the power that be being happy with this

Another poor historic decision was hiring you pal.


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[Hibees1973]

“BristolWorld understands that the actual figure for McAllister is closer to £250,000 initially and rising up to £500,000 if all clauses are met in the deal, rather than the figure of €130,000 (£110,000) reported at the weekend.

Those clauses would likely include future national representation and that may not be outlandish, as the player has been on the Scotland national side radar at multiple youth levels for some time.

Sources in Scotland suggest that the compensation for the player is a more than fair outcome for Bristol City.”

Those sums are extraordinary for a club like Hibs to pay for a 16 year old.

Even more strange when his dad is the assistant manager.

Mind you our owner has his son (a sommelier) as head of recruitment.

Really, you could not make this stuff up.

[Keepthefaith]

Yes, but sadly this is all that is going to happen in the short term.

I've called out Ron's failings for the last couple of years on numerous threads. I've been labelled negative, a roaster and even worse a Yam. It saddens me that Ron is going to be here for some time and indirectly embarrass the club on the field.

Much as Hibs have been a poor team to watch as various points in my lifetime, I really believe our owner is incompetent managing a football club. Guys like him should be nowhere near a football club which is at the heart of Edinburgh and it's local community.

I think you're unfair in your catastrophising of his approach to the club. Hibs are still very much a community club, and much of what he's done on the commercial side has been much needed...all part of being a successful business.

The main thing he's got wrong, is having his son involved in recruitment and as such any failings there were always going to prove problematic. Our recruitment clearly hasn't been good enough. However it's right to have the long term plans to " grow our own" and make the investments necessary to have the foundations for sustainable success.

Having defended lee, I do get a red flag when managers publicly slate players so not sure if he can survive, but I'm not sure where you think the magic money or perfect new owner will come from if Ron is hounded out??

[S4uzee]

The squad is absolutely rotten, we have three players you could hang your hat on, Porteous who is offski imminently, Nisbet who is just back after a serious nine month injury and Boyle who's out injured, the rest are just drifters, we're in a relegation dog fight this season, our saving grace is that there's a couple of teams as rotten as us.

We need a manager who can get results, Ideally I want a manager who can come in and give us an identity again and you can look two years down the road and have a genuine belief we're heading in the right direction but at the moment we need to make sure we stay in the League, we all know how hard it is to get out of The Championship.

The lack of leadership throughout the entire club is alarming.

You’d hang your hat on nisbet?

[007]

Heard his son is meant to be gash, never seen him play, can anyone confirm this or is my source pulling my leg

Is your source a Hearts fan? If so, then it is probably BS.

[GreenCastle]

I think you're unfair in your catastrophising of his approach to the club. Hibs are still very much a community club, and much of what he's done on the commercial side has been much needed...all part of being a successful business.

The main thing he's got wrong, is having his son involved in recruitment and as such any failings there were always going to prove problematic. Our recruitment clearly hasn't been good enough. However it's right to have the long term plans to " grow our own" and make the investments necessary to have the foundations for sustainable success.

Having defended lee, I do get a red flag when managers publicly slate players so not sure if he can survive, but I'm not sure where you think the magic money or perfect new owner will come from if Ron is hounded out??

Recruitment of 2 poor managers and handing out comfortable contracts to several dross players who are now undroppable.

[mcohibs]

Not sure LJ can survive his comments about the ownership and his public slating of the players (albeit warranted) I can’t see ending well.

[hibsbollah]

The squad is absolutely rotten, we have three players you could hang your hat on, Porteous who is offski imminently, Nisbet who is just back after a serious nine month injury and Boyle who's out injured, the rest are just drifters, we're in a relegation dog fight this season, our saving grace is that there's a couple of teams as rotten as us.

We need a manager who can get results, Ideally I want a manager who can come in and give us an identity again and you can look two years down the road and have a genuine belief we're heading in the right direction but at the moment we need to make sure we stay in the League, we all know how hard it is to get out of The Championship.

The lack of leadership throughout the entire club is alarming.

You’d hang your hat on Porteous?

[B.H.F.C]

Not sure LJ can survive his comments about the ownership and his public slating of the players (albeit warranted) I can’t see ending well.

Agree. Some of his comments today feel to me like he knows what is coming and he’s just thought “**** it, I’m saying what I think”.

[Mantis Toboggan]

His decision to start Fish and McKirdy in a derby smacked to me of some of Lennon’s later bizarre selection decisions. Pretty much a statement to the owner of ‘this is what we have once Porto goes and if Nisbet is sold or becomes injured’.

Any Hibs manager choosing to do that in a derby should have their jotters in the morning.

Particularly when one of the picks decides to gift a goal to a team causing us no issues through their own play. Fish was garbage, hard to believe that after waiting for this chance he comes out with that.

[Real Emerald]

https://twitter.com/football_scot/status/1610009948636991488?s=46&t=V-CTjkx0Wra9MCJxdIy6bA

Makes a good point but can’t see the power that be being happy with this

Yes, he’s having a go at the owners which he wouldn’t do if he had a future here. It’s maybe not the done thing to lay blame elsewhere as he deserves some of it as well. However, the owners seem to have no clue how to run a football club with daft policies with their recruitment strategy. I hope he calls them out and spills the beans on how much say he has had (or not) on the players singed.

He’s away

[Iain G]

Those sums are extraordinary for a club like Hibs to pay for a 16 year old.

Even more strange when his dad is the assistant manager.

Mind you our owner has his son (a sommelier) as head of recruitment.

Really, you could not make this stuff up.

Like when Alex Miller had his kids in the squad, or Darren Ferguson at Man Utd or Paul Dalglish at Newcastle? It's clearly something that does not have to be "made up" 🤣

So much ***** being spouted on here so people can be the most outraged Hibs fan today 🤣

McAllister Jnr is supposed to be a great prospect and did well at Bristol. Or are we writing him off without seeing him?

[Gatecrasher]

Agree. Some of his comments today feel to me like he knows what is coming and he’s just thought “**** it, I’m saying what I think”.

He probably knows he's away and is putting pressure on those above, and rightly so.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Like when Alex Miller had his kids in the squad, or Darren Ferguson at Man Utd or Paul Dalglish at Newcastle? It's clearly something that does not have to be "made up" 🤣

So much ***** being spouted on here so people can be the most outraged Hibs fan today 🤣

McAllister Jnr is supposed to be a great prospect and did well at Bristol. Or are we writing him off without seeing him?

Did these clubs pay some of the largest fees they’ve ever paid for a player for these guys when they were just 16?

[GreenCastle]

Did these clubs pay some of the largest fees they’ve ever paid for a player for these guys when they were just 16?\

Especially when the 1st team were needing players!

Let's see if the management are sacked how long the young player stays at Hibs.

[Iain G]

\

Especially when the 1st team were needing players!

Let's see if the management are sacked how long the young player stays at Hibs.

Until someone makes an acceptable offer for him? He will still be a Hibs player regardless of whether his Dad is still here

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Yes, he’s having a go at the owners which he wouldn’t do if he had a future here. It’s maybe not the done thing to lay blame elsewhere as he deserves some of it as well. However, the owners seem to have no clue how to run a football club with daft policies with their recruitment strategy. I hope he calls them out and spills the beans on how much say he has had (or not) on the players singed.

He’s away

Yes, he's finished.

[Iain G]

Yes, he's finished.

He has put down a marker, let's see if they back him, sack him or he walks after they fail to back him.

[Not In The Know]

When a manager starts having sly pot shot digs at the owners/hierarchy then we all know his time is at an end, saying we need to be more professional right through the club is basically saying the owner hasn't a clue, bye bye Lee.

professional right through the club

ooft. That’s all in there

[paddy1875]

Good post... if he really was "up the dancing" or if posing for a photo was concrete evidence of him not caring.

Turn yourself in mate. Our manager wants punted


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[Not In The Know]

Those sums are extraordinary for a club like Hibs to pay for a 16 year old.

Even more strange when his dad is the assistant manager.

Mind you our owner has his son (a sommelier) as head of recruitment.

Really, you could not make this stuff up.

Pipe down.
His dads prob on 100k a year at hibs. As “relocation” packages go if we were all expecting things to work out well that fees nothing.

[blackpoolhibs]

It was a good response from him. He’s responsible for what happens on the pitch but I liked the response.

I really think this is an issue of recruitment.
:agree: It's been going on since the Gordons arrived, Ross patched a team together that in the cup games failed, but did get us European football.

You could tell he was frustrated with the players he was allowed to sign, Maloney too, now LJ.

Since the Gordons arrived, we've plummeted downwards after a good start, their managemnt and strategy stinks.

[Ozyhibby]

:agree: It's been going on since the Gordons arrived, Ross patched a team together that in the cup games failed, but did get us European football.

You could tell he was frustrated with the players he was allowed to sign, Maloney too, now LJ.

Since the Gordons arrived, we've plummeted downwards after a good start, their managemnt and strategy stinks.

Ross’s record in cups was good?


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[eastmainsmsh]

Turn yourself in mate. Our manager wants punted


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Cleverly working his ticket lee

[Steven79]

Cleverly working his ticket leeCan you blame him?

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[Steven79]

Ross’s record in cups was good?


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As I've said elsewhere it makes you wonder where we would be right now if we had backed Jack in that summer...

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[skyehibee]

Are we expecting an announcement today then as all the in the know folk mentioned yesterday?

[zitelli62]

Would kill for semi's and finals every season again.

As I've said elsewhere it makes you wonder where we would be right now if we had backed Jack in that summer...

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Would just kill for a semi.

[silverhibee]

Are we expecting an announcement today then as all the in the know folk mentioned yesterday?

I think tomorrow, it’s still sort of holiday time today, hopefully done tomorrow and we go again on Sunday at Motherwell with Keane Gray or McGregor as interim manager.

[Sir David Gray]

Are we expecting an announcement today then as all the in the know folk mentioned yesterday?

I am surprised that it hasn't been announced yet considering the number of people stating it as a fact last night, although I do take the point that today is a holiday in Scotland so perhaps we'll get something tomorrow.

If nothing is announced tomorrow I think he will be remaining in charge and all the talk last night has been nonsense.

[H18 SFR]

I think tomorrow, it’s still sort of holiday time today, hopefully done tomorrow and we go again on Sunday at Motherwell with Keane Gray or McGregor as interim manager.

Surely Gray will be leaving as well? He’s been a part of three really poor coaching teams?

[LewysGot2]

I am surprised that it hasn't been announced yet considering the number of people stating it as a fact last night, although I do take the point that today is a holiday in Scotland so perhaps we'll get something tomorrow.

If nothing is announced tomorrow I think he will be remaining in charge and all the talk last night has been nonsense.

Why would a public holiday stop anything happening?

Especially if there’s simply a caretaker situation going to happen.

Weird…

[MrRobot]

i don’t think he’ll be away, we would have just announced it last night if so.

[Northernhibee]

Would just kill for a semi.
We all get to that age.

[K-Zazu]

Surely Gray will be leaving as well? He’s been a part of three really poor coaching teams?

He needs punted as well

[Steven79]

He needs punted as wellYeah but he won't as people can't see past 2016....

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[Ronniekirk]

Ross’s record in cups was good?


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He got us to Hampden at every time of asking ,but playing the way he did second time v st Johnstone was so disappointing He didn’t learn from previous games and played into Their hands Maloney got us to a Final and we were leading Celtic at one point
I expect Hearts will put us out the Scottish Cup later this month and that will us out both cups this season without getting out the group stages ,or past the first round of Scottish Cup thst we played in
I hope we didn’t budget toprogress further or thst will be another hole in budget to fill

[Ronniekirk]

:agree: It's been going on since the Gordons arrived, Ross patched a team together that in the cup games failed, but did get us European football.

You could tell he was frustrated with the players he was allowed to sign, Maloney too, now LJ.

Since the Gordons arrived, we've plummeted downwards after a good start, their managemnt and strategy stinks.

and Ross went a whole season undefeated away if memory serves me right ? If not he had the most away wins in our history in one season ,or some record lol

[Since452]

Ross’s record in cups was good?


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I wouldn't say good I'd say excellent.

[Steven79]

He got us to Hampden at every time of asking ,but playing the way he did second time v st Johnstone was so disappointing He didn’t learn from previous games and played into Their hands Maloney got us to a Final and we were leading Celtic at one point
I expect Hearts will put us out the Scottish Cup later this month and that will us out both cups this season without getting out the group stages ,or past the first round of Scottish Cup thst we played in
I hope we didn’t budget toprogress further or thst will be another hole in budget to fillMaloney didn't get us to a final as that was Jack Ross who was in charge of the semi final and David Gray was in charge of the final.

Maloney had us in the Scottish Cup Semi where we bottled it yet against that lot.

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[blackpoolhibs]

Ross’s record in cups was good?


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I'd agree with that, but because he didnt win many (big) games, and didnt beat St Johnstone twice, it was used as a huge stick to beat him with when we went on that losing run.

Obviously he'd managed to get us a good league position despite those at the helm, rather than because of them, as signings strategy and results since have proved.

[Steven79]

I'd agree with that, but because he didnt win many (big) games, and didnt beat St Johnstone twice, it was used as a huge stick to beat him with when we went on that losing run.

Obviously he'd managed to get us a good league position despite those at the helm, rather than because of them, as signings strategy and results since have proved.I think with Jack Ross it was a case of "Careful what you wish for"

I think many were frustrated (myself included) that we didn't lay a glove on St Johnstone for a second time at Hampden and coupled with his result the next season I think it was easy to get on the bandwagon and assume that someone else would get take us to the "next level"

Little did we know what was to come next...

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[blackpoolhibs]

I think with Jack Ross it was a case of "Careful what you wish for"

I think many were frustrated (myself included) that we didn't lay a glove on St Johnstone for a second time at Hampden and coupled with his result the next season I think it was easy to get on the bandwagon and assume that someone else would get take us to the "next level"

Little did we know what was to come next...

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I was against his sacking at the time, more so now knowing what's going on at the top.

[LewysGot2]

He got us to Hampden at every time of asking ,but playing the way he did second time v st Johnstone was so disappointing He didn’t learn from previous games and played into Their hands Maloney got us to a Final and we were leading Celtic at one point
I expect Hearts will put us out the Scottish Cup later this month and that will us out both cups this season without getting out the group stages ,or past the first round of Scottish Cup thst we played in
I hope we didn’t budget toprogress further or thst will be another hole in budget to fill

Maloney didn’t get us to a Cup Final? Gray was caretaker manager v Celtic.

Maloney was in charge v Them at Hampden in the Scottish.

Jack Ross record in big games did for him and his conservative approach on the park.

[madhatter]

Let's bring Leeann Dempster, Lennon, Stubbs, Jack Ross et al back. We're terrible for living in the past.

Recruitment is the issue. Jack Ross would've been out the door by now anyway.

Nisbet, Doidge and Boyle kept him in the job. All take turns being injured and we are a desperate mess. Sounds familiar, eh?

[Steven79]

I was against his sacking at the time, more so now knowing what's going on at the top.With hindsight it's depressing just how far we have dropped since that summer where we didn't improve the team.

3 or 4 top quality signings and a new contract for Porto and we would have been looking at top 3/4 for a good few years.

Utterly self inflicted.

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[Pretty Boy]

With hindsight it's depressing just how far we have dropped since that summer where we didn't improve the team.

3 or 4 top quality signings and a new contract for Porto and we would have been looking at top 3/4 for a good few years.

Utterly self inflicted.

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That summer was bizarre.

Ross openly called out the recruitment after our European exit saying he wanted a CB, the club had failed to find him one and he was forced to play McGregor who was sent off. Yet we still had people across the board (fans, club officials, players) insisting it had been a successful window. The truth became clear not so long after when one person lost their job and there was a fair bit of revisionism and scapegoating of him. The windows since suggest the problem runs quite a bit deeper than that one person. Johnson's interview last night was in the same vein as Ross a couple of years ago. I was convinced Ross had his card marked from that point on and it was when not if he was going to be sacked.

For Nathan Wood see Will Fish. Same problem, different manager and a different year. The system is broken. Sacking Johnson might solve part of the problem but without significant changes elsewhere we will be having the same conversation sometime in the next year.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I would have liked a statement this morning about his departure. I don't think he can turn this around now.

[Cod Boy]

I would have liked a statement this morning about his departure. I don't think he can turn this around now.

The next announcement from Hibs will be next up Motherwell get your tickets blah blah blah.

[theonlywayisup]

Has he gone yet?

[JennaFletcher]

I would have liked a statement this morning about his departure. I don't think he can turn this around now.

100% agree.

[Iain G]

I would have liked a statement this morning about his departure. I don't think he can turn this around now.

He can if given time and players he needs

[bingo70]

I would have liked a statement this morning about his departure. I don't think he can turn this around now.

We need to do or say something.

Our own manager tore strips off the club yesterday. The clubs reaction to that can’t be radio silence.

If we are going to stick with LJ then fine but let’s address the issues that were raised yesterday so we can move on. Even if it’s some waffle to buy us time, “a review of the footballing department and changes to be made bla bla bla”

[Heisenberg]

He can if given time and players he needs

How much time does he deserve? The playing squad is poor but better than the run he’s had us on. We’ve conceded the most goals in the league.

[Iain G]

How much time does he deserve? The playing squad is poor but better than the run he’s had us on. We’ve conceded the most goals in the league.

Through to the summer at least after this upcoming transfer window

[Ozyhibby]

Maloney didn’t get us to a Cup Final? Gray was caretaker manager v Celtic.

Maloney was in charge v Them at Hampden in the Scottish.

Jack Ross record in big games did for him and his conservative approach on the park.

Problem solved as big games are now a thing of the past.


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[Heisenberg]

Through to the summer at least after this upcoming transfer window

I enjoyed the championship last time to be fair.

[Eaststand]

we all get to that age.

👏👏😁

ggtth

[bingo70]

Through to the summer at least after this upcoming transfer window

Remember we’re only 4 points above relegation play off and can only win games against 10 men.

We’ve not got the luxury of giving LJ the rest of the season just in case he turns it around.

[flash]

Remember we’re only 4 points above relegation play off and can only win games against 10 men.

We’ve not got the luxury of giving LJ the rest of the season just in case he turns it around.

And three points off 4th for the sake of balance.

[Iain G]

I enjoyed the championship last time to be fair.

Maybe it's our happy place!

We could bring Stubbs back, he liked the championship as well!

[bingo70]

And three points off 4th for the sake of balance.

Yup.

Not hugely relevant to my point though, I’m saying we can’t just give the manager time for the sake of it in the hope he might sign better players in January, we could well get relegated by then.

[bingo70]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10005965/latest-lee-johnson-hibs-future-rumours-sacked-hearts-defeat/

LJ not being sacked.

[flash]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10005965/latest-lee-johnson-hibs-future-rumours-sacked-hearts-defeat/

LJ not being sacked.

If that's the case then the next few weeks are going to be eventful.

I think he should probably go but I still hope he manages to turn things around.

[Steven79]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10005965/latest-lee-johnson-hibs-future-rumours-sacked-hearts-defeat/

LJ not being sacked.Would take that article with a pinch of salt.

No direct quotes.

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[LunasBoots]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10005965/latest-lee-johnson-hibs-future-rumours-sacked-hearts-defeat/

LJ not being sacked.

Time for the club to back him as best they can in this window, I'll give him to the SC Derby, no real improvement he can go.

[Vault Boy]

Would take that article with a pinch of salt.

No direct quotes.

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It’s what the club have been briefing the media with since last night. I don’t think there’s anything new here, but perhaps The Sun are more certain about what they’ve been told now.

[Heisenberg]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10005965/latest-lee-johnson-hibs-future-rumours-sacked-hearts-defeat/

LJ not being sacked.

He’s massively deluded if he thinks one or two signings will sort us out.

[Allant1981]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10005965/latest-lee-johnson-hibs-future-rumours-sacked-hearts-defeat/

LJ not being sacked.

Half this board had a "source" last night saying he was being sacked so can't be true

[flash]

He’s massively deluded if he thinks one or two signings will sort us out.

I doubt he thinks that at all.

[Pretty Boy]

He’s massively deluded if he thinks one or two signings will sort us out.

Short term I think 2 central midfielders and a decent CB would get us out of relegation bother and looking upwards.

Of course they have to be better than what we have and we need to keep them fit but a team in the vein of the below is better than at least 5 or 6 teams in the league:

Marshall

Cadden
Rocky
New LCB
Cabraja/Stevenson

New CM
New CM
Magennis

Youan
Nisbet
McGeady

In an ideal world a new RB would be nice as well but it's not quite as pressing as the other issues imo.

[ShetlandHibby]

What’s terry butcher up to these days?

Only kidding, obviously!! Stuck between a rock and hard place. Sack him and we have 3 sacked managers still on the payroll. We already have a massively bloated squad of useless players. A new manager will want to bring players in. We can’t get rid of the players we have. I genuinely don’t know what the answer is.

[LunasBoots]

He’s massively deluded if he thinks one or two signings will sort us out.

Hard window to pull much off in aswell, he doesn't get it right he's going to know about it.

[ancient hibee]

I
How much time does he deserve? The playing squad is poor but better than the run he’s had us on. We’ve conceded the most goals in the league.

Three goals more than Hearts.

[Steven79]

What’s terry butcher up to these days?

Only kidding, obviously!! Stuck between a rock and hard place. Sack him and we have 3 sacked managers still on the payroll. We already have a massively bloated squad of useless players. A new manager will want to bring players in. We can’t get rid of the players we have. I genuinely don’t know what the answer is.Jack Ross won't still be on the books.

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[McGruber]

Why use language like 'get rid' and 'deadwood'. He is clearly referring to players that are involved in the games on match day. How does that help. The 'get rid deadwood' players now know Johnson needs a result from them in next couple games or he is gone.

'It would be in some players interests to find a new challenge as first team opportunities will be limited here'

Not difficult but he has talked right into Terry Butcher school of demotivation.

Of course it shouldn't matter, prove him wrong, be professional - but people all react different

[McGruber]

So Johnson looks to be leading into the Jan window, wonder how many of his own signings are on his hit list and can he be trusted when his previous answer to our midfield woes was an untried academy player - now behind the pecking order to the centre half that was already at the club

[madhatter]

Why use language like 'get rid' and 'deadwood'. He is clearly referring to players that are involved in the games on match day. How does that help. The 'get rid deadwood' players now know Johnson needs a result from them in next couple games or he is gone.

'It would be in some players interests to find a new challenge as first team opportunities will be limited here'

Not difficult but he has talked right into Terry Butcher school of demotivation.

Of course it shouldn't matter, prove him wrong, be proffesional - but people all react different

Unless for once in my lifetime the chairman and the board are siding with the manager and realising that the 'deadwood' players are routinely getting managers sacked.

Can go on about tactics but this is largely a Jack Ross squad that have seen Jack Ross, Shaun Maloney and potentially Lee Johnson out the door.

Don't think many of these players could be more demotivated anyway - should be aspiring to be like Josh Doig and get a good, likely life-changing move away from Hibs. Most just plod along which suggests motivation and intrinsic drive at Hibs is severely lacking, regardless of who the manager is.

[Ozyhibby]

Unless for once in my lifetime the chairman and the board are siding with the manager and realising that the 'deadwood' players are routinely getting managers sacked.

Can go on about tactics but this is largely a Jack Ross squad that have seen Jack Ross, Shaun Maloney and potentially Lee Johnson out the door.

Don't think many of these players could be more demotivated anyway - should be aspiring to be like Josh Doig and get a good, likely life-changing move away from Hibs. Most just plod along which suggests motivation and intrinsic drive at Hibs is severely lacking, regardless of who the manager is.

Only two players from yesterday’s starting line up were signed by Ross.


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