Don’t sack Lee

[bingo70]

Did he miss his chance it simply didn’t have time to get players he wanted so had to approve deals that were put to him to fill certain positions? I think it was the latter personally which is why he needs to grasp January regardless of how difficult a month it can be.

I’m not against the idea of him getting the January window to improve things but he needs to get some results short term too.

If it’s true we’re only signing one player though then we’re as well cutting out losses now.

[loanheadhibby]

Yes the club won’t is what I think.

Re a couple of comments above on this, if we lose tomorrow it doesn’t change anything really only to further illustrate the issues we have had with player recruitment. We know our squad is weaker than hearts, we know we have failings and we know where we need to address, a loss tomorrow wouldn’t come as a huge shock to most of us fans. So can we really expect things to magically change overnight, the issues we are stuck with today will be there tomorrow and it takes time to address unfortunately. I do think the manor of any defeat may tell us something, regardless who we put out the management have within their gift to motivate and organise them. Issue for me is when you look at the goals we have conceded most you could attribute to individual error which is hard to legislate for.

I have said before and will say it again I don’t think we are as bad as some make us out to be and for me LJ should be given more time certainly the Jan window. Issue for me is id have expected us to know what we need and who we want and to bring them in early. Nature of football is could a manager survive the whole January not getting a win until the issues are addressed, probably not so club need to move quickly regardless of how difficult this window can be and getting players moved out. Look at Celtic for example they are the team that probably least need new players and have signed 3 before the window even opened that’s organised planning and good business.

Back to tomorrow, what I would say is I wouldnt write Hibs off, worst teams than the current team have gone there and won so we defo have a chance. It’s the hope that kills you 😀

I think if we lose tomorrow, it changes a lot. If I’m Ron, I’d be asking LJ why he can’t get a tune out of our 29 man squad. Whatever we may think of individual players, we should be minimum, hard to beat and well organised.

We’re not playing Barca or Madrid, it’s Hearts at Tynie. Whilst it’s one of our toughest game, it should be one of Hearts toughest home games.

If we meekly surrender like last time after going a goal up , I think time is up. I think LJ will lose fans pretty quickly.

As I said elsewhere, it’s time for the players to step up and help manager our.

One word of caution, I was at Tynie on 1st January 1998 and we were 2 down after 20 mins. Somehow we got a 2 2 draw that bought Jim Duffy a few more weeks. The rest is history.

[B.H.F.C]

Did he miss his chance it simply didn’t have time to get players he wanted so had to approve deals that were put to him to fill certain positions? I think it was the latter personally which is why he needs to grasp January regardless of how difficult a month it can be.

Seen this said a few times but he was appointed in the middle of May. He had the whole summer. Now it would be fair to say he needed more than the summer to get the squad in to the absolute shape he wanted but he has to take his share of the responsibility for what went on in the summer.

[GreenCastle]

Not ideal team selection info is being leaked before the game.

Regarding transfers - I’m fed up hearing it’s manager X player or manager X player.

Bottom line is a manager knows exactly what he’s getting himself in for being he has the job interview- whether he watches us in person or video, he should also be able to try improve the players he has.

Every manager in world football wants new players.

If we only bring in 1 player we deserve to finish bottom 6 with serious lack of understanding how to build a squad.

JDH / Porto could easily go and that’s 2 more reasonably established players out for possibly 1 in.

Both centre back and midfield are areas needing improving - the spine of our team. Fish isn’t ready or actually that great. Add in Hanlon struggling for form and our midfield well that’s still a massive issue.

Tomorrow will tell us a lot about this team and management - do they have the quality or mentality to win an important game.

[H18 SFR]

I really hope we win tomorrow and give LJ the transfer windows needed to build a team that can implement his desired style of play and tactical approach.

[Ozyhibby]

Did he miss his chance or simply didn’t have time to get players he wanted so had to approve deals that were put to him to fill certain positions? I think it was the latter personally which is why he needs to grasp January regardless of how difficult a month it can be.

Didn’t have time? He was appointed in May?
Anyway, the reasons behind the failure in august won’t matter. It’s Johnson who will be blamed no matter what.


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[04Sauzee]

I’m not against the idea of him getting the January window to improve things but he needs to get some results short term too.

If it’s true we’re only signing one player though then we’re as well cutting out losses now.

Just can't believe we will only offload 2 and sign 1 player in the next 30 days? Find it bizarre our manager would have this discussion with a supporter for it to end up on a fans forum. If it is somehow true I'll be hugely disappointed.

[Donegal Hibby]

Johnson is a dead man walking already imo. A positive result tomorrow will only delay the inevitable. He doesn’t have the players to sustain any improvement. He missed his chance to improve the squad in August and he won’t be able to get players in quick enough in January to turn it around before things get so bad the club act.


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I think the Hibs board will stick with him till the summer. January is a notorious bad transfer window to get players in , never mind get ones a club want to get rid of on long term contracts , barring relegation trouble which I think we won't be anywhere near that's only one of only 2 reason I can see why the Hibs board would want replace him , the other being a couple of bad derby results and the fans reacting to this though I think both games will be tight and are to close to call imo.

[bingo70]

I think if we lose tomorrow, it changes a lot. If I’m Ron, I’d be asking LJ why he can’t get a tune out of our 29 man squad. Whatever we may think of individual players, we should be minimum, hard to beat and well organised.

We’re not playing Barca or Madrid, it’s Hearts at Tynie. Whilst it’s one of our toughest game, it should be one of Hearts toughest home games.

If we meekly surrender like last time after going a goal up , I think time is up. I think LJ will lose fans pretty quickly.

As I said elsewhere, it’s time for the players to step up and help manager our.

One word of caution, I was at Tynie on 1st January 1998 and we were 2 down after 20 mins. Somehow we got a 2 2 draw that bought Jim Duffy a few more weeks. The rest is history.

Worth remembering RG was interviewed in Graham Spiers podcast at the start of the season and he made it clear that although he wanted to give LJ time, short term results are important and he wouldn’t just get time for the sake of getting time.

[bingo70]

https://twitter.com/grahamspiers/status/1592612135758020609?s=46&t=k3yeriqCc-QYVom4j9f_-Q

As mentioned in my previous post, this was the thoughts of RG on Johnson a while back.

“At the end of the day, it’s a performance business and he needs to deliver”

Although that was tweeted in November, I think the interview was earlier in the year than that.

[loanheadhibby]

https://twitter.com/grahamspiers/status/1592612135758020609?s=46&t=k3yeriqCc-QYVom4j9f_-Q

As mentioned in my previous post, this was the thoughts of RG on Johnson a while back.

“At the end of the day, it’s a performance business and he needs to deliver”

Although that was tweeted in November, I think the interview was earlier in the year than that.

I agree, LJ is under massive pressure. We’re 2 wins in 10. We seem soft. Ron has already shown he shows little mercy.

Let’s be honest, the vast majority of this squad will be here for rest of season. Maybe 2 or 3 changes at most.

[JamesHFC]

The Italian club isn't really a secret though is it, it was reported by the scotsman this morning

Idk, I didn't read the Scotsmen this morning.

[One Day Soon]

From what I gather is that recruitment is a huge issue at the moment.

Shankland is apparently way out of our budget.

McGeady is the only real Johnson signing

2 out and 1 in expected this month.

That would be a frankly laughable response from the club to the many gaping holes we have in our first team and squad. Our best first team is nowhere near good enough and our squad has nowhere near serious competition for first team places despite being bloated (with mainly pedestrian signings or worse).

[paddy1875]

If Lee Johnson told me the sky was blue, I’d still check for myself.

He’s not going to heap all the dud signing on himself even if he did sign them.


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[JamesHFC]

About 16 hours before a Derby and our manager is at a bar in town

[JammyDoidger]

Apparently Johnson is out up George street tonight going by the photos on twitter.

[SteveHFC]

https://twitter.com/simpsonsspfl/status/1609676894416273414?s=46&t=nCHCw4YifJGzHD7N5tMVqw

:faf:

[Bridge hibs]

About 16 hours before a Derby and our manager is at a bar in townMaybe he is meeting his new signing

[B.H.F.C]

Apparently Johnson is out up George street tonight going by the photos on twitter.

There is one photo (that I’ve seen) on Twitter and the boy that has posted it is a Jambo.

[GreenGray]

What is he thinking? I know he’s not playing etc. and tbh it doesn’t really matter, but what on earth was he thinking when he decided to go out?


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[JamesHFC]

Maybe he is meeting his new signing

Sean Goss? 🙃

[flash]

Apparently Johnson is out up George street tonight going by the photos on twitter.

Fine by me. Doubt he is in the starting line up.

[JamesHFC]

There is one photo (that I’ve seen) on Twitter and the boy that has posted it is a Jambo.

He is.

[Mikey_1875]

If he’s not drinking I don’t really have a problem with it personally. Rightly or wrongly if the result is negative tomorrow it will be thrown back in his face though.

[MWHIBBIES]

What is he thinking? I know he’s not playing etc. and tbh it doesn’t really matter, but what on earth was he thinking when he decided to go out?


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I feel like a drink probably. As is his right.

[SMAXXA]

About 16 hours before a Derby and our manager is at a bar in town

Is he playing like 🤣, thank god I’ve not been out on a school night before, maybe he’s no drinking maybe he’s with family who knows unless he’s falling about pished I don’t really care what he does in his own time.

[Bridge hibs]

Sean Goss? 🙃Are Bros back together ?

[Ozyhibby]

If he’s not drinking I don’t really have a problem with it personally. Rightly or wrongly if the result is negative tomorrow it will be thrown back in his face though.

If the result is negative tomorrow there is nothing will save him from the level of criticism heading his way.


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[flash]

If the result is negative tomorrow there is nothing will save him from the level of criticism heading his way.


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We know. You told us already.

[21sMay]

Absolutely no issue with Johnson enjoying a new year drink regardless of the result tomorrow..I have no doubt he's done everything in his power to make sure we win tomoz, wether we do or not is a whole different problem

[SMAXXA]

Absolutely no issue with Johnson enjoying a new year drink regardless of the result tomorrow..I have no doubt he's done everything in his power to make sure we win tomoz, wether we do or not is a whole different problem

Sense well said

[JamesHFC]

Is he playing like 🤣, thank god I’ve not been out on a school night before, maybe he’s no drinking maybe he’s with family who knows unless he’s falling about pished I don’t really care what he does in his own time.

I don't think anything wrong with it but Lennon would be with the team in a hotel IIRC.

[SMAXXA]

I don't think anything wrong with it but Lennon would be with the team in a hotel IIRC.

Are the team at a hotel?

[Ozyhibby]

We know. You told us already.

Where?


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[GreenGray]

I feel like a drink probably. As is his right.

Of course, but night before this game? I’m not so sure


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[21sMay]

I don't think anything wrong with it but Lennon would be with the team in a hotel IIRC.

Why would the team be at a hotel for a game in our own city?

[CMac1988]

Not ideal team selection info is being leaked before the game...

Not that I disagree but short of Boyle I doubt any team in the league gives a flying **** how we set up. Nisbet will be up front on his own. Deal with him and you don't really have to worry about the rest. Focus on the left (our right) and pump the ball in the box. We're one of the easiest teams going to play against.

Id expect more than 1 in. Only 1 player isn't enough to turn around this side playing the way that LJ wants. He'll be gone soon if that's the case. McGeady and Magennis may be capable of breaking down at any moment given their recent injuries and recovery and if 1 is all we're getting then you can chalk this season up as another write off if they can't keep fit.

I want to like Lee and 'think' I know what he's trying to do but he needs to concede that this team isn't capable at the minute (and may never be on our budget) and he needs to make us more difficult to beat until otherwise.

[Brightside]

Why are people such counts

[JamesHFC]

Are the team at a hotel?

No idea. All I know is that Mykola & McKirdy aren't starting tomorrow.

[21sMay]

No idea. All I know is that Mykola & McKirdy aren't starting tomorrow.

I'm delighted mckirdy isn't starting to be honest , not the game for him even though I think he will come good

[Donegal Hibby]

Don't have a problem with our manager being out and don't know why anyone would have a issue with it anyhow , probably started by some sad jambo that has nothing better to do anyhow!

[CL0762]

Hmm. I get the ‘it’s in his own time’ and surely there’s only so much he can do for prep. But being out the night before the biggest game of the season, I’m no sure about that.

[21sMay]

So it looks like a jambo started this 'johnson in the boozer' story .

Surprise surprise, they act awfy confident yet start daft rumours like this to try throw the fans into a frenzy . There's not much between the sides and I really hope we come.out tomorrow and pumo them silly.

[JamesHFC]

FWIW LJ left the bar as soon as he was recognised.

[21sMay]

Hmm. I get the ‘it’s in his own time’ and surely there’s only so much he can do for prep. But being out the night before the biggest game of the season, I’m no sure about that.

I get what your saying but if he feels he done everything in his power and no matter the result he accepts the blame then he's done his job

[Broken Gnome]

I'm delighted mckirdy isn't starting to be honest , not the game for him even though I think he will come good

I had him down as the latest entrant in the long and illustrious list of Hibbys that were going to make themselves heroes at the best possible time. Fair enough, the list is pretty sparsely populated once things have gone to pot, but still, bit disappointed.

You could make an argument that Lee Johnson could be bored out his skull sitting in the house or wracked with nerves, and getting out and meeting fans actually helps him. Folk will argue the opposite, but ultimately it's not a big deal. Doubt he's going to cost us the game with a ill-timed sub that was delayed as he was throwing up in the dugout.

[flash]

Where?


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Every single time you post.
Maybe not those exact words but a variation on the theme.

[Brightside]

The guy should be in his room watching Pep videos. Hang em 😂

[21sMay]

I had him down as the latest entrant in the long and illustrious list of Hibbys that were going to make themselves heroes at the best possible time. Fair enough, the list is pretty sparsely populated once things have gone to pot, but still, bit disappointed.

You could make an argument that Lee Johnson could be bored out his skull sitting in the house or wracked with nerves, and getting out and meeting fans actually helps him. Folk will argue the opposite, but ultimately it's not a big deal. Doubt he's going to cost us the game with a ill-timed sub that was delayed as he was throwing up in the dugout.

Yep . Agreed

[madhatter]

Nothing directly to do with the pub photo but I think this game could decide his future. Lose badly and I think he's finished. Win and we've got a more friendly run of fixtures to gain some momentum.

Manager isn't the sole problem. Problem for Lee is he needs to convince the fans and Ron that he's the man to build a successful team. The fact he has begun to drop all of the summer signings suggests his approach to using our budget is as disappointing as the Gordon's and the recruitment team.

Turn up Hibs, just for a change.

[MWHIBBIES]

Of course, but night before this game? I’m not so sure


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Why not? He is not working, he is perfectly entitled to go for a drink. He's not a idiot, he'll not be rat arsed, texting his ex, pishing in the neighbors garden.

[HH81]

Why not? He is not working, he is perfectly entitled to go for a drink. He's not a idiot, he'll not be rat arsed, texting his ex, pishing in the neighbors garden.

He might be.

[Unseen work]

Is there anything to confirm Johnson was in the bar other than a Hearts fans tweet?

[cameronw-hfc]

Is there anything to confirm Johnson was in the bar other than a Hearts fans tweet?

Few other social posts seem to indicate he was out for his dinner and it's a well-done troll job. Grab a pic, tweet it making it seem like he's out on the pish and then tweet to wund up Hibs fans day before the Derby. Think we've just taken the bait here

[Stuart93]

Is there anything to confirm Johnson was in the bar other than a Hearts fans tweet?

I’ve seen a video of him sitting in the pub and it doesn’t look like he’s out for a family meal

[Unseen work]

Few other social posts seem to indicate he was out for his dinner and it's a well-done troll job. Grab a pic, tweet it making it seem like he's out on the pish and then tweet to wund up Hibs fans day before the Derby. Think we've just taken the bait here

Which would make alot more sense.

The most concerning part for me is he dresses better for a football game than a ‘night out’ 🤣

[GonzoReturns]

No problem going out but sometimes discretion. We get beat tomorrow he will get roasted, silly man. Win tomorrow go out tomorrow and get rat arsed and you’re a hero.

[Mcbizz1998]

I know he isn’t playing but it’s his job, and its the most important day of his job this season.

I don’t work in football so I don’t have to be physically fit for my job but if I had an extremely important day at my work, I don’t imagine my employer would be too pleased if I went out on the lash the night before.

Of course LJ is entitled to do what he likes outside of work but if this I true it’s a really bad look.

[B.H.F.C]

I personally couldn’t care but probably no the most sensible thing to do the night before a derby. There’ll be plenty twats out pished tonight looking to wind him up for starters. And there are also plenty folk who will take issue with it, especially if things don’t go well tomorrow.

[cameronw-hfc]

I know he isn’t playing but it’s his job, and its the most important day of his job this season.

I don’t work in football so I don’t have to be physically fit for my job but if I had an extremely important day at my work, I don’t imagine my employer would be too pleased if I went out on the lash the night before.

Of course LJ is entitled to do what he likes outside of work but if this I true it’s a really bad look.


On one hand, it's new year's day, if he wants a pint or two with his pals, who are we to say that's wrong? And the more likely scenario, if he's out for dinner and its a troll job, he's still done nothing wrong.

It's a non-story. The guys entitled to a pint here and there

[madhatter]

No problem going out but sometimes discretion. We get beat tomorrow he will get roasted, silly man. Win tomorrow go out tomorrow and get rat arsed and you’re a hero.

If we win then he's set things up. Club won't do it but they should get Lee Johnson sitting toasting the camera.

We need to win first though.

Doesn't send a great message to the players. He's pretty much said some of them are garbage and then they see him out at a pub before a Derby. Don't have confidence in our squad reacting in the right way.

[GonzoReturns]

If we win then he's set things up. Club won't do it but they should get Lee Johnson sitting toasting the camera.

We need to win first though.

Doesn't send a great message to the players. He's pretty much said some of them are garbage and then they see him out at a pub before a Derby. Don't have confidence in our squad reacting in the right way.

Exactly he could be on water but really not a good look. Just think it’s pretty stupid.

[Mcbizz1998]

On one hand, it's new year's day, if he wants a pint or two with his pals, who are we to say that's wrong? And the more likely scenario, if he's out for dinner and its a troll job, he's still done nothing wrong.

It's a non-story. The guys entitled to a pint here and there

Hmm well, it shows a real lack of judgement. It’s the Edinburgh derby, and one where he really needs a win! He hasn’t done anything wrong and of course he is entitled to do what he wants but it’s a poor decision imo.

[JammyDoidger]

You can't do your job properly when you're rough, it's unprofessional if true, even if he's not drinking, not the right environment to be in before the biggest game of your Hibs career, sure many of the players would have wanted a drink at new year. Better win tomorrow.

[marinello59]

Why would the team be at a hotel for a game in our own city?

They used to stay in the Marriott the night before a Derby. I have no idea if that is still happening though. .

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

You can't do your job properly when you're rough, it's unprofessional if true, even if he's not drinking, not the right environment to be in before the biggest game of your Hibs career, sure many of the players would have wanted a drink at new year. Better win tomorrow.

Wouldn’t think he’ll be “rough”, if he’s drinking at all. Two pints, pizza supper and up the road. He’ll have his plans in place for tomorrow and the players will know what they need to do, 24 hrs ago I was dreading this game but the closer we get I think we might surprise a few people.


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[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Supposedly LJ’s assistant is out with him tonight saying that “you’ll do us tomorrow” to hertz fans ffs, if there’s a bit of truth to that he should be shown the door first thing tomorrow morning


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[Unseen work]

You can't do your job properly when you're rough, it's unprofessional if true, even if he's not drinking, not the right environment to be in before the biggest game of your Hibs career, sure many of the players would have wanted a drink at new year. Better win tomorrow.

Or he could wake up with a real clear mind because he had a nice meal with friends/family the night before instead of stressing and overthinking things

There is also the flip side that some players/managers get steaming in their house but since it’s behind closed doors no one knows.

Is it a good look? No, not really.

Will it have any bearing on the game tomorrow? I’d be stunned if it did

[Unseen work]

Supposedly LJ’s assistant is out with him tonight saying that “you’ll do us tomorrow” to hertz fans ffs, if there’s a bit of truth to that he should be shown the door first thing tomorrow morning


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Jesus Christ of course that’s not true

[green day]

Some people might need to read this Jambo guys other tweets before jumping to conclusions.

His last one says Lee demanded they stay to finish a tray of tequila slammers before leaving.

It's obviously bollocks.

[marinello59]

Supposedly LJ’s assistant is out with him tonight saying that “you’ll do us tomorrow” to hertz fans ffs, if there’s a bit of truth to that he should be shown the door first thing tomorrow morning


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I’ll go out on a limb here and say that is completely made up nonsense. :greengrin

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Jesus Christ of course that’s not true

You’d like to think so, wouldn’t actually surprise me though


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[CropleyWasGod]

Some people might need to read this Jambo guys other tweets before jumping to conclusions.

His last one says Lee demanded they stay to finish a tray of tequila slammers before leaving.

It's obviously bollocks.

If he's paid for them, he's entitled to drink them ffs :cb

[HendoDelivered]

Supposedly LJ’s assistant is out with him tonight saying that “you’ll do us tomorrow” to hertz fans ffs, if there’s a bit of truth to that he should be shown the door first thing tomorrow morning


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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[SHODAN]

Manager out drinking the night before a derby sums up our approach to these games tbh.

[Sir David Gray]

Supposedly LJ’s assistant is out with him tonight saying that “you’ll do us tomorrow” to hertz fans ffs, if there’s a bit of truth to that he should be shown the door first thing tomorrow morning


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Surely no-one believes that is true!?

[Unseen work]

Supposedly he’s out for a meal with his family as his kids are up from England.

No alcohol being consumed by LJ.

[madhatter]

Manager out drinking the night before a derby sums up our approach to these games tbh.

Especially when you compare it to what the 0-7 bunch did. Smash them and too excited to go out so went away home.

I've got no big problem with it but when you put what he's said about the players recently, his less enthusiastic attitude and his general temperament...almost looks like he's trying to stir something up.

[MelbourneHibees]

Supposedly he’s out for a meal with his family as his kids are up from England.

No alcohol being consumed by LJ.
That's what I've heard too. But tbh, even if he had a few pints, it will make 0 impact on the result tomorrow.

[Unseen work]

Especially when you compare it to what the 0-7 bunch did. Smash them and too excited to go out so went away home.

I've got no big problem with it but when you put what he's said about the players recently, his less enthusiastic attitude and his general temperament...almost looks like he's trying to stir something up.

He’s not said anything bad about the players? He said some will be moving on. Is he wrong?

What about his attitude isn’t enthusiastic and what is wrong with his general temperament?

[SMAXXA]

He’s not said anything bad about the players? He said some will be moving on. Is he wrong?

What about his attitude isn’t enthusiastic and what is wrong with his general temperament?

Exactly what I was thinking

[1875godsgift]

Surely no-one believes that is true!?


I don't think they'll do us tomorrow :thumbsup:

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Especially when you compare it to what the 0-7 bunch did. Smash them and too excited to go out so went away home.

I've got no big problem with it but when you put what he's said about the players recently, his less enthusiastic attitude and his general temperament...almost looks like he's trying to stir something up.

He seems quite enthusiastic to me and he’s not said anything untoward about players as far as I can remember?


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[B.H.F.C]

Manager out drinking the night before a derby sums up our approach to these games tbh.

He did have Block 7 down at the training ground today having a wee sing song, fireworks going off and all that. Wee bit different and some will no doubt think it’s stupid or whatever, but it does suggest he’s trying to get the point across that it’s not just another game and we need to approach it differently.

[CL0762]

That's what I've heard too. But tbh, even if he had a few pints, it will make 0 impact on the result tomorrow.

I think it’s more the optics & how it could look, especially if we get beaten tomorrow.

[MelbourneHibees]

I think it’s more the optics & how it could look, especially if we get beaten tomorrow.

Ah my apologies, I never realised it was spirits he was drinking.

[green day]

He did have Block 7 down at the training ground today having a wee sing song, fireworks going off and all that. Wee bit different and some will no doubt think it’s stupid or whatever, but it does suggest he’s trying to get the point across that it’s not just another game and we need to approach it differently.
Disgraceful behaviour. He should be in bed for 23 hours before KO, at least.

The day before a derby too, what about "the optics".

[madhatter]

He’s not said anything bad about the players? He said some will be moving on. Is he wrong?

What about his attitude isn’t enthusiastic and what is wrong with his general temperament?

He's essentially said they aren't good enough and then, rightly or wrongly, has been caught out the night before the derby. Normally that would be fine but there is no evidence of a strong mentality in the playing squad at Hibs. Hasn't been for a few years. Think many will think what's our manager doing and that's after him saying we're rubbish...

His demeanour has definitely become more negative. Only really started berating the players from the touchline the past few games and his positivity in interviews seems to be more muted, almost appears fake.

Not got a problem with this but with our playing squad unable to turn up most weeks and with them having the heart of a mouse, I see this going rather sour tbh. Players will likely be seeing the picture and the video and be thinking what's the gaffer doing?

Hope I'm wrong but I have zero faith in many of these players to remain focused and turn up when needed. This won't help towards that.

[CL0762]

Ah my apologies, I never realised it was spirits he was drinking.

Bah dum tss!

[Hibs90]

I’m not a cfan of LJ but he’s allowed to go out for a meal with his family or pals for crying out loud.

Jambos out trolling and folk have taken the bait. Chill.

[Unseen work]

He's essentially said they aren't good enough and then, rightly or wrongly, has been caught out the night before the derby. Normally that would be fine but there is no evidence of a strong mentality in the playing squad at Hibs. Hasn't been for a few years. Think many will think what's our manager doing and that's after him saying we're rubbish...

His demeanour has definitely become more negative. Only really started berating the players from the touchline the past few games and his positivity in interviews seems to be more muted, almost appears fake.

Not got a problem with this but with our playing squad unable to turn up most weeks and with them having the heart of a mouse, I see this going rather sour tbh. Players will likely be seeing the picture and the video and be thinking what's the gaffer doing?

Hope I'm wrong but I have zero faith in many of these players to remain focused and turn up when needed. This won't help towards that.

See stuff like this makes me think he can’t win, football as a whole now is just so scrutinised.

He’s said some players will move on as they won’t break into the first team etc, something fans have said along with booing them off and worse. He’s not said anything publicly about individuals not being good enough and certainly not something he’s not said behind closed doors.

Going out for a meal with his family is now big deal especially when he’s not drinking, is the timing and location clever? I’d suggest not and probably should have went elsewhere but I don’t think it’s a huge deal.

You’re saying about him shouting at players and not being as positive, I’d imagine if he wasn’t doing that people would say he doesn’t look interested at the side of the pitch and is deluded them for overly praising them when we’re on a terrible run. I think his level of praise is pretty well balanced and trying not to throw them under a bus whilst trying to keep confidence in them.

The players might be confused, angry or whatever but we don’t know what has been said. Maybe he said to them for Hogmanay/the first feel free to go out for a meal with family as long as you’re sensible. The players might know what his plans were?

So many of buts and maybes and over analysis when you’re on a bad run (which is natural).

I think we’re winning tomorrow, it’s the Hibs thing to do after this and the last month 😅

[madhatter]

See stuff like this makes me think he can’t win, football as a whole now is just so scrutinised.

He’s said some players will move on as they won’t break into the first team etc, something fans have said along with booing them off and worse. He’s not said anything publicly about individuals not being good enough and certainly not something he’s not said behind closed doors.

Going out for a meal with his family is now big deal especially when he’s not drinking, is the timing and location clever? I’d suggest not and probably should have went elsewhere but I don’t think it’s a huge deal.

You’re saying about him shouting at players and not being as positive, I’d imagine if he wasn’t doing that people would say he doesn’t look interested at the side of the pitch and is deluded them for overly praising them when we’re on a terrible run. I think his level of praise is pretty well balanced and trying not to throw them under a bus whilst trying to keep confidence in them.

The players might be confused, angry or whatever but we don’t know what has been said. Maybe he said to them for Hogmanay/the first feel free to go out for a meal with family as long as you’re sensible. The players might know what his plans were?

So many of buts and maybes and over analysis when you’re on a bad run (which is natural).

I think we’re winning tomorrow, it’s the Hibs thing to do after this and the last month 😅

I hope we win. Won't hold my breath though. The way our defence has been playing and with our midfield being ineffective at both ends of the pitch...it gives me the fear.

You are probably right, Hibs thing would be we win this and then lose the next 3.

[Brightside]

His “optics” are very poor. Bringing in the kids with flares is just daft. Get the core in a room. Show them the 2 nil down. Show the
The heart. Show them what it actually means. This is their last game. For him and many of the squad. I know Hanlon is playing the end game but him and Stevenson are the only leaders we have. They should run that changing room tomorrow

[The Baldmans Comb]

So all the Hibs players are tucked up in their beds under strict curfew orders not to go out on the night before the biggest game of the season but this rule doesn't apply to the self important manager who feels justified to go out in public view for a meal and drinks on George Street enjoying himself with the family.

It doesn't matter if he is completely blooterred or just drinking mineral water as it again just shows his professional lack of judgment and it sends out the message that "we are all as one so let's focus and fight and sacrifice and get out of this horrendous run of form tomorrow starting with dooing these Jambos"

Well thats apart from me of course as I am way above any of you plebs.:confused:

Something that has been totally apparent from the moment he arrived in this country as looking down on Scottish football and underestimating the challenge is the one he thing he does best.

[Donegal Hibby]

Firstly it is my opinion this has been started by some sad hertz fan that's just trying to stir up trouble on the night before a derby ( sadly some are fallen for it on here ) .Secondly the last Edinburgh derby Lee Johnson stated his father Gary Johnson (Torquay United manager) and his 83 year old Nan (Janette) and other members of his family were traveling up for the game, so is it not possible that they are up again and maybe went for a meal and a few drinks ? (which he's entitled to do with his family imo). Cmon fellow Hibees let's just get behind our team and give them 100% support . GGTTH 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬

[007]

Supposedly LJ’s assistant is out with him tonight saying that “you’ll do us tomorrow” to hertz fans ffs, if there’s a bit of truth to that he should be shown the door first thing tomorrow morning


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What's your source? Let me guess, a Hearts fan? 🤔 Shocker****inrooni!

[007]

There is one photo (that I’ve seen) on Twitter and the boy that has posted it is a Jambo.

Funny how the Hearts dick that's posted it claims LJ was on the piss but didn't manage to get a photo of him him drinking. LJ is clearly sober in the photo and the dick looks like the one who's been on the piss. He can't even hold his phone steady to take the photo.

[cameronw-hfc]

What's your source? Let me guess, a Hearts fan? 🤔 Shocker****inrooni!
It's a wind-up ffs. Blatantly obvious and he's caught a lot of our fans biting.

[LustForLeith]

I’m wondering if this will be the closest we come to hitting the bar today

[KeithTheHibby]

His “optics” are very poor. Bringing in the kids with flares is just daft. Get the core in a room. Show them the 2 nil down. Show the
The heart. Show them what it actually means. This is their last game. For him and many of the squad. I know Hanlon is playing the end game but him and Stevenson are the only leaders we have. They should run that changing room tomorrow

Hanlon a leader, good one😂😂😂😂

[H18 SFR]

Surely one for today?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK-MpWp-xvM

[Carheenlea]

Definitely has a feeling of maybe being LJ’s final outing as a Hibs manager (rightly or wrongly) but could also be the springboard towards a rise in fortunes and a run of very winnable games ahead. A decent window with more autonomy over ins and outs we might just see a different LJ side and one that takes us forward.

Lose today though and the sense is that it’s all over.

I think he’s going to pull something out the bag today today. (Nothing to back that up though other than hopeless optimism)

[NC1875]

Sure Johnson stays in the west end, I’ve seen him in the area a few times. Hardly a sim to pop out for a meal 5-10 mins from your house.

Who cares 😂

[JimBHibees]

Sure Johnson stays in the west end, I’ve seen him in the area a few times. Hardly a sim to pop out for a meal 5-10 mins from your house.

Who cares 😂

Indeed

[macca70]

Few other social posts seem to indicate he was out for his dinner and it's a well-done troll job. Grab a pic, tweet it making it seem like he's out on the pish and then tweet to wund up Hibs fans day before the Derby. Think we've just taken the bait here

Not sure anyone would grudge him going out for his dinner but awful judgement to think he could go out on George St the day/night before an Edinburgh derby. Lacks professionalism too.

[JimBHibees]

I’ll go out on a limb here and say that is completely made up nonsense. :greengrin

:greengrin

[NC1875]

Not sure anyone would grudge him going out for his dinner but awful judgement to think he could go out on George St the day/night before an Edinburgh derby. Lacks professionalism too.

So you expect him and his family to go to a ****hole restaurant elsewhere just to avoid George St ? 😂

[macca70]

So you expect him and his family to go to a ****hole restaurant elsewhere just to avoid George St ? 😂

He can do what he wants night before the game, just awful judgement on his part to think 1. He wouldn’t get abuse from Jambos, most of which pished with it being New Year’s Day - which is exactly what happened. 2. Or he wouldn’t Get heat from hibs fans that feels our manager being seen out on George st night before a game hinders his preparation for 1 of his biggest games of his managerial career, especially given our recent form.

Plus, it was Elios (old maddogs) hardly a high end George st establishment, I’m sure if he was that desperate to go out for a meal, could have arranged for somewhere he could have avoided being plastered all over social media.

[bingo70]

So you expect him and his family to go to a ****hole restaurant elsewhere just to avoid George St ? 😂

Is that the two options? 😂

[The Spaceman]

Win today and Hibs.net should donate another meal for him and his family at whatever place he was in!

Some of our fans really are angry and unreasonable people. The guy is allowed to eat and I’ve no doubt he’s put his full effort into preparing us for today.

[NC1875]

Didn’t realise it was Elios. That is a ****hole 😂

[Brightside]

Hanlon a leader, good one😂😂😂😂

2 nil down at Tynie.

[Bobby's Cinema]

In a parallel universe somewhere today after skelping them 0-3, in the away end after the game...

There's only one Lee Johnson
One Lee Johnson
He went out last night
Cause Hearts are *****
Walking in a a George Street Wonderland

[Crunchie]

I’ve seen a video of him sitting in the pub and it doesn’t look like he’s out for a family meal
And you don't want him sacked :cb

[Paulie Walnuts]

So you expect him and his family to go to a ****hole restaurant elsewhere just to avoid George St ? 😂

I’d argue you’ve got that the wrong way round.

George Street is full of ****hole restaurants. All Edinburgh’s best restaurants are away from there. And I’m not sure Elios even does food :greengrin

[Crunchie]

We know. You told us already.
He's been telling us relentlessly for months now, it's pretty sad really.

[JimBHibees]

2 nil down at Tynie.

It's happening again :singing:

[JimBHibees]

In a parallel universe somewhere today after skelping them 0-3, in the away end after the game...

There's only one Lee Johnson
One Lee Johnson
He went out last night
Cause Hearts are *****
Walking in a a George Street Wonderland

Love it :greengrin

[h1bs4life]

Johnson like everyone else is entitled to go where he wants but people will no doubt question his judgement going into the centre of Edinburgh if that’s what he did night before a derby when pubs will be full of a holes trying to noise him up get photos etc.
Not saying it’s right but if he headed out west to Livingston or further west and photos taken no one would bat an eyelid.
2 derby games in January will decide his fate hopefully we win both.
It can’t always be the managers fault , if not Johnson then we need someone to come in and clear out players that have been there for years and failed almost continuously.

[bingo70]

Johnson like everyone else is entitled to go where he wants but people will no doubt question his judgement going into the centre of Edinburgh if that’s what he did night before a derby when pubs will be full of a holes trying to noise him up get photos etc.
Not saying it’s right but if he headed out west to Livingston or further west and photos taken no one would bat an eyelid.
2 derby games in January will decide his fate hopefully we win both.
It can’t always be the managers fault , if not Johnson then we need someone to come in and clear out players that have been there for years and failed almost continuously.

I don’t think anybody would wish a trip to Livingston on him but there were other more sensible options within Edinburgh, even within George Street, in fact even within that block of George Street.

[Alex Trager]

In a parallel universe somewhere today after skelping them 0-3, in the away end after the game...

There's only one Lee Johnson
One Lee Johnson
He went out last night
Cause Hearts are *****
Walking in a a George Street Wonderland

This is the winner

[McGruber]

Lee Johnson having a drink up town has no bearing in my view of whether he should be sacked or not.
Lee Johnson signing 15 players at considerable budget and moaning we have too many players and not enough of the right type does have a bearing. To sign 15 players and be playing the majority of players inherited from previous managers and Porteous in midfield has a bearing.
To be at the Jan window again looking for season saving surgery.

This game is massive for Hibs and Johnson. Not just that it is a derby but win and still in the mix and he gets lots of the support onside, lose and it is 9 defeats in 11 in this samey samey mediocre league - a string of results worse than Ross and Maloney before him and results that leave us scratching again for top 6.. or worse.

I doubt many can see this team getting a result at Tynecastle in current form, he absolutely needs one though, drinks up town or not

[paddy1875]

Drinking or not I think it’s poor judgement from him.

Yes he’s not going to be playing today but the fact his players no doubt would’ve been tucked up resting for todays game and maybe see the gaffer up the dancing getting pictures with people might rub some players up the wrong way.

Also he knows a lot of supporters wouldnt take kindly to it given our current form. Family meal or not it’s just not very bright is it?

I’m not in the know but it seems he doesn’t really care like he knows he’ll be out the door.


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[bingo70]

Drinking or not I think it’s poor judgement from him.

Yes he’s not going to be playing today but the fact his players no doubt would’ve been tucked up resting for todays game and maybe see the gaffer up the dancing getting pictures with people might rub some players up the wrong way.

Also he knows a lot of supporters wouldnt take kindly to it given our current form. Family meal or not it’s just not very bright is it?

I’m not in the know but it seems he doesn’t really care like he knows he’ll be out the door.


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They don’t do food so it was also a terrible judgement call in terms of places to go for a family meal.

[The Modfather]

They don’t do food so it was also a terrible judgement call in terms of places to go for a family meal.

Have you never had a meal of beer and scampi fries before? 😀

[bingo70]

Have you never had a meal of beer and scampi fries before? 😀

Yes but I leave the family outside when doing so, I don’t take them into the establishment.

[WhileTheChief..]

Nothing will change based on today's result so I'm fully behind him, hoping everything kicks into place.

I can start bumping my gums about everything again next week!

[CropleyWasGod]

Yes but I leave the family outside when doing so, I don’t take them into the establishment.

Jesus.

Child neglect now too. LJ and Bingo out.

😞

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Drinking or not I think it’s poor judgement from him.

Yes he’s not going to be playing today but the fact his players no doubt would’ve been tucked up resting for todays game and maybe see the gaffer up the dancing getting pictures with people might rub some players up the wrong way.

Also he knows a lot of supporters wouldnt take kindly to it given our current form. Family meal or not it’s just not very bright is it?

I’m not in the know but it seems he doesn’t really care like he knows he’ll be out the door.


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Poor judgment at best, though as an experienced manager it’s hard to accept his judgement is that bad, not giving much of a toss as he knows he’ll be off soon anyway doesn’t seem too outlandish an explanation to be fair.

[007]

Not sure anyone would grudge him going out for his dinner but awful judgement to think he could go out on George St the day/night before an Edinburgh derby. Lacks professionalism too.

It has nothing to do with professionalism.

[Donegal Hibby]

Hibs ultras at Lee Johnson's training session .
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/watch-hibs-ultras-pyros-during-25876742

[blackpoolhibs]

I think if we lose tomorrow, it changes a lot. If I’m Ron, I’d be asking LJ why he can’t get a tune out of our 29 man squad. Whatever we may think of individual players, we should be minimum, hard to beat and well organised.

We’re not playing Barca or Madrid, it’s Hearts at Tynie. Whilst it’s one of our toughest game, it should be one of Hearts toughest home games.

If we meekly surrender like last time after going a goal up , I think time is up. I think LJ will lose fans pretty quickly.

As I said elsewhere, it’s time for the players to step up and help manager our.

One word of caution, I was at Tynie on 1st January 1998 and we were 2 down after 20 mins. Somehow we got a 2 2 draw that bought Jim Duffy a few more weeks. The rest is history.

That's an easy question to answer, he does not need anyone let alone LJ to tell him his squad is useless, clueless, spineless and have little ability bar the odd player or two.

[007]

Drinking or not I think it’s poor judgement from him.

Yes he’s not going to be playing today but the fact his players no doubt would’ve been tucked up resting for todays game and maybe see the gaffer up the dancing getting pictures with people might rub some players up the wrong way.

Also he knows a lot of supporters wouldnt take kindly to it given our current form. Family meal or not it’s just not very bright is it?

I’m not in the know but it seems he doesn’t really care like he knows he’ll be out the door.


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Good post... if he really was "up the dancing" or if posing for a photo was concrete evidence of him not caring.

[h1bs4life]

Hibs ultras at Lee Johnson's training session .
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/watch-hibs-ultras-pyros-during-25876742

No problem with that try anything that may help before the derby maybe apart from taking the players for a bevvy night before.
Seen a photo and very short video allegedly of Johnson last night, nothing to show it was last night but there was a distinct lack of Christmas decorations in them.
Lee get the players up for this, get right into these Hertz ***** win the game and I will take you for a bevvy in Leith the night before the cup game end of this month

:flag:

[1875Sean]

No idea. All I know is that Mykola & McKirdy aren't starting tomorrow.

Called it

[Hibrandenburg]

He can do what he wants night before the game, just awful judgement on his part to think 1. He wouldn’t get abuse from Jambos, most of which pished with it being New Year’s Day - which is exactly what happened. 2. Or he wouldn’t Get heat from hibs fans that feels our manager being seen out on George st night before a game hinders his preparation for 1 of his biggest games of his managerial career, especially given our recent form.

Plus, it was Elios (old maddogs) hardly a high end George st establishment, I’m sure if he was that desperate to go out for a meal, could have arranged for somewhere he could have avoided being plastered all over social media.

Biggest game in his managerial career :faf:

[jeffers]

Biggest game in his managerial career :faf:

Not sure what’s funny about that. If and I say if, his job is on the line based on today’s result I’d agree it is one of the biggest games of his managerial career. Unless I’ve missed all the trophies he’s won…

[blackpoolhibs]

LJ must still be pished for selecting that team.

[Leith Green]

LJ must still be pished for selecting that team.

Absolutely bizarre decisions today

[MWHIBBIES]

He's just another body, like Fenlon, Calderwood and Butcher were. Wins some, loses more.

The problems run far deeper. Nothing but red flags since Ron came in. He does not know how to run a football club. I was worried when the ones we could actually trust to want what was best for Hibs left. Didnt think we'd decline this fast.

[Jones28]

Disappointed he got the job, indifferent to his record and couldn’t give a **** if he’s looses his job tonight or not.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Time to go. Hopeless

[thebausburst]

LJ simply has to go, results are simply awful.

[Greenwich_Hibby]

Worse than Duffy and a bigger slaver. He's shown nothing in his time at the club to deserve staying.

[Heisenberg]

There’s nothing here to show that he should be kept on. His record is awful. The issue is who picks the next guy? If it’s Ben Kensell and Ian Gordon then there’s absolutely no point.

[J-C]

That team selection today warrants a sacking if nothing else.

[Paulie Walnuts]

There’s nothing here to show that he should be kept on. His record is awful. The issue is who picks the next guy? If it’s Ben Kensell and Ian Gordon then there’s absolutely no point.

Yup.

He needs to go. Problem is the next manager will still have the same pish like Hanlon, Cadden, Newell to count on but that doesn’t mean that LJ deserves more time. This is horrendous.

[nickwhibs]

Sorry to say it as really wanted to give him time but needs to go now. If only Ron and co could go too

[Unseen work]

It’s a poor squad of players. A lot need moved on which Johnson has said.

We knew hearts were better than us coming into this, they’ve not been much better than us but find themselves 2-0 up.

Fish defending for the goal is criminal.

Youan wanting all the time in the world to shoot when 1v1 is criminal.

We need someone to oversee the clearout, players coming in and get a handle on the club.

[TheCabbage]

He is tactically clueless and out his depth.
Be lucky to avoid the playoffs with him in charge.
To stick an CH in for his first start at RB is shocking and Mckirdy off Nisbet is baffling when we haven’t played him there ?

[Basildon Hibs]

I never wanted him in the first place. Utter garbage and nowt but the 'Swiss Tony' of football managers that so many on here fell for..

😁😉

[keep the faith]

Oh no! Let's not do this again.
The issue is not LJ, and a new manager won't change that.
It's time to hear from Ron Gordon and have our signing policy explained honestly.

[HendoDelivered]

Oh no! Let's not do this again.
The issue is not LJ, and a new manager won't change that.
It's time to hear from Ron Gordon and have our signing policy explained honestly.

He just tells people what they want to hear and people are stupid enough to believe it 🤣

[Mon Dieu4]

Dead man walking

[WhileTheChief..]

He's just another body, like Fenlon, Calderwood and Butcher were. Wins some, loses more.


The annoying thing about this time, is that Maloney was so bad, we really needed someone decent to take over.

LJ was never that guy. Even when he was just a rumour, it was clear he wasn't right for us. That the club went ahead and appointed him was a total shocker of a decision.

I remember saying at the time that he would be worse than Maloney and possibly our worst manager ever. It's shaping up that way.

Whether he stays or goes now doesn't really matter. Our squad is so bad that I don't see how any manger gets results.

No idea what the answer is but I'd love us to go out and do everything we can to bring Lennon back to try and turn things around. It simply couldn't be any worse than what we've got just now.

[heretoday]

What's Lenny's number?

[McGruber]

The case for sacking Lee Johnson is now stronger than those for both Ross & Maloney's sackings.

Only something special in the next 45 mins can save his job. That however is something that looks beyond these players - and he signed 15 of them

[Vault Boy]

Title of this thread could use a refresh, OP

[Hibs90]

Ron, Ian, Ben and Lee absolutely killing the club.

Get them all to ****.

[hhibs]

The case for sacking Lee Johnson is now stronger than those for both Ross & Maloney's sackings.

Only something special in the next 45 mins can save his job. That however is something that looks beyond these players - and he signed 15 of them





Time for a "Hail Maty" bting back Lennon.

[GreenGray]

I never wanted him in the first place. Utter garbage and nowt but the 'Swiss Tony' of football managers that so many on here fell for..

[emoji16][emoji6]

Have to admit I fell for it, thought it was a poor appointment at first but more I read and heard I changed my mind.

Now look like a fool as he should probably be sacked now. However doesn’t hide the fact the recruitment has been ****ing dreadful and this squad is utter *****.

But I’m no longer combined Johnson is the man who should be trusted with a rebuild.


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[Hibernia&Alba]

Ron, Ian, Ben and Lee absolutely killing the club.

Get them all to ****.

Correct, this goes beyond just yet another change of manager. It's a mess.

[delbert]

Oh no! Let's not do this again.
The issue is not LJ, and a new manager won't change that.
It's time to hear from Ron Gordon and have our signing policy explained honestly.

The last three managerial appointments have been utterly horrific and if the manager is Tom Kite, which LJ is, then the issue IS the manager. We have a truly dreadful squad, on a par with Fenlon’s, and a manager of similar ability, yet some want us to keep this clown and hand him what little budget we have before the inevitable February/March sacking. This guy could quite easily take us down, the club is in free fall but hey, big screens !!

[Scottie]

Time for a "Hail Maty" bting back Lennon.
Even the pope couldny save this shower bud

[Jay]

If LJ goes then we need to also sack the person who has employed the last 3 managers. Binning 3 managers in 14 or so months shows their recruitment is poor or their management of the club overall is poor.It needs to go further up the chain. I still think LJ and JR are good managers, there's something wrong deeper within the club.

[Alfred E Newman]

That team selection today warrants a sacking if nothing else.

You beat me to it.

[SaulGoodman]

The two players he decided were worthy of a start today have been subbed off at half time. Can’t be a good sign.

[keep the faith]

The last three managerial appointments have been utterly horrific and if the manager is Tom Kite, which LJ is, then the issue IS the manager. We have a truly dreadful squad, on a par with Fenlon’s, and a manager of similar ability, yet some want us to keep this clown and hand him what little budget we have before the inevitable February/March sacking. This guy could quite easily take us down, the club is in free fall but hey, big screens !!

Big screens and the signings are coming from elsewhere. More management change is absolutely bonkers.

We must either start trusting our managers with signings and giving them time or we are heading for oblivion.

[GreenGray]

If LJ goes then we need to also sack the person who has employed the last 3 managers. Binning 3 managers in 14 or so months shows their recruitment is poor or their management of the club overall is poor.It needs to go further up the chain. I still think LJ and JR are good managers, there's something wrong deeper within the club.

It’s been done to death but at the start of last season, after finishing 3rd the season before, Ross said we needed a quality centre half and striker to kick on. He got two loan signings, and we haven’t recovered from that since.

Recruitment has got worse if anything. A combination of poor recruitment leading to a **** squad, injuries, losing our best players and slightly incompetent managers it’s no wonder we are in the mess we’re in.


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[mcfly]

Club is rudderless.

Where’s Kensell?

Can only see a relegation battle if money isn’t spent

[Jones28]

I don’t want the owner to go. Kensell though can **** right off.

[Alfred E Newman]

It’s been done to death but at the start of last season, after finishing 3rd the season before, Ross said we needed a quality centre half and striker to kick on. He got two loan signings, and we haven’t recovered from that since.

Recruitment has got worse if anything. A combination of poor recruitment leading to a **** squad, injuries, losing our best players and slightly incompetent managers it’s no wonder we are in the mess we’re in.


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If he does go no doubt the blame will be put onto the supporters for having unrealistic ambitions.

[WhileTheChief..]

It’s been done to death but at the start of last season, after finishing 3rd the season before, Ross said we needed a quality centre half and striker to kick on. He got two loan signings, and we haven’t recovered from that since.


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Yup.

Remember in the summer leading up to our Euro game we were eagerly waiting for a couple of decent signings as it was all we needed?!

Incredible how much worse we are now compared to then.

[Keith_M]

We need a total clear out from top to bottom.

[truehibernian]

We need a total clear out from top to bottom.

Owner first 👍

[number9dream]

I don’t want the owner to go. Kensell though can **** right off.

Not sure the owner going anywhere is an option but both he and Kensell have interviewed Maloney & Johnson and swallowed the Pep PowerPoint presentation…
Kensell & Gordon Jnr have to move on. Get in a credible DoF and sort out the squad over the summer. Hopefully, we’ll still be in the top league by then.
The manager is a slaver and has to go by the end of the season.

[chrisski33]

[QUOTE=number9dream;7212130]Not sure the owner going anywhere is an option but both he and Kensell have interviewed Maloney & Johnson and swallowed the Pep PowerPoint presentation…
Kensell & Gordon Jnr have to move on. Get in a credible DoF and sort out the squad over the summer. Hopefully, we’ll still be in the top league by then.
The manager is a slaver and has to go by the end of the season.[/QUOTE

Totally agree esp with the manager being a slaver

[Scorrie]

2 wins in 11? Nah LJ should be getting his jotters tonight. The next 2 games could decide our season. I see absolutely no indication that Johnson will get us anything out those 2 games. Totally clueless

[Vault Boy]

Lee Gonesoon

[Paulie Walnuts]

Sack him tonight.

[cameronw-hfc]

I've been LJ in, but today is unforgivable. I'm a "happy clapper" but I'm sick of this now. Hopefully sacked tonight.

[dphibs]

Get rid now ffs!!

[loanheadhibby]

Sack him tonight. No way back from that performance

[Hibernia&Alba]

It seems to be getting worse. He must be on very thin ice now.

[Mon Dieu4]

Cheerio lets hope you finally get it right

[LunasBoots]

Sack Lee

[Centre Hawf]

Bye Lee.

[Mikey_1875]

Thank for **** all you useless ****

[wilkie_1]

Sack NOW

[Carheenlea]

I wouldn’t be shocked if we see him gone this evening. In tomorrow to gather his stuff then down the road never to be seen again.

[blackpoolhibs]

It's not all doom and gloom, just replace Hanlon with Fish, and straight away we are much stronger.


Oops.:rolleyes:

[One Day Soon]

I’m sitting here cringing as to what verbal diarrhoea he’s going to come out with. I bought two season tickets again this season in spite of everything my experience was screaming at me about how we were conducting ourselves. I feel like a complete mug now. Utterly taken for a ride by the owners, the manager and the players. I don’t know if I’m more disgusted with them or with myself.

[RG04]

Has to go!!

Michael O’Neill in the stand today…..can only dream!!!

[GreenGray]

We can’t go into that cup game with him now can we? Might be our only chance of salvaging the season.


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[Paulie Walnuts]

I wouldn’t be shocked if we see him gone this evening. In tomorrow to gather his stuff then down the road never to be seen again.

It has to be done tonight.

Other than butcher he is the worst manager I can remember us having.

[Dashing Bob S]

Whatever decision we make now will be a terrible one.

[CMac1988]

Has to go!!

Michael O’Neill in the stand today…..can only dream!!!

That boats sailed... Again.

[Unseen work]

I don’t want him gone because I really don’t want another fresh start where the same players who have been underperforming for a year get another chance and the new manager doesn’t quite know what is needed.

Johnson will now surely be under no illusion what is required and who is not good enough.

That said, we sacked Ross and Maloney after poor runs.

Under Johnson we have

- Got pumped out league cup in group stages
- Won 7 games - 5 against 10 men
- Drew 2 games - 1 against 9 men
- Lost 11 games
- Lost 9 out of our previous 11 games
- 8th in the league with those around us having games in hand

It’s concerning and in normal circumstances would warrant the sack. I’d expect those players to get more points from the last 11 with no manager.

Who comes in? Who would want the job under these apparent circumstances?

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

I think he'll be given till the Derby in the cup. Lose that and he's gone. But if we lose the upcoming games before that though then he might go

[Unseen work]

If he does go it needs to be Martindale imo.

Him and Bartley would sort us out and quick.

Know the squad, who isn’t good enough and who to bring in.

Can’t see it though

[sauzeelegod]

What a mess. I was all for giving him time as these players are just so weak, but he has to go now.

[Iain G]

If he does go it needs to be Martindale imo.

Him and Bartley would sort us out and quick.

Know the squad, who isn’t good enough and who to bring in.

Can’t see it though

If it's Martindale am going nowhere near Easter Road

[A Hi-Bee]

Where is Neil Lennon, get rid of LJ for starters then work from the top down and clear out.

[Unseen work]

I think he'll be given till the Derby in the cup. Lose that and he's gone. But if we lose the upcoming games before that though then he might go

I rarely say games are must win, but United and Motherwell up next are absolutely massive and must wins.

We need to put points on the board

[Mcbizz1998]

If he does go it needs to be Martindale imo.

Him and Bartley would sort us out and quick.

Know the squad, who isn’t good enough and who to bring in.

Can’t see it though

The way I feel at the moment, this makes a lot of sense.

[tonyrougier123]

Whatever decision we make now will be a terrible one.

I agree totally,nothing good happening no decisions and hasty ones.

A sore mess!

[Unseen work]

If it's Martindale am going nowhere near Easter Road

Based on his previous I’m guessing?

[Allant1981]

I was in the keep him camp but things just aren't getting any better, if they are going to sack him it needs to be now, if not they need to let him get his own players in and back him

[Mcbizz1998]

It has to be done tonight.

Other than butcher he is the worst manager I can remember us having.

He is better than Maloney ffs

[Scorrie]

I think he'll be given till the Derby in the cup. Lose that and he's gone. But if we lose the upcoming games before that though then he might go

I’m not sure. The next 2 league games are huge and I can’t see LJ getting us anything from them. His selections and tactics are truly baffling to say the least

[GreenCastle]

Yup.

He needs to go. Problem is the next manager will still have the same pish like Hanlon, Cadden, Newell to count on but that doesn’t mean that LJ deserves more time. This is horrendous.

A new manager needs to come in and sign some replacements this January - just keep us up this season and make us harder to beat.

Right now we are a mess and only heading down.

[richard_pitts]

If he does go it needs to be Martindale imo.

Him and Bartley would sort us out and quick.

Know the squad, who isn’t good enough and who to bring in.

Can’t see it though

Martindale has a conviction for serious financial dishonesty. Not a fit and proper person.

[One Day Soon]

Why will sacking LJ make a difference?

He’s clueless. His half time subs laid that out in black and white.

[Stuart93]

Why will sacking LJ make a difference?

What do we do then? Pretend everything’s rosey and continue on as is? We’re going to end up relegated

[Allant1981]

Why will sacking LJ make a difference?

With this set of players it probably won't but he isn't getting the best out of any of them

[The Harp Awakes]

He's lived up to expectations for me. A mediocre Manager who has put together a bottom 6 squad.

Sadly his inevitable sacking won't matter a jot. The entire 1st team football department needs ripped up and started again. The trouble is the owner has not got a clue how to fix it.

What a mess.

[richard_pitts]

He’s clueless. His half time subs laid that out in black and white.

After sacking a manager who got us third place I'm not sure we'd get better. I think we're stuck with him.

[Iain G]

Based on his previous I’m guessing?

That and I genuinely don't think he is a man I want to lead Hibs to where we all want the club to be, it's a reaction to Maloney and LJ failing, wanting that SPFL experience. The modern version of appointing Bobby Williamson.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He is better than Maloney ffs

No, he’s not.

His record is worse and has been worse for a good while now.

[GreenCastle]

If he does go it needs to be Martindale imo.

Him and Bartley would sort us out and quick.

Know the squad, who isn’t good enough and who to bring in.

Can’t see it though

Would be for this and would weaken Livi.

[Mcbizz1998]

Stubbsy!!

[chrisski33]

Martindale has a conviction for serious financial dishonesty. Not a fit and proper person.

folk make mistakes and some deserve 2nd chances. football players seem to get it. didnt Newell get done for drink driving?

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

folk make mistakes and some deserve 2nd chances. football players seem to get it. didnt Newell get done for drunk driving?

Boyle


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[timewilltell]

Would be for this and would weaken Livi.

Jeez, glad its not up to you. 🙄

[Ozyhibby]

He is better than Maloney ffs

His record is worse than Maloney’s.


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[Iain G]

folk make mistakes and some deserve 2nd chances. football players seem to get it. didnt Newell get done for drink driving?

Don't think Joe was involved in major crime (off the pitch at least)

[B.H.F.C]

Time is up. Starting lineup today was a joke.

[Zemamma10]

Has to go, embarrassing the comments before the game saying mckirdy would get a red or score winner, utterly clueless.

[loanheadhibby]

Why will sacking LJ make a difference?

I take your point but do you really think LJ given time can turn things around.
It was pretty disgraceful today.

[timewilltell]

Only Ross County have lost more games this season than us. Dreadful stuff.

[truehibernian]

When you see a starting line up with Hanlon and Stevenson - other than thinking you’re in an episode of Quantum Leap - you must admit your heart sinks.

[GreenGray]

If he does go it needs to be Martindale imo.

Him and Bartley would sort us out and quick.

Know the squad, who isn’t good enough and who to bring in.

Can’t see it though

No.

Martindale wouldn’t even join us given his comments in that open goal interview.


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[Unseen work]

He’s clueless. His half time subs laid that out in black and white.

I thought his subs improved us massively. That said I’m not sure it could have got any worse and Hearts sat off.

Not sure what else he could have changed when looking at the bench

[Scottie]

Don't think Joe was involved in major crime (off the pitch at least)
Drink driving isn’t a crime or less you kill someone i suppose in you eyes ? :confused:

[Iain G]

Drink driving isn’t a crime or less you kill someone i suppose in you eyes ? :confused:

What the ****? Was pointing out Martindale was involved in Major organised crime, never made any statement about drink driving not being serious.

[Scottie]

What the ****? Was pointing out Martindale was involved in Major organised crime, never made any statement about drink driving not being serious.
I must read thread properly mate. Apologies Iain. :aok:

[Iain G]

I must read thread properly mate. Apologies Iain. :aok:

All good 👍

[richard_pitts]

folk make mistakes and some deserve 2nd chances. football players seem to get it. didnt Newell get done for drink driving?

with respect there is a major difference between stupidity and calculated dishonesty. Money Laundering is also a serious issue in football.

[Leith Green]

You simply cannot survive going on a run of defeats like Lee Johnson has. The sacking off lee johnson should be the first of many changes structurally.. All over the place as a club , decision making absolutely shocking throughout. Squad nowhere near good enough, and regressing at a similar rate to us getting relegated in 2014. Ron gordon not got a clue how to run a football club , and the folk being trusted to do it for him are equally not up to the task. We are a complete shambles from top to bottom and this is not a quick fix because its that ****ing bad.

[Unseen work]

That and I genuinely don't think he is a man I want to lead Hibs to where we all want the club to be, it's a reaction to Maloney and LJ failing, wanting that SPFL experience. The modern version of appointing Bobby Williamson.

I do get it, I think he’s done really well to turn his life around though so would be willing to give him a chance.

I think a relatively safe pair of hands where the person would know the club, expectations and is proven is what we need right now.

In saying that every appointment is a risk

[Kano Kirsty]

Lost for words. Dominated the 2nd half without doing any real damage, Johnson being out on the lash last night now looks even worse. Raging.

[SHODAN]

Sacking the manager will make no difference, just a figurehead. Pin all our hopes on the next puppet though by all means.

[easty]

Lost for words. Dominated the 2nd half without doing any real damage, Johnson being out on the lash last night now looks even worse. Raging.

Dominating counts for nowt when your opposition have already got the job done.

We did play a lot better second half, but you cannae tell me Hearts didn’t take their foot off the gas.

[One Day Soon]

I thought his subs improved us massively. That said I’m not sure it could have got any worse and Hearts sat off.

Not sure what else he could have changed when looking at the bench

My point was that his subs emphasised the fact that he picked the wrong starting line up which is as amateurish as it gets.

[Donegal Hibby]

If he does go it needs to be Martindale imo.

Him and Bartley would sort us out and quick.

Know the squad, who isn’t good enough and who to bring in.

Can’t see it though
If Martindale comes anywhere near Hibernian in any capacity that will be the last straw for me , horrible style of football and I don't think he's any better than Johnson and is also a convicted drug dealer . Nice choice btw

[GreenCastle]

Sacking the manager will make no difference, just a figurehead. Pin all our hopes on the next puppet though by all means.

Would a different manager make us any worse ?

Surely someone new would come in and make us harder to beat ?

Some of the results this season…

Losses against…

Part time Falkirk
Part time Morton
Aberdeen 4-1
Livi
St Mirren
St Johnstone
Ross County
Kilmarnock
Celtic - 6-1 and 4-0
Hearts - 3-0

[CelticEnd]

Hibs have decent players. Should be doing far better than recent results.

Neil Lennon would at least get some hunger and desire back in there and give the fans something to support.

[Stuart93]

Would a different manager make us any worse ?

Surely someone new would come in and make us harder to beat ?

Some of the results this season…

Losses against…

Part time Falkirk
Part time Morton
Aberdeen 4-1
Livi
St Mirren
St Johnstone
Ross County
Kilmarnock
Celtic - 6-1 and 4-0
Hearts - 3-0

Laughable results

Worst of it is there’s barely any highlights.

[Is It On....]

When you see a starting line up with Hanlon and Stevenson - other than thinking you’re in an episode of Quantum Leap - you must admit your heart sinks.

We have signed about 30 players since the wine salesman was appointed Head of Recruitment. The fact that Lewis and Paul are still first picks rather than back-up players is NOT their fault.

[B.H.F.C]

Sacking the manager will make no difference, just a figurehead. Pin all our hopes on the next puppet though by all means.

Bigger picture there needs to be major changes. Short term, we need someone to get more from the current lot to keep us in the league. Some of his decisions lately have been baffling.