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AugustaHibs
08-09-2022, 11:42 AM
Looks like it’s about to come to fruition.

BroxburnHibee
08-09-2022, 11:53 AM
Just heard that. Is it just a rumour

Paul1642
08-09-2022, 11:55 AM
Just heard that. Is it just a rumour

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62836057

Hibby70
08-09-2022, 11:58 AM
They wouldn't put out those messages if it wasn't highly serious. Imagine we are talking hours rather than days.

MartinfaePorty
08-09-2022, 11:58 AM
Old woman lives a long life and dies. Doesn't give a stuff for me and my family, so likewise.

danhibees1875
08-09-2022, 11:58 AM
Just heard that. Is it just a rumour

She's under doctor supervision.

My understanding was that an announcement of her death would be at a pre-determined time (9am) the day following. It ensures news readers are kitted out in black for the announcement, etc.

It would be easy enough for them to keep it a secret I would guess and so we'll not know anything with certainty until then, but with 24/7 social media that plan may have changed to something more practical.

Mon Dieu4
08-09-2022, 11:58 AM
Not a good week for the Huns is it?

GlesgaeHibby
08-09-2022, 12:00 PM
Truss and Starmer both left the commons quickly after being passed notes. Chuck at Balmoral, and William and Kate on the way.

gorgie_harp
08-09-2022, 12:00 PM
:greengrin
Not a good week for the Huns is it?

DH1875
08-09-2022, 12:08 PM
Remember that IF she does dies that there is class and then there is Hibs class. We might not agree with there being a Royal family. We might not agree with the union. We might not like being seen as being British or having a British passport. Let the old lady rest in peace is what I am saying.

Kick off all you want when Charles becomes king 👍

Pretty Boy
08-09-2022, 12:10 PM
She's under doctor supervision.

My understanding was that an announcement of her death would be at a pre-determined time (9am) the day following. It ensures news readers are kitted out in black for the announcement, etc.

It would be easy enough for them to keep it a secret I would guess and so we'll not know anything with certainty until then, but with 24/7 social media that plan may have changed to something more practical.

The predetermined time is only if she passes away at night. It used to be the case that it was so the BBC could break the news and The Times could carry the story in the 1st edition but these days that's not as much of a concern. The Buckingham Palace website will break the news at the same times as the message is posted outside the palace. If it's during working hours then the announcement will be immediate (or as immediate as it can be with formalities to be considered).

I'm not invested in the Royals at all. The whole grieving nation narrative will be unbearable. By the same token I remember my own grandmothers final days and it was hard for both her and us as a family so on a human level I take zero pleasure from the news. From my republican standpoint I expect to see a wave of royalist sentiment in the coming days and a nostalgia fueled wave of support for the monarchy. With that in mind other republicans would do well to remember the 'if you can't say anything nice' mantra. You can only harm your cause by gleefully celebrating this.

Paul1642
08-09-2022, 12:10 PM
Remember that IF she does dies that there is class and then there is Hibs class. We might not agree with there being a Royal family. We might not agree with the union. We might not like being seen as being British or having a British passport

Agree with this. Regardless of anyones opinion on the union and the royal family celebrating the death of an elderly woman is low and I hope we don’t see that on here.

She has always stuck me as a thoroughly decent person.

Bristolhibby
08-09-2022, 12:16 PM
Worth a read for protocol and processes of Operation London Bridge.

FWIW I am a firm Republican, but there will be no doubt the historic nature of the Queens death. Most of us have know no other Monarch. Charles will be the make or break of the monarchy.

https://www.politico.eu/article/queen-elizabeth-death-plan-britain-operation-london-bridge/amp/

CyberSauzee
08-09-2022, 12:28 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge

marinello59
08-09-2022, 12:29 PM
If I’d had to meet Boris and Truss on the same day I’d have rapidly lost the will to live as well.

Sir David Gray
08-09-2022, 12:32 PM
I'm no royalist and would personally scrap the monarchy as soon as the Queen passes away but I recognise what this means for many people across the UK and also internationally across the world.

Her death will be of the utmost significance and very much the end of an era.

It won't really mean anything to me but I am happy to mark it respectfully for those who do wish to pay their respects when the time finally comes.

MartinfaePorty
08-09-2022, 12:34 PM
Agree with this. Regardless of anyones opinion on the union and the royal family celebrating the death of an elderly woman is low and I hope we don’t see that on here.

She has always stuck me as a thoroughly decent person.

I won't celebrate her death, but I will point out that, far from being compliant servants of the nation, the Royal Family has been actively involved in spiking legislation for their own gain, syphoning off money from the public purse for a variety of dubious purposes and been compliant in covering up crimes (including sexual abuse).

danhibees1875
08-09-2022, 12:37 PM
The predetermined time is only if she passes away at night. It used to be the case that it was so the BBC could break the news and The Times could carry the story in the 1st edition but these days that's not as much of a concern. The Buckingham Palace website will break the news at the same times as the message is posted outside the palace. If it's during working hours then the announcement will be immediate (or as immediate as it can be with formalities to be considered).

I'm not invested in the Royals at all. The whole grieving nation narrative will be unbearable. By the same token I remember my own grandmothers final days and it was hard for both her and us as a family so on a human level I take zero pleasure from the news. From my republican standpoint I expect to see a wave of royalist sentiment in the coming days and a nostalgia fueled wave of support for the monarchy. With that in mind other republicans would do well to remember the 'if you can't say anything nice' mantra. You can only harm your cause by gleefully celebrating this.

"Night" being after work/5pm then, or actually during the night (c.midnight onwards)?

That makes more sense and seems more modern. Presumably my point about wearing black is redundant as simply having a black dress/suit sitting in a locker would allow for a quick change for the occasion, if that even is a thing.

Exciting protocols aside, there's little doubt that when she does die it will be a notable occasion in history, whether people agree it should be or not.

Paulie Walnuts
08-09-2022, 12:38 PM
So, do we reckon this is it?

I’ll take no pleasure in it but I can’t say I’ll be gutted either.
To me, it’ll just be another elderly person passing away. I’ll gratefully take the day off work that comes.

Sounds ominous with Starmer and Truss making a quick dash for the exit and the Royal Family all making their way to Balmoral.

BroxburnHibee
08-09-2022, 12:40 PM
So, do we reckon this is it?

I’ll take no pleasure in it but I can’t say I’ll be gutted either.
To me, it’ll just be another elderly person passing away. I’ll gratefully take the day off work that comes.

Sounds ominous with Starmer and Truss making a quick dash for the exit and the Royal Family all making their way to Balmoral.

Wouldn't surprise me if she's already gone

wookie70
08-09-2022, 12:42 PM
I see her as an equal and fellow Civil Servant. She didn't need to do an interview but then she can't resign as easily. I judge her on the job she has done and she has been an excellent public servant and I think she has kept republicans like me quiet as she hasn't got involved in politics and kept her role ceremonial.

That being said the British Monarchy as well as all the Titles associated with it should die with her.

The only interest I have in her death if they continue the monarchy is if I will get any annual leave. As on of Her Majesty's Civil Servants I think a week off will allow me to grieve appropriately and I have some work in the garden needs doing

wookie70
08-09-2022, 12:46 PM
Just read it is only a single day public holiday and nothing if it is an existing Public Holiday or funeral at the weekend.

Pretty Boy
08-09-2022, 12:48 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if she's already gone

There will definitely be a delay in announcing it. World leaders and the like have to be informed and then there is traditional procedure to be followed.

I think it's one of those things that there really isn't a precedent for in the modern world. Very few alive have loved through the death of a British monarch.

The only real comparison in recent times would be when Pope John Paul II died and there was surprise at how quickly his death was announced . With Paul VI it had been hours and previous Popes sometimes days. A lot of that was hangover from a time when there was antipopes and risk of impersonation and fraudulent claims to the office. Nowadays that really isn't a concern so I imagine we will know pretty soon after the event.

JimBHibees
08-09-2022, 12:51 PM
I'm no royalist and would personally scrap the monarchy as soon as the Queen passes away but I recognise what this means for many people across the UK and also internationally across the world.

Her death will be of the utmost significance and very much the end of an era.

It won't really mean anything to me but I am happy to mark it respectfully for those who do wish to pay their respects when the time finally comes.

Pretty much this.

Bristolhibby
08-09-2022, 12:53 PM
So, do we reckon this is it?

I’ll take no pleasure in it but I can’t say I’ll be gutted either.
To me, it’ll just be another elderly person passing away. I’ll gratefully take the day off work that comes.

Sounds ominous with Starmer and Truss making a quick dash for the exit and the Royal Family all making their way to Balmoral.

No day off work if she dies today. Funeral will be on Sunday 18th.

See my link in previous post for all the protocol. Funeral is D-day +10.

J

AugustaHibs
08-09-2022, 12:54 PM
Huw Edwards on bbc, black tie.

Is this curtains?

Mon Dieu4
08-09-2022, 12:54 PM
Looks like it's called Operation Unicorn if she die she up here, this is from wiki

Operation Unicorn

Operation Unicorn is a plan that outlines what would happen if the Queen dies in Scotland. Details about Operation Unicorn were first reported to the public in 2019, although mention of the codename was first made in the Scottish Parliament's online papers in 2017.[9][10]

Once the death has been made public, Holyrood Palace, St Giles' Cathedral, and the Scottish Parliament will serve as the focal point of gatherings, with a condolence book open to the public set up at the latter location. Parliamentary business will be suspended immediately for at least six parliamentary days, in order to allow authorities to prepare for the funeral.[10] The parliament will then prepare a motion of condolence within 72 hours of reconvening.[9] All Air Space around the British Isles will be closed for six days of mourning. The Queen's coffin will first lie in repose at Holyrood Palace, followed by a service of reception at St Giles' Cathedral in Edinburgh. Following this, the coffin would then be transported to Waverley Station and then taken by the Royal Train to London if possible.[10][16] Otherwise the coffin would be taken by plane to London and welcomed by the prime minister and cabinet ministers.[3]

hibsbollah
08-09-2022, 12:54 PM
Because I’m interested in politics and history I’ll be watching the pageantry of the funeral, because it tells us a lot about the trappings of power and the stories that we’re told as citizens/subjects. These events don’t happen often.

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 12:56 PM
Remember that IF she does dies that there is class and then there is Hibs class. We might not agree with there being a Royal family. We might not agree with the union. We might not like being seen as being British or having a British passport. Let the old lady rest in peace is what I am saying.

Kick off all you want when Charles becomes king ��

I agree. I'm not a monarchist, I would abolish them tomorrow, but I do have a soft spot for the old girl herself. She has been a constant in the lives of everyone in the country and she seems a genuinely nice lady. I wouldn't want a life where everything I do is planned to the second, completely devoid of any freedom or spontaneity, but she has done it for over seventy years. At 97 each day is a bonus, and it has to come to an end at some point, but it will truly be the end of an era. After she goes, we should have a referendum on the future of the monarchy. It seems ridiculous to continue it in 2022.

degenerated
08-09-2022, 12:58 PM
Nicholas Witchell has arrived at Balmoral with a fishing rod, four cans of lager and some chicken.

scoopyboy
08-09-2022, 12:59 PM
No day off work if she dies today. Funeral will be on Sunday 18th.

See my link in previous post for all the protocol. Funeral is D-day +10.

J

Do they have funerals on a Sunday?

I've only ever known the Queen ruling the country so I will find it strange to have another monarch.

I don't particularly like the Royal family but at the same time wish them no harm.

As always it's someone's family member that has passed so I take no joy in that whatsoever.

Just_Jimmy
08-09-2022, 01:00 PM
I'm no royalist and would personally scrap the monarchy as soon as the Queen passes away but I recognise what this means for many people across the UK and also internationally across the world.

Her death will be of the utmost significance and very much the end of an era.

It won't really mean anything to me but I am happy to mark it respectfully for those who do wish to pay their respects when the time finally comes.I agree. I would add however that I have respect for her lifetime of service to the country. She's always put public service at the forefront.

I'll be sad to see her go on a human level. I won't be hung up on it however.

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Pretty Boy
08-09-2022, 01:01 PM
No day off work if she dies today. Funeral will be on Sunday 18th.

See my link in previous post for all the protocol. Funeral is D-day +10.

J

Would the funeral be a Sunday? Very rare for that to be permitted in Catholicism and Anglicanism.

I would assume there would be protocol to move it forward or push it back a day.

danhibees1875
08-09-2022, 01:05 PM
Looks like it's called Operation Unicorn if she die she up here, this is from wiki



I think if she dies in Scotland (something I believe she wishes to do) then the 2 run concurrently; Unicorn and London bridge.

I wonder if the football this weekend will be cancelled. A quick Google throws up articles suggesting it's possible.

Scouse Hibee
08-09-2022, 01:05 PM
She's under doctor supervision.

My understanding was that an announcement of her death would be at a pre-determined time (9am) the day following. It ensures news readers are kitted out in black for the announcement, etc.

It would be easy enough for them to keep it a secret I would guess and so we'll not know anything with certainty until then, but with 24/7 social media that plan may have changed to something more practical.

BBC presenters in black now

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 01:07 PM
Nicholas Witchell has arrived at Balmoral with a fishing rod, four cans of lager and some chicken.

If Van Bronckhurst arrives at Balmoral, we'll know it's very serious.

Moulin Yarns
08-09-2022, 01:08 PM
Has meghan been spotted at LAX boarding a plane to Aberdeen?

danhibees1875
08-09-2022, 01:10 PM
BBC presenters in black now

I would assume if they'd went to the bother of changing then it would be to make the announcement right away, presumably the presenter was just always in black? :dunno:

degenerated
08-09-2022, 01:11 PM
I would assume if they'd went to the bother of changing then it would be to make the announcement right away, presumably the presenter was just always in black? :dunno:Black suits and black ties, not a usual look for them.

nonshinyfinish
08-09-2022, 01:13 PM
Looks like it's called Operation Unicorn if she die she up here, this is from wiki

Operation Unicorn

Operation Unicorn is a plan that outlines what would happen if the Queen dies in Scotland. Details about Operation Unicorn were first reported to the public in 2019, although mention of the codename was first made in the Scottish Parliament's online papers in 2017.[9][10]

Once the death has been made public, Holyrood Palace, St Giles' Cathedral, and the Scottish Parliament will serve as the focal point of gatherings, with a condolence book open to the public set up at the latter location. Parliamentary business will be suspended immediately for at least six parliamentary days, in order to allow authorities to prepare for the funeral.[10] The parliament will then prepare a motion of condolence within 72 hours of reconvening.[9] All Air Space around the British Isles will be closed for six days of mourning. The Queen's coffin will first lie in repose at Holyrood Palace, followed by a service of reception at St Giles' Cathedral in Edinburgh. Following this, the coffin would then be transported to Waverley Station and then taken by the Royal Train to London if possible.[10][16] Otherwise the coffin would be taken by plane to London and welcomed by the prime minister and cabinet ministers.[3]

That bit in bold… I think the Wiki page might have quite a few active editors just now.

Hibby70
08-09-2022, 01:13 PM
I think if she dies in Scotland (something I believe she wishes to do) then the 2 run concurrently; Unicorn and London bridge.

I wonder if the football this weekend will be cancelled. A quick Google throws up articles suggesting it's possible.


The Union Bears have planned a tifo in this event. It will look more like Moe the bartender than the Queen mind you

GlesgaeHibby
08-09-2022, 01:14 PM
I would assume if they'd went to the bother of changing then it would be to make the announcement right away, presumably the presenter was just always in black? :dunno:

Huw Edwards rolled out and Nicholas witchell fighting back tears.

Smartie
08-09-2022, 01:15 PM
The predetermined time is only if she passes away at night. It used to be the case that it was so the BBC could break the news and The Times could carry the story in the 1st edition but these days that's not as much of a concern. The Buckingham Palace website will break the news at the same times as the message is posted outside the palace. If it's during working hours then the announcement will be immediate (or as immediate as it can be with formalities to be considered).

I'm not invested in the Royals at all. The whole grieving nation narrative will be unbearable. By the same token I remember my own grandmothers final days and it was hard for both her and us as a family so on a human level I take zero pleasure from the news. From my republican standpoint I expect to see a wave of royalist sentiment in the coming days and a nostalgia fueled wave of support for the monarchy. With that in mind other republicans would do well to remember the 'if you can't say anything nice' mantra. You can only harm your cause by gleefully celebrating this.

Couldn't agree more with every single word and the sentiments behind this.

DH1875
08-09-2022, 01:17 PM
Has meghan been spotted at LAX boarding a plane to Aberdeen?

They are on their way. Think their already in the UK though.

DaveF
08-09-2022, 01:19 PM
File under 'meh'

Mon Dieu4
08-09-2022, 01:19 PM
That bit in bold… I think the Wiki page might have quite a few active editors just now.

Yep thought that seemed really weird

Scouse Hibee
08-09-2022, 01:20 PM
I would assume if they'd went to the bother of changing then it would be to make the announcement right away, presumably the presenter was just always in black? :dunno:

No they have definitely all changed to black.

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 01:23 PM
No they have definitely all changed to black.

The girl hasn't even gone yet. I hope she's watching the telly in bed, shouting "the cheeky bassas."

Sylar
08-09-2022, 01:37 PM
BBC 1 have suspended all regular programming til 6pm.

Sounds like she's gone.

Northernhibee
08-09-2022, 01:41 PM
I’m no monarchist or unionist but a family member received an MBE a few years back after thirty years serving his country. I knew what it meant for him and many other people from working class backgrounds to receive his honour at Buckingham Palace.

I think it’s ultimately best to be respectful.

GRA
08-09-2022, 01:46 PM
Mind the OTT press coverage when Prince Phillip passed last year? I have a feeling we ain't seen nothing yet. Let's pay our respects but let's also realise there is much more to life than stopping everything for weeks on end for few privileged individuals.

grunt
08-09-2022, 01:47 PM
I think it’s ultimately best to be respectful.:agree:

Moulin Yarns
08-09-2022, 01:47 PM
A helicopter has just flown over pitlochry from the direction of deeside! Air ambulance anyone?

stokesmessiah
08-09-2022, 01:49 PM
A helicopter has just flown over pitlochry from the direction of deeside! Air ambulance anyone?

I doubt they would be moving her…

Moulin Yarns
08-09-2022, 01:56 PM
I doubt they would be moving her…

Aye, but they kept telling us that she had mobility problems 😉

hibsbollah
08-09-2022, 01:58 PM
Aye, but they kept telling us that she had mobility problems ��

I think a helicopter could do the job.

Hibby70
08-09-2022, 02:00 PM
They've removed a roadsign from just within the gates. To make the photos of the announcement pinned to the gate look better

Stairway 2 7
08-09-2022, 02:01 PM
Is she the most famous living person. I read an Indian article that reckoned bar religious leaders, she was probably the most famous person that has ever lived

AugustaHibs
08-09-2022, 02:03 PM
They've removed a roadsign from just within the gates. To make the photos of the announcement pinned to the gate look better

The no entry sign? I seen it earlier and you’re right, it’s gone, however I can’t remember seeing anyone taking it down? Was that what the van parked just within the gate was doing?

silverhibee
08-09-2022, 02:03 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if she's already gone

Think there is a good chance she has and it will be announced at 6 o’clock tonight.

Hibby70
08-09-2022, 02:04 PM
The no entry sign? I seen it earlier and you’re right, it’s gone, however I can’t remember seeing anyone taking it down? Was that what the van parked just within the gate was doing?

A guy arrived with a ladder from a van and dropped the sign out of view

Brummie_Hibs
08-09-2022, 02:05 PM
Think there is a good chance she has and it will be announced at 6 o’clock tonight.

I'm told (inside info from NHS) that she has died.

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 02:05 PM
Her death will represent a huge break in history. The Queen must have met almost every person of historical significance of the past century during her long life: politicians, entertainers, artists, sportspeople, businesspeople, you name it. I would guess she must have met more people than any other person in human history.

Pretty Boy
08-09-2022, 02:09 PM
Ultimately it's a matter of historical significance, unless something extraordinary happens no one on here will ever see another Queen as head of state.

There will be political ramifications as well. Not in the basic sense of how the country is governed but rather a shift in the political landscape. I wouldn't be surprised to see the country become even more polarised with a rush of nationalist and royalist sentiment on one side and people weary of the rolling coverage and suspension of normal life becoming ever more entrenched in their republicanism on the other.

It's going to be an interesting few weeks that's for sure.

Kato
08-09-2022, 02:10 PM
Huw Edwards rolled out and Nicholas witchell fighting back tears.News filtering through that a second plane has hit her majesty.

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He's here!
08-09-2022, 02:12 PM
Is she the most famous living person. I read an Indian article that reckoned bar religious leaders, she was probably the most famous person that has ever lived

Yes by a distance.

Used to be Elvis but the Queen's longevity has made her pretty much untouchable in the global fame stakes.

Sad day for the nation. Passing away at her beloved Balmoral is fitting though.

silverhibee
08-09-2022, 02:13 PM
The no entry sign? I seen it earlier and you’re right, it’s gone, however I can’t remember seeing anyone taking it down? Was that what the van parked just within the gate was doing?

It seemed to just slide down on its own, there was no one visible as it was removed.

He's here!
08-09-2022, 02:15 PM
They are on their way. Think their already in the UK though.

Why the *eck would Meghan go? Caused the Queen nothing but grief.

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 02:16 PM
Yes by a distance.

Used to be Elvis but the Queen's longevity has made her pretty much untouchable in the global fame stakes.

Sad day for the nation. Passing away at her beloved Balmoral is fitting though.

I'm guessing Elvis is one massive name she never met? But she chatted with Churchill, JFK, Nelson Mandela, Nixon, Marilyn Monroe, The Beatles, Sinatra etc etc. Would she have met Ghandi as a youngster? There can be very few significant people of recent history she didn't meet.

Hibby70
08-09-2022, 02:18 PM
It seemed to just slide down on its own, there was no one visible as it was removed.

I watched the guy take it down. He had a pony tail and abguy with a brolly watched him.

I can't believe I'm reporting this 🤣

Pretty Boy
08-09-2022, 02:18 PM
Why the *eck would Meghan go? Caused the Queen nothing but grief.

To support her husband.

I don't talk to my mother in law and have no time for her whatsoever. Whenever the time comes I'll be on hand to support my wife and our children though.

Jay
08-09-2022, 02:18 PM
I feel really sad. She's been a constant in most of our lives, whatever you think about the monarchy and royals she was dedicated and worked up until 2 days ago. I'm certainly not going into mourning for her but it's very sad

weecounty hibby
08-09-2022, 02:19 PM
Expect an announcement soon. Can’t say how I know but I totally trust the person who has told me.

Also remember. If you can’t say something nice it’s maybe best just to say nothing at all

Kato
08-09-2022, 02:19 PM
To support her husband.

I don't talk to my mother in law and have no time for her whatsoever. Whenever the time comes I'll be on hand to support my wife and our children though.Not culture-warry enough.

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Alex Trager
08-09-2022, 02:21 PM
Not culture-warry enough.

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Too true.

What a place this is

MartinfaePorty
08-09-2022, 02:29 PM
Expect an announcement soon. Can’t say how I know but I totally trust the person who has told me.

Also remember. If you can’t say something nice it’s maybe best just to say nothing at all

I'm sorry, but that's a phrase I've always hated. Respect has to be earned, so, yes, respect her as a human being and for any good that she has done. However, if the BBC (and other media outlets) are pushing the line that 'everybody' loved her and she was somehow a faultless human being, then that needs to be challenged, albeit in a sensitive way.

Mantis Toboggan
08-09-2022, 02:29 PM
Too true.

What a place this is

But the Daily Mail told him she's a bad woman. Must be true.

He's here!
08-09-2022, 02:31 PM
To support her husband.

I don't talk to my mother in law and have no time for her whatsoever. Whenever the time comes I'll be on hand to support my wife and our children though.

Kate's not travelled with William.

hibsbollah
08-09-2022, 02:31 PM
Why the *eck would Meghan go? Caused the Queen nothing but grief.

Yes, that's the spirit.

weecounty hibby
08-09-2022, 02:33 PM
I'm sorry, but that's a phrase I've always hated. Respect has to be earned, so, yes, respect her as a human being and for any good that she has done. However, if the BBC (and other media outlets) are pushing the line that 'everybody' loved her and she was somehow a faultless human being, then that needs to be challenged, albeit in a sensitive way.
Of course they will push it. They will have her elevated to saint level but as I say just choose to ignore it. I will as I know it’s total bull**** foisted upon us by a class based system that is 200 years out of date and driven by a belief that there is still an empire.

James310
08-09-2022, 02:37 PM
I feel really sad. She's been a constant in most of our lives, whatever you think about the monarchy and royals she was dedicated and worked up until 2 days ago. I'm certainly not going into mourning for her but it's very sad

Yes, well said.

silverhibee
08-09-2022, 02:37 PM
Chap on bbc saying it’s possible she may have had a massive stroke.

superfurryhibby
08-09-2022, 02:38 PM
Liz Truss seems deeply confused as to the Queen's location (I say this ironically, but...),

"The whole country will be deeply concerned by the news from Buckingham Palace this lunchtime.

My thoughts - and the thoughts of people across our United Kingdom - are with Her Majesty The Queen and her family at this time"

It's almost like the Prime Minister of "our" United Kingdom can't bring herself to say the news from Balmoral or the news from the Royal family or whatever.

I'm a republican through and through, but recognise the momentous end of an era that he imminent death brings with it.

weecounty hibby
08-09-2022, 02:39 PM
I'm sorry, but that's a phrase I've always hated. Respect has to be earned, so, yes, respect her as a human being and for any good that she has done. However, if the BBC (and other media outlets) are pushing the line that 'everybody' loved her and she was somehow a faultless human being, then that needs to be challenged, albeit in a sensitive way.
Of course they will push it. They will have her elevated to saint level but as I say just choose to ignore it. I will as I know it’s total bull**** foisted upon us by a class based system that is 200 years out of date and driven by a belief that there is still an empire.

Sylar
08-09-2022, 02:39 PM
Liz Truss seems deeply confused as to the Queen's location (I say this ironically, but...),

"The whole country will be deeply concerned by the news from Buckingham Palace this lunchtime.

My thoughts - and the thoughts of people across our United Kingdom - are with Her Majesty The Queen and her family at this time"

It's almost like the Prime Minister of "our" United Kingdom can't bring herself to say the news from Balmoral or the news from the Royal family or whatever.

I'm a republican through and through, but recognise the momentous end of an era that he imminent death brings with it.

The news was released from Buckingham Palace though? All Royal news is released from there.

I'm_cabbaged
08-09-2022, 02:40 PM
My wife has been kept back at work with the council, that have plans in place for her death. Think that that’s it.

He's here!
08-09-2022, 02:41 PM
Liz Truss seems deeply confused as to the Queen's location (I say this ironically, but...),

"The whole country will be deeply concerned by the news from Buckingham Palace this lunchtime.

My thoughts - and the thoughts of people across our United Kingdom - are with Her Majesty The Queen and her family at this time"

It's almost like the Prime Minister of "our" United Kingdom can't bring herself to say the news from Balmoral or the news from the Royal family or whatever.

I'm a republican through and through, but recognise the momentous end of an era that he imminent death brings with it.

It's just standard protocol. It's 'Buckingham Palace' which issues all royal press releases/official statements.

Sylar
08-09-2022, 02:41 PM
Just had an email from a learned society I work closely with. All online and in-person events next week have been cancelled 'out of respect' of HRH.

Bristolhibby
08-09-2022, 02:42 PM
Would the funeral be a Sunday? Very rare for that to be permitted in Catholicism and Anglicanism.

I would assume there would be protocol to move it forward or push it back a day.

Good point. Being an atheist I have no idea.

J

Sioux
08-09-2022, 02:43 PM
RAF flight from Northolt arriving at Aberdeen. Same aircraft as was used on Tuesday.

Moulin Yarns
08-09-2022, 02:44 PM
Ultimately it's a matter of historical significance, unless something extraordinary happens no one on here will ever see another Queen as head of state.


Unless Charles comes out of the closet. :wink:

Oscar T Grouch
08-09-2022, 02:44 PM
So if she's popped off, will the game be cancelled? Probably will be won't it?

Sorry to bring football into this but it is the only part of this that will bother me.

HibsGW
08-09-2022, 02:44 PM
RAF flight from Northolt arriving at Aberdeen. Same aircraft as was used on Tuesday.

What happened on Tuesday?

Billy Whizz
08-09-2022, 02:45 PM
What happened on Tuesday?

Boris was booted out, and Truss was appt PM

Moulin Yarns
08-09-2022, 02:47 PM
It seemed to just slide down on its own, there was no one visible as it was removed.

Haven't you been watching The Capture? :wink:

Paulie Walnuts
08-09-2022, 02:47 PM
So if she's popped off, will the game be cancelled? Probably will be won't it?

Sorry to bring football into this but it is the only part of this that will bother me.

I’d suspect so. Pish.

Moulin Yarns
08-09-2022, 02:48 PM
I watched the guy take it down. He had a pony tail and abguy with a brolly watched him.

I can't believe I'm reporting this 🤣

Are you Nicholas Witchell's understudy? :greengrin

Hibee87
08-09-2022, 02:49 PM
So if she's popped off, will the game be cancelled? Probably will be won't it?

Sorry to bring football into this but it is the only part of this that will bother me.

I'm seeing Kevin bridges in a few hours, also wondering if it's announced she has died before the show starts if it will be cancelled.

Oscar T Grouch
08-09-2022, 02:51 PM
I’d suspect so. Pish.

Balls!! Hope she holds on til Sunday :offski:

speedy_gonzales
08-09-2022, 02:54 PM
My wife has been kept back at work with the council, that have plans in place for her death. Think that that’s it.

Edinburgh council, if so, Project Lyon?

Billy Whizz
08-09-2022, 02:54 PM
Is it not Operating Unicorn if it happens in Scotland

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/national/operation-unicorn-what-is-operation-unicorn-what-happens-if-the-queen-dies-in-scotland-3836443

danhibees1875
08-09-2022, 02:59 PM
So if she's popped off, will the game be cancelled? Probably will be won't it?

Sorry to bring football into this but it is the only part of this that will bother me.

Even if not out of respect/mourning I suspect there would be a chance that with the policing requirement of moving her body from Balmoral to St Giles and then to London over the coming days that policing football games might be put on the back-burner.

hibby rae
08-09-2022, 03:02 PM
Is it not Operating Unicorn if it happens in Scotland

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/national/operation-unicorn-what-is-operation-unicorn-what-happens-if-the-queen-dies-in-scotland-3836443

"However, plans have been in place for a long time if the worst should tragically happen and the Monarch dies."

If and should? I think it's a certainty it will at some point. She's not Connor McLeod 😂😂

hibby rae
08-09-2022, 03:04 PM
Others may have said the same, but a suspension of parliament when the population is facing the **** they are is a disgrace.

Pretty Boy
08-09-2022, 03:05 PM
No sombre tunes on the radio yet.

Actually a few bangers on Radio 1 and Forth 1 on my drive home.

Hibby70
08-09-2022, 03:05 PM
Are you Nicholas Witchell's understudy? :greengrin

To be fair I've given a better update than the reporter at Windsor whose update was that there are a couple of tourists

Paulie Walnuts
08-09-2022, 03:05 PM
Will we get a new national anthem?

superfurryhibby
08-09-2022, 03:07 PM
Even if not out of respect/mourning I suspect there would be a chance that with the policing requirement of moving her body from Balmoral to St Giles and then to London over the coming days that policing football games might be put on the back-burner.

Why would her body go to St Giles?

I suppose we will need to brace ourselves for a full on period of contrived "national mourning", and a never ending royal grief fest.

lapsedhibee
08-09-2022, 03:07 PM
Will we get a new national anthem?

It'll have to be changed, won't it, unless Meghan takes the role?

Oscar T Grouch
08-09-2022, 03:09 PM
Will we get a new national anthem?

A special one for Charles I think :greengrin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K__P-ye5h1Q

AltheHibby
08-09-2022, 03:09 PM
Seeing that her family are rushing to be with her reminds me of my desperate drive from Perth to Stafford to try to see my dad one last time.

I was 15 minutes too late and will always regret it.

Whatever we may think of royalty, she is a mother and grandmother and her family deserves time to grieve.

Otherwise, in my opinion, we risk being like the hate filled Westboro Baptist Church who celebrate American soldiers dying and picket their funerals.

Since90+2
08-09-2022, 03:14 PM
Why would her body go to St Giles?

I suppose we will need to brace ourselves for a full on period of contrived "national mourning", and a never ending royal grief fest.

Her body would be moved to St Giles in the event of her passing.

gbhibby
08-09-2022, 03:15 PM
Heard a few hours ago from guys in the army that she has died.

Paulie Walnuts
08-09-2022, 03:17 PM
If anyone has ‘been told’ more than there is in the news, you’ve been lied to.

hibsbollah
08-09-2022, 03:18 PM
No sombre tunes on the radio yet.

Actually a few bangers on Radio 1 and Forth 1 on my drive home.

The Sex Pistols wasnt a particularly apt choice I thought.

Mon Dieu4
08-09-2022, 03:18 PM
If anyone has ‘been told’ more than there is in the news, you’ve been lied to.

Dunno about that, sure it was the Rock that announced to the world Bin Laden was deid

Since90+2
08-09-2022, 03:19 PM
If anyone has ‘been told’ more than there is in the news, you’ve been lied to.

I wouldn't be so sure.

There will be significant disruption to the centre of Edinburgh over the next wee while.

Stairway 2 7
08-09-2022, 03:22 PM
They are lucky it isn't the week of the bin strikes, with St giles and the Royal mile going to be all over the world

grunt
08-09-2022, 03:22 PM
There will be significant disruption to the centre of Edinburgh over the next wee while.
Can I ask why?

Stairway 2 7
08-09-2022, 03:22 PM
Can I ask why?

She will lie in state at holyrood and service and book of remembrance at St giles

G15 Hibs
08-09-2022, 03:24 PM
I wouldn't be so sure.

There will be significant disruption to the centre of Edinburgh over the next wee while.

What's new?

SaulGoodman
08-09-2022, 03:24 PM
Dunno about that, sure it was the Rock that announced to the world Bin Laden was deid

It was John Cena

grunt
08-09-2022, 03:24 PM
She will lie in state at holyrood and service and book of remembrance at St giles
Didn't know that. Not at Westminster Abbey then?

The_Exile
08-09-2022, 03:27 PM
I’m a dyed in the wool republican but my god, what a service she has given to her country. The very definition of the word loyalty. I’d scrap the whole monarchy after she passes but there’s no getting away to what an incredible servant she has been.

They are talking about her as if she’s gone already though so assuming they’re holding off breaking it until the 6pm news?

Since90+2
08-09-2022, 03:28 PM
Very fortunate that Prince Harry was in the UK at this time.

Stairway 2 7
08-09-2022, 03:28 PM
Didn't know that. Not at Westminster Abbey then?

Not sure where actual funeral will be, but she will supposedly be lying in state her for people to see here, hotel room will be like gold dust. Freshers week next week too, no sure if that will be effected. Busy week for edin

Sergio sledge
08-09-2022, 03:28 PM
I’m a dyed in the wool republican but my god, what a service she has given to her country. The very definition of the word loyalty. I’d scrap the whole monarchy after she passes but there’s no getting away to what an incredible servant she has been.

They are talking about her as if she’s gone already though so assuming they’re holding off breaking it until the 6pm news?

I'm sure if it has happened they would hold off the announcement until after all the family have been able to get to Balmoral.

superfurryhibby
08-09-2022, 03:30 PM
Well, at least we will all get a public holiday or two out of it.

Paulie Walnuts
08-09-2022, 03:31 PM
Well, at least we will all get a public holiday or two out of it.
Potentially not if she dies today. Funeral meant to be 10 days from death which would be a Sunday.

Logie Green
08-09-2022, 03:33 PM
I'm guessing Elvis is one massive name she never met? But she chatted with Churchill, JFK, Nelson Mandela, Nixon, Marilyn Monroe, The Beatles, Sinatra etc etc. Would she have met Ghandi as a youngster? There can be very few significant people of recent history she didn't meet.

Sir David Gray?

Steven79
08-09-2022, 03:35 PM
Sir David Gray?She would be supporting the other side surely?

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superfurryhibby
08-09-2022, 03:35 PM
Potentially not if she dies today. Funeral meant to be 10 days from death which would be a Sunday.

Yer joking.....I'm all for a day of national mourning, during the week.

hibsbollah
08-09-2022, 03:36 PM
She would be supporting the other side surely?

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Can anyone pop over to FolloFollow and see how they're all holding up?

hibby rae
08-09-2022, 03:37 PM
I’m a dyed in the wool republican but my god, what a service she has given to her country. The very definition of the word loyalty. I’d scrap the whole monarchy after she passes but there’s no getting away to what an incredible servant she has been.

They are talking about her as if she’s gone already though so assuming they’re holding off breaking it until the 6pm news?

Sher probably didn't fancy giving up the inherited wealth and kooshy lifestyle that came with that 'service'

Logie Green
08-09-2022, 03:38 PM
She would be supporting the other side surely?

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Probably. Suspect the Huns will be more upset when she’s no longer here than she was when they ceased to be.

hibby rae
08-09-2022, 03:39 PM
She will lie in state at holyrood and service and book of remembrance at St giles

Via the funeral home just off Bruntsfield Links

Mon Dieu4
08-09-2022, 03:41 PM
It was John Cena

https://allthatsinteresting.com/the-rock-bin-laden-death-tweet

Moulin Yarns
08-09-2022, 03:43 PM
Via the funeral home just off Bruntsfield Links

:not worth:not worth:not worth

I'm a #skelfaholic

StevesFamau5
08-09-2022, 03:46 PM
Could be nothing, but my colleagues husband works for BBC Scotland in the techy truck thing you see when BBC are doing live stuff etc, he's been told to stand down for tomorrows game on BBC Scotland. Early indication is game cancelled as well.

neil7908
08-09-2022, 03:48 PM
I feel really sad. She's been a constant in most of our lives, whatever you think about the monarchy and royals she was dedicated and worked up until 2 days ago. I'm certainly not going into mourning for her but it's very sad

Your of course entitled to feel that way but at 96 she's has quite the innings and seen and done more than any of us will ever get close to.

Passing after a life like that should not be a cause for sadness. And I say that as someone who wants the monarchy gone ASAP.

oconnors_strip
08-09-2022, 03:48 PM
Didn't know that. Not at Westminster Abbey then?

Her body will go to Holyrood palace from Balmoral then moved to St Giles, after a couple of days her body gets transported to London on the Royal train.

lapsedhibee
08-09-2022, 03:49 PM
If anyone has ‘been told’ more than there is in the news, you’ve been lied to.

Right, because the news isn't managed at all. Especially the BBC News. It was most evident, for example, when Donald Dewar had died that discussing his health on the BBC Wireless was being managed to avoid pre-empting the official announcement.

Aldo
08-09-2022, 03:50 PM
Is it not Operating Unicorn if it happens in Scotland

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/national/operation-unicorn-what-is-operation-unicorn-what-happens-if-the-queen-dies-in-scotland-3836443

Yes it is!


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Steven79
08-09-2022, 03:54 PM
Can anyone pop over to FolloFollow and see how they're all holding up?Not been a good week for fans of the tribute act.

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lapsedhibee
08-09-2022, 03:54 PM
I’m a dyed in the wool republican but my god, what a service she has given to her country. The very definition of the word loyalty. I’d scrap the whole monarchy after she passes but there’s no getting away to what an incredible servant she has been.

They are talking about her as if she’s gone already though so assuming they’re holding off breaking it until the 6pm news?

Assuming you didn't just misspell royalty, who or what is it that she's been loyal to? Not the country, surely, as it's not as if she had a choice of which country to be queen of and picked ours year after year.

danhibees1875
08-09-2022, 03:55 PM
Potentially not if she dies today. Funeral meant to be 10 days from death which would be a Sunday.

I think it would then get knocked back to D+11 in that instance.

grunt
08-09-2022, 04:02 PM
Assuming you didn't just misspell royalty, who or what is it that she's been loyal to? Not the country, surely, as it's not as if she had a choice of which country to be queen of and picked ours year after year.
Do you have to have chosen something in order to be loyal to it? Does that mean that we can't be loyal to our family, for example?

Northernhibee
08-09-2022, 04:02 PM
It was John Cena

It doesn't matter who announced Bin Laden's death to the world...

Prof. Shaggy
08-09-2022, 04:08 PM
I’m a dyed in the wool republican but my god, what a service she has given to her country. The very definition of the word loyalty. I’d scrap the whole monarchy after she passes but there’s no getting away to what an incredible servant she has been.

They are talking about her as if she’s gone already though so assuming they’re holding off breaking it until the 6pm news?

Hey, do servants not clean up, do the hoovering and make the tea?
Come to think of it, I wonder what I'll have for my tea...

SaulGoodman
08-09-2022, 04:11 PM
It doesn't matter who announced Bin Laden's death to the world...

😂😂

lapsedhibee
08-09-2022, 04:26 PM
Do you have to have chosen something in order to be loyal to it? Does that mean that we can't be loyal to our family, for example?

I don't really know what that means, being loyal to your family. Does it just mean you don't let them down? Is the queen loyal to the country by not having abdicated, is that it? :dunno:

Since90+2
08-09-2022, 04:28 PM
I don't really know what that means, being loyal to your family. Does it just mean you don't let them down? Is the queen loyal to the country by not having abdicated, is that it? :dunno:

I suppose using your own words, she hasn't let the country down?

lapsedhibee
08-09-2022, 04:35 PM
I suppose using your own words, she hasn't let the country down?

Didn't she recently fund her favourite son so that he could escape justice? Think that was more loyalty to her criminal son than to the country.

degenerated
08-09-2022, 04:46 PM
Didn't she recently fund her favourite son so that he could escape justice? Think that was more loyalty to her criminal son than to the country.She funded?

marinello59
08-09-2022, 04:56 PM
I’m a dyed in the wool republican but my god, what a service she has given to her country. The very definition of the word loyalty. I’d scrap the whole monarchy after she passes but there’s no getting away to what an incredible servant she has been.



Agreed.

LunasBoots
08-09-2022, 05:05 PM
Heard a few hours ago from guys in the army that she has died.

Heard this aswell, news is just being held back until all statements and plans, family can see her etc are put in place

Brummie_Hibs
08-09-2022, 05:09 PM
BBC slowly changing the tone - without actually ever mentioning the big D word. But getting very close to it.

Prepping us for official announcement soon.

Fuzzywuzzy
08-09-2022, 05:10 PM
You have to wonder what faculties were like when meeting truss and jonhston

Kato
08-09-2022, 05:12 PM
You have to wonder what faculties were like when meeting truss and jonhstonSharper than theirs.

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gbhibby
08-09-2022, 05:13 PM
I’m a dyed in the wool republican but my god, what a service she has given to her country. The very definition of the word loyalty. I’d scrap the whole monarchy after she passes but there’s no getting away to what an incredible servant she has been.

They are talking about her as if she’s gone already though so assuming they’re holding off breaking it until the 6pm news?
Agree about her, but do people have the stomach for Charles as monarch.

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 05:13 PM
Heard this aswell, news is just being held back until all statements and plans, family can see her etc are put in place

I might be naive here, but how would anyone in the army or NHS know? There are tried and trusted policies in place to what happens when a monarch dies. In today's technological world it's very difficult to keep anything secret, but the news would only be disseminated on a 'need to know' basis e.g. the prime minister, Archbishop of Canterbury etc, and they would be under strictest order to tell nobody. A very small group are informed then an announcement is made? :dunno:

LewysGot2
08-09-2022, 05:14 PM
Looks like it’s about to come to fruition.

If she dies in Scotland it’s Operation Unicorn I believe :confused:

Stairway 2 7
08-09-2022, 05:15 PM
I might be naive here, but how would anyone in the army or NHS know? There are tried and trusted policies in place to what happens when a monarch dies. In today's technological world it's very difficult to keep anything secret, but the news would only be disseminated on a 'need to know' basis e.g. the prime minister, Archbishop of Canterbury etc, and they would be under strictest order to tell nobody. A very small group are informed then an announcement is made? :dunno:

Surely it would be a private medical team, who's careers wouldn't be worth anything if they texted a pal

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 05:15 PM
If she dies in Scotland it’s Operation Unicorn I believe :confused:

I think that's Brexit.

LewysGot2
08-09-2022, 05:18 PM
Well, at least we will all get a public holiday or two out of it.

It will be the September weekend so possibly not in reality

Just_Jimmy
08-09-2022, 05:19 PM
This endless speculation from bbc and itv seems somewhat crass given there's no official announcement of the Queens passing.

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Pretty Boy
08-09-2022, 05:20 PM
Let's be honest it's a tiny group of people who will be permitted access now. There will be a lot of precautionary measures taken among Police and local logistics that will lead to speculation but in actuality people claiming to be ITK are stabbing in the dark or putting 2 and 2 together and getting 10.

It's obvious she is close to death. Someone will be close to the mark when they say it will be announced at 9pm or 8am but soldiers of all ranks and NHS doctors don't have any more of a clue than anyone else.

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 05:21 PM
This endless speculation from bbc and itv seems somewhat crass given there's no official announcement of the Queens passing.

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Aye, they have to fill the air time on rolling news, which means plenty of speculation.

Just_Jimmy
08-09-2022, 05:23 PM
Aye, they have to fill the air time on rolling news, which means plenty of speculation.What is the plan if there's no announcement? Does this speculation go on for days? Weeks? Months?

As I say, somewhat crass.

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Pretty Boy
08-09-2022, 05:26 PM
What is the plan if there's no announcement? Does this speculation go on for days? Weeks? Months?

As I say, somewhat crass.

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It's mildly amusing hearing presenters and correspondents declare 'we shouldn't speculate about the Queen's health' whilst they have engaged in 6 hours of coverage doing exactly that.

ronaldo7
08-09-2022, 05:26 PM
What is the plan if there's no announcement? Does this speculation go on for days? Weeks? Months?

As I say, somewhat crass.

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It's absolutely horrible. I expected an announcement shortly after the BBC cancelled their the schedules for the afternoon and Huw Edwards donned his black suit and tie.

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 05:26 PM
What is the plan if there's no announcement? Does this speculation go on for days? Weeks? Months?

As I say, somewhat crass.

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Given the announcement earlier and the arrival of all her family, they will have to give some kind of update soon. They won't just leave it up in the air for days now.

Keith_M
08-09-2022, 05:26 PM
This endless speculation from bbc and itv seems somewhat crass given there's no official announcement of the Queens passing.

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Yeah, it's a bit weird all these people talking for ages but actually saying nothing.

Pretty Boy
08-09-2022, 05:30 PM
Undesignated flight originating in Germany currently on final approach to Dyce.

Assuming that will be Harry. We might get an announcement when he's on the scene.

Chorley Hibee
08-09-2022, 05:31 PM
Couldn't believe my ears when I heard Clive Myrie say this on BBC News earlier:

"The energy bills price crisis is of course insignificant now given the gravity of the situation we seem to be experiencing with Her Majesty”

Pretty Boy
08-09-2022, 05:32 PM
Confirmed. Died this afternoon.

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 05:32 PM
Officially announced. She's gone. Sad news.

Logie Green
08-09-2022, 05:33 PM
Undesignated flight originating in Germany currently on final approach to Dyce.

Assuming that will be Harry. We might get an announcement when he's on the scene.

Wonder if he’ll have his Nazi clobber on?

LunasBoots
08-09-2022, 05:37 PM
Just announced, died this afternoon, RIP.

LunasBoots
08-09-2022, 05:37 PM
Couldn't believe my ears when I heard Clive Myrie say this on BBC News earlier:

"The energy bills price crisis is of course insignificant now given the gravity of the situation we seem to be experiencing with Her Majesty”

People dying this winter don't really matter to rich people

The Modfather
08-09-2022, 05:38 PM
Well, at least we will all get a public holiday or two out of it.

I hope not or at least given the option to work. Would be a day I’m not able to bill for through no fault of my own.

Sylar
08-09-2022, 05:39 PM
Very sad news. An incredible servant and figure of public life. Irreplaceable.

hibsbollah
08-09-2022, 05:42 PM
Irreplaceable.

I disagree, you seem to have misunderstood the hereditary succession principle:greengrin

One Day Soon
08-09-2022, 05:42 PM
Very sad news. An incredible servant and figure of public life. Irreplaceable.

Yes I agree. Feels literally unreal right now.

Paulie Walnuts
08-09-2022, 05:42 PM
I disagree, you seem to have misunderstood the hereditary succession principle:greengrin

:greengrin

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 05:42 PM
Like many, I'm not a monarchist at all, but I liked her - she was always there, like a reassuring auld granny. She always seemed a nice old girl, and seventy years as head of state is remarkable. On a human level it's sad.

Stairway 2 7
08-09-2022, 05:45 PM
Like many, I'm not a monarchist at all, but I liked her - she was always there, like a reassuring auld granny. She always seemed a nice old girl, and seventy years as head of state is remarkable. On a human level it's sad.

She was the ace in the pro monarchy card. Charlie won't be a fraction of that

Pretty Boy
08-09-2022, 05:51 PM
I genuinely feel a bit melancholy. I didn't expect to, I'm not really mourning the individual. It just feels like the end of an era, someone who has always been there now isn't. A reminder I'm getting old.

SRHibs
08-09-2022, 05:51 PM
I didn't expect to be as sad as I am about this. She was like a constant, comfort blanket.

May she rest in peace!

EH6 Hibby
08-09-2022, 05:51 PM
Does anyone know if shops will be open as normal tomorrow?

Northernhibee
08-09-2022, 05:52 PM
Very, very surreal.

James310
08-09-2022, 05:52 PM
Edinburgh to shortly become the media center of the world, until she is moved to London.

heretoday
08-09-2022, 05:53 PM
Like many, I'm not a monarchist at all, but I liked her - she was always there, like a reassuring auld granny. She always seemed a nice old girl, and seventy years as head of state is remarkable. On a human level it's sad.

She's been there since before I was born. Long time!

Northernhibee
08-09-2022, 05:53 PM
I genuinely feel a bit melancholy. I didn't expect to, I'm not really mourning the individual. It just feels like the end of an era, someone who has always been there now isn't. A reminder I'm getting old.

Likewise. I'm no monarchist but it feels like a moment in time that will be steadfast in history.

To think that in the last two years we've seen a worldwide pandemic, war in Europe and the death of the Queen is completely surreal.

James70
08-09-2022, 05:56 PM
R.I.P. Your Majesty, you have been a fantastic servant to the UK. Thank you for all your service.

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 05:57 PM
She's been there since before I was born. Long time!

She became queen the year my dad was born. It's a very different world now; the old class subservience has disappeared, and we no longer have an empire. Time to move into the modern era and dismantle the British class system completely, IMHO.

oconnors_strip
08-09-2022, 05:57 PM
I’m not a royalist but feeling sad at this news. She was a grandma and great grandma and her family will be upset at the speed of her health deteriorating and quick death. I have experienced this with my grandma and grandad and it’s horrible.

Colr
08-09-2022, 05:58 PM
Meeting Liz Truss and Boris Johnson yesterday will have sapped anyones will to go on

Mon Dieu4
08-09-2022, 06:01 PM
I’m not a royalist but feeling sad at this news. She was a grandma and great grandma and her family will be upset at the speed of her health deteriorating and quick death. I have experienced this with my grandma and grandad and it’s horrible.

My Nana had more comebacks than Elvis, better to get it over and done with than a slow burn imo

HUTCHYHIBBY
08-09-2022, 06:02 PM
I genuinely feel a bit melancholy. I didn't expect to, I'm not really mourning the individual. It just feels like the end of an era, someone who has always been there now isn't. A reminder I'm getting old.

Sums it up nicely. If I'm being honest I would probably be less benevolent if it had happened before my mother's passing but, having experienced that event I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

wookie70
08-09-2022, 06:03 PM
Very sad news. An incredible servant and figure of public life. Irreplaceable. She has already been replaced.

Colr
08-09-2022, 06:06 PM
To put her reign in perspective she was born when Britain had an empire on which the sun never set. By the end it was all but gone.

The Pointer
08-09-2022, 06:08 PM
Desperately sad news. Rest in peace your Majesty and thanks for serving this nation.

hibsbollah
08-09-2022, 06:09 PM
Meeting Liz Truss and Boris Johnson yesterday will have sapped anyones will to go on

Truss ended her. Don’t believe otherwise.

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 06:09 PM
Truss, the former Republican Liberal, bumping her gums.

Moulin Yarns
08-09-2022, 06:11 PM
Does anyone know if shops will be open as normal tomorrow?

Well, if you want to come to pitlochry, my wife will be opening the Highland Soap Co shop as normal. 😉

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 06:15 PM
Sums it up nicely. If I'm being honest I would probably be less benevolent if it had happened before my mother's passing but, having experienced that event I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Correct. It's a human loss at the end of the day. Losing a loved one is a terrible experience. She will leave a big hole to fill; we all grew up with her around. We don't have to be monarchists to appreciate the human loss.

Paulie Walnuts
08-09-2022, 06:16 PM
Well, if you want to come to pitlochry, my wife will be opening the Highland Soap Co shop as normal. 😉

Is that your wife’s? I have the whisky and honey hand soap! Great stuff.

SaulGoodman
08-09-2022, 06:17 PM
Well, if you want to come to pitlochry, my wife will be opening the Highland Soap Co shop as normal. 😉

That’s your wife’s? I love that soap.

Moulin Yarns
08-09-2022, 06:18 PM
Is that your wife’s? I have the whisky and honey hand soap! Great stuff.

She is only manager of the pitlochry shop, until next Thursday when she retires. 🤔

Sylar
08-09-2022, 06:20 PM
She has already been replaced.

Yes and no.

Northernhibee
08-09-2022, 06:21 PM
Truss, the former Republican Liberal, bumping her gums.

She has the charisma of the self service checkouts at Tesco.

hibsbollah
08-09-2022, 06:21 PM
Huw Edwards is doing a sterling job keeping this relentless sad and dignified tone going for hours on end. Earning his corn. I think he’s hooked up to a drip under the table to a mild downer.

LunasBoots
08-09-2022, 06:22 PM
Truss, the former Republican Liberal, bumping her gums.

She can't help but smirk in every interview

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 06:22 PM
She has the charisma of the self service checkouts at Tesco.

And the humanity.

Sir David Gray
08-09-2022, 06:23 PM
As much as this news was expected it's still the magnitude of it all that I find quite hard to fully take in.

The amount of things she has overseen and changes which have taken place in the nation and in the world during her reign is quite remarkable.

Whether you're a staunch Royalist or a fierce Republican I think most people will recognise that today is a significant day in history.

LunasBoots
08-09-2022, 06:23 PM
King Charles the Third

Northernhibee
08-09-2022, 06:23 PM
Huw Edwards is doing a sterling job keeping this relentless sad and dignified tone going for hours on end. Earning his corn. I think he’s hooked up to a drip under the table to a mild downer.

He's a fantastic broadcaster.

Paulie Walnuts
08-09-2022, 06:23 PM
She can't help but smirk in every interview

She is a ****ing freak.

One of the worst public speakers I’ve ever seen.

Mon Dieu4
08-09-2022, 06:24 PM
As much as this news was expected it's still the magnitude of it all that I find quite hard to fully take in.

The amount of things she has overseen and changes which have taken place in the nation and in the world during her reign is quite remarkable.

Whether you're a staunch Royalist or a fierce Republican I think most people will recognise that today is a significant day in history.

It's only significant if something changes, it won't, Chas will take over and it will be business as usual

Jones28
08-09-2022, 06:25 PM
She can't help but smirk in every interview

She managed to reference herself uncomfortably often.

Mon Dieu4
08-09-2022, 06:29 PM
Hibs tweet is out now, buckle the **** up

hibsbollah
08-09-2022, 06:29 PM
He's a fantastic broadcaster.

I agree. I just hope someone takes over from him on the broadcast at some point, he must be exhausted. I’ve not long come home but Mrs Bollah says he’s been keeping this up for hours, even before the announcement. It must be how Levein felt stuck in that toilet.

lapsedhibee
08-09-2022, 06:32 PM
She managed to reference herself uncomfortably often.

She's still running on v1.0 which was for distinguishing herself from Richy Rich and getting elected to PM. Her tech support need to install v1.1, for after having got elected, as soon as it's written.

Lendo
08-09-2022, 06:34 PM
Hibs tweet is out now, buckle the **** up

Why the **** did they leave comments turned on? Asking for trouble.

DH1875
08-09-2022, 06:35 PM
Hibs tweet is out now, buckle the **** up

Saying what? I don't have Twitter.

Willis1875
08-09-2022, 06:38 PM
Wonder if Celtic will put a tweet out

Mon Dieu4
08-09-2022, 06:38 PM
Saying what? I don't have Twitter.

Our thoughts are with the royal family at the passing of her majesty the Queen etc, the only nice comments on it are from Huns saying well done

gbhibby
08-09-2022, 06:38 PM
https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1567942677945106433?t=8gGJyhfXwEDfjLrSzlBXJw&s=19
Club Tweet

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Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 06:38 PM
King Charles the Third

Rhyming slang: going for a Charlie :greengrin

Colr
08-09-2022, 06:40 PM
As much as this news was expected it's still the magnitude of it all that I find quite hard to fully take in.

The amount of things she has overseen and changes which have taken place in the nation and in the world during her reign is quite remarkable.

Whether you're a staunch Royalist or a fierce Republican I think most people will recognise that today is a significant day in history.

It’s not really. The recent constitutional shenangans with lying Johnson showed the monarchy has no real teeth at all.

Their notable and we measure history in reigns but they have little bearing on events as they affect us.

Colr
08-09-2022, 06:41 PM
Wonder if Celtic will put a tweet out

I suspect the minutes silence at Parkhead and Anfield on Saturday will more honoured in the breech than the observance

Stairway 2 7
08-09-2022, 06:44 PM
I suspect the minutes silence at Parkhead and Anfield on Saturday will more honoured in the breech than the observance

Will there be games on

degenerated
08-09-2022, 06:46 PM
Well, if you want to come to pitlochry, my wife will be opening the Highland Soap Co shop as normal. [emoji6]'Er indoors is forever buying that stuff.

HiBremian
08-09-2022, 06:46 PM
It's only significant if something changes, it won't, Chas will take over and it will be business as usual

I’m not so sure. In amongst all the tributes, some facts are being missed. Lizzie was the last of the deliberately uneducated monarchs. She was fully dependent on her reactionary advisers. The conflict between “serving the empire” and being neutral was therefore never addressed. Charles, at least when it comes to climate,might well be something quite different. I can even see the day when the Hun hoards refuse to sing God Save the King at Castle Greyskull. Just a thought.


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CyberSauzee
08-09-2022, 06:46 PM
Will there be games on

I remember reading the Guardian long read on this and all sport is supposed to be cancelled. How that works in reality is anyone's guess

hibsbollah
08-09-2022, 06:49 PM
RMT cancels next weeks strikes.

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 06:50 PM
RMY cancels next weeks strikes.

Scabs :greengrin

Pretty Boy
08-09-2022, 06:58 PM
Nicholas Witchell is desperate to have a historic soundbite.

Problem is he's just not very good. 'This bleak September day eh eh eh very sad eh Archbishop of Canterbury'

Kato
08-09-2022, 06:59 PM
As much as this news was expected it's still the magnitude of it all that I find quite hard to fully take in.

The amount of things she has overseen and changes which have taken place in the nation and in the world during her reign is quite remarkable.

Whether you're a staunch Royalist or a fierce Republican I think most people will recognise that today is a significant day in history.Depends on how you view history. Is it the story of the people or is it a list of privileged people being born and dieing?

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lapsedhibee
08-09-2022, 07:00 PM
I remember reading the Guardian long read on this and all sport is supposed to be cancelled.

Bit of a disgrace that Hearts played on tonight even after they knew the news. Hope they get expunged from the Europa Conference League for it.

Stairway 2 7
08-09-2022, 07:01 PM
Bit of a disgrace that Hearts played on tonight even after they knew the news. Hope they get expunged from the Europa Conference League for it.

I think they gave up playing

Mon Dieu4
08-09-2022, 07:01 PM
Nicholas Witchell is desperate to have a historic soundbite.

Problem is he's just not very good. 'This bleak September day eh eh eh very sad eh Archbishop of Canterbury'

Someone was comparing her to a fish not too long ago

Keith_M
08-09-2022, 07:02 PM
I suspect the minutes silence at Parkhead and Anfield on Saturday will more honoured in the breech than the observance


"Minute's silence at Tynecastle during Hearts and İstanbul Başakşehir game cut short by referee"

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/queen-elizabeth-ii-dies-minutes-silence-at-tynecastle-during-hearts-and-istanbul-basaksehir-game-cut-short-by-referee-3837081

Kato
08-09-2022, 07:04 PM
It’s not really. The recent constitutional shenangans with lying Johnson showed the monarchy has no real teeth at all.

Their notable and we measure history in reigns but they have little bearing on events as they affect us.Agreed. She stuck to the rules handed to her when she was given the job and said nothing as her subjects were left more and more downtrodden, divided and gaslit.

At the beginning of her reign the working class were on an upward trajectory. On the day she died we were forced into hawk to the energy companies to protect their billions in profit.

If she had said something that would have been historic. A series of banal ceremonies has nothing to do with history at all.

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hibsbollah
08-09-2022, 07:05 PM
Someone was comparing her to a fish not too long ago

I thought that was weird too. What metaphor would be next?

‘The great hook of Mother Time has finally caught her and put her on the camp fire’

Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 07:09 PM
Agreed. She stuck to the rules handed to her when she was given the job and said nothing as her subjects were left more and more downtrodden, divided and gaslit.

At the beginning of her reign the working class were on an upward trajectory. On the day she died we were forced into hawk to the energy companies to protect their billions in profit.

If she had said something that would have been historic. A series of banal ceremonies has nothing to do with history at all.

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She couldn't as a constitutional monarch, and she respected the rules at all times. She had private views: for example, it's open secret she opposed what Thatcher's policies did to large parts of the UK. Their relationship wasn't great.

lapsedhibee
08-09-2022, 07:13 PM
Very sad news. An incredible servant and figure of public life. Irreplaceable.

I've never watched Upstairs Downstairs or Downton Abbey so I'm a little confused. We were her subjects yet she was our servant? How does that compute? :dunno:

Kato
08-09-2022, 07:13 PM
She couldn't as a constitutional monarch, and she respected the rules at all times. She had private views: for example, it's open secret she opposed what Thatcher's policies did to large parts of the UK. Their relationship wasn't great.As I said she chose to say nothing.

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Hibernia&Alba
08-09-2022, 07:16 PM
As I said she chose to say nothing.

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But the monarch is constitutionally bound to be apolitical. To get involved in party politics would create a constitutional crisis.