Operation London bridge

[Scorrie]

Yeah, that works! :aok:

Meanwhile, it's nice to have your prejudices symmetrically reinforced - https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1570171571280437249?s=20&t=dZX1U5nf4wrWyDW_ghxmbQ

Some of the responses to that tweet are comedy gold!

[Hibernia&Alba]

I need to get my black suit dry cleaned tomorrow for the funeral on Monday. Union Jack underpants and socks. Go staunch or go home.

[Jones28]

It’s getting mad, 9 hours to queue to see the coffin.

[Mon Dieu4]

It’s getting mad, 9 hours to queue to see the coffin.

It's fine the BBC just reminded everyone they have a 24 hour live stream if you want to pay your respects but can't make it in person

[Mon Dieu4]

Something I've noticed is how easily people are brainwashed or act like sheep, in St Giles people were walking past and you saw the occasional person crossing themselves but generally just having a look, in Westminster everyone is bowing or curtsying as they've seen the person in front of them do it and repeat and repeat, it's completely different

[Stairway 2 7]

35,000 viewed in Edinburgh apparently. Don't think I'd queue to see anyone's coffin.

[DaveF]

35,000 viewed in Edinburgh apparently. Don't think I'd queue to see anyone's coffin.

Isn't the Ibrox capacity 50,000? Poor show from those who dont do walking away.

[HH81]

I was thinking about this yesterday.

Won't the body be decomposing by now given it's not been kept in a cold environment...

So is the body in there and if so wouldn't it start to smell?

I must have been bored at work.

[Colr]

I kind of object to being forced into minutes silences at events but I use the time constructively to consider the benefits of a republic over a monarchy.

[Mon Dieu4]

I was thinking about this yesterday.

Won't the body be decomposing by now given it's not been kept in a cold environment...

So is the body in there and if so wouldn't it start to smell?

I must have been bored at work.

The coffin is lined with lead to keep the moisture out and slow down decomposing

[He's here!]

35,000 viewed in Edinburgh apparently. Don't think I'd queue to see anyone's coffin.

Me neither but clearly it meant a lot to to a lot of people. One of my sisters queued for 5 hours through the night and found it very emotional.

I see the queue in London is now 11 hours long. What I find hard to understand with this sort of thing is how hundreds of thousands of people are able to take so much time off work/daily commitments. Longest I can remember queuing was 3 hours for Hibs tickets back in the 90s and even then I was only able to do do because I was working night shifts.

[Paulie Walnuts]

35,000 viewed in Edinburgh apparently. Don't think I'd queue to see anyone's coffin.

Thought it would have been a hell of a lot more tbh.

[danhibees1875]

Thought it would have been a hell of a lot more tbh.

35,000 sounds low to me. :agree:

[weecounty hibby]

Approx 0.6% of the population of Scotland.

[SHODAN]

35,000 viewed in Edinburgh apparently. Don't think I'd queue to see anyone's coffin.

That's the Question Time pool now for whenever they come up here.

[hibsbollah]

The coffin is lined with lead to keep the moisture out and slow down decomposing

Rubbish, the lead is used to keep vampires out.

[Hibs4185]

So Hibs are 3 times more popular than the Queen?

100,000 for our parade in May 2016 and only 35,000 for the queen!

[Hibby70]

Rubbish, the lead is used to keep vampires out.

Or in?

[hibsbollah]

Or in?

Careful, you could get arrested these days for that sorta talk.

[Kato]

Approx 0.6% of the population of Scotland."Silent majority"

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[hibsbollah]

Well its taken The Guardian 8 days but there's finally a non-Queen news story at the top of their page.
Mass graves in Izium.

[JeMeSouviens]

Approx 0.6% of the population of Scotland.

Going by the vox pops quite a lot of them were up from N England.

It's quite funny, ultra-Unionists on twitter are triumphantly proclaiming that indy is dead. Making the exact same mistake the AUOB ultra-Nat types make: just because a large one-sided crowd is gathered together, it doesn't mean there isn't an equally large crowd sitting at home ignoring them.

[wookie70]

35,000 viewed in Edinburgh apparently. Don't think I'd queue to see anyone's coffin. 33000 according to Auntie. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62887444 Around what would be at Tiny and ER if we were both at home on a Saturday

[CyberSauzee]

Major news story is a queue has closed in London. Minor news is a mass grave uncovered in Ukraine and the UK is facing massive energy price increases.

[Kato]

Watching the ceremony from Wales. The choir's singing is beautiful. Twin Harp players too, nice vibe.

They seem to have built a huge rocket launcher in the middle of the cathedral.

tRuss looking she keeps on having to be reminded as to whether it's midnight or Mexico.

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[degenerated]

35,000 sounds low to me. :agree:BBC news reported it as 26,000 yesterday morning.

[Moulin Yarns]

Watching the ceremony from Wales. The choir's singing is beautiful. Twin Harp players too, nice vibe.

They seem to have built a huge rocket launcher in the middle of the cathedral.


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The rocket launcher is from the new series of Doctor Who or she is being launched into space 🤔

[wookie70]

BBC news reported it as 26,000 yesterday morning. The Palace probably said that was too low and advised there were far more. Either way it seems a fairl small number given the ridiculous amount of coverage it has received.

[DIXIHIBS]

So Hibs are 3 times more popular than the Queen?

100,000 for our parade in May 2016 and only 35,000 for the queen!

Hertz must be 10x more popular then...there's about 400k of them apparently.

[overdrive]

Watching the ceremony from Wales. The choir's singing is beautiful. Twin Harp players too, nice vibe.

They seem to have built a huge rocket launcher in the middle of the cathedral.

tRuss looking she keeps on having to be reminded as to whether it's midnight or Mexico.

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Did they have the military royal goat there again, or was that sacrificed as part of some ceremony in the past few days?

[He's here!]

Can't help but smile at the pages of quibbling from folk who claim to have zero interest in the Queen's passing about how many queued to see the her coffin.

Personally I thought it was a remarkable few days in which, as Nicola Sturgeon put it, Scotland did itself proud. I was glad to be part of it. Suspect Deeside and Edinburgh in particular will see a surge in tourist interest.

[Kato]

Can't help but smile at the pages of quibbling from folk who claim to have zero interest in the Queen's passing about how many queued to see the her coffin.

Personally I thought it was a remarkable few days in which, as Nicola Sturgeon put it, Scotland did itself proud. I was glad to be part of it. Suspect Deeside and Edinburgh in particular will see a surge in tourist interest.It's not quibbling about people wanting to show respects. It's the way it's been weaponised as though it has anything at all to do with pro or anti independence. It's cleary nothing to do with it.

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[Gatecrasher]

Can't help but smile at the pages of quibbling from folk who claim to have zero interest in the Queen's passing about how many queued to see the her coffin.

Personally I thought it was a remarkable few days in which, as Nicola Sturgeon put it, Scotland did itself proud. I was glad to be part of it. Suspect Deeside and Edinburgh in particular will see a surge in tourist interest.

The hate watchers on must be boosting the viewership if this thread is anything to go by :hilarious

[hibsbollah]

https://newsthump.com/2022/09/14/black-pringles-to-be-released-just-in-time-for-queens-funeral-snacks/?fbclid=IwAR0tytti7YDu4YIJ0yqSIfuIhCbBwBH8NXT5m2YC yOLUnJwgAlg3hmDSy7k#l84mnauotmp4emdn73n

[Hibernia&Alba]

The coffin is lined with lead to keep the moisture out and slow down decomposing

It will weigh a tonne. Hard work for the pallbearers.

[CyberSauzee]

Can't help but smile at the pages of quibbling from folk who claim to have zero interest in the Queen's passing about how many queued to see the her coffin.

Personally I thought it was a remarkable few days in which, as Nicola Sturgeon put it, Scotland did itself proud. I was glad to be part of it. Suspect Deeside and Edinburgh in particular will see a surge in tourist interest.

No time to be smiling when we're in a period of national mourning.

[Hibernia&Alba]

No time to be smiling when we're in a period of national mourning.

I almost smiled whilst watching the Rangers game the other night, but caught myself just in time, thus maintaining the dignity of the period.

[CyberSauzee]

This is called thinking outside the box. Or coffin...

https://twitter.com/DavieLegend/status/1570468452741283840?t=-ypMVXaFk6Ho3cji3lzN6w&s=19

[Hibernia&Alba]

This is called thinking outside the box. Or coffin...

https://twitter.com/DavieLegend/status/1570468452741283840?t=-ypMVXaFk6Ho3cji3lzN6w&s=19

On one of those sushi bar conveyor belts. It's a good idea.

[He's here!]

It's not quibbling about people wanting to show respects. It's the way it's been weaponised as though it has anything at all to do with pro or anti independence. It's cleary nothing to do with it.

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I'd agree it's got nothing to do with it and to be fair to Holyrood politicians (bar that clown Harvie) I've not seen anything other than quiet respect. BBC have to an extent tried to throw independence into the mix but largely to do with the fact they've too often put political commentators to the fore of the coverage who simply can't help themselves.

With queues in London now apparently 24 hours long and celebrity spotting now part of the coverage I'm increasingly impressed by Scotland's largely dignified handling of such a momentous occasion.

[superfurryhibby]

Can't help but smile at the pages of quibbling from folk who claim to have zero interest in the Queen's passing about how many queued to see the her coffin.

Personally I thought it was a remarkable few days in which, as Nicola Sturgeon put it, Scotland did itself proud. I was glad to be part of it. Suspect Deeside and Edinburgh in particular will see a surge in tourist interest.

I very much doubt it.


No time to be smiling when we're in a period of national mourning.

:tee hee

[ronaldo7]

This is called thinking outside the box. Or coffin...

https://twitter.com/DavieLegend/status/1570468452741283840?t=-ypMVXaFk6Ho3cji3lzN6w&s=19

It's been reported that over 400 people have been given some kind of help by the ambulance service/volunteers, most of them for fainting, a couple of women have been sexually assaulted whilst in the queue, and old guys keeling over whilst standing vigil.

They'll need another system in place for when Charlie pops his clogs.

[Hibernia&Alba]

It's been reported that over 400 people have been given some kind of help by the ambulance service/volunteers, most of them for fainting, a couple of women have been sexually assaulted whilst in the queue, and old guys keeling over whilst standing vigil.

They'll need another system in place for when Charlie pops his clogs.

What, seriously? Sometimes words just fail you.

[Moulin Yarns]

It's been reported that over 400 people have been given some kind of help by the ambulance service/volunteers, most of them for fainting, a couple of women have been sexually assaulted whilst in the queue, and old guys keeling over whilst standing vigil.

They'll need another system in place for when Charlie pops his clogs.

BBC news was interviewing some people in the queue with ambulance paramedics working on someone who was on a stretcher in the background. Mental they didn't notice.

[neil7908]

Couldn't have put it better myself:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/16/idea-of-monarchy-as-symbol-of-duty-or-sacrifice-a-lie-says-labours-clive-lewis

[danhibees1875]

This is called thinking outside the box. Or coffin...

https://twitter.com/DavieLegend/status/1570468452741283840?t=-ypMVXaFk6Ho3cji3lzN6w&s=19

Did they not do that in London anyway?

That's just basically what happened in Edinburgh on Monday at 2:30 was it not? I certainly felt less inclined to do the queue/st Giles thing after seeing it go past already.

Although I've never actually been in St Giles and I keep meaning to pop my head in!

[CapitalGreen]

What, seriously? Sometimes words just fail you.

26188

[hibsbollah]

26188

Was he sweating?

[He's here!]

What, seriously? Sometimes words just fail you.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-62932781

Jumped into the Thames after exposing himself and pushing against two women...seriously disturbed individual.

[wookie70]

Was he sweating? No but he had pizza in his other hand

[Hibernia&Alba]

Was he sweating?

:faf:

:top marks

[hibsbollah]

Couldn't have put it better myself:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/16/idea-of-monarchy-as-symbol-of-duty-or-sacrifice-a-lie-says-labours-clive-lewis

‘Thus, many are not there to honour the institution of monarchy or a royal individual; what is prevalent is the expressed need to feel part of something more than themselves.’

The problem with this sentence is not that it isn’t completely true and quite brilliant, in a way; it’s that 21st century contemporary Britain isn’t ready to hear it. His political career will be over by Monday.

[Hibernia&Alba]

‘Thus, many are not there to honour the institution of monarchy or a royal individual; what is prevalent is the expressed need to feel part of something more than themselves.’

The problem with this sentence is not that it isn’t completely true and quite brilliant, in a way; it’s that 21st century contemporary Britain isn’t ready to hear it. His political career will be over by Monday.

This is often the case in modern society. Just look what happens when there is a terrible accident or something like a mass shooting: people recording it on their phones, in order to become part of the story. The reaction to Diana's death, with people who never met her sobbing in the street in front of TV cameras, is a classic example.

[AugustaHibs]

Queue is now at 22 hours.

Would anyone on here actually spend a full day in a queue?

I don’t know what is possessing people to spend that long standing, surely verging on dangerous to your health.

[CapitalGreen]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-62932781

Jumped into the Thames after exposing himself and pushing against two women...seriously disturbed individual.

You’d need to be to spend 22 hours in a queue.

[wookie70]

Queue is now at 22 hours.

Would anyone on here actually spend a full day in a queue?

I don’t know what is possessing people to spend that long standing, surely verging on dangerous to your health.

I once queued up for Simple Minds tickets. Back in the days when you could drive on Princes Street. I parked the car and it ended up icing up on the inside. It felt warmer running round the block that queuing. We must have got there at 10pm and the next people in teh queue came at 7am, what's worse we knew them. I queued for loads of gigs overnight. David Bowie with Tin Machine must have had 500 or so and U2 was from teh Playhouse to the GPO and I was almost at the front. I can actually get why people are enjoying the queue as I have had many a laugh waiting to get Row A tickets etc. Mind you I was queuing for a future event and something that was fun. It was also staying in one place usually with sleeping bags, seats, music etc. Surely if you are there mourning, solemn and constantly shuffling forward it would be brutal. Saying that the King was out and about today so maybe the mourning is over, so confusing.

[marinello59]

Queue is now at 22 hours.

Would anyone on here actually spend a full day in a queue?

I don’t know what is possessing people to spend that long standing, surely verging on dangerous to your health.

I queued for four hours for a roller coaster ride at Disneyland Paris which broke down just as we reached the front of the queue. I don’t do queues now. :greengrin

[Hibernia&Alba]

I queued for four hours for a roller coaster ride at Disneyland Paris which broke down just as we reached the front of the queue. I don’t do queues now. :greengrin

I queued for Hearts tickets at Dens in 1986. Actually, I didn't, but I would have, had I known how it would unfold, and if I hadn't been about five years old.

[DH1875]

24 hour wait. How does that work if you need the toilet?
David Beckham apparently queued for 13 hours. Do we belive that?

[Hibernia&Alba]

24 hour wait. How does that work if you need the toilet?
David Beckham apparently queued for 13 hours. Do we belive that?

They have been given numbered wristbands, so they can keep their place in line.

[DH1875]

They have been given numbered wristbands, so they can keep their place in line.

So you can leave the queue and return then?

[Hibernia&Alba]

So you can leave the queue and return then?
Yes.

[OldEast]

So you can leave the queue and return then?

So if you live nearby, get your ticket, go home and rejoin hours later? Surely not.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Wonder if James Hewitt popped along in support of Harry.....

[He's here!]

So if you live nearby, get your ticket, go home and rejoin hours later? Surely not.

Given the vast scale of London, I don’t imagine living 'nearby' is likely to mean a gentle stroll home and back for many in the queue.

I guess this is where mobiles come into their own ie you could kill off a lot of time by downloading a stack of podcasts etc to listen to while you wait.

[stu in nottingham]

An interesting social psychology view on crowd behaviour in relation to queueing. In short, there are many and varied reasons for it.

This week, I have talked to a client with an addiction who after two months of untroubled abstinence and total lack of cravings had a slip-up unexpectedly. He talked of feeling low at hearing the current news almost constantly and said it reminded him of the loss of his own mother and grandmother. It is undoubtedly triggering for many as they relate it to their own lives and losses.

'But then there are those, whether royalist or not, for whom the royal family constitutes a canvas on to which they project the issues of their own lives – be it painful rifts or tensions or moments of joy and celebration. What happens in the lives of the royals evokes events in their own lives. The death of the Queen makes them think of the death of their own family members and others close to them. These people may grieve through the Queen, but not necessarily for the Queen.'

'Despite what we hear from the media, the reasons so many are gathering are complex and various'
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/15/crowd-behaviour-london-mourning-queen

[Keith_M]

...
'Despite what we hear from the media, the reasons so many are gathering are complex and various'
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/15/crowd-behaviour-london-mourning-queen


I thought that was a really interesting article, as it mentioned many reasons why people have either gone to see the coffin, or even been affected emotionally by something they genuinely thought they didn't care about.

One similar thought I had was about how people look at the Millennium as a significant period in history (despite the fact it's really just a change of a number) and how it made a lot of people reflect on their lives.

Just think, the bank notes and coins you have just now could one day become collector's items.

[CropleyWasGod]

https://twitter.com/HRWright/status/1571087456375828484?t=Y4VlLSyqqd0NHkzDbQ2JEw&s=08

[ronaldo7]

According to Lindsay Hoyle we're about to see the most important event the world will ever see.

Absolutely bonkers.

[marinello59]

According to Lindsay Hoyle were about to see the most important event the world will ever see.

Absolutely bonkers.

Off the scale madness.

[Hiber-nation]

According to Lindsay Hoyle we're about to see the most important event the world will ever see.

Absolutely bonkers.

What a slavering erse that man is.

[Hibrandenburg]

What a slavering erse that man is.

He grips my ****. I get that some people's accents change depending on the environment they inhabit, but he is consciously trying to sound posh and talks so slowly in doing so but still his Lancashire accent surfaces despite his best efforts.

[hibsbollah]

He grips my ****. I get that some people's accents change depending on the environment they inhabit, but he is consciously trying to sound posh and talks so slowly in doing so but still his Lancashire accent surfaces despite his best efforts.

I’ve watched him for months letting Boris get away with refusal to answer questions. He has a Stauncher than Staunch history, demanding BAA rename Heathrow Lady Diana Airport and anti EU and Spain over Gibraltar. He’s got a huge majority in a part of the world that usually votes in Tories.

It’s like the term Red Tory was reserved for him. Although John Bercow had a few demons, he was a far better Speaker.

[Kato]

According to Lindsay Hoyle we're about to see the most important event the world will ever see.

Absolutely bonkers.Heard that. Can a spittle be more licked?

Aboslute weirdo comment.

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[SHODAN]

After Monday are we done?

[SChibs]

After Monday are we done?

Im almost done right now. Seriously considering emigrating if Scotland doesn't get independence. The last week has just shown me what kind of place we are really living in and it's horrible

[bringbackbenny]

After Monday are we done?

Yes. Until the Coronation.

[Hiber-nation]

Yes. Until the Coronation.

Jesus has that not been done yet? This is absolutely bizarre.

[CropleyWasGod]

Jesus has that not been done yet? This is absolutely bizarre.

The last one was over a year after accession.

[Keith_M]

Jesus has that not been done yet? This is absolutely bizarre.


Will be next year, possibly June.

[Hiber-nation]

The last one was over a year after accession.

Good, plenty notice to book a holiday :aok:

[danhibees1875]

Im almost done right now. Seriously considering emigrating if Scotland doesn't get independence. The last week has just shown me what kind of place we are really living in and it's horrible

I get how the monarchy isn't everyone's cup of tea (it's not overly mine, but not to the same degree as people seem to voice on here) but in what way is it "horrible"? :dunno:

At best it's interesting and poignant - at worst, it's meh.

The only thing horrible has been those who are unable to separate their negative views on a monarchy with celebrating the death of an old woman.

[WhileTheChief..]

Not really watched much coverage since it moved on from Scotland but I caught the ‘highlights’ on the news.

The whole vigil thing baffles me but the size of the queue was extraordinary. Fair play to those who chose to go for it.

I think it’s shown the UK in a brilliant light throughout the world though. Some of the scenes were amazing even if it’s not usually your thing. Been a cool little bit of history to live through.

[CropleyWasGod]

According to Lindsay Hoyle we're about to see the most important event the world will ever see.

Absolutely bonkers.

The Queen, wherever she is, has just taken a draw of her spliff and said to Elvis "what the **** did he just say?"

The two of them, Mandela and Mother Theresa have collapsed in a fit of the giggles.

Gandhi has said "****, this **** is strong."

[Just_Jimmy]

The Queen, wherever she is, has just taken a draw of her spliff and said to Elvis "what the **** did he just say?"

The two of them, Mandela and Mother Theresa have collapsed in a fit of the giggles.

Gandhi has said "****, this **** is strong."And Georgie Best, Lawrie Reilly and Gordon Smith have said shut up, we're trying to watch the 2016 scottish cup Final in peace.

God isn't there... he's playing in the aforementioned final.

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[Hibernia&Alba]

Will be next year, possibly June.

Isn't the coronation always a year and a day after accession, or do I have that wrong?

[CropleyWasGod]

Isn't the coronation always a year and a day after accession, or do I have that wrong?

The last one was a year and a few months. February ( I think) and then June.

[SteveHFC]

Was just on the bus and they stopped for the minutes silence when cars were going past.

[Kato]

The last one was a year and a few months. February ( I think) and then June.It's a tradition to allow any pretenders to the throne to stake their claim and have it examined. It also allows for the validity of the heir to be proven, in case he was a doppelganger. If we lived 500 years ago maybe Andrew would have fancied his tattie against an aging heir. Their two gangs would have met up and had a pagger and whoever won would then be King.

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[DaveF]

Was just on the bus and they stopped for the minutes silence when cars were going past.

Buses stopping, lol. This country has lost the flipping plot.

[SteveHFC]

Buses stopping, lol. This country has lost the flipping plot.

It already has lost the plot.

[CropleyWasGod]

Pal of mine.

https://www-glasgowtimes-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/scottish-news/22296162.amp/

[Just_Jimmy]

Pal of mine.

https://www-glasgowtimes-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/scottish-news/22296162.amp/Excellent. Good luck to them!

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[Hibbyradge]

It already has lost the plot.

That's what he said! :hilarious

[norhfc]

For those who have only good things to say about the monarchy Id suggest looking into the Crown Estate. For a local example, Fort Kinnaird shopping centre. They sold the land for a couple of hundred million and gave nothing back to the local community. That money went straight to the Crown not even a small percent was left to the likes of Niddrie. You wont see these stories in the media either.

[DaveF]

For those who have only good things to say about the monarchy Id suggest looking into the Crown Estate. For a local example, Fort Kinnaird shopping centre. They sold the land for a couple of hundred million and gave nothing back to the local community. That money went straight to the Crown not even a small percent was left to the likes of Niddrie. You wont see these stories in the media either.

Every day is a school day. I never knew that. Recall cycling up to newcraighall (basically following the old no14 bus route) and it just seemed like brown belt land beyond the row of little cottages.

[Gatecrasher]

For those who have only good things to say about the monarchy Id suggest looking into the Crown Estate. For a local example, Fort Kinnaird shopping centre. They sold the land for a couple of hundred million and gave nothing back to the local community. That money went straight to the Crown not even a small percent was left to the likes of Niddrie. You wont see these stories in the media either.

The crown estate isn't controlled by the monarchy.

[Mon Dieu4]

The crown estate isn't controlled by the monarchy.

Around the time of the Fort Kinnaird scandal, they gave the Crown Estate to the Scottish Government to handle but held back their stake in Fort Kinnaird and sold it 2 years later for £167m

[Gatecrasher]

Around the time of the Fort Kinnaird scandal, they gave the Crown Estate to the Scottish Government to handle but held back their stake in Fort Kinnaird and sold it 2 years later for £167m

The Crown Estate in the rest of the UK are run by commissioners and any money raised is paid to the Treasury. The monarch has no involvement.

[Berwickhibby]

Around the time of the Fort Kinnaird scandal, they gave the Crown Estate to the Scottish Government to handle but held back their stake in Fort Kinnaird and sold it 2 years later for £167m

As a deal was already in motion to sell the land to build Fort Kinnaird. The money raised went into the treasury ie public funds :agree:

[danhibees1875]

For those who have only good things to say about the monarchy Id suggest looking into the Crown Estate. For a local example, Fort Kinnaird shopping centre. They sold the land for a couple of hundred million and gave nothing back to the local community. That money went straight to the Crown not even a small percent was left to the likes of Niddrie. You wont see these stories in the media either.

Does that relate to the deal being discussed now by others, or was there an additional deal around the selling of the land that you're referring to?

Curious to read more about it, but everything I can find is just the selling of their half of a JV (that it sounds like they bought into some time after FK was first built?).

[Stairway 2 7]

Not sure why so many people are angry and sneering at people who wanted to queue. It would never be me but many wanted to pay their respects. I find it alien but millions loved the queen. I don't understand millions loving Jesus but each to their own. Some of the accounts here from a mixed bunch

https://www.ft.com/content/e15202cd-02a8-43b4-a9ba-5675cb212854

[grunt]

Thank goodness I got there early to get a good seat

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdAjpkyX0AE6VCE?format=png&name=small

[James310]

Thank goodness I got there early to get a good seat

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdAjpkyX0AE6VCE?format=png&name=small

Why would anyone watch it in a park when it's on so many TV channels. Silly decision to put up a large screen from I assume the council.

[grunt]

Why would anyone watch it in a park when it's on so many TV channels. Silly decision to put up a large screen from I assume the council.
I guess it's about community, allowing folks to share the experience and their feelings with others.

[CropleyWasGod]

Why would anyone watch it in a park when it's on so many TV channels. Silly decision to put up a large screen from I assume the council.

For the same reasons large screens are put up to screen football when it's on the telly, I suppose. A sense of community being one.

[James310]

The bagpipes sound wonderful.

[Stairway 2 7]

For the same reasons large screens are put up to screen football when it's on the telly, I suppose. A sense of community being one.

I'd say football is unlike anything else in, I doubt anything would get people in Scotland watching in big numbers a park at 11am.

[Seekyit]

The bagpipes sound wonderful.

I thought so too. Wonder what the tune was?

[hibsbollah]

The bagpipes sound wonderful.

…Liz Truss less so. The delivery of a moron.

[CropleyWasGod]

I thought so too. Wonder what the tune was?

I didn't see it, but I believe it was Chi Mi Na Morbheanna. The Mist Covered Mountains (aka Smile in Your Sleep).

[Iain G]

…Liz Truss less so. The delivery of a moron.

Nicola looked even more miserable than usual today...suppose at least it's a funeral! 🤣

[James310]

…Liz Truss less so. The delivery of a moron.

Would you prefer she said it in a posh privately educated voice?

[Seekyit]

I didn't see it, but I believe it was Chi Mi Na Morbheanna. The Mist Covered Mountains (aka Smile in Your Sleep).

Cheers for that.

[Moulin Yarns]

I'm out in garden getting on with some weeding, my wife won't let me cut the grass or get the strimmer out, but I was thinking, how many minutes silence does one person need?

[CropleyWasGod]

Would you prefer she said it in a posh privately educated voice?

Are you saying that morons can't be privately educated? 😄

[hibsbollah]

Would you prefer she said it in a posh privately educated voice?

I didn’t mention ‘posh’. Sounding moronic is not exclusive to any particular social class, I’m sure you agree.

[James310]

Are you saying that morons can't be privately educated? 😄

Eh? Where did I say that? They certainly post some strange takes on here though. 😉

It was a woman reading a script, that is all.

[LunasBoots]

…Liz Truss less so. The delivery of a moron.

Nor the queue of the last lot of failed prime ministers

[ronaldo7]

The Queen, wherever she is, has just taken a draw of her spliff and said to Elvis "what the **** did he just say?"

The two of them, Mandela and Mother Theresa have collapsed in a fit of the giggles.

Gandhi has said "****, this **** is strong."

She'd have been disappointed with the musical accompaniment today. A couple of tracks from Bob Marley and the wailers might have been better. Who the cap fit, or no woman no cry, as she draws down the last spliff.

[grunt]

It was a woman reading a script, that is all.

Aye, and not reading it very well at all. Totally inadequate, actually.

[makaveli1875]

Aye, and not reading it very well at all. Totally inadequate, actually.

She certainly doesn’t have Boris Johnson’s gift of the gab that’s for sure

[Stairway 2 7]

Edinburgh looked better by a mile

[lucky]

There people homeless and going hungry, we have a cost living crisis, escalating energy prices but not one journalist or TV programme have commented how much this utter nonsense is costing the country.

[Pretty Boy]

Get the bagpipes back oot. This is a dirge.

[grunt]

Get the bagpipes back oot. This is a dirge.

Errr. [emoji23]

[Peanut Shaz]

Say what you like, our military do it best. Monarchist or not, it is a spectacle.

[Stairway 2 7]

There people homeless and going hungry, we have a cost living crisis, escalating energy prices but not one journalist or TV programme have commented how much this utter nonsense is costing the country.

8 million I'd seen. 2 million visitors expected to fly in so not sure if they will recoup it. Over 4 billion estimated to watch some of it, more than the 2.5 billion that watched Diana's wedding.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lbc.co.uk/news/record-41bn-people-expected-towatch-queens-funeral-with-2m-people-expected-to-fl/

[lucky]

Say what you like, our military do it best. Monarchist or not, it is a spectacle.

Is it our military? I thought the British armed forces were multi cultural? All the sailor's are white, as are all the toy soldiers in the red marching beside them.

[Iain G]

Is it just me, or from some angles it looks like the coffin is wrapped in a giant creme egg wrapper...

The Queen's Funeral, sponsored by Cadburys 😁

[CropleyWasGod]

Is it just me, or from some angles it looks like the coffin is wrapped in a giant creme egg wrapper...

The Queen's Funeral, sponsored by Cadburys 😁

I was thinking more Quality Street.

[Peanut Shaz]

Is it our military? I thought the British armed forces were multi cultural? All the sailor's are white, as are all the toy soldiers in the red marching beside them.

Of course the majority of the British armed forces will be white. You maybe need to look a bit closer at the bigger picture. I've seen Fijian soldiers, Ghurkas etc in the parade, all wearing the uniform.

[Berwickhibby]

Is it our military? I thought the British armed forces were multi cultural? All the sailor's are white, as are all the toy soldiers in the red marching beside them.

“Toy Soldiers” :confused: Guardsman all trained infantry soldiers

[Iain G]

There people homeless and going hungry, we have a cost living crisis, escalating energy prices but not one journalist or TV programme have commented how much this utter nonsense is costing the country.

Looking at this as a one of spend is one thing but maybe we should take all the trillions poured into our armed services and spend it on the NHS, moderna and efficient housing and the welfare state instead? 🤷🏻*♂️

[Stairway 2 7]

Looking at this as a one of spend is one thing but maybe we should take all the trillions poured into our armed services and spend it on the NHS, moderna and efficient housing and the welfare state instead? 🤷🏻*♂️

Thanks to Vlad and his genocide, about every nation in Europe is increasing it military spending. I'd prefer one strong Euro army with nuclear capabilities but I guess that's for a different thread, as even if we were a Republic we'd have the army

[lucky]

“Toy Soldiers” :confused: Guardsman all trained infantry soldiers

I bow to your greater knowledge of regiments of the British army but the majority look old enough to be retired

[Zambernardi1875]

There people homeless and going hungry, we have a cost living crisis, escalating energy prices but not one journalist or TV programme have commented how much this utter nonsense is costing the country.

Unionists will somehow claim it was all worth it.

[Stairway 2 7]

Unionists will somehow claim it was all worth it.

Is unionists not about the union.

[Zambernardi1875]

Is unionists not about the union.

What you slavering about now

[Stairway 2 7]

What you slavering about now

There are unionists that aren't pro monarchy (one on here), so your slavering

[Zambernardi1875]

There are unionists that aren't pro monarchy (one on here), so your slavering

Take a day off mate.

[grunt]

Australian TV presenters not knowing who this person is ...!

https://twitter.com/Shahryar_Sultan/status/1571811768946642946?s=20&t=BvSqGLeIabPM-9OjJhzfrQ

[Stairway 2 7]

Take a day off mate.

Cracking well thought out come back lad

[Zambernardi1875]

Cracking well thought out come back lad

Gave it as much thought as you deserve. Weird

[Scouse Hibee]

That was a tremendous scene to watch, no one does pomp and ceremony like Britain. A fitting tribute to
a marvellous Queen.

[Stairway 2 7]

That was a tremendous scene to watch, no one does pomp and ceremony like Britain. A fitting tribute to
a marvellous Queen.

If its the most watched TV show even then there was a lot of pressure on it. Fortunately loads of Chinese, Indians and Americans would have lapped it up. Hopefully a good boost in advertising for Edinburgh, especially for the service sector that has been blootered by covid

[He's here!]

That was a tremendous scene to watch, no one does pomp and ceremony like Britain. A fitting tribute to
a marvellous Queen.

Couldn't agree more. Really powerful stuff and I thought the service itself was spot-on.

Watched it all from start to finish - along, it would appear, with the usual bunch of whingers on here who profess not to care ;-)

[lucky]

Is it finished ? Maybe we can all move on from her death now?

[Iain G]

Is it finished ? Maybe we can all move on from her death now?

Yeah we have her resurrection to deal with next 😁

[Scouse Hibee]

Is it finished ? Maybe we can all move on from her death now?

No, plenty more to come yet.

[ronaldo7]

Is it finished ? Maybe we can all move on from her death now?

They're working up the annual service of remembrance.

Back again next year.

[Moulin Yarns]

They're working up the annual service of remembrance.

Back again next year.

As long as it's an annual holiday as well 😉

[Bristolhibby]

As long as it's an annual holiday as well 😉

Coronation will be. God bless you sir! Hopefully in the Summer with a cold beer.

J

[Moulin Yarns]

Arr! Have all you lily livered land lubbers forgotten about worldwide talk like a pirate day?? 🏴*☠️🦜

[Stairway 2 7]

Coronation will be. God bless you sir! Hopefully in the Summer with a cold beer.

J

Hope so got loads done in the house. Watched 15 minutes of it but no my cup of tea so watching a film with the bairns, happy days

[Zambernardi1875]

Couldn't agree more. Really powerful stuff and I thought the service itself was spot-on.

Watched it all from start to finish - along, it would appear, with the usual bunch of whingers on here who profess not to care ;-)

Working mate, when this circus effects peoples health, if there able to eat and income for small businesses I care, not that it seems some give two hoots about.

[ronaldo7]

Couldn't agree more. Really powerful stuff and I thought the service itself was spot-on.

Watched it all from start to finish - along, it would appear, with the usual bunch of whingers on here who profess not to care ;-)

You're going to have to go cold turkey from tomorrow.

How will you cope. 😂

[Stairway 2 7]

Hopefully another extra paid holiday next year. UK has less paid holiday than all of the rest of western Europe, 4 days less in total than France. Something I can see getting challenged for the worse outside the EU. American annual leave is boak inducing

[grunt]

UK has less paid holiday than all of the rest of western Europe, 4 days less in total than France. Something I can see getting challenged for the worse outside the EU.
Will of the people.

[James310]

You are all being a bit premature, we have still to see the breaking of the wand.

[overdrive]

You are all being a bit premature, we have still to see the breaking of the wand.

Even Kirsty Young was stifling her giggles at that. It was the banging his wand on the ground that set me off.

[Iain G]

You are all being a bit premature, we have still to see the breaking of the wand.

You're a wizard Charlie!

[Bishop Hibee]

Haven’t seen any of it. I did see a post on Facebook from someone watching on the big screen at Holyrood Park. Seemed a sparse attendance. Anybody here go?

[He's here!]

You are all being a bit premature, we have still to see the breaking of the wand.

:-)

Yep, they're only just arriving in Windsor now. I see Sir Jackie Stewart in the front row of the chapel.

Most emotive moment for me so far was the lone piper at Westminster, closely followed by the pipes and drums as the coffin made its way to the cathedral.

[hibsbollah]

Starmer ‘We are lucky to call ourselves Elizabethans’.

[Mon Dieu4]

Starmer ‘We are lucky to call ourselves Elizabethans’.

I've only seen about 5 minutes of it, you'd think Napoleon was about to invade the way the armed forces are all dressed

[DH1875]

Im almost done right now. Seriously considering emigrating if Scotland doesn't get independence. The last week has just shown me what kind of place we are really living in and it's horrible

You do realise that had we won independence that she would still have been our queen and that we would still have had to put up with it all, don't you?

[hibsbollah]

I've only seen about 5 minutes of it, you'd think Napoleon was about to invade the way the armed forces are all dressed

:agree: I’ve seen swans with less plumage than some of them.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2022/09/19/british-state-funerals-reinforce-the-monarchy-s-legitimacy_5997543_4.html

[Pretty Boy]

Skye Boat Song getting belted out. Nice tribute to the real Charles III.

[ronaldo7]

Say what you like, our military do it best. Monarchist or not, it is a spectacle.

Disney would give them a run for their money. Pity it couldn't have been done at night to see the light show in comparison.

The dressing up boxes have been well disturbed though.

[Pretty Boy]

:agree: I’ve seen swans with less plumage than some of them.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2022/09/19/british-state-funerals-reinforce-the-monarchy-s-legitimacy_5997543_4.html

I'd quite like to see a side by side with Bastille Day. They can't be that far apart in terms of scale and pageantry.

In spite of myself I quite like those kind of things. It's ridiculous, expensive and reinforces a lot of stuff I don't like (the funeral, not Bastille Day) but I quite admire the discipline and planning.

[Stairway 2 7]

It's crazy to me why the rest of the world wants to watch it in such detail.

Just about all French channels were playing it today some from 5am non stop
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/media/article/2022/09/18/french-tv-won-t-miss-a-minute-of-queen-elizabeth-ii-s-funeral_5997442_22.html

Nbc abc cnn and fox all playing it at the same time. Chinese and Indian state TV showing it all day also. Can't think of any funeral I would want to watch bar someone I knew or an ex hibs player perhaps

[Stairway 2 7]

I'd quite like to see a side by side with Bastille Day. They can't be that far apart in terms of scale and pageantry.

In spite of myself I quite like those kind of things. It's ridiculous, expensive and reinforces a lot of stuff I don't like (the funeral, not Bastille Day) but I quite admire the discipline and planning.

Bastille day looks very similar actually. The US love a military procession too. The tattoo shows that every nation has a section of their army reserved for pomp

[overdrive]

There must be a technical fault on the BBC Sport homepage as it showing headlines from the BBC News homepage about the funeral. I’ve submitted an online form to make them aware of the error :wink:

[overdrive]

The state of the grass outside the door at Windsor. Surely that’s a show of disrespect to the late monarch from the groundskeeper!

[Mon Dieu4]

Making Ponies and dogs mourn as well, that's next level

[overdrive]

50 or 60 dogs she had over her life, many given as gifts. If that was anyone else they’d be branded irresponsible

[grunt]

50 or 60 dogs she had over her life, many given as gifts. If that was anyone else they’d be branded irresponsible
:greengrin

[Hibby70]

Watched a bit this morning and just back with the dog. Thoughtthey were showing a replay but now realise it's a second service!

Might as well just take it on a world tour. Imagine the amount they could make.

[Betty Boop]

Take a day off mate.

Maybe you should follow your own advice.

[Mon Dieu4]

Nothing says the teaching of Jesus like the richest people in the in the land, Jewell's and gold worth millions and a priest decked out like Liberace

[Moulin Yarns]

It's crazy to me why the rest of the world wants to watch it in such detail.

Just about all French channels were playing it today some from 5am non stop
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/media/article/2022/09/18/french-tv-won-t-miss-a-minute-of-queen-elizabeth-ii-s-funeral_5997442_22.html

Nbc abc cnn and fox all playing it at the same time. Chinese and Indian state TV showing it all day also. Can't think of any funeral I would want to watch bar someone I knew or an ex hibs player perhaps

I thought it was because the royal family bring millions to the UK? Must be of interest to the tourists more than the natives! Arr! Jim lad!

[Stairway 2 7]

I thought it was because the royal family bring millions to the UK? Must be of interest to the tourists more than the natives! Arr! Jim lad!

30 million watched BBC watched BBC news the day she died apparently, will be huge today I suspect also but doubtful many will watch all of it. 4 billion worldwide is crazy, uks soft power is about the last thing that is significant for it worldwide

[hibbydog]

There’s only so much pomp and ceremony that I can take.

Some of them really look ridiculous.

Surely a few hymns, some nice words and a couple of speakers is enough for everyone?

Even if the most revered hero ever died, you’d have thought that half an hour is plenty for a funeral,

Baffling

[Hibby70]

At least she'll have a snooker cue in the afterlife.

Couple of frames with Alex Higgins as a welcome

[Hibrandenburg]

The state of the grass outside the door at Windsor. Surely that’s a show of disrespect to the late monarch from the groundskeeper!

MI5 have already released a wanted picture of him after adding him to the most wanted list.

[ronaldo7]

At least she'll have a snooker cue in the afterlife.

Couple of frames with Alex Higgins as a welcome

Nae extension.

[Moulin Yarns]

Watched a bit this morning and just back with the dog. Thoughtthey were showing a replay but now realise it's a second service!

Might as well just take it on a world tour. Imagine the amount they could make.

3rd service, there was one in Edinburgh.

Actually 5th service because Cardiff and Belfast had them as well!

Lost count of how many minutes silence there has been!!

[Willis1875]

3rd service, there was one in Edinburgh.

Actually 5th service because Cardiff and Belfast had them as well!

Lost count of how many minutes silence there has been!!

With a bit of luck after today the whole thing will go away on an extended silence

[stuart-farquhar]

Can't wait for next week's episode. Loving this Crown series. Hopefully a bit more action mind.

[Sir David Gray]

I'm not a supporter of the monarchy but I really enjoyed that today. It was an extraordinary event on a scale which is quite difficult to fully comprehend.

It was a moment in history that people will be talking about for hundreds of years to come.

[Berwickhibby]

Well done all the military and public services, you did the late queen proud with todays service :applause:

[grunt]

Well done all the military and public services, you did the late queen proud with todays service :applause:Agreed. Everyone involved should be proud of what they've done today. Pretty much faultless.

[overdrive]

Agreed. Everyone involved should be proud of what they've done today. Pretty much faultless.

Well except for the bishop (or whatever he was) that dropped his shopping list next to the coffin

[ballengeich]

There must be a technical fault on the BBC Sport homepage as it showing headlines from the BBC News homepage about the funeral. I’ve submitted an online form to make them aware of the error :wink:
I thought about doing the same regarding BBC Scotland's repeated references to Elizabeth the second.

[hibsbollah]

I'd quite like to see a side by side with Bastille Day. They can't be that far apart in terms of scale and pageantry.

In spite of myself I quite like those kind of things. It's ridiculous, expensive and reinforces a lot of stuff I don't like (the funeral, not Bastille Day) but I quite admire the discipline and planning.

I think that was the gist of the article, kind of ‘Mon dieu. Those rosbifs are serious about the organised pageantry lark’.

It’s not surprising when you think about it, there’s military precision about the occasion because the military and the monarchy (with the Church of England, and the civil service as supporting cast) always operate side by side and one wouldn’t exist without the other. In France the Catholic Church got sidelined from the state but otherwise it’s a similar relationship.

[overdrive]

50 or 60 dogs she had over her life, many given as gifts. If that was anyone else they’d be branded irresponsible

I’ve just realised with the vagueness of “50 or 60” dogs that dogs must be to her Maj as children are to Boris Johnson with his 5 or 6 or 7 children

[Hibernia&Alba]

I saw the Westminster Abbey service and some of the procession through London, but then fell asleep for three hours. My honorary staunch titles have been revoked :greengrin

It was some event, though. I enjoyed it until they sang GSTK, then they ruined it all :greengrin

[Keith_M]

Is it finished yet?

[Hibernia&Alba]

Is it finished yet?

Aye, the old girl has gone. Whatever one thinks of the monarchy, it's certainly the end of an era. Even I will miss her; she's always been there.

[Keith_M]

"As a city without an official outdoor screening planned, I went to The Vue at the St Enoch Centre and was surprised by the audience turnout.

The screenings started at 10am and were projected to run for approximately three hours. Regular concession items were not available, but staff members were present to offer free water, tea, and coffee to customers.

At 10.15am the cinema, like the shopping centre surrounding it, was eerily silent. By 11am the trickle of viewers into the screening room was barely more than a dozen.

Watching such an arcane ceremony in the cinema was a great experience, but the empty seats took away from the suggestion of sharing the moment with other community members.

At approximately 11.55am, scenes of the national moment of silence were broadcast from cities across the UK. In the cinema, some viewers looked up from their phones.

Eyes in the cinema stayed dry and people slowly trickled out just as they had come in, a testament to the casual indifference the state funeral evoked across Glasgow."


Queens Funeral in Vue Cinema, Glasgow (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/watched-queens-funeral-glasgow-cinema-162913052.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvLnVrLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKuBSR4gaUKgQCPnYRl-_iOeknRxm2g9SQ2h9YUfYhAQeZM0cWwaib9twOik3AkNEw-rtQ8e93QSFy0wNhpRfuUeIJWp2EUdMyd5bSaE7UxdYgGzSVVlV tzTYMgrlViokA5IojXo6v8_BT0E1JtWwd_5oFH38l3-D4_7SS77uoMV)

[Pretty Boy]

Aye, the old girl has gone. Whatever one thinks of the monarchy, it's certainly the end of an era. Even I will miss her; she's always been there.

I think that sums up my feelings.

I'm far from a royalist but I feel a bit sad at the passage of time. End of an era and a constant presence has gone, watching the events today you kind of expected the Queen to be there front and centre as she is for these things (and I know she technically was but you know what I mean).

Billy Bragg, hardly a raging right wing lunatic, summed it up nicely for me. She was arguably the only figure who's presence could mean as much to a 20 year old as an 80 year old, Charles will never have that universality. When my wives cousin received a Military Cross a few years back he really wanted it to be the Queen who presented it, A N Other just wouldn't have been the same.

I'll admit I'm someone who gets a bit melancholy when I throw out a pair of socks that have served me well and I still cry at the end of ET so I am hardly a reflective barometer of the national mood. I'm just glad the official mourning period is over, there are extremes on both sides who have shown themselves up. From an indifferent viewpoint the coverage has been a bit saccharine. However the crowds across the UK have seemed to be, generally speaking, genuine in their sadness. The unofficial mourning hasn't been OTT in it's nationalism, the flags and bombast that you see at weddings and jubilees have been largely absent and the grief, such as it is, seems more measured than something like the funeral of Diana.

[Iain G]

Nothing says the teaching of Jesus like the richest people in the in the land, Jewell's and gold worth millions and a priest decked out like Liberace

A lovely display of the fabrication of religion to appease the masses and support the rich being pampered to and covered in bling

[Hibernia&Alba]

A lovely display of the fabrication of religion to appease the masses and support the rich being pampered to and covered in bling

Organised religion does that very well - entrenches hierarchy and deference. When you have a monarch as head of a religion, the impact is intensified.

[CyberSauzee]

I happily missed it all, I was on a train back to London. Did our taxes get spent on anything worthwhile, or just a bunch of snobs putting on a show to keep us oiks in our places?

[Hibernia&Alba]

Here's a terrific piece of history: Queen Victoria's funeral, 1901. The first such funeral to be captured on film. 121 years on, and it's exactly the same ceremony.


https://youtu.be/t9yiG3EUz_A

[He's here!]

I'm not a supporter of the monarchy but I really enjoyed that today. It was an extraordinary event on a scale which is quite difficult to fully comprehend.

It was a moment in history that people will be talking about for hundreds of years to come.

Well put.

I thought it was stunning from start to finish. I was a bit sceptical about the need for a second service at Windsor but after the spectacular grandeur of Westminster it turned out to be a more poignant affair and rounded the day off beautifully. The Queen's piper playing that solo as the coffin was lowered was very emotional.

[overdrive]

…Liz Truss less so. The delivery of a moron.

Its not often you’d be thinking “I wish Boris was PM in this situation”

[Sir David Gray]

Here's a terrific piece of history: Queen Victoria's funeral, 1901. The first such funeral to be captured on film. 121 years on, and it's exactly the same ceremony.


https://youtu.be/t9yiG3EUz_A

I love hearing stuff like that.

It was well put by one commentator who said something like it was an historical event played out in the modern age.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Well put.

I thought it was stunning from start to finish. I was a bit sceptical about the need for a second service at Windsor but after the spectacular grandeur of Westminster it turned out to be a more poignant affair and rounded the day off beautifully. The Queen's piper playing that solo as the coffin was lowered was very emotional.

I'm not sure whether you are Hew Edwards or Lindsey Hoyle :wink:

[Hibernia&Alba]

I love hearing stuff like that.

It was well put by one commentator who said something like it was an historical event played out in the modern age.

Same gun carriage for the funeral, I think. It was mentioned in commentary that Victoria's funeral was the first time it was used.

[Stairway 2 7]

Here's a terrific piece of history: Queen Victoria's funeral, 1901. The first such funeral to be captured on film. 121 years on, and it's exactly the same ceremony.


https://youtu.be/t9yiG3EUz_A

Think hibs will win the Scottish the year after both funerals

[Hibernia&Alba]

Think hibs will win the Scottish the year after both funerals

In that case, God Save The King :greengrin

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.channel4.com/news/care-home-residents-in-hamilton-watch-queens-funeral


Well done the old folks. Watch it to the end 😂🏴*☠️🦜

[CropleyWasGod]

In that case, God Save The King :greengrin

...and hope he lasts a year

Etc etc 😁

[heretoday]

Well put.

I thought it was stunning from start to finish. I was a bit sceptical about the need for a second service at Windsor but after the spectacular grandeur of Westminster it turned out to be a more poignant affair and rounded the day off beautifully. The Queen's piper playing that solo as the coffin was lowered was very emotional.

So it was. The sound of the pipes was stirring throughout the day in fact.
Strange how we can put on a show like that while the whole country is in a big mess. Could it be because the government had no hand in organising it?

[hibsbollah]

The pipes were nothing in comparison to the impressive work under pressure by the bishop who, having dropped a piece of paper which landed right in camera shot of the coffin, 5 mins later had managed to retrieve it out of shot.

[Kato]

Looks like that is Lizzie's final act then. I had various new channels streaming in the background while working and there have been a few decent documentaries on her reign.

Stripping away the politics of it all it seems that as a human being she was smart, funny and no-ones fool. For the most part, never put a foot wrong in a strange goldfish bowl existence. She loved foreign places and foreign people, especially France.

She embraced change and modernity at a time when the country was full of optimism.

She sneaked messages to Nelson Mandela when he was in stardy which brought him hope then validated his time as leader of South Africa with a state visit, which he called the high-water mark of his career. Her, her husband and her son all worked with various environmental and agricultural charities and institutions knowing the climate change was a danger.

She never seemed to flaunt her station and was gregarious enough to have a laugh with anyone she met.

Tomorrow we are back to having our politicians front and centre in the news. None of those currently in charge have any of her virtues either as values or aims, they are obviously quite the opposite. Setting her as a bench mark for the countrys outook while having such small hearted, sneaky, hate filled people running it is going to stand out a mile.

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[Hibernia&Alba]

The pipes were nothing in comparison to the impressive work under pressure by the bishop who, having dropped a piece of paper which landed right in camera shot of the coffin, 5 mins later had managed to retrieve it out of shot.

Aye, but the Archbishop of Westminster, Cardinal Nichols, gave a wee speech. Staunch TV sets across Scotland and Northern Ireland were destroyed at that moment :greengrin :lolrangers:

[Glory Lurker]

Looks like that is Lizzie's final act then. I had various new channels streaming in the background while working and there have been a few decent documentaries on her reign.

Stripping away the politics of it all it seems that as a human being she was smart, funny and no-ones fool. For the most part, never put a foot wrong in a strange goldfish bowl existence. She loved foreign places and foreign people, especially France.

She embraced change and modernity at a time when the country was full of optimism.

She sneaked messages to Nelson Mandela when he was in stardy which brought him hope then validated his time as leader of South Africa with a state visit, which he called the high-water mark of his career. Her, her husband and her son all worked with various environmental and agricultural charities and institutions knowing the climate change was a danger.

She never seemed to flaunt her station and was gregarious enough to have a laugh with anyone she met.

Tomorrow we are back to having our politicians front and centre in the news. None of those currently in charge have any of her virtues either as values or aims, they are obviously quite the opposite. Setting her as a bench mark for the countrys outook while having such small hearted, sneaky, hate filled people running it is going to stand out a mile.

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It's not about the person, it's about the system.

[Glory Lurker]

So it was. The sound of the pipes was stirring throughout the day in fact.
Strange how we can put on a show like that while the whole country is in a big mess. Could it be because the government had no hand in organising it?

Because money is no object in this exercise?

[overdrive]

Same gun carriage for the funeral, I think. It was mentioned in commentary that Victoria's funeral was the first time it was used.

The fact soldier were carrying it comes from an incident from Victoria’s funeral. It was to be pulled by horses but something broke meaning a soldier had to volunteer to pull it in place of the horse

[Hibernia&Alba]

Looks like that is Lizzie's final act then. I had various new channels streaming in the background while working and there have been a few decent documentaries on her reign.

Stripping away the politics of it all it seems that as a human being she was smart, funny and no-ones fool. For the most part, never put a foot wrong in a strange goldfish bowl existence. She loved foreign places and foreign people, especially France.

She embraced change and modernity at a time when the country was full of optimism.

She sneaked messages to Nelson Mandela when he was in stardy which brought him hope then validated his time as leader of South Africa with a state visit, which he called the high-water mark of his career. Her, her husband and her son all worked with various environmental and agricultural charities and institutions knowing the climate change was a danger.

She never seemed to flaunt her station and was gregarious enough to have a laugh with anyone she met.

Tomorrow we are back to having our politicians front and centre in the news. None of those currently in charge have any of her virtues either as values or aims, they are obviously quite the opposite. Setting her as a bench mark for the countrys outook while having such small hearted, sneaky, hate filled people running it is going to stand out a mile.

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I agree with you, well said. She seemed a genuinely nice old girl who wanted the best for everyone. She had a genuine Christian faith which instilled humility, despite her rank. Personally, I think it's the perfect moment to bring the monarchy to a close, but, of course, that isn't happening.

[hibsbollah]

Looks like that is Lizzie's final act then. I had various new channels streaming in the background while working and there have been a few decent documentaries on her reign.

Stripping away the politics of it all it seems that as a human being she was smart, funny and no-ones fool. For the most part, never put a foot wrong in a strange goldfish bowl existence. She loved foreign places and foreign people, especially France.

She embraced change and modernity at a time when the country was full of optimism.

She sneaked messages to Nelson Mandela when he was in stardy which brought him hope then validated his time as leader of South Africa with a state visit, which he called the high-water mark of his career. Her, her husband and her son all worked with various environmental and agricultural charities and institutions knowing the climate change was a danger.

She never seemed to flaunt her station and was gregarious enough to have a laugh with anyone she met.

Tomorrow we are back to having our politicians front and centre in the news. None of those currently in charge have any of her virtues either as values or aims, they are obviously quite the opposite. Setting her as a bench mark for the countrys outook while having such small hearted, sneaky, hate filled people running it is going to stand out a mile.

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Aye, nice post.

[Bishop Hibee]

I seem to be in a minority but the Queen, as an individual, meant little to me. Even her conservative Christianity is at odds with the radical Christianity I admire and aspire to. As for what she symbolised, it never changed my 100% Republican views.

If Charles died tomorrow and we were forced to go through this charade again, I’d be out in the streets protesting along, I suspect, with many others.

[Kato]

It's not about the person, it's about the system.That's why I said "stripping of the politics away".

With the politics in its a weird, pompous, liliputian institution that upholds a class system that keeps people down. If you are going to princes then you need paupers as part of the pageantry. There is no shortage of paupers at the moment. And some of them, strangely, like it that way.

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[CyberSauzee]

I seem to be in a minority but the Queen, as an individual, meant little to me. Even her conservative Christianity is at odds with the radical Christianity I admire and aspire to. As for what she symbolised, it never changed my 100% Republican views.

If Charles died tomorrow and we were forced to go through this charade again, I’d be out in the streets protesting along, I suspect, with many others.

She meant nothing to lots of us. She was in an extremely privileged, inherited position, with all the trappings of unimaginable wealth that goes with it.

I just turned on BBC and the news is still going, caught some idiot getting interviewed saying she did so much not just for Britain but for the world. Exactly what did she do? Can anyone give me measurable, tangible benefits that she gave? Benefits for Britain will be fine, but if you want a bit of hyperbole, tell me how she benefited the world? Nothing subjective, I want hard facts please.

[Glory Lurker]

That's why I said "stripping of the politics away".

With the politics in its a weird, pompous, liliputian institution that upholds a class system that keeps people down. If you are going to princes then you need paupers as part of the pageantry. There is no shortage of paupers at the moment. And some of them, strangely, like it that way.

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Yes she might very well have been a nice person. I've no idea. Even if she was it is irrelevant in the bigger picture of the reinforcement of the state, because that is happening whether we like it or not, and it doesn't care about the decency of the past or future monarch because it's all about protecting the system.

I don't imagine we are disagreeing.

[Col2]

I take all the politicians down south will now get back to work tomorrow given they has 2 months break already over the summer and party conference on horizon?

The leader of the house should be getting them all in tomorrow to deal with the endless list of issues.

[grunt]

Anyone know what Kwarteng was finding so funny during the funeral?

[Kato]

Yes she might very well have been a nice person. I've no idea. Even if she was it is irrelevant in the bigger picture of the reinforcement of the state, because that is happening whether we like it or not, and it doesn't care about the decency of the past or future monarch because it's all about protecting the system.

I don't imagine we are disagreeing.No, not at all. I was just pointing out that she held values that seem, in today's parlance, woke. If we had government which were guided by her values the country would be in a way better place. Instead we have small-minded, self-interested, petty theives in charge. Carving up whatever is left into shares they can buy on their market, whilst nailing the poor even further.

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[Hibernia&Alba]

She meant nothing to lots of us. She was in an extremely privileged, inherited position, with all the trappings of unimaginable wealth that goes with it.

I just turned on BBC and the news is still going, caught some idiot getting interviewed saying she did so much not just for Britain but for the world. Exactly what did she do? Can anyone give me measurable, tangible benefits that she gave? Benefits for Britain will be fine, but if you want a bit of hyperbole, tell me how she benefited the world? Nothing subjective, I want hard facts please.

Correct, I had no affection for the queen in a meaningful way; I never met her. She always seemed nice enough and a genuine person, but so are many folk, and I have never been a monarchist. I'm sorry she has finally gone, in the sense she was a good old girl and it's certainly the end of an era - she was a constant presence in the lives of most of us - but I haven't experienced proper sadness, let alone grief. It's a shame when somebody who spanned so much history leaves the stage, but I would now prefer to end the nonsense of monarchy and other titles. The world has changed so much since 1952, as has Britain, and I think it's an appropriate moment to move on, but that's just my view.

[Kato]

Anyone know what Kwarteng was finding so funny during the funeral?Maybe he got news of some people on dinghy drowning or something. That seems to be the measure of them.

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[Hibernia&Alba]

Maybe he got news of some people on dinghy drowning or something. That seems to be the measure of them.

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Or perhaps he was told an estimate of how many people will die of cold this winter? :dunno:

[He's here!]

I'm not sure whether you are Hew Edwards or Lindsey Hoyle :wink:

I thought Kirsty Young stole the show in the emotion stakes with her tearful conclusion to the live coverage :-)

[CyberSauzee]

Correct, I had no affection for the queen in a meaningful way; I never met her. She always seemed nice enough and a genuine person, but so are many folk, and I have never been a monarchist. I'm sorry she has finally gone, in the sense she was a good old girl and it's certainly the end of an era - she was a constant presence in the lives of most of us - but I haven't experienced proper sadness, let alone grief. It's a shame when somebody who spanned so much history leaves the stage, but I would now prefer to end the nonsense of monarchy and other titles. The world has changed so much since 1952, as has Britain, and I think it's an appropriate moment to move on, but that's just my view.

Hear, hear. Exactly how I feel. Shame someone has passed, but let's have a meritocratic society where my kids can aspire to lead the country if they want.

[Glory Lurker]

I thought Kirsty Young stole the show in the emotion stakes with her tearful conclusion to the live coverage :-)

Why was she crying?

[JimBHibees]

Looks like that is Lizzie's final act then. I had various new channels streaming in the background while working and there have been a few decent documentaries on her reign.

Stripping away the politics of it all it seems that as a human being she was smart, funny and no-ones fool. For the most part, never put a foot wrong in a strange goldfish bowl existence. She loved foreign places and foreign people, especially France.

She embraced change and modernity at a time when the country was full of optimism.

She sneaked messages to Nelson Mandela when he was in stardy which brought him hope then validated his time as leader of South Africa with a state visit, which he called the high-water mark of his career. Her, her husband and her son all worked with various environmental and agricultural charities and institutions knowing the climate change was a danger.

She never seemed to flaunt her station and was gregarious enough to have a laugh with anyone she met.

Tomorrow we are back to having our politicians front and centre in the news. None of those currently in charge have any of her virtues either as values or aims, they are obviously quite the opposite. Setting her as a bench mark for the countrys outook while having such small hearted, sneaky, hate filled people running it is going to stand out a mile.

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Fair and excellent oost

[Jones28]

Looks like that is Lizzie's final act then. I had various new channels streaming in the background while working and there have been a few decent documentaries on her reign.

Stripping away the politics of it all it seems that as a human being she was smart, funny and no-ones fool. For the most part, never put a foot wrong in a strange goldfish bowl existence. She loved foreign places and foreign people, especially France.

She embraced change and modernity at a time when the country was full of optimism.

She sneaked messages to Nelson Mandela when he was in stardy which brought him hope then validated his time as leader of South Africa with a state visit, which he called the high-water mark of his career. Her, her husband and her son all worked with various environmental and agricultural charities and institutions knowing the climate change was a danger.

She never seemed to flaunt her station and was gregarious enough to have a laugh with anyone she met.

Tomorrow we are back to having our politicians front and centre in the news. None of those currently in charge have any of her virtues either as values or aims, they are obviously quite the opposite. Setting her as a bench mark for the countrys outook while having such small hearted, sneaky, hate filled people running it is going to stand out a mile.

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Great post, especially the contrast with the politicians who will be hogging the headlines within the week.

[ronaldo7]

I didn't watch all of the ceremony yesterday but just caught a bit on the news this morning of the pipes playing, hush hush. A bit surprised they'd play a tune which followed the experience of crofters being evicted during the clearances, and forced from their homes.

Those little niceties which won't be spoken about, although sometimes used by others as a song about home.

[Stairway 2 7]

I didn't watch all of the ceremony yesterday but just caught a bit on the news this morning of the pipes playing, hush hush. A bit surprised they'd play a tune which followed the experience of crofters being evicted during the clearances, and forced from their homes.

Those little niceties which won't be spoken about, although sometimes used by others as a song about home.

The crofting lyrics are from the modern addition of an old tune.

Something magical about a lone piper, always the best part of the tattoo

[ronaldo7]

The crofting lyrics are from the modern addition of an old tune.

Something magical about a lone piper, always the best part of the tattoo

A positive spin would be she was listening to the lyrics mentioning peace and of freedom, and changed her mind.

[He's here!]

You're going to have to go cold turkey from tomorrow.

How will you cope. 😂

I see Holyrood is resuming business today with tributes to the Queen. I could always tune in to that ;-)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-62961662

[Stairway 2 7]

I see Holyrood is resuming business today with tributes to the Queen. I could always tune in to that ;-)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-62961662

No rush ha

"Holyrood sittings were suspended after the death of the monarch, and party leaders attended her funeral on Monday.

A special session on Tuesday will allow backbench MSPs to share their thoughts and reflections.

Proceedings are expected to return to normal later in the week, with the government working on measures to tackle the cost of living crisis.

A new MSP is also due to be sworn in, and will become the first member to formally swear allegiance to King Charles"

[Pretty Boy]

I must have missed this at the time (or maybe it went unreported by much of the press) but there is no way the Queens choice of outfit at the opening of parliament immediately post the Brexit vote was a coincidence:

https://www.google.com/search?q=queen+brexit&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwik_rSs_aL6AhXGS0EAHcieAKIQ_AUoAnoECAEQB A&biw=1920&bih=969&dpr=1#imgrc=BxGLMAaQk-UYVM

'Doing politics' and then some.

[Stairway 2 7]

I must have missed this at the time (or maybe it went unreported by much of the press) but there is no way the Queens choice of outfit at the opening of parliament immediately post the Brexit vote was a coincidence:

https://www.google.com/search?q=queen+brexit&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwik_rSs_aL6AhXGS0EAHcieAKIQ_AUoAnoECAEQB A&biw=1920&bih=969&dpr=1#imgrc=BxGLMAaQk-UYVM

'Doing politics' and then some.

Many have said she was quite left wing and famously despised Thatcher. How could she be left, if she was so keen to keep her personal ridiculous wealth.

Some tory spiv on the radio the other day in a panic that Charles might put his nose in, as his only political passion is green policy and environmental issues.

[DH1875]

Why was she crying?

Maybe she was upset.

[CapitalGreen]

Maybe she was upset.

She realised all the overtime pay she was getting would be coming to an end.

[Kato]

I must have missed this at the time (or maybe it went unreported by much of the press) but there is no way the Queens choice of outfit at the opening of parliament immediately post the Brexit vote was a coincidence:

https://www.google.com/search?q=queen+brexit&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwik_rSs_aL6AhXGS0EAHcieAKIQ_AUoAnoECAEQB A&biw=1920&bih=969&dpr=1#imgrc=BxGLMAaQk-UYVM

'Doing politics' and then some.Of course it was deliberate. She's wasn't a racist or a criminal, neither did she take any bribes from Russia whose aim was to break up the EU. She was alsi totally on board with the UK trading equally with our closest neighbours.

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[The Modfather]

Many have said she was quite left wing and famously despised Thatcher. How could she be left, if she was so keen to keep her personal ridiculous wealth.

Some tory spiv on the radio the other day in a panic that Charles might put his nose in, as his only political passion is green policy and environmental issues.

Must be nice to be left wing when you’ve got tens of millions in the bank and your crown estate will get topped upped by taxpayers when, heaven forbid, profits were to drop. Especially after a pandemic and during a cost of living crisis.