Operation London bridge

[Kato]

But the monarch is constitutionally bound to be apolitical. To get involved in party politics would create a constitutional crisis.As I said she chose to say nothing.

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[lapsedhibee]

I think they gave up playing

If it's because they were too upset at the news, must be a strong case for a money spinning replay. Has Leslie Deans said anything yet?

[Kato]

Has Leslie Deans said anything yet?


"Boooooo".


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[Jones28]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1567942677945106433?t=8gGJyhfXwEDfjLrSzlBXJw&s=19
Club Tweet

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Just turn the ****ing comments off Hibs

[Hibernia&Alba]

Just turn the ****ing comments off Hibs

I don't do Twitter etc, what are the comments?

[Hibernia&Alba]

Oh man :lolrangers:

https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/with-the-death-of-the-queen-it-will-be-very-different-at-rangers.219970/

[Jones28]

I don't do Twitter etc, what are the comments?

If you click on the link you’ll see a sample. It doesn’t make for good reading.

[xyz23jc]

As I said she chose to say nothing.

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What about 'purring' when Cameron gave her the news back in the day...? :greengrin

[Zambernardi1875]

If you click on the link you’ll see a sample. It doesn’t make for good reading.

im so offended by something i chose to read, i must now log on hibs net and tell everyone about how offended i am.

[Bristolhibby]

King Charles the Third

Can I now say I’m off for a King Charles?

J

[Jones28]

im so offended by something i chose to read, i must now log on hibs net and tell everyone about how offended i am.

Yea that’s me, completely offended.

Oh the humanity.

**** off.

[Hibernia&Alba]

What about 'purring' when Cameron gave her the news back in the day...? :greengrin

To be fair, she kept completely out of the debate, though she certainly wanted Scotland to stay in the UK.

[Pretty Boy]

I'm just amazed how many people in the UK still only have the choice of 3 TV channels, I would have though that impossible in this day and age.

So many on social media 'can't escape' the coverage apparently. I watched the news as it broke then watched a couple of episodes of the LOTR sequels. I may have missed it but Amazon didn't appear to dub in comment from Galdriel and Elrond announcing the news at 15 minute intervals. Call me a cynic but I think a lot of people might be choosing not to 'escape' the coverage.

[wookie70]

As much as this news was expected it's still the magnitude of it all that I find quite hard to fully take in.

The amount of things she has overseen and changes which have taken place in the nation and in the world during her reign is quite remarkable.

Whether you're a staunch Royalist or a fierce Republican I think most people will recognise that today is a significant day in history.

She reigned during a catastrophic decline in our Nation that's for sure. One of the few, if not only, Establishment figures who has been through the terminal decline of this group of Nations. She did a very good job of being a vanilla figurehead but it really is time for UK citizens to stop cap doffing, break the chains of inbuilt servitude and destroy the institutions that guarantee an unfair advantage.

I have nothing against the woman at all and I dare say she was so young she really had no choice in what job she did. I dearly hope the monarchy crumbles in the very near future and it marks the start of a Britain that recognises citizens as equals and starts to drive class and privilege from our society. What will the new King do without Jimmy Saville to advise him

[Sir David Gray]

Depends on how you view history. Is it the story of the people or is it a list of privileged people being born and dieing?

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As much as I'm not a monarchist, I can look beyond the privileged life that she had and realise that to be Head of State for 70 years is quite remarkable and something that none of us will ever see again.

Today is a significant end of an era in the history of the UK no matter how you view the monarchy as an institution.

Throughout most people's lives a lot of things will have changed over the years but if you are younger than 70 years old you won't have had any other Head of State except Queen Elizabeth II. For me it's an extraordinary part of our history that we'll never see again.

[James310]

https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/hermajestythequeen

Edinburgh Council getting ready. The old town will be locked down for days I imagine.

[hibsbollah]

Jeremy Corbyn: My thoughts are with the Queen’s family as they come to terms with their personal loss, as well as those here and around the world who will mourn her death.

I enjoyed discussing our families, gardens and jam-making with her.

May she rest in peace.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/hermajestythequeen

Edinburgh Council getting ready. The old town will be locked down for days I imagine.

Going to be the biggest event in Edinburgh in decades, certainly this age of 24 hour news world wide

[Hibernia&Alba]

She reigned during a catastrophic decline in our Nation that's for sure. One of the few, if not only, Establishment figures who has been through the terminal decline of this group of Nations. She did a very good job of being a vanilla figurehead but it really is time for UK citizens to stop cap doffing, break the chains of inbuilt servitude and destroy the institutions that guarantee an unfair advantage.

I have nothing against the woman at all and I dare say she was so young she really had no choice in what job she did. I dearly hope the monarchy crumbles in the very near future and it marks the start of a Britain that recognises citizens as equals and starts to drive class and privilege from our society. What will the new King do without Jimmy Saville to advise him

I agree with much of that. 2022 is such a different world and country from 1952. I think it's the perfect opportunity for a new direction of modernity, devoid of all the class riddled nonsense we have had for centuries.

[Smartie]

To be fair, she kept completely out of the debate, though she certainly wanted Scotland to stay in the UK.

I respected her for that and thought it was very crass and careless from Cameron to effectively betray her trust.

[The Modfather]

I'm just amazed how many people in the UK still only have the choice of 3 TV channels, I would have though that impossible in this day and age.

So many on social media 'can't escape' the coverage apparently. I watched the news as it broke then watched a couple of episodes of the LOTR sequels. I may have missed it but Amazon didn't appear to dub in comment from Galdriel and Elrond announcing the news at 15 minute intervals. Call me a cynic but I think a lot of people might be choosing not to 'escape' the coverage.

To be fair, I watched one of the sky film channels earlier and regularly a bar would appear on the bottom of the screen saying to check sky news for the latest on an event. Film 4 had a permanent bar saying similar. Was a minor irritation but needlessly over the top IMO.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/LouiseScottITV/status/1567972892989882368

There’s a continuous line of people outside the gates of Holyroodhouse tonight.
Heavy rain and darkness hasn’t stopped them; they want to pay their respects to the Queen.
@itvnews

[Hibernia&Alba]

https://mobile.twitter.com/LouiseScottITV/status/1567972892989882368

There’s a continuous line of people outside the gates of Holyroodhouse tonight.
Heavy rain and darkness hasn’t stopped them; they want to pay their respects to the Queen.
@itvnews

Is her body now there, or is she still at Balmoral?

[Stairway 2 7]

Is her body now there, or is she still at Balmoral?

Balmoral which makes it dafter

[Stairway 2 7]

Not sure if accurate but in the spectator

There will be no parliamentary business tomorrow or next week. The Queen’s coffin will lie in repose at Holyrood Palace in Edinburgh followed by a service of reception at St Giles’ Cathedral then taken to London, to be met by the Prime Minister. The lying-in-state will take place in Westminster Hall on Wednesday 14 September, where the public will be able to pay their respects until Saturday 17 September. The state funeral will be held the next day at Westminster Abbey and the burial will take place in Windsor later that day

[EH6 Hibby]

Just seen a comment from a Rangers fan saying “we owe her so much” and some one has commented &47m I believe.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Just seen a comment from a Rangers fan saying “we owe her so much” and some one has commented &47m I believe.

:hilarious

:top marks


:lolrangers:

[21.05.2016]

End of an era. Huge historical moment today and will go down as one of the biggest "where were you when you heard" moments.

I'm not a Royalist at all, i don't believe the Monarchy has a place in modern society but I must admit i did feel a bit sad towards todays news. She has been such a constant in all our lives and overseen so much. She got thrown into the role so young, a role she was never really meant to do and I think she has done exceptionally well.

Whatever your political views please try keep it respectful. End of the day she is still a human being who has left a family behind.

[Sir David Gray]

End of an era. Huge historical moment today and will go down as one of the biggest "where were you when you heard" moments.

I'm not a Royalist at all, i don't believe the Monarchy has a place in modern society but I must admit i did feel a bit sad towards todays news. She has been such a constant in all our lives and overseen so much. She got thrown into the role so young, a role she was never really meant to do and I think she has done exceptionally well.

Whatever your political views please try keep it respectful. End of the day she is still a human being who has left a family behind.

Pretty much agree with every word of this.

[marinello59]

End of an era. Huge historical moment today and will go down as one of the biggest "where were you when you heard" moments.

I'm not a Royalist at all, i don't believe the Monarchy has a place in modern society but I must admit i did feel a bit sad towards todays news. She has been such a constant in all our lives and overseen so much. She got thrown into the role so young, a role she was never really meant to do and I think she has done exceptionally well.

Whatever your political views please try keep it respectful. End of the day she is still a human being who has left a family behind.

Well said.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Pretty much agree with every word of this.

Same here. It's possible to be humane and generous towards all who did their best to avoid harm to others.

[wookie70]

https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/hermajestythequeen

Edinburgh Council getting ready. The old town will be locked down for days I imagine.

My daughter is on a course that is very important for her but has just been told it is cancelled as Waverley Court is being used.

I can't get my head round why it is such a big deal and the extent to which serfdom and the class system is embedded in the UK Psyche is now being demonstrated with Unions calling off strikes. I know we are striking because our members can't feed or keep their children warm but we will abandon our efforts to change that as someone who was given a job at birth has died. It is utterly bizarre how deep cap doffing is in UK citizens.

[James310]

My daughter is on a course that is very important for her but has just been told it is cancelled as Waverley Court is being used.

I can't get my head round why it is such a big deal and the extent to which serfdom and the class system is embedded in the UK Psyche is now being demonstrated with Unions calling off strikes. I know we are striking because our members can't feed or keep their children warm but we will abandon our efforts to change that as someone who was given a job at birth has died. It is utterly bizarre how deep cap doffing is in UK citizens.

People just see it differently to you that's all. People might think it's bizarre to think the way you do, if we all thought the same the world would be a boring place.

[Hibernia&Alba]

My daughter is on a course that is very important for her but has just been told it is cancelled as Waverley Court is being used.

I can't get my head round why it is such a big deal and the extent to which serfdom and the class system is embedded in the UK Psyche is now being demonstrated with Unions calling off strikes. I know we are striking because our members can't feed or keep their children warm but we will abandon our efforts to change that as someone who was given a job at birth has died. It is utterly bizarre how deep cap doffing is in UK citizens.

Yes, the British class system must go, hence we need an end of monarchy amongst many other changes. We can be both respectful and demand radical change at the same time. We need only show humanity and compassion for each other: this is the system we grew up in, this is the system we want.....

[wookie70]

People just see it differently to you that's all. People might think it's bizarre to think the way you do, if we all thought the same the world would be a boring place.

I get that but I can't see why they think like that. There appears to be no reason for their strong feelings for the Queen or monarchy. Without trying to open another can of worms it is like a cult or religion to me. It doesn't seem to make sense, no-one can really explain it but it seems to draw huge numbers in

[Steven79]

I get that but I can't see why they think like that. There appears to be no reason for their strong feelings for the Queen or monarchy. Without trying to open another can of worms it is like a cult or religion to me. It doesn't seem to make sense, no-one can really explain it but it seems to draw huge numbers inPeople are brainwashed with this nonsense and it's definitely cult like.

You only have to see the groups outside Buckingham Palace to see that.

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[camthebam]

People are brainwashed with this nonsense and it's definitely cult like.

You only have to see the groups outside Buckingham Palace to see that.

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I can only see it as madness being obsessed with the royal family. They’re not hugely intelligent, I’ve never heard them say anything clever. They’re anodyne at best, they make no major decisions, they do **** all of importance.

i’ve nowt against them but some of their sycophants are bordeline fruitcases. Tug the forelock freaks? I think not.

[Hibbyradge]

End of an era. Huge historical moment today and will go down as one of the biggest "where were you when you heard" moments.

I'm not a Royalist at all, i don't believe the Monarchy has a place in modern society but I must admit i did feel a bit sad towards todays news. She has been such a constant in all our lives and overseen so much. She got thrown into the role so young, a role she was never really meant to do and I think she has done exceptionally well.

Whatever your political views please try keep it respectful. End of the day she is still a human being who has left a family behind.

I agree with most of that, but I don't think it came as a shock so I might not remember where I was on hearing the news.

[Bristolhibby]

My daughter is on a course that is very important for her but has just been told it is cancelled as Waverley Court is being used.

I can't get my head round why it is such a big deal and the extent to which serfdom and the class system is embedded in the UK Psyche is now being demonstrated with Unions calling off strikes. I know we are striking because our members can't feed or keep their children warm but we will abandon our efforts to change that as someone who was given a job at birth has died. It is utterly bizarre how deep cap doffing is in UK citizens.

It’s a Public Relations thing for the RMT. Likely to be striking over the funeral weekend as people want to get to London to pay their respects. (Including a lot of RMT members no doubt). Not good optics to go on strike. Remember the RMT want to keep the public on their side. Which they have done successfully so far.

I agree, it’s madness, but there it is.

J

[Stairway 2 7]

It’s a Public Relations thing for the RMT. Likely to be striking over the funeral weekend as people want to get to London to pay their respects. (Including a lot of RMT members no doubt). Not good optics to go on strike. Remember the RMT want to keep the public on their side. Which they have done successfully so far.

I agree, it’s madness, but there it is.

J
It would be ****ing bafoonary for the unions to strike on the funeral week. You need public opinion which they all have just now. As you say thousands of people will want to travel to London or edin also. It isn't playing smart at all, the unions job is to get rises not disruption for the sake of it. As there wouldn't be any meaningful talks taking place next week then that's all it would be.

[Stairway 2 7]

The minutes silence...at tyncastle last night went well ha. Going to be mayhem at stadiums, should do applause, then people can chose to ignore

https://mobile.twitter.com/FitbaPatter/status/1567962462346944514

[Since90+2]

Not sure if accurate but in the spectator

There will be no parliamentary business tomorrow or next week. The Queen’s coffin will lie in repose at Holyrood Palace in Edinburgh followed by a service of reception at St Giles’ Cathedral then taken to London, to be met by the Prime Minister. The lying-in-state will take place in Westminster Hall on Wednesday 14 September, where the public will be able to pay their respects until Saturday 17 September. The state funeral will be held the next day at Westminster Abbey and the burial will take place in Windsor later that day

Great - so no Parliamentary business for 6 days whilst the country is going through a cost of living crisis never seen in modern times.

[Colr]

Will there be games on

The whole Rangers team will be too upset to play.

[Colr]

Is her body now there, or is she still at Balmoral?

Could we hold it hostage?

[Speedy]

Couldn't believe my ears when I heard Clive Myrie say this on BBC News earlier:

"The energy bills price crisis is of course insignificant now given the gravity of the situation we seem to be experiencing with Her Majesty”

Should be sacked for that

[JimBHibees]

End of an era. Huge historical moment today and will go down as one of the biggest "where were you when you heard" moments.

I'm not a Royalist at all, i don't believe the Monarchy has a place in modern society but I must admit i did feel a bit sad towards todays news. She has been such a constant in all our lives and overseen so much. She got thrown into the role so young, a role she was never really meant to do and I think she has done exceptionally well.

Whatever your political views please try keep it respectful. End of the day she is still a human being who has left a family behind.

Good post. A wee bit of respect and decency isnt too difficult to ask for.

[Crunchie]

End of an era. Huge historical moment today and will go down as one of the biggest "where were you when you heard" moments.

I'm not a Royalist at all, i don't believe the Monarchy has a place in modern society but I must admit i did feel a bit sad towards todays news. She has been such a constant in all our lives and overseen so much. She got thrown into the role so young, a role she was never really meant to do and I think she has done exceptionally well.

Whatever your political views please try keep it respectful. End of the day she is still a human being who has left a family behind.
Me and the wife echo every word of this :top marks

[Stairway 2 7]

Could we hold it hostage?

Bit of a want about you my lad

[Scorrie]

End of an era. Huge historical moment today and will go down as one of the biggest "where were you when you heard" moments.

I'm not a Royalist at all, i don't believe the Monarchy has a place in modern society but I must admit i did feel a bit sad towards todays news. She has been such a constant in all our lives and overseen so much. She got thrown into the role so young, a role she was never really meant to do and I think she has done exceptionally well.

Whatever your political views please try keep it respectful. End of the day she is still a human being who has left a family behind.

Sums it up well for me

[He's here!]

The minutes silence...at tyncastle last night went well ha. Going to be mayhem at stadiums, should do applause, then people can chose to ignore

https://mobile.twitter.com/FitbaPatter/status/1567962462346944514

Impeccably observed at the games involving English clubs ladt night.

If fixtures are off for the next couple of weeks it won't be an issue.

[He's here!]

It would be ****ing bafoonary for the unions to strike on the funeral week. You need public opinion which they all have just now. As you say thousands of people will want to travel to London or edin also. It isn't playing smart at all, the unions job is to get rises not disruption for the sake of it. As there wouldn't be any meaningful talks taking place next week then that's all it would be.

Strikes have been called off for now.

[He's here!]

End of an era. Huge historical moment today and will go down as one of the biggest "where were you when you heard" moments.

I'm not a Royalist at all, i don't believe the Monarchy has a place in modern society but I must admit i did feel a bit sad towards todays news. She has been such a constant in all our lives and overseen so much. She got thrown into the role so young, a role she was never really meant to do and I think she has done exceptionally well.

Whatever your political views please try keep it respectful. End of the day she is still a human being who has left a family behind.

That's a good post.

[bigwheel]

End of an era. Huge historical moment today and will go down as one of the biggest "where were you when you heard" moments.

I'm not a Royalist at all, i don't believe the Monarchy has a place in modern society but I must admit i did feel a bit sad towards todays news. She has been such a constant in all our lives and overseen so much. She got thrown into the role so young, a role she was never really meant to do and I think she has done exceptionally well.

Whatever your political views please try keep it respectful. End of the day she is still a human being who has left a family behind.

Perfect summary. Fully agree

[lapsedhibee]

She got thrown into the role so young, a role she was never really meant to do and I think she has done exceptionally well.


Did Princess Elizabeth have an elder sibling who died unexpectedly around 1950, or were the rules of succession changed about then? Genuinely don't know.

[stantonhibby]

Did Princess Elizabeth have an elder sibling who died unexpectedly around 1950, or were the rules of succession changed about then? Genuinely don't know.

Would imagine he means her father only became King due to his brothers abdication, which obv changed the line of succession.

[James310]

Did Princess Elizabeth have an elder sibling who died unexpectedly around 1950, or were the rules of succession changed about then? Genuinely don't know.

Her Uncle abdicated meaning his brother, the Queens father became King. So she was never really meant to be Queen.

I know many on here are not fans of the Royal family but the series The Crown on Netflix is superb, it's not only about the Royals but a look back on history over the last 75 years.

[danhibees1875]

Did Princess Elizabeth have an elder sibling who died unexpectedly around 1950, or were the rules of succession changed about then? Genuinely don't know.

Her dad only became king because his brother abdicated. She wouldn't have been in line otherwise. That's what the radio said yesterday anyway. :greengrin

[lapsedhibee]

Would imagine he means her father only became King due to his brothers abdication, which obv changed the line of succession.


Her Uncle abdicated meaning his brother, the Queens father became King. So she was never really meant to be Queen.



Her dad only became king because his brother abdicated. She wouldn't have been in line otherwise. That's what the radio said yesterday anyway. :greengrin

Thanks. Had forgotten about that.

Next question for you royal watchers. Victoria, Victorian; Edward, Edwardian; George, Georgian; Elizabeth, Elizabethan. What's the correct way to describe the current period? Does King Charles become the adjective? Charlesque would be a bit French-sounding.

[Crunchie]

That's a good post.
Yes, one of many classy posts.

[stantonhibby]

Thanks. Had forgotten about that.

Next question for you royal watchers. Victoria, Victorian; Edward, Edwardian; George, Georgian; Elizabeth, Elizabethan. What's the correct way to describe the current period? :dunno:

Think they've called it the 2nd Elizabethan period. Took them a while to come up with that!

[Stairway 2 7]

Thanks. Had forgotten about that.

Next question for you royal watchers. Victoria, Victorian; Edward, Edwardian; George, Georgian; Elizabeth, Elizabethan. What's the correct way to describe the current period? :dunno:

I heard someone say the second Elizabethan period, although **** knows

[lapsedhibee]

Think they've called it the 2nd Elizabethan period. Took them a while to come up with that!


I heard someone say the second Elizabethan period, although **** knows

That's the old regime. What about the new one?

[danhibees1875]

That's the old regime. What about the new one?

Charlatan period?

[lapsedhibee]

Charlatan period?

If he's a dog lover like his ma-mah, maybe Charlesatian?

[ronaldo7]

Thanks. Had forgotten about that.

Next question for you royal watchers. Victoria, Victorian; Edward, Edwardian; George, Georgian; Elizabeth, Elizabethan. What's the correct way to describe the current period? Does King Charles become the adjective? Charlesque would be a bit French-sounding.

I've heard it called the Caroleon era, which dates back to Charles II who ruled England from 1660-1685.

[lapsedhibee]

I've heard it called the Carolean era, which dates back to Charles II who ruled England from 1660-1685.

Oh good, more Latin. :aok:

[CropleyWasGod]

Think they've called it the 2nd Elizabethan period. Took them a while to come up with that!

It should, of course, be the 1st Elizabethan period if we're talking about the UK:cb

[ronaldo7]

Oh good, more Latin. :aok:

It also means Charlie is not Charles III of Scotland.

[CropleyWasGod]

It also means Charlie is not Charles III of Scotland.

You sure?

Charlie 1 and Charlie 2 came after the Union of the Crowns, no?

[Kato]

It also means Charlie is not Charles III of Scotland.He is. Elizabeth was the 1st of that name in Scotland, which is why some post boxes were blown up with "ERII" on them.

Charles will be the III of that name for both nations.

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[hibsbollah]

Princes St bus stops all plastered with large pictures of the Queens image within about 12 hours of the announcement.

Really interesting how these gears of formalised mourning (propaganda) click into motion. Are they paying advertising space I wonder?

[Hibs Class]

You sure?

Charlie 1 and Charlie 2 came after the Union of the Crowns, no?

Correct - Charles I followed James I & VI

[Speedy]

It should, of course, be the 1st Elizabethan period if we're talking about the UK:cb

Did anyone else notice Nicola Sturgeon make a point of saying Queen Elizabeth in her statement yesterday.

[ronaldo7]

He is. Elizabeth was the 1st of that name in Scotland, which is why some post boxes were blown up with "ERII" on them.

Charles will be the III of that name for both nations.

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I stand corrected. Thanks. 👍

[weecounty hibby]

Forced mourning is sickening. I’ve turned the radio off, every station playing maudlin music. I get it, head of state, queen for 70 years etc. but why are we all being forced to be seen to be sad. I’m not, she led a long privileged life and never once would have wondered where her next meal would come from or how to heat any of her multiple castles and palaces. Those who want to mourn should be allowed to but those of us who really don’t care that much should be allowed to just get in with life as normal. This peeve isn’t confined to this instance either.

[Stairway 2 7]

Forced mourning is sickening. I’ve turned the radio off, every station playing maudlin music. I get it, head of state, queen for 70 years etc. but why are we all being forced to be seen to be sad. I’m not, she led a long privileged life and never once would have wondered where her next meal would come from or how to heat any of her multiple castles and palaces. Those who want to mourn should be allowed to but those of us who really don’t care that much should be allowed to just get in with life as normal. This peeve isn’t confined to this instance either.
Your not put on netflix, don't go on threads about her death, go to the pentlands listen to an album. The same routine as I do if hearts win a cup.

[AugustaHibs]

Your not put on netflix, don't go on threads about her death, go to the pentlands listen to an album. The same routine as I do if hearts win a cup.

Cancelling sporting events etc though is a ****ing joke.

Go to work, but once that’s finished please have no enjoyment and mourn.

Kim Jong il pish

[Paulie Walnuts]

Cancelling sporting events etc though is a ****ing joke.

Go to work, but once that’s finished please have no enjoyment and mourn.

Kim Jong il pish

:agree:

An utter pisstake.

[Stairway 2 7]

Cancelling sporting events etc though is a ****ing joke.

Go to work, but once that’s finished please have no enjoyment and mourn.

Kim Jong il pish
Aye I'll be pretty much like the impoverished people of North Korea tonight, when I'm able to go online call my leader truss a ****, watch a series on netflix whilst ordering my takeaway after going to the pub

[Chorley Hibee]

:agree:

An utter pisstake.

In some ways I hope it inconveniences the **** out of everybody and everything as much as possible, and perhaps, just perhaps, more people might start seeing through the whole charade.

It's the 21st century FFS, not the middle ages.

[lapsedhibee]

Those who want to mourn should be allowed to but those of us who really don’t care that much should be allowed to just get in with life as normal.

Looks like plenty of time being allocated for mourning:

The King has declared that a period of official royal mourning will be observed from today and lasting until seven days after the Queen’s state funeral

I make that until 25 September, something like that?

Not compulsory for non-royals though.

[AugustaHibs]

Aye I'll be pretty much like the impoverished people of North Korea tonight, when I'm able to go online call my leader truss a ****, watch a series on netflix whilst ordering my takeaway after going to the pub

The country is wanting you to view the queen similarly to how north Koreans are forced to view their leader too though.

[Stairway 2 7]

The country is wanting you to view the queen similarly to how north Koreans are forced to view their leader too though.

Yeah but there is zero comparison as we won't get arrested if we say we don't like her or her boys a nonce. Monarchy is a joke and hopefully Charles is the last. But people getting worked up is just weird, go to the pub, stick a showaddywaddy album on it'll be over soon enough hopefully

[hibsbollah]

Aye I'll be pretty much like the impoverished people of North Korea tonight, when I'm able to go online call my leader truss a ****, watch a series on netflix whilst ordering my takeaway after going to the pub

Predictably pointless response. You know perfectly well he's talking about the propaganda at work, you are talking about the economic benefits of living in a rich country with access to resources and commodities.

[He's here!]

Her Uncle abdicated meaning his brother, the Queens father became King. So she was never really meant to be Queen.

I know many on here are not fans of the Royal family but the series The Crown on Netflix is superb, it's not only about the Royals but a look back on history over the last 75 years.

First two seasons of the Crown are especially excellent.

[Stairway 2 7]

Predictably pointless response. You know perfectly well he's talking about the propaganda at work, you are talking about the economic benefits of living in a rich country with access to resources and commodities.

Pish. I can write **** the king right here and his nonce brother. I have zero fear of getting sent to the work camps. I expect another pointless response from you in due course

[DH1875]

Impeccably observed at the games involving English clubs ladt night.

If fixtures are off for the next couple of weeks it won't be an issue.

Not at West Ham. Big section of the crowd sang GSTQ during the supposed silence.

[Spike Mandela]

Guidance issued by the government. No obligation to cancel sporting events although organisations may wish to reschedule on day of funeral.

That’s not to say individual organisations won’t take it into their own hands to ‘outrespect’ and ‘outgrieve’ each other.:rolleyes:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-demise-of-her-majesty-queen-elizabeth-ii-national-mourning-guidance

[hibsbollah]

Pish. I can write **** the king right here and his nonce brother. I have zero fear of getting sent to the work camps. I expect another pointless response from you in due course

Your inability to understand a range of complex issues on here, is matched only by your supreme conceit in imagining that you do. You are a cautionary tale for folk who can imagine they can get all their information from Twitter and still think that they sound like they know what they are talking about. You should get a hobby of some kind:aok:

[Stairway 2 7]

Guidance issued by the government. No obligation to cancel sporting events although organisations may wish to reschedule on day of funeral.

That’s not to say individual organisations won’t take it into their own hands to ‘outrespect’ and ‘outgrieve’ each other.:rolleyes:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-demise-of-her-majesty-queen-elizabeth-ii-national-mourning-guidance

That freedom of choice is just like North Korea. I'm up town cafes pubs shops open as normal, you'd probably never know

[James310]

Guidance issued by the government. No obligation to cancel sporting events although organisations may wish to reschedule on day of funeral.

That’s not to say individual organisations won’t take it into their own hands to ‘outrespect’ and ‘outgrieve’ each other.:rolleyes:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-demise-of-her-majesty-queen-elizabeth-ii-national-mourning-guidance

I think sports should continue, maybe anything planned for the day of her funeral should reconsider but I don't see why the game tomorrow should not go ahead.

[hibsbollah]

I think sports should continue, maybe anything planned for the day of her funeral should reconsider but I don't see why the game tomorrow should not go ahead.


From the Government guidance I think it'll be on, and possibly even next Saturday's but next Sundays will be off. A number of Royal parks and gardens will be open as well, so I'm not sure the football authorities will feel the need to go further than that.

[James310]

That freedom of choice is just like North Korea. I'm up town cafes pubs shops open as normal, you'd probably never know

Try Thailand, you would be arrested for saying anything offensive about the Royal family.

[Stairway 2 7]

Your inability to understand a range of complex issues on here, is matched only by your supreme conceit in imagining that you do. You are a cautionary tale for folk who can imagine they can get all their information from Twitter and still think that they sound like they know what they are talking about. You should get a hobby of some kind:aok:

You generally talk pish and get your only news from the Guardian. The only time i remember you was you argued for ages about the bucha massacre not happening. Put me on ignore or see me in the hibs club for a blether and a pint before the game

[Stairway 2 7]

Try Thailand, you would be arrested for saying anything offensive about the Royal family.

Thailand is unreal, pictures of him literally everywhere

[James310]

Another interesting little quip, no longer will lawyers like Joanna Cherry be Joanna Cherry QC, but Joanna Cherry KC.

[hibsbollah]

You generally talk pish and get your only news from the Guardian. The only time i remember you was you argued for ages about the bucha massacre not happening. Put me on ignore or see me in the hibs club for a blether and a pint before the game

No, I meet enough thick people in my daily grind thanks.

[James310]

No, I meet enough thick people in my daily grind thanks.

Bit harsh, it's hard on here to carry different opinions.

[hibsbollah]

Bit harsh, it's hard on here to carry different opinions.

You're right, he does make the occasional sensible comment. Suggesting putting him on ignore being one. I actually tire of reading anodyne twittery pish.

[Stairway 2 7]

Bit harsh, it's hard on here to carry different opinions.

Group think in an echo chamber. As I said he can fire to the hibs club or the persy but I doubt he would

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Arthur: I am your king!
Woman: Well I didn't vote for you!
Arthur: You don't vote for kings!
Woman: Well 'ow'd you become king then?
(holy music up)
Arthur: The Lady of the Lake-- her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite,
held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by
divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why
I am your king!
Man: (laughingly) Listen: Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords
is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power
derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some... farcical
aquatic ceremony!
Arthur: (yelling) BE QUIET!
Man: You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some
watery tart threw a sword at you!!
Arthur: (coming forward and grabbing the man) Shut *UP*!
Man: I mean, if I went 'round, saying I was an emperor, just because some
moistened bink had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
Arthur: (throwing the man around) Shut up, will you, SHUT UP!
Man: Aha! Now we see the violence inherent in the system!
Arthur: SHUT UP!
Man: (yelling to all the other workers) Come and see the violence inherent
in the system! HELP, HELP, I'M BEING REPRESSED!
Arthur: (letting go and walking away) Bloody PEASANT!
Man: Oh, what a giveaway! Did'j'hear that, did'j'hear that, eh? That's
what I'm all about! Did you see 'im repressing me? You saw it,
didn't you?!

[AugustaHibs]

Premier league called off. **** off.

[grunt]

Premier league called off. **** off.Which probably means the SPFL will follow suit.

[David_D]

EFL called off games this weekend now as well

[Smartie]

I think sports should continue, maybe anything planned for the day of her funeral should reconsider but I don't see why the game tomorrow should not go ahead.

I wish there was a common sense way through this.

Leave the sporting events on. Have a minutes silence. People, even those who aren't royalists show a bit of respect by shutting up for one minute. We have a day where things are cancelled for the funeral, possibly even a holiday for A DAY to mark the occasion.

Then we get on with life.

Instead we'll have weeks of mourning, everything being cancelled, everyone who disagrees with everything being cancelled being cancelled, every opportunity taken to belittle and dismiss those who just happen to hold a different opinion on the matter in both directions , and another maudlin, tasteless grief competition to see who can be hurting the most.

I'm no royalist but I'm pretty sure it's NOT what she would have wanted.

[Hiber-nation]

Which probably means the SPFL will follow suit.

Don't know why it's taking so long. Wish they'd hurry up as I'm still stupidly retaining the faintest hope that a trip to Tannadice is still on the cards....

[JamesHFC]

No confirmation yet but I think next weekend is also likely to be postponed. Influx of global citizens coming for the funeral. Policing be at its max.

[Mick O'Rourke]

And while all this is going on, lets hope the unelected Thatcher tribute act in number 10 is not further delaying (after the tory election hold up) in getting to grips with the current crisis/emergency,now that she refused to impose the windfall tax on the eye watering profits of the enegy companies.Shameful.

She could also lets us all vote for her ! and call a General Election after the funeral.

[Steven79]

And while all this is going on, lets hope the unelected Thatcher tribute act in number 10 is not further delaying (after the tory election hold up) in getting to grips with the current crisis/emergency,even if she did refuse to impose the windfall tax on the eye watering profits of the enegy companies.Shameful.

She could also go the democratic way and call a General Election after the funeral.Tories will win a landslide if they call a landslide GE next year due to them drumming up British Nationism and the cost of living crisis taking a back seat to all this mourning as England will lap it up.

They will no doubt have in their manifesto that they want to reign in Scotland and bring the UK closer together and bring in new legislation if they win the election to bring this about.

Worrying times.

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[Chorley Hibee]

And while all this is going on, lets hope the unelected Thatcher tribute act in number 10 is not further delaying (after the tory election hold up) in getting to grips with the current crisis/emergency,even if she did refuse to impose the windfall tax on the eye watering profits of the enegy companies.Shameful.

She could also go the democratic way and call a General Election after the funeral.

No chance unfortunately.

This is the perfect opportunity for the reality of everyday life to be ignored whilst myths and fairytales are given centre stage.

Yesterday, we even had a newscaster on the BBC announce that the "energy crisis was now insignificant."

It's a dream scenario for Truss and the government right now.

[wookie70]

And while all this is going on, lets hope the unelected Thatcher tribute act in number 10 is not further delaying (after the tory election hold up) in getting to grips with the current crisis/emergency,even if she did refuse to impose the windfall tax on the eye watering profits of the enegy companies.Shameful.

She could also lets us all vote for her ! and call a General Election after the funeral.

Perfect timing for Truss. She will have no press and no parliament to worry about and she can shine in the eyes of Tory voters and royal lovers by just wearing a black suit and showing some reverence. It is a very different event but much like the Falklands saved Thatcher the Queen's death could be hugely beneficial to Truss. Her speech about energy was chilling for me and she will completely get away with ripping up the environment and guaranteeing massive profits for energy companies from our pockets. She might end up the Ally McCoist of politics and have balls hit off her and go in the net.

[hibsbollah]

Perfect timing for Truss. She will have no press and no parliament to worry about and she can shine in the eyes of Tory voters and royal lovers by just wearing a black suit and showing some reverence. It is a very different event but much like the Falklands saved Thatcher the Queen's death could be hugely beneficial to Truss. Her speech about energy was chilling for me and she will completely get away with ripping up the environment and guaranteeing massive profits for energy companies from our pockets. She might end up the Ally McCoist of politics and have balls hit off her and go in the net.

I don't know if it is. She will need to show sensitivity and a subtle ability to seem authentic and compassionate. I dont think she can pull it off. I think her 'reign' will be forever associated with the upcoming winter recession and a broken economy. Not to mention social unrest. Its a really bad time to take office.

[grunt]

Perfect timing for Truss. She will have no press and no parliament to worry about and she can shine in the eyes of Tory voters and royal lovers by just wearing a black suit and showing some reverence.
UK Gov has just announced that the British Geological Society report into fracking - believed to be critical of the decision to remove the ban on fracking - will now not be released until after the period of mourning. It was supposed to have been issued at the same time as the ban was removed.

[grunt]

Confirmation that all SPFL, SWPL, Highland League and Lowland League fixtures this weekend have been postponed.
Date for matches resuming is TBA.

[LunasBoots]

No chance unfortunately.

This is the perfect opportunity for the reality of everyday life to be ignored whilst myths and fairytales are given centre stage.

Yesterday, we even had a newscaster on the BBC announce that the "energy crisis was now insignificant."

It's a dream scenario for Truss and the government right now.

Just what Liz Truss would have dreamed of, ex employee of Shell and probably has shares in them, also alot of her donations came from people involved in energy companies, she will look after her own and freinds interests like a good Tory.

[Moulin Yarns]

The stupidity of radio Scotland news.

And now we go over to the house of commons where they will honour the Queen by holding a minute silence



I've just listened to a radio silence 🙄

[Mick O'Rourke]

I don't know if it is. She will need to show sensitivity and a subtle ability to seem authentic and compassionate. I dont think she can pull it off. I think her 'reign' will be forever associated with the upcoming winter recession and a broken economy. Not to mention social unrest. Its a really bad time to take office.

And what you say lies ahead is a good enough reason to do the right thing and call an election
.Let the people be heard.
Brexit has been a mess. Boris is/was a lying mess (predictable)
The tory party split/infighting (her cabinet appts will sure keep that going) and now the worsening energy crisis.

The voters needs to voice their say on the record/action/inaction of the tories during all the above.

[Smartie]

I don't know if it is. She will need to show sensitivity and a subtle ability to seem authentic and compassionate. I dont think she can pull it off. I think her 'reign' will be forever associated with the upcoming winter recession and a broken economy. Not to mention social unrest. Its a really bad time to take office.

Yeah I think I agree. It's an opportunity for her, no doubt, but one that she probably lacks any of the appropriate skills (or sensible people around her) to be able to take full advantage of.

[DH1875]

Is there a 96 gun salute at the castle today? Better cover your ears.

[Kato]

The stupidity of radio Scotland news.

And now we go over to the house of commons where they will honour the Queen by holding a minute silence



I've just listened to a radio silence [emoji849]The BBC's biggest radio star in the 40's was a ventriloquist act.

It's a wonder jugglers and tight rope walkers weren't invited on.

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[Mick O'Rourke]

The BBC's biggest radio star in the 40's was a ventriloquist act.

It's a wonder jugglers and tight rope walkers weren't invited on.

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In the 50s/ early60s Magician David Nixon taught us youngsters card tricks on the radio !

Glued to it,we were:greengrin

[stokesmessiah]

Have they confirmed when the funeral will be held?

[Crunchie]

Forced mourning is sickening. I’ve turned the radio off, every station playing maudlin music. I get it, head of state, queen for 70 years etc. but why are we all being forced to be seen to be sad. I’m not, she led a long privileged life and never once would have wondered where her next meal would come from or how to heat any of her multiple castles and palaces. Those who want to mourn should be allowed to but those of us who really don’t care that much should be allowed to just get in with life as normal. This peeve isn’t confined to this instance either.
You're not being forced to do anything, you're just having a classless rant like a few others.

[Moulin Yarns]

Anybody who caught themselves to be within 10m of liz is being interviewed. Even the butcher in Ballater, " aye, she always ordered her sausages from us"

[CropleyWasGod]

The BBC's biggest radio star in the 40's was a ventriloquist act.

It's a wonder jugglers and tight rope walkers weren't invited on.

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My sister was a dancer.

On Radio Forth 😆

[Kato]

My sister was a dancer.

On Radio Forth [emoji38]Radio Forth tried a phone-in show where callers described their antiques >over the phone< and a panel gave them an estimate.


Caller
"I've got a picture with those Sunflowers."

Panel
"It's a print"

...was a common theme.

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[Bristolhibby]

UK Gov has just announced that the British Geological Society report into fracking - believed to be critical of the decision to remove the ban on fracking - will now not be released until after the period of mourning. It was supposed to have been issued at the same time as the ban was removed.

Surely keep the ban in place.

Scotland must continue to hold the line on the ban. Or is this some weird “energy” resevered issue?

J

[Mon Dieu4]

https://twitter.com/Glasgow_Times/status/1568198610449219584?t=gh-CX_RhJO2vuBlWd0LiFQ&s=19

Nothing says respect like a duct tape armband and a copy of the Metro

[Stairway 2 7]

Has anything been cancelled bar football choosing to do it themselves. Cricket, rugby, golf and horses on Sunday. Kevin bridges going ahead, nightclubs open, Edinburgh uni freshers events going ahead next week.

I'm surprised how little is stopping changed times I suppose. People in Edinburgh and London will notice it more than any others though, as its going to be a pain in the arse next week

[neil7908]

https://twitter.com/Glasgow_Times/status/1568198610449219584?t=gh-CX_RhJO2vuBlWd0LiFQ&s=19

Nothing says respect like a duct tape armband and a copy of the Metro

This is awesome.

[He's here!]

Has anything been cancelled bar football choosing to do it themselves. Cricket, rugby, golf and horses on Sunday. Kevin bridges going ahead, nightclubs open, Edinburgh uni freshers events going ahead next week.

I'm surprised how little is stopping changed times I suppose. People in Edinburgh and London will notice it more than any others though, as its going to be a pain in the arse next week

SRU has cancelled all domestic rugby this weekend:

https://twitter.com/Scotlandteam/status/1567957896054407169?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Think all racing remains off tomorrow.

[HH81]

Have they confirmed when the funeral will be held?

Heard a week on Monday but not confirmed anywhere.

[Stairway 2 7]

SRU has cancelled all domestic rugby this weekend:

https://twitter.com/Scotlandteam/status/1567957896054407169?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Think all racing remains off tomorrow.

English rugby union and league on. Racing back on Sunday bar Musselburgh. Scottish cancelling more than down south it seems

[lapsedhibee]

Has anything been cancelled bar football choosing to do it themselves.

Met Office not so keen to give out tomorrow's weather, as a mark of respect.

Met Office
@metoffice
We are saddened by the death of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. Our thoughts are with her family and all those affected by this news.

As a mark of respect during this time of national mourning we will only be posting daily forecasts and warnings.

[hibsbollah]

Met Office not so keen to give out tomorrow's weather, as a mark of respect.

Met Office
@metoffice
We are saddened by the death of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. Our thoughts are with her family and all those affected by this news.

As a mark of respect during this time of national mourning we will only be posting daily forecasts and warnings.

Does this mean the actual weather will stop too as a mark of respect? It seems to be a bit blustery at the moment with scattered showers. HMTQ hated Thomas Schaffernaker by all accounts so the whole weather cancel culture thing is very possibly appropriate.

[lapsedhibee]

Does this mean the actual weather will stop too as a mark of respect? It seems to be a bit blustery at the moment with scattered showers. HMTQ hated Thomas Schaffernaker by all accounts so the whole weather cancel culture thing is very possibly appropriate.

The actual weather itself is involved:

https://twitter.com/jonsopel/status/1568251919835201536/photo/1

[Mick O'Rourke]

Does this mean the actual weather will stop too as a mark of respect? It seems to be a bit blustery at the moment with scattered showers. HMTQ hated Thomas Schaffernaker by all accounts so the whole weather cancel culture thing is very possibly appropriate.

Why was that?

The BBC Royal correspondent,Nick Witchell seems in the long time past to have upset the now King Charlie .
I recall many years ago,Charlie was at Balmoral sitting among the heather with his laddies doing a photo shoot.
Witchell was in attendance.A microphone caught Charlie out
Overheard whispering to his sons " I cannot stand that man" referring to Witchell.
Wonder if they kissed and made up on whtever the problem was.
Witchell,nearly 70 now,is still doing that job. Was on tv the past coupla days reporting i think from Balmoral.

[Hibrandenburg]

https://twitter.com/Glasgow_Times/status/1568198610449219584?t=gh-CX_RhJO2vuBlWd0LiFQ&s=19

Nothing says respect like a duct tape armband and a copy of the Metro

Some of those flowers look like they've been recycled from Princess Diana's memorial.

[Pretty Boy]

Not as acerbic and cutting as her usual output but a thought provoking piece from Mariana Hyde:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/09/britain-queen-death-public-feeling-diana-brexit-emotion

[Bostonhibby]

https://twitter.com/Glasgow_Times/status/1568198610449219584?t=gh-CX_RhJO2vuBlWd0LiFQ&s=19

Nothing says respect like a duct tape armband and a copy of the MetroThe boy's insulated himself in case of a mass electrocution event, the world's a dangerous place.

When everyone else is frazzled he will have the last laugh.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Saw on TV nfl had a minute silence as did us open, f1 and the cricket in India. Showed all the different nations lighting up buildings for her. All a bit mental for a foreign head of state, no sure if there is many other heads where this would happen

[Mick O'Rourke]

https://twitter.com/Glasgow_Times/status/1568198610449219584?t=gh-CX_RhJO2vuBlWd0LiFQ&s=19

Nothing says respect like a duct tape armband and a copy of the Metro

Hunday Mourning,you gave me no warning*




*Apologies to The Mamas & The Papas

[wookie70]

You're not being forced to do anything, you're just having a classless rant like a few others.

A friend told me about the time she work in a cafe when Princess Diana died. On the day of the funeral the cafe was staying open. The businesses around relentlessly pressured the owner to close and she eventually did losing revenue wand meaning her staff went unpaid. Fortunately my friend is strong and talked to the owner so she could work that day but on cleaning duties etc as the shop remained closed. That is what we mean by being forced.

I went to flick through the radio stations this morning. Even the music stations were playing morbid rubbish and songs from artist such as Prince, Purple "Reign". I have no issue with the news channels and BBC 1 dedicating themselves to the Queen and also stopping programmes that may be deemed offensive. However by withdrawing all live programming that isn't dedicated to the Queen they are forcing you to do something else. I wanted to watch the athletics the evening she died and the exact same programming was on BBC1 and BBC2, why.

It is choice being withdrawn that is the issue as for many of us nothing has happened worthy of any thought whatsoever. The big story for me is TV and radio changing, loss of earnings and sport decimated. The Queen dying is sad for those that care but doesn't touch my life beyond the loss of choice. An ex colleague died the other week and I have thought about him quite a lot in the last week. The Queen as an individual won't cross my mind, why should after she passed away when she didn't when alive.

On a separate note I am delighted that Youth Football is on this weekend in Scotland and the organisation has thought about their stakeholders, the players, and their wellbeing. If only the professional part of the people's game gave two hoots about their main stakeholders. We may as a group have said no games but we weren't given a thought.

[Jakhog1]

https://twitter.com/Glasgow_Times/status/1568198610449219584?t=gh-CX_RhJO2vuBlWd0LiFQ&s=19

Nothing says respect like a duct tape armband and a copy of the Metro


Wow, how to tell someone you are a rangers fan without telling them you are a rangers fan. Nice of him to dress up for the occasion.

[wookie70]

UK Gov has just announced that the British Geological Society report into fracking - believed to be critical of the decision to remove the ban on fracking - will now not be released until after the period of mourning. It was supposed to have been issued at the same time as the ban was removed.

It has been a tactic all through Johnson's Government. Look how long Sue Gray's report took and Russia report took. Not that it matters as experts and science don't count as much as lobbyists with big wallets

[Mick O'Rourke]

A friend told me about the time she work in a cafe when Princess Diana died. On the day of the funeral the cafe was staying open. The businesses around relentlessly pressured the owner to close and she eventually did losing revenue wand meaning her staff went unpaid. Fortunately my friend is strong and talked to the owner so she could work that day but on cleaning duties etc as the shop remained closed. That is what we mean by being forced.

I went to flick through the radio stations this morning. Even the music stations were playing morbid rubbish and songs from artist such as Prince, Purple "Reign". I have no issue with the news channels and BBC 1 dedicating themselves to the Queen and also stopping programmes that may be deemed offensive. However by withdrawing all live programming that isn't dedicated to the Queen they are forcing you to do something else. I wanted to watch the athletics the evening she died and the exact same programming was on BBC1 and BBC2, why.

It is choice being withdrawn that is the issue as for many of us nothing has happened worthy of any thought whatsoever. The big story for me is TV and radio changing, loss of earnings and sport decimated. The Queen dying is sad for those that care but doesn't touch my life beyond the loss of choice. An ex colleague died the other week and I have thought about him quite a lot in the last week. The Queen as an individual won't cross my mind, why should after she passed away when she didn't when alive.

On a separate note I am delighted that Youth Football is on this weekend in Scotland and the organisation has thought about their stakeholders, the players, and their wellbeing. If only the professional part of the people's game gave two hoots about their main stakeholders. We may as a group have said no games but we weren't given a thought.

Wookie
I read the Youth Football website. Mixed messages It needs to update
My grandson,who is involved with CastleVale YDC ,says he got text that all grassroot football cancelled until further notice

He is raging as to why kids sport should be stopped

The"wee frees" will be loving this
So bloody archaic all this cancelled nonsense

[hibsbollah]

Not as acerbic and cutting as her usual output but a thought provoking piece from Mariana Hyde:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/09/britain-queen-death-public-feeling-diana-brexit-emotion

I’ve always liked Mark Twain a lot as a writer; his biography made a strong case that when he was alive his greatness wasn’t recognised because he was so funny, that the ability to make people laugh obscured the quality and depth of his writing. And there is a certain snobbishness around comedy and satire.

In the same way I think Martina Hyde is a brilliant writer and I hope she continues to do more and possibly spread her wings away from just U.K. politics. She can crack me up just like Twain does.

[wookie70]

Wookie
I read the Youth Football website. Mixed messages It needs to update
My grandson,who is involved with CastleVale YDC ,says he got text that all grassroot football cancelled until further notice

He is raging as to why kids sport should be stopped

The"wee frees" will be loving this
So bloody archaic all this cancelled nonsense

This is what I read, seems clear enough and for very good reasons
https://www.facebook.com/likeyfs/photos/a.199510540090352/8053340764707251/

[wookie70]

Saw on TV nfl had a minute silence as did us open, f1 and the cricket in India. Showed all the different nations lighting up buildings for her. All a bit mental for a foreign head of state, no sure if there is many other heads where this would happen

Even more mental when we are in an energy crisis and demand against supply is driving price hikes. Germany and other countries are sensibly turning off bridges and public buildings etc when not in use.

[hibsbollah]

Astonishing coverage from across the channel in Le monde again. First five articles about different aspects of the death and succession, as well as a deep dive into Irish republicans celebrating on social media, which doesn’t seem to have made it onto the BBCs coverage. Perhaps just as well.

https://www.lemonde.fr/

[Mick O'Rourke]

This is what I read, seems clear enough and for very good reasons
https://www.facebook.com/likeyfs/photos/a.199510540090352/8053340764707251/

I see that
Just that South East Region Youth FA announced cancellation earlier :aok:

[Moulin Yarns]

Hunday Mourning,you gave me no warning*




*Apologies to The Mamas & The Papas

:not worth:not worth:not worth Just noticed his name

[wookie70]

I see that
Just that South East Region Youth FA announced cancellation earlier :aok:

This is their website. Seems the same message as main governing body
https://www.seryfa-online.info/news/news/guidance-weekends-fixtures-9th10th-11th-september

[Mick O'Rourke]

This is their website. Seems the same message as main governing body
https://www.seryfa-online.info/news/news/guidance-weekends-fixtures-9th10th-11th-september

Yes i notice that Is why i said "mixed messages"
That very page you link had "all games cancelled" earlier

[Chorley Hibee]

Don't worry, you can still buy your crotchless knickers and dildo, but only after you've paid suitable respect.

It's what she'd have wanted after all.

https://twitter.com/ruth_91/status/1568012484568846337?t=MRQJf7KvQfw8mtIBw3D9gg&s=19

[Mick O'Rourke]

:not worth:not worth:not worth Just noticed his name

God only knows

[wookie70]

Yes i notice that Is why i said "mixed messages"
That very page you link had "all games cancelled" earlier

My lad has had his amateur game cancelled. All players in his team seemingly furious and quite a few of them support the The Thes. Hope you get clarification of your game.

The Civil Service Sports Club Games were called off a short while ago so there is another event for me gone. Bizarrely out of 4 events I was photographing the only one that is left is the Great North Run where Dinosaurs and Wonder Women will probably wear black armbands as they sweat and heavy breathe their way to the finish. Interesting that a charity chooses to continue. Their website reasoning gies me the boak.

"The event has traditionally been a celebration of the extraordinary achievements of ordinary people, this year it will be an opportunity for us to come together and express our condolences, while celebrating the life of our extraordinary Queen."

Lets ignore all those ordinary people this year as someone extraordinary has died. They really understand serfdom

[Hibs90]

Is talking about abolishing the monarchy political?

[wookie70]

Is talking about abolishing the monarchy political?

I'm not sure and that matters if you are a Civil Servant. I would say no but many would disagree. To me the monarchy is part of political process but not political if that makes sense. They still do the ceremonial signing of laws etc but they have no say in them. The new King of course may act differently and I don't know what the technicalities are.

[Mick O'Rourke]

My lad has had his amateur game cancelled. All players in his team seemingly furious and quite a few of them support the The Thes. Hope you get clarification of your game.

The Civil Service Sports Club Games were called off a short while ago so there is another event for me gone. Bizarrely out of 4 events I was photographing the only one that is left is the Great North Run where Dinosaurs and Wonder Women will probably wear black armbands as they sweat and heavy breathe their way to the finish. Interesting that a charity chooses to continue. Their website reasoning gies me the boak.

"The event has traditionally been a celebration of the extraordinary achievements of ordinary people, this year it will be an opportunity for us to come together and express our condolences, while celebrating the life of our extraordinary Queen."

Lets ignore all those ordinary people this year as someone extraordinary has died. They really understand serfdom

You must be so frustrated. Goes without saying,really.
Just spoke to my grandson. It is his son who plays for Castlevale.
He say the club coach is saying game cancelled.
So as you say may be decisions made by individual clubs in agreement to postpone.
I kept texting my Grandson what you said and he got angry at me cos his coach says different !!

No need for all this, is there?
As someone else said here ..
The majority just want to get on with routine whilst recognising others may wish to mourn.

I read also that the UK Govt has left it down to organisations what they wish to do in terms of what we are debating here today
So its not an edict from Whitehall... or for that matter Holyrood.

[Hibs90]

I'm not sure and that matters if you are a Civil Servant. I would say no but many would disagree. To me the monarchy is part of political process but not political if that makes sense. They still do the ceremonial signing of laws etc but they have no say in them. The new King of course may act differently and I don't know what the technicalities are.

Well he has previous doesn't he!

[wookie70]

You must be so frustrated. Goes without saying,really.
Just spoke to my grandson. It is his son who plays for Castlevale.
He say the club coach is saying game cancelled.
So as you say may be decisions made by individual clubs in agreement to postpone.
I kept texting my Grandson what you said and he got angry at me cos his coach says different !!

No need for all this is there.
As someone else said here ..
The majority just want to get on with routine whilst recognising others may wish to mourn.

I read also that the UK Govt has left it down to organisations what they wish to do in terms of what we are debating here today
So its not an edict from Whitehall... or for that matter Holyrood.

I'll blame the Government for many things but the chaos and cancellations is not their fault.

I actually have no issue with cancellation as a means to show respect if that is what the bulk of stakeholders want. I can also see why some organisations may want to cancel games en masse as the Queen was their patron or their sport like, Horse Racing, has a close affinity. Has the Queen got a connection with Scottish Football and particularly Youth and Amateur Football that I am not aware of.

[Mick O'Rourke]

Well he has previous doesn't he!

If he had the vote, I suspect Green Party would be his X

[wookie70]

If he had the vote, I suspect Green Party would be his X

What party was Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber Al Thani in. I suspect he may have secured support

[He's here!]

Saw on TV nfl had a minute silence as did us open, f1 and the cricket in India. Showed all the different nations lighting up buildings for her. All a bit mental for a foreign head of state, no sure if there is many other heads where this would happen

Not a big surprise. Just underlines the global respect in which she was held.

[Santa Cruz]

This is basically restrictions some similar to covid. By all means mourn the death of the Queen but it should not be impacting on ordinary peoples day to day lives.

[Mick O'Rourke]

What party was Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber Al Thani in. I suspect he may have secured support


Well most western leaders are bowing to the Saudis
Whats new?

[Stairway 2 7]

This is basically restrictions some similar to covid. By all means mourn the death of the Queen but it should not be impacting on ordinary peoples day to day lives.

I disagree. Covid restrictions were rules put down by law restricting us, in some cases away from family and in our home.

As far as I can see the government have said do what you want and if a business wants to close its up to them. Epl, sfa and sru are daft to close and about the only ones to close. All other sports going ahead, nightclubs, museums, cinemas, restaurants, comedy shows and gigs still on. As pretty boy said its just basically like the games off for the weather. I'm gutted I can't go tomorrow, but will do something fun with the bairns

[B.H.F.C]

This is basically restrictions some similar to covid. By all means mourn the death of the Queen but it should not be impacting on ordinary peoples day to day lives.

Most of the cancellations have been by choice rather than the government forcing it, so I don’t think it’s really comparable. It also makes it even more annoying when there’s no need for it.

[cameronw-hfc]

My lad has had his amateur game cancelled. All players in his team seemingly furious and quite a few of them support the The Thes. Hope you get clarification of your game.

The Civil Service Sports Club Games were called off a short while ago so there is another event for me gone. Bizarrely out of 4 events I was photographing the only one that is left is the Great North Run where Dinosaurs and Wonder Women will probably wear black armbands as they sweat and heavy breathe their way to the finish. Interesting that a charity chooses to continue. Their website reasoning gies me the boak.

"The event has traditionally been a celebration of the extraordinary achievements of ordinary people, this year it will be an opportunity for us to come together and express our condolences, while celebrating the life of our extraordinary Queen."

Lets ignore all those ordinary people this year as someone extraordinary has died. They really understand serfdom


Our league is off, got a message in the coaches chat about all games being off this week, then the YFS puts up that they're going ahead. It's all a shambles, football games for kids shouldn't be cancelled. They don't care who died, and I disagree on the forced mourning. The option to mourn if you want should be there, but we shouldn't all be forced into it.

We made fun of North Korea for the exact same things, yet when it's over here it's all dandy and called respect.

[Bostonhibby]

Wow, how to tell someone you are a rangers fan without telling them you are a rangers fan. Nice of him to dress up for the occasion.It's just been drawn to my attention that it is in fact Ted Bovis that is paying his respects here so we can drop this distasteful hun link from the thread now.

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[Betty Boop]

Our league is off, got a message in the coaches chat about all games being off this week, then the YFS puts up that they're going ahead. It's all a shambles, football games for kids shouldn't be cancelled. They don't care who died, and I disagree on the forced mourning. The option to mourn if you want should be there, but we shouldn't all be forced into it.

We made fun of North Korea for the exact same things, yet when it's over here it's all dandy and called respect.
Aye because the UK is comparable to North Korea.

[Santa Cruz]

I disagree. Covid restrictions were rules put down by law restricting us, in some cases away from family and in our home.

As far as I can see the government have said do what you want and if a business wants to close its up to them. Epl, sfa and sru are daft to close and about the only ones to close. All other sports going ahead, nightclubs, museums, cinemas, restaurants, comedy shows and gigs still on. As pretty boy said its just basically like the games off for the weather. I'm gutted I can't go tomorrow, but will do something fun with the bairns

Sound, I’ll wake up in the morning and pretend that everything is off because of the bad weather and nothing to do with the authorities 😂

[Jay]

Sound, I’ll wake up in the morning and pretend that everything is off because of the bad weather and nothing to do with the authorities ��

It's hardly covid times. Your free to leave your house and I get folk being upset about football, I'm seeing the amateur games are off too but there's no restrictions on your freedom and seeing people.

[Keith_M]

Isa it too soon to post a poll on 'retain or abolish the monarchy'?

[lapsedhibee]

Isa it too soon to post a poll on 'retain or abolish the monarchy'?

Yes. Only being going a few hundred years. Jury's still out.

[Stairway 2 7]

Sound, I’ll wake up in the morning and pretend that everything is off because of the bad weather and nothing to do with the authorities 😂

Football authorities. Can still go out and do pretty much anything bar watch the football.

[Santa Cruz]

It's hardly covid times. Your free to leave your house and I get folk being upset about football, I'm seeing the amateur games are off too but there's no restrictions on your freedom and seeing people.

And what about the people who’s only opportunity this weekend to see other people was the football?

[overdrive]

The government need to legislate on this to make sure this nonsense doesn’t happen when Charles dies. Life needs to go on.

The tories want to reduce entitlement to annual leave to make sure business can do what they want during tough economic times. Yet here we are shutting stuff down because a woman in her mid 90s has shockingly died.

[wookie70]

Isa it too soon to post a poll on 'retain or abolish the monarchy'?
Not too early and the perfect opportunity to make a decision.

My vote would be to let them call themselves royal but they would have no power over any law or any government action. They could retain a decent chunk of their estate with the choice of one estate in each country and the house they most often live in. There would be no Crown Estate and all monies held as well as any planes, trains etc would be owned by the state and no security or financial help would be given. They can keep any jewels etc that have a role in pageantry as that is likely their future revenue stream. Titles are only for offspring and no official titles out with that. If they want to change the guards it costs as does any transport etc. Basically the monarchy can remain in name but it is entirely without power and separate from the state. If it is such a big draw then they can crack on in our extreme capitalist country and make a very good living. They would also be entitled to have open opinions about anything in society, mind you the present King has had that for some while.

[Jay]

And what about the people who’s only opportunity this weekend to see other people was the football?


Everything's open. Go for a drink, a coffee, lunch, a walk, shopping , have them visit you. We aren't prisoners . If you really want you can still go to Dundee. A 90 minute event has been cancelled, I don't agree with it but I understand it .

[Pretty Boy]

Sound, I’ll wake up in the morning and pretend that everything is off because of the bad weather and nothing to do with the authorities 😂

Everything isn't off.

I'll have a go at the government (particularly this government), the establishment and the monarchy with the best of them.

However in this instance football has jumped the gun and cancelled games expecting a blanket shutdown that never came. I'd argue there is an element of self preservation at play as well, avoiding the minutes silence avoids the bad press that is an inevitability.

It's incomparable to covid when enforced shutdowns restricted almost every aspect of our social life. The government guidance basically says do what you like and football has made their own decision (the wrong one imo).

[Kato]

Not too early and the perfect opportunity to make a decision.

My vote would be to let them call themselves royal but they would have no power over any law or any government action. They could retain a decent chunk of their estate with the choice of one estate in each country and the house they most often live in. There would be no Crown Estate and all monies held as well as any planes, trains etc would be owned by the state and no security or financial help would be given. They can keep any jewels etc that have a role in pageantry as that is likely their future revenue stream. Titles are only for offspring and no official titles out with that. If they want to change the guards it costs as does any transport etc. Basically the monarchy can remain in name but it is entirely without power and separate from the state. If it is such a big draw then they can crack on in our extreme capitalist country and make a very good living. They would also be entitled to have open opinions about anything in society, mind you the present King has had that for some while.Privatise it. Sell shares on the market. That's what they normally do.

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[Santa Cruz]

Everything's open. Go for a drink, a coffee, lunch, a walk, shopping , have them visit you. We aren't prisoners . If you really want you can still go to Dundee. A 90 minute event has been cancelled, I don't agree with it but I understand it .

I’m fine mate but thousands of isolated people in the uk would have been looking forward to the social side of football this weekend and that’s off for no reason

[Stairway 2 7]

Not too early and the perfect opportunity to make a decision.

My vote would be to let them call themselves royal but they would have no power over any law or any government action. They could retain a decent chunk of their estate with the choice of one estate in each country and the house they most often live in. There would be no Crown Estate and all monies held as well as any planes, trains etc would be owned by the state and no security or financial help would be given. They can keep any jewels etc that have a role in pageantry as that is likely their future revenue stream. Titles are only for offspring and no official titles out with that. If they want to change the guards it costs as does any transport etc. Basically the monarchy can remain in name but it is entirely without power and separate from the state. If it is such a big draw then they can crack on in our extreme capitalist country and make a very good living. They would also be entitled to have open opinions about anything in society, mind you the present King has had that for some while.

Majority of Scots polled always say they would retain the monarchy instead of abolishing or getting elected head of state. I'm sure there's a huge generational divide and that will change. They won't be going soon though

[wookie70]

Majority of Scots polled always say they would retain the monarchy instead of abolishing or getting elected head of state. I'm sure there's a huge generational divide and that will change. They won't be going soon though
Give it a few years with a new monarch, poverty, recession etc etc and I think that may change. If indeed there is a majority
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/15/scottish-support-for-monarchy-falls-to-45-poll-reveals

[CropleyWasGod]

It's not all bad.

No adverts on telly just now 😁

[Hibbyradge]

I’m fine mate but thousands of isolated people in the uk would have been looking forward to the social side of football this weekend and that’s off for no reason

I would guess that they would have a strategy for when there's no football between May and August.

Maybe they'll do something similar on Saturday.

[Santa Cruz]

I would guess that they would have a strategy for when there's no football between May and August.

Maybe they'll do something similar on Saturday.

Hopefully 🇳🇬🇳🇬

[cameronw-hfc]

Aye because the UK is comparable to North Korea.

I wasn't saying general policy wise, but this forced 9 days of mourning is literally something we mock when others do it

[stokesmessiah]

Has there been a date confirmed and is there going to be a public holiday?

[Santa Cruz]

I wasn't saying general policy wise, but this forced 9 days of mourning is literally something we mock when others do it

Agree

[Colr]

Has there been a date confirmed and is there going to be a public holiday?

19th, I understand

[CropleyWasGod]

I wasn't saying general policy wise, but this forced 9 days of mourning is literally something we mock when others do it

Is it forced?

[Santa Cruz]

Is it forced?

Yes, it’s an attempt to force. Why are the TV channels dominated why else is the football off.

[CropleyWasGod]

Yes, it’s an attempt to force. Why are the TV channels dominated why else is the football off.

The football is off because the football authorities misread the situation. That's on them, not any establishment pressure.

I don't feel forced at all. I have an off switch on my TV, and can go out without feeling any pressure to wear black and look sullen.

[B.H.F.C]

I wasn't saying general policy wise, but this forced 9 days of mourning is literally something we mock when others do it

Nothing is really being forced. The one thing most folk on here have in common is football. And football has decided to shut itself down which is absolutely ridiculous.

The wall to wall coverage doesn’t do anything for me but, in this day and age, it’s easy enough to find other things to watch.

[DH1875]

Not sure how folk now a days with 100s of channels to chose from would have managed back in the day. Remember at the end of every night when they used to play GSTQ on the TV. See if you didn't want to listen to it, you switched it off. Just saying like.

[B.H.F.C]

The football is off because the football authorities misread the situation. That's on them, not any establishment pressure.

I don't feel forced at all. I have an off switch on my TV, and can go out without feeling any pressure to wear black and look sullen.

Agree. Football authorities have majorly blundered. Should be reimbursing all of us that are out of pocket as a result (although that obviously won’t happen).

[Santa Cruz]

The football is off because the football authorities misread the situation. That's on them, not any establishment pressure.

I don't feel forced at all. I have an off switch on my TV, and can go out without feeling any pressure to wear black and look sullen.

Agree mate but the Queen dying should not change how me or you or anyone else’s lives are lived - if we don’t want it to

[CropleyWasGod]

Agree mate but the Queen dying should not change how me or you or anyone else’s lives are lived - if we don’t want it to

It's not changing mine.

Edit. It is for the better. There's no adverts on the telly.🙂

[Since90+2]

The football is off because the football authorities misread the situation. That's on them, not any establishment pressure.

I don't feel forced at all. I have an off switch on my TV, and can go out without feeling any pressure to wear black and look sullen.

I can't but think people are being naive if they believe footballing authorities simply "misread" the situation.

Absolutely guaranteed there would have been, shall we say, pressure, behind closed doors from authorities in other areas of power for the games to be off. This whole thing has clearly been carefully controlled in the media and everyone knows that football has the powerkeg potential for a lot of negative press if fans don't act as expected during silences/claps. That is not something the powers that be would allow to potentially happen and risk it being broadcast domestically and abroad.

I've absolutely no doubt that is the real reason why football, along with boxing, has been cancelled and less "risky" sports like Rugby and Cricket in England are continuing.

I find it difficult to believe football authorities weren't aware other sports were continuing and they just got it wrong. They'd have known fine we'll what the plan was for other professional sports, as they'd have undoubtedly asked the question.

The people involved at the top of running the game in Scotland might be amateurs, but they certainly aren't at the FA and EPL, they are smart switched on people who will know exactly what is going on.

[Mibbes Aye]

Thanks. Had forgotten about that.

Next question for you royal watchers. Victoria, Victorian; Edward, Edwardian; George, Georgian; Elizabeth, Elizabethan. What's the correct way to describe the current period? Does King Charles become the adjective? Charlesque would be a bit French-sounding.


I've heard it called the Caroleon era, which dates back to Charles II who ruled England from 1660-1685.

There's a question about what constitutes an era in regnal terms. The two previous Charles both put in twenty year shifts or thereabouts.

Charles I's reign was the Caroline era.

Charles II's reign is called the Carolean era but the more common term used to describe the period is the 'Restoration', referring to the restoration of the Stuart monarchy.

As for Charles III, there's every chance he will ignore precedent and seek to modernise.

It's Chico Time!!!

[stoneyburn hibs]

I'm no royalist but... I've came to the conclusion that every post, statement,story with that start gives me the boak.

Just actually say what the actual **** you mean.

[Callum_62]

Someone asked earlier if Kevin Bridges show was going ahead

https://www.thenational.scot/news/21250922.kevin-bridges-jokes-queen-wont-old-woman-die-winter-glasgow-gig/

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[neil7908]

I can't but think people are being naive if they believe footballing authorities simply "misread" the situation.

Absolutely guaranteed there would have been, shall we say, pressure, behind closed doors from authorities in other areas of power for the games to be off. This whole thing has clearly been carefully controlled in the media and everyone knows that football has the powerkeg potential for a lot of negative press if fans don't act as expected during silences/claps. That is not something the powers that be would allow to potentially happen and risk it being broadcast domestically and abroad.

I've absolutely no doubt that is the real reason why football, along with boxing, has been cancelled and less "risky" sports like Rugby and Cricket in England are continuing.

I find it difficult to believe football authorities weren't aware other sports were continuing and they just got it wrong. They'd have known fine we'll what the plan was for other professional sports, as they'd have undoubtedly asked the question.

The people involved at the top of running the game in Scotland might be amateurs, but they certainly aren't at the FA and EPL, they are smart switched on people who will know exactly what is going on.

At first I thought it was football making a daft decision but I think your spot on.

With the state of our media at the moment, and football fans always being in their cross hairs, you can guarantee that any issues in observing the minutes silence would have been jumped on immediately.

I'm still annoyed but I can increasingly see why they have done it but other sports haven't.

[Stairway 2 7]

Very interesting. 10 graphs showing the changing Britain in the queen's reign

https://www.ft.com/content/4ef98f0a-47c2-47e9-b93a-7e39f1d2a4d7?accessToken=zwAAAYMl8JW3kc9O-Y8KR8JH6dO5On458dKk1w.MEQCIDzu1dwgJXwZnjur47T6oyVT Z6DoVdFLEZSKcCkNyUg1AiAydyin_WPMtksQogxpAzJTPqiUYV I-eiNarXtDaP3y-A&segmentId=e95a9ae7-622c-6235-5f87-51e412b47e97&shareType=enterprise

[Jones28]

I saw one of these photo montage things on Twitter and it really brings home the reality that the queen was once a wee girl, much the same as my own, and no matter what circumstances surround it there’s a human aspect to all this.

There’s no place for nastiness when someone has died.

[hibbydog]

I saw one of these photo montage things on Twitter and it really brings home the reality that the queen was once a wee girl, much the same as my own, and no matter what circumstances surround it there’s a human aspect to all this.

There’s no place for nastiness when someone has died.

Yeah probs right. I remember a lot of the stuff when Maggie Thatcher died, it was really nasty and small minded.

I personally can’t stand the royal family, but I generally keep my mouth shut out of respect for those who have a different opinion.

[Mon Dieu4]

There's a woman on the BBC news describing Chas walking through the gates of Buckingham Palace like he was on stars in their eyes, she said she could actually see the transformation in him from Prince to King

I'm turning off the TV already, at first the historical nature of it all intrigued me a bit, now it's just professional grief and one upmanship

[Just_Jimmy]

There's a woman on the BBC news describing Chas walking through the gates of Buckingham Palace like he was on stars in their eyes, she said she could actually see the transformation in him from Prince to King

I'm turning off the TV already, at first the historical nature of it all intrigued me a bit, now it's just professional grief and one upmanshipI'm the same. At first I wanted to watch it wall to wall because of the size of it.

I lasted a bit of yesterday and I dipped back in but I'm wholly sick of it all already. I hope this doesn't go on wall to wall until next Monday.

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[Stairway 2 7]

I'm the same. At first I wanted to watch it wall to wall because of the size of it.

I lasted a bit of yesterday and I dipped back in but I'm wholly sick of it all already. I hope this doesn't go on wall to wall until next Monday.

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It probably will be on BBC news maybe bbc 1. I've not had them on so no idea. As far as I can see every channel is playing as normal bar bb1 and itv

[Killiehibbie]

Nothing is really being forced. The one thing most folk on here have in common is football. And football has decided to shut itself down which is absolutely ridiculous.

The wall to wall coverage doesn’t do anything for me but, in this day and age, it’s easy enough to find other things to watch.

Try being in a van with the radio for company. I think my old iPod will be coming out of retirement.

[hibsbollah]

Try being in a van with the radio for company. I think my old iPod will be coming out of retirement.

I’ve been able to chuckle about how ridiculous the coverage has been and not really let it bother me. But then again I’ve got Netflix and Amazon prime at home and Spotify for music and podcasts on the phone so I’ve got choices. Surely you could get a wee Bluetooth speaker for the van and even just listen to stuff on the iPlayer or whatever?

[Killiehibbie]

I’ve been able to chuckle about how ridiculous the coverage has been and not really let it bother me. But then again I’ve got Netflix and Amazon prime at home and Spotify for music and podcasts on the phone so I’ve got choices. Surely you could get a wee Bluetooth speaker for the van and even just listen to stuff on the iPlayer or whatever?

My work has offered counselling for anybody who needs it, a few more days and we might all need it

[neil7908]

So are we getting a day off for the funeral?

[Scorrie]

So are we getting a day off for the funeral?

We’re supposed to, Monday 19th I’ve read ?

[Pretty Boy]

There's a woman on the BBC news describing Chas walking through the gates of Buckingham Palace like he was on stars in their eyes, she said she could actually see the transformation in him from Prince to King

I'm turning off the TV already, at first the historical nature of it all intrigued me a bit, now it's just professional grief and one upmanship

I think by the same token some of the 'other side' has descended into one upsmanship and people deliberately trying to be the most outrageous.

For me Jeremy Corbyn captured it all perfectly in about 3 sentences. An ardent republican who was able to offer his condolences on a human level. No fawning over the institution, no implication the Queen was selected by a deity, no OTT platitudes. A simple tribute to a human who's company he had enjoyed on occasion. I'd also say Republic as a group have handled it well too, much to the ire of the empty vessels on Twitter who wanted blood of course.

[Zambernardi1875]

I can't but think people are being naive if they believe footballing authorities simply "misread" the situation.

Absolutely guaranteed there would have been, shall we say, pressure, behind closed doors from authorities in other areas of power for the games to be off. This whole thing has clearly been carefully controlled in the media and everyone knows that football has the powerkeg potential for a lot of negative press if fans don't act as expected during silences/claps. That is not something the powers that be would allow to potentially happen and risk it being broadcast domestically and abroad.

I've absolutely no doubt that is the real reason why football, along with boxing, has been cancelled and less "risky" sports like Rugby and Cricket in England are continuing.

I find it difficult to believe football authorities weren't aware other sports were continuing and they just got it wrong. They'd have known fine we'll what the plan was for other professional sports, as they'd have undoubtedly asked the question.

The people involved at the top of running the game in Scotland might be amateurs, but they certainly aren't at the FA and EPL, they are smart switched on people who will know exactly what is going on.

thats probably true, and decision cemented by hearts fans the other night. so we can blame them for football getting cancelled this weekend

[hibsbollah]

The accession council bit on tv at the moment is quite interesting. Partly because it looks exactly the same as in 1936 when George acceded. (Except for women being allowed in this time). The bits were being shown on the historical precedents and the machinations of power are worth watching, for a few minutes certainly.

[degenerated]

The accession council bit on tv at the moment is quite interesting. Partly because it looks exactly the same as in 1936 when George acceded. (Except for women being allowed in this time). The bits were being shown on the historical precedents and the machinations of power are worth watching, for a few minutes certainly.It's all a bit staunch with the church of Scotland stuff

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

It's all a bit staunch with the church of Scotland stuff

Every bit of that is completely irrelevant nowadays or at least should be.

[James310]

Nicola Sturgeon signing the proclamation, they must have asked her to do it seeing as the FM role is fairly new. Nice touch.

[Mon Dieu4]

Was hoping Sturgeon was going to use the opportunity to tell them all to get ****ed and announce Scotland is now a republic but I will settle for her drawing a cock on the papers instead

[Hiber-nation]

I was going to walk the dog but I'm actually finding all this quite fascinating.

[Colr]

Was hoping Sturgeon was going to use the opportunity to tell them all to get ****ed and announce Scotland is now a republic but I will settle for her drawing a cock on the papers instead

And we’re holding the body hostage until we get what we want!

[hibsbollah]

It's all a bit staunch with the church of Scotland stuff

But get this;

‘I take this opportunity to confirm my willingness and intention to continue the tradition of surrendering the hereditary revenues, including the crown estate to the government for the benefit of all in return for the sovereign grant which supports my official duties as head of state and head of nation.’

Loosely translated as
‘The land and monies my ancestors gained through right of war, empirical theft slavery and and conquest, and the Labour of all my subjects, I give the government access to, but I get to keep lots of it in the form of the grant, but it’s still really mine.’

This is what the French don’t have to put up with anymore.

[stokesmessiah]

Monday 19th declared as a public holiday.

[ronaldo7]

Monday 19th declared as a public holiday.

September week end always used to be. Nice to see it back.

[Mon Dieu4]

But get this;

‘I take this opportunity to confirm my willingness and intention to continue the tradition of surrendering the hereditary revenues, including the crown estate to the government for the benefit of all in return for the sovereign grant which supports my official duties as head of state and head of nation.’

Loosely translated as
‘The land and monies my ancestors gained through right of war, empirical theft slavery and and conquest, and the Labour of all my subjects, I give the government access to, but I get to keep lots of it in the form of the grant, but it’s still really mine.’

This is what the French don’t have to put up with anymore.

Did they not hand over all the crown estate in Scotland to the Scottish government but pull a fast one and not include their stake in Kinnaird Park then sell it for millions after?

[ronaldo7]

Did they not hand over all the crown estate in Scotland to the Scottish government but pull a fast one and not include their stake in Kinnaird Park then sell it for millions after?

It was only £167 million.

[Stairway 2 7]

Yaas extra days holiday

[hibsbollah]

Did they not hand over all the crown estate in Scotland to the Scottish government but pull a fast one and not include their stake in Kinnaird Park then sell it for millions after?

In my old job south of the border we had to do some work with the Crown Estate because they own(ed?) the entire sea bed around the English coast. But I believe it’s different up here, someone will know more than me.

[Pretty Boy]

Monday 19th declared as a public holiday.

Nice one.

I'll work it but I'm a bit short on holidays between now and January so a day in lieu will be useful.

[Stairway 2 7]

Nice one.

I'll work it but I'm a bit short on holidays between now and January so a day in lieu will be useful.

I'll go into work as it'll be nice and quiet and extra day a bonus

Is the funeral on Monday

[He's here!]

Monday 19th declared as a public holiday.

Perhaps those claiming to be so enraged by the disruption caused to their day-to-day lives by the Queen's passing should volunteer to work that day :wink:

[stokesmessiah]

Sorry, the alert I got said the 19th but the story says the day of her funeral. I would imagine the 19th would be a pretty good bet though.

[He's here!]

I can't but think people are being naive if they believe footballing authorities simply "misread" the situation.

Absolutely guaranteed there would have been, shall we say, pressure, behind closed doors from authorities in other areas of power for the games to be off. This whole thing has clearly been carefully controlled in the media and everyone knows that football has the powerkeg potential for a lot of negative press if fans don't act as expected during silences/claps. That is not something the powers that be would allow to potentially happen and risk it being broadcast domestically and abroad.

I've absolutely no doubt that is the real reason why football, along with boxing, has been cancelled and less "risky" sports like Rugby and Cricket in England are continuing.

I find it difficult to believe football authorities weren't aware other sports were continuing and they just got it wrong. They'd have known fine we'll what the plan was for other professional sports, as they'd have undoubtedly asked the question.

The people involved at the top of running the game in Scotland might be amateurs, but they certainly aren't at the FA and EPL, they are smart switched on people who will know exactly what is going on.

You certainly seem certain!

Why, then, have the SRU called off all domestic rugby this weekend? Hardly a powderkeg of anti-royalism. Horse racing was also suspended for more than two days.

I can't 'absolutely guarantee' it, but I think this decision is football's alone. With such a congested fixture list due to the World Cup the last thing they need is further disruption, but as far and away the biggest sport being played and watched across the UK this weekend I think it's pure and simple a gesture of respect. Sure, you couldn't hope to hold a minute's silence for the Queen at a Celtic game but I very much doubt there would have been much to worry about at the vast majority of clubs.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

I was off on 19th, it's a public holiday through here for NHS

[James310]

I was off on 19th, it's a public holiday through here for NHS

I think it's an Edinburgh holiday anyway as the schools were off already on the 19th. My daughter will be gutted as was hoping for another day off.

[He's here!]

Monday 19th declared as a public holiday.

That's already a public holiday (in Edinburgh at least):

Public holidays – The City of Edinburgh Council (https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/publicholidays#:~:text=Public%20holiday%20dates%20 2022.%201%20Monday%203%20January,10%20Monday%2019% 20September%20-%20Public%20Holiday.%20)

Does that mean folk already off work that day are entitled to an additional day off?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

And what about the people who’s only opportunity this weekend to see other people was the football?

That hole is getting deeper, stop digging.

[Hibbyradge]

That's already a public holiday (in Edinburgh at least):

Public holidays – The City of Edinburgh Council (https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/publicholidays#:~:text=Public%20holiday%20dates%20 2022.%201%20Monday%203%20January,10%20Monday%2019% 20September%20-%20Public%20Holiday.%20)

Does that mean folk already off work that day are entitled to an additional day off?

No. The protocol specifically says that if the funeral is on a weekend day or an existing PH, another day will not be granted.

[Callum_62]

What a tribute

Thank goodness we didn't disrespect the queen by playing football though [emoji106]

https://twitter.com/ichlugebullets/status/1568317330945343489?t=O6boLkhArbNQmiG6q2oavw&s=19

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[wookie70]

In my old job south of the border we had to do some work with the Crown Estate because they own(ed?) the entire sea bed around the English coast. But I believe it’s different up here, someone will know more than me.

Here is what I found. https://www.gov.scot/publications/land-reform-review-group-final-report-land-scotland-common-good/pages/26/#:~:text=The%20Crown's%20ownership%20of%20Scotland 's%20seabed%20and%20much%20of%20its,of%20Scotland% 20as%20ancient%20possessions.

Udal Law if far superior to Feudal

[degenerated]

What a tribute

Thank goodness we didn't disrespect the queen by playing football though [emoji106]

https://twitter.com/ichlugebullets/status/1568317330945343489?t=O6boLkhArbNQmiG6q2oavw&s=19

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He knows:greengrin

[He's here!]

No. The protocol specifically says that if the funeral is on a weekend day or an existing PH, another day will not be granted.

Really? It wont affect me, but I'd have thought if you have a contractual annual holiday entitlement and an additional public holiday is declared which falls on one of those days you have a case for an additional day?

[ronaldo7]

It was nice to see Charlie swear an oath of allegiance to the church of Scotland's independence in line with the claim of right that upholds the sovereignty of the people of Scotland.

Im sure we might see that used in the coming months.

[wookie70]

Really? It wont affect me, but I'd have thought if you have a contractual annual holiday entitlement and an additional public holiday is declared which falls on one of those days you have a case for an additional day?

My union won a similar argument over the Jubilee(part time workers) and will hope that is followed for this public holiday.

[ardecos]

No. The protocol specifically says that if the funeral is on a weekend day or an existing PH, another day will not be granted.

Have the funeral on Tuesday 20th, problem solved.