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theonlywayisup
27-02-2022, 06:20 AM
Anyone know what's the latest with this game? I hope that Ukraine are able to fulfil the fixture, but with so many Ukraine sportspersons saying that they will return to their homeland to fight it must be in doubt. I see that the Daily Record (I know) reporting that the Shakhtar boss has revealed his players could be called to fight Russia.
Also, assuming the game does go ahead, I wonder what show of support for Ukraine will be organised, either by the SFA or by the fans. One option could be to stop the game in the 30th minute to show support to the Ukraine nation. Why 30th minute - the Ukraine has been independent since 1991.
What else? Scotland and Ukraine fans march to Hampden together.
I know, when there are more important things to focus on, the above may appear to be unimportant. However, it would be great to show the Ukraine nation that we are thinking of them at this dark time in their history.
Sir David Gray
27-02-2022, 07:16 AM
Anyone know what's the latest with this game? I hope that Ukraine are able to fulfil the fixture, but with so many Ukraine sportspersons saying that they will return to their homeland to fight it must be in doubt. I see that the Daily Record (I know) reporting that the Shakhtar boss has revealed his players could be called to fight Russia.
Also, assuming the game does go ahead, I wonder what show of support for Ukraine will be organised, either by the SFA or by the fans. One option could be to stop the game in the 30th minute to show support to the Ukraine nation. Why 30th minute - the Ukraine has been independent since 1991.
What else? Scotland and Ukraine fans march to Hampden together.
I know, when there are more important things to focus on, the above may appear to be unimportant. However, it would be great to show the Ukraine nation that we are thinking of them at this dark time in their history.
This is the latest update that I've seen.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60538107
If the game does go ahead as planned, which I personally doubt at this stage, I think something from the fans is inevitable but I think the SFA might be less inclined to get involved (at least in an official capacity) in showing support for one side in a political dispute as I think UEFA/FIFA may take a dim view of that as silly as that may sound.
theonlywayisup
27-02-2022, 08:16 AM
This is the latest update that I've seen.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60538107
If the game does go ahead as planned, which I personally doubt at this stage, I think something from the fans is inevitable but I think the SFA might be less inclined to get involved (at least in an official capacity) in showing support for one side in a political dispute as I think UEFA/FIFA may take a dim view of that as silly as that may sound.
Yes, I think you are right, though don't know what would happen if both sets of footballers stopped in the 30th minute to clap showing support of a nation, a bit like the Hibs and Hearts players did for the young lad recently.
Keith_M
27-02-2022, 08:23 AM
I don't think there's any chance of this game going ahead as planned.
Onion
27-02-2022, 09:13 AM
This is the latest update that I've seen.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60538107
If the game does go ahead as planned, which I personally doubt at this stage, I think something from the fans is inevitable but I think the SFA might be less inclined to get involved (at least in an official capacity) in showing support for one side in a political dispute as I think UEFA/FIFA may take a dim view of that as silly as that may sound.
Everyone knows there's no chance of this game going ahead, but respectfully keeping it low profile as there are much more important matters to focus on atm.
tamig
27-02-2022, 02:54 PM
Everyone knows there's no chance of this game going ahead, but respectfully keeping it low profile as there are much more important matters to focus on atm.
Exactly. Should be the last thing on anyone’s mind at this moment. Very best wishes to every Ukraine national, not least those remaining in the homeland for the fight against evil.
The 90+2
27-02-2022, 02:57 PM
I don't think there's any chance of this game going ahead as planned.
If not I would like to see us play the winner of Wales v Austria and the winner of that game play Ukraine at a later date. Let them draw the WC with one of the team Wales Austria Scotland/Ukraine. In fact I would add another team to the World Cup on this occasion and give Ukraine automatic entry. They should in no way be penalized for the actions of Russia.
Is It On....
27-02-2022, 06:53 PM
Anyone know what's the latest with this game? I hope that Ukraine are able to fulfil the fixture, but with so many Ukraine sportspersons saying that they will return to their homeland to fight it must be in doubt. I see that the Daily Record (I know) reporting that the Shakhtar boss has revealed his players could be called to fight Russia.
Also, assuming the game does go ahead, I wonder what show of support for Ukraine will be organised, either by the SFA or by the fans. One option could be to stop the game in the 30th minute to show support to the Ukraine nation. Why 30th minute - the Ukraine has been independent since 1991.
What else? Scotland and Ukraine fans march to Hampden together.
I know, when there are more important things to focus on, the above may appear to be unimportant. However, it would be great to show the Ukraine nation that we are thinking of them at this dark time in their history.
I personally think Scotland should refuse to play and forfeit the game to Ukraine. Fwiw, I think the stand made by Poland, Czech Republic and Sweden is brilliant and, finally, any clubs in Europe that have games against Russian opposition should refuse to play them.
LunasBoots
27-02-2022, 06:56 PM
I'd be surprised if it goes ahead, is there not a few players in Ukraine who are effectively on the front line?
Lancs Harp
27-02-2022, 06:58 PM
I personally think Scotland should refuse to play and forfeit the game to Ukraine. Fwiw, I think the stand made by Poland, Czech Republic and Sweden is brilliant and, finally, any clubs in Europe that have games against Russian opposition should refuse to play them.
Think the English FA have announced tonight that no English team at any level will play Russian opposition until further notice.
Onceinawhile
27-02-2022, 07:02 PM
I'd be surprised if it goes ahead, is there not a few players in Ukraine who are effectively on the front line?
15 of their last squad play domestically. No male between 18-40 (roughly) is allowed to leave the country.
The game won't go ahead, but how that gets dealt with, I really don't know.
cabbageandribs1875
27-02-2022, 07:05 PM
I personally think Scotland should refuse to play and forfeit the game to Ukraine. Fwiw, I think the stand made by Poland, Czech Republic and Sweden is brilliant and, finally, any clubs in Europe that have games against Russian opposition should refuse to play them.
no, Scotland should NOT forfeit the game, not unless the next side to be drawn against Ukraine does the same...and so on, what has Scotland done wrong ?, besides, it would take Ukranian football fans minds off of events elsewhere, at least for a few hours. i really don't think it will take place to be honest
but if we were playing Russia...yes probably
green day
27-02-2022, 07:05 PM
I personally think Scotland should refuse to play and forfeit the game to Ukraine. Fwiw, I think the stand made by Poland, Czech Republic and Sweden is brilliant and, finally, any clubs in Europe that have games against Russian opposition should refuse to play them.
What about Austria and Wales? Should they just step aside too?
Is It On....
27-02-2022, 07:08 PM
Think the English FA have announced tonight that no English team at any level will play Russian opposition until further notice.
"Fifa has ordered Russia to complete their upcoming matches without their flag, anthem and as the Football Union of Russia in neutral territory". Well done to the English FA (not something I have ever said before) but FIFA are still trying to abdicate their responsibilities with this pathetic announcement I just hope that everyone stands firm and not compete against Russia in whatever guise FIFA tries to sneak them through.
Is It On....
27-02-2022, 07:11 PM
What about Austria and Wales? Should they just step aside too?
I do not believe we should be competing in any competition with Russia (or whatever they call themselves) in it.
CapitalGreen
27-02-2022, 07:19 PM
"Fifa has ordered Russia to complete their upcoming matches without their flag, anthem and as the Football Union of Russia in neutral territory". Well done to the English FA (not something I have ever said before) but FIFA are still trying to abdicate their responsibilities with this pathetic announcement I just hope that everyone stands firm and not compete against Russia in whatever guise FIFA tries to sneak them through.
Pathetic response from FIFA. Hopefully, more nations follow the lead of the English FA and Russia’s potential play off opponents.
Paul1642
27-02-2022, 07:20 PM
I personally think Scotland should refuse to play and forfeit the game to Ukraine. Fwiw, I think the stand made by Poland, Czech Republic and Sweden is brilliant and, finally, any clubs in Europe that have games against Russian opposition should refuse to play them.
Crazy suggestion. We have worked hard to get a shot at our first word cup in a generation and should not, and will not, be giving that up without playing for it. We should do everything we can to accommodate the Ukrainians and hopefully FIFA and help us come to a solution that works. I can’t see how our game can go ahead as planned meaning that the winners game against Austria or Wales needs moved.
Paul1642
27-02-2022, 07:27 PM
If not I would like to see us play the winner of Wales v Austria and the winner of that game play Ukraine at a later date. Let them draw the WC with one of the team Wales Austria Scotland/Ukraine. In fact I would add another team to the World Cup on this occasion and give Ukraine automatic entry. They should in no way be penalized for the actions of Russia.
Should every country on earth that gets invaded get entry into the next word cup?
green day
27-02-2022, 07:29 PM
I do not believe we should be competing in any competition with Russia (or whatever they call themselves) in it.
Call me crazy, but it might be simpler to expel Russia rather than the mental gymnastics required for all other options.........
Is It On....
27-02-2022, 07:30 PM
Pathetic response from FIFA. Hopefully, more nations follow the lead of the English FA and Russia’s potential play off opponents.
Polish football association president Cezary Kulesza said Fifa's decision was "totally unacceptable".
"We are not interested in participating in this game of appearances. Our stance remains intact: Polish National Team will not play with Russia, no matter what the name of the team is," he said.
Fantastic response from Poland.
Iggy Pope
27-02-2022, 07:31 PM
Should every country on earth that gets invaded get entry into the next word cup?
If countries on earth continue to get invaded there shouldn’t ever be a world ****ing cup.
The 90+2
27-02-2022, 07:32 PM
Should every country on earth that gets invaded get entry into the next word cup?
Only ones that get invaded while in the playoff position to reach the WC and because of that are unlikely to leave said invaded country.
The 90+2
27-02-2022, 07:33 PM
If countries on earth continue to get invaded there shouldn’t ever be a world ****ing cup.
Won't. :wink:
Is It On....
27-02-2022, 07:33 PM
Call me crazy, but it might be simpler to expel Russia rather than the mental gymnastics required for all other options.........
Let's see what the corrupt organisation that is FIFA actually do. Personally I think Poland may force their hand.
green day
27-02-2022, 07:34 PM
I think it's time to get rid of FIFA, start again with a new tournament that guarantees Scotland qualification.
The 90+2
27-02-2022, 07:35 PM
Polish football association president Cezary Kulesza said Fifa's decision was "totally unacceptable".
"We are not interested in participating in this game of appearances. Our stance remains intact: Polish National Team will not play with Russia, no matter what the name of the team is," he said.
Fantastic response from Poland.
Chuck Russia and their national side in the bin man. They already bribed Fifa enough to get their World Cup. **** them. Anyone who votes for Putin, for whatever reason can get to France (or maybe not).
Iggy Pope
27-02-2022, 07:35 PM
Won't. :wink:
No, shouldn’t. I’m not the law. :wink:
The 90+2
27-02-2022, 07:35 PM
I think it's time to get rid of FIFA, start again with a new tournament that guarantees Scotland qualification.
We haven't enough money as a nation to make that happen.
The 90+2
27-02-2022, 07:36 PM
No, shouldn’t. I’m not the law. :wink:
:greengrin:greengrin
Paul1642
27-02-2022, 07:37 PM
If countries on earth continue to get invaded there shouldn’t ever be a world ****ing cup.
Wikipedia (not necessarily the most reliable source) documents over 100 counties having been invaded since the end of WW2. The Ukrainian situation is truly horrible and I sympathise with all involved but it’s not going to stop the World Cup.
DIXIHIBS
27-02-2022, 07:43 PM
The corruption at FIFA rearing its ugly head again. Not fit for purpose. The fact they gave it to Qatar as well is so wrong. Would love all teams to tell them to ram the world cup this time round. Never happen but would show FIFA what the football world thinks of them.
Iggy Pope
27-02-2022, 07:43 PM
Wikipedia (not necessarily the most reliable source) documents over 100 counties having been invaded since the end of WW2. The Ukrainian situation is truly horrible and I sympathise with all involved but it’s not going to stop the World Cup.
Oh good!
Sir David Gray
27-02-2022, 07:46 PM
Think the English FA have announced tonight that no English team at any level will play Russian opposition until further notice.
Yes English international teams, although not necessarily English clubs.
theonlywayisup
06-03-2022, 06:24 PM
Looks like it'll be pushed back to June.
UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin has confirmed Scotland's World Cup play-off with Ukraine will be delayed until June, Shakhtar Donetsk's director of football Darijo Srna has revealed.
Ukraine officially requested a postponement of the Hampden semi-final showdown scheduled for two weeks on Thursday after Russia invaded their country, with their domestic league suspended indefinitely.
UEFA and FIFA are expected to make their final decision in the coming days about Scotland's clash with Ukraine and Wales' home tie against Austria, with the winners due to face each other for a place at the Qatar finals.
Ceferin personally intervened to allow many of Ukraine's international home-based players and foreign stars based in Ukraine safe passage to his home country of Slovenia.
Srna, who was capped 134 times by Croatia, contacted Ceferin for help in getting his players to safety.
And he's revealed UEFA and FIFA have already decided to move Scotland's game back to June.
He said: "I spoke with UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin again today. He has stood up for Ukrainian football.
"I understand that no one cares about football now, but he told me that the match between Ukraine and Scotland will be postponed to June.
"In addition, there will be a special transfer window set up to allow players based in Ukraine a temporary transfer to allow them to get back playing football.
"I contacted him when war broke out to ask for help. He personally helped to organise a train to get the players out of the country.
"He promised he would help the players and he has been as good as his word.
Sir David Gray
06-03-2022, 07:11 PM
Looks like it'll be pushed back to June.
UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin has confirmed Scotland's World Cup play-off with Ukraine will be delayed until June, Shakhtar Donetsk's director of football Darijo Srna has revealed.
Ukraine officially requested a postponement of the Hampden semi-final showdown scheduled for two weeks on Thursday after Russia invaded their country, with their domestic league suspended indefinitely.
UEFA and FIFA are expected to make their final decision in the coming days about Scotland's clash with Ukraine and Wales' home tie against Austria, with the winners due to face each other for a place at the Qatar finals.
Ceferin personally intervened to allow many of Ukraine's international home-based players and foreign stars based in Ukraine safe passage to his home country of Slovenia.
Srna, who was capped 134 times by Croatia, contacted Ceferin for help in getting his players to safety.
And he's revealed UEFA and FIFA have already decided to move Scotland's game back to June.
He said: "I spoke with UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin again today. He has stood up for Ukrainian football.
"I understand that no one cares about football now, but he told me that the match between Ukraine and Scotland will be postponed to June.
"In addition, there will be a special transfer window set up to allow players based in Ukraine a temporary transfer to allow them to get back playing football.
"I contacted him when war broke out to ask for help. He personally helped to organise a train to get the players out of the country.
"He promised he would help the players and he has been as good as his word.
I fully support anything that will help the Ukrainians fulfil this fixture, as I've said before though I don't know what a postponement of a few weeks is really going to achieve.
I highly doubt they'll be in a position to play in three months' time either, although UEFA really had no option but to accept the request given the circumstances.
Hopefully I'm wrong though and we can look forward to a great game in June.
SteveHFC
07-03-2022, 11:37 PM
Game postponed.
Wales-Austria also being moved.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60650445
JimBHibees
08-03-2022, 05:35 AM
Game postponed.
Wales-Austria also being moved.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60650445
Does it confirm Wales Austria being moved? Thought it just mentioned the final being moved
Sir David Gray
08-03-2022, 06:57 AM
Does it confirm Wales Austria being moved? Thought it just mentioned the final being moved
Yes that's correct. Wales v Austria is going ahead as planned but the final will obviously need to be moved due to the postponement of Scotland v Ukraine.
He's here!
08-03-2022, 06:58 AM
I do not believe we should be competing in any competition with Russia (or whatever they call themselves) in it.
On the subject of problematic nations I'm far from comfortable with the World Cup taking place in Qatar in the first place. Wouldn't be too bothered if it got abandoned.
easty
08-03-2022, 07:32 AM
FIFA have also announced a special transfer window, for one month til 7th April. Foreign players based in Ukraine and Russia can now move.
I dunno if that’s maybe something we would look at?
The Spaceman
08-03-2022, 07:53 AM
It is completely unrealistic to expect the Ukrainian players to be remotely in a headspace to fulfil this fixture, even if by some miracle this game can go ahead (it won’t).
Scotland probably can’t forfeit it, as that then sets a precedent - every other team, in fairness, would have to do the same, making Ukraine WC winners. I actually wouldn’t mind that one bit to be fair. Solution IMO is to expand the World Cup by the 4 European teams in question and postpone it until next year.
Mikey
08-03-2022, 08:06 AM
I wonder if Scotland will arrange an alternative fixture for March 24th.
On a personal level I've paid up front for flights and hotel for the Nations League game in Dublin in June. If I end up watching the World Cup play off game in a bar in Dublin I'll be sending Putin the bill.
MartinfaePorty
08-03-2022, 08:15 AM
I wonder if Scotland will arrange an alternative fixture for March 24th.
On a personal level I've paid up front for flights and hotel for the Nations League game in Dublin in June. If I end up watching the World Cup play off game in a bar in Dublin I'll be sending Putin the bill.
I've booked up for that trip as well, but surely that game must be in doubt if they're talking about playing the semi-final on the 4th June and the final on the 7th?
Mikey
08-03-2022, 08:26 AM
The 4th and the 7th for the World Cup games and the 11th in Dublin would probably work.
Caversham Green
08-03-2022, 08:30 AM
I wonder if Scotland will arrange an alternative fixture for March 24th.
On a personal level I've paid up front for flights and hotel for the Nations League game in Dublin in June. If I end up watching the World Cup play off game in a bar in Dublin I'll be sending Putin the bill.
I think we should make it an event in support of all victims of the war (bearing in mind that it isn't a war according to Russia). Something like Scotland vs Scotland/UK based rest of the world select (playing in Ukraine's colours). The football probably wouldn't be great but that shouldn't really matter.
JamesHFC
08-03-2022, 06:19 PM
Wales v Austria goes ahead this month confirmed.
WhileTheChief..
08-03-2022, 06:58 PM
It is completely unrealistic to expect the Ukrainian players to be remotely in a headspace to fulfil this fixture, even if by some miracle this game can go ahead (it won’t).
Scotland probably can’t forfeit it, as that then sets a precedent - every other team, in fairness, would have to do the same, making Ukraine WC winners. I actually wouldn’t mind that one bit to be fair. Solution IMO is to expand the World Cup by the 4 European teams in question and postpone it until next year.
I'd love to see this happen.
As for Russia, they should be banned indefinitely from every sporting event on the planet.
Mikey
08-03-2022, 07:15 PM
Have Poland been given a bye or will they play someone else? If they're free then they might be friendly opponents on the 24th at Hampden.
Sir David Gray
08-03-2022, 07:20 PM
Have Poland been given a bye or will they play someone else? If they're free then they might be friendly opponents on the 24th at Hampden.
They've been given a bye and Scotland are planning to play a friendly on 24th March and then against the loser of Austria v Wales on 29th March so yeah a game v Poland on 24th could be possible.
SteveHFC
08-03-2022, 07:21 PM
They've been given a bye and Scotland are planning to play a friendly on 24th March and then against the loser of Austria v Wales on 29th March so yeah a game v Poland on 24th could be possible.
Just play Israel again as we are due a fixture against them.
Stairway 2 7
08-03-2022, 07:35 PM
Scotland Poland with proceeds to Ukraine would go down well, anyone got the tash's number
Onion
08-03-2022, 07:51 PM
It is completely unrealistic to expect the Ukrainian players to be remotely in a headspace to fulfil this fixture, even if by some miracle this game can go ahead (it won’t).
Scotland probably can’t forfeit it, as that then sets a precedent - every other team, in fairness, would have to do the same, making Ukraine WC winners. I actually wouldn’t mind that one bit to be fair. Solution IMO is to expand the World Cup by the 4 European teams in question and postpone it until next year.
Applies to Scotland too. Their heads would be scrambled playing against a Ukraine Xi, with no way to come out winners whatever the result.
We stand with Ukraine !
Bristolhibby
08-03-2022, 07:59 PM
FIFA have also announced a special transfer window, for one month til 7th April. Foreign players based in Ukraine and Russia can now move.
I dunno if that’s maybe something we would look at?
Ukrainian men cannot leave the country. Don’t see how this will help them in the slightest, they have much more important things on their mind.
J
Bristolhibby
08-03-2022, 08:07 PM
The 4th and the 7th for the World Cup games and the 11th in Dublin would probably work.
Backed up by this
https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/irelands-nations-league-clashes-with-ukraine-and-scotland-to-be-rescheduled-due-to-world-cup-play-off-41424993.html?fbclid=IwAR3D5U5iK6rBDNgi3cK4PR_jqKZ dO6IVOzdu0NNZbhghluaH_NHXXkJmGz4
Hulk1875
08-03-2022, 09:18 PM
Cancel the shambles of the Qatar World Cup
Hulk1875
08-03-2022, 09:19 PM
Should never been awarded or played there, least exciting World Cup in history
Frazerbob
08-03-2022, 09:57 PM
Should never been awarded or played there, least exciting World Cup in history
I follow Scotland home and away and couldn't agree more. Absolutely no interest in this World Cup.
Nakedmanoncrack
09-03-2022, 09:10 AM
I follow Scotland home and away and couldn't agree more. Absolutely no interest in this World Cup.
Serious question, why bother then?
WeeRussell
09-03-2022, 10:15 AM
Serious question, why bother then?
I think that’s fairly obvious that generally he (and others including me) love supporting Scotland and find the games and the trips away brilliant occasions.
But the idea of the World Cup being played in Qatar doesn’t sit well with him and he probably doesn’t want to go there.
Surely it’s not a serious question asking why bother following Scotland because he doesn’t agree with the w/c being in Qatar?
Nakedmanoncrack
09-03-2022, 10:22 AM
I think that’s fairly obvious that generally he (and others including me) love supporting Scotland and find the games and the trips away brilliant occasions.
But the idea of the World Cup being played in Qatar doesn’t sit well with him and he probably doesn’t want to go there.
Surely it’s not a serious question asking why bother following Scotland because he doesn’t agree with the w/c being in Qatar?
I suggest you read what he said, 'no interest in this World Cup', and not simply that he disagreed with the hosting location.
Frazerbob
09-03-2022, 10:42 AM
I suggest you read what he said, 'no interest in this World Cup', and not simply that he disagreed with the hosting location.
Apologies, I’ll clarify. I have no interest in THIS World Cup due to where it is being hosted. Other than that, the post above perfectly answers your question, why bother?
WeeRussell
09-03-2022, 11:37 AM
I suggest you read what he said, 'no interest in this World Cup', and not simply that he disagreed with the hosting location.
I suggest I did read it, and thought only someone looking to pick something out of nothing would deliberately not understand what he meant. Due to the widely publicised reasons, he’s been put off of the World Cup this year because of where it’s being hosted.
In any case, maybe he isn’t ‘bothering’ this year.
Nakedmanoncrack
09-03-2022, 12:01 PM
Apologies, I’ll clarify. I have no interest in THIS World Cup due to where it is being hosted. Other than that, the post above perfectly answers your question, why bother?
So not attended any of the qualifiers?
Nakedmanoncrack
09-03-2022, 12:06 PM
I suggest I did read it, and thought only someone looking to pick something out of nothing would deliberately not understand what he meant. Due to the widely publicised reasons, he’s been put off of the World Cup this year because of where it’s being hosted.
In any case, maybe he isn’t ‘bothering’ this year.
I'd suggest you are an angry wee man looking to argue!
Whatever makes you happy👍🏻
WeeRussell
09-03-2022, 12:17 PM
I'd suggest you are an angry wee man looking to argue!
Whatever makes you happy👍🏻
Of course, that’s it.
I’m not having the ‘wee’ though. I’m a fat ba****d I’ll have you know 😁
Caversham Green
09-03-2022, 04:32 PM
That saying about a pot and a kettle springs to mind here.
SteveHFC
10-03-2022, 07:53 PM
Apparently playing Poland at Hampden in 2 weeks time.
theonlywayisup
10-03-2022, 07:59 PM
Scotland Poland with proceeds to Ukraine would go down well, anyone got the tash's number from two days ago
Apparently playing Poland at Hampden in 2 weeks time.
:hmmm:
from two days ago
:hmmm:
Still not confirmed though
Sir David Gray
14-03-2022, 04:52 PM
Scotland v Poland on 24/03 confirmed.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12017/12566006/scotland-vs-poland-friendly-to-take-place-at-hampden-park-on-march-24
hibbyfraelibby
14-03-2022, 04:58 PM
I'd suggest you are an angry wee man looking to argue!
Whatever makes you happy👍🏻
***Pedantry Alert***
How can an angry wee man be made "happy".
Surely it should be "whatever makes you angriest"?
SteveHFC
14-03-2022, 04:59 PM
Scotland v Poland on 24/03 confirmed.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12017/12566006/scotland-vs-poland-friendly-to-take-place-at-hampden-park-on-march-24
Should be a good test. Looking forward to it.
SFA need to get the ticket pricss out soon.
jgl07
14-03-2022, 05:25 PM
Ukrainian men cannot leave the country. Don’t see how this will help them in the slightest, they have much more important things on their mind.
J
There are plenty of non-Ukrainians playing (or rather not playing) in Ukraine and loads of non-Russians playing in Russia.
Speedy
14-03-2022, 07:00 PM
Should be a good test. Looking forward to it.
SFA need to get the ticket pricss out soon.
£20-£25 for members. £10 going to Unicef.
Allant1981
15-03-2022, 03:31 PM
4 left backs in the squad, mental, although tierney will no doubt play CH
Billy Whizz
15-03-2022, 03:42 PM
4 left backs in the squad, mental, although tierney will no doubt play CH
Hickey can play right back. Remember they are friendlies and it gives Clarke an opportunity to play a few different players
JimBHibees
15-03-2022, 03:43 PM
Hickey can play right back. Remember they are friendlies and it gives Clarke an opportunity to play a few different players
Yep provides a good option on that side
Allant1981
15-03-2022, 04:08 PM
Hickey can play right back. Remember they are friendlies and it gives Clarke an opportunity to play a few different players
He hasnt really picked different players apart from hickey as far as i can see, if its an opportunity to play different players then he should be at least doing it
Billy Whizz
15-03-2022, 04:15 PM
He hasnt really picked different players apart from hickey as far as i can see, if its an opportunity to play different players then he should be at least doing it
What I meant is he doesn’t have to play 1st picks like Tierney/Robertson etc in both games
He can give some of the other squad members game time, see how they shape up
Ringothedog
15-03-2022, 07:04 PM
Has anyone purchased a ticket for the Poland game and received the email with the tickets yet?
Steven79
15-03-2022, 07:05 PM
Has anyone purchased a ticket for the Poland game and received the email with the tickets yet?
Either re send the tickets or check in junk folder.
Ringothedog
15-03-2022, 07:07 PM
Either re send the tickets or check in junk folder.
Got them, cheers
Mikey
15-03-2022, 07:09 PM
Has anyone purchased a ticket for the Poland game and received the email with the tickets yet?
Yep, got them right away.
Ringothedog
15-03-2022, 07:10 PM
Yep, got them right away.
Tried again and got them, who knows what happened originally.
JimBHibees
21-03-2022, 03:30 PM
Is it correct Craig Halkett has been brought into the squad? Surely not Porto is 4 times the player that huddy is? Obviously a benefit of being based at Oriam.
A Hi-Bee
21-03-2022, 03:36 PM
Without going through the whole thread it is very sad, that many of the players who may have played for Ukraine may well have taken up arms to try and protect the land that they represent, by the time any game is played.
Kind of puts football in perspective as far as I am concerned, I also have very little interest in this World Cup even if Scotland was to end up there.
SteveHFC
21-03-2022, 04:43 PM
Over 33,000 tickets been sold for Thursday.
:top marks
JimBHibees
21-03-2022, 09:21 PM
Over 33,000 tickets been sold for Thursday.
:top marks
That is excellent
cabbageandribs1875
12-04-2022, 02:17 PM
Friendly with Poland raised £500k for Unicef :aok:
Ukraine conflict: Scottish FA 'overwhelmed' as Poland friendly raises £500,000 for UNICEF - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61080489)
The Scottish FA says it is "overwhelmed" by the generosity of fans after the March friendly against Poland (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60775104) raised £500,000 to help the children of war-torn Ukraine.
A crowd of 39,090 attended the 1-1 draw at Hampden Park, with £10 donated from each ticket to UNICEF's appeal.
Further cash was raised through text donations plus contributions from some of the SFA's commercial partners.
theonlywayisup
12-04-2022, 08:00 PM
Friendly with Poland raised £500k for Unicef :aok:
Ukraine conflict: Scottish FA 'overwhelmed' as Poland friendly raises £500,000 for UNICEF - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61080489)
The Scottish FA says it is "overwhelmed" by the generosity of fans after the March friendly against Poland (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60775104) raised £500,000 to help the children of war-torn Ukraine.
A crowd of 39,090 attended the 1-1 draw at Hampden Park, with £10 donated from each ticket to UNICEF's appeal.
Further cash was raised through text donations plus contributions from some of the SFA's commercial partners.
Pretty impressive that! :applause::applause::applause:
SteveHFC
14-04-2022, 02:09 PM
Game to be played on the 1st of June. Final taking place on the 5th of June.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQTxWYZVkAYZYDy?format=jpg&name=small
Some of the Nations League games have been moved too.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQT1Z_xUYAIax_0?format=jpg&name=small
Onceinawhile
14-04-2022, 02:19 PM
Are they sure 6 weeks will be enough?
Though I think two or three of the teams from Ukraine are training out of the country at the moment.
Going to be a much tougher match now than it would've been without the war I reckon.
Steven79
14-04-2022, 02:36 PM
Are they sure 6 weeks will be enough?
Though I think two or three of the teams from Ukraine are training out of the country at the moment.
Going to be a much tougher match now than it would've been without the war I reckon.
Yeah same here, I think fancy our chances much are they will be well up for it.
JamesHFC
14-04-2022, 04:23 PM
Are they sure 6 weeks will be enough?
Though I think two or three of the teams from Ukraine are training out of the country at the moment.
Going to be a much tougher match now than it would've been without the war I reckon.
I read yesterday that the Ukrainian FA have confirmed the players will join up for a training camp in Western Europe at the end of this month, they are planning on playing France and someone else in a friendly before the Semi Final.
where'stheslope
14-04-2022, 05:58 PM
Can't believe they expect Scotland to play 5 games in 14 days going by the fixtures above.
Full time Clubs would be complaining about that amount of games, and they've not got all the travel to go with it????
Sir David Gray
14-04-2022, 06:23 PM
Can't believe they expect Scotland to play 5 games in 14 days going by the fixtures above.
Full time Clubs would be complaining about that amount of games, and they've not got all the travel to go with it????
Yeah it's a tough schedule, only saving grace is that all matches except the trip to Armenia would be held in the British Isles so not too much travelling involved.
cabbageandribs1875
29-04-2022, 09:03 PM
Ukraine will play German Bundesliga club Borussia Monchengladbach on 11 May in preparation for their football World Cup play-off semi-final against Scotland.
The friendly at Borussia-Park will be Ukraine men's first game since their country was invaded by Russia.
All profits from the match will be donated to Ukrainian charities.
Ukraine last played in November, winning 2-0 away to Bosnia-Herzegovina to secure their place in the World Cup play-offs.
Scotland host Ukraine at Hampden Park in Glasgow on 1 June, with the winner progressing to the final against Wales in Cardiff four days later.
theonlywayisup
21-05-2022, 06:09 AM
Wearing the message United for Ukraine on their shirts, Ukraine’s national men’s team won its second straight friendly since the Russian invasion by beating Italian Serie A club Empoli 3-1. Having also beaten German club Borussia Moenchengladbach last week in their first game back, Ukraine’s national team players are attempting to get fit ahead of a crucial World Cup qualifying playoff against Scotland next month.
The numbers on the back of Ukraine players’ shirts against Empoli were composed of the names of the country’s cities that have been under attack since Russian troops invaded on February 24.
Ukraine next plays Croatian club Rijeka. EDIT - just noticed that the game was on 18th May and ended 1-1.
I think our game against Ukraine is going to be very difficult. Under normal circumstances, I was confident that we would progress as the game is being played at Hampden. Now, I'm not that confident. Ukraine have some pretty decent players and the pride they have in their country will make them very difficult to beat.
theonlywayisup
23-05-2022, 11:27 AM
I'm assuming that the squad will be announced today, especially as the next game is next Wednesday. Media suggesting that it's going to be quite a large squad as we've five games (hopefully) including the Nations League games to play in a short time period.
World Cup 2022: Steve Clarke's most important Scotland squad selection yet? - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61523330)
Billy Whizz
23-05-2022, 11:29 AM
I'm assuming that the squad will be announced today, especially as the next game is next Wednesday. Media suggesting that it's going to be quite a large squad as we've five games (hopefully) including the Nations League games to play in a short time period.
World Cup 2022: Steve Clarke's most important Scotland squad selection yet? - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61523330)
4pm today
JimBHibees
23-05-2022, 01:15 PM
4pm today
Think it will be a huge squad as the big teams won't want their players playing all games. Can see a very much reduced squad away to Armenia
Hibernian Verse
23-05-2022, 01:25 PM
I haven't had my tickets yet. Any idea when they're being sent out?
04Sauzee
23-05-2022, 01:37 PM
David Marshall in the squad .
Broken Gnome
23-05-2022, 01:56 PM
Tierney out is a hell of a blow. Bugger.
Mikey
23-05-2022, 01:57 PM
I haven't had my tickets yet. Any idea when they're being sent out?
I'm not sure they are, I reckon you should have received them by email to print out or scan. Check your confirmation email.
Hibernian Verse
23-05-2022, 01:59 PM
I'm not sure they are, I reckon you should have received them by email to print out or scan. Check your confirmation email.
Found them in my inbox from way back in February
SteveHFC
23-05-2022, 02:18 PM
Tierney out is a hell of a blow. Bugger.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/InfantilePalatableDore-max-1mb.gif
Lendo
23-05-2022, 02:33 PM
Never heard of Jacob Brown before. Is he good?
number9dream
23-05-2022, 02:34 PM
Tierney out is a hell of a blow. Bugger.
Hellish news, but not unexpected. We may well have O'Donnell starting against Ukraine too.
Will Steve Clarke want to crowbar McTominay into the back three again with Hanley? McKenna and Cooper are lefties but don't offer anything like what KT does.
McKenna playing in Forest's play-off final just a few days before the game - or will he chuck Souttar in after one game in months?
Sir David Gray
23-05-2022, 04:17 PM
Tierney out is a hell of a blow. Bugger.
Dreadful.
Never heard of Jacob Brown before. Is he good?
He's already played for us. Away to Moldova and another. Done well at Stoke this season.
Turkish Green
23-05-2022, 06:51 PM
Never heard of Jacob Brown before. Is he good?
Like most of Clarke's squad he was born in Yorkshire.
Turkish Green
23-05-2022, 06:55 PM
He's already played for us. Away to Moldova and another. Done well at Stoke this season.
A 5 minutes and a 1 minute.
Frazerbob
23-05-2022, 07:22 PM
Like most of Clarke's squad he was born in Yorkshire.
Really? Names please.
WeeRussell
23-05-2022, 08:19 PM
Really? Names please.
Liam Cooper is the only other one I can think of.
Very strange comment.
Smartie
23-05-2022, 08:21 PM
Looks like the last train back to Edinburgh is 10:15 on that night on the new timetable.
Might be worth remembering for anyone from these parts who - like me - are planning on going to the game.
Hermit Crab
23-05-2022, 08:25 PM
Looks like the last train back to Edinburgh is 10:15 on that night on the new timetable.
Might be worth remembering for anyone from the parts who - like me - is planning on going to the game.
It is, from Queen Street. No way fans will make that train unless they leave the game very early. If its goes to ET and Pen theres no way back by train.
SteveHFC
23-05-2022, 08:25 PM
Looks like the last train back to Edinburgh is 10:15 on that night on the new timetable.
Might be worth remembering for anyone from the parts who - like me - is planning on going to the game.
Still hoping they put on extra trains for after the game.
Going to be chaos next Wednesday.
Hermit Crab
23-05-2022, 08:27 PM
Still hoping they put on extra trains for after the game.
Going to be chaos next Wednesday.
Unlikely because the emergency timetable is in place because theres not enough drivers and they are not working overtime either so they won't have enough staff to provide any extra services.
Frazerbob
23-05-2022, 09:28 PM
Still hoping they put on extra trains for after the game.
Going to be chaos next Wednesday.
Meetings tomorrow apparently. Surely some solution can be found. Utter shambles cancelling the late trains.
JimBHibees
23-05-2022, 09:44 PM
Like most of Clarke's squad he was born in Yorkshire.
Wtf :greengrin
Nakedmanoncrack
24-05-2022, 08:11 PM
Looks like the last train back to Edinburgh is 10:15 on that night on the new timetable.
Might be worth remembering for anyone from these parts who - like me - are planning on going to the game.
I would advise anyone thinking of going by train to make other arrangements, you won't get back to Edinburgh.
I'm staying in Glasgow now, booked a hotel & was surprised to find some decent ones available at fairly reasonable prices.
SteveHFC
25-05-2022, 07:42 PM
More tickets on sale from 10am tomorrow.
He's here!
25-05-2022, 09:00 PM
International football doesn't mean a great deal to me these days but I'll be lending my support to Ukraine on this occasion. Having watched some of their fans talking about what it would mean for the country to reach a World Cup I can live without Scotland being there. Not such a big deal in light of the bigger picture.
overdrive
25-05-2022, 09:01 PM
I would advise anyone thinking of going by train to make other arrangements, you won't get back to Edinburgh.
I'm staying in Glasgow now, booked a hotel & was surprised to find some decent ones available at fairly reasonable prices.
That’s what we’ve done too.
JimBHibees
25-05-2022, 09:26 PM
International football doesn't mean a great deal to me these days but I'll be lending my support to Ukraine on this occasion. Having watched some of their fans talking about what it would mean for the country to reach a World Cup I can live without Scotland being there. Not such a big deal in light of the bigger picture.
Are you Scottish?
Mark05
25-05-2022, 09:33 PM
International football doesn't mean a great deal to me these days but I'll be lending my support to Ukraine on this occasion. Having watched some of their fans talking about what it would mean for the country to reach a World Cup I can live without Scotland being there. Not such a big deal in light of the bigger picture.
I have all the sympathy in the world for Ukraine,and I would love them to be at the world cup.But I haven't seen Scotland at the world cup since 1998,its been a very long time so I will be putting my sympathy for Ukraine to one side for the game.Its going to be a tough night for obvious reasons but I think Scotland can do it
SteveHFC
25-05-2022, 09:42 PM
International football doesn't mean a great deal to me these days but I'll be lending my support to Ukraine on this occasion. Having watched some of their fans talking about what it would mean for the country to reach a World Cup I can live without Scotland being there. Not such a big deal in light of the bigger picture.
Hope we beat them next Wednesday.
jgl07
25-05-2022, 10:30 PM
I would advise anyone thinking of going by train to make other arrangements, you won't get back.
Are there no 900 buses running from Buchanan Street?
Brummie_Hibs
25-05-2022, 10:50 PM
International football doesn't mean a great deal to me these days but I'll be lending my support to Ukraine on this occasion. Having watched some of their fans talking about what it would mean for the country to reach a World Cup I can live without Scotland being there. Not such a big deal in light of the bigger picture.
Fishing troll
Ignore
SteveHFC
26-05-2022, 11:19 AM
https://news.stv.tv/sport/tartan-army-to-be-handed-ukrainian-anthem-lyrics-in-bid-for-show-of-solidarity-ahead-of-world-cup-play-off?fbclid=IwAR3W5d9y5I8L6VXQx9yZU_pvinVMw4ecP2ZO9 VHweqQQ3cjnZkFW6BiRgE8
What’s everyone thoughts on this? A bit too far?
Smartie
26-05-2022, 11:22 AM
https://news.stv.tv/sport/tartan-army-to-be-handed-ukrainian-anthem-lyrics-in-bid-for-show-of-solidarity-ahead-of-world-cup-play-off?fbclid=IwAR3W5d9y5I8L6VXQx9yZU_pvinVMw4ecP2ZO9 VHweqQQ3cjnZkFW6BiRgE8
What’s everyone thoughts on this? A bit too far?
Does anyone know the tune?
Fuzzywuzzy
26-05-2022, 11:24 AM
https://news.stv.tv/sport/tartan-army-to-be-handed-ukrainian-anthem-lyrics-in-bid-for-show-of-solidarity-ahead-of-world-cup-play-off?fbclid=IwAR3W5d9y5I8L6VXQx9yZU_pvinVMw4ecP2ZO9 VHweqQQ3cjnZkFW6BiRgE8
What’s everyone thoughts on this? A bit too far?
That's a bit much
superfurryhibby
26-05-2022, 11:35 AM
I would advise anyone thinking of going by train to make other arrangements, you won't get back to Edinburgh.
I'm staying in Glasgow now, booked a hotel & was surprised to find some decent ones available at fairly reasonable prices.
There will be plenty of late night buses from Buchanan St?
Dr What If?
26-05-2022, 12:05 PM
That's a bit much
It happens in other sports. At my first away rugby international I was surprised to hear the Welsh join in with 'Flower of Scotland', made an effort to learn the English version of 'Land of my Fathers' as a result. Now at 6 nations games I join in with all but one :greengrin.
Granted, there are very many anthems I wouldn't have a clue about and wouldn't even attempt....Ukraine being up there.....that and I've never done that at a football game. I think its a nice idea though.....just as long as they understand that while that ball is being kicked around the pitch the niceties will temporarily be suspended.
Mark05
26-05-2022, 12:07 PM
https://news.stv.tv/sport/tartan-army-to-be-handed-ukrainian-anthem-lyrics-in-bid-for-show-of-solidarity-ahead-of-world-cup-play-off?fbclid=IwAR3W5d9y5I8L6VXQx9yZU_pvinVMw4ecP2ZO9 VHweqQQ3cjnZkFW6BiRgE8
What’s everyone thoughts on this? A bit too far?
I wouldn't sing the Ukraine anthem,I think Scotland need to concentrate on ourselves Having said that I wouldn't be against a Scotland Ukraine flag before the game to show support.We all know for this game Scotland is on its own everyone will be supporting Ukraine.We need to think of ways to encourage our players not Ukraine
WhileTheChief..
26-05-2022, 12:10 PM
https://news.stv.tv/sport/tartan-army-to-be-handed-ukrainian-anthem-lyrics-in-bid-for-show-of-solidarity-ahead-of-world-cup-play-off?fbclid=IwAR3W5d9y5I8L6VXQx9yZU_pvinVMw4ecP2ZO9 VHweqQQ3cjnZkFW6BiRgE8
What’s everyone thoughts on this? A bit too far?
Nice touch.
I'd happily let them win. How can they be expected to play when their families are being killed at home.
I think Scotland should be embarrassed to play the game. Let them through automatically to boost the nation
Birthday caird pish
The Ukrainian footballers have continued to play at club level. I applaud them of this in difficult times for their families and loved ones.
Their country is at war, which is awful and I imagine it would galvanise the country to be there but surely on merit.
I hope Scotland pump them and then pump Wales & I am English
overdrive
26-05-2022, 12:27 PM
I think Scotland should be embarrassed to play the game. Let them through automatically to boost the nation
Birthday caird pish
The Ukrainian footballers have continued to play at club level. I applaud them of this in difficult times for their families and loved ones.
Their country is at war, which is awful and I imagine it would galvanise the country to be there but surely on merit.
I hope Scotland pump them and then pump Wales & I am English
This! Except I'm Scottish
marinello59
26-05-2022, 12:50 PM
https://news.stv.tv/sport/tartan-army-to-be-handed-ukrainian-anthem-lyrics-in-bid-for-show-of-solidarity-ahead-of-world-cup-play-off?fbclid=IwAR3W5d9y5I8L6VXQx9yZU_pvinVMw4ecP2ZO9 VHweqQQ3cjnZkFW6BiRgE8
What’s everyone thoughts on this? A bit too far?
I’ll be singing it…..well attempting it. :greengrin
Sir David Gray
26-05-2022, 12:52 PM
https://news.stv.tv/sport/tartan-army-to-be-handed-ukrainian-anthem-lyrics-in-bid-for-show-of-solidarity-ahead-of-world-cup-play-off?fbclid=IwAR3W5d9y5I8L6VXQx9yZU_pvinVMw4ecP2ZO9 VHweqQQ3cjnZkFW6BiRgE8
What’s everyone thoughts on this? A bit too far?
Personally not for me, but stuff like that will be a big hit on social media no doubt. It's the age that we're in.
The majority of the people of Scotland will no doubt feel a lot of sympathy for Ukraine but every single Scotland fan who attends this match needs to just focus on getting behind the Scottish team.
This is a huge opportunity for the nation and I'm afraid to say that any sympathy for Ukraine needs to go out the window for the night and focus on the job in hand.
The rest of the world not only expects us to lose next week, but they will want us to lose and I understand the reasons why but our fans need to be united behind our own team.
Certainly our fans should be respectful towards the Ukrainians but singing their national anthem is a bit much for me.
SHODAN
26-05-2022, 01:36 PM
https://news.stv.tv/sport/tartan-army-to-be-handed-ukrainian-anthem-lyrics-in-bid-for-show-of-solidarity-ahead-of-world-cup-play-off?fbclid=IwAR3W5d9y5I8L6VXQx9yZU_pvinVMw4ecP2ZO9 VHweqQQ3cjnZkFW6BiRgE8
What’s everyone thoughts on this? A bit too far?
I'll try my best!
HUTCHYHIBBY
26-05-2022, 01:49 PM
Personally not for me, but stuff like that will be a big hit on social media no doubt. It's the age that we're in.
The majority of the people of Scotland will no doubt feel a lot of sympathy for Ukraine but every single Scotland fan who attends this match needs to just focus on getting behind the Scottish team.
This is a huge opportunity for the nation and I'm afraid to say that any sympathy for Ukraine needs to go out the window for the night and focus on the job in hand.
The rest of the world not only expects us to lose next week, but they will want us to lose and I understand the reasons why but our fans need to be united behind our own team.
Certainly our fans should be respectful towards the Ukrainians but singing their national anthem is a bit much for me.
Very well put. 🖒
SteveHFC
26-05-2022, 01:52 PM
Personally not for me, but stuff like that will be a big hit on social media no doubt. It's the age that we're in.
The majority of the people of Scotland will no doubt feel a lot of sympathy for Ukraine but every single Scotland fan who attends this match needs to just focus on getting behind the Scottish team.
This is a huge opportunity for the nation and I'm afraid to say that any sympathy for Ukraine needs to go out the window for the night and focus on the job in hand.
The rest of the world not only expects us to lose next week, but they will want us to lose and I understand the reasons why but our fans need to be united behind our own team.
Certainly our fans should be respectful towards the Ukrainians but singing their national anthem is a bit much for me.
:top marks
Stanton Spence
26-05-2022, 02:04 PM
Personally not for me, but stuff like that will be a big hit on social media no doubt. It's the age that we're in.
The majority of the people of Scotland will no doubt feel a lot of sympathy for Ukraine but every single Scotland fan who attends this match needs to just focus on getting behind the Scottish team.
This is a huge opportunity for the nation and I'm afraid to say that any sympathy for Ukraine needs to go out the window for the night and focus on the job in hand.
The rest of the world not only expects us to lose next week, but they will want us to lose and I understand the reasons why but our fans need to be united behind our own team.
Certainly our fans should be respectful towards the Ukrainians but singing their national anthem is a bit much for me.Well put SDG and exactly how I feel
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ahibby
26-05-2022, 02:08 PM
This! Except I'm Scottish
That and I am half and half.
marinello59
26-05-2022, 02:21 PM
Personally not for me, but stuff like that will be a big hit on social media no doubt. It's the age that we're in.
The majority of the people of Scotland will no doubt feel a lot of sympathy for Ukraine but every single Scotland fan who attends this match needs to just focus on getting behind the Scottish team.
This is a huge opportunity for the nation and I'm afraid to say that any sympathy for Ukraine needs to go out the window for the night and focus on the job in hand.
The rest of the world not only expects us to lose next week, but they will want us to lose and I understand the reasons why but our fans need to be united behind our own team.
Certainly our fans should be respectful towards the Ukrainians but singing their national anthem is a bit much for me.
Showing support and solidarity with the nation of Ukraine before the game kicks off and supporting the Scottish football team wholeheartedly during the match are not mutually exclusive positions to take. I will be doing both.
davhibby
26-05-2022, 02:50 PM
Personally not for me, but stuff like that will be a big hit on social media no doubt. It's the age that we're in.
The majority of the people of Scotland will no doubt feel a lot of sympathy for Ukraine but every single Scotland fan who attends this match needs to just focus on getting behind the Scottish team.
This is a huge opportunity for the nation and I'm afraid to say that any sympathy for Ukraine needs to go out the window for the night and focus on the job in hand.
The rest of the world not only expects us to lose next week, but they will want us to lose and I understand the reasons why but our fans need to be united behind our own team.
Certainly our fans should be respectful towards the Ukrainians but singing their national anthem is a bit much for me.
Exactly. Once the players are on the pitch Hampden should be bouncing and an atmosphere that the Ukraine players don’t enjoy. Everything else going on goes out the window during the game.
I’m glad that Ukraine have managed to get to play the game and that in itself is a great achievement but fingers crossed that’s as good as it gets for them and we’re at the WC in December.
davhibby
26-05-2022, 02:51 PM
Showing support and solidarity with the nation of Ukraine before the game kicks off and supporting the Scottish football team wholeheartedly during the match are not mutually exclusive positions to take. I will be doing both.
Do the Ukrainians really want 50 thousand drunk Scots ruining what will be a poignant moment for them by attempting to sing an anthem that most won’t have even heard before? It’s a pretty poor attempt at a PR win by a Uefa sponsor
Mon Dieu4
26-05-2022, 02:52 PM
Personally not for me, but stuff like that will be a big hit on social media no doubt. It's the age that we're in.
The majority of the people of Scotland will no doubt feel a lot of sympathy for Ukraine but every single Scotland fan who attends this match needs to just focus on getting behind the Scottish team.
This is a huge opportunity for the nation and I'm afraid to say that any sympathy for Ukraine needs to go out the window for the night and focus on the job in hand.
The rest of the world not only expects us to lose next week, but they will want us to lose and I understand the reasons why but our fans need to be united behind our own team.
Certainly our fans should be respectful towards the Ukrainians but singing their national anthem is a bit much for me.
Depends if the tune is a belter or not, if we played France and I knew the words I'd sing it
Mcbizz1998
26-05-2022, 02:53 PM
Personally not for me, but stuff like that will be a big hit on social media no doubt. It's the age that we're in.
The majority of the people of Scotland will no doubt feel a lot of sympathy for Ukraine but every single Scotland fan who attends this match needs to just focus on getting behind the Scottish team.
This is a huge opportunity for the nation and I'm afraid to say that any sympathy for Ukraine needs to go out the window for the night and focus on the job in hand.
The rest of the world not only expects us to lose next week, but they will want us to lose and I understand the reasons why but our fans need to be united behind our own team.
Certainly our fans should be respectful towards the Ukrainians but singing their national anthem is a bit much for me.
Agreed, SDG. Pretty much everyone is on the same page on the Russia/Ukraine situation - we all agree it’s awful and support Ukraine.
But this is a football match and we should be supporting our Country and team from the moment we step into the stadium.
Onceinawhile
26-05-2022, 02:53 PM
Personally not for me, but stuff like that will be a big hit on social media no doubt. It's the age that we're in.
The majority of the people of Scotland will no doubt feel a lot of sympathy for Ukraine but every single Scotland fan who attends this match needs to just focus on getting behind the Scottish team.
This is a huge opportunity for the nation and I'm afraid to say that any sympathy for Ukraine needs to go out the window for the night and focus on the job in hand.
The rest of the world not only expects us to lose next week, but they will want us to lose and I understand the reasons why but our fans need to be united behind our own team.
Certainly our fans should be respectful towards the Ukrainians but singing their national anthem is a bit much for me.
I'd say for the duration of the game, rather than the night, but other than that... Bang on.
Brummie_Hibs
26-05-2022, 03:14 PM
The biggest respect Scotland fans could show for the Ukraine anthem would be not to boo it as seems to happen in most other games
I don't agree.
Apart from obviously England, the only time I've heard significant booing was against Liechtenstein.
Steven79
26-05-2022, 04:11 PM
I don't agree.
Apart from obviously England, the only time I've heard significant booing was against Liechtenstein.
I wonder why that was...
Frazerbob
26-05-2022, 05:13 PM
The biggest respect Scotland fans could show for the Ukraine anthem would be not to boo it as seems to happen in most other games
Stop talking utter pish
Daniel 1875
26-05-2022, 05:19 PM
The biggest respect Scotland fans could show for the Ukraine anthem would be not to boo it as seems to happen in most other games
‘Most other games’ - nice try.
basehibby
26-05-2022, 05:38 PM
I don't agree.
Apart from obviously England, the only time I've heard significant booing was against Liechtenstein.
I took my Mrs - who is of Greek descent - to a Scotland WC qualifier vs Greece at Hampden years ago and was cringing just a teensy wee bit when the Greek National Anthem was massively booed at great volume and all the way through!
I was a bit embarassed at the time but I later realised that this was the return fixture and FOS had probably been given the same treatment in Athens some months previously by the Greek supporters - who are bams to rival anything we have got!
So this was a case of "tit for tat" booing I think - the mind boggles about what Liechestein must have done to provoke the same reaction though.
Scotland beat Greece 1-0 on the night BTW
Smartie
26-05-2022, 06:20 PM
I took my Mrs - who is of Greek descent - to a Scotland WC qualifier vs Greece at Hampden years ago and was cringing just a teensy wee bit when the Greek National Anthem was massively booed at great volume and all the way through!
I was a bit embarassed at the time but I later realised that this was the return fixture and FOS had probably been given the same treatment in Athens some months previously by the Greek supporters - who are bams to rival anything we have got!
So this was a case of "tit for tat" booing I think - the mind boggles about what Liechestein must have done to provoke the same reaction though.
Scotland beat Greece 1-0 on the night BTW
You want to give Liechtenstein’s anthem a quick listen on YouTube…
Keith_M
26-05-2022, 07:38 PM
International football doesn't mean a great deal to me these days but I'll be lending my support to Ukraine on this occasion. Having watched some of their fans talking about what it would mean for the country to reach a World Cup I can live without Scotland being there. Not such a big deal in light of the bigger picture.
Though I do actually have an interest in international football, I have to admit I've actually had similar thoughts the last couple of months.
Frazerbob
26-05-2022, 09:23 PM
Pretty much every game at home
Complete nonsense.
BoomtownHibees
26-05-2022, 09:36 PM
So there is no booing of opposition anthems at Hampden really.
Not at “pretty much every game”
International football doesn't mean a great deal to me these days but I'll be lending my support to Ukraine on this occasion. Having watched some of their fans talking about what it would mean for the country to reach a World Cup I can live without Scotland being there. Not such a big deal in light of the bigger picture.
It’s ok to have sympathy for what is going on I’m Ukraine AND want your national team to beat them in what is a massive game for the country. I will be so up for this game and the minute I step inside Hampden I hope Scotland do absolutely everything to win this game, absolutely no sentiment required as it’s professional sport not diplomatic relations.
CallumLaidlaw
26-05-2022, 09:51 PM
It’s ok to have sympathy for what is going on I’m Ukraine AND want your national team to beat them in what is a massive game for the country. I will be so up for this game and the minute I step inside Hampden I hope Scotland do absolutely everything to win this game, absolutely no sentiment required as it’s professional sport not diplomatic relations.
Agree 100%
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Sir David Gray
26-05-2022, 11:22 PM
Showing support and solidarity with the nation of Ukraine before the game kicks off and supporting the Scottish football team wholeheartedly during the match are not mutually exclusive positions to take. I will be doing both.
Each to their own, personally disagree but I'm sure you won't be alone.
Blaster
27-05-2022, 07:51 AM
It’s ok to have sympathy for what is going on I’m Ukraine AND want your national team to beat them in what is a massive game for the country. I will be so up for this game and the minute I step inside Hampden I hope Scotland do absolutely everything to win this game, absolutely no sentiment required as it’s professional sport not diplomatic relations.
I’m the same. For these folk who think Scotland should forfeit the tie, so should Wales and England in the group stages. In fact just give them the World Cup and save time
davhibby
27-05-2022, 08:04 AM
Hear it regularly
How often are you there? Give us some examples then? I’ll start with the game just 2 months ago where there was no booing of the Polish anthem
green day
27-05-2022, 08:21 AM
I’m the same. For these folk who think Scotland should forfeit the tie, so should Wales and England in the group stages. In fact just give them the World Cup and save time
I dont think that the Ukrainian footballers even want this level of patronising.
Although its not something I watch, I cringed when I heard that the public vote had given the Ukrainian entry the Eurovision song winner.
Smartie
27-05-2022, 08:23 AM
I’m sure the Israeli anthem was booed quite recently, I was at the game.
It was a surprise to me. I hadn’t been at a Scotland game at Hampden for a few years and it certainly never used to happen in the past, and you can’t think of any reason why they might be singled out (unlike England, Northern Ireland, Liechtenstein).
Blaster
27-05-2022, 08:42 AM
I’m sure the Israeli anthem was booed quite recently, I was at the game.
It was a surprise to me. I hadn’t been at a Scotland game at Hampden for a few years and it certainly never used to happen in the past, and you can’t think of any reason why they might be singled out (unlike England, Northern Ireland, Liechtenstein).
It definitely was. I’m sure the SFA were fined for it
Moulin Yarns
27-05-2022, 10:26 AM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12622083/sky-sports-partners-with-uk-broadcasters-to-make-world-cup-play-off-final-available-to-all
Final between Wales and either Ukraine or Scotland to be shown on ITV/STV
SteveHFC
27-05-2022, 10:31 AM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12622083/sky-sports-partners-with-uk-broadcasters-to-make-world-cup-play-off-final-available-to-all
Final between Wales and either Ukraine or Scotland to be shown on ITV/STV
Great news.
cabbageandribs1875
27-05-2022, 10:44 AM
Hear it regularly
that's quite a claim Jim, i can't say i've heard much booing for opposition national anthems :confused:
england
liechtenstein
israel apart :)
Nakedmanoncrack
27-05-2022, 11:09 AM
that's quite a claim Jim, i can't say i've heard much booing for opposition national anthems :confused:
england
liechtenstein
israel apart :)
Other than the odd dafty, those & NI are only anthems ever booed to any extent.
JimBHibees
27-05-2022, 11:18 AM
How often are you there? Give us some examples then? I’ll start with the game just 2 months ago where there was no booing of the Polish anthem
Was at Israel game was embarrassing. Pretty sure I have heard booing of other anthems however admit my wording was probably wrong but have heard other anthems get booed in the past think Craig Brown made a comment about respecting other teams anthems on the back of it.
JimBHibees
27-05-2022, 11:20 AM
that's quite a claim Jim, i can't say i've heard much booing for opposition national anthems :confused:
england
liechtenstein
israel apart :)
Yeah you are probably right I have exaggerated that but was hacked off at Israel game when it happened. Will delete some of my posts
WeeRussell
27-05-2022, 11:22 AM
That’s really strange. I’d say I’m a semi-regular at hampden and never hear this (obvious exceptions of the odd tit that you get in any football support).
WeeRussell
27-05-2022, 11:24 AM
International football doesn't mean a great deal to me these days but I'll be lending my support to Ukraine on this occasion. Having watched some of their fans talking about what it would mean for the country to reach a World Cup I can live without Scotland being there. Not such a big deal in light of the bigger picture.
I for one am shocked.
WeeRussell
27-05-2022, 11:24 AM
Nice touch.
I'd happily let them win. How can they be expected to play when their families are being killed at home.
Make that doubly shocked.
cabbageandribs1875
27-05-2022, 11:27 AM
Yeah you are probably right I have exaggerated that but was hacked off at Israel game when it happened. Will delete some of my posts
nah no need for that :greengrin
cabbageandribs1875
27-05-2022, 11:41 AM
I for one am shocked.
i'm flabbergasted :agree:
Jack Hackett
27-05-2022, 12:04 PM
Personally not for me, but stuff like that will be a big hit on social media no doubt. It's the age that we're in.
The majority of the people of Scotland will no doubt feel a lot of sympathy for Ukraine but every single Scotland fan who attends this match needs to just focus on getting behind the Scottish team.
This is a huge opportunity for the nation and I'm afraid to say that any sympathy for Ukraine needs to go out the window for the night and focus on the job in hand.
The rest of the world not only expects us to lose next week, but they will want us to lose and I understand the reasons why but our fans need to be united behind our own team.
Certainly our fans should be respectful towards the Ukrainians but singing their national anthem is a bit much for me.
:agree:
Applause throughout their anthem would be appropriate imo
WeeRussell
27-05-2022, 12:43 PM
:agree:
Applause throughout their anthem would be appropriate imo
Any appropriate showing of love and support towards Ukraine bookending 90 mins of doing everything we can to win the football match will do for me.
SteveHFC
28-05-2022, 09:36 PM
Ryan Jack out injured for the upcoming games.
Allan Campbell of Luton called up.
Billy Whizz
29-05-2022, 05:07 PM
Has a ref been appointed for this game yet?
Sir David Gray
29-05-2022, 05:18 PM
Has a ref been appointed for this game yet?
Danny Makkelie of the Netherlands.
JamesHFC
29-05-2022, 05:20 PM
Has a ref been appointed for this game yet?
Danny Makkelie I think, Dutch referee.
Was recently ref for the CL semi final between Villarreal and Liverpool. Was also in charge of the 2020 Europa League Final, England v Germany in Euro 2020 and England v Denmark semi final at Euro 2020.
oneone73
29-05-2022, 05:31 PM
Danny Makkelie I think, Dutch referee.
Was recently ref for the CL semi final between Villarreal and Liverpool. Was also in charge of the 2020 Europa League Final, England v Germany in Euro 2020 and England v Denmark semi final at Euro 2020.
Shame. I'd been hoping for a Russian ref 😉
Jones28
29-05-2022, 07:14 PM
A lot of people on Twitter not happy at Robertson drinking a boytle of beer at Liverpool’s parade.
I think people need to get out more.
SteveHFC
29-05-2022, 07:14 PM
https://twitter.com/lfc/status/1530966684663685121?s=21&t=e4ya4qX4QrTWfFW7g_Komg
Robertson better get up the road.
Stairway 2 7
29-05-2022, 10:04 PM
https://twitter.com/lfc/status/1530966684663685121?s=21&t=e4ya4qX4QrTWfFW7g_Komg
Robertson better get up the road.
I'm sure your joking since it's Sunday. I'm sure Robertson could have a few on Wednesday and have a better engine than most in the Scotland squad wed night mind
He's here!
30-05-2022, 06:24 AM
Though I do actually have an interest in international football, I have to admit I've actually had similar thoughts the last couple of months.
I actually think I'd probably feel the same if it was Hibs playing a Ukrainian side in Europe. There are things in life which matter a great deal more than your football team and this is one of them IMHO.
SteveHFC
30-05-2022, 12:12 PM
https://twitter.com/scotrail/status/1531232092662779905?s=21&t=AjovZkDb8c7KT5cejHuI9w
Glad I’m getting a lift home after the game.
This is going to be chaos.
LeithMike
30-05-2022, 12:20 PM
https://twitter.com/scotrail/status/1531232092662779905?s=21&t=AjovZkDb8c7KT5cejHuI9w
Glad I’m getting a lift home after the game.
This is going to be chaos.That's pretty horrendous. If the game goes to extra time and penalties, fans getting the train would have to leave well before the end.
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Sir David Gray
30-05-2022, 12:20 PM
https://twitter.com/scotrail/status/1531232092662779905?s=21&t=AjovZkDb8c7KT5cejHuI9w
Glad I’m getting a lift home after the game.
This is going to be chaos.
But John Swinney said last week he was very confident that additional services would be put in place to deal with this match! 🙄
What a shambles, hope everyone gets to and from the match ok.
Stairway 2 7
30-05-2022, 12:23 PM
That's pretty horrendous. If the game goes to extra time and penalties, fans getting the train would have to leave well before the end.
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You'd be toiling if left at 90 minutes
https://twitter.com/scotrail/status/1531232092662779905?s=21&t=AjovZkDb8c7KT5cejHuI9w
Glad I’m getting a lift home after the game.
This is going to be chaos.
Total mess. This country and the rest of the UK is falling apart.
chrisski33
30-05-2022, 01:00 PM
I'm sure your joking since it's Sunday. I'm sure Robertson could have a few on Wednesday and have a better engine than most in the Scotland squad wed night mind
All we know it could have been non alcoholic beer he was drinking. Im sure he will be fine and fitter than others in the team. Some over reaction from sensitive twitter users
JeMeSouviens
30-05-2022, 03:29 PM
Graeme Souness says he wants Ukraine to win and believes the majority of Scotland fans will too.
I'm all for a public show of support for the Ukrainians, but mon tf. :rolleyes:
erin go bragh
30-05-2022, 03:36 PM
Graeme Souness says he wants Ukraine to win and believes the majority of Scotland fans will too.
I'm all for a public show of support for the Ukrainians, but mon tf. :rolleyes:
Total fanny of a guy . Must be true about him being a Jambo growing up .
Stairway 2 7
30-05-2022, 03:49 PM
Ridiculous opinion from souness. Upmost compassion for the nation and I would be supporting them against anyone else, but I hope we pump them
HibbyAndy
30-05-2022, 04:00 PM
Graeme Souness says he wants Ukraine to win and believes the majority of Scotland fans will too.
I'm all for a public show of support for the Ukrainians, but mon tf. :rolleyes:
What a ****ing twat Souness is !!
green day
30-05-2022, 04:02 PM
Graeme Souness says he wants Ukraine to win and believes the majority of Scotland fans will too.
I'm all for a public show of support for the Ukrainians, but mon tf. :rolleyes:
He has spent too much time living in England and has turned into (even more of) a fanny.
Steven79
30-05-2022, 04:04 PM
He has spent too much time living in England and has turned into (even more of) a fanny.
That's pretty much my opinion of him as well.
He can watch the game with his other former Scot Alan Hansen...
Sir David Gray
30-05-2022, 04:14 PM
Graeme Souness says he wants Ukraine to win and believes the majority of Scotland fans will too.
I'm all for a public show of support for the Ukrainians, but mon tf. :rolleyes:
Utterly ridiculous.
JimBHibees
30-05-2022, 04:16 PM
Graeme Souness says he wants Ukraine to win and believes the majority of Scotland fans will too.
I'm all for a public show of support for the Ukrainians, but mon tf. :rolleyes:
Ffs Souness :faf::faf:
Keith_M
30-05-2022, 04:22 PM
Sourness can support who he wants, I don't mind, but his comment about the majority of Scottish Fans feeling the same as he does is clearly bollocks.
JimBHibees
30-05-2022, 04:26 PM
But John Swinney said last week he was very confident that additional services would be put in place to deal with this match! 🙄
What a shambles, hope everyone gets to and from the match ok.
It is the drivers who are working to rule.
OstKurve Hibs
30-05-2022, 04:29 PM
Souness is a tosser,
He's here!
30-05-2022, 04:30 PM
Graeme Souness says he wants Ukraine to win and believes the majority of Scotland fans will too.
I'm all for a public show of support for the Ukrainians, but mon tf. :rolleyes:
Souness was always a bit of an oddball when it came to international football (did he not say something along the lines of he'd have preferred to have been born English so he could have played for a stronger team?) but having read what he has to say on this I think it's reasonable enough (can't see the bit about him saying the majority of Scotland fans will agree with him though). I think Ukraine getting to the World Cup and, even better, doing well there, would be great.
Keith_M
30-05-2022, 04:30 PM
It is the drivers who are working to rule.
I thought they were on a 'Go Slow'. Or is that just the Trains?
WeeRussell
30-05-2022, 04:44 PM
Sourness can support who he wants, I don't mind, but his comment about the majority of Scottish Fans feeling the same as he does is clearly bollocks.
I think to be fair to the slavering hun clown, the bit about feeling the same was meant about mixed emotions and it being strange at the game.
I’d understand his point of view if Ukraine beating us was going to have any effect on the war. Souness wanting his own country to get beat in a football game isn’t sending any messages to Russia. Just a message to us that already know that he’s a fanny.
People wanting their own teams to get beat in sport isn’t helpful to anyone, even if some want to use it as extra opportunity to remind us how much they don’t like their own country.
If I was Ukrainian I’d want matches like this to be treated as normal, competitive fixtures. The rest of the world can support who they want, but there’s nothing heroic or rational about Scottish fans wanting Scotland to get beat, in my opinion.
JeMeSouviens
30-05-2022, 04:50 PM
Souness was always a bit of an oddball when it came to international football (did he not say something along the lines of he'd have preferred to have been born English so he could have played for a stronger team?) but having read what he has to say on this I think it's reasonable enough (can't see the bit about him saying the majority of Scotland fans will agree with him though). I think Ukraine getting to the World Cup and, even better, doing well there, would be great.
"I’m doing it for television and I’m not sure how I’ll cope with that. I know the majority of our supporters who go there will feel the same — there you are. It’s going to be a really strange night.”
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/other-football/graeme-souness-wants-scotland-lose-24096167
SteveHFC
30-05-2022, 05:06 PM
On Wednesday, 1 June, we will now be running:
22:45 Glasgow Queen St – Edinburgh
22:45 Edinburgh – Glasgow Queen St
23:45 Glasgow Queen St – Edinburgh
23:46 Edinburgh - Glasgow Queen St
23:15 Glasgow Queen Street - Edinburgh
Blaster
30-05-2022, 05:07 PM
Extra trains now being put on including 10.45pm and 11.45pm to Edinburgh
On Wednesday, 1 June, we will now be running:
22:45 Glasgow Queen St – Edinburgh
22:45 Edinburgh – Glasgow Queen St
23:45 Glasgow Queen St – Edinburgh
23:46 Edinburgh - Glasgow Queen St
23:15 Glasgow Queen Street - Edinburgh
The trains were like magic after all 😁
ronaldo7
30-05-2022, 07:01 PM
On Wednesday, 1 June, we will now be running:
22:45 Glasgow Queen St – Edinburgh
22:45 Edinburgh – Glasgow Queen St
23:45 Glasgow Queen St – Edinburgh
23:46 Edinburgh - Glasgow Queen St
23:15 Glasgow Queen Street - Edinburgh
Nice to see more trains for some parts of Scotland.
SteveHFC
30-05-2022, 10:09 PM
https://twitter.com/forthone/status/1531338725526994947?s=21&t=6OI3By_lABZ7ck1h-7-AxA
Get this in the bin.
JammyDoidger
30-05-2022, 10:19 PM
https://twitter.com/forthone/status/1531338725526994947?s=21&t=6OI3By_lABZ7ck1h-7-AxA
Get this in the bin.
Honestly eh, chance to qualify for the World Cup and we're coming out with this crap. Get them pumped.
SteveHFC
30-05-2022, 10:20 PM
Honestly eh, chance to qualify for the World Cup and we're coming out with this crap. Get them pumped.
Hope we do pump them. Our greatest chance to reach a World Cup in a long time.
Nakedmanoncrack
30-05-2022, 10:20 PM
https://twitter.com/forthone/status/1531338725526994947?s=21&t=6OI3By_lABZ7ck1h-7-AxA
Get this in the bin.
When you think things can't get more ridiculous, something like that comes along.
B.H.F.C
30-05-2022, 10:21 PM
https://twitter.com/forthone/status/1531338725526994947?s=21&t=6OI3By_lABZ7ck1h-7-AxA
Get this in the bin.
Going by the replies to the tweet, fair to say you’re not alone in your view.
cabbageandribs1875
30-05-2022, 10:22 PM
from last week obviously :wink:https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/284374256_10166328371805147_3271451003373146794_n. jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=VxFZs3uI2EsAX9Ggkxg&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT-DTACbBuwEcbBm8u7HEXG5U68jrcFLUFr1r13YoKpwhA&oe=629AEA1F
I fully expect us to knock out Ukraine, be hated by everyone then lose to Wales.
I think we have a really good chance of qualifying.
If we do and it’s still a challenge, what a buzz this country will get going into next season only 4 months away from the World Cup finals. And a totally doable group as well.
Sir David Gray
30-05-2022, 10:45 PM
https://twitter.com/forthone/status/1531338725526994947?s=21&t=6OI3By_lABZ7ck1h-7-AxA
Get this in the bin.
What a load of nonsense.
I think everyone knows that football compared with a war is insignificant but it's a football match which is going ahead on Wednesday night and in a football context it absolutely does really matter.
I hope we pump Ukraine on Wednesday night and then go on and pump Wales on Sunday. I wish Ukraine well in their fight against Putin and his forces and I hope we as a country do what we can to help them reclaim their country but as far as Wednesday night is concerned all sympathies and sentiment go out the window for the night and they must be treated like any other opponent.
HUTCHYHIBBY
30-05-2022, 10:47 PM
I actually think I'd probably feel the same if it was Hibs playing a Ukrainian side in Europe. There are things in life which matter a great deal more than your football team and this is one of them IMHO.
It really isn't.
Bristolhibby
30-05-2022, 11:16 PM
I think we have a really good chance of qualifying.
If we do and it’s still a challenge, what a buzz this country will get going into next season only 4 months away from the World Cup finals. And a totally doable group as well.
The Scottish way.
FWIW I think we will qualify. Edgy as **** games but we will do it.
Flying up Bristol to Glasgow on Wednesday and God willing will be heading through to Cardiff from Chippenham on Sunday. (No ticket).
J
Wilson
31-05-2022, 02:15 AM
It really isn't.
Yeah - I don't get it.
Scottish fans are meant to feel that there are more important things than football. While Ukraine - dealing with more important things - couldn't let the football slide.
It doesn't work.
18Craig75
31-05-2022, 05:21 AM
The Scottish way.
FWIW I think we will qualify. Edgy as **** games but we will do it.
Flying up Bristol to Glasgow on Wednesday and God willing will be heading through to Cardiff from Chippenham on Sunday. (No ticket).
J
I was considering going to Cardiff if we manage to beat Ukraine. But there doesn’t seem to be any events pencilled in for Scotland fans, no fan zones that I can see and it’s essentially going to be impossible to pick up a ticket down there, given the limited capacity. We will probably watch it in the pub up here, much cheaper than going all the way to Cardiff to just watch it in a pub there!
Seperate issue but why is this play off final isn’t a 50/50 split of fans? Fair enough Wales were pulled out the hat first so have it there, but the fact they’ll have 90% of fans seems a bit unfair in a one off game, be it against us or Ukraine.
norhfc
31-05-2022, 05:55 AM
https://twitter.com/forthone/status/1531338725526994947?s=21&t=6OI3By_lABZ7ck1h-7-AxA
Get this in the bin.
WTAF, this is not the Eurovision song contest. We really should not be going into this difficult match in all sorts of ways with that mentality.
Libby Hibby
31-05-2022, 06:20 AM
Come on Scotland…In to them 🏴
theonlywayisup
31-05-2022, 07:11 AM
From the 1st touch of the ball to the last, I want Scotland to win and I want it badly. A whole generation have not experienced seeing Scotland at the World Cup. This is our moment!
What's happening in Ukraine is terrible, one that will be written about for decades to come. We have supported the Ukraine nation in their darkest hour, but for a couple of hours on Wednesday night we should grasp the opportunity that is in our hands and take it.
Let's show our support to Ukraine, but let's also remember who we are. We are Scotland. Let's show the world that the Hampden roar is back. Let's win with style and passion. This is our moment!
WeeRussell
31-05-2022, 08:39 AM
https://twitter.com/forthone/status/1531338725526994947?s=21&t=6OI3By_lABZ7ck1h-7-AxA
Get this in the bin.
What a strange video to release a few days before the match.
SteveHFC
31-05-2022, 11:57 AM
What a strange video to release a few days before the match.
Appears it’s been deleted.
jacomo
31-05-2022, 11:57 AM
I think to be fair to the slavering hun clown, the bit about feeling the same was meant about mixed emotions and it being strange at the game.
I’d understand his point of view if Ukraine beating us was going to have any effect on the war. Souness wanting his own country to get beat in a football game isn’t sending any messages to Russia. Just a message to us that already know that he’s a fanny.
People wanting their own teams to get beat in sport isn’t helpful to anyone, even if some want to use it as extra opportunity to remind us how much they don’t like their own country.
If I was Ukrainian I’d want matches like this to be treated as normal, competitive fixtures. The rest of the world can support who they want, but there’s nothing heroic or rational about Scottish fans wanting Scotland to get beat, in my opinion.
:agree:
Steven79
31-05-2022, 01:20 PM
Souness was always a bit of an oddball when it came to international football (did he not say something along the lines of he'd have preferred to have been born English so he could have played for a stronger team?) but having read what he has to say on this I think it's reasonable enough (can't see the bit about him saying the majority of Scotland fans will agree with him though). I think Ukraine getting to the World Cup and, even better, doing well there, would be great.
So he would have rather have won **** all with England than **** all with Scotland?
Maybe if him and the other English based players like his mates Hansen & Dalglish had played for Scotland as they did for their club we would have done much more at international level considering what they were doing at club level.
Ringothedog
31-05-2022, 01:36 PM
I actually think I'd probably feel the same if it was Hibs playing a Ukrainian side in Europe. There are things in life which matter a great deal more than your football team and this is one of them IMHO.
If that’s the case then why are the Ukrainian National team playing when there are more important things happening. When does this “sympathy” stop? This game? The game against Wales? Or do we just award Ukraine the World Cup. I sympathise with all their players and the whole of the Ukrainian population but do not believe that awarding them a game of football will somehow make their lives better.
Northernhibee
31-05-2022, 01:47 PM
The most respectful thing we can do is play this like a normal game of football. A brief 90 minute bit of escape where normality prevails over insanity.
Smartie
31-05-2022, 02:12 PM
The most respectful thing we can do is play this like a normal game of football. A brief 90 minute bit of escape where normality prevails over insanity.
Spot on.
They've taken time out of a very serious situation to take a game of football seriously.
The least we can do is to do likewise.
JimBHibees
31-05-2022, 03:30 PM
So he would have rather have won **** all with England than **** all with Scotland?
Maybe if him and the other English based players like his mates Hansen & Dalglish had played for Scotland as they did for their club we would have done much more at international level considering what they were doing at club level.
You mean Dalglish Scotlands top goal scorer?
Steven79
31-05-2022, 03:37 PM
You mean Dalglish Scotlands top goal scorer?
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I just think for 102 caps you would expect more considering what he was doing at club level with Liverpool.
Hansen is another that rarely showed his club form for Scotland...
JimBHibees
31-05-2022, 03:40 PM
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I just think for 102 caps you would expect more considering what he was doing at club level with Liverpool.
Hansen is another that rarely showed his club form for Scotland...
I think Dalglish was very good for Scotland I know there was that kind of chat when he played however he provided so many iconic moments in a Scotland strip. As for Hansen just think Willie Miller was a better player.
Lancs Harp
31-05-2022, 05:03 PM
Good luck tomorrow fellas as least someone south of the border is rooting for you. Be great to have an England Scotland match in the World cup.
Dr What If?
31-05-2022, 05:50 PM
We simply have to qualify.....its been a long 44 year wait to right the wrongs of our last meeting with Iran, this is the big one and we can't miss it :greengrin
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31-05-2022, 06:45 PM
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I just think for 102 caps you would expect more considering what he was doing at club level with Liverpool.
Hansen is another that rarely showed his club form for Scotland...
No question Dalglish underperformed at international level, especially considering he was part of far stronger Scotland teams than those we've seen over the last 30 years or so.
Lawrie Reilly (who was forced to retire through injury at just 29) scored 22 goals in 38 games for Scotland, a 61% goals to game ratio - leaving Dalglish, and indeed Denis Law in the shade. Had Lawrie been able to play longer and match Dalglish's 100 caps he'd likely have scored at least 50 goals.
We simply have to qualify.....its been a long 44 year wait to right the wrongs of our last meeting with Iran, this is the big one and we can't miss it :greengrin
I don't think it will be as easy as some expect and Wales with Gareth Bale awaits if Scotland get passed Ukraine.
WeeRussell
31-05-2022, 06:51 PM
I don't think it will be as easy as some expect and Wales with Gareth Bale awaits if Scotland get passed Ukraine.
I don’t know anyone that expects either game to be easy, should we play both.
I actually fancy us to beat wales if we can get past Ukraine tomorrow.
But I don’t expect any of it to be easy.
Lancs Harp
31-05-2022, 06:52 PM
I don’t know anyone that expects either game to be easy, should we play both.
I actually fancy us to beat wales if we can get past Ukraine tomorrow.
But I don’t expect any of it to be easy.
Im a bit the other way round. Expect Scotland to win tomorrow but lose to Wales.
LeithMike
31-05-2022, 06:54 PM
I don't think it will be as easy as some expect and Wales with Gareth Bale awaits if Scotland get passed Ukraine.What about a penalty shoot out with Aaron Ramsey? Don't think Wales are at the same level they were a couple of years ago.
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Lancs Harp
31-05-2022, 06:58 PM
What about a penalty shoot out with Aaron Ramsey? Don't think Wales are at the same level they were a couple of years ago.
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They arent fella but Scotland havent been at that level for some time. Your moon is rising though and Wales's falling.
Will be some occasion if it happens. Wheres it being played at? Anfield? Is JJ playing 😄
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