Derby match in doubt

[lucky]

Scottish Government to announce this afternoon at 1420 on whether big gatherings can continue such the Edinburgh Hogmanay party, concerts and large sporting events. After the Welsh ban I don’t think the derby will be going ahead with fans in the stadium

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59739797

[Steven79]

Scottish Government to announce this afternoon at 1420 on whether big gatherings can continue such the Edinburgh Hogmanay party, concerts and large sporting events. After the Welsh ban I don’t think the derby will be going ahead with fans in the stadium

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59739797Yeah I can't see it either.

I was going to give the Aberdeen game a miss but with it looking like the last game we will be able to attend I'm going to make the extra effort and go to it.

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[bingo70]

Scottish Government to announce this afternoon at 1420 on whether big gatherings can continue such the Edinburgh Hogmanay party, concerts and large sporting events. After the Welsh ban I don’t think the derby will be going ahead with fans in the stadium

Seems inevitable that something is going to give.

[Sir David Gray]

Yep looks like the game will be behind closed doors.

Happy New Year...🙄

[Hermit Crab]

I think we all know whats coming don't we. She could of course limit numbers then it becomes a lottery to see who gets in or not.

[Steven79]

I think we all know whats coming don't we.Indoor shopping malls are fine but outdoor football grounds are covid hotspots apparently...

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[Hibernia&Alba]

Indoor shopping malls are fine but outdoor football grounds are covid hotspots apparently...

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That mightn't last, though. We might end up back in full lockdown.

[Leitherhibs]

The smart thing to do here would be to move this, and the Glasgow Derby back a few weeks in the hope that fans can attend. Effectively bringing forward the winter break.

[scoopyboy]

Yep looks like the game will be behind closed doors.

Happy New Year...🙄

Surely you could just play it later in the season rather than behind closed doors.

[Steve88]

Scottish Government to announce this afternoon at 1420 on whether big gatherings can continue such the Edinburgh Hogmanay party, concerts and large sporting events. After the Welsh ban I don’t think the derby will be going ahead with fans in the stadium

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59739797

Ridiculous decision

[Blaster]

The smart thing to do here would be to move this, and the Glasgow Derby back a few weeks in the hope that fans can attend. Effectively bringing forward the winter break.

That’s the sensible thing to do

[SlickShoes]

The smart thing to do here would be to move this, and the Glasgow Derby back a few weeks in the hope that fans can attend. Effectively bringing forward the winter break.

Wouldn’t that need the SPFL to be flexible and engage their brain though?

I agree with you but feel like the spfl will make an arse of it even though there is plenty time and moving the games is the right thing to do.

[Springbank]

A big concern is from the emergency services too.

There are projections out there that say between 30% and 60% of us will catch Omicron over the next month or two, as it is so easy to spread, and that up to 25% of the workforce (in all sectors) will be isolating at any one stage.

If the cops and ambulance staff are 25% down on staff, I can see why they'd say prioritise other things instead of the football

[SteveHFC]

Surely you could just play it later in the season rather than behind closed doors.

This. Play these games later in the season with fans.

[hibeedonald]

Surely you could just play it later in the season rather than behind closed doors.

Yeah surely, gives them an advantage playing away from home with no fans (at least in theory... hasn't helped last few home derbies)

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Imagine they called it from Monday 3rd for 4 weeks for example, letting the old firm get a full house.

[HibsGW]

This. Play these games later in the season with fans.

The issue with that is its reliant on things going back to normal quickly. The last “circuit breaker” lasted about 3 months. A 3 month backlog probably isn’t manageable

[CB_NO3]

This could be a huge financial hit for us. Potentially looking at about 6k walk ups lost.

[Steven79]

This could be a huge financial hit for us. Potentially looking at about 6k walk ups lost.

Yep! We can't afford to lose out on it.

[Hibbyradge]

Does the government have the money for such a decision?

They'll have to compensate clubs, I would have thought.

[Since452]

The final was my last game for a good wee while regardless of what the government do.

[Billy Whizz]

This could be a huge financial hit for us. Potentially looking at about 6k walk ups lost.

Haven’t seen the news this morning, thought they couldn’t stop fans going to games without financial assistance

[Onion]

Sturgeon will be chomping at the bit to follow the Welsh and close big events, as it will cost the Scot Gov very little money. She doesn't have the funds for full lockdown and will need Bungling Boris' agreement. Hope the game is postponed rather than played in empty ground.

[hibbysam]

Unless they give cold hard facts and evidence then there is no way they should be allowed.

Further stealth lockdowns can’t be allowed to happen for the sake of peoples businesses and livelihoods.

[Pretty Boy]

Let's be honest any shutdown, football or beyond, won't last 2 or 3 weeks so pushing the games back isn't an option. It will be behind closed doors and a potentially messy round of court cases will follow as the clubs go searching for compensation.

[bingo70]

Unless they give cold hard facts and evidence then there is no way they should be allowed.

Further stealth lockdowns can’t be allowed to happen for the sake of peoples businesses and livelihoods.

Should stop politicians from earning and freeze their salaries while there are restrictions in place, watch how quickly they find a way of opening things up again.

[SHODAN]

If this is the case the derby should be postponed immediately.

It'd be just their ****ing luck to get full houses for both Tynecastle derbies and closed doors at ER.

[Hermit Crab]

Let's be honest any shutdown, football or beyond, won't last 2 or 3 weeks so pushing the games back isn't an option. It will be behind closed doors and a potentially messy round of court cases will follow as the clubs go searching for compensation.


What if both clubs refused to play until fans are allowed back in? What realistically could they authorities do?

[hibbysam]

What if both clubs refused to play until fans are allowed back in? What realistically could they authorities do?

They’d probably take great pleasure in declaring the game a defeat for both teams and deducting points for good measure 😂

[Steven79]

What if both clubs refused to play until fans are allowed back in? What realistically could they authorities do?

All clubs should claim they have covid cases to get the games postponed...

[Steven79]

They’d probably take great pleasure in declaring the game a defeat for both teams and deducting points for good measure 😂

How will they handle the Old Firm game which is before ours...

[Hermit Crab]

All clubs should claim they have covid cases to get the games postponed...


I think the clubs may require some proof of cases to be honest.

[Hermit Crab]

How will they handle the Old Firm game which is before ours...


If they allow a full capacity OF game but not ours then the games a bogey and we are as well giving up.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Unless they give cold hard facts and evidence then there is no way they should be allowed.

Further stealth lockdowns can’t be allowed to happen for the sake of peoples businesses and livelihoods.

Any decision must be guided by the empirical evidence, of course. The threat to public health must override everything, however. The last lockdown was huge decision, but it saved tens of thousands of lives.

[Mikey]

We're getting to the point where we'll be locked down to protect those who don't want to be protected.

[hibbysam]

Any decision must be guided by the empirical evidence, of course. The threat to public health must override everything, however. The last lockdown was huge decision, but it saved tens of thousands of lives.

I’m talking about this current lockdown by stealth. If they’re going to lockdown (I won’t agree) then lockdown properly. Don’t just tell folk and scare folk into not leaving their houses, leaving thousands of businesses high and dry just so they don’t have to pay compo.

[hibbysam]

If they allow a full capacity OF game but not ours then the games a bogey and we are as well giving up.

Would it surprise you? 😂

[Hermit Crab]

Would it surprise you? 😂


Absolutely not.

[Billy Whizz]

Absolutely not.

It will be both or neither

[Antifa Hibs]

What we thinking then?

Be allowed at Easter Road tomorrow then Utd away, Celtic away and Hertz at home behind closed doors?


Also, there's no chance of the OF being allowed as normal then bumping our derby. To even suggest that is quite ridiculous.

[Billy Whizz]

What we thinking then?

Be allowed at Easter Road tomorrow then Utd away, Celtic away and Hertz at home behind closed doors?

If it’s after Christmas, think we’ll get the United game, then that it will be it

[Steven79]

If it’s after Christmas, think we’ll get the United game, then that it will be it

I think we will be lucky to get the United game to be honest.

[B.H.F.C]

What we thinking then?

Be allowed at Easter Road tomorrow then Utd away, Celtic away and Hertz at home behind closed doors?


Also, there's no chance of the OF being allowed as normal then bumping our derby. To even suggest that is quite ridiculous.

I think I’ll be at Tannadice on Sunday but won’t be at Parkhead next Wednesday

I also don’t think games will be postponed. There is too much uncertainty over how long it would last. Think teams will have been prepared for going to closed door at some point this season.

[bingo70]

What we thinking then?

Be allowed at Easter Road tomorrow then Utd away, Celtic away and Hertz at home behind closed doors?


Also, there's no chance of the OF being allowed as normal then bumping our derby. To even suggest that is quite ridiculous.

Maybe limited capacity rather than behind closed doors? Not her concern that would cause a ball ache for clubs to organise that.

[Stewboy]

Sheep game will be the last with crowds I think, if Wales canning crowds we won’t be far behind

[Steven79]

I’m talking about this current lockdown by stealth. If they’re going to lockdown (I won’t agree) then lockdown properly. Don’t just tell folk and scare folk into not leaving their houses, leaving thousands of businesses high and dry just so they don’t have to pay compo.

With each passing day our situation gets worse, I work for a family business near Callander and the amount of customers coming in over the past week isn't enought to keep us going.

If something dosen't happen soon then myself and others will be let go as our boss can't pay our wages out of his own pocket as that's what the Government expect by the looks of it.

January is usally a slow month after Christmas but if we don't have Christmas/New Year boost before January where will that leave us and many other places in hospitality?

[LaMotta]

Expect the restrictions will start from 27th - so Celtic game and the derby affected before the winter break kicks in.

There will likely be a capacity limit but it could be in the very low thousands which is no good for our games.

Its then up to the SPFL whether they will postpone games or force games to go ahead. There may be very small amount of funding from Scot Gov ( taken from the £220m Scotland got on Sunday from Uk Gov). Doubt that will be enough to fully compensate for behind closed doors. Pressure from clubs and fans will be to postpone games therefore - its planned for 2 games so should be ok to slot them in at some point.

Not sure what Sky will have to say about it.....

Rangers would likely be happy to play behind close doors as they are not getting any tickets to Parkhead anyway. So they are the outlier.

Prospect of a rearranged nightime derby under the lights is good so hoping the right thing is done here.

[Sir David Gray]

What we thinking then?

Be allowed at Easter Road tomorrow then Utd away, Celtic away and Hertz at home behind closed doors?


Also, there's no chance of the OF being allowed as normal then bumping our derby. To even suggest that is quite ridiculous.

If we follow Wales then we'll be at full capacity tomorrow and then that'll be that for the foreseeable future.

[number9dream]

If there is to be some kind of ban on large gatherings, then the clubs simply must rally together to ask for a temporary shutdown. The winter break buys some time, although Sky may apply pressure since they'll want something to broadcast to all the bored people at home.
Obviously it becomes a problem if this wave goes on and on into February. Fingers, and everything else, crossed, that isn't the case.

[CockneyRebel]

We're getting to the point where we'll be locked down to protect those who don't want to be protected.

:agree:

[MWHIBBIES]

If there is to be some kind of ban on large gatherings, then the clubs simply must rally together to ask for a temporary shutdown. The winter break buys some time, although Sky may apply pressure since they'll want something to broadcast to all the bored people at home.
Obviously it becomes a problem if this wave goes on and on into February. Fingers, and everything else, crossed, that isn't the case.

The world cup next winter is going to cause a huge problem here. Next season is already earlier and more hectic.

[SQHib]

This could be a huge financial hit for us. Potentially looking at about 6k walk ups lost.


And the rest .... suspect we will have to hand back close to £100k for hearts supporters refunds and take big loss in hospitality ... whole thing is a joke ... football gets picked on again .. you can wander around an indoor shopping mall or a pub or restaurant with no vaccines and mix freely in shops and queues but can't go to a stadium outside where everyone is in theory double vaccinated ... people will stop getting any more vaccines or boosters as they offer no "freedom" advantage .. very strange way to do things

[Billy Whizz]

There’s no doubt all the clubs will want postponements rather than behind close doors
If played behind close doors they’ll have to refund walk ups and away fans. Derby behind closed doors could cost Hibs £200k

[LaMotta]

There’s no doubt all the clubs will want postponements rather than behind close doors
If played behind close doors they’ll have to refund walk ups and away fans. Derby behind closed doors could cost Hibs £200k

:agree: Postponements are inevitable I think.

[SQHib]

This could be a huge financial hit for us. Potentially looking at about 6k walk ups lost.


And the rest .... suspect we will have to hand back close to £100k for hearts supporters refunds and take big loss in hospitality ... whole thing is a joke ... football gets picked on again .. you can wander around an indoor shopping mall or a pub or restaurant with no vaccines and mix freely in shops and queues but can't go to a stadium outside where everyone is in theory double vaccinated ... people will stop getting any more vaccines or boosters as they offer no "freedom" advantage .. very strange way to do things

[Mon Dieu4]

Expect the restrictions will start from 27th - so Celtic game and the derby affected before the winter break kicks in.

There will likely be a capacity limit but it could be in the very low thousands which is no good for our games.

Its then up to the SPFL whether they will postpone games or force games to go ahead. There may be very small amount of funding from Scot Gov ( taken from the £220m Scotland got on Sunday from Uk Gov). Doubt that will be enough to fully compensate for behind closed doors. Pressure from clubs and fans will be to postpone games therefore - its planned for 2 games so should be ok to slot them in at some point.

Not sure what Sky will have to say about it.....

Rangers would likely be happy to play behind close doors as they are not getting any tickets to Parkhead anyway. So they are the outlier.

Prospect of a rearranged nightime derby under the lights is good so hoping the right thing is done here.

Don't think the funding we got was anything extra, it's what we were due in 2022 anyway but a wee bit early

[bingo70]

:agree: Postponements are inevitable I think.

Till when though?

We’ve seen this movie before

[Billy Whizz]

:agree: Postponements are inevitable I think.

Much better than behind close doors

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Two full houses at Tynie derbies and and empty ER on the third? We should seek to swap fixtures so we go to them on the third and host them at Easter Road before the split. Not sure what we do about a post split fixture, split revenues gained?
Or is that all too fair and goodwill spirited.

[Billy Whizz]

Till when though?

We’ve seen this movie before

We’ve got a 3 week winter break after that

[Callum_62]

Two full houses at Tynie derbies and and empty ER on the third? We should seek to swap fixtures so we go to them on the third and host them at Easter Road before the split. Not sure what we do about a post split fixture, split revenues gained?
Or is that all too fair and goodwill spirited.

For hearts - aye

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[LaMotta]

Don't think the funding we got was anything extra, it's what we were due in 2022 anyway but a wee bit early

That was the case for the first £220m announced last week so you are right about that mate. Sunday's announcement was to double that though - so there is more money about now for Covid spend.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59721197.amp

Don't expect football to see much of it though.:cb

[LaMotta]

Till when though?

We’ve seen this movie before

Winter break ends on 26th January. This is intended to be a circuit breaker so event restrictions should be over by then ( yes I know I know they might not be....)

But its only 2 fixtures that have to be slotted in. Need to give best chance of playing games with fans so postponements make sense.

[pacoluna]

The smart thing to do here would be to move this, and the Glasgow Derby back a few weeks in the hope that fans can attend. Effectively bringing forward the winter break.

Until the next varient comes along

[Billy Whizz]

Winter break ends on 26th January. This is intended to be a circuit breaker so event restrictions should be over by then ( yes I know I know they might not be....)

But its only 2 fixtures that have to be slotted in. Need to give best chance of playing games with fans so postponements make sense.

We play Cove in the Scottish cup in Thursday 20th

[bingo70]

We’ve got a 3 week winter break after that

Do you think things will improve again that quickly?

Once we’re locked down and stadiums are shut or restricted it will be for much longer than that.

[LaMotta]

We play Cove in the Scottish cup in Thursday 20th

Restrictions due to be lifted on 16th/17th so that would be ok if circuit breaker goes to plan.

[Yorkshire HFC]

I don't live in Edinburgh and wouldn't be going, but after the stress and worry of whether or not to go to the cup final, and then after having gone, the worry of whether I caught anything, I won't be going to any big events in the near future if I can help it.

Which is a sad way to have to live life - but the risk isn't worth it for me I'm afraid.

[Steven79]

We play Cove in the Scottish cup in Thursday 20th

It's live on TV and I don't think the crowd would have been that big anyway.

[BegbieHSC]

Id rather they postponed Scottish football till the end of January, as opposed to putting it behind closed doors. Give the players a break, and a bit of distance from the virus too.

The derby isn’t happening at full capacity, nor is Dundee United Away or Celtic Away. I think we know that. Tomorrow night will still go ahead, but I reckon that’ll come with advice not to attend.

[LunasBoots]

Until the next varient comes along

That's the issue,next winter and for the foreseeable future we are going toget new variants, what is going to happen in years to come surely can't be sustainable to lockdown every year

[Billy Whizz]

Do you think things will improve again that quickly?

Once we’re locked down and stadiums are shut or restricted it will be for much longer than that.

No idea Bingo, just gives us a window

[Sir David Gray]

Do you think things will improve again that quickly?

Once we’re locked down and stadiums are shut or restricted it will be for much longer than that.

:agree: If football crowds are banned from Boxing Day, people are going to be bitterly disappointed if they think the ban will be lifted after 3 weeks.

[Ronniekirk]

Looks like a decision could be made today about outside large events over the next few weeks


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[norhfc]

Theres only one answer...relegate Hearts !! :agree:

[lord bunberry]

Do you think things will improve again that quickly?

Once we’re locked down and stadiums are shut or restricted it will be for much longer than that.
If restrictions are still in place after the winter shutdown, then we start playing games with no fans or whoever many were allowed in. It would only leave 2 games to fit in at a later date, hopefully with full capacity.

[bingo70]

No idea Bingo, just gives us a window

Yeah, I’m maybe just sceptical, it just feels like history is repeating itself here.

In a few weeks time are they really going to say ‘right, that’s it, we’re all good now, this omicron isn’t as big an issue any more’

I don’t see it. The plan for now will be a short circuit breaker but it’ll go further than that IMO.

[bingo70]

Theres only one answer...relegate Hearts !! :agree:

Demote

[Hibs90]

The smart thing to do here would be to move this, and the Glasgow Derby back a few weeks in the hope that fans can attend. Effectively bringing forward the winter break.

You expecting the SPFL/SFA to make a sensible decision with Dungcaster in charge? :greengrin

[Antifa Hibs]

Id rather they postponed Scottish football till the end of January, as opposed to putting it behind closed doors. Give the players a break, and a bit of distance from the virus too.

The derby isn’t happening at full capacity, nor is Dundee United Away or Celtic Away. I think we know that. Tomorrow night will still go ahead, but I reckon that’ll come with advice not to attend.

Season can't be extended due to Nations League games in June, then you've got the world cup in December 2022 so think the start of next season has been brought forward. Throw in a potentially harsh winter with one or two call-offs, Scottish cup replays, OF in Europe still and you could be looking at serious fixture congestion. Think it will be closed doors which is gutting although hoping for reduced capacity. No away fans, 8000 home fans spread over the 4 stands? Although thats wishful thinking more than anything.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Indoor shopping malls are fine but outdoor football grounds are covid hotspots apparently...

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More a case of the way fans get to the stadiums on rammed public transport and supporters buses and how many of then cannot resist the need to cram into pubs for a skinfull in unsafe numbers fore hand

[Keith_M]

A lot of people seem to be getting worked up about hypothetical scenarios.

Maybe everybody could put their pitchforks and torches away until we know the facts.





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[hibbysam]

With each passing day our situation gets worse, I work for a family business near Callander and the amount of customers coming in over the past week isn't enought to keep us going.

If something dosen't happen soon then myself and others will be let go as our boss can't pay our wages out of his own pocket as that's what the Government expect by the looks of it.

January is usally a slow month after Christmas but if we don't have Christmas/New Year boost before January where will that leave us and many other places in hospitality?

Totally agree, and when hospitality goes so does all the hair and beauty sector, the suppliers (food and drink), the taxis, just about everything else that all relies so heavily on our hospitality industry.

[hibbysam]

Season can't be extended due to Nations League games in June, then you've got the world cup in December 2022 so think the start of next season has been brought forward. Throw in a potentially harsh winter with one or two call-offs, Scottish cup replays, OF in Europe still and you could be looking at serious fixture congestion. Think it will be closed doors which is gutting although hoping for reduced capacity. No away fans, 8000 home fans spread over the 4 stands? Although thats wishful thinking more than anything.

There is no Scottish cup replays from round 4 onwards.

[Pretty Boy]

Do you think things will improve again that quickly?

Once we’re locked down and stadiums are shut or restricted it will be for much longer than that.

I always say past behavior is a better indicator of future behaviour than words.

No short break, circuit breaker, 2 week window or whatever else they have been called has ever been that. They have habitually been kept in place for months.

A 'circuit breaker' makes more palatable reading and is arguably an easier sell to the public. Once it's in place though it will be reviewed and extended for considerably longer. I wouldn't even argue some kind of shutdown isn't necessary, it probably is, but let's go into it with our eyes open. Anyone truly believing this will be for a couple of weeks is going to be sorely disappointed.

[LunasBoots]

Do you think things will improve again that quickly?

Once we’re locked down and stadiums are shut or restricted it will be for much longer than that.

Personally don't think so, I think we've waited far too long which means infections will remain high for a longer period of time (though still not sure how serious those infections are)

[JimBHibees]

We're getting to the point where we'll be locked down to protect those who don't want to be protected.

Pretty accurate that. Was seeing the EPL announcing that thy had an increased percentage of players double vacced. Something like seven put of ten. Yippee.

[Gordy M]

I always say past behavior is a better indicator of future behaviour than words.

No short break, circuit breaker, 2 week window or whatever else they have been called has ever been that. They have habitually been kept in place for months.

A 'circuit breaker' makes more palatable reading and is arguably an easier sell to the public. Once it's in place though it will be reviewed and extended for considerably longer. I wouldn't even argue some kind of shutdown isn't necessary, it probably is, but let's go into it with our eyes open. Anyone truly believing this will be for a couple of weeks is going to be sorely disappointed.

Well rightly or wrongly, it will come down to cash. The Scot Gov might have enough cash for a 2 week circuit breaker, but no more(depending on money from Westminster). If England dont go into any lockdown i can see Scot Gov having a 'lockdown' until the cash runs out whether thats 2 weeks or longer.

[JimBHibees]

More a case of the way fans get to the stadiums on rammed public transport and supporters buses and how many of then cannot resist the need to cram into pubs for a skinfull in unsafe numbers fore hand

Which is exactly the same as shoppers except they are in much more numbers and predominantly indoor.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Which is exactly the same as shoppers except they are in much more numbers and predominantly indoor.

...and now subject to capacity restriction in shops as of last Friday.

[Hibbyradge]

I actually think that an extended break would be good for Shaun Maloney.

It would give him time to implement his ideas, give players a rest from an incredibly busy schedule and, hopefully, get our injured players back.

Playing games behind closed doors would be the least ideal scenario.

[Green Badger]

So it seems reasonably likely that we’ll follow the Welsh announcement and ban spectators from Boxing Day onwards.

Next I suppose the decision is up to the SPFL, go ahead behind closed doors or postpone.

Personally I’d hope they choose to postpone, but guess that’s maybe unlikely for scheduling reasons?

Someone said (Jason Leitch maybe?) they expected peak infections at end of Jan early Feb, so it doesn’t look too promising that this will be a short term measure.

[Hibbyradge]

Which is exactly the same as shoppers except they are in much more numbers and predominantly indoor.

Shopping is necessary, watching sport isn't.

Shoppers aren't usually drunk or coked up. They don't sing or jump around cuddling each other and they don't smoke in the toilets, allowing others to enjoy their exhaled breath hanging in the air.

At least, I think that's the case. Necessary or not, I 'kin hate shopping so avoid it as much as possible.

[LunasBoots]

...and now subject to capacity restriction in shops as of last Friday.

Cant say I've seen many supermarkets in Edinburgh adhering to that

[Antifa Hibs]

There is no Scottish cup replays from round 4 onwards.

Fair enough, could/should free up a midweek slot or two then

:aok:

[JimBHibees]

Shopping is necessary, watching sport isn't.

Shoppers aren't usually drunk or coked up. They don't sing or jump around cuddling each other and they don't smoke in the toilets, allowing others to enjoy their exhaled breath hanging in the air.

At least, I think that's the case. Necessary or not, I 'kin hate shopping so avoid it as much as possible.

Your description sounds pretty much like every shopping experience I have had. :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

...and now subject to capacity restriction in shops as of last Friday.

Wasn't aware of that

[Waxy]

Utter crap all this. The difference this time is we’ve all been double or triple jabbed.

[Keith_M]

The most sensible thing (I know, it's the SPFL) would be to bring the mid season break forward by two weeks, and just move some games

e.g.

Dec 22 - v Aberdeen

....then ...

Jan 15 - v D-Utd (moved)
Jan 19 - v Celtc (moved)
Jan 22 - v Hearts (moved)

Jan 26 - v Motherwell

[Hermit Crab]

The most sensible thing (I know, it's the SPFL) would be to bring the mid season break forward by two weeks, and just move some games

e.g.

Dec 22 - v Aberdeen

....then ...

Jan 15 - v D-Utd (moved)
Jan 19 - v Celtc (moved)
Jan 22 - v Hearts (moved)

Jan 26 - v Motherwell


When do we play the Cove Rangers game then?

[Keith_M]

When do we play the Cove Rangers game then?


I didn't claim my plan was perfect!

:greengrin

[Hermit Crab]

I didn't claim my plan was perfect!

:greengrin


:tee hee:

[LunasBoots]

When do we play the Cove Rangers game then?

Cancel it this season, fit more league games in.

[JGS56]

When do we play the Cove Rangers game then?

Cove game is on Thursday 20 Jan.

Hearts game would be moved to Sunday 23 for TV.

Motherwell already on Wednesday 26.

Problem solved.

[Islington Hibs]

I am sure she will ban it that’s the ways she is. Control and ban.

The contrast with London is extraordinary. Relative freedom, until recently no masks, restaurants and theatres full and Sturgeons ridiculous control freekery couldn’t be greater.

At the start of this crisis fair enough when the risks were not clear but two years later mad. Covid is not a great risk other than for a small number of high risk groups. The damage to mental health, children, well being and many other areas is huge and barely considered. High time we took responsibility for our own decisions. Those who want to shelter fine, those who don’t fine too. Fat chance of that.

[wookie70]

If they do stop attendance then it is another cowardly act as far as I am concerned. You get far more bang for the buck slowing transmission early rather than late and if Omicron is such a threat games should have been behind closed doors a week ago. The SG, if they do stop large events, will basically try to keep Christmas as close to normal at the expense of public health.

[Scooter]

The government can bolt with this. South Africa and America are doing nothing. South Africa numbers are on the way back down.

Sky news last night had this in their report:

In Britain, 12 people infected with Omicron have died, while 104 people with the variant are in hospital, according to latest figures from the UK Health Security Agency

12 people infected with it have died (its terrible people have died but out of thoes 12 how many would have died anyway with it or without it)

104 people in hospital with it. How many of thoes went to hospital because of it. In south Africa its something silly like 80% of the people in hospital with didnt known they had it, they were going in for surgeries and pregnancies etc.

[Hibbyradge]

Your description sounds pretty much like every shopping experience I have had. :greengrin

:greengrin

[Hibernian Verse]

Write this season off and start "Summer" football from March-October.

[GreenPJ]

The government can bolt with this. South Africa and America are doing nothing. South Africa numbers are on the way back down.

Sky news last night had this in their report:

In Britain, 12 people infected with Omicron have died, while 104 people with the variant are in hospital, according to latest figures from the UK Health Security Agency

12 people infected with it have died (its terrible people have died but out of thoes 12 how many would have died anyway with it or without it)

104 people in hospital with it. How many of thoes went to hospital because of it. In south Africa its something silly like 80% of the people in hospital with didnt known they had it, they were going in for surgeries and pregnancies etc.

The Governments (Westminster, Scottish, Welsh, NI) biggest concern is impact on NHS. That is as much about the numbers needing to be hospitalised will go up (it won't be linear with the number of cases but it will go up just due to the volume of people who will contract this very transmissable strain) coupled with the number of NHS staff who will have to self-isolate because they themselves have caught it. More patients, less staff at the busiest time of the year along with the fact that the NHS has been hammered for decades but particularly over the last 2 years can only lead to some form of action by the governments.

[we are hibs]

Another "4 week break" then all of a sudden it'll be May [emoji849]

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[blackpoolhibs]

I'd say the most sensible thing to do would be having a lockdown for everyone who's not vaccinated, and let the rest of the country go about their business as normal.

I include players in that.

[hibbysam]

I'd say the most sensible thing to do would be having a lockdown for everyone who's not vaccinated, and let the rest of the country go about their business as normal.

I include players in that.

When they’re saying that the original vaccines now don’t work as well and needing boosters then that would be fairly harsh. They could tell us in % terms what numbers in hospital/ICU/deaths now are vaccinated/unvaccinated- which I’d imagine would be weighted heavily towards unvaccinated and get the fear out of everyone else’s system.

[LunasBoots]

Another "4 week break" then all of a sudden it'll be May [emoji849]

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Most likely, then next winter 'mexican variant' let's shut down again, not going to be sustainable

[bingo70]

I'd say the most sensible thing to do would be having a lockdown for everyone who's not vaccinated, and let the rest of the country go about their business as normal.

I include players in that.

Stop testing players who have been triple jabbed.

Watch how quickly clubs are able to get their players jabbed if that’s the plan.

[blackpoolhibs]

When they’re saying that the original vaccines now don’t work as well and needing boosters then that would be fairly harsh. They could tell us in % terms what numbers in hospital/ICU/deaths now are vaccinated/unvaccinated- which I’d imagine would be weighted heavily towards unvaccinated and get the fear out of everyone else’s system.

I've had two vaccines and the booster, most folk are elibible for these now, shut the country down for those without the 3 jabs, and see how quickly they get jabbed.

[declan macmanus]

Cove game is on Thursday 20 Jan.

Hearts game would be moved to Sunday 23 for TV.

Motherwell already on Wednesday 26.

Problem solved.

With the added benefit that Hearts play Auchinleck on Saturday 22 so would be knackered and disillusioned after being pumped out the cup...

[Pretty Boy]

When they’re saying that the original vaccines now don’t work as well and needing boosters then that would be fairly harsh. They could tell us in % terms what numbers in hospital/ICU/deaths now are vaccinated/unvaccinated- which I’d imagine would be weighted heavily towards unvaccinated and get the fear out of everyone else’s system.

Those figures are available.

Whilst in absolute numbers there are more vaccinated than unvaccinated in hospital (which makes sense when tens of millions more are in the former camp than the latter) the figures per 100K show that if you are unvaccinated you are far more likely to get ill, be hospitalised and when in there require treatment in ICU.

[Hermit Crab]

This is doing the rounds on social
Media. Have to say it does look legit.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211221/7b56aff353a6677e3212404429e662bb.jpg

[GibbytheHibby2]

End the season now and just apply last season’s finishing places, except no promotion this time. 😉

[Hibbyradge]

End the season now and just apply last season’s finishing places, except no promotion this time. 😉

#demotestjohnstone

[Keith_M]

End the season now and just apply last season’s finishing places, except no promotion this time. 😉


Definitely need to 'relegate' Hearts again.

Seems ages since that last happened.

[wookie70]

This could be a huge financial hit for us. Potentially looking at about 6k walk ups lost. Not to mention all the packages that were sold with the big promise of a guaranteed Derby Ticket. For once I would actually try and engage the Uglies and also the Dundee Clubs. These are the biggest games fans go to in the league and everything should be done to get them played with fans present

[JimBHibees]

This is doing the rounds on social
Media. Have to say it does look legit.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211221/7b56aff353a6677e3212404429e662bb.jpg

Can't see it however someone will be getting sacked if it is I assume

[Steve88]

I've had two vaccines and the booster, most folk are elibible for these now, shut the country down for those without the 3 jabs, and see how quickly they get jabbed.

What a load of nonsense....!!!

Where does it then end.. Booster number 72?

The impact on shutting the country down in terms of social, economic, education and mental welfare far outweigh the cons of a virus which is continually to trend downwards in terms of death (real impact) - We're at the stage we're it's on a parallel with prior influenza season's

It's viewpoints like this which make it never ending cycle

[JimBHibees]

I've had two vaccines and the booster, most folk are elibible for these now, shut the country down for those without the 3 jabs, and see how quickly they get jabbed.

Agree with that.

[Sioux]

I'd say the most sensible thing to do would be having a lockdown for everyone who's not vaccinated, and let the rest of the country go about their business as normal.

I include players in that.

Indeed. If you've not been vac'd - vak off. :greengrin

[Helensburghhibs]

Anyone who agrees with cancelling large outdoor events surely haven't been atte ding anyway as they are concerned about their safety? Is there any evidence whatsoever of transmissions at the football.?

[LancashireHibby]

Anyone who agrees with cancelling large outdoor events surely haven't been atte ding anyway as they are concerned about their safety? Is there any evidence whatsoever of transmissions at the football.?
There were significant spikes after the Euros, weren't there?

I'm fully expecting games to be behind closed doors from Boxing Day onward (mirroring Wales). The derby won't get rescheduled purely because there isn't much room in the calendar, plus Sky will still want their pound of flesh.

The suggestion of a crowd of 500 would be a surprising twist, no doubt with the angle that it allows clubs to 'still have some income' (and in turn disqualify them from any financial support)

It does make the Covid passport thing all a bit of a farce though as surely the whole point was that everybody was jabbed and/or negative.

Behind closed doors in England from Dec 28th is quite the persistent rumour down here.

[davidbee1875]

She’s lost the dressing room

[SteveHFC]

She’s lost the dressing room

I’ve always voted for them but can’t anymore.

[The dalmeny]

Anyone who agrees with cancelling large outdoor events surely haven't been atte ding anyway as they are concerned about their safety? Is there any evidence whatsoever of transmissions at the football.?

i think this is fair comment. I would have expected the track and trace people would know but I’m not sure the info ever gets public

[Helensburghhibs]

There were significant spikes after the Euros, weren't there?

I'm fully expecting games to be behind closed doors from Boxing Day onward (mirroring Wales). The derby won't get rescheduled purely because there isn't much room in the calendar, plus Sky will still want their pound of flesh.

The suggestion of a crowd of 500 would be a surprising twist, no doubt with the angle that it allows clubs to 'still have some income' (and in turn disqualify them from any financial support)

It does make the Covid passport thing all a bit of a farce though as surely the whole point was that everybody was jabbed and/or negative.

Behind closed doors in England from Dec 28th is quite the persistent rumour down here.

I have no idea mate. I dont know anyone who got ill following the jolly to London or any other game or gathering for that matter.

I will consider getting a refund on my st this year though if it does go that way and the clubs don't get together to fight challenge it.

[Rumble de Thump]

I am sure she will ban it that’s the ways she is. Control and ban.

The contrast with London is extraordinary. Relative freedom, until recently no masks, restaurants and theatres full and Sturgeons ridiculous control freekery couldn’t be greater.

At the start of this crisis fair enough when the risks were not clear but two years later mad. Covid is not a great risk other than for a small number of high risk groups. The damage to mental health, children, well being and many other areas is huge and barely considered. High time we took responsibility for our own decisions. Those who want to shelter fine, those who don’t fine too. Fat chance of that.

Isn't London the place where a major incident was declared due to a surge in Omicron cases?

[LancashireHibby]

I have no idea mate. I dont know anyone who got ill following the jolly to London or any other game or gathering for that matter.

I will consider getting a refund on my st this year though if it does go that way and the clubs don't get together to fight challenge it.

Link here (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/30/surge-in-scottish-covid-cases-raises-euro-2020-safety-concerns)

[Hibernian Verse]

I have no idea mate. I dont know anyone who got ill following the jolly to London or any other game or gathering for that matter.

I will consider getting a refund on my st this year though if it does go that way and the clubs don't get together to fight challenge it.

That's the spirit. You know fine well the clubs can do nothing.

Do you want Ben Kensell at Holyrood with a pitchfork?

[Mikey]

Can't see it however someone will be getting sacked if it is I assume

I'd say it is legit. Try reading it in her voice!

It's also a LOT longer than it needs to be to get to the point. Another of her traits.

[Helensburghhibs]

Link here (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/30/surge-in-scottish-covid-cases-raises-euro-2020-safety-concerns)

Notice I was talking about people getting ill and not "tests" or "cases"

I'm genuinely interested on people's experiences if you take away tv and newspapers

[sleeping giant]

Indoor shopping malls are fine but outdoor football grounds are covid hotspots apparently...

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Here we go.....

[Steven79]

This is doing the rounds on social
Media. Have to say it does look legit.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211221/7b56aff353a6677e3212404429e662bb.jpg

Does Ron Gordon want to organise a wedding on the 3rd at the same time as the derby is on?

Someone gets married on the pitch at half time and all season ticket holders are invited...

[number9dream]

If another ban on fans comes to pass, I think they'll use stretched emergency services due to isolating etc as a line, can't spare the cops etc.

[Pretty Boy]

i think this is fair comment. I would have expected the track and trace people would know but I’m not sure the info ever gets public

I'm not sure test and protect is all that thorough.

I got a call on Sunday and was asked 3 questions about whether I had been abroad, to a healthcare setting or somewhere else that I can't recall then told to fill out a form I had been emailed.

I filled out the form and my partner got a text telling her to get a PCR (already done 3 days before contact was made) and to isolate. No one in my work either as a company or as individuals has been contacted. Likewise my parents have heard nothing despite being included on the form.

[Antifa Hibs]

There were significant spikes after the Euros, weren't there?

I'm fully expecting games to be behind closed doors from Boxing Day onward (mirroring Wales). The derby won't get rescheduled purely because there isn't much room in the calendar, plus Sky will still want their pound of flesh.

The suggestion of a crowd of 500 would be a surprising twist, no doubt with the angle that it allows clubs to 'still have some income' (and in turn disqualify them from any financial support)

It does make the Covid passport thing all a bit of a farce though as surely the whole point was that everybody was jabbed and/or negative.

Behind closed doors in England from Dec 28th is quite the persistent rumour down here.


Which ironically would cost clubs money. 500 with no gate receipts but a fair bit expenses - not that politician's give a **** about football.

[Helensburghhibs]

That's the spirit. You know fine well the clubs can do nothing.

Do you want Ben Kensell at Holyrood with a pitchfork?

It's a decision I would need to make. How long I cam continue to pay for something when not getting the goods? I use my st to do stuff with my boy. If that's not an option I will spend ot on an alternative that will let me? Is that not fair enough?

[Mikey]

If the attendance is cut to 500 for the derby there's a good chance there will be a ballot. They were going to do that for the cup final in May and that was for around 200 tickets.

[Steven79]

It's a decision I would need to make. How long I cam continue to pay for something when not getting the goods? I use my st to do stuff with my boy. If that's not an option I will spend ot on an alternative that will let me? Is that not fair enough?

I agree totally!

[HH81]

If the attendance is cut to 500 for the derby there's a good chance there will be a ballot. They were going to do that for the cup final in May and that was for around 200 tickets.

If that's the case who goes into it? Everyone who has a season ticket or everyone who has baught a ticket for the hibs end?

[LaMotta]

If the attendance is cut to 500 for the derby there's a good chance there will be a ballot. They were going to do that for the cup final in May and that was for around 200 tickets.

A ballot would be a disgrace in those circumstances. It should be full capacity or no fans at all.

[lord bunberry]

Does Ron Gordon want to organise a wedding on the 3rd at the same time as the derby is on?

Someone gets married on the pitch at half time and all season ticket holders are invited...
That would be interesting if they tried that. :greengrin

[Coco Bryce]

No evidence that cases have came from Football crowds.

[Hermit Crab]

The other half of the leaked email.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211221/6d5890538c7fa1a88372b892d2f92ea4.jpg

[hibby rae]

Indoor shopping malls are fine but outdoor football grounds are covid hotspots apparently...

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Tbf, given the stories about the Hampden toilets, I'm not sure it's like that at St James Centre. People will also mask up for the malls.

[Mikey]

If that's the case who goes into it?

Don't ask me, ask the ticket police. I'm sure he'll be along soon with a plan :hilarious

[LaMotta]

The other half of the leaked email.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211221/6d5890538c7fa1a88372b892d2f92ea4.jpg

Is that from twitter mate? Do you have a link to the original post/tweet?

[LancashireHibby]

Which ironically would cost clubs money. 500 with no gate receipts but a fair bit expenses - not that politician's give a **** about football.
Absolutely. File alongside pubs being "allowed to serve outdoors" as seems likely - Government(s) will argue that they aren't therefore being prevented from trading and are subsequently ineligible for any financial support, despite takings being a tiny fraction of the norm, with much the same operating costs.

[Steven79]

No evidence that cases have came from Football crowds.

When has that ever stopped them?

[Hermit Crab]

Is that from twitter mate? Do you have a link to the original post/tweet?


Nah, sent to me via whatsapp but I've since seen it on twitter when scrolling earlier.

[Steve88]

If another ban on fans comes to pass, I think they'll use stretched emergency services due to isolating etc as a line, can't spare the cops etc.

Which in turn isn't because of the virus, but because of the procedures (isolation 10 days) put in place by policy makers.

It'll bring the economy to a standstill like it did in Q1/Q2 20221 causing further supply chain issues therefore continuing to push prices up

[wookie70]

Christmas must be the single biggest event for the young to mix with the old. The young have far bigger infection rates and the old are at far more danger from Covid. It is utter madness to do everything to keep Christmas on and do it at time where the doubling isn't a huge number and then cancel large events after all the doubling and all the indoor mixing of the old and young. The SG have lost the plot imo and the social contract that was so strong in the early days of Covid is now a distant memory after decisions that have simply made no sense. Next to the vaccine the social contract is probably the biggest factor in fighting Covid. I feel people are now starting to just ignore any guidelines and only laws which are enforced will prove successful.

[JimBHibees]

It's a decision I would need to make. How long I cam continue to pay for something when not getting the goods? I use my st to do stuff with my boy. If that's not an option I will spend ot on an alternative that will let me? Is that not fair enough?

You are able to watch the games via Hibs tv as a season ticket holder.

[wookie70]

You are able to watch the games via Hibs tv as a season ticket holder.

I'd love to see a gym try that. You can lift cans of beans and run up the stairs at home so keep paying your subscription. This isn't Hibs fault but it is up to Hibs and other clubs to at least fight the madness.

[BoomtownHibees]

You are able to watch the games via Hibs tv as a season ticket holder.

There’s not many folk who buy a season ticket to watch the games on the telly though. I reckon there will be a lot more this time who choose to get money back, if it’s even an option

[Steven79]

There’s not many folk who buy a season ticket to watch the games on the telly though. I reckon there will be a lot more this time who choose to get money back, if it’s even an option

Didn't Hibs change the terms and conditions of Season tickets last year?

[JeMeSouviens]

Christmas must be the single biggest event for the young to mix with the old. The young have far bigger infection rates and the old are at far more danger from Covid. It is utter madness to do everything to keep Christmas on and do it at time where the doubling isn't a huge number and then cancel large events after all the doubling and all the indoor mixing of the old and young. The SG have lost the plot imo and the social contract that was so strong in the early days of Covid is now a distant memory after decisions that have simply made no sense. Next to the vaccine the social contract is probably the biggest factor in fighting Covid. I feel people are now starting to just ignore any guidelines and only laws which are enforced will prove successful.

I agree with your first half but there are far more people in Scotland hung up on the notion of a "family xmas" than there are on going to the football. Same as last year, we ushered in a huge spike and thousands of deaths for a festival nominally about a religion most of us don't believe in. It's bizarre stuff. :dunno:

[Magpie]

I think postponing the derby is the best way to go if supporters aren’t able to attend. Will probably be on my tenth jab by the time it comes around.

[Danderhall Hibs]

There’s not many folk who buy a season ticket to watch the games on the telly though. I reckon there will be a lot more this time who choose to get money back, if it’s even an option

It won’t be - we got nothing last season either (despite the club getting the insurance payout).

Wonder what they’ll do for those who bought a one off ticket for the max?

Surely if this is true the SPFL just bring the winter break forward by a week?

[blackpoolhibs]

What a load of nonsense....!!!

Where does it then end.. Booster number 72?

The impact on shutting the country down in terms of social, economic, education and mental welfare far outweigh the cons of a virus which is continually to trend downwards in terms of death (real impact) - We're at the stage we're it's on a parallel with prior influenza season's

It's viewpoints like this which make it never ending cycle

If it takes it to end on booster 72, it will be because of idiots ignoring the evidence and refusing the vaccine.

Anyone who wont get jabbed should be made to stay indoors until such time as they want to take the jab, it will soon weed out the imbiciles who cant be arsed helping the country get back to normal.

Most of the country are jabbed, it's mainly the unjabbed who are clogging up the health service.

[JimBHibees]

There’s not many folk who buy a season ticket to watch the games on the telly though. I reckon there will be a lot more this time who choose to get money back, if it’s even an option

Don't think anyone does but it does provide the opportunity to watch? Personally hope the games are cancelled for a few weeks. The winter break allows some leeway. Would be rubbish the Derby being behind closed doors

[Sir David Gray]

There’s not many folk who buy a season ticket to watch the games on the telly though. I reckon there will be a lot more this time who choose to get money back, if it’s even an option

I can't see a refund being an option. I'm sure Hibs have written it into this season's Ts and Cs that a season ticket allows you to watch all home league games either in person at Easter Road or at home on Hibs TV.

[JeMeSouviens]

If it takes it to end on booster 72, it will be because of idiots ignoring the evidence and refusing the vaccine.

Anyone who wont get jabbed should be made to stay indoors until such time as they want to take the jab, it will soon weed out the imbiciles who cant be arsed helping the country get back to normal.

Most of the country are jabbed, it's mainly the unjabbed who are clogging up the health service.

Or sign a waiver to any right to nhs treatment.

[wookie70]

If it takes it to end on booster 72, it will be because of idiots ignoring the evidence and refusing the vaccine.

Anyone who wont get jabbed should be made to stay indoors until such time as they want to take the jab, it will soon weed out the imbiciles who cant be arsed helping the country get back to normal.

Most of the country are jabbed, it's mainly the unjabbed who are clogging up the health service.

But you need a vaccine or passport to get into ER so cancelling football would not make a difference. AI wonder whether the Christmas Markets will be closed. That is far more than 500 people all mixing in very close quarters

[Rumble de Thump]

The good thing about watching the games at home is I can do my bicep curls with tins of beans at the same time.

[wookie70]

Or sign a waiver to any right to nhs treatment.

I really think that is dangerous talk. Why should they have to do that. They could have kept themselves to themselves and caught covid anywhere from someone that was vaccinated. Once you go down that line then anyone who smokes, drinks, is overweight, plays sport etc etc etc should be stopped from treatment. It really worries me how easily citizens are willing to withhold liberty from parts of society. All a bit 1930s if you ask me(that is in general and not aimed at the quoted poster)

[wookie70]

There will be refunds due for those that bought packages as the guarantee was a ticket not a guarantee to watch.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/new-five-game-package-available

[Helensburghhibs]

You are able to watch the games via Hibs tv as a season ticket holder.

I can watch games without a ST so that isn't something that interests me

[hibby rae]

But you need a vaccine or passport to get into ER so cancelling football would not make a difference. AI wonder whether the Christmas Markets will be closed. That is far more than 500 people all mixing in very close quarters

I think I've only been asked once at ER for my passport, and you do have some folk on here like 'flash anything, they never check anyway'

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

The pitch and stadium is a place of work so as long as the half time treats are cheese and wine, every supporter who goes wears a suit, and perhaps takes notes on the match by journaling their thoughts on a mobile phone…we should be fine for capacity crowds.

[Helensburghhibs]

The first step out of thus is surely to stop healthy, well people isolating for 10 days.

[JeMeSouviens]

I really think that is dangerous talk. Why should they have to do that. They could have kept themselves to themselves and caught covid anywhere from someone that was vaccinated. Once you go down that line then anyone who smokes, drinks, is overweight, plays sport etc etc etc should be stopped from treatment. It really worries me how easily citizens are willing to withhold liberty from parts of society. All a bit 1930s if you ask me(that is in general and not aimed at the quoted poster)

Ja, I vas only der halfen serious and I get the counter arguments. But I do feel a bit frustrated that the Billy Big Baws "it's only a flu" brigade don't put their money where their mouth is when push comes to shove.

[SteveHFC]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/football-matches-scotland-limited-500-25754343

500 fans at games only again. Surely not.

[Since452]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/football-matches-scotland-limited-500-25754343

500 fans at games only again. Surely not.

Should be all or nothing

[SteveHFC]

Should be all or nothing

If this is only for 3 weeks. Postpone the remaining games and play later on in the season.

[HH81]

Should be all or nothing

If it's all they have to pay so this is their way of screwing clubs without no financial consequences?

[bingo70]

Should be all or nothing

Hopefully folk start taking to the streets to protest here soon.

This can’t keep going on.

[one day maybe...]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/football-matches-scotland-limited-500-25754343

500 fans at games only again. Surely not.

Yeah just read this

[Steven79]

If it's all they have to pay so this is their way of screwing people without no financial consequences?

And people will remember when it comes to voting next time round.

The whole of Scotland should adopt "NoneOfTheAbove" from now on as every single politician has let Scotland down over the past few years.

[SteveHFC]

Hopefully folk start taking to the streets to protest here soon.

This can’t keep going on.

Going by the reaction I've seen today. I've not seen one person defending this.

[Billy Whizz]

There will be refunds due for those that bought packages as the guarantee was a ticket not a guarantee to watch.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/new-five-game-package-available

Looks like I’ll get a refund for my Dundee Utd and Celtic away games, if I’m not one of the 500 that would get into the Derby, will I get season ticket credit

[Sir David Gray]

Looks like I’ll get a refund for my Dundee Utd and Celtic away games, if I’m not one of the 500 that would get into the Derby, will I get season ticket credit

I wouldn't have thought so.

[Callum_62]

Hopefully folk start taking to the streets to protest here soon.

This can’t keep going on.If only we could find a leader on here

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[Sir David Gray]

If this is only for 3 weeks. Postpone the remaining games and play later on in the season.

I'd be absolutely astonished if this only lasts for 3 weeks.

[Callum_62]

If this is only for 3 weeks. Postpone the remaining games and play later on in the season.Yep, 3 games down and winter break follows it

Surely we could fit 3 rounds of games in 2022?

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[Callum_62]

I'd be absolutely astonished if this only lasts for 3 weeks.Winter break ends what 4-5 weeks away?



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[wookie70]

Looks like I’ll get a refund for my Dundee Utd and Celtic away games, if I’m not one of the 500 that would get into the Derby, will I get season ticket credit
Doubt it as the HibsTV clause will kick in and you will be able to "watch" the game. Not Hibs fault though but eventually the value of a ST will come into question.

[LunasBoots]

Disgraceful, say goodbye to my vote Nicola

[dp00]

I’m all for restrictions but if it’s that important why we waiting till 26th ? Too me this is purely with the old firm and our hearts game in mind

I expect hibs not to take this lying down


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[HH81]

Least we can all still get the tram to primark and pick up 100 seven quid jumpers in the warm indoor shopping centre.

Saturday afternoon entertainment.

[wookie70]

Hopefully folk start taking to the streets to protest here soon.

This can’t keep going on. There was a decent sized protest on Covid Passports from what I saw on twitter. I think the protest will come in the form of not voting SNP.

[SteveHFC]

https://twitter.com/mcgowan_stephen/status/1473295042949394434?s=21

Informal chat underway between Scottish Premiership clubs over bringing the winter break forward a week if, as expected, new 500 fan limit is imposed on outdoor events. Views of Sky Sports key.

[OstKurve Hibs]

Hopefully folk start taking to the streets to protest here soon.

This can’t keep going on.

It's already happening, I've been to 4 marches in the last 2 months, people have had enough and numbers are growing.

[JeMeSouviens]

https://twitter.com/mcgowan_stephen/status/1473295042949394434?s=21


Views of Sky Sports key.

Yeah, don't worry about your ****ing paying customers. :rolleyes:

[Coco Bryce]

I've had enough of this ****.

Are the Scottish Government going to compensate me for my ST?

[Steven79]

Least we can all still get the tram to primark and pick up 100 seven quid jumpers in the warm indoor shopping centre.

Saturday afternoon entertainment.

****ing joke mate.

They can stick it up their arse!

[Steven79]

Disgraceful, say goodbye to my vote Nicola

My SNP membership gets cancelled for good if they go ahead with this.

[GreenPJ]

Yeah just read this

What is to stop the football authorities putting a pause on the games?

[wookie70]

https://twitter.com/mcgowan_stephen/status/1473295042949394434?s=21

Informal chat underway between Scottish Premiership clubs over bringing the winter break forward a week if, as expected, new 500 fan limit is imposed on outdoor events. Views of Sky Sports key.

That seems a sensible idea to me.

[JeMeSouviens]

What is to stop the football authorities putting a pause on the games?

Sky tv contract it seems.

[wookie70]

Yeah, don't worry about your ****ing paying customers. :rolleyes: Not really bothered about Sky customers but the big winners would be those who go to games from what I can see. Three big Derbies, among other games, could be played in front of fans instead at empty grounds.

[LunasBoots]

https://twitter.com/mcgowan_stephen/status/1473295042949394434?s=21

Informal chat underway between Scottish Premiership clubs over bringing the winter break forward a week if, as expected, new 500 fan limit is imposed on outdoor events. Views of Sky Sports key.

Sky Sports in line for a massive pay day, name chance they will pull out, stuff them, I'll be outside the pub with I'm sure many others if they don't postpone it until a later date.

[JohnMcM]

If I had any influence at the club I would be encouraging a message now reminding people that if the worst comes to the worst, and empty stadiums are to happen, ST holders will get every home game live on Hibs TV. On the back of a new manager appointment that might boost sales of half season tickets ???

[Green forever]

The way I read it is, the break will be brought forward so the Derby and possibly Dundee United away will be postponed until fans can get in ?

[Since90+2]

Hospital numbers and ICU down again, albeit only by 1 in each, and yet here we are going into lockdown.

****ing madness.

[GreenPJ]

If this is only for 3 weeks. Postpone the remaining games and play later on in the season.

Surely that is in the gift of the football authorities not the Government

[wookie70]

If I had any influence at the club I would be encouraging a message now reminding people that if the worst comes to the worst, and empty stadiums are to happen, ST holders will get every home game live on Hibs TV. On the back of a new manager appointment that might boost sales of half season tickets ???

I'd be staying quiet.

[Pretty Boy]

At least people seem to finally be remembering there is more than one issue to consider when voting in an election in Scotland......

[JohnMcM]

I'd be staying quiet.

Only out of interest, what makes you say that?

[blackpoolhibs]

Or sign a waiver to any right to nhs treatment.

Nope, that would make them still be free to mix with everyone and spread the virus. Let them suffer indoors, and let the rest of us get on with our lives.

[Keith_M]

Is it really just outdoor events that are being (effectively) closed down or are they banning indoor gatherings as well?

[bingo70]

Don’t go to the games in an outdoor environment, go and cram into pubs in your thousands instead 😂

[wookie70]

Only out of interest, what makes you say that? It just re-enforces that they will miss games. Not even sure if half season tickets are still on sale. ST holders are well aware we can watch on TV I would have thought we did it for more than a season

[500miles]

Hospital numbers and ICU down again, albeit only by 1 in each, and yet here we are going into lockdown.

****ing madness.

The issue his how contagious it is. London is effectively in partial lockdown with businesses unable to open because of staff sickness. Now imagine that hits hospital staff.

For all the talk about wartime mentality in the early lockdowns, its worth remembering that they thought it would be all over by Christmas, but were still fighting for years and rationing for decades.

[wookie70]

Boom - Sturgeon shuts down football again for 3 weeks.

[JohnMcM]

It just re-enforces that they will miss games. Not even sure if half season tickets are still on sale. ST holders are well aware we can watch on TV I would have thought we did it for more than a season

Thanks. I understand your first reply better now.:aok:

[Onion]

Email was spot on. Sturgeon confirming all this now.

[Sir David Gray]

Attendance of 500 confirmed from Boxing Day confirmed for up to 3 weeks.

[Since90+2]

The issue his how contagious it is. London is effectively in partial lockdown with businesses unable to open because of staff sickness. Now imagine that hits hospital staff.

For all the talk about wartime mentality in the early lockdowns, its worth remembering that they thought it would be all over by Christmas, but were still fighting for years and rationing for decades.

London has the worst vaccine takeup in the country by a fair distance. Scotland has the best.

We have less people in hospital now than we've had for about 4 months.

[mcohibs]

Boom - Sturgeon shuts down football again for 3 weeks.

Not shut down, limited spectators.

[Hibs90]

Tomorrow might be your last chance to see Hibs for a while. Get along if you can.

[500miles]

Is it really just outdoor events that are being (effectively) closed down or are they banning indoor gatherings as well?

That'll come when the money is released to compensate the businesses.

[Since452]

Don’t go to the games in an outdoor environment, go and cram into pubs in your thousands instead 😂

Bizarre eh?

[Billy Whizz]

Attendance of 500 confirmed from Boxing Day confirmed for up to 3 weeks.

Probably home fans only, would make sense

[The Spaceman]

I've had enough of this ****.

Are the Scottish Government going to compensate me for my ST?

Unfortunately not no, just as I wouldn't be compensated by the Scottish Government for missing a holiday to Barbados.

[BegbieHSC]

Gutted :(.

Probably the right thing to do, but still absolutely gutting.

[GreenPJ]

Sky tv contract it seems.

So you have a Government on one hand who are suggesting these actions are to help the NHS and are a public health issue (people will debate whether this is right or wrong).

On the other hand we have Sky, a multi-national who are focused on profit, who seem to be determining the actions the authorities could take. Within Sky's gift they could waive/suspend the contract without financial penalty to the clubs/authorities.

I think I see the problem.

[SteveHFC]

Just announced live outdoor events will be limited to 500

Starting 27/12 for at least 3 weeks!!

More like another 3 months.

[Mon Dieu4]

Nice of covid to ignore tomorrow's game though

[Onion]

We all know about Sturgeon's "3 week period" and her "difficult decisions". Expect same speech in 3 weeks time. Football is stuffed !

[Magpie]

So what are the chances of this three weeks turning into six weeks, then nine weeks?

[bringbackbenny]

https://twitter.com/mcgowan_stephen/status/1473295042949394434?s=21

Informal chat underway between Scottish Premiership clubs over bringing the winter break forward a week if, as expected, new 500 fan limit is imposed on outdoor events. Views of Sky Sports key.

surely have to do this - the most sensible workaround in a crap situation.

[Jones28]

Might as well have no one there. 10,000 season tickets to cater for, probably more cost effective with stewarding.

Why can’t you have a maximum number based on how many people you could fit in physically distanced?

[DIXIHIBS]

Don’t go to the games in an outdoor environment, go and cram into pubs in your thousands instead 😂

Pubs are limited to table service only so wont be rammed but get your point.

[wookie70]

Not shut down, limited spectators. Fair enough but as far as I am concerned fitba is shut down. Watching on TV is not supporting your team imo and whilst she is giving her mitigation now it makes little or no sense why she has waited 3 weeks, allowed Omicron to be spread wide and now limits attendance or stops participation in sports. It is a Hibs forum and I am talking about Hibs here.

It is utterly mental how much Christmas affects the decision of politician. Lets allow that to do forward so all the young who are much more likely to be infected can mix in close quarters with all the old who are most likely to become seriously ill.

[Hermit Crab]

Just announced live outdoor events will be limited to 500

Starting 27/12 for at least 3 weeks!!


From 26th inclusive. Dundee utd away first game affected.

[Jones28]

Nice of covid to ignore tomorrow's game though

It’s self isolating from itself until after Christmas.

[Alfred E Newman]

The issue his how contagious it is. London is effectively in partial lockdown with businesses unable to open because of staff sickness. Now imagine that hits hospital staff.

For all the talk about wartime mentality in the early lockdowns, its worth remembering that they thought it would be all over by Christmas, but were still fighting for years and rationing for decades.

I think you will find it's not sickness that's causing staff shortages, it's the ridiculous self isolating rules . Double vaccinated, booster, negative test but you still have to isolate.
It's crazy.

[dp00]

Nice of covid to ignore tomorrow's game though

Exactly … that’s what annoys me more , if it’s so serious it should start straight away


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[hfcok]

Exactly … that’s what annoys me more , if it’s so serious it should start straight away


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Totally agree with that.

[Helensburghhibs]

So by this logic..... 500ppl can watch dumbarton with no social distancing,,, but hampden Is limited to 500 spread across 50000 seats. Does anyone actually question these "experts"?

[bingo70]

So what are the chances of this three weeks turning into six weeks, then nine weeks?

Why would it just go away in 3 weeks? What’s the logic there?

[Onion]

Sturgeon LOVES this stuff. Loves the limelight and power over peoples lives. Stay at home, don't meet people, hold your breath, get your 3rd doze, Hugmany is cancelled.