Derby match in doubt

[BegbieHSC]

Aaaaand it’s the Huns (+ Ross County):

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-against-winter-break-move-25760049


10/12 in favour.

[Jones28]

How in ****s name do we have a system where 10 clubs can be controlled by 2?

[MWHIBBIES]

How in ****s name do we have a system where 10 clubs can be controlled by 2?

Because Aberdeen stopped us changing it to 11-1 didn't they? thought they could be the new Rangers.

[Torto7]

How in ****s name do we have a system where 10 clubs can be controlled by 2?


Milne from Aberdeen to thank for that.

[number9dream]

Aaaaand it’s the Huns (+ Ross County):

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-against-winter-break-move-25760049


10/12 in favour.

Guess who's on the SPFL board with Wee Ron? That's right, Rangers and Ross County from the Prem.
Lower division clubs won't give a hoot. Doncaster will do what Sky tells him.

[Steven79]

Because Aberdeen stopped us changing it to 11-1 didn't they? thought they could be the new Rangers.Yep! That worked out well for them and Scottish Football didn't it.

We will never get the chance again!

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[MWHIBBIES]

Yep! That worked out well for them and Scottish Football didn't it.

We will never get the chance again!

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Aberdeen should get a lot more stick for that. A move that could've changed Scottish football forever.

[tamig]

Hopefully they do the right thing and come round. Self-interest and tribalism is rife in Scottish football, but hopefully they’ll actually start thinking about the fans.

I’m pretty sure the OF are still doing their no away fans tit for tat thing. So no huns would be at the game in any case.

[Callum_62]

How in ****s name do we have a system where 10 clubs can be controlled by 2?

"The 10 members would be able to pass a motion to move the break, but it's understood any decision will come down to Sky Sports agreeing."

[1875Sean]

I know why rangers don’t want it vote for it but why Ross County?

[CentreLine]

I know why rangers don’t want it vote for it but why Ross County?

Two home games where they get small crowds in any case. A fan free stadium will probably work out less expensive to run than having to police a small number of fans

[Since90+2]

Why are people saying it's a 11/1 vote required? The article linked above literally says the 10 clubs can pass the motion through and then it's down to Sky Sports.

I'm pretty sure the 11/1 vote is restricted to anything that impacts revenue distribution, not when games are played.

[JimBHibees]

Why ar people saying it's a 11/1 vote required? The article linked above literally says the 10 clubs can pass the motion through and then it's down to Sky Sports.

I'm pretty sure the 11/1 vote is restricted to anything that impacts revenue distribution, not when games are played.

Think you may be right think there is only certain issues where that comes into play as you say split if money and probably reconstruction. I think Sky will want the games played.

[lyonhibs]

Does anyone really believe these restrictions will be in place for only 3 weeks?? 🤣

Shifting the break will do nothing in terms of getting these games played in front of capacity crowds.

[CropleyWasGod]

Why are people saying it's a 11/1 vote required? The article linked above literally says the 10 clubs can pass the motion through and then it's down to Sky Sports.

I'm pretty sure the 11/1 vote is restricted to anything that impacts revenue distribution, not when games are played.

The Sun and the BBC both say that it's a Board decision.

[Pretty Boy]

Does anyone really believe these restrictions will be in place for only 3 weeks?? 🤣

Shifting the break will do nothing in terms of getting these games played in front of capacity crowds.

A well worn phrase is 'have we learned nothing from this pandemic?'

I'm surprised that there is still anyone out there who still hasn't learned that when a govt says restrictions are for 3 weeks, they don't mean 3 weeks. The 'circuit breaker' that was put in place last November saw the final lingering restrictions from it lifted 8 months and 4 days after they were put in place.....

It's drip feeding to try and keep it palatable.

[Gordy M]

Does anyone really believe these restrictions will be in place for only 3 weeks?? 🤣

Shifting the break will do nothing in terms of getting these games played in front of capacity crowds.

It is possible, the reason being is the Scot Gov dont have the money to do longer. IF the UK gov decide that they will give more money to the devolved nations then yes it may go longer, but i think the UK gov are more resistant to these measures and therefore the Scot Gov may have no option but to open up.

[Since90+2]

A well worn phrase is 'have we learned nothing from this pandemic?'

I'm surprised that there is still anyone out there who still hasn't learned that when a govt says restrictions are for 3 weeks, they don't mean 3 weeks. The 'circuit breaker' that was put in place last November saw the final lingering restrictions from it lifted 8 months and 4 days after they were put in place.....

It's drip feeding to try and keep it palatable.

I do think there is a difference this time though due to the vaccines and the level of antibodies in the population. Additionally, there simply isn't the political will in Westminster for anything like long term restrictions so even if Holyrood wanted to do it they'd not be able to as the finances will dictate that.

It might not be 3 weeks but I'd be amazed if restrictions are in place for many months. 5-6 weeks is my guess.

[PolmontHibby]

Does anyone really believe these restrictions will be in place for only 3 weeks?? 🤣

Shifting the break will do nothing in terms of getting these games played in front of capacity crowds.

No guarantees - but I think we should move in the hope that it does help us get the crowds/cash from such games.


Or even think outside the box - switch the Hearts home game with the end of January Livingstone home game

[Hibeesforever]

A well worn phrase is 'have we learned nothing from this pandemic?'

I'm surprised that there is still anyone out there who still hasn't learned that when a govt says restrictions are for 3 weeks, they don't mean 3 weeks. The 'circuit breaker' that was put in place last November saw the final lingering restrictions from it lifted 8 months and 4 days after they were put in place.....

It's drip feeding to try and keep it palatable.

Once there is assurance that omicron is mild, then restrictions will have to be raised....Hospital cases are static, so Sturgeon will be shown to have backed the wrong horse.

[JimBHibees]

No guarantees - but I think we should move in the hope that it does help us get the crowds/cash from such games.


Or even think outside the box - switch the Hearts home game with the end of January Livingstone home game

Nothing to lose by doing that. A new year Derby at home is as big a money spinner as we can get. Should not be giving that up without trying as best to get it played with full or nearer full than 500 crowd.

[JimBHibees]

Once there is assurance that omicron is mild, then restrictions will have to be raised....Hospital cases are static, so Sturgeon will be shown to have backed the wrong horse.

I am sure she would be delighted to do so if that is the case.

[JimBHibees]

The Sun and the BBC both say that it's a Board decision.

That the same Board that didn't give us a fair share at the final?

[Since90+2]

Once there is assurance that omicron is mild, then restrictions will have to be raised....Hospital cases are static, so Sturgeon will be shown to have backed the wrong horse.

No, what she'll say is "oh look, lockdown worked" when in reality the peak has already passed in London and they have had no form of lockdown. Exactly the same as in South Africa.

[CropleyWasGod]

That the same Board that didn't give us a fair share at the final?

The same Board that work on a simple majority, rather than the 10-2/11-1 stuff being talked about on here.

[Ronniekirk]

Hopefully they do the right thing and come round. Self-interest and tribalism is rife in Scottish football, but hopefully they’ll actually start thinking about the fans.

Fans get shafted every which way these days No chance they will change it fir the Fans


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[tamig]

Nothing to lose by doing that. A new year Derby at home is as big a money spinner as we can get. Should not be giving that up without trying as best to get it played with full or nearer full than 500 crowd.

Sky would need to agree to anything concerning the derby and when its played.

[number9dream]

Rangers’ Robinson and the Ross Co CEO are on the SPFL board to represent the best interest of the league, not their own clubs. If 10 others want it shifted and Sky give the green light, then it’s completely untenable for those two and Doncaster to go the other way…
Rangers leading the good fight for empty stadiums looks absurd until you factor in the warped world of Old Firm madness and craven self interest.

[04Sauzee]

Hearts in favour

🆕 Club Update

📝 We are in favour of bringing the winter break forward to give us all time to evaluate and alleviate any potential issues relating to playing once again in front of supporters.

➡️ https://t.co/hrn4LpyoBa https://t.co/D7IvdnwZcu

[FilipinoHibs]

I am sure she would be delighted to do so if that is the case.

Yes agree. Why would any rationale person gamble on people's lives and health just now?

[Superfurry72]

The whole thing has just turned into a pathetic tit-for-tit argument between Celtic and Rangers fans on Twitter about what serves their interests, they're not interested in the greater good. Rangers fans especially, they know it helps them to have the game at Celtic Park played in front of (virtually) no fans so that's where they're going with it. It's embarrassing. It always has to be about them.

In the real world, bringing the winter break forward makes sense, from a public health point of view and also to allow the opportunity for more fans to attend those big games. I know a lot of folk are saying the restrictions will go on for longer, but even if that's the case we accept it and play the postponed games in the time saved...it's definitely worth a try. From a selfish point of view I love the home derbies, I have my ticket, I want to at least have a chance of going.

[LunasBoots]

SPFL has written to clubs and advised them there will not be full crowds in January after the 3 week break.

[hibbysam]

The whole thing has just turned into a pathetic tit-for-tit argument between Celtic and Rangers fans on Twitter about what serves their interests, they're not interested in the greater good. Rangers fans especially, they know it helps them to have the game at Celtic Park played in front of (virtually) no fans so that's where they're going with it. It's embarrassing. It always has to be about them.

In the real world, bringing the winter break forward makes sense, from a public health point of view and also to allow the opportunity for more fans to attend those big games. I know a lot of folk are saying the restrictions will go on for longer, but even if that's the case we accept it and play the postponed games in the time saved...it's definitely worth a try. From a selfish point of view I love the home derbies, I have my ticket, I want to at least have a chance of going.

I don’t see why it makes sense. We all want a home derby, I do as much as anyone, but let’s be honest does anyone really expect in 3 weeks time we will be hosting a game that same day? No because of the planning involved in it. That then puts a massive strain on fixtures being played. Rangers have European games to play, that’s two midweeks minimum that they can’t play on. We have an international break that lasts 2 weeks. We have Scottish cup weekends.

Said it previously, every single club is looking at it with self interest. St mirren and st Johnstone struggling so want games off, Ross county could capitalise so want games on. Rangers missing players next month and an empty parkhead want games on, Celtic with a decimated squad, an empty parkhead and new signings next month want games off. Hibs have a new manager but a few injuries, a very heavy schedule and an empty Easter road derby want games off.

We all want fans in but unless there was concrete promises that in 3 weeks we would have that then it’s a pointless discussion for me.

[Hermit Crab]

SPFL has written to clubs and advised them there will not be full crowds in January after the 3 week break.


We will be lucky to see full crowds by next March.

[SteveHFC]

SPFL has written to clubs and advised them there will not be full crowds in January after the 3 week break.

Where did you see that mate.

[Green Badger]

Where did you see that mate.
From the BBC

Scottish Premiership clubs have been asked to vote on when the winter break should be introduced.
The three options are to pause as planned after 3 January, start the break after the Boxing Day fixtures and begin the hiatus before Sunday's games.

The SPFL board are encouraging clubs not to vote for the third option due to the few dates available to play games.
Should option two be chosen, a return to play would take place in week beginning Monday 17 January.
There would be midweek fixtures that week to make up for the two postponed rounds of matches.
Clubs have been asked to inform the SPFL of their preference by 17:00 GMT on Wednesday.

[Superfurry72]

I don’t see why it makes sense. We all want a home derby, I do as much as anyone, but let’s be honest does anyone really expect in 3 weeks time we will be hosting a game that same day? No because of the planning involved in it. That then puts a massive strain on fixtures being played. Rangers have European games to play, that’s two midweeks minimum that they can’t play on. We have an international break that lasts 2 weeks. We have Scottish cup weekends.

Said it previously, every single club is looking at it with self interest. St mirren and st Johnstone struggling so want games off, Ross county could capitalise so want games on. Rangers missing players next month and an empty parkhead want games on, Celtic with a decimated squad, an empty parkhead and new signings next month want games off. Hibs have a new manager but a few injuries, a very heavy schedule and an empty Easter road derby want games off.

We all want fans in but unless there was concrete promises that in 3 weeks we would have that then it’s a pointless discussion for me.

I don't think it's pointless at all, I think we should make every effort to get supporters in and if that means shuffling things around slightly, I think it's worth it. If it doesn't happen fine, but like I said it's definitely worth a try. I do accept it's unlikely things will resume fully in three weeks, but it's not inconceivable. We'll know more about the effects of Omicron then.

[Radium]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1473627155502407683?s=21

Alan Burrows on the situation. Speaks well [emoji55]


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[Danderhall Hibs]

The SPFL don’t even look at their own calendar - I looked at February and there are 2 free midweeks. Not checked March or April but happy to estimate there will be at least 1 midweek in each month.

Why do they keep spouting this nonsense? We’ll have played a full round of fixtures in December but the others aren’t allowed to play the occasional midweek?

[hibbysam]

From the BBC

Scottish Premiership clubs have been asked to vote on when the winter break should be introduced.
The three options are to pause as planned after 3 January, start the break after the Boxing Day fixtures and begin the hiatus before Sunday's games.

The SPFL board are encouraging clubs not to vote for the third option due to the few dates available to play games.
Should option two be chosen, a return to play would take place in week beginning Monday 17 January.
There would be midweek fixtures that week to make up for the two postponed rounds of matches.
Clubs have been asked to inform the SPFL of their preference by 17:00 GMT on Wednesday.

We can’t play that midweek though as we are already playing.

[LunasBoots]

Where did you see that mate.

DR live blog, but is also appearing on other news sites, seems clubs plans to have fans back may already be dead in the water. Basically I think the SPFL have been in talks with the government and they've thrown a spanner in the works that it will still be limited spectators and thus is going to go on longer than 3 weeks as a few thought.

[hibbysam]

The SPFL don’t even look at their own calendar - I looked at February and there are 2 free midweeks. Not checked March or April but happy to estimate there will be at least 1 midweek in each month.

Why do they keep spouting this nonsense? We’ll have played a full round of fixtures in December but the others aren’t allowed to play the occasional midweek?

Rangers and Celtic both have European games in February.

[LunasBoots]

We will be lucky to see full crowds by next March.

Yup, That's my opinion aswell. Looks like a lot of revenue is going to be lost in terms of refunds. If things go well after 3 weeks crowds will be lucky to be capped at 5000.

[04Sauzee]

From STV

The decision on whether to move forward the Premiership winter break will be taken by the SPFL’s board and not through a formal vote from member clubs, STV has learned.

The league body and top flight clubs have been in crisis talks since the Scottish Government announced that a maximum of 500 fans would be allowed to attend sporting events from Boxing Day as a measure to slow the spread of the omicron variant.

Premiership sides are in one of the busiest spells of the season, with games on December 26 and 29 before a round of fixtures that include the Old Firm match and Edinburgh and Dundee derbies early in January. The top flight would then go into a two-week winter shutdown.

The majority of Premiership sides have called for the break to be moved and start ahead of this weekend’s games, allowing clubs to potentially avoid the worst of the impact from the crowd limits. Games could be rescheduled for January when the break was meant to take place.

[BH Hibs]

From STV

The decision on whether to move forward the Premiership winter break will be taken by the SPFL’s board and not through a formal vote from member clubs, STV has learned.

The league body and top flight clubs have been in crisis talks since the Scottish Government announced that a maximum of 500 fans would be allowed to attend sporting events from Boxing Day as a measure to slow the spread of the omicron variant.

Premiership sides are in one of the busiest spells of the season, with games on December 26 and 29 before a round of fixtures that include the Old Firm match and Edinburgh and Dundee derbies early in January. The top flight would then go into a two-week winter shutdown.

The majority of Premiership sides have called for the break to be moved and start ahead of this weekend’s games, allowing clubs to potentially avoid the worst of the impact from the crowd limits. Games could be rescheduled for January when the break was meant to take place.

So the majority of the clubs want it moved forward to after tonight the fans want it moved ro the same, but the board (Rangers and Ross County) don't want it moved until 27th if at all and they get to decide. ****ing joke.

[Fergos]

I don't think it's pointless at all, I think we should make every effort to get supporters in and if that means shuffling things around slightly, I think it's worth it. If it doesn't happen fine, but like I said it's definitely worth a try. I do accept it's unlikely things will resume fully in three weeks, but it's not inconceivable. We'll know more about the effects of Omicron then.

Agreed.

[GreenCastle]

Would allow Hibs to play new players in Derby if delayed but would also allow say Boyce to recover from injury for Hearts.

[wookie70]

A well worn phrase is 'have we learned nothing from this pandemic?'

I'm surprised that there is still anyone out there who still hasn't learned that when a govt says restrictions are for 3 weeks, they don't mean 3 weeks. The 'circuit breaker' that was put in place last November saw the final lingering restrictions from it lifted 8 months and 4 days after they were put in place.....

It's drip feeding to try and keep it palatable.

I fear you will be right but I hope the numbers will be nothing like the SG seem to be predicting. They certainly haven't been since her Tsunami prediction with pretty much static cases, slightly less in hospital and ICU and hospitals with 4 times less covid patients than Jan 21. England appear to have shown some sense with isolation now allowing those with negative tests to get back to their lives after 7 days and hopefully the SG show some sense and look at that too. I've lost all faith in them but they are starting to lose some of their voters and I power means more to Sturgeon than anything so who knows. I'm going to hope we get a full ER for the derby. If case numbers are the same as now and events are still crippled then I suspect the public will rightly start to look at her leadership. And by public I mean those like me who voted her way last time. She has lost my vote and I suspect she will be very aware that this action has been the least popular so far.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Rangers and Celtic both have European games in February.

They might have to play more frequently then. The majority are fine though.

[Callum_62]

DR live blog, but is also appearing on other news sites, seems clubs plans to have fans back may already be dead in the water. Basically I think the SPFL have been in talks with the government and they've thrown a spanner in the works that it will still be limited spectators and thus is going to go on longer than 3 weeks as a few thought.Isn't it more to do with the fact our brought forward winter break will end before the restriction period?

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[hhibs]

[QUOTE=wookie70;6796951]I fear you will be right but I hope the numbers will be nothing like the SG seem to be predicting. They certainly haven't been since her Tsunami prediction with pretty much static cases, slightly less in hospital and ICU and hospitals with 4 times less covid patients than Jan 21. England appear to have shown some sense with isolation now allowing those with negative tests to get back to their lives after 7 days and hopefully the SG show some sense and look at that too. I've lost all faith in them but they are starting to lose some of their voters and I power means more to Sturgeon than anything so who knows. I'm going to hope we get a full ER for the derby. If case numbers are the same as now and events are still crippled then I suspect the public will rightly start to look at her leadership. And by public I mean those like me who voted her way last time. She has lost my vote and I suspect she will be very aware that this action has been the least popular so far.[/QUOT



Sure you have.

[JimBHibees]

Would allow Hibs to play new players in Derby if delayed but would also allow say Boyce to recover from injury for Hearts.

Would also allow the new manager to get his feet in the door.

[hibbysam]

They might have to play more frequently then. The majority are fine though.

That would never happen. We aren’t going to tell rangers to play three times a week (not even sure how you would do it considering they would be playing Thursday Sunday) when they were against it from the start. Likewise the potential for Scottish cup postponements, more covid cases going forward and the international break. To fit 3 games in would be nigh on impossible I’d expect for those two sides.

[Danderhall Hibs]

That would never happen. We aren’t going to tell rangers to play three times a week (not even sure how you would do it considering they would be playing Thursday Sunday) when they were against it from the start. Likewise the potential for Scottish cup postponements, more covid cases going forward and the international break. To fit 3 games in would be nigh on impossible I’d expect for those two sides.

How many European games do they have left - is it a knockout now?

How do other countries manage it?

[JimBHibees]

How many European games do they have left - is it a knockout now?

How do other countries manage it?

They only have one more tie as they were drawn against Dortmund.

[HH81]

Just received confirmation my hotel for Derby are refusing to refund or move booking, train company already said no too and paid for match too.

£225.00 to watch the game on sky if it goes ahead. Village hotels =useless.

[Billy Whizz]

Seemingly a 5pm deadline for discussions, with the decision getting made tonight
SPFL worried about where they can fit in 18 games next month
Possibly all fixtures go ahead on Boxing Day with 500 fans, the other 2 games could be postponed

[Danderhall Hibs]

Just received confirmation my hotel for Derby are refusing to refund or move booking, train company already said no too and paid for match too.

£225.00 to watch the game on sky if it goes ahead. Village hotels =useless.

That’s a sickener.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Seemingly a 5pm deadline for discussions, with the decision getting made tonight
SPFL worried about where they can fit in 18 games next month

18 in total? We alone played 11 or 12 in December?

[Billy Whizz]

18 in total? We alone played 11 or 12 in December?

I’ve updated my post, possibly games going ahead on Boxing Day with 500
Fans, next 2 could’ve cancelled

Calendar is crammed after the break, with Scottish cup and a midweek game on the 26th

[Danderhall Hibs]

I’ve updated my post, possibly games going ahead on Boxing Day with 500
Fans, next 2 could’ve cancelled

Calendar is crammed after the break, with Scottish cup and a midweek game on the 26th

Any idea if there are replays in the Scottish this season?

[A Hi-Bee]

That would never happen. We aren’t going to tell rangers to play three times a week (not even sure how you would do it considering they would be playing Thursday Sunday) when they were against it from the start. Likewise the potential for Scottish cup postponements, more covid cases going forward and the international break. To fit 3 games in would be nigh on impossible I’d expect for those two sides.

Who cares about sevco, if St Mirren can be forced to play smellic tonight with 11 players out with covid, then they can play 3 times a week. They have a big enough squad.
For the avoidance of any doubts they bloody well should be told/forced to play the games.
:greengrin

[Billy Whizz]

Any idea if there are replays in the Scottish this season?

Not from the round that we enter

[Smartie]

Seemingly a 5pm deadline for discussions, with the decision getting made tonight
SPFL worried about where they can fit in 18 games next month
Possibly all fixtures go ahead on Boxing Day with 500 fans, the other 2 games could be postponed

Whatever happens - I expect there to be huge heat on Ron Gordon following the decision.

Might be from us, might be from Sevconians.

Interesting times.

[LunasBoots]

I’ve updated my post, possibly games going ahead on Boxing Day with 500
Fans, next 2 could’ve cancelled

Calendar is crammed after the break, with Scottish cup and a midweek game on the 26th

Yup Aberdeen appear to be putting ST holders in a ballot for tickets for boxing day game

[blackpoolhibs]

Just received confirmation my hotel for Derby are refusing to refund or move booking, train company already said no too and paid for match too.

£225.00 to watch the game on sky if it goes ahead. Village hotels =useless.

I am also booked in the village hotel, although with being a golf member at village Blackpool, it was a free room for the night.

Thinking of still having a night away, and watching in a boozer.

[Billy Whizz]

Yup Aberdeen appear to be putting ST holders in a ballot for tickets for boxing day game

I’ve got a ticket for Tannadice, obviously not expecting to be going, will be home fans only

[LunasBoots]

I’ve got a ticket for Tannadice, obviously not expecting to be going, will be home fans only

Yeah I held off on the tannadice tickets after hearing if the other days incoming restrictions, know a few in the same boat as yourself

[LunasBoots]

Championship and Leagues below to carry on as scheduled

[HH81]

I am also booked in the village hotel, although with being a golf member at village Blackpool, it was a free room for the night.

Thinking of still having a night away, and watching in a boozer.

I work in complaints so sent them one as a result with some choice words. Not sure what we're doing as the wife was coming too.

Stayed at the Blackpool one before. Decent one to be honest and like the outdoor heated pool. Also it's far enough from the sea front 😁.

Pain in the arse these new restrictions puts me off booking anything else until covid does one!

[Hibbyradge]

Just received confirmation my hotel for Derby are refusing to refund or move booking, train company already said no too and paid for match too.

£225.00 to watch the game on sky if it goes ahead. Village hotels =useless.

That's a sore one.

Do you have travel insurance?

Edit: Scrap that idea. You can still travel and stay in the hotel. Bugger.

[Hibbyradge]

I work in complaints so sent them one as a result with some choice words. Not sure what we're doing as the wife was coming too.

Stayed at the Blackpool one before. Decent one to be honest and like the outdoor heated pool. Also it's far enough from the sea front 😁.

Pain in the arse these new restrictions puts me off booking anything else until covid does one!

Hotels.com offer free cancellation on most hotels plus you get a free room after so many stays. They're also on Topcashback so you can earn a few bob using them.

[HH81]

That's a sore one.

Do you have travel insurance?

Edit: Scrap that idea. You can still travel and stay in the hotel. Bugger.

Yes I looked at my travel insurance and saw I was unable to claim. Work at a bank too and their benefit won't cover me either.

[Hibbyradge]

Whatever happens - I expect there to be huge heat on Ron Gordon following the decision.

Might be from us, might be from Sevconians.

Interesting times.

Why would there be pressure from the fans on RG?

[Smartie]

Why would there be pressure from the fans on RG?

As I understand it (and I could be wrong)...

He's on the board who are charged with making a decision, along with a representative from Rangers and one from Ross County. They are both known to be against delaying the break.

Ron is going to have to come out publicly and support the board's decision, whatever it is and whether or not he agreed with it. Petrie found himself in the unenviable position of having to publicly support decisions he privately fought valiantly against when all that Rangers business was ongoing.

If the winter break is delayed, Rangers miss out on playing Celtic at an empty Celtic Park, Celtic reinforce their squad between now and playing the game and if Rangers are without players who are at the ANC - he will get serious heat from Sevconians.

If the board make a decision that games have to be played in front of 500 fans and Hibs lose out on the £££ as well as home advantage for a derby - then I'd expect him to face a bit of heat from the Hibs support when it comes to representing our club's best interests. It might also be a decision that disadvantages the wishes of 10 rather than 2. Or it might be a decision to favour Sky over fans who attend games.

He's going to have to front up a decision that is going to piss people off one way or the other so he better brace himself.

That's what he got involved in though. And I expect he'd probably rather be in there representing us than sitting on the sidelines sniping, whilst having no influence on stuff going against Hibs and his investment.

[Hibeewilly]

I work in complaints so sent them one as a result with some choice words. Not sure what we're doing as the wife was coming too.

Stayed at the Blackpool one before. Decent one to be honest and like the outdoor heated pool. Also it's far enough from the sea front 😁.

Pain in the arse these new restrictions puts me off booking anything else until covid does one!
I use booking.com as they offer free cancellations, no prepayments and payment on checkout......well worth a look for your future bookings

[Hibeesforever]

Only 2,400 cases today, I think the football fan is being conned by the Scottish Government. Derby should not have been cancelled with no fans...

[Since90+2]

I use booking.com as they offer free cancellations, no prepayments and payment on checkout......well worth a look for your future bookings

Booking.com don't set any payment cancellation terms for hotels. Each individual hotel will set their own booking terms which will include non refundable advance payments in a lot of cases. What booking.com advertise is no booking fees which are completely different.

Just wanted wanted to make people aware of this incase they go and use booking.com thinking it's always fully flexible.

[hibbysam]

Booking.com don't set any payment cancellation terms for hotels. Each individual hotel will set their own booking terms which will include non refundable advance payments in a lot of cases. What booking.com advertise is no booking fees which are completely different.

Just wanted wanted to make people aware of this incase they go and use booking.com thinking it's always fully flexible.

You can almost always get a ‘no prepayment free cancellation’ option when paying with booking.com. That means you can cancel free of charge up to the morning of your booking. It is slightly more expensive than up front no cancellation option though.

[Since90+2]

You can almost always get a ‘no prepayment free cancellation’ option when paying with booking.com. That means you can cancel free of charge up to the morning of your booking. It is slightly more expensive than up front no cancellation option though.

Yip, but that's not specific to booking.com, every rate you're offered on booking.com you'll also get directly with a hotel. There are also a lot of prepaid non refundable rates on the site too though. I account managed Booking.com for the best part of 5 years in a previous role so if there's one thing I'm in the know about, it's that! No need to bore people any further with it though..

[HH81]

Yip, but that's not specific to booking.com, every rate you're offered on booking.com you'll also get directly with a hotel. There are also a lot of prepaid non refundable rates on the site too though. I account managed Booking.com for the best part of 5 years in a previous role so if there's one thing I'm in the know about, it's that! No need to bore people any further with it though..

Cheers for the advice though. 👍

[500miles]

Only 2,400 cases today, I think the football fan is being conned by the Scottish Government. Derby should not have been cancelled with no fans...

Public health scotland are investigating that figure - they expect it to double.

[Scorrie]

Derby rearranged for 2nd Feb according to Hibs TV

[Keith_M]

Derby rearranged for 2nd Feb according to Hibs TV



:nanasplit: :banana:

[Since90+2]

Derby rearranged for 2nd Feb according to Hibs TV

Apparently 1st February. Old firm game is the 2nd.

[Scorrie]

Yep we play hearts on the 1st. Apologies for duff info, I blame Hibs TV!

[SteveHFC]

Apparently 1st February. Old firm game is the 2nd.

A day before my birthday :hyper

[hibbysam]

Yip, but that's not specific to booking.com, every rate you're offered on booking.com you'll also get directly with a hotel. There are also a lot of prepaid non refundable rates on the site too though. I account managed Booking.com for the best part of 5 years in a previous role so if there's one thing I'm in the know about, it's that! No need to bore people any further with it though..

Appreciate your knowledge. I always use booking.com purely for ease of comparison so have absolutely zero idea how direct hotels do things!

[LancashireHibby]

I always either use Travelodge flexible booking (£28 for the new derby date!) or Hotels.com free cancellation

Both Avanti and TP Express have allowed me to amend my trains (all on advance tickets) from 3rd Jan to 1st & 2nd Feb free of charge

[HH81]

I always either use Travelodge flexible booking (£28 for the new derby date!) or Hotels.com free cancellation

Both Avanti and TP Express have allowed me to amend my trains (all on advance tickets) from 3rd Jan to 1st & 2nd Feb free of charge

Used trainpal for ages now, no issues but having to contact them for an issue has been a nightmare.

I was going up via Leeds to this one. Always have bad look going up that coast 😁.

[Billy Whizz]

Any news from Dundee Utd re Sunday yet?
Noticed Hearts are having no fans in on Sunday

[Hermit Crab]

Any news from Dundee Utd re Sunday yet?
Noticed Hearts are having no fans in on Sunday


https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/update-games-vs-dundee-utd-celtic-hearts

No Hibs fans will be allowed into the game, only 500 home fans, as expected. Go directly to Dundee utd for your refund.

[HH81]

Anyone heard this before re trains..

So as Derby cancelled asked to move train as its exchangeable but not refundable they say. Trainpal is the company. Thier response seems a joke. Thought would see if this has been encountered before by anyone using trains or in this situation.....


Please note that your tickets are non-refundable but can be exchanged without an admin fee if you make a new booking meeting the following requirements:

i) Booking a new ticket via TrainPal before18:00 the day before your original travel date
ii) The routes (departure station and arrival station) must stay the same as the original ticket
iii) Only the date and time can be changed

Please inform us of the new booking ID once you have made it. If your new booking confirms the above rules, the original order will be refunded once we received your new order.

So in effect they will know sort it if I re buy another ticket? Dodgy?

I work in a bank so might raise a debit card dispute shall see.

No update on my hotel either. Had a shocker with this Derby trip!

[LancashireHibby]

Anyone heard this before re trains..

So as Derby cancelled asked to move train as its exchangeable but not refundable they say. Trainpal is the company. Thier response seems a joke. Thought would see if this has been encountered before by anyone using trains or in this situation.....


Please note that your tickets are non-refundable but can be exchanged without an admin fee if you make a new booking meeting the following requirements:

i) Booking a new ticket via TrainPal before18:00 the day before your original travel date
ii) The routes (departure station and arrival station) must stay the same as the original ticket
iii) Only the date and time can be changed

Please inform us of the new booking ID once you have made it. If your new booking confirms the above rules, the original order will be refunded once we received your new order.

So in effect they will know sort it if I re buy another ticket? Dodgy?

I work in a bank so might raise a debit card dispute shall see.

No update on my hotel either. Had a shocker with this Derby trip!

Yes when I was going through the process with TP Express, they suggested something similar for one of the scenarios I was looking at. Does sound a bit risky though. My advice would be to buy directly through the train companies next time though, I've found it pretty painless to change the dates.

[Devonhibs]

Hearts having no fans in will save them money on staffing costs, nothing to do with being unfair on those not there.