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Ronniekirk
17-12-2021, 07:15 PM
I’ve been told tonight that Maloney is a done deal, but he’s bringing in a foreign coach rather than Caldwell.

Caldwell is being considered but Don’t know if that’s as a 3rd coach or an alternative if the foreign guy doesn’t happen for whatever reason.

Something I have thought is neededWould be interesting if a foreign coach could make an impact and improve technique and skill level of certain players



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Lancs Harp
17-12-2021, 07:18 PM
Mon the foreigners. Will get the hipsters back on side :wink:

Its Terry Butcher :wink::greengrin

heretoday
17-12-2021, 07:24 PM
Boyle would do well to keep his eyes on the prize and keep his mouth shut.

PolmontHibby
17-12-2021, 07:36 PM
Well said Martin - i am not one for saying employees should keep their mouths shut, and good to see a bit of loyalty.

Hopefully he can use it for some extra fire Sunday....and a big shout of "this is for you Jack" in to some camera at the end

The 90+2
17-12-2021, 07:45 PM
Boyle would do well to keep his eyes on the prize and keep his mouth shut.

Isn’t he allowed an opinion like?

Jim44
17-12-2021, 07:59 PM
Gerard will have known about it well before it was announced

Gerrard is a dyed in the wool rat, always was, always will be. I trust the Hun muppets have come to their senses about the tosser who led them by the nose for a couple of years. He was always ready to sell them down the river. They’ve landed on their feet with the arrival of GVB.

silverhibee
17-12-2021, 08:01 PM
Boyle wont be going anywhere in January. On ever infact.

Celtc will snap him up.

h1bs4life
17-12-2021, 08:08 PM
Isn’t he allowed an opinion like?

Of course he is aloud an opinion and I suspect as usual the press have blown it out of proportion.
At the end of the day the players including Boyle’s performances lost the manager his job

silverhibee
17-12-2021, 08:12 PM
You know and I know that they can happen very quickly if all parties want to make it happen, which was my point.

Gerrard was installed at Villa very quickly, despite being in a job mid season.

Maloney has nothing pressing that would prevent him moving.

We really don’t know what’s happening in Sean Maloneys life right now, do you know where he is based, Scotland England or even Belgium, I don’t, I’m sure he will attend the final on Sunday though, Rangers happy to get compo for Gerard him,
does Belgium get compo for Maloney, probably not, Belgium may want to keep him though, if chat is correct he will be the Hibs manager by next week, what’s the problem him not being in the dug out for Sunday.

The 90+2
17-12-2021, 08:16 PM
Of course he is aloud an opinion and I suspect as usual the press have blown it out of proportion.
At the end of the day the players including Boyle’s performances lost the manager his job

The players will know performances partly cost Jack his job. They don’t have to agree it was the correct decision and be happy with it though.

Lancs Harp
17-12-2021, 08:17 PM
Im fully expecting De Bruyne, Lukaku, Tielemans and Mertens to sign in January.

The 90+2
17-12-2021, 08:18 PM
We really don’t know what’s happening in Sean Maloneys life right now, do you know where he is based, Scotland England or even Belgium, I don’t, I’m sure he will attend the final on Sunday though, Rangers happy to get compo for Gerard him,
does Belgium get compo for Maloney, probably not, Belgium may want to keep him though, if chat is correct he will be the Hibs manager by next week, what’s the problem him not being in the dug out for Sunday.

He’s Glasgow based.

bingo70
17-12-2021, 08:19 PM
He’s Glasgow based.

It gets worse

Iggy Pope
17-12-2021, 08:22 PM
It gets worse

He’s Belgium based.

gbhibby
17-12-2021, 08:23 PM
He’s Glasgow based.
At least he is closer than Jack Ross was

h1bs4life
17-12-2021, 08:28 PM
The players will know performances partly cost Jack his job. They don’t have to agree it was the correct decision and be happy with it though.

Players are never happy when a manager loses there job , not sure about partly players poor performances cost Ross his job.

The 90+2
17-12-2021, 08:29 PM
He’s Belgium based.

He gave interviews in the summer where the two or three I read said he was still Glasgow based - also when linked with Celtic months back.

The 90+2
17-12-2021, 08:32 PM
He gave interviews in the summer where the two or three I read said he was still Glasgow based - also when linked with Celtic months back.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/49944760.amp

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/shaun-maloney-and-roberto-martinez-ready-to-kill-scotland-with-kindness-3p73hnvmw

Unless he’s moved to Belgium now to work there a few times a year.

The 90+2
17-12-2021, 08:33 PM
Players are never happy when a manager loses there job , not sure about partly players poor performances cost Ross his job.

Many players are happy when managers lose their job.

Iggy Pope
17-12-2021, 08:36 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/49944760.amp

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/shaun-maloney-and-roberto-martinez-ready-to-kill-scotland-with-kindness-3p73hnvmw

Unless he’s moved to Belgium now to work there a few times a year.

Those articles are years old.

h1bs4life
17-12-2021, 08:41 PM
Many players are happy when managers lose their job.

Yes probably the ones not playing but you very rarely if ever hear players being interviewed not long after it has happened in the press saying they are glad the manager got sacked.
Still not sure what you mean by partly got Ross sacked, poor performances/ results were the reason

The 90+2
17-12-2021, 08:41 PM
Those articles are years old.

He’s moved there in the last year or so then? Fair enough👌

Iggy Pope
17-12-2021, 08:43 PM
He’s moved there in the last year or so then? Fair enough👌

No idea. Could be shuffling around Wigan Casino still for all you or I know. 👍

Dazzjw1875
17-12-2021, 08:44 PM
I think near the end the obvious problem was that JR couldn't motivate the players when behind or very poor 45mins Livi a prime example. But also saying that if the players can't lift themselves knowing performances we're rubbish then that is a bigger issue.

jacomo
17-12-2021, 08:44 PM
Boyle would do well to keep his eyes on the prize and keep his mouth shut.


Lol the gangsters are here

MWHIBBIES
17-12-2021, 08:45 PM
Celtc will snap him up.

With 2.5 years on his contract and no clause? They'll really wont.

Why didn't they take him at any point in the last 2 years when he was there for pennies?

JimBHibees
17-12-2021, 08:49 PM
Great news if true, I wouldn’t want Caldwell anywhere the club.

Ffs

StockholmHibs
17-12-2021, 08:51 PM
I think near the end the obvious problem was that JR couldn't motivate the players when behind or very poor 45mins Livi a prime example. But also saying that if the players can't lift themselves knowing performances we're rubbish then that is a bigger issue.

Possibly. Motivation issues. But theses players through jack under a bus big time! Still disappointed. Hope a new coach does the trick. I have my doubts.

greenlex
17-12-2021, 08:56 PM
I’ve been told tonight that Maloney is a done deal, but he’s bringing in a foreign coach rather than Caldwell.

Caldwell is being considered but Don’t know if that’s as a 3rd coach or an alternative if the foreign guy doesn’t happen for whatever reason.
I’ve heard it’s Maloney, Ted and Beard and no Caldwell. Happy days.

Hibbyradge
17-12-2021, 09:15 PM
I’ve heard it’s Maloney, Ted and Beard and no Caldwell. Happy days.

Dream team.

Imagine the half time biscuits! :drool:

greenlex
17-12-2021, 09:16 PM
Dream team.

Imagine the half time biscuits! :drool:
:greengrin

SMAXXA
17-12-2021, 09:32 PM
Boyle would do well to keep his eyes on the prize and keep his mouth shut.

Dearie me, the guys allowed his opinion and I knew before this article that he openly said at EM after the news broke JR was one of the main reasons he signed an extension. People forget these are human beings who feelings, it wasn’t a nice feeling players felt they let him down I believe it was quite an emotional day players and JR when he went to clear out his desk as they say. I respect these people far more for genuinely being upset about a situation like that more than those mercenaries who see off manager left right and centre and don’t give a toss.

Franck Stanton
17-12-2021, 10:25 PM
Maybe things have still to be signed on the dotted line, I don’t know where Maloney stays just now but he might be house hunting for his family and getting other things sorted with the Belgium national authorities, things like this just don’t happen overnight.

Sure I read somewhere on .net/ Evening News the SM is still based in Glasgow.

ekhibee
17-12-2021, 10:48 PM
Dearie me, the guys allowed his opinion and I knew before this article that he openly said at EM after the news broke JR was one of the main reasons he signed an extension. People forget these are human beings who feelings, it wasn’t a nice feeling players felt they let him down I believe it was quite an emotional day players and JR when he went to clear out his desk as they say. I respect these people far more for genuinely being upset about a situation like that more than those mercenaries who see off manager left right and centre and don’t give a toss.

I totally agree that Boyle is perfectly entitled to his own opinion, but he's part of the team that did let Ross down, so I don't really see why I should respect them more, they lost him his job. Just cos they now feel bad about it doesn't make it better.

Hibbyradge
17-12-2021, 11:15 PM
Dearie me, the guys allowed his opinion and I knew before this article that he openly said at EM after the news broke JR was one of the main reasons he signed an extension. People forget these are human beings who feelings, it wasn’t a nice feeling players felt they let him down I believe it was quite an emotional day players and JR when he went to clear out his desk as they say. I respect these people far more for genuinely being upset about a situation like that more than those mercenaries who see off manager left right and centre and don’t give a toss.

Excellent sentiments.

PolmontHibby
17-12-2021, 11:28 PM
Dearie me, the guys allowed his opinion and I knew before this article that he openly said at EM after the news broke JR was one of the main reasons he signed an extension. People forget these are human beings who feelings, it wasn’t a nice feeling players felt they let him down I believe it was quite an emotional day players and JR when he went to clear out his desk as they say. I respect these people far more for genuinely being upset about a situation like that more than those mercenaries who see off manager left right and centre and don’t give a toss.

Well said, and it was during an injury prone period, serious covid issue and non stop games.

The 90+2
18-12-2021, 01:35 PM
No idea. Could be shuffling around Wigan Casino still for all you or I know. 👍

You would have to trust the judgement of anyone kicking about Wigan tbh.

The 90+2
18-12-2021, 01:39 PM
Dearie me, the guys allowed his opinion and I knew before this article that he openly said at EM after the news broke JR was one of the main reasons he signed an extension. People forget these are human beings who feelings, it wasn’t a nice feeling players felt they let him down I believe it was quite an emotional day players and JR when he went to clear out his desk as they say. I respect these people far more for genuinely being upset about a situation like that more than those mercenaries who see off manager left right and centre and don’t give a toss.

Exactly. People want him to do a Matt Docherty and turn around and say it’s not a big deal and he doesn’t really care?

Like it not this is a major story in Scottish football and a lot of people don’t agree with it including at least half the support of our club and a lot of our players. I’m glad players like Boyle are being honest and anyone with the attitude they don’t care or they must ***** it to say how they feel because they’ve understand can bolt. I don’t want the players to be laughing about not giving a crap. I want them to be hurting and to take it out on the football pitch tomorrow afternoon. For themselves, our support and for our former manager.

sleeping giant
18-12-2021, 01:40 PM
Dearie me, the guys allowed his opinion and I knew before this article that he openly said at EM after the news broke JR was one of the main reasons he signed an extension. People forget these are human beings who feelings, it wasn’t a nice feeling players felt they let him down I believe it was quite an emotional day players and JR when he went to clear out his desk as they say. I respect these people far more for genuinely being upset about a situation like that more than those mercenaries who see off manager left right and centre and don’t give a toss.

Great post.

Dalianwanda
18-12-2021, 01:44 PM
Exactly. People want him to do a Matt Docherty and turn around and say it’s not a big deal and he doesn’t really care?

Like it not this is a major story in Scottish football and a lot of people don’t agree with it including at least half the support of our club and a lot of our players. I’m glad players like Boyle are being honest and anyone with the attitude they don’t care or they must ***** it to say how they feel because they’ve understand can bolt. I don’t want the players to be laughing about not giving a crap. I want them to be hurting and to take it out on the football pitch tomorrow afternoon. For themselves, our support and for our former manager.

spot on

worcesterhibby
18-12-2021, 05:38 PM
My concern about the support not really backing Jack Ross because the football wasn’t sexy like it was under Mowbray/Collins/Stubbs/Lennon. Is that I don’t actually think the sexiness was down to the managers..it was down to having a highly talented, driven, young creative midfielder in the shape of Scott Brown/ Zammama/ SJM. Take that one class player out the team and we became a bit ordinary..just look at Lennon’s time once McGinn left…I wonder whether we really need a new manager or we really need an inspirational once in a generation midfielder ! Unfortunately a new manager is easier to find !

bigwheel
18-12-2021, 06:10 PM
Good post this …

cameronw-hfc
18-12-2021, 08:22 PM
My concern about the support not really backing Jack Ross because the football wasn’t sexy like it was under Mowbray/Collins/Stubbs/Lennon. Is that I don’t actually think the sexiness was down to the managers..it was down to having a highly talented, driven, young creative midfielder in the shape of Scott Brown/ Zammama/ SJM. Take that one class player out the team and we became a bit ordinary..just look at Lennon’s time once McGinn left…I wonder whether we really need a new manager or we really need an inspirational once in a generation midfielder ! Unfortunately a new manager is easier to find !



Wholeheartedly disagree. A team with lesser players can play brilliant football, why can't we? Look at Brighton under Potter. Play good football and punch way above their weight.

PolmontHibby
18-12-2021, 08:44 PM
Wholeheartedly disagree. A team with lesser players can play brilliant football, why can't we? Look at Brighton under Potter. Play good football and punch way above their weight.

Struggling to see the Brighton point - they were in the top dozen big transfer spenders in EPL for this season with £50m+, and possibly about a couple of places above where they should have been based on wage bill 3020/21.
Money as always is the most important variable in quality of team and league placings and I would argue Ross with 3rd place last season was Punching above weight as much as Brighton.

worcesterhibby
18-12-2021, 09:12 PM
Wholeheartedly disagree. A team with lesser players can play brilliant football, why can't we? Look at Brighton under Potter. Play good football and punch way above their weight.

Do you honestly think we would have been as good to watch under Mowbray without Scott Brown ? Or Stubbs and Lennon without SJM. We certainly went downhill fast after SJM left. Great players improve teams..due to our finances we rarely have great players..plenty of good players and hard working players, but not many great players. Mowbray inherited riordan, fletcher, Brown and Whittaker. Lennon inherited SJM. Right now maybe Boyle is up there as in the same level, but it’s harder for forwards to impact the style of play as much as midfielders. The fact that our best players is Boyle means that our manager, quite rightly had us playing our best football on the break. But soaking up pressure, firing the ball “in- behind” and hoping his pace will catch defences out, is not really what Hibs fans want..it becomes one dimensional. At the start of the season Magennis was doing a great job of driving forward and getting on the end of stuff, but his injuries have denied us that dynamism in midfield. You need great players, to play lovely football consistently, week in week out and on our finances they are hard to find.

If Jack Ross had john McGinn in his team he wouldn’t have been sacked and we would probably be 3rd in the league. We would also be fancying our chances on Sunday, a bit more than we are.

B.H.F.C
18-12-2021, 09:19 PM
Do you honestly think we would have been as good to watch under Mowbray without Scott Brown ? Or Stubbs and Lennon without SJM. We certainly went downhill fast after SJM left. Great players improve teams..due to our finances we rarely have great players..plenty of good players and hard working players, but not many great players. Mowbray inherited riordan, fletcher, Brown and Whittaker. Lennon inherited SJM. Right now maybe Boyle is up there as in the same level, but it’s harder for forwards to impact the style of play as much as midfielders. The fact that our best players is Boyle means that our manager, quite rightly had us playing our best football on the break. But soaking up pressure, firing the ball “in- behind” and hoping his pace will catch defences out, is not really what Hibs fans want..it becomes one dimensional. At the start of the season Magennis was doing a great job of driving forward and getting on the end of stuff, but his injuries have denied us that dynamism in midfield. You need great players, to play lovely football consistently, week in week out and on our finances they are hard to find.

If Jack Ross had john McGinn in his team he wouldn’t have been sacked and we would probably be 3rd in the league. We would also be fancying our chances on Sunday, a bit more than we are.

It’s up to managers (along with their recruitment team) to identify and sign good players. McGinn was amazing but we managed to get him when we were a championship side playing in front of 8k. Over four windows we never got anything near that calibre of player in. Might have been bad luck or might have been down to the manager looking for something different.

mal
19-12-2021, 06:28 AM
It’s up to managers (along with their recruitment team) to identify and sign good players. McGinn was amazing but we managed to get him when we were a championship side playing in front of 8k. Over four windows we never got anything near that calibre of player in. Might have been bad luck or might have been down to the manager looking for something different.

Name a player remotely as good as McGinn whom we might have picked up on a Hibs' budget and you have a point. Otherwise you don't.

B.H.F.C
19-12-2021, 06:37 AM
Name a player remotely as good as McGinn whom we might have picked up on a Hibs' budget and you have a point. Otherwise you don't.

We picked up McGinn on our budget. The version we see now wasn’t the one we signed, not even the one we sold.

There are loads of players out there you can buy, develop and improve (not necessarily to that level) but we’ve just not managed to do it.

CapitalGreen
19-12-2021, 07:42 AM
Name a player remotely as good as McGinn whom we might have picked up on a Hibs' budget and you have a point. Otherwise you don't.

We should have pulled out all the stops to sign Glen Kamara from Dundee in Summer 2018. 7 months later he joined Rangers for £50k and became an integral part of Gerrard’s midfield. Now tipped to follow Gerrard down to Villa to play alongside McGinn.

Gaffer1875
19-12-2021, 01:37 PM
John Hartson on premier sports saying the Maloney deal is likely but not yet done, will attend today’s game though..


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Greencore
19-12-2021, 01:37 PM
Announce Dick.

Callum_62
20-12-2021, 07:26 AM
So is the getting annouced today then?

If not you imagine he won't be taking the next game on Wednesday

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SteveHFC
20-12-2021, 10:00 AM
Confirmed

GloryGlory
20-12-2021, 10:01 AM
Official.

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1472884454272253958

GloryGlory
20-12-2021, 10:04 AM
Valerio Zuddas 1st team coach:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/valerio-zuddas/profil/trainer/83504

we are hibs
20-12-2021, 10:04 AM
Valerio Zuddas seems an interesting appointment as a coach.

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He's here!
20-12-2021, 10:05 AM
Official.

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1472884454272253958

SDG staying as first team coach is good news.

MWHIBBIES
20-12-2021, 10:05 AM
Exciting appointment. Best of luck Shaun.

FilipinoHibs
20-12-2021, 10:05 AM
Confirmed

Go the wee man - I am small myself.

Fish
20-12-2021, 10:06 AM
Welcome

Looks like Captain Black from Captain Scarlet….

ekhibee
20-12-2021, 10:07 AM
So who's the 1st team coach, Zuddas or SDG?

SteveHFC
20-12-2021, 10:07 AM
Go the wee man - I am small myself.

So are my :greengrin

Hibbyradge
20-12-2021, 10:07 AM
So who's the 1st team coach, Zuddas or SDG?

Both.

The Captain....
20-12-2021, 10:08 AM
Very decent appointment, glad it wasn't one of the usual suspects.

I hope he is supported and has a clear idea of what he needs player wise. We need first team quality players in key areas all over the pitch.



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Heisenberg
20-12-2021, 10:09 AM
Seems like a bigger backroom staff than before. All the best Shaun!

yerauldda
20-12-2021, 10:09 AM
Can’t imagine it would have been a cheap management team to assemble. Excited by this, no guarantee of success but it’s certainly interesting.

NC1875
20-12-2021, 10:10 AM
I’ve been told tonight that Maloney is a done deal, but he’s bringing in a foreign coach rather than Caldwell.

Caldwell is being considered but Don’t know if that’s as a 3rd coach or an alternative if the foreign guy doesn’t happen for whatever reason.

Info was spot on

Northernhibee
20-12-2021, 10:10 AM
The royalty money he’ll bring in from appearing in Guess Who will help fund another couple of players too.

Scorrie
20-12-2021, 10:10 AM
Zuddas a coach and a strength and conditioning person as well. Has worked in a number of countries. Interesting

Greencore
20-12-2021, 10:11 AM
Jack Ross talk should end today, welcome Shaun and his staff. New start, let's back the new staff and club.

Northernhibee
20-12-2021, 10:13 AM
Zuddas a coach and a strength and conditioning person as well. Has worked in a number of countries. Interesting

Seen an interview in lockdown when Maloney was talking about how at elite teams the attitude to training every single day is the same - fully committed whether home or away.

A conditioning coach makes perfect sense if he’s expecting that from us.

I also hope it pays dividends for Scott Allan as he may get a lot from that sort of coach.

Scorrie
20-12-2021, 10:14 AM
BBC Scotland are reporting Caldwell as Maloney’s assistant ...

jeffers
20-12-2021, 10:14 AM
Both.

The cynic in me thinks getting rid of SDG now wouldn’t have gone down well, but I’m expecting him to be eased out in the coming months. Hopefully I’m way off.

Hibbyradge
20-12-2021, 10:15 AM
BBC Scotland are reporting Caldwell as Maloney’s assistant ...

It's in the Hibs report.

Scorrie
20-12-2021, 10:16 AM
It's in the Hibs report.

Yep just seen that. Thought that Zuddas was assistant but he’s strength and conditioning

BoomtownHibees
20-12-2021, 10:17 AM
Info was spot on

Spot on other than the fact he has brought Caldwell in as assistant

Pretty Boy
20-12-2021, 10:17 AM
Pleased to see us going for something a bit different. I would have been fine with McIness or Neil but this has more of an edge to it. Could be Mowbray or could be Cathro. We'll find out soon enough.

JXM73
20-12-2021, 10:18 AM
BBC Scotland are reporting Caldwell as Maloney’s assistant ...

Hopefully as assistant all he's doing is making tea and doing the paperwork...

Stevie Reid
20-12-2021, 10:20 AM
Gone from pleasantly surprised to absolutely buzzing about this appointment since the news was leaked last week.

That’s quite a team he’s brought with him and fingers crossed Ron and Ben’s bravery will be rewarded.

The remit couldn’t be clearer. The last time we placed this much emphasis on how we wanted to play the game, we appointed Mowbray. Hopefully that’s a good omen.

ekhibee
20-12-2021, 10:20 AM
The Scotsman says Caldwell is the assistant manager.

hibeedonald
20-12-2021, 10:20 AM
The cynic in me thinks getting rid of SDG now wouldn’t have gone down well, but I’m expecting him to be eased out in the coming months. Hopefully I’m way off.

Hopefully SDG can get a job managing a championship team as a stepping stone to us.

Hibbyradge
20-12-2021, 10:21 AM
The cynic in me thinks getting rid of SDG now wouldn’t have gone down well, but I’m expecting him to be eased out in the coming months. Hopefully I’m way off.

That's a possibility. He could also get a job elsewhere. He could be moved upstairs. Who knows what the future holds but as you say, we'll find out eventually.

If Maloney gets us playing attractive football, the fans might be disappointed should SDG move on, but they'll accept it.

CL0762
20-12-2021, 10:22 AM
Excited by this, a nice pick me up from yesterday.

Torto7
20-12-2021, 10:25 AM
I'm excited. I always liked Maloney as a player and he's taken an interesting non typically Scottish path into management. Good luck to him.

BoomtownHibees
20-12-2021, 10:25 AM
The Scotsman says Caldwell is the assistant manager.

So does the Hibs announcement

The 90+2
20-12-2021, 10:30 AM
Good luck Maloney. Let’s hope he’s a success and the fans are excited watching the team he sets up.

gbhibby
20-12-2021, 10:31 AM
Great news. I think weaknesses in fitness of players has been identified and the appointment of a strength and conditioning coach highlights that. Let's get right behind the new management team.

JGS56
20-12-2021, 10:32 AM
I know this pedantic - but do people notice he is classed as "The Manager " and not the Head Coach.

S4uzee
20-12-2021, 10:33 AM
I know this pedantic - but do people notice he is classed as "The Manager " and not the Head Coach.

Yes I noticed that too

JGS56
20-12-2021, 10:36 AM
Yes I noticed that too

Also, just noticed that the signs on the wall and door at HTC also show "Manager" - so obviously a slight change in coaching direction where he oversees all aspects of all the playing staff.

Hibs90
20-12-2021, 10:38 AM
I know this pedantic - but do people notice he is classed as "The Manager " and not the Head Coach.

Probably because JR is still going to be paid off over time.

Heisenberg
20-12-2021, 10:38 AM
Also, just noticed that the signs on the wall and door at HTC also show "Manager" - so obviously a slight change in coaching direction where he oversees all aspects of all the playing staff.

I’m guessing they lost faith in the old setup after the summer transfer window.

euro Hibby
20-12-2021, 10:39 AM
valerio Zudddas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjLZ1_3nLcE

MWHIBBIES
20-12-2021, 10:40 AM
Probably because JR is still going to be paid off over time.

Why would that have anything to do with it?

GloryGlory
20-12-2021, 10:42 AM
The cynic in me thinks getting rid of SDG now wouldn’t have gone down well, but I’m expecting him to be eased out in the coming months. Hopefully I’m way off.

Or he is encouraged to get a job somewhere else to develop his coaching career, with Hibs monitoring his progress as a potential future manager/assistant. Another way of looking at the same thing, I suppose.

Jamesie
20-12-2021, 10:42 AM
Why would that have anything to do with it?

Because JR might still be in post as head coach. In fact, thinking about the statement - "relieved of his duties" - I suspect he most probably is.

MWHIBBIES
20-12-2021, 10:44 AM
Because JR might still be in post as head coach. In fact, thinking about the statement - "relieved of his duties" - I suspect he most probably is.

We can hire 20 head coaches if we want. or 20 managers.

Really don't think that has anything to do with it.

norhfc
20-12-2021, 10:44 AM
Have to say I’m a wee bit excited about this appointment. The strength and conditioning coach also. It’s been obvious for a good few seasons now that most opposing teams work harder than us. Even yesterday when we won the ball there where 2-3 Celtic players hunting it back again.

Shaggy
20-12-2021, 10:49 AM
Well.... I am saying welcome Shaun,

the main thing I want from him to bring from celtic is "play every second of the game"

A few more seconds attention yesterday was what changed the game.
I always admired him as a player, hope he has some of that flair on the sidelines.

greenlex
20-12-2021, 10:51 AM
Welcome Shaun.

scuttle
20-12-2021, 10:56 AM
Welcome to the Hibees,I have 3 words of advice for you
Attack,Attack,Attack

Walter
20-12-2021, 10:57 AM
Sure I read Caldwell as assistant

Lago
20-12-2021, 10:57 AM
Exciting appointment. Best of luck Shaun.
It really is, well done hibs

The 90+2
20-12-2021, 10:58 AM
Probably because JR is still going to be paid off over time.

They made a point of saying last week the next appointment will be manager and not head coach and it’s a significant change.

GloryGlory
20-12-2021, 10:58 AM
Have to say I’m a wee bit excited about this appointment. The strength and conditioning coach also. It’s been obvious for a good few seasons now that most opposing teams work harder than us. Even yesterday when we won the ball there where 2-3 Celtic players hunting it back again.

If we are going to be playing a high pressing type of game, we need to maximise the physical strength and endurance of every player.

madhatter
20-12-2021, 10:58 AM
Have to say I’m a wee bit excited about this appointment. The strength and conditioning coach also. It’s been obvious for a good few seasons now that most opposing teams work harder than us. Even yesterday when we won the ball there where 2-3 Celtic players hunting it back again.

Strength and conditioning is a massive part of the game now. Crucial, even to teams that dominate possession.

I don't understand getting an author in as a Head of Technical Support though (Brian Doogan). Just don't understand the position tbh - I'm sure there are merits to it.

The 90+2
20-12-2021, 10:59 AM
Because JR might still be in post as head coach. In fact, thinking about the statement - "relieved of his duties" - I suspect he most probably is.

Hecky was in the same boat when we appointed “another” head coach.

ScottB
20-12-2021, 11:01 AM
Seems a strong line up with interesting backgrounds and a bit of managerial experience beyond Shaun himself. Hopefully can bring in the mentality and standards from the higher levels of the game.

BlackSheep
20-12-2021, 11:01 AM
There's now a queue to buy tickets for the game on Wednesday....

The 90+2
20-12-2021, 11:03 AM
The new coach I’ve never heard of seems an interesting appointment on paper. Maloney seems to have done really well attracting him here.

CapitalGreen
20-12-2021, 11:04 AM
Welcome Shaun, looking forward to what you can and your team can do once your ideas are implemented.

NC1875
20-12-2021, 11:04 AM
Spot on other than the fact he has brought Caldwell in as assistant

If you read it again you’ll see I was told he was bringing in a foreign coach. Pretty sure he’s brought in a foreign coach. Didn’t mention anything about assistants.

Cheers for the smart comment though 👍🏼

GreenPJ
20-12-2021, 11:06 AM
The new coach I’ve never heard of seems an interesting appointment on paper. Maloney seems to have done really well attracting him here.

The Youtube interview is interesting - interesting he admits his failures and lack of understanding culture earlier in his career as a coach and is very aware of understanding culture of country and club previously.

Kato
20-12-2021, 11:09 AM
Jambos at work were giggling at the idea Maloney would come to Hibs. All quiet just now.

Welcome Shaun.

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PolmontHibby
20-12-2021, 11:11 AM
Welcome and good luck Shaun.

Appointments seem clear to me....except Brian Doogan role.
If I am getting the correct Brian Doogan he seems to have a media background? Or can someone point me in right direction?

The 90+2
20-12-2021, 11:14 AM
Welcome and good luck Shaun.

Appointments seem clear to me....except Brian Doogan role.
If I am getting the correct Brian Doogan he seems to have a media background? Or can someone point me in right direction?

Media and communications at Everton and Villa.

Since452
20-12-2021, 11:14 AM
It's an interesting appointment.

Is It On....
20-12-2021, 11:31 AM
First Malaysian born manager of a club in the UK?

I honestly think we have a good squad that haven't been performing as they should. Cut out defensive errors, Doidge and Nisbet back as a front 2 and some selective recruitment in January and we should be top 4 by the end of the season. 🙂

GreenCastle
20-12-2021, 11:40 AM
Welcome to Hibs!

Some thought it would be an American or the usual suspects so I’m glad we went a different route.

It’s pretty random going from Belgium assistant to Hibs but he obviously wants to be here so let’s give him our full support.

Next 4 games are difficult..

Looking forward to seeing how we do and if he makes any changes - realistically changing too much too soon would be very Stendal like..

I assume he will keep it simple next 4 games and then use the winter break to implement more changes with new players etc.

Ronniekirk
20-12-2021, 11:50 AM
Valerio Zuddas 1st team coach:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/valerio-zuddas/profil/trainer/83504

Bags of experience in different roles Sounds interesting


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Antifa Hibs
20-12-2021, 11:52 AM
Welcome to the Cabbage. Bring on Wednesday now. Massive game and can't afford a defeat.


Any interviews with Maloney yet?

Is It On....
20-12-2021, 11:59 AM
Bags of experience in different roles Sounds interesting


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"Zuddas has two Bachelor’s Degrees; one in Exercise and Sports Science and another in Communication and Information Sciences. He also has certificates in Strength and Conditioning for Football, Advanced Sport Nutrition, and Neurobiology and Performance from the Barça Innovation Hub"

No excuses for lack of fitness in the future and he can also encourage the players to try harder in 6 different languages

Iggy Pope
20-12-2021, 12:01 PM
Welcome to the Hibees,I have 3 words of advice for you
Attack,Attack,Attack

I’ve another three. Don’t read .net :greengrin

bingo70
20-12-2021, 12:03 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/maloneys-mission-to-excite-and-inspire-fans

Encouraging words there. Seems to have identified everything that’s been missing from us recently.

LunasBoots
20-12-2021, 12:07 PM
Welcome Shaun, all the best

Things won't change overnight but with a couple transfer windows behind him I think we will see a completely different side.

Iain G
20-12-2021, 12:07 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/maloneys-mission-to-excite-and-inspire-fans

Encouraging words there. Seems to have identified everything that’s been missing from us recently.

It's exciting and we gotta have hope and some patience to let him implement his ideas, it will take some time and having the transfer window ahead and the winter break will help him.

Hibees1973
20-12-2021, 12:10 PM
Just my opinion but I do not like this appointment.

Maloney seems like a bit of a mouse and failure has followed Caldwell throughout his time in management. Also any time I have heard Caldwell he is a total bore. Even worse than Steven Pressley when I have heard him on the radio.

Just don't know what qualifications these guys had to get the managerial jobs at Hibs apart from being slightly above average players.

Time will tell if my opinion is correct.

Moulin Yarns
20-12-2021, 12:11 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/maloneys-mission-to-excite-and-inspire-fans

Encouraging words there. Seems to have identified everything that’s been missing from us recently.

Sounds good, the only problem I can see is we don't have 11 Belgian internationals in the squad. 😉

bingo70
20-12-2021, 12:12 PM
Sounds good, the only problem I can see is we don't have 11 Belgian internationals in the squad. 😉

Not yet but the transfer window is just around the corner 😉

Is Kompany still at Anderlecht? Wonder if he’s got any young Lukakus he could punt our way.

snedzuk
20-12-2021, 12:13 PM
Welcome

Looks like Captain Black from Captain Scarlet….

Good - he was the evil one - Im not into any of this Colonel White stuff.

Coco Bryce
20-12-2021, 12:14 PM
Just my opinion but I do not like this appointment.

Maloney seems like a bit of a mouse and failure has followed Caldwell throughout his time in management. Also any time I have heard Caldwell he is a total bore. Even worse than Steven Pressley when I have heard him on the radio.

Just don't know what qualifications these guys had to get the managerial jobs at Hibs apart from being slightly above average players.

Time will tell if my opinion is correct.

It's a gamble but **** it! So was Mowbray.

HibsGW
20-12-2021, 12:16 PM
Just my opinion but I do not like this appointment.

Maloney seems like a bit of a mouse and failure has followed Caldwell throughout his time in management. Also any time I have heard Caldwell he is a total bore. Even worse than Steven Pressley when I have heard him on the radio.

Just don't know what qualifications these guys had to get the managerial jobs at Hibs apart from being slightly above average players.

Time will tell if my opinion is correct.

Surely being assistant manager of the number 1 ranked national team is qualification for managing Hibs, I don’t mean by that that there’s no risk because of course he’s not got any management experience yet but if he did he’d probably be out of our reach with the high level he’s been involved at already.

Aldo
20-12-2021, 12:22 PM
It's a gamble but **** it! So was Mowbray.

Every manager is a gamble imho!

Really looking forward to this appointment to see where he can take us!


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IncredibleHibee
20-12-2021, 12:24 PM
Maloney announced. The footballing equivalent of getting coal for Christmas?

He's here!
20-12-2021, 12:25 PM
Just my opinion but I do not like this appointment.

Maloney seems like a bit of a mouse and failure has followed Caldwell throughout his time in management. Also any time I have heard Caldwell he is a total bore. Even worse than Steven Pressley when I have heard him on the radio.

Just don't know what qualifications these guys had to get the managerial jobs at Hibs apart from being slightly above average players.

Time will tell if my opinion is correct.

Caldwell was a player I found it hard to warm to at Hibs. I couldn't really put my finger on why - a slight air of arrogance maybe? However, his time in management was mixed rather than a failure. He got Wigan promoted IIRC. Pretty sure Partick were in relegation bother when he took over and he kept them up. Not spectacular perhaps but I'm not going to get too hot and bothered about him being our assistant manager. Who knows, it might turn out to be a role that suits him better than being the main man. He seems to have more sound qualifications for the role than the likes of Gary Parker did.

Unseen work
20-12-2021, 12:28 PM
There’s something really exciting about this for me.

Don’t get me wrong I’m nervous as it’s the complete unknown, but instead of bringing in a steady manager I think we’ve put in place a potential game changer and something the fans can get behind.

Ron is all about the match day experience and making Easter road a fortress and that wasn’t happening under Ross and he’s understood that.

Maloney is a young, hungry coach who by all accounts is very good at what he does. He is almost certainly going to try “Positional play” which if you don’t know much about it’s something I’d read up on as it’s hugely fascinating and used by some of the top clubs in the world

If his man management is right and he can implement it properly he’ll do brilliantly.

He’s not a shouter, he’s very methodical and a quiet thinker. That’s where Caldwell comes in, he’ll be the one screaming and shouting.

Between them and Zuddas though they all appear to have different attributes and if it matches up then wow. That style and a early transfer window to help put it in place is brilliant.

Spike Mandela
20-12-2021, 12:29 PM
Interesting appointment. Fingers crossed it works out for him and us.:thumbsup:

He helped implement an attacking style with Belgium:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin. It’s alright doing that with the no.1 country in the world and their players but a whole differnt thing doing that with Hibs though. We shall see.

Moulin Yarns
20-12-2021, 12:30 PM
Not yet but the transfer window is just around the corner 😉

Is Kompany still at Anderlecht? Wonder if he’s got any young Lukakus he could punt our way.

The under 21s look good, I wonder what the chances of a loan or 2. 🤔

wookie70
20-12-2021, 12:31 PM
Good luck Shaun. I really like he has a footballing philosophy and he realises that you will be judged on both style and points at ER. If he wants to play the style he has described as subscribing to in the past then I feel he will have a very quick learning curve as Scottish referees will allow all sorts of fouls before actually awarding a free kick and that may scupper any plans for his favoured positional play. He sounds like he has a plan though and hopefully he can find a way to make it work with the squad he has and the style of refereeing. There is a hint on the official site statement that he realises that it will take time, "How quickly I can implement that time will tell." I hope we get the grand plan laid out as fans could easily buy into that as they did the successful plan LD put in.

Unseen work
20-12-2021, 12:34 PM
One thing I hope for is a bit of patience with fans.

Our next games are all very toughness fixtures and because of the close proximity of them he will have next to no time on the training pitch to implement his ideas

Positional play needs a lot of work done on it both on the pitch and watching on a screen

Moulin Yarns
20-12-2021, 12:34 PM
In other news I see Duff Jimmy has been sacked by Ayr United after 3 months

GreenCastle
20-12-2021, 12:34 PM
Going to be interesting to see if we start playing 4-3-3 or 3-4-3.

If this is the case certain players in the current squad will definitely be moving on.

Ronniekirk
20-12-2021, 12:35 PM
Sounds good, the only problem I can see is we don't have 11 Belgian internationals in the squad. [emoji6]

Thst will change in the January window [emoji848][emoji849]


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Steve88
20-12-2021, 12:36 PM
Going to be interesting to see if we start playing 4-3-3 or 3-4-3.

If this is the case certain players in the current squad will definitely be moving on.

If I seen 2 DM's + 1 striker continuing under him I'll be less than impressed

Vault Boy
20-12-2021, 12:37 PM
I've got absolutely no idea what Shaun Maloney will bring to the club, but that's exactly why I'm excited. Dynamic, possession based, attacking football are certainly the right phrases to use to entice Hibs fans, let's hope he can deliver it. Welcome on board.

On the face of it, I'm not delighted with the fact we've gone back to a manager model rather than a HC with more specialised football ops roles, but it really does depend on how it's actually going to work in practice. More than willing to give it time.

B.H.F.C
20-12-2021, 12:39 PM
One thing I hope for is a bit of patience with fans.

Our next games are all very toughness fixtures and because of the close proximity of them he will have next to no time on the training pitch to implement his ideas

Positional play needs a lot of work done on it both on the pitch and watching on a screen

Don’t expect too much to change over the next four games. We just need to try and scrape as many points together as we can. Hopefully having a new gaffer to impress helps pick them up after yesterday though. Winter break probably comes at a good time for him to get some time on the training pitch to get his ideas across.

lord bunberry
20-12-2021, 12:40 PM
I hope he doesn’t try and change things too quickly as I don’t think that will work. He needs to sign a few players in January and get us up into the European spots and then start any real changes when he can work full time with the players in pre season.

JeMeSouviens
20-12-2021, 12:40 PM
One thing I hope for is a bit of patience with fans.

Our next games are all very toughness fixtures and because of the close proximity of them he will have next to no time on the training pitch to implement his ideas

Positional play needs a lot of work done on it both on the pitch and watching on a screen

:agree:

I can't see how he's going to be able to make much change before the January break with so little training ground time? Maybe we'll get a new manager bounce. Fingers crossed.

Ronniekirk
20-12-2021, 12:40 PM
"Zuddas has two Bachelor’s Degrees; one in Exercise and Sports Science and another in Communication and Information Sciences. He also has certificates in Strength and Conditioning for Football, Advanced Sport Nutrition, and Neurobiology and Performance from the Barça Innovation Hub"

No excuses for lack of fitness in the future and he can also encourage the players to try harder in 6 different languages

Interesting right enough


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Green_one
20-12-2021, 12:41 PM
Maloney announced. The footballing equivalent of getting coal for Christmas?

Seldom have a view on a new manager as we usually need to wait and see. However I am not happy about Maloney. Put aside his limited experience he always comes across to me as a weak individual who will struggle to control a dressing room. Additionally I do not like Caldwell. His arrogance is well known and the combination of those two seems very poor.

Ok I could be wrong, I hope so. But we are replacing a manager who got us third place, 4 semis and 2 finals in a row, so they cannot hide behind the team needing major rebuild. Just not sure where we are going. Worried too about where SDG finds himself.

Unseen work
20-12-2021, 12:41 PM
I’m really intrigued to see what he makes of our current squad.

He’s going to want players very comfortable in possession and mobile with the attacking players creative, direct and mobile.

Hallberg - Would probably have left in the summer if not for an injury. He’s one I could see suiting Maloneys style.

Gogic - Can’t see him fitting in at all and expect him to leave.

Scott - I was delighted when we signed him due to his Motherwell appearances but he’s been miles off it. Can Maloney get a tune out of him?

Allan - Another that would have likely left, Maloney may think he’s perfect for how he wants to play and has the intelligence to find gaps.

Wright - Likely to move on but he might be used as a right wing back? Comfortable on the ball, probably more so than Cadden but by in large has been poor to say the least. Can his fortunes change?

Gullan - A good young player but never had much of a run, Maloney might like his directness and technical ability.

The above plus others though may give Maloney an opportunity to completely change the squad, out with out normally starting 11 very few players offer anything at all. Not just quality, but literally not even getting on the pitch.

He could easily come in and get rid of

Wright
Scott
Gogic
Hallberg
Mackie
Gullan

Without anyone really noticing.

SquashedFrogg
20-12-2021, 12:41 PM
Just my opinion but I do not like this appointment.

Maloney seems like a bit of a mouse and failure has followed Caldwell throughout his time in management. Also any time I have heard Caldwell he is a total bore. Even worse than Steven Pressley when I have heard him on the radio.

Just don't know what qualifications these guys had to get the managerial jobs at Hibs apart from being slightly above average players.

Time will tell if my opinion is correct.

If you don't know what qualifications these guys have, how can you question their appointment?

SquashedFrogg
20-12-2021, 12:44 PM
Lots of 'seems to be', 'appears to be', 'comes across as' etc in the negative responses here.

Every managerial appointment is a gamble of sorts.

JeMeSouviens
20-12-2021, 12:50 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHDR0AiWQAESfD6?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Liking the wallpaper!

Mon_the_cabbage
20-12-2021, 12:53 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHDR0AiWQAESfD6?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Liking the wallpaper!

Has to be a caption competition surely? 😀😀

“Who can tell me what those white things with the nets at each end of the pitch are? Anyone?”

Hibs90
20-12-2021, 12:55 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHDR3l3XMAcwAxJ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Inconsequential
20-12-2021, 12:59 PM
New manager, new outlook, new methods, new dreams and same old spelling errors on Hibsnet. The new manager is Shaun not Sean. Sean is for Connery, Shaun is for Hibs. Not another two years (estimate) as the incumbent of the manager's chair with his name incorrectly spelt. Bring back Heckinbotham, Hecinbottoms, Heckingbottom! Any one know the correct spelling? :greengrin

greenlex
20-12-2021, 12:59 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHDR3l3XMAcwAxJ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
FFS He better not be planning to play Boyle in the middle of a back 5!!!!!

Stevie Reid
20-12-2021, 01:00 PM
In other news I see Duff Jimmy has been sacked by Ayr United after 3 months

When I was doing my research on the age of Hibs managers when we appointed them, obviously Jim Duffy was in there. I had completely forgotten that Hearts had appointed him as Director of Football (albeit for a very short space of time) in 2006.

What a mental few years that was.

greenlex
20-12-2021, 01:00 PM
New manager, new outlook, new methods, new dreams and same old spelling errors on Hibsnet. The new manager is Shaun not Sean. Sean is for Connery, Shaun is for Hibs. Not another two years (estimate) as the incumbent of the manager's chair with his name incorrectly spelt. Bring back Heckinbotham, Hecinbottoms, Heckingbottom! Any one know the correct spelling? :greengrin
Heccies had three wins on the spin at the blades.:wink:

Northernhibee
20-12-2021, 01:01 PM
Strongest jawline for a Hibs manager in some time.

ahibby
20-12-2021, 01:03 PM
FFS He better not be planning to play Boyle in the middle of a back 5!!!!!

If he breaks that chair, he is paying for it!

Since90+2
20-12-2021, 01:04 PM
Seldom have a view on a new manager as we usually need to wait and see. However I am not happy about Maloney. Put aside his limited experience he always comes across to me as a weak individual who will struggle to control a dressing room. Additionally I do not like Caldwell. His arrogance is well known and the combination of those two seems very poor.

Ok I could be wrong, I hope so. But we are replacing a manager who got us third place, 4 semis and 2 finals in a row, so they cannot hide behind the team needing major rebuild. Just not sure where we are going. Worried too about where SDG finds himself.

Genuine question, where or what have you seen of Maloney that makes you think he's a weak individual? Generally players who played at his level (at Celtic, English Premier League, Champions League , Europa ,or Uefa at the time, cup, winning 47 international caps) are pretty confident and strong willed individuals.

What have you seen that suggests otherwise?

JeMeSouviens
20-12-2021, 01:04 PM
New manager, new outlook, new methods, new dreams and same old spelling errors on Hibsnet. The new manager is Shaun not Sean. Sean is for Connery, Shaun is for Hibs. Not another two years (estimate) as the incumbent of the manager's chair with his name incorrectly spelt. Bring back Heckinbotham, Hecinbottoms, Heckingbottom! Any one know the correct spelling? :greengrin

Dunno, but you could ask Leeanne/Leigh-anne/Liane, she might know?

ahibby
20-12-2021, 01:04 PM
New manager, new outlook, new methods, new dreams and same old spelling errors on Hibsnet. The new manager is Shaun not Sean. Sean is for Connery, Shaun is for Hibs. Not another two years (estimate) as the incumbent of the manager's chair with his name incorrectly spelt. Bring back Heckinbotham, Hecinbottoms, Heckingbottom! Any one know the correct spelling? :greengrin

but is it still fundamentally an Irish name, that is what matters most?

CL0762
20-12-2021, 01:05 PM
Just my opinion but I do not like this appointment.

Maloney seems like a bit of a mouse and failure has followed Caldwell throughout his time in management. Also any time I have heard Caldwell he is a total bore. Even worse than Steven Pressley when I have heard him on the radio.

Just don't know what qualifications these guys had to get the managerial jobs at Hibs apart from being slightly above average players.

Time will tell if my opinion is correct.

Maloney - 5 SPL titles, 3 league cups, 1 FA Cup, PFA players player & young player of the year, 47 Scotland caps

Caldwell - 2 SPL titles, 1 Scottish cup, 1 league cup, 1 FA cup, writers player of the year, SPL player of the year, 55 Scotland caps.

Not to mention multiple appearances in the premier league, champions league.

If that’s what you term as ‘above average players’ then god knows what success for us will look like for you

Spike Mandela
20-12-2021, 01:07 PM
Tough act to follow imo. Ross had a 3rd place finish 2 semi final cup runs and 2 finalist cup runs. Irrespective of style, current form or not winning big games that’s an impressive record.

bingo70
20-12-2021, 01:12 PM
Tough act to follow imo. Ross had a 3rd place finish 2 semi final cup runs and 2 finalist cup runs. Irrespective of style, current form or not winning big games that’s an impressive record.

Yes but there will be more leeway given for not achieving those things if punters are enjoying their trips to Easter Road.

Say we finish 4th and don’t win a trophy but have a good record against Hearts while playing good attacking football for example I think short term people will be happy with that. In time he’d need to build on that but I think the last couple of years has proven that decent results on paper wont be enough to capture the imagination of the fans.

Sir David Gray
20-12-2021, 01:13 PM
It's a cautious welcome from me.

I know nothing about him as a manager so I think we have no option but to just wait and see what happens and hope that the board get it right.

He certainly has a massive rebuilding job on his hands that's for sure.

Pete
20-12-2021, 01:13 PM
I can see this being a Cathro-esque appointment, but in a good way.
Both are young, well travelled, eager to learn and have fresh ideas. The difference with Maloney is that he will command respect in the dressing room as he's been there and bought the t shirt as a player. Do the present players have the ability to rise to the challenge?
I'm genuinely excited by this appointment...plus, his suit game is strong, which speaks volumes.

MWHIBBIES
20-12-2021, 01:14 PM
Just my opinion but I do not like this appointment.

Maloney seems like a bit of a mouse and failure has followed Caldwell throughout his time in management. Also any time I have heard Caldwell he is a total bore. Even worse than Steven Pressley when I have heard him on the radio.

Just don't know what qualifications these guys had to get the managerial jobs at Hibs apart from being slightly above average players.

Time will tell if my opinion is correct.

Ah yes, hes short and well spoken, clearly a mouse.

Hibs really isn't some special job. What qualifications did Collins, Mowbray or Stubbs have?

SaulGoodman
20-12-2021, 01:18 PM
Genuine question, where or what have you seen of Maloney that makes you think he's a weak individual? Generally players who played at his level (at Celtic, English Premier League, Champions League , Europa ,or Uefa at the time, cup, winning 47 international caps) are pretty confident and strong willed individuals.

What have you seen that suggests otherwise?

Usual Hibs.net if he’s no shouting he’s a weak individual. He should be baring his teeth and clenching his fists like Butcher was doing at his unveiling

500miles
20-12-2021, 01:24 PM
It'll be a laugh when we play possession football and everyone moans about how slow and boring it is.

worcesterhibby
20-12-2021, 01:25 PM
well it's going to be exciting to see how this works out..and after the dissapointment of the final for the players, it's good that someone fresh and enthusiastic is coming in..onwards and upwards !

GloryGlory
20-12-2021, 01:25 PM
Has to be a caption competition surely? 😀😀

“Who can tell me what those white things with the nets at each end of the pitch are? Anyone?”

I hope it's something like:

"This is your workplace. It's called Fortress Easter Road."

MWHIBBIES
20-12-2021, 01:26 PM
It'll be a laugh when we play possession football and everyone moans about how slow and boring it is.

Then we'll play direct football and folk will moan we just hoof it.

GloryGlory
20-12-2021, 01:27 PM
It'll be a laugh when we play possession football and everyone moans about how slow and boring it is.

How long will it take for the first "get the ball up the park!" to be shouted from the stands?

wookie70
20-12-2021, 01:27 PM
I’m really intrigued to see what he makes of our current squad.

He’s going to want players very comfortable in possession and mobile with the attacking players creative, direct and mobile.

Hallberg - Would probably have left in the summer if not for an injury. He’s one I could see suiting Maloneys style.

Gogic - Can’t see him fitting in at all and expect him to leave.

Scott - I was delighted when we signed him due to his Motherwell appearances but he’s been miles off it. Can Maloney get a tune out of him?

Allan - Another that would have likely left, Maloney may think he’s perfect for how he wants to play and has the intelligence to find gaps.

Wright - Likely to move on but he might be used as a right wing back? Comfortable on the ball, probably more so than Cadden but by in large has been poor to say the least. Can his fortunes change?

Gullan - A good young player but never had much of a run, Maloney might like his directness and technical ability.

The above plus others though may give Maloney an opportunity to completely change the squad, out with out normally starting 11 very few players offer anything at all. Not just quality, but literally not even getting on the pitch.

He could easily come in and get rid of

Wright
Scott
Gogic
Hallberg
Mackie
Gullan

Without anyone really noticing.

I think he would lose all of those and Murphy and maybe Doidge too. I wonder about Boyle. He is our goal threat most of the time but he doesn't really play a passing game and seems to thrive when he can just do what he feels. It would certainly spell the end for Daz but I could see Lewis getting lots of game time.

Halmyre Hibee
20-12-2021, 01:29 PM
I want to enjoy going along to see Hibs not feeling miserable watching boring football. I really hope the new manager & coaching staff do well. We seem to have a good crop of youngsters developing and if we can get rid of some or all of the mediocre players we have, replacing them with a higher standard with a winning mentality then we could be on to a winner here. In the meantime let’s try and finish as high up the league as we can and return to Hampden and lift the Scottish Cup. No pressure then Shaun.

superfurryhibby
20-12-2021, 01:30 PM
Seldom have a view on a new manager as we usually need to wait and see. However I am not happy about Maloney. Put aside his limited experience he always comes across to me as a weak individual who will struggle to control a dressing room. Additionally I do not like Caldwell. His arrogance is well known and the combination of those two seems very poor.

Ok I could be wrong, I hope so. But we are replacing a manager who got us third place, 4 semis and 2 finals in a row, so they cannot hide behind the team needing major rebuild. Just not sure where we are going. Worried too about where SDG finds himself.

Weak individuals tend not to make it to the higher levels of football, either on the field or in management and this team is in need of change, although I'd say renovation rather than rebuild, let's not kid ourselves.

I'm welcoming Maloney and his team to Hibs.

Lago
20-12-2021, 01:32 PM
His appointment has been given seal of approval from John Collins 👌

ahibby
20-12-2021, 01:33 PM
I think he would lose all of those and Murphy and maybe Doidge too. I wonder about Boyle. He is our goal threat most of the time but he doesn't really play a passing game and seems to thrive when he can just do what he feels. It would certainly spell the end for Daz but I could see Lewis getting lots of game time.

Substitute Boyle's name for the new guy Mueller. Maybe I'm wrong but with Martin going on International duty and missing games I think the idea is to have Mueller step in, he seems a similar type.

Skol
20-12-2021, 01:34 PM
Maloney - 5 SPL titles, 3 league cups, 1 FA Cup, PFA players player & young player of the year, 47 Scotland caps

Caldwell - 2 SPL titles, 1 Scottish cup, 1 league cup, 1 FA cup, writers player of the year, SPL player of the year, 55 Scotland caps.

Not to mention multiple appearances in the premier league, champions league.

If that’s what you term as ‘above average players’ then god knows what success for us will look like for you

It didnt work out with Franck Sauzee and I think he was on a very different level as a player to Maloney and Caldwell

Moulin Yarns
20-12-2021, 01:35 PM
Genuine question, where or what have you seen of Maloney that makes you think he's a weak individual? Generally players who played at his level (at Celtic, English Premier League, Champions League , Europa ,or Uefa at the time, cup, winning 47 international caps) are pretty confident and strong willed individuals.

What have you seen that suggests otherwise?

Yep, this isn't shaun the sheep or shaun of the dead, this is Shaun of the Hibs.

ahibby
20-12-2021, 01:35 PM
It didnt work out with Franck Sauzee and I think he was on a very different level as a player to Maloney and Caldwell

When did Sauzee ever assist in the management of a top international, football team. Straight from playing into management, is no comparison at all.

Ozyhibby
20-12-2021, 01:37 PM
Sounds good, the only problem I can see is we don't have 11 Belgian internationals in the squad. [emoji6]

Yet.


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ancient hibee
20-12-2021, 01:39 PM
I thought a mistake was made in sacking Ross but I'm beginning to wonder as I read all the tributes from players whether it was all a bit comfortable for everyone. Maloney has thrived in a hard environment at Parkhead and dealt with top players.He'll do fine.

hibeg
20-12-2021, 01:40 PM
Welcome to Hibs Shaun. Excited to see what he brings to the club. :flag:

hibee-boys
20-12-2021, 01:42 PM
Welcome Shaun, you’ve get my backing 100%.

madhatter
20-12-2021, 01:44 PM
I'm quite excited about this tbh. Whether he delivers or not time will tell. He should have learnt a hell of a lot at Belgium and will have Roberto Martinez to call on should he require any advice.

Glad to see we've brought in reinforcement on the strength and conditioning front.

I know Celtic are financially on a different level but did anyone see the number of staff Ange got to stand beside him for the photo? It looked like they had enough coaches to make a starting 11. Always thought we've always been short in that department as well.

SHODAN
20-12-2021, 01:48 PM
Welcome Sean, excited to see what he can do.

HibsGW
20-12-2021, 01:48 PM
Yep, this isn't shaun the sheep or shaun of the dead, this is Shaun of the Hibs.

It’s like some people have looked at him and went he’s 5 foot 6, no way anyone will respect him or some nonsense like that.

MWHIBBIES
20-12-2021, 01:48 PM
It’s like some people have looked at him and went he’s 5 foot 6, no way anyone will respect him or some nonsense like that.

Thats exactly what has happened tbh. Its geniunely weird.

mcohibs
20-12-2021, 01:58 PM
It’s like some people have looked at him and went he’s 5 foot 6, no way anyone will respect him or some nonsense like that.

I think it's more likely to be due to his age, lack of managerial experience and the fact he comes across as fairly quiet in interviews rather than Hibs fans being 'heightist' tbh. (not that I agree with those reasons, just seems more plausible). Brendan Rodgers is 5'6"

HendoDelivered
20-12-2021, 01:58 PM
Welcome Sean, excited to see what he can do.

It’s happening…. :greengrin

CL0762
20-12-2021, 02:02 PM
It didnt work out with Franck Sauzee and I think he was on a very different level as a player to Maloney and Caldwell

What relevance does Sauzee have in this discussion? I was merely saying that for what Maloney/Caldwell have achieved - I find it baffling they’d be seen as ‘above average players’.

Moulin Yarns
20-12-2021, 02:04 PM
I think it's more likely to be due to his age, lack of managerial experience and the fact he comes across as fairly quiet in interviews rather than Hibs fans being 'heightist' tbh. (not that I agree with those reasons, just seems more plausible). Brendan Rodgers is 5'6"

Even Lennon was quietly spoken in interviews!

J-C
20-12-2021, 02:06 PM
Very glad Maloney is our new boss, played army a high level winning cups, leagues, caps and medals. He's worked under a very good Manager in Martinez and been trusted to work as his assistant for the no.1 ranked team in the world. Hopefully some of his winning professionalism rubs of on these players, they're in for a wee shock I think.

JimBHibees
20-12-2021, 02:22 PM
Just my opinion but I do not like this appointment.

Maloney seems like a bit of a mouse and failure has followed Caldwell throughout his time in management. Also any time I have heard Caldwell he is a total bore. Even worse than Steven Pressley when I have heard him on the radio.

Just don't know what qualifications these guys had to get the managerial jobs at Hibs apart from being slightly above average players.

Time will tell if my opinion is correct.

That's the spirit.

Skol
20-12-2021, 02:23 PM
What relevance does Sauzee have in this discussion? I was merely saying that for what Maloney/Caldwell have achieved - I find it baffling they’d be seen as ‘above average players’.

Sorry, guilty of reading a post and quickly replying while working without understanding the context.

MWHIBBIES
20-12-2021, 02:25 PM
What relevance does Sauzee have in this discussion? I was merely saying that for what Maloney/Caldwell have achieved - I find it baffling they’d be seen as ‘above average players’.

They were above average players, they played for years in the top level in England. They were the top 0.01% of players.

heretoday
20-12-2021, 02:28 PM
I'm just looney about Shaun Malooney!! :flag:

JimBHibees
20-12-2021, 02:28 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHDR3l3XMAcwAxJ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Great photo that. :thumbsup:

Hibernia&Alba
20-12-2021, 02:28 PM
Not an obvious appointment, but we're giving a young new manager a chance. Welcome along, wee man, and the very best of luck.

Hibbyradge
20-12-2021, 02:29 PM
Sounds good, the only problem I can see is we don't have 11 Belgian internationals in the squad. 😉

We just need to be creative in naming the ones we've already got.

I'll start.

De Boyle

Dreis Wright

Christian Bendoidgey

MagicSwirlingShip
20-12-2021, 02:29 PM
Good luck SM & team, really hope this works out well.

In my opinion, it matters not a jot the standard of player Maloney has worked with in the past, as, by his own admission, these footballers are highly self motivated, the best of the best in most areas.

What will see him go far in the role is his ability to motivate and inspire / coach the standard of player already at Easter Rd. Something he has very little demonstratable experience of.

Interesting times ahead.

Hibbyradge
20-12-2021, 02:34 PM
FFS He better not be planning to play Boyle in the middle of a back 5!!!!!

I'd love that! :hilarious

Tambo
20-12-2021, 02:47 PM
Welcome to Hibs Shaun and hopefully it's a success era.

Let the new chapter begin with a win Wednesday.

Tambo
20-12-2021, 02:49 PM
Saying the right things, now need to walk the walk aswell.

Shaun Maloney has vowed to get the Hibs punters excited as he promised a swashbuckling brand of football.

But the new Easter Road gaffer insists there will be substance to the stylish football as he aims to get the Hibees on the winning track.

Magpie
20-12-2021, 02:53 PM
I wasn’t overly excited when his name was first mentioned last week but I am starting to feel a lot more optimistic. It’s a fresh start and he evidently has a plan in my mind of implementing a certain way of playing which should excite all. Whether he can bring that to fruition remains to be seen but he deserves a chance. A few more additions in January and let’s get ourselves back playing European football next season.

Unseen work
20-12-2021, 02:59 PM
Wonder when his interview is up, looking forward to hearing from him

WhileTheChief..
20-12-2021, 03:02 PM
“If you’ve got nothing positive to say…”

😐

heretoday
20-12-2021, 03:02 PM
It's only a matter of time before Eden Hazard rocks up on loan. :greengrin

Northernhibee
20-12-2021, 03:11 PM
Wonder when his interview is up, looking forward to hearing from him

There's one up on Hibs TV. He comes across well.

I particularly like when he points out that whilst Levein was stuck in the bogs at Dens Park in '86 the rest of the Hearts team shat themselves collectively too and that Robbie looks like if you ordered an Ewok off of Wish.com

bigwheel
20-12-2021, 03:12 PM
There's one up on Hibs TV. He comes across well.

I particularly like when he points out that whilst Levein was stuck in the bogs at Dens Park in '86 the rest of the Hearts team shat themselves collectively too and that Robbie looks like if you ordered an Ewok off of Wish.com

I was really surprised when he said he had been reading the Hibs fan forums for tactical advice …..

Pinkie
20-12-2021, 03:14 PM
There's one up on Hibs TV. He comes across well.

I particularly like when he points out that whilst Levein was stuck in the bogs at Dens Park in '86 the rest of the Hearts team shat themselves collectively too and that Robbie looks like if you ordered an Ewok off of Wish.com

That one made me laugh out loud!

Shrekko
20-12-2021, 03:16 PM
I was really surprised when he said he had been reading the Hibs fan forums for tactical advice …..

What better place to come when you’re looking for a micro analysis of everything that happens on a football field from a huge pool of highly competent experts?😉

Tambo
20-12-2021, 04:05 PM
He has hinted the youth will be giving more of a chance under him.

gbhibby
20-12-2021, 04:08 PM
What better place to come when you’re looking for a micro analysis of everything that happens on a football field from a huge pool of highly competent experts?😉
Yes we are the go to people. I am just away to look at the schematics on how to cook my tea,transitioning from the lounge to the kitchen. My wife does not like it when I employ the high press in the kitchen area.😁

Skol
20-12-2021, 04:11 PM
Looking forward to the future now. Wondering if we will see anything much change on Wednesday or will it take a bit longer before any change become apparent.

MWHIBBIES
20-12-2021, 04:11 PM
He has hinted the youth will be giving more of a chance under him.

About time. My one major major gripe throughout Ross' tenure. Full teams against the likes of BSC Glasgow was poor.

Unseen work
20-12-2021, 04:14 PM
About time. My one major major gripe throughout Ross' tenure. Full teams against the likes of BSC Glasgow was poor.

Really?

I can’t really criticise Ross on that front.

Gave Doig and Campbell a lot of trust and game time and has signed younger guys in Mackay, Tait etc.

Re the cups - He rotated the squads and played more fringe players whilst still fielding a strong team. I think that’s part of the reason his cup runs were so good.

Skol
20-12-2021, 04:16 PM
Really?

I can’t really criticise Ross on that front.

Gave Doig and Campbell a lot of trust and game time and has signed younger guys in Mackay, Tait etc.

Re the cups - He rotated the squads and played more fringe players whilst still fielding a strong team. I think that’s part of the reason his cup runs were so good.

I think the problems have more Been with the quality of the available youths in recent times.

MWHIBBIES
20-12-2021, 04:22 PM
Really?

I can’t really criticise Ross on that front.

Gave Doig and Campbell a lot of trust and game time and has signed younger guys in Mackay, Tait etc.

Re the cups - He rotated the squads and played more fringe players whilst still fielding a strong team. I think that’s part of the reason his cup runs were so good.

Doig certainly but he got his chance at first because Lewis was injured and missed pre season. Campbell got his chance because Magennis was injured. Couldn't get a sniff before that really.

I don't think Ross was awful with it, I just think he could've done better. Gullan is a decent young player who should've been getting 15/20 minutes every week last season.

Stonewall
20-12-2021, 04:27 PM
He has hinted the youth will be giving more of a chance under him.

Good, it’s just that’s what Hecky and JR said.

MacBean
20-12-2021, 04:28 PM
He’s live on SSN now, comes across really well

Since452
20-12-2021, 04:29 PM
Looking forward to the future now. Wondering if we will see anything much change on Wednesday or will it take a bit longer before any change become apparent.

Will be much the same until the transfer window I think. Can't see him changing the style too much until then.

Hibby Kay-Yay
20-12-2021, 04:33 PM
Will be much the same until the transfer window I think. Can't see him changing the style too much until then.

The change from Blobby to Mowbray was almost instantaneous in terms of formation and style.

The current system is not working so why stick with it for another 4 games?

Mikey_1875
20-12-2021, 04:38 PM
Welcome Shaun. Tough run of fixtures to start with before the winter break but it should give you a good chance to sort the wheat from the chaff!

Not expecting miracles in the style of play this season but as long as there are small signs of a project starting then i’m sure we can all get behind it.

WhileTheChief..
20-12-2021, 04:39 PM
Yeah ok, I can't stay silent on this, don't shoot me!!

He comes across a lovely lad, talks nicely but by God he sounds so naive.

His interview on Hibs TV was pure say what the fans want to hear. "We want to attack and it's important we all work together". We hear that from every single manager up and down the land.

I've seen nothing to suggest that he offers anything more than JR. I hope he has some magical powers that he' kept hidden that he can use with the payers. Not a chance in Hell that they are sitting thinking can't wait to play for this guy.

I just don't get it. I know i'm hugely in the minority here and don't mean to piss on your chips but this just seems disastrous. If Aberdeen had gone for him we'd be slating Cormack, just like we did with Stephen Glass.

Now, of course I hope i'm wrong and that he goes on to be a huge success but i think we'll be back having this chat before the season is out, or this time next year at the latest.

Absolutely mental appointment.

HendoDelivered
20-12-2021, 04:42 PM
Yeah ok, I can't stay silent on this, don't shoot me!!

He comes across a lovely lad, talks nicely but by God he sounds so naive.

His interview on Hibs TV was pure say what the fans want to hear. "We want to attack and it's important we all work together". We hear that from every single manager up and down the land.

I've seen nothing to suggest that he offers anything more than JR. I hope he has some magical powers that he' kept hidden that he can use with the payers. Not a chance in Hell that they are sitting thinking can't wait to play for this guy.

I just don't get it. I know i'm hugely in the minority here and don't mean to piss on your chips but this just seems disastrous. If Aberdeen had gone for him we'd be slating Cormack, just like we did with Stephen Glass.

Now, of course I hope i'm wrong and that he goes on to be a huge success but i think we'll be back having this chat before the season is out, or this time next year at the latest.

Absolutely mental appointment.

…..Talk about pishing the bed 😂

HibsGW
20-12-2021, 04:42 PM
Yeah ok, I can't stay silent on this, don't shoot me!!

He comes across a lovely lad, talks nicely but by God he sounds so naive.

His interview on Hibs TV was pure say what the fans want to hear. "We want to attack and it's important we all work together". We hear that from every single manager up and down the land.

I've seen nothing to suggest that he offers anything more than JR. I hope he has some magical powers that he' kept hidden that he can use with the payers. Not a chance in Hell that they are sitting thinking can't wait to play for this guy.

I just don't get it. I know i'm hugely in the minority here and don't mean to piss on your chips but this just seems disastrous. If Aberdeen had gone for him we'd be slating Cormack, just like we did with Stephen Glass.

Now, of course I hope i'm wrong and that he goes on to be a huge success but i think we'll be back having this chat before the season is out, or this time next year at the latest.

Absolutely mental appointment.

Even if you disagree and would have preferred someone else, there’s no way that you can call appointing the world number 1 national team’s assistant manager as shambolic. We are Hibs, our options here are guys like Lennon, McInnes and someone more left field with less experience like Maloney. All come with risks.

madhatter
20-12-2021, 04:43 PM
Yeah ok, I can't stay silent on this, don't shoot me!!

He comes across a lovely lad, talks nicely but by God he sounds so naive.

His interview on Hibs TV was pure say what the fans want to hear. "We want to attack and it's important we all work together". We hear that from every single manager up and down the land.

I've seen nothing to suggest that he offers anything more than JR. I hope he has some magical powers that he' kept hidden that he can use with the payers. Not a chance in Hell that they are sitting thinking can't wait to play for this guy.

I just don't get it. I know i'm hugely in the minority here and don't mean to piss on your chips but this just seems disastrous. If Aberdeen had gone for him we'd be slating Cormack, just like we did with Stephen Glass.

Now, of course I hope i'm wrong and that he goes on to be a huge success but i think we'll be back having this chat before the season is out, or this time next year at the latest.

Absolutely mental appointment.

Wow. He's not even had 1 game in charge yet...

All managers say similar things in their first interviews. Not sure what you expect him to say.

Unseen work
20-12-2021, 04:45 PM
Yeah ok, I can't stay silent on this, don't shoot me!!

He comes across a lovely lad, talks nicely but by God he sounds so naive.

His interview on Hibs TV was pure say what the fans want to hear. "We want to attack and it's important we all work together". We hear that from every single manager up and down the land.

I've seen nothing to suggest that he offers anything more than JR. I hope he has some magical powers that he' kept hidden that he can use with the payers. Not a chance in Hell that they are sitting thinking can't wait to play for this guy.

I just don't get it. I know i'm hugely in the minority here and don't mean to piss on your chips but this just seems disastrous. If Aberdeen had gone for him we'd be slating Cormack, just like we did with Stephen Glass.

Now, of course I hope i'm wrong and that he goes on to be a huge success but i think we'll be back having this chat before the season is out, or this time next year at the latest.

Absolutely mental appointment.

I was the opposite, thought he came across very level headed.

Mentioned playing attacking football but also knowing the importance of getting points and the fans expectations.

I think he’s going to surprise a lot of people.

Although not a loud voice by any means, I think he’s got the type of manner that makes you listen to him and believe what he’s saying and will give you confidence.

I’ve played for the old school managers of shouting and screaming and what I’ve seen is it just doesn’t really work. It sometimes makes the players try too hard after getting a bollocking which leads to a daft mistake.

I think Maloney will offer informative help and solutions to problems before and during a game but say it in a firm way which gives the players belief.

gbhibby
20-12-2021, 04:45 PM
Yeah ok, I can't stay silent on this, don't shoot me!!

He comes across a lovely lad, talks nicely but by God he sounds so naive.

His interview on Hibs TV was pure say what the fans want to hear. "We want to attack and it's important we all work together". We hear that from every single manager up and down the land.

I've seen nothing to suggest that he offers anything more than JR. I hope he has some magical powers that he' kept hidden that he can use with the payers. Not a chance in Hell that they are sitting thinking can't wait to play for this guy.

I just don't get it. I know i'm hugely in the minority here and don't mean to piss on your chips but this just seems disastrous. If Aberdeen had gone for him we'd be slating Cormack, just like we did with Stephen Glass.

Now, of course I hope i'm wrong and that he goes on to be a huge success but i think we'll be back having this chat before the season is out, or this time next year at the latest.

Absolutely mental appointment.
I normally have salt and sauce on my chips. 😁

erin go bragh
20-12-2021, 04:46 PM
“If you’ve got nothing positive to say…”

😐

That’s it eh . Why feel the need to post negative crap .
Maybe just trolls from keek back .

SlickShoes
20-12-2021, 04:47 PM
Yeah ok, I can't stay silent on this, don't shoot me!!

He comes across a lovely lad, talks nicely but by God he sounds so naive.

His interview on Hibs TV was pure say what the fans want to hear. "We want to attack and it's important we all work together". We hear that from every single manager up and down the land.

I've seen nothing to suggest that he offers anything more than JR. I hope he has some magical powers that he' kept hidden that he can use with the payers. Not a chance in Hell that they are sitting thinking can't wait to play for this guy.

I just don't get it. I know i'm hugely in the minority here and don't mean to piss on your chips but this just seems disastrous. If Aberdeen had gone for him we'd be slating Cormack, just like we did with Stephen Glass.

Now, of course I hope i'm wrong and that he goes on to be a huge success but i think we'll be back having this chat before the season is out, or this time next year at the latest.

Absolutely mental appointment.

Probably going to have wait until he starts doing the job for that no?

Also, what do you want him to come out and say? "The team is a mess, the way they play is a joke, I'll sack the lot of them if they don't buck up their ideas!"

It sounds like what you want is a Terry Butcher, and we saw how that went wrong. Just wait and see what happens, he deserves as much of a chance as anyone.

jakedance
20-12-2021, 04:50 PM
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say I’ve no idea whether he’ll be successful. Sounds decent though and good luck to him.

The 90+2
20-12-2021, 04:53 PM
…..Talk about pishing the bed 😂

It's called having a difference of opinion.

lyonhibs
20-12-2021, 04:53 PM
He'll be 39 in January. Not actually that young for a Hibs manager:

Pat Stanton - 38
John Blackley - 37
Alex Miller - 37
Jim Duffy - 36
Alex McLeish - 39
Frank Sauzee - 35
Tony Mowbray - 40
John Collins - 38
Mixu Paatelainen - 40

The other more recent ones were all 41 - 45

Alex Miller was born aged 45. Fact.

MWHIBBIES
20-12-2021, 04:55 PM
Yeah ok, I can't stay silent on this, don't shoot me!!

He comes across a lovely lad, talks nicely but by God he sounds so naive.

His interview on Hibs TV was pure say what the fans want to hear. "We want to attack and it's important we all work together". We hear that from every single manager up and down the land.

I've seen nothing to suggest that he offers anything more than JR. I hope he has some magical powers that he' kept hidden that he can use with the payers. Not a chance in Hell that they are sitting thinking can't wait to play for this guy.

I just don't get it. I know i'm hugely in the minority here and don't mean to piss on your chips but this just seems disastrous. If Aberdeen had gone for him we'd be slating Cormack, just like we did with Stephen Glass.

Now, of course I hope i'm wrong and that he goes on to be a huge success but i think we'll be back having this chat before the season is out, or this time next year at the latest.

Absolutely mental appointment.

Always laugh when someone spews a load of baseless, negativity then says they hope they are wrong.

ekhibee
20-12-2021, 04:58 PM
Yeah ok, I can't stay silent on this, don't shoot me!!

He comes across a lovely lad, talks nicely but by God he sounds so naive.

His interview on Hibs TV was pure say what the fans want to hear. "We want to attack and it's important we all work together". We hear that from every single manager up and down the land.

I've seen nothing to suggest that he offers anything more than JR. I hope he has some magical powers that he' kept hidden that he can use with the payers. Not a chance in Hell that they are sitting thinking can't wait to play for this guy.

I just don't get it. I know i'm hugely in the minority here and don't mean to piss on your chips but this just seems disastrous. If Aberdeen had gone for him we'd be slating Cormack, just like we did with Stephen Glass.

Now, of course I hope i'm wrong and that he goes on to be a huge success but i think we'll be back having this chat before the season is out, or this time next year at the latest.

Absolutely mental appointment.

Actually I agree with you but be prepared for plenty of flack. I did find it a bit strange that he stood out from the other candidates that presumably applied for this job, as nice, intelligent guy as he seems, he doesn't really stand out at all IMO.He seems to be trying to say all the right things, but as it is his first managerial job he'll be relying on those around him, probably most of all the assistant manager, Caldwell. Hmm. Anyway, like you I hope I'm totally wrong and he goes on to prove himself a really good manager. We've had a mixed bag in the last 20 years, some good, some bad, some really rotten, it'll be interesting to see how this one works out.

madhatter
20-12-2021, 05:01 PM
Actually I agree with you but be prepared for plenty of flack. I did find it a bit strange that he stood out from the other candidates that presumably applied for this job, as nice, intelligent guy as he seems, he doesn't really stand out at all IMO.He seems to be trying to say all the right things, but as it is his first managerial job he'll be relying on those around him, probably most of all the assistant manager, Caldwell. Hmm. Anyway, like you I hope I'm totally wrong and he goes on to prove himself a really good manager. We've had a mixed bag in the last 20 years, some good, some bad, some really rotten, it'll be interesting to see how this one works out.

How are you comparing him to other candidates without knowing who we actually had on the list? Why isn't he standing out? Is it his height combined with the way he speaks? Isn't big and doesnt talk with some perceived authority?

Hibs90
20-12-2021, 05:06 PM
Yeah ok, I can't stay silent on this, don't shoot me!!

He comes across a lovely lad, talks nicely but by God he sounds so naive.

His interview on Hibs TV was pure say what the fans want to hear. "We want to attack and it's important we all work together". We hear that from every single manager up and down the land.

I've seen nothing to suggest that he offers anything more than JR. I hope he has some magical powers that he' kept hidden that he can use with the payers. Not a chance in Hell that they are sitting thinking can't wait to play for this guy.

I just don't get it. I know i'm hugely in the minority here and don't mean to piss on your chips but this just seems disastrous. If Aberdeen had gone for him we'd be slating Cormack, just like we did with Stephen Glass.

Now, of course I hope i'm wrong and that he goes on to be a huge success but i think we'll be back having this chat before the season is out, or this time next year at the latest.

Absolutely mental appointment.

Nonsense.


He's been given a great platform at Hibs, and will need backed in the transfer market, and by the players to buy into what he wants to do, to be successful. I think he will be and he won't be here for long.

Keith_M
20-12-2021, 05:06 PM
This is really good news for the SMSM, who will continually refer to him as 'Ex-Celt Shaun Maloney'

Since452
20-12-2021, 05:08 PM
This is really good news for the SMSM, who will continually refer to him as 'Ex-Celt Shaun Maloney'

Wonder if he'll constantly be asked questions about Celtic like Lennon was

PPZPOL
20-12-2021, 05:08 PM
Already been labelled as someone who comes across as weak. How that is even a thing is beyond me.

I’m more excited about this than I have been with most appts. Every appointment has a level of risk and we are no different.

Good luck to him, feel like he’ll need it as some people already made up their minds.

madhatter
20-12-2021, 05:10 PM
Wonder if he'll constantly be asked questions about Celtic like Lennon was

Up to him. He can easily stop it by not entertaining them.

B.H.F.C
20-12-2021, 05:11 PM
Yeah ok, I can't stay silent on this, don't shoot me!!

He comes across a lovely lad, talks nicely but by God he sounds so naive.

His interview on Hibs TV was pure say what the fans want to hear. "We want to attack and it's important we all work together". We hear that from every single manager up and down the land.

I've seen nothing to suggest that he offers anything more than JR. I hope he has some magical powers that he' kept hidden that he can use with the payers. Not a chance in Hell that they are sitting thinking can't wait to play for this guy.

I just don't get it. I know i'm hugely in the minority here and don't mean to piss on your chips but this just seems disastrous. If Aberdeen had gone for him we'd be slating Cormack, just like we did with Stephen Glass.

Now, of course I hope i'm wrong and that he goes on to be a huge success but i think we'll be back having this chat before the season is out, or this time next year at the latest.

Absolutely mental appointment.

Is it no an idea to actually see how his team sets up and plays before deciding if he offers more than JR or not?

SHODAN
20-12-2021, 05:12 PM
I'm just gonna go ahead and put on ignore anyone who is rubbishing this right from the start, or makes the lazy Cathro comparison - saves lots of bother and energy. The hysteria over Ross was bad enough but to moan about a new manager before his first game is beyond parody.

Just admit you use Hibs and hibs.net as cathartic release and we'll all respect you more.