Hibs v Arsenal

[18ErinGoBragh75]

Mine are at different addresses and were attached to email.I'll need to email Hibs then cause they've definitely gone through - conformation email and money taken out - but no sign of them

[MacBean]

I'll need to email Hibs then cause they've definitely gone through - conformation email and money taken out - but no sign of them

mine came through with a link at the bottom to add to my wallet or with instructions on how to print the tickets.

[Ringothedog]

Edinburgh Council decision. Permission only required from Scottish Government when council have approved an attendance of 5,000+

I have contacted my local councillor for an explanation of the decision, particularly when Murrayfield had 25% just over a week ago

[Keith_M]

Edinburgh Council decision. Permission only required from Scottish Government when council have approved an attendance of 5,000+


Thanks.

:aok:

[18ErinGoBragh75]

mine came through with a link at the bottom to add to my wallet or with instructions on how to print the tickets.Thanks all for the info - emailed the ticket office and they sent the digital tickets to me manually within 15 mins!

Have to say they're always great whenever I've had to deal with them [emoji106]

[Tambo]

Hopefully this will be streamed.

[overdrive]

Although I think the ticket price is a rip-off, I'm now really excited at getting back to ER, albeit with a pitiful crowd number.

[Ringothedog]

Although I think the ticket price is a rip-off, I'm now really excited at getting back to ER, albeit with a pitiful crowd number.

Been there when it has been lower and the ground was bigger 😂

[Hibby70]

My wee boy wanted to go to the game but can't justify paying £42 for a pre season friendly. So decided to get him a new home top instead.

[h1bs4life]

My wee boy wanted to go to the game but can't justify paying £42 for a pre season friendly. So decided to get him a new home top instead.

See there is still tickets left , no interest in going to friendlies definitely not at £26.
Price is a kick in the baws for people with young kids who have probably paid more than a lot of us did last season to watch games on the internet.
Hopefully although who knows with this council / government we will all get to attend 1st home league game this season with a few walk up supporters as well .

[MixuMac]

Looking at the map for the online purchase of tickets it looks like all 2000 tickets are in the west stand!!

If this is the case surely we could have had another 5 or 6 thousand spread over the other 3 stands.

[nonshinyfinish]

Looking at the map for the online purchase of tickets it looks like all 2000 tickets are in the west stand!!

If this is the case surely we could have had another 5 or 6 thousand spread over the other 3 stands.

Not if the council have only given permission for 2000.

[Peevemor]

Looking at the map for the online purchase of tickets it looks like all 2000 tickets are in the west stand!!

If this is the case surely we could have had another 5 or 6 thousand spread over the other 3 stands.

I wonder if the South Stand concourse is still being used as the away changing room.

[jacomo]

Not if the council have only given permission for 2000.


Our statement confirmed it was a Scottish government decision. It remains inexplicable to me.

[Peevemor]

Our statement confirmed it was a Scottish government decision. It remains inexplicable to me.

City Council decision based on SG guidelines.



Hibernian FC this afternoon announced that the Club today received confirmation from the City of Edinburgh Council that capacity for our friendly match against Arsenal on July (13) will be limited to 2000 home fans only due to national public health guidance.


The Club had pushed hard to admit around 6000 supporters with thorough protocols in place to ensure spectator safety worked through with the local authority, but Scottish Government guidance won’t allow for these numbers.

[nonshinyfinish]

Our statement confirmed it was a Scottish government decision. It remains inexplicable to me.

Either way, my point is that Hibs can't just decide to open up more stands and let more people in.

[jacomo]

Either way, my point is that Hibs can't just decide to open up more stands and let more people in.


Indeed.

[overdrive]

Looking at the map for the online purchase of tickets it looks like all 2000 tickets are in the west stand!!

If this is the case surely we could have had another 5 or 6 thousand spread over the other 3 stands.

There were some (only two sections) in the East too when I logged on.

[Stuart93]

Know what else I’m a bit confused about, if we’ve introduced bronze silver & gold seating, shouldn’t the price of the tickets reflect what section you’ve chose to sit in? Or does that only apply to season tickets?

[Lendo]

Looking at the map for the online purchase of tickets it looks like all 2000 tickets are in the west stand!!

If this is the case surely we could have had another 5 or 6 thousand spread over the other 3 stands.

The rear of the East is being used as a testing centre, so I can’t see that being used to house fans for a while yet.

[hibee_girl]

The rear of the East is being used as a testing centre, so I can’t see that being used to house fans for a while yet.

That’s only till the 11th July

[Steven79]

Know what else I’m a bit confused about, if we’ve introduced bronze silver & gold seating, shouldn’t the price of the tickets reflect what section you’ve chose to sit in? Or does that only apply to season tickets?I think with the limited amount of seats the same price all over is probably fair.

I do think people in the "gold seats" last season should have got a discount this season as people in bronze seats were getting the same view as them for much cheaper...

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[tamig]

Forgot the tickets were up today. My son asked me at 1:30 if I managed to get them. Swiftly logged on and managed to get us two tickets in the last section of the West. Will just be good to see the team in the flesh again - regardless of price.

[Up The Bracket]

No surprise to see they’re still not sold out and I’m pretty glad of this, although I’ve no doubt they will in the end.

Good to see the majority of season ticket holders not rushing to buy tickets when they’re priced so unfairly.

That said, they probably don’t care about upsetting loyal supporters, as long as they get our cash.

[Brightside]

Think the east was only opened at the disabled section.

[jacomo]

Edinburgh Council decision. Permission only required from Scottish Government when council have approved an attendance of 5,000+


But the council claim they refused our request for 6k based on Scot gov guidelines.

It’s a joke.

[hibbyfraelibby]

They are only allowed 500 in total and the same the following week against inverness. I don't know why that's so low

Edinburgh is still in L2 it did not move down to L1 due to the increase in cases. 500 allowed only in L2 unless increase to L1 attendances approved by Council. Any higher must be approved by SG.

I think folk forget we are still in L2 until at least the 17th of July and wont be at L Zero until 9th August.

[hibbyfraelibby]

There was 12.5k there.

12.5k X £15 = £187.5k
2k X £26 = £52k

Spot the difference.

Spot on

[gbhibby]

City Council decision based on SG guidelines.
Bet Hearts would have been allowed more😷😁😁😁😁

[Iggy Pope]

No surprise to see they’re still not sold out and I’m pretty glad of this, although I’ve no doubt they will in the end.

Good to see the majority of season ticket holders not rushing to buy tickets when they’re priced so unfairly.

That said, they probably don’t care about upsetting loyal supporters, as long as they get our cash.

They upset me but I still bought three and I’m huffy about how they sell them too.

[ian omand]

Bet Hearts would have been allowed more😷😁😁😁😁

Indeed

[Moulin Yarns]

Bet Hearts would have been allowed more😷😁😁😁😁

I'm sure I saw somewhere that 2,000 is at the first Hearts home game, so I doubt it.

[JXM73]

Still loads left, got one only two seats away from my ST... i blame the moaning on here as peer pressure....

[Iggy Pope]

Still loads left, got one only two seats away from my ST... i blame the moaning on here as peer pressure....

Hibbies have no peers.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Yes, 26 quid is disappointing for a kickaboot game, given the support fans have given the club over the past couple of years. It's rather tone deaf from the club.

[3pm]

Just done it.

Thought £26 was expensive yesterday but when it has come to it, delighted to be able to get to go. Overpriced by a fiver or tenner but I am fortunate that I can afford that so looking forward to it.

[erin go bragh]

Well after my rant yesterday 🙄 I’ve got myself and the grandsons a ticket ,, £42 and we get to see all they superstar’s playing in green 😁
Had stopped going to friendlies but with no being at a game in donkeys ,we will be there on Tuesday.

[Keith_M]

Looks like the 2,000 limit isn't as much of an issue as I thought.

[Aldo]

Wembley is full this evening


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[Jones28]

Italy will pump either of these two.

[Chorley Hibee]

Italy will pump either of these two.

I wouldn't fancy Hibs or Arsenal against Italy either. 😉

[Ringothedog]

I'm sure I saw somewhere that 2,000 is at the first Hearts home game, so I doubt it.

Why is only 10% allowed when 25% could go to Murrayfield. There is no fairness in the decision

[B.H.F.C]

Why is only 10% allowed when 25% could go to Murrayfield. There is no fairness in the decision

Murrayfield had a higher percentage but don’t think it was as much as that. Sure it was 16,000 they got in, holds 67,000. Even if it’s just a few percent of a difference, there is still a valid question as to why.

[Sir David Gray]

Murrayfield had a higher percentage but don’t think it was as much as that. Sure it was 16,000 they got in, holds 67,000. Even if it’s just a few percent of a difference, there is still a valid question as to why.

16,500 in a 67,000 seater stadium so that's like 24%.

[B.H.F.C]

16,500 in a 67,000 seater stadium so that's like 24%.

Aye so it is. No sure what I was thinking about there.

[Moulin Yarns]

Why is only 10% allowed when 25% could go to Murrayfield. There is no fairness in the decision

https://www.scottishrugby.org/news/bt-murrayfield-to-host-16,000-fans-for-lions-fixture-with-japan

International event with all agency agreements.

[overdrive]

The covid rules Hibs have posted states there are a series of arrival slots. Any idea if that’s in force next week and, if so, how do you know what slot you are in?

[marinello59]

https://www.scottishrugby.org/news/bt-murrayfield-to-host-16,000-fans-for-lions-fixture-with-japan

International event with all agency agreements.

So the question still stands, where is the fairness?

[Moulin Yarns]

So the question still stands, where is the fairness?

I think the difference between the two is one was an international game while the other is a pre season friendly.

One involves all the emergency services and health board the other will have st Andrews ambulance volunteers.

Fairness is subjective.

Purely my opinion. You need to ask the decision makers if you want a better answer.

[marinello59]

I think the difference between the two is one was an international game while the other is a pre season friendly.

One involves all the emergency services and health board the other will have st Andrews ambulance volunteers.

Fairness is subjective.

Purely my opinion. You need to ask the decision makers if you want a better answer.

Surely the answer is one is a rugby game and the other is a football game? :greengrin

[3pm]

I rushed to buy my tickets so not paying attention, I assume access is added to your Season Ticket?

[Ringothedog]

I think the difference between the two is one was an international game while the other is a pre season friendly.

One involves all the emergency services and health board the other will have st Andrews ambulance volunteers.

Fairness is subjective.

Purely my opinion. You need to ask the decision makers if you want a better answer.

Which I have, as their decision is nonsense

[Ringothedog]

Surely the answer is one is a rugby game and the other is a football game? :greengrin

You may laugh, but it it probably nearer to the truth than you think

[Callum_62]

Surley the percentage of capacity is only true if the holder of the game wanted every stand open

That's a question that seems to be unanswered


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[Ringothedog]

Surley the percentage of capacity is only true if the holder of the game wanted every stand open

That's a question that seems to be unanswered


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Hibs asked for 6k and where told no, the council as usual have shafted us. No change there.

[Pretty Boy]

Is it right the Scottish Open golf only has 5000 in attendance?

I get that travelling there and the like has to be taken into consideration but for an event that is largely outdoors that seems unnecessarily restrictive.

Tbh I've given up trying to work out how these decisions are made now.

[Scouse Hibee]

I rushed to buy my tickets so not paying attention, I assume access is added to your Season Ticket?

No mate, either print at home or download digital version to your phone that was attached to confirmation email.

[Stuart93]

See there’s still tickets left for this. Would appear people aren’t as desperate to pay £26 a ticket as some suggested they would be

[tamig]

See there’s still tickets left for this. Would appear people aren’t as desperate to pay £26 a ticket as some suggested they would be

How many are left? I’m sure they’ll go before Tuesday no probs.

[CentreLine]

See there’s still tickets left for this. Would appear people aren’t as desperate to pay £26 a ticket as some suggested they would be

Written as quoted but reads as “told you so” 🤣

[Stuart93]

Written as quoted but reads as “told you so” 🤣

Na not necessarily as they will probably still sell out before the game but don’t think there’s been the rush for them that was anticipated

[3pm]

No mate, either print at home or download digital version to your phone that was attached to confirmation email.

Thanks mate. The emails arrived this morning.

[hibbysam]

Is it right the Scottish Open golf only has 5000 in attendance?

I get that travelling there and the like has to be taken into consideration but for an event that is largely outdoors that seems unnecessarily restrictive.

Tbh I've given up trying to work out how these decisions are made now.

4000 per day. An absolute sham!

[Brightside]

Na not necessarily as they will probably still sell out before the game but don’t think there’s been the rush for them that was anticipated

a lot of singles. the covid split puts a lot of big groups off. Saying that i managed to get 5 in the same area.

[marinello59]

4000 per day. An absolute sham!

The British Superbikes this weekend at Knockhill is restricted to 1000 per day. Given the size of the circuit I see no logic in that at all.

[DIXIHIBS]

The British Superbikes this weekend at Knockhill is restricted to 1000 per day. Given the size of the circuit I see no logic in that at all.
Been to knockhill many times for the bikes and the veiwing area must be well over a mile long right round circuit. Crazy restriction.

[Chorley Hibee]

Motherwell now advertising that they are allowed 2000 attendees at their Premier Sport Cup ties, yet their capacity is only 13,500.

[Stuart93]

Motherwell now advertising that they are allowed 2000 attendees at their Premier Sport Cup ties, yet their capacity is only 13,500.

There’s absolutely no basis anymore.

[Moulin Yarns]

There’s absolutely no basis anymore.

Yes there is. The Scottish Government guidelines.



https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-calculating-physical-distancing-capacity-in-public-settings/pages/events/


Right at the bottom of the page.

[Stuart93]

Yes there is. The Scottish Government guidelines.




https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-calculating-physical-distancing-capacity-in-public-settings/pages/events/

Right at the bottom of the page.

Surely it depends on the size of the stadium?

How many were at Murrayfield the other week and how does it compare % wise to how much we’re getting into ER?

Sure I seen it was a higher % of spectators allowed into that than into ER.

Regardless, if you have a 13.5k seater stadium and a 20k seater stadium, it makes no sense to allow the same amount into both.

Just checked...Murrayfield was allowed 25% of its capacity in the ground whereas we’re only allowed 10%...how does that make sense? It’s all relative, if Murrayfield was allowed to accommodate 25% of its capacity so should we

[Moulin Yarns]

Surely it depends on the size of the stadium?

How many were at Murrayfield the other week and how does it compare % wise to how much we’re getting into ER?

Sure I seen it was a higher % of spectators allowed into that than into ER.

Regardless, if you have a 13.5k seater stadium and a 20k seater stadium, it makes no sense to allow the same amount into both.

I'm sure someone will be along soon to explain it. But as I understand it, in level 0 all stadia can have up to 2,000 provided 2m distancing is managed. Clubs can ask for more, either from the local authority or the Scottish Government, depending on the number requested.


Regarding Murrayfield, they will have worked closely with the government, health professionals and the emergency services to allow the crowd to be higher for an international rugby match. I presume hibs have not been able to convince the authorities that they will be able to provide satisfactory safety measures.

[Stuart93]

I'm sure someone will be along soon to explain it. But as I understand it, in level 0 all stadia can have up to 2,000 provided 2m distancing is managed. Clubs can ask for more, either from the local authority or the Scottish Government, depending on the number requested.

And we did ask for more but it was thrown back at us and we were told we’re only allowed the minimum, so I’ll go back to my original point, what are they basing it on now where they’re allowing a higher % of spectators at one stadium in the same city yet not at the other

[AugustaHibs]

Yes there is. The Scottish Government guidelines.




https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-calculating-physical-distancing-capacity-in-public-settings/pages/events/

Right at the bottom of the page.


When you see the way they are implemented gives the feeling there’s no basis and they’re just rolling a dice

[WhileTheChief..]

Football fans are 14x more likely to transmit the delta variant than rugby fans.

Common knowledge by now I’d have thought.

[Moulin Yarns]

And we did ask for more but it was thrown back at us and we were told we’re only allowed the minimum, so I’ll go back to my original point, what are they basing it on now where they’re allowing a higher % of spectators at one stadium in the same city yet not at the other

See my additions to the reply.

[Ringothedog]

See my additions to the reply.

But you don’t know, you are just guessing

[Moulin Yarns]

But you don’t know, you are just guessing

No, I actually read the release from Murrayfield. 😁


I even put it up here earlier 😉

[BlackSheep]

I rushed to buy my tickets so not paying attention, I assume access is added to your Season Ticket?

Nope, they’re print at home/digital tickets… you’ll get an email with links to download the digital ticket or the pdf to print.

[Stuart93]

See my additions to the reply.

I get what you’re saying, just find it difficult that fans of a certain sport seem to be treated differently from others

[davhibby]

I bet the club are glad they never got 6k allowed after all, would have been a bit of an embarrassment for them

[Scouse Hibee]

I bet the club are glad they never got 6k allowed after all, would have been a bit of an embarrassment for them

Maybe 6k would have kept the price down.

[Sir David Gray]

I'm sure someone will be along soon to explain it. But as I understand it, in level 0 all stadia can have up to 2,000 provided 2m distancing is managed. Clubs can ask for more, either from the local authority or the Scottish Government, depending on the number requested.


Regarding Murrayfield, they will have worked closely with the government, health professionals and the emergency services to allow the crowd to be higher for an international rugby match. I presume hibs have not been able to convince the authorities that they will be able to provide satisfactory safety measures.

If that's the case then the club should be asked serious questions about why they could not convince the authorities that they could provide satisfactory safety measures for 6,000 people to be in Easter Road.

[Moulin Yarns]

If that's the case then the club should be asked serious questions about why they could not convince the authorities that they could provide satisfactory safety measures for 6,000 people to be in Easter Road.

Thank goodness for some sense at last. All the conspiracy theories about football being treated differently to rugby is just daft. The Murrayfield statement said that it was possible due to a multi agency team being in place. If hibs, or any other club can do the same then I would expect larger crowds to have been allowed. Also the fans were calling for the Scottish Cup final to be at Murrayfield as it was seen as a safer environment, open approach, wide open spaces, no pinch points.

I don't know what the club needs to do, but maybe ask Murrayfield what they did to get a larger crowd.


For those who maybe missed it the first time round, or didn't bother to read it, here is the information about the reasons for the larger crowd at the rugby International.


https://www.scottishrugby.org/news/bt-murrayfield-to-host-16,000-fans-for-lions-fixture-with-japan

[Stuart93]

Thank goodness for some sense at last. All the conspiracy theories about football being treated differently to rugby is just daft. The Murrayfield statement said that it was possible due to a multi agency team being in place. If hibs, or any other club can do the same then I would expect larger crowds to have been allowed. Also the fans were calling for the Scottish Cup final to be at Murrayfield as it was seen as a safer environment, open approach, wide open spaces, no pinch points.

I don't know what the club needs to do, but maybe ask Murrayfield what they did to get a larger crowd.


For those who maybe missed it the first time round, or didn't bother to read it, here is the information about the reasons for the larger crowd at the rugby International.


https://www.scottishrugby.org/news/bt-murrayfield-to-host-16,000-fans-for-lions-fixture-with-japan

Aye but who’s to say hibs didn’t have these safety measures in place?

How do you know it’s “some sense at last” when you have absolutely no idea what safety measures hibs made sure were in place?

[Moulin Yarns]

Aye but who’s to say hibs didn’t have these safety measures in place?

Feel free to provide the evidence 🙄

[Stuart93]

Feel free to provide the evidence 🙄

This is it, no-one knows but do you reckon hibs would’ve wasted their time applying for 5,000 into ER if they didn’t make sure the appropriate safety measures were in place?

Very much doubt it

[WhileTheChief..]

Thank goodness for some sense at last. All the conspiracy theories about football being treated differently to rugby is just daft. The Murrayfield statement said that it was possible due to a multi agency team being in place. If hibs, or any other club can do the same then I would expect larger crowds to have been allowed. Also the fans were calling for the Scottish Cup final to be at Murrayfield as it was seen as a safer environment, open approach, wide open spaces, no pinch points.

I don't know what the club needs to do, but maybe ask Murrayfield what they did to get a larger crowd.


For those who maybe missed it the first time round, or didn't bother to read it, here is the information about the reasons for the larger crowd at the rugby International.


https://www.scottishrugby.org/news/bt-murrayfield-to-host-16,000-fans-for-lions-fixture-with-japan

It's not daft at all, it's a logical conclusion to come to.

Who's got time to read small print in government official guidelines about anything ffs?? We're Joe Public, If they want us to understand something they should send a clear message.

I see a full or half full Murrayfield and an almost empty Easter Rd, of course I'm going to think the sports are being treated differently. It's cause they are.

[Billy Whizz]

Is there any catering likely to be available at the game?

[Moulin Yarns]

This is it, no-one knows but do you reckon hibs would’ve wasted their time applying for 5,000 into ER if they didn’t make sure the appropriate safety measures were in place?

Very much doubt it

Maybe they tried and failed. The fact remains, this is not the case of football being treated differently, as the crowds at the Euros proves.

[Moulin Yarns]

It's not daft at all, it's a logical conclusion to come to.

Who's got time to read small print in government official guidelines about anything ffs?? We're Joe Public, If they want us to understand something they should send a clear message.

I see a full or half full Murrayfield and an almost empty Easter Rd, of course I'm going to think the sports are being treated differently. It's cause they are.

🙄

[AugustaHibs]

Maybe they tried and failed. The fact remains, this is not the case of football being treated differently, as the crowds at the Euros proves.

Think alot of that was down to pressure form Uefa. The threat was no fans = no games in your country.

[GreenCastle]

Think alot of that was down to pressure form Uefa. The threat was no fans = no games in your country.

I think it’s England wanting the 2030 World Cup showing what a near full stadium is like.

Uefa obviously doesn’t want empty stadiums for its tournament either as the product looks rubbish.

This is also why these delegates have been invited over to Wembley for the semis and final.

[WhileTheChief..]

Lots of fans at rugby, hardly any fans at football. As can be proved by the recent crowds at Hampden.

How is that not different?!

[DH1875]

Rangers have somehow managed to get a friendly with Real Madrid at Ibrox. Apparently getting 25% in the ground for it.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.scottishrugby.org/news/bt-murrayfield-to-host-16,000-fans-for-lions-fixture-with-japan

Look, rugby and football treated the same way. It says so, but apparently nobody can read.

[calumhibee1]

https://www.scottishrugby.org/news/bt-murrayfield-to-host-16,000-fans-for-lions-fixture-with-japan

Look, rugby and football treated the same way. It says so, but apparently nobody can read.

Not the football next week though. When there’s no bigwigs from all the other European countries to be catered for then the football fans will just go back to being shafted.

[Moulin Yarns]

For those that appear to be averse to clicking a link to Scottish Rugby. :greengrin


Through the positive working relationship, we have developed with both Scottish Government and key local partners we are confident we will offer a safe environment for every supporter and look forward to playing our part in hosting this unique sporting occasion and welcoming rugby fans back to Edinburgh.

I’d like to thank everyone at Scottish Rugby who has contributed to enabling a live crowd to enjoy this match at BT Murrayfield and have no doubt it will be a special day for all involved.


As a flagship event of international significance, this match has been carefully considered by the Scottish Government.

The stadium capacity has been agreed, following public health advice, in principle by Ministers but will be kept under review, with all partners continuing to monitor the status of the pandemic in the run up to the match to ensure fans can attend safely. This is the same process used to set the capacity for the Euros at Hampden and for other internationally significant events during the summer.


While all those in the stadium should of course enjoy the game, they should do so safely – the virus is still out there. Free, fast and regular testing for people who do not have COVID-19 symptoms is available to everyone in Scotland – please take up that offer and do not attend if the result is positive or you have any symptoms whatsoever.


Stick to your allocated arrival and departure time, follow physical distancing rules and wear a mask at all times, other than when you’re eating or drinking. By following these rules, you will help us beat this virus and ensure many more people can enjoy the thrill of live events in future.”



Who did Hibs ask for the 6,000? The Scottish Government or Edinburgh City Council? Answer, the cooncil.


The Club had pushed hard to admit around 6000 supporters with thorough protocols in place to ensure spectator safety worked through with the local authority, but Scottish Government guidance won’t allow for these numbers.

So the cooncil stuck to the government guidance. It 'might' have been different if Hibs had gone direct to the government.

Hopefully this will put to an end the unfounded belief that the government favoured rugger over soccer :wink:

[Stuart93]

For those that appear to be averse to clicking a link to Scottish Rugby. :greengrin





Who did Hibs ask for the 6,000? The Scottish Government or Edinburgh City Council? Answer, the cooncil.



So the cooncil stuck to the government guidance. It 'might' have been different if Hibs had gone direct to the government.

Hopefully this will put to an end the unfounded belief that the government favoured rugger over soccer :wink:

The guidelines state that any club etc who wish to apply for more than the minimum amount should go to their local council for their area. Hibs done what they were told but because they didn’t go directly to the SG they weren’t granted more than 2,000? Who do you think the council would’ve went to for authorisation on it? Do you think the Govt had 0 input in it?

FWIW it shouldn’t matter what the occasion is or if it’s another sporting event on another level i.e international level, it should remain constant on every level.

[Moulin Yarns]

The guidelines state that any club etc who wish to apply for more than the minimum amount should go to their local council for their area. Hibs done what they were told but because they didn’t go directly to the SG they weren’t granted more than 2,000? Who do you think the council would’ve went to for authorisation on it? Do you think the Govt had 0 input in it?

FWIW it shouldn’t matter what the occasion is or if it’s another sporting event on another level i.e international level, it should remain constant on every level.

The start of Hibs statement explains everything for you.


Hibernian FC this afternoon announced that the Club today received confirmation from the City of Edinburgh Council that capacity for our friendly match against Arsenal on July (13) will be limited to 2000 home fans only due to national public health guidance.

The Club had pushed hard to admit around 6000 supporters with thorough protocols in place to ensure spectator safety worked through with the local authority, but Scottish Government guidance won’t allow for these numbers.



If anyone has a gripe about the crowd limit (not that it appears to be a problem :greengrin) then it is with the council, who appear to have adhered to government guidlines, or Hibs who could have gone over the heads of CEC and gon to the government. (The last bit, I don't know if there is a protocol for that :wink:)

[Moulin Yarns]

Rangers have somehow managed to get a friendly with Real Madrid at Ibrox. Apparently getting 25% in the ground for it.

Nowhere has anything been said about the crowd allowed for it.

[Stuart93]

The start of Hibs statement explains everything for you.



If anyone has a gripe about the crowd limit (not that it appears to be a problem :greengrin) then it is with the council, who appear to have adhered to government guidlines, or Hibs who could have gone over the heads of CEC and gon to the government. (The last bit, I don't know if there is a protocol for that :wink:)

My argument wasn’t whether it was the Govt or Council who made the decision. My argument was the decision that was made whether it be from the SG or council to allow Murrayfield to have 25% capacity and us to only be allowed 10%. If the government guidelines state only 2000 spectators for the level Edinburgh’s in, then their should’ve only been 2000 in Murrayfield. Guidelines should be the same for every club/“establishment”

It’s clear it isn’t being worked out on the capacity the stadia holds

[Moulin Yarns]

It might be worth reading this if you are going to Easter Road this season.






https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/2021-22-Spectator-Code-of-Conduct.pdf (https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/2021-22-Spectator-Code-of-Conduct.pdf)


One thing jumped out at me, and I understand why. Upper stand kiosk won't be open. Probably not enough space in the concourse.

[Stuart93]

It might be worth reading this if you are going to Easter Road this season.






https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/2021-22-Spectator-Code-of-Conduct.pdf (https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/2021-22-Spectator-Code-of-Conduct.pdf)


One thing jumped out at me, and I understand why. Upper stand kiosk won't be open. Probably not enough space in the concourse.

Na you’re alright. If we score I’ll still be shouting and jumping about like an absolute fanny whether that be on my own or otherwise

[Moulin Yarns]

My argument wasn’t whether it was the Govt or Council who made the decision. My argument was the decision that was made whether it be from the SG or council to allow Murrayfield to have 25% capacity and us to only be allowed 10%. If the government guidelines state only 2000 spectators for the level Edinburgh’s in, then their should’ve only been 2000 in Murrayfield. Guidelines should be the same for every club/“establishment”

It’s clear it isn’t being worked out on the capacity the stadia holds

You ar right about one thing. :greengrin That has absolutely nothing to do with it. As I said before, Murrayfield and Easter Road are very different stadia. It is a lot easier to get people into and out of Murrayfield taking into account of the social distancing etc.

I'm going to stop trying to explain the different reasons because I've go better things to do with my time. Why don't you ask your MP, MSP, Councillors to take it up at a higher level?

[calumhibee1]

The start of Hibs statement explains everything for you.



If anyone has a gripe about the crowd limit (not that it appears to be a problem :greengrin) then it is with the council, who appear to have adhered to government guidlines, or Hibs who could have gone over the heads of CEC and gon to the government. (The last bit, I don't know if there is a protocol for that :wink:)

Maybe Hibs did go to the ScotGov, were told no and then went to the Council to get something within their remit - say 5k.

In reality, as much as you want to make out like you’ve got it all worked out, none of us know how Hibs approached this. I’ve got a feeling we’ve clever enough staff at the club though that they didn’t approach the wrong folk with their request as you seem to be suggesting they did. I’d also suspect we were more than capable of putting all safety measures in place to get the 7.5k we wanted in the stadium.

If we did approach the council when it should have been the ScotGov though then somebody had cost the club tens of thousands and will probably be out on their arse.

[Stuart93]

You ar right about one thing. :greengrin That has absolutely nothing to do with it. As I said before, Murrayfield and Easter Road are very different stadia. It is a lot easier to get people into and out of Murrayfield taking into account of the social distancing etc.

I'm going to stop trying to explain the different reasons because I've go better things to do with my time. Why don't you ask your MP, MSP, Councillors to take it up at a higher level?

So you’ve got better things to do now despite copying and pasting a link to the spectators rule book in your previous post?

Fair enough mate.

[jacomo]

For those that appear to be averse to clicking a link to Scottish Rugby. :greengrin





Who did Hibs ask for the 6,000? The Scottish Government or Edinburgh City Council? Answer, the cooncil.



So the cooncil stuck to the government guidance. It 'might' have been different if Hibs had gone direct to the government.

Hopefully this will put to an end the unfounded belief that the government favoured rugger over soccer :wink:


Thanks I read the link you shared.

For me you highlighted the wrong bit though. As far as I can tell, the most significant quote is Jason Leitch describing the rugby match as ‘a flagship event of international significance’.

Because of this, they’ve made extra effort to allow more fans. The government and council deem our match as having less significance, so they haven’t made the same efforts to increase capacity.

I am confident Hibs will have committed to all necessary measures to allow more than 2,000 fans.

[Moulin Yarns]

So you’ve got better things to do now despite copying and pasting a link to the spectators rule book in your previous post?

Fair enough mate.

What is that supposed to mean?

[Moulin Yarns]

Thanks I read the link you shared.

For me you highlighted the wrong bit though. As far as I can tell, the most significant quote is Jason Leitch describing the rugby match as ‘a flagship event of international significance’.

Because of this, they’ve made extra effort to allow more fans. The government and council deem our match as having less significance, so they haven’t made the same efforts to increase capacity.

I am confident Hibs will have committed to all necessary measures to allow more than 2,000 fans.

Thank goodness. Yes, international games, football and rugby, are more important than a pre season friendly!!!

[calumhibee1]

Thank goodness. Yes, international games, football and rugby, are more important than a pre season friendly!!!

It doesn’t really matter how important the game is :confused:

All that matters is whether it’s safe or not to be played with X amount of fans. That doesn’t changed based on the importance of the game.

[Moulin Yarns]

Maybe Hibs did go to the ScotGov, were told no and then went to the Council to get something within their remit - say 5k.

In reality, as much as you want to make out like you’ve got it all worked out, none of us know how Hibs approached this. I’ve got a feeling we’ve clever enough staff at the club though that they didn’t approach the wrong folk with their request as you seem to be suggesting they did. I’d also suspect we were more than capable of putting all safety measures in place to get the 7.5k we wanted in the stadium.

If we did approach the council when it should have been the ScotGov though then somebody had cost the club tens of thousands and will probably be out on their arse.

Everything I have said is in the public domain.

[Moulin Yarns]

It doesn’t really matter how important the game is :confused:

All that matters is whether it’s safe or not to be played with X amount of fans. That doesn’t changed based on the importance of the game.


You know what. We are going round in circles. I don't even know what the issue is, there are still tickets available!!!!!

[marinello59]

You know what. We are going round in circles. I don't even know what the issue is, there are still tickets available!!!!!

And no wonder at that price. 2000 tickets for our first game back and we can’t sell them. Hope the club takes note. They will all go before match day but there’s a warning to the club there not to take us for granted.

[staunchhibby]

Is there tickets left

[Sir David Gray]

And no wonder at that price. 2000 tickets for our first game back and we can’t sell them. Hope the club takes note. They will all go before match day but there’s a warning to the club there not to take us for granted.

I'm actually glad in a way that we're struggling to sell our full allocation.

If it had been reasonably priced the 2,000 tickets would have sold out in minutes.

[Ringothedog]

Is there tickets left

There are about 90 tickets left and they are mostly single seats

[Moulin Yarns]

Is there any catering likely to be available at the game?

I knew I'd seen this question. Upper tiers kiosks are closed according to hibs information. I presume because of lack of circulation space.

[Glory Lurker]

I don't pay any attention to teams that aren't Hibs, let alone the EPL. Who are Arsenal likely to be sending up? Are those Henry, Pires, Bergkamp, Vieira French dudes still on the books?

[Joe Baker II]

Given SNP administration general hostile attitude toward football supporters since they were elected, regardless of the circumstances of this particular case and difference between "flagship events" or other events, strongly suspect had Hibs approached them, answer would have been a pretty abrupt no while a rugby union application would have been given more favourable treatment; club statement vaguely hints this would have been the case had they taken it further.

So without knowing full story, seems pretty hard to blame Hibs here though is unfortunate given £26/£16 for a home friendly will put a lot of people off (I am still undecided btw), even for first home game for a long time.

[Ringothedog]

Given SNP administration general hostile attitude toward football supporters since they were elected, regardless of the circumstances of this particular case and difference between "flagship events" or other events, strongly suspect had Hibs approached them, answer would have been a pretty abrupt no while a rugby union application would have been given more favourable treatment; club statement vaguely hints this would have been the case had they taken it further.

So without knowing full story, seems pretty hard to blame Hibs here though is unfortunate given £26/£16 for a home friendly will put a lot of people off (I am still undecided btw), even for first home game for a long time.

What a load of keek, you admit to not knowing the full story and write that garbage. Keep your political ramblings to yourself in particular when they are just not true

[matty_f]

Given SNP administration general hostile attitude toward football supporters since they were elected, regardless of the circumstances of this particular case and difference between "flagship events" or other events, strongly suspect had Hibs approached them, answer would have been a pretty abrupt no while a rugby union application would have been given more favourable treatment; club statement vaguely hints this would have been the case had they taken it further.

So without knowing full story, seems pretty hard to blame Hibs here though is unfortunate given £26/£16 for a home friendly will put a lot of people off (I am still undecided btw), even for first home game for a long time.

Because of the COVID regulations and the limited capacity, it’s costing Hibs a lot to put the game on. There will be approx 150 stewards required for the event, plus deep cleaning for the two stands, which we have to open to comply with distancing.

The match would have gone ahead with no fans and Hibs would have relied on ppv revenue to cover costs.

I was very critical of the £26, and while i still think it’s too much, having had a chat with someone from Hibs, they were caught between a rock and a hard place with it after the goalposts were moved with regards to attendance.

For reference, Rangers have also been capped at 2k fans, they applied for 12k for their friendly at the weekend.

[jacomo]

What a load of keek, you admit to not knowing the full story and write that garbage. Keep your political ramblings to yourself in particular when they are just not true


I think there’s something in that.

Unless you are one of those who believe the SNP must never be criticised ever.

[Ringothedog]

I think there’s something in that.

Unless you are one of those who believe the SNP must never be criticised ever.

In what exactly? If you can give me the facts of the SNP being anti football and where and when they were involved with the attendance decision. I am sure you have that to hand.
My political views are irrelevant, I will criticise any party when they deserve it. I have contacted and criticised my MSP, MP and councillors recently. I am waiting on my councillor replying with the reasons for the 2000 limit which I will share on here

[Peevemor]

Given SNP administration general hostile attitude toward football supporters since they were elected, regardless of the circumstances of this particular case and difference between "flagship events" or other events, strongly suspect had Hibs approached them, answer would have been a pretty abrupt no while a rugby union application would have been given more favourable treatment; club statement vaguely hints this would have been the case had they taken it further.

So without knowing full story, seems pretty hard to blame Hibs here though is unfortunate given £26/£16 for a home friendly will put a lot of people off (I am still undecided btw), even for first home game for a long time.

Given that a pre-season friendly isn't a flagship event, there's no mechanism for Hibs to contact the SNP (you probably mean the Scottish Government) re. how many supporters are to be permitted in the ground. It's Edinburgh Council who approve (or not) such events.

[Ringothedog]

Given that a pre-season friendly isn't a flagship event, there's no mechanism for Hibs to contact the SNP (you probably mean the Scottish Government) re. how many supporters are to be permitted in the ground. It's Edinburgh Council who approve (or not) such events.

Cheers for being a bit more concise than me

[Billy Whizz]

I knew I'd seen this question. Upper tiers kiosks are closed according to hibs information. I presume because of lack of circulation space.

What about the West lower?

[Moulin Yarns]

Given that a pre-season friendly isn't a flagship event, there's no mechanism for Hibs to contact the SNP (you probably mean the Scottish Government) re. how many supporters are to be permitted in the ground. It's Edinburgh Council who approve (or not) such events.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57778616

Judging from the above that hibs could have 500 at the arsenal game but the council has granted a crowd of 2,000.

[Moulin Yarns]

What about the West lower?

I think that's OK. The info is a PDF on the website.


https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/club-statement-hibernian-v-arsenal


Spectators code of conduct in the 3rd last paragraph.


It's the last bit under the heading Arrival.

[jacomo]

In what exactly? If you can give me the facts of the SNP being anti football and where and when they were involved with the attendance decision. I am sure you have that to hand.
My political views are irrelevant, I will criticise any party when they deserve it. I have contacted and criticised my MSP, MP and councillors recently. I am waiting on my councillor replying with the reasons for the 2000 limit which I will share on here


The 2011 Offensive Behaviour at Football Act was an amateurish and ineffective piece of legislation, aimed at being seen to be doing something about troublesome football fans rather than tackle the issue of sectarianism itself.

It was rightly scrapped, but betrayed an unhelpful and hostile attitude towards football supporters.

The restrictions placed on supporters for the cup final, and now this friendly, seem utterly perverse compared with other events. Why does a ‘flagship event’ get preferential status? Are people who attend more prestigious events less likely to spread covid?

All imo of course.

[lord bunberry]

Because of the COVID regulations and the limited capacity, it’s costing Hibs a lot to put the game on. There will be approx 150 stewards required for the event, plus deep cleaning for the two stands, which we have to open to comply with distancing.

The match would have gone ahead with no fans and Hibs would have relied on ppv revenue to cover costs.

I was very critical of the £26, and while i still think it’s too much, having had a chat with someone from Hibs, they were caught between a rock and a hard place with it after the goalposts were moved with regards to attendance.

For reference, Rangers have also been capped at 2k fans, they applied for 12k for their friendly at the weekend.
How much are hearts charging for their game with 2000 fans?

[hibbyfraelibby]

What about the West lower?

Think they are opening the exits like they normally do for the smokers so the carpark can be used, same with East

[Billy Whizz]

I think that's OK. The info is a PDF on the website.


https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/club-statement-hibernian-v-arsenal


Spectators code of conduct in the 3rd last paragraph.


It's the last bit under the heading Arrival.

Thanks
Notice we have to wear a face covering at the ground

https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/2021-22-Spectator-Code-of-Conduct.pdf

[CapitalGreen]

The 2011 Offensive Behaviour at Football Act was an amateurish and ineffective piece of legislation, aimed at being seen to be doing something about troublesome football fans rather than tackle the issue of sectarianism itself.

It was rightly scrapped, but betrayed an unhelpful and hostile attitude towards football supporters.

The restrictions placed on supporters for the cup final, and now this friendly, seem utterly perverse compared with other events. Why does a ‘flagship event’ get preferential status? Are people who attend more prestigious events less likely to spread covid?

All imo of course.

Flagship events are defined by the government as events that play a vital role in Scottish tourism by attracting people to Scotland and enhancing the country's international profile.

[jacomo]

Flagship events are defined by the government as events that play a vital role in Scottish tourism by attracting people to Scotland and enhancing the country's international profile.


So… cross-border covid fun then?

[calumhibee1]

Because of the COVID regulations and the limited capacity, it’s costing Hibs a lot to put the game on. There will be approx 150 stewards required for the event, plus deep cleaning for the two stands, which we have to open to comply with distancing.

The match would have gone ahead with no fans and Hibs would have relied on ppv revenue to cover costs.

I was very critical of the £26, and while i still think it’s too much, having had a chat with someone from Hibs, they were caught between a rock and a hard place with it after the goalposts were moved with regards to attendance.

For reference, Rangers have also been capped at 2k fans, they applied for 12k for their friendly at the weekend.

Who moved the goalposts?

[Just Alf]

The 2011 Offensive Behaviour at Football Act was an amateurish and ineffective piece of legislation, aimed at being seen to be doing something about troublesome football fans rather than tackle the issue of sectarianism itself.

It was rightly scrapped, but betrayed an unhelpful and hostile attitude towards football supporters.

The restrictions placed on supporters for the cup final, and now this friendly, seem utterly perverse compared with other events. Why does a ‘flagship event’ get preferential status? Are people who attend more prestigious events less likely to spread covid?

All imo of course.I broadly agree, but the cup final 600 has been used a lot and that was totally down to the SFA only being given a section or two so the 600 was an equivalent % as was being used elsewhere at the time so is a shot fired at the wrong folks.


Also, just to add, realised you might be meaning no one could attend at all and if that's the case I agree with all of it.

[Oscar T Grouch]

It might be worth reading this if you are going to Easter Road this season.






https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/2021-22-Spectator-Code-of-Conduct.pdf (https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/2021-22-Spectator-Code-of-Conduct.pdf)


One thing jumped out at me, and I understand why. Upper stand kiosk won't be open. Probably not enough space in the concourse.

The thing that jumped out at me prevents me from going to Easter Road at all. It says that you have to take a photo ID with you to ensure entry. I don't have photo ID since my last passport ran out and I don't drive.

[Sir David Gray]

2,000 fans allowed at Parkhead for their friendly with Preston - just over 3% of capacity, thought we were bad!

Season ticket holders who are successful in the ballot are getting access to this game included with their season ticket.

https://www.celticfc.com/news/2021/july/Preston-North-End-ballot-information-for-2-000-fans-at-Celtic-Park/

[bod]

Take your passport .doesn’t have to be valid

[WhileTheChief..]

Who moved the goalposts?

I'd guess no-one.

We put the game on hoping we'd get 6000 then got told 2000 max due to government guidance. Nothing to do with the council at all.

Too late to back out so gotta hike the ticket price to cover the costs.

[matty_f]

How much are hearts charging for their game with 2000 fans?

I don’t know. I haven’t looked at what their set up is for it etc.

[Sir David Gray]

How much are hearts charging for their game with 2000 fans?

£10 for adults, £5 for concessions.

[matty_f]

Who moved the goalposts?

At the time Hibs applied for 5600 fans, the rules were 500 no questions asked, to to 5k needed local authority approval, and above 5k needed local authority and government approval.

While the application was under consideration, the Joint Response Group communicated to clubs that the cap on attendances on all games up too and including 19th July was to be set at 2000, a change from the original guidance.

Celtic have also just announced that their friendly will be restricted to 2000 supporters. (I think they’re balloting season ticket holders who will get the game free).


Our costs for the game are roughly in line with what we’d have to cover for an Old Firm game.

[Ringothedog]

This is the reply from the council-

I have been asked to reply to your email asking about the decision to agree a crowd capacity of 2000 at the forthcoming Hibs v Arsenal match.

At present the City of Edinburgh remains in Level 2 of the restrictions as set out in the emergency public health legislation. As such the guidance which the council has to operate under would normally set a limit of 500 for a crowd in a stadium.

After taking steps to ensure the proposed increase in spectators was safe and working with the club the Council has used the powers available to it to allow an increase of that capacity to 2000.This is the maximum number of spectators the Council has the power to allow under the current regulations.

The British Lions match at Murrayfield was designated an internationally significant flagship event under the Scottish Government Events Gateway Process and was dealt with separately. The Scottish Government decided to allow an increased capacity for that event, in part to test safety measures which would allow other events and stadia to return higher capacities when restrictions ease. A similar decision was made concerning the Euro football matches at Hampden Stadium in Glasgow earlier this month.

The Council’s priority remains keeping people safe and protecting public health. As restrictions and guidance change the Council will continue to work with clubs to ensure that normal activity can resume in as safe as possible manner.

[Callum_62]

All I see there is Sturgeon hates fitbaw.

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[lord bunberry]

£10 for adults, £5 for concessions.


I don’t know. I haven’t looked at what their set up is for it etc.
Surely hearts have to follow the same guidance as we do? And it must therefore be costing them the same amount to host the game. They will also have to pay half the money from ticket sales to the away team. This has gone down extremely badly and if there was a good reason for the price of a ticket I’m sure the club would’ve come out and said so in order to set the record straight. It’s increasingly looking like it’s just been a bad decision to me.

[Peevemor]

Surely hearts have to follow the same guidance as we do? And it must therefore be costing them the same amount to host the game. They will also have to pay half the money from ticket sales to the away team. This has gone down extremely badly and if there was a good reason for the price of a ticket I’m sure the club would’ve come out and said so in order to set the record straight. It’s increasingly looking like it’s just been a bad decision to me.What if Hibs have agreed a fixed fee with Arsenal?

[Stuart93]

This is the reply from the council-

I have been asked to reply to your email asking about the decision to agree a crowd capacity of 2000 at the forthcoming Hibs v Arsenal match.

At present the City of Edinburgh remains in Level 2 of the restrictions as set out in the emergency public health legislation. As such the guidance which the council has to operate under would normally set a limit of 500 for a crowd in a stadium.

After taking steps to ensure the proposed increase in spectators was safe and working with the club the Council has used the powers available to it to allow an increase of that capacity to 2000.This is the maximum number of spectators the Council has the power to allow under the current regulations.

The British Lions match at Murrayfield was designated an internationally significant flagship event under the Scottish Government Events Gateway Process and was dealt with separately. The Scottish Government decided to allow an increased capacity for that event, in part to test safety measures which would allow other events and stadia to return higher capacities when restrictions ease. A similar decision was made concerning the Euro football matches at Hampden Stadium in Glasgow earlier this month.

The Council’s priority remains keeping people safe and protecting public health. As restrictions and guidance change the Council will continue to work with clubs to ensure that normal activity can resume in as safe as possible manner.

A load of absolute ****ing nonsense

“ in part to test safety measures which would allow other events and stadia”

Why not test it at a stadium that is going to be used more frequently/roughly every couple of weeks as oppose to how little Murrayfield is used/attended on the regular.

[EI255]

And no wonder at that price. 2000 tickets for our first game back and we can’t sell them. Hope the club takes note. They will all go before match day but there’s a warning to the club there not to take us for granted.After everything that's happened in the last 18 months or so, the money the club has hemorrhaged, is it really a surprise the club are trying to make a little killing when one of England's top guns comes to town?

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[lord bunberry]

What if Hibs have agreed a fixed fee with Arsenal?
I’m not buying that. Why would we have to pay a fee to arsenal to play a friendly?

[Sir David Gray]

Surely hearts have to follow the same guidance as we do? And it must therefore be costing them the same amount to host the game. They will also have to pay half the money from ticket sales to the away team. This has gone down extremely badly and if there was a good reason for the price of a ticket I’m sure the club would’ve come out and said so in order to set the record straight. It’s increasingly looking like it’s just been a bad decision to me.

Agreed, a couple of days on and I still feel quite angry and disappointed about it to be honest.

[JohnM1875]

What if Hibs have agreed a fixed fee with Arsenal?

Then that's absolutely moronic when there was a high possibility it would be behind closed doors when it was announced.

[lord bunberry]

Agreed, a couple of days on and I still feel quite angry and disappointed about it to be honest.
I’m not a fan of pre season friendlies so I’d probably have given it a miss anyway, but it does still annoy me that they’re charging that much after the fans have put so much in during the last year and a half.

[Peevemor]

Then that's absolutely moronic when there was a high possibility it would be behind closed doors when it was announced.As Matty posted earlier...

"The match would have gone ahead with no fans and Hibs would have relied on ppv revenue to cover costs.

I was very critical of the £26, and while i still think it’s too much, having had a chat with someone from Hibs, they were caught between a rock and a hard place with it after the goalposts were moved with regards to attendance. "

[Centre Hawf]

I’m not buying that. Why would we have to pay a fee to arsenal to play a friendly?

I think it's fairly common for it to cost to bring a big team over for a friendly. That being said if we have gone ahead and paid Arsenal a large fee that has required the ticket price to be so extortionate then I'm not sure why we thought it was a good idea to organise such a friendly while fans are still barely allowed in. All the benefits of hosting such a friendly seem to be gone under current circumstances.

[Danderhall Hibs]

£10 for adults, £5 for concessions.

They’ve got loads more money than us obviously.

[lord bunberry]

I think it's fairly common for it to cost to bring a big team over for a friendly. That being said if we have gone ahead and paid Arsenal a large fee that has required the ticket price to be so extortionate then I'm not sure why we thought it was a good idea to organise such a friendly while fans are still barely allowed in. All the benefits of hosting such a friendly seem to be gone under current circumstances.
Arsenal are already up here for a training camp and are playing the huns as well while they’re here.

[lord bunberry]

As Matty posted earlier...

"The match would have gone ahead with no fans and Hibs would have relied on ppv revenue to cover costs.

I was very critical of the £26, and while i still think it’s too much, having had a chat with someone from Hibs, they were caught between a rock and a hard place with it after the goalposts were moved with regards to attendance. "
Surely they can still sell ppv to increase revenue.

[Peevemor]

Arsenal are already up here for a training camp and are playing the huns as well while they’re here.That doesn't mean that they're playing for free.

[lord bunberry]

That doesn't mean that they're playing for free.
It doesn’t and obviously I don’t know if they’re charging us to play them, but nothing I’ve seen or heard justifies that ticket price. If indeed we were confident off being able to cover costs by selling the game as ppv, then why can’t we still do that and charge £15 for a ticket and £10 for ppv? As I said earlier I wouldn’t have gone whatever the price was, but it has caused a fair amount of fans to be pissed off, if there’s a legitimate reason for the price then the club should make it known and we can all stop speculating.

[JohnM1875]

Surely they can still sell ppv to increase revenue.

Just announced you can watch on PPV

[AugustaHibs]

8 quid on ppv

[Moulin Yarns]

Yesterday afternoon, before everybody piled on


I'm sure someone will be along soon to explain it. But as I understand it, in level 0 all stadia can have up to 2,000 provided 2m distancing is managed. Clubs can ask for more, either from the local authority or the Scottish Government, depending on the number requested.


Regarding Murrayfield, they will have worked closely with the government, health professionals and the emergency services to allow the crowd to be higher for an international rugby match. I presume hibs have not been able to convince the authorities that they will be able to provide satisfactory safety measures.

Confirmation, thank you Ringo. :greengrin


This is the reply from the council-

I have been asked to reply to your email asking about the decision to agree a crowd capacity of 2000 at the forthcoming Hibs v Arsenal match.

At present the City of Edinburgh remains in Level 2 of the restrictions as set out in the emergency public health legislation. As such the guidance which the council has to operate under would normally set a limit of 500 for a crowd in a stadium.

After taking steps to ensure the proposed increase in spectators was safe and working with the club the Council has used the powers available to it to allow an increase of that capacity to 2000.This is the maximum number of spectators the Council has the power to allow under the current regulations.

The British Lions match at Murrayfield was designated an internationally significant flagship event under the Scottish Government Events Gateway Process and was dealt with separately. The Scottish Government decided to allow an increased capacity for that event, in part to test safety measures which would allow other events and stadia to return higher capacities when restrictions ease. A similar decision was made concerning the Euro football matches at Hampden Stadium in Glasgow earlier this month.

The Council’s priority remains keeping people safe and protecting public health. As restrictions and guidance change the Council will continue to work with clubs to ensure that normal activity can resume in as safe as possible manner.

It's almost like I did my research. :wink:



https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-calculating-physical-distancing-capacity-in-public-settings/pages/events/

[Sir David Gray]

I’m not a fan of pre season friendlies so I’d probably have given it a miss anyway, but it does still annoy me that they’re charging that much after the fans have put so much in during the last year and a half.

Agreed again. :agree:

[lord bunberry]

Just announced you can watch on PPV
We’ll probably make a few quid from Arsenal fans now. I’ll probably get it as well.

[CapitalGreen]

We’ll probably make a few quid from Arsenal fans now. I’ll probably get it as well.

Arsenal are showing the game on their own TV platform for £7.99 so I doubt it. No doubt the club probably wanted to fleece us for PPV too but have had to match Arsenal’s pricing.

[marinello59]

After everything that's happened in the last 18 months or so, the money the club has hemorrhaged, is it really a surprise the club are trying to make a little killing when one of England's top guns comes to town?

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After our household paid over a grand to watch games on a stream for a season I don’t expect them to try and make a killing from us at all.
I don’t expect anything for nothing but the club got this one wrong. If they messed up with a fee of some sort then asking us to pay the price again stinks. It’s not often I’m priced out but I was this time.

[Moulin Yarns]

All I see there is Sturgeon hates fitbaw.

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How do you figure out that? Have you really not read the thread?

[WhileTheChief..]

How much do we get paid by clubs when we go to their grounds for training games?

We just played two matches down south, we should be quids in.

[Peevemor]

How much do we get paid by clubs when we go to their grounds for training games?

We just played two matches down south, we should be quids in.There was no paying public.

[WhileTheChief..]

Your first post on this thread was that you wouldn’t comment. What happened?

[Moulin Yarns]

Your first post on this thread was that you wouldn’t comment. What happened?

:confused:

[flash]

Arsenal are showing the game on their own TV platform for £7.99 so I doubt it. No doubt the club probably wanted to fleece us for PPV too but have had to match Arsenal’s pricing.

Hibs were going to charge 30 apparently.

[Billy Whizz]

As Matty posted earlier...

"The match would have gone ahead with no fans and Hibs would have relied on ppv revenue to cover costs.

I was very critical of the £26, and while i still think it’s too much, having had a chat with someone from Hibs, they were caught between a rock and a hard place with it after the goalposts were moved with regards to attendance. "

Show me where you were critical for starters
Secondly if we were planning to have lots of fans in this month, someone has made a big mistake. No one should have been taking a risk at Hibs on this, all their fault, and the fans as usual pick up the tab

Wonder what the price will be for the home European game against the minnows of Andorra or Gibraltar

[Callum_62]

How do you figure out that? Have you really not read the thread?[emoji57]

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[Peevemor]

Show me where you were critical for starters
Secondly if we were planning to have lots of fans in this month, someone has made a big mistake. No one should have been taking a risk at Hibs on this, all their fault, and the fans as usual pick up the tab

Wonder what the price will be for the home European game against the minnows of Andorra or GibraltarI was quoting Matty, hence the quotation marks.

[DH1875]

Hibs were going to charge 30 apparently.

Behave. No one in their right mind would be paying that sort of money.

[bigwheel]

Hibs charging in recent years has mostly very steep ..higher than almost all other teams ..yet again here . Seems to be the MO now …

[blackpoolhibs]

It makes no difference what restrictions are on at the time, or if we are paying them a fee or not. £26 for a stroll about friendly, with multiple changes against a weak Arsenal is way too much money to be charging.

[JimBHibees]

How do you figure out that? Have you really not read the thread?

I read that as sarcastic

[Moulin Yarns]

I read that as sarcastic

Might have worked with a quote and a winkie emoticon. We are all difficult to read online. :wink:

[JimBHibees]

Are fans expected to provide photo Id for this game? Do fans get a specific time to be expected to arrive at the ground?

[lord bunberry]

Behave. No one in their right mind would be paying that sort of money.
I don’t think he was being serious.

[Billy Whizz]

Are fans expected to provide photo Id for this game? Do fans get a specific time to be expected to arrive at the ground?

Just what’s on the attachment a few pages above
Nothing on my tickets about an entry gate or time, checked the email too, nothing on that either

[JimBHibees]

Just what’s on the attachment a few pages above
Nothing on my tickets about an entry gate or time, checked the email too, nothing on that either

Ok ta :aok:

[Rumble de Thump]

They’ve got loads more money than us obviously.

That club is subsidised by a millionaire who likes flushing his money down the toilet. They also made quite a bit of cash by lying to their fans about how many games they'd get to attend when they were selling season tickets last year.

[WhileTheChief..]

Wonder what the price will be for the home European game against the minnows of Andorra or Gibraltar

£23 for the games against against Asteras and Molde in 2018.

[CapitalGreen]

£23 for the games against against Asteras and Molde in 2018.

Prices for our Arsenal friendly are up 73% on the price of our Newcastle friendly a couple of years ago. A similar rise for our Europeans ties would be £40 for a ticket 😮

[Billy Whizz]

Prices for our Arsenal friendly are up 73% on the price of our Newcastle friendly a couple of years ago. A similar rise for our Europeans ties would be £40 for a ticket 😮

Imagine the reaction on here😀
I’m presuming there will still only be 2,000 for the Euro Cup home game

[ronaldo7]

Imagine the reaction on here😀
I’m presuming there will still only be 2,000 for the Euro Cup home game

I think hibs should reward the loyalty of the fans attending the Arsenal match, and give them first dibs on the European tie. 😉

[ekhibee]

Hibs charging in recent years has mostly very steep ..higher than almost all other teams ..yet again here . Seems to be the MO now …

This.

[Sir David Gray]

Prices for our Arsenal friendly are up 73% on the price of our Newcastle friendly a couple of years ago. A similar rise for our Europeans ties would be £40 for a ticket 😮

I can't wait to go back but I wouldn't pay £40 to see us play a team from either Andorra or Gibraltar.

Hopefully the club realise they were out of order with the Arsenal pricing and get this one right.

[Billy Whizz]

I can't wait to go back but I wouldn't pay £40 to see us play a team from either Andorra or Gibraltar.

Hopefully the club realise they were out of order with the Arsenal pricing and get this one right.

Twenty’s plenty

[KingPat4]

Public sale, just bought two tickets. Handful left.

[Danderhall Hibs]

That club is subsidised by a millionaire who likes flushing his money down the toilet. They also made quite a bit of cash by lying to their fans about how many games they'd get to attend when they were selling season tickets last year.

I read on here that they were discounting season tickets as well due to last season - along the lines of if you didn’t watch you get a credit on your account. That would’ve been good for the likes of me with 4 streams available but only used 1.

Maybe doing things like that help encourage their fans to do the foundation donations?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Public sale, just bought two tickets. Handful left.

I’m glad it’s going to this - hopefully a message no matter how small that they can’t take the piss like this.

[Stairway 2 7]

Sold out

[Broken Gnome]

Bit of bad press for us from the Daily Mail's guy (Raith fan/young son a Hibs ST holder) as to how we're going about this.

Know Motherwell have had a lot of good publicity around loyalty and ST initiatives, we seem on some level to be quite a way off that in terms of how we're treating customers/fans.

[Dueday]

Don Robertson the Ref for the game I am led believe.

[CMurdoch]

Sold out

With 4 days to spare

[northern-hibee]

With 4 days to spare

Good pricing by Hibs then

[Brightside]

Bit of bad press for us from the Daily Mail's guy (Raith fan/young son a Hibs ST holder) as to how we're going about this.

Know Motherwell have had a lot of good publicity around loyalty and ST initiatives, we seem on some level to be quite a way off that in terms of how we're treating customers/fans.

We do a massive amount of community work and our fans raise a huge amount of money for good causes.

[Iggy Pope]

Just what’s on the attachment a few pages above
Nothing on my tickets about an entry gate or time, checked the email too, nothing on that either

Seems par for the course just now that they might stipulate something to us that no ****er knows anything about!
The Raith tickets have entry time slots but nothing I’ve seen from Hibs.
At a 6pm kick off I can see folk having to take a halfy to get their early enough to get in...:greengrin

[CapitalGreen]

Good pricing by Hibs then

Less than 20% of season ticket holders wanted tickets at those prices.

[Billy Whizz]

Seems par for the course just now that they might stipulate something to us that no ****er knows anything about!
The Raith tickets have entry time slots but nothing I’ve seen from Hibs.
At a 6pm kick off I can see folk having to take a halfy to get their early enough to get in...:greengrin

I agree, it’s needs clarity. Looks like our statement was written months ago
Very few wearing face masks at Kelty tonight.

Hearts for what it’s worth, no face masks for under 16’s, and no face masks in your seat, for their League cup game midweek
Hibs meanwhile…….

[Iggy Pope]

I agree, it’s needs clarity. Looks like our statement was written months ago
Very few wearing face masks at Kelty tonight.

Hearts for what it’s worth, no face masks for under 16’s, and no face masks in your seat, for their League cup game midweek
Hibs meanwhile…….

Scandalous. The wearing of full masks should be mandatory for every Hearts **** for the sake of the bairns at least.

[CMurdoch]

Less than 20% of season ticket holders wanted tickets at those prices.

A lot of folk don't do kickabouts.
I always find them tedious after about 20 minutes.so was happy to let others take up the option.

£8 ppv between a few supporters might be the way to go for the curious who didn't want to spring £26 a skull.

[CapitalGreen]

A lot of folk don't do kickabouts.
I always find them tedious after about 20 minutes.

£8 ppv between a few supporters might be the way to go for the curious who didn't want to spring £26 a skull.

For comparison, there were 12,500+ at the Newcastle friendly a couple of years ago which was priced at £15.

[marinello59]

Good pricing by Hibs then

Really? Over 80% off season ticket holders who were happy to support the club with no prospect of attending games have said no to this one. That’s a strong message to Ron Gordon that we aren’t just here to ‘pony up.’

[calumhibee1]

Really? Over 80% off season ticket holders who were happy to support the club with no prospect of attending games have said no to this one. That’s a strong message to Ron Gordon that we aren’t just here to ‘pony up.’

:agree:

[Sir David Gray]

Really? Over 80% off season ticket holders who were happy to support the club with no prospect of attending games have said no to this one. That’s a strong message to Ron Gordon that we aren’t just here to ‘pony up.’

:top marks

[Rumble de Thump]

Really? Over 80% off season ticket holders who were happy to support the club with no prospect of attending games have said no to this one. That’s a strong message to Ron Gordon that we aren’t just here to ‘pony up.’

It's sold out so the right number of Hibs fans were happy to support the club without the game being subsidised.

[Callum_62]

I can see 'pony up' is making a resurgence.

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[neil7908]

It's sold out so the right number of Hibs fans were happy to support the club without the game being subsidised.

We have to be careful with that mentality. It's a dangerous road to go down if fans begin to feel priced out of supporting their team, especially given we don't sell out Easter Road most weeks.

[Andy74]

Really? Over 80% off season ticket holders who were happy to support the club with no prospect of attending games have said no to this one. That’s a strong message to Ron Gordon that we aren’t just here to ‘pony up.’

The 'pony up' nonsense doesn't really help the argument here.

We don't really know what 80% of the ST base are thinking on this one.

Some I'm sure will have been put off by price but time and again pricing has been shown to have an absolutely negligible impact on people attending football matches. For what people pay for various forms of entertainment these days £26 is not a lot money and £6 is not a huge difference to most people from the £20 that many thought would be more reasonable.

It is a friendly that you needed to buy tickets for in advance, midweek in the evening, during holiday period (even though for most that will be in the UK). It was also severely limited ticket wise and difficult to get tickets in groups after the first few hours of sale.

Does sitting in a small crowd in these circumstances suit everyone experience wise? Is everyone comfortable with the current risks at this point of the pandemic? Is it easier all told to carry on watching on the TV at this point?

Loads of reasons people might not have been bothered about tickets for this - and it still sold out fairly easily.

[neil7908]

I can see 'pony up' is making a resurgence.

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I'm critical of this pricing structure but don't understand why this is being brought up. I'd be surprised if Ron was involved in pricing for this game, and given we've reject bids for millions on January for Nisbet and Porto, I think the evidence is pretty strong that Ron isn't trying to play us.

[marinello59]

I can see 'pony up' is making a resurgence.

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I do hope it isn’t just down to me. :greengrin

[Rumble de Thump]

We have to be careful with that mentality. It's a dangerous road to go down if fans begin to feel priced out of supporting their team, especially given we don't sell out Easter Road most weeks.

There are restrictions in place impacting the price. The restrictions are temporary.

[weecounty hibby]

I'm a ST holder and wouldn't have gone if it was £5. Pre season friendlies are a waste of time and would be as well being behind closed doors. Was at the Barcelona game but I think the last friendly before that was probably Man Utd when we played due to our undersoil heating. Mostly played with zero intensity with multiple subs breaking up any continuity

[CapitalGreen]

There are restrictions in place impacting the price. The restrictions are temporary.

Yet other teams in our league facing the same restrictions have managed to keep their prices reasonable.

[B.H.F.C]

There are restrictions in place impacting the price. The restrictions are temporary.

Restrictions seem to impact Hibs pricing more than others with a similar sized stadium allowing a similar number in though.

[Andy74]

Restrictions seem to impact Hibs pricing more than others with a similar sized stadium allowing a similar number in though.

Taken in isolation, maybe, though we don't know how the costs of the games really compare. You'd then have to look at where they plan to recoup the money from if they are losing any putting these games on.

[B.H.F.C]

Taken in isolation, maybe, though we don't know how the costs of the games really compare. You'd then have to look at where they plan to recoup the money from if they are losing any putting these games on.

Two games are on, in the same city, on the same night, in the same size of stadium, with the same size of crowd permitted.

One is priced reasonably. One isn’t. Not surprised it’s ours that isn’t priced reasonably. Whether it’s in isolation or whatever.

[Andy74]

Two games are on, in the same city, on the same night, in the same size of stadium, with the same size of crowd permitted.

One is priced reasonably. One isn’t. Not surprised it’s ours that isn’t priced reasonably. Whether it’s in isolation or whatever.

Hearts are playing Cove Rangers?

[EastThomasSTboy]

£23 for the games against against Asteras and Molde in 2018.

I think it will be £32.00.:flag::flag:

[B.H.F.C]

Hearts are playing Cove Rangers?

Does the cost to manage a crowd of 2,000 dramatically increase dependant on who you’re playing?

[CapitalGreen]

Two games are on, in the same city, on the same night, in the same size of stadium, with the same size of crowd permitted.

One is priced reasonably. One isn’t. Not surprised it’s ours that isn’t priced reasonably. Whether it’s in isolation or whatever.

Also, the team that has priced their game reasonably have to give half their gate receipts to the opposition.

[Andy74]

Does the cost to manage a crowd of 2,000 dramatically increase dependant on who you’re playing?

The cost of putting the game on might, yeah.

[Danderhall Hibs]

The cost of putting the game on might, yeah.

In what way? If there’s no fee for Arsenal (which I think is true) so what costs us more than them?

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/1413539654696161281?s=19

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[Dalianwanda]

In what way? If there’s no fee for Arsenal (which I think is true) so what costs us more than them?

But you don’t know if it is true? Would you expect to pay more to see the Rolling Stones in the Queens Hall than some up and coming Scottish band in the same venue?

How ever they have worked it out Hibs don’t have a record for treating fans like mugs. This may be too deemed to pricey for some but in isolation it is what it is and unless we’re asking to club to show an itemised cost analysis for a pre season friendly any idea of price fairness is based on guesswork at best.

[CapitalGreen]

But you don’t know if it is true? Would you expect to pay more to see the Rolling Stones in the Queens Hall than some up and coming Scottish band in the same venue?

How ever they have worked it out Hibs don’t have a record for treating fans like mugs. This may be too deemed to pricey for some but in isolation it is what it is and unless we’re asking to club to show an itemised cost analysis for a pre season friendly any idea of price fairness is based on guesswork at best.

Let’s assume then that both teams need all match day income from their fans to cover the costs of the game as is being suggested here.

Hibs: 2000 tickets x £26 = £52,000

Hearts: 2000 tickets x £10 = £20,000 -> half to Cove = £10,000

Are we really suggesting that it is costing Hibs 5 times as much to host a preseason friendly as it costing Hearts to host a competitive League Cup tie in the same city on the same day?

*Assumption made that both teams will have roughly similar numbers of concessions. Taking concession prices into account would actually make this difference even wider.

[Rumble de Thump]

Let’s assume then that both teams need all match day income from their fans to cover the costs of the game as is being suggested here.

Hibs: 2000 tickets x £26 = £52,000

Hearts: 2000 tickets x £10 = £20,000 -> half to Cove = £10,000

Are we really suggesting that it is costing Hibs 5 times as much to host a preseason friendly as it costing Hearts to host a competitive League Cup tie in the same city on the same day?

*Assumption made that both teams will have roughly similar numbers of concessions. Taking concession prices into account would actually make this difference even wider.

How much is it costing Hearts?

[Sir David Gray]

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/1413539654696161281?s=19

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Good luck to them, there's not a hope in hell of that being approved but there's no harm in trying I suppose.

[CapitalGreen]

How much is it costing Hearts?

At most 1/5th of what it’s costing us apparently if you believe both clubs are using the fans to cover the costs.

[Rumble de Thump]

At most 1/5th of what it’s costing us apparently if you believe both clubs are using the fans to cover the costs.

I don't know either.

[Moulin Yarns]

The ticket prices are possibly based on market forces, arsenal are more than likely to be a more attractive team to see than Cove rangers so tickets are priced accordingly.

[CapitalGreen]

The ticket prices are possibly based on market forces, arsenal are more than likely to be a more attractive team to see than Cove rangers so tickets are priced accordingly.

So you agree it’s likely nothing to do with covering costs and more likely the club looking to fleece the Hibs support for as much as they can.

[Moulin Yarns]

So you agree it’s likely nothing to do with covering costs and more likely the club looking to fleece the Hibs support for as much as they can.

No. All I was doing was give an alternative view. :wink:

[JohnMcM]

This is listed as being on Hibs TV at 1800hrs. Presumably ST holders can log in as last season to watch?

[JohnM1875]

This is listed as being on Hibs TV at 1800hrs. Presumably ST holders can log in as last season to watch?


Don't think so, think you'll need to pay the £8 for the PPV?

[Peevemor]

No. All I was doing was give an alternative view. :wink:You're looking for trouble in that case.

[Highwayman]

This is listed as being on Hibs TV at 1800hrs. Presumably ST holders can log in as last season to watch?

Can this be fully clarified as to whether it’s free to watch per your ST or subject to PPV.

[Sir David Gray]

Can this be fully clarified as to whether it’s free to watch per your ST or subject to PPV.

PPV as far as I'm aware - £7.99.

[MKHIBEE]

Let’s assume then that both teams need all match day income from their fans to cover the costs of the game as is being suggested here.

Hibs: 2000 tickets x £26 = £52,000

Hearts: 2000 tickets x £10 = £20,000 -> half to Cove = £10,000

Are we really suggesting that it is costing Hibs 5 times as much to host a preseason friendly as it costing Hearts to host a competitive League Cup tie in the same city on the same day?

*Assumption made that both teams will have roughly similar numbers of concessions. Taking concession prices into account would actually make this difference even wider.

If you take away the VAT, which neither club gets, you find the ration is more like 3.5 times as much. If Hibs sell more concessions than Hearts then difference is less. As very few of us know what it is going to cost each club to stage their respective games , and neither do we know how much each clubs gate receipts will be then its pointless trying to make comparisons. If you want to make comparisons its best to do it with facts.

[JohnM1875]

Can this be fully clarified as to whether it’s free to watch per your ST or subject to PPV.

Doubt it'll be free to watch if you're a current ST holder. They're asking current ST holders to pay £26 to attend in person and friendly games aren't usually included on your ST.

[Moulin Yarns]

You're looking for trouble in that case.

I don't have to look for trouble, it always seems to find me 🤔😉

[CapitalGreen]

If you take away the VAT, which neither club gets, you find the ration is more like 3.5 times as much. If Hibs sell more concessions than Hearts then difference is less. As very few of us know what it is going to cost each club to stage their respective games , and neither do we know how much each clubs gate receipts will be then its pointless trying to make comparisons. If you want to make comparisons its best to do it with facts.

There’s no way Hibs are selling more concessions than Hearts at those prices. A concession ticket for the Arsenal game is more expensive than we charged for an Adult ticket to the Newcastle friendly 2 years ago 🤣🤣

Here’s a fact for you, it costs the parent of a Hibs supporting child more than 3 times as much as what it costs the parent of a Hearts supporting child to take them to a match in Edinburgh this weekend.

[Moulin Yarns]

There’s no way Hibs are selling more concessions than Hearts at those prices. A concession ticket for the Arsenal game is more expensive than we charged for an Adult ticket to the Newcastle friendly 2 years ago 🤣🤣

Here’s a fact for you, it costs the parent of a Hibs supporting child more than 3 times as much as what it costs the parent of a Hearts supporting child to take them to a match in Edinburgh this weekend.

If the price of a ticket is so important to you why not support hearts or a junior team?

[MWHIBBIES]

There’s no way Hibs are selling more concessions than Hearts at those prices. A concession ticket for the Arsenal game is more expensive than we charged for an Adult ticket to the Newcastle friendly 2 years ago 🤣🤣

Here’s a fact for you, it costs the parent of a Hibs supporting child more than 3 times as much as what it costs the parent of a Hearts supporting child to take them to a match in Edinburgh this weekend.

Like comparing Wagyu beef to McDonalds though, really. Of course you're paying more for a bit of quality.

Hearts are a tin pot side, and they're playing a tin pot side.

We're a good side, and we're playing a huge English club, who probably will have some real top quality players on show.