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Hibbyradge
22-04-2021, 05:32 PM
Apart from John O'Neil
Drey Wright although I know he's not a favourite.
Wakeyhibee
22-04-2021, 05:38 PM
I don't understand why we seem to struggle against St Johnstone more often than not in the league. They're a bog standard side with very little about them to be worried about on paper anyway.
Some decent enough players but none that I would take at Hibs (case and point the majority of Hibs players who have come from them end up flops). At best they're a well drilled side (I appreciate they won a cup this year but I'm talking more generally over recent history in the league).
Had a look at this perception on fitbastats. Hibs have the upper had on St Johnstone over the last 20 years and whilst they are closer than you would think for the size of clubs, they are only just behind us in average finishes in the top league (we are 5th best, they are 6th best).
Whilst you can assert the quality of individuals hasn't been overwhelming, it is a teams performance overall, something theyve been very good at and quite consistant over that period.
Wilson
22-04-2021, 05:42 PM
I don't understand why we seem to struggle against St Johnstone more often than not in the league. They're a bog standard side with very little about them to be worried about on paper anyway.
Some decent enough players but none that I would take at Hibs (case and point the majority of Hibs players who have come from them end up flops). At best they're a well drilled side (I appreciate they won a cup this year but I'm talking more generally over recent history in the league).
Everything about them is shrewd. Their managerial appointments. The players they pick up. Players we might describe as flops are very good at this level - like Liam Craig.
They must use their resources as well as any team in the league. I can't help but admire them. Hope we get the better of them this time though!
MWHIBBIES
22-04-2021, 05:50 PM
It really shouldn't be lost at this point, we are a capable team and we've ground out results a bit better than some previous seasons. Did Livi get a sniff after they pulled one back? Previously I feel like I'd have been watching the last 5+3 through my fingers as wave after wave of attack came at us but we seen it out well.
However I'll not be counting my chickens regardless. It doesn't seem to require that an implausible set of results to happen to derail us...
Hibs 0 - 2 saints
Livi 0 - 2 Aberdeen
Aberdeen 3 - 0 Hibs
Hibs 0 - 3 Celtic
Rangers 1 - 0 Aberdeen
Actually, nah we're fine. :greengrin
Conceded less than 1 goal per game and we lose 8 in 3 games?
Aberdeen scored about 3 since Christmas suddenly score 5?
3rd is pretty safe
Tambo
22-04-2021, 06:07 PM
Can see Livi and the sheep drawing so another performance like last nights first half for 90 minutes and we should have it wrapped up that weekend.
MWHIBBIES
22-04-2021, 09:47 PM
I don't understand why we seem to struggle against St Johnstone more often than not in the league. They're a bog standard side with very little about them to be worried about on paper anyway.
Some decent enough players but none that I would take at Hibs (case and point the majority of Hibs players who have come from them end up flops). At best they're a well drilled side (I appreciate they won a cup this year but I'm talking more generally over recent history in the league).
They press high and fast in the midfield. Beat that consistently and they are wide open.
147lothian
23-04-2021, 04:11 PM
Even a draw against St Johnstone will probably be enough to see us clinch third, its going to be a day for keeping an eye at the score at Livi while watching our game
Ronniekirk
23-04-2021, 04:27 PM
I still don’t understand why third isn’t guaranteeing this slot for europa conference league?
So we could technically finish third, Aberdeen win the cup and they get the better European slot.
That doesn’t seem right
Do t rule out the free scoring Kilmarnock in cup competition
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Since452
23-04-2021, 04:27 PM
I'm very relaxed about 3rd now after Wednesday
Dr What If?
23-04-2021, 04:36 PM
Aberdeen are capable of beating us and Livi, we are capable of loosing to St J and Aberdeen....the opposite is equally as true though but in neither scenario is it very likely there will be a high margin of victory.
Worst case scenario we go into the last game needing to match Aberdeen's score against Rangers to get third place......in short I'd rather be in our shoes that theirs.
BlackSheep
01-05-2021, 04:28 PM
Not like hibs to leave us all on the edge of our seats for things!!!
So a draw at Aberdeen would all but seal 3rd now.
A loss and they’d need to beat or draw with Rangers and us lose to Celtic.
Win and 3rd is ours.
Hiber-nation
01-05-2021, 04:36 PM
Not like hibs to leave us all on the edge of our seats for things!!!
So a draw at Aberdeen would all but seal 3rd now.
A loss and they’d need to beat or draw with Rangers and us lose to Celtic.
Win and 3rd is ours.
I can see them winning at Greyskull, the huns have downed tools. We have to get this done at Pittodrie.
mayo hibee
01-05-2021, 04:46 PM
If we win the cup nobody will care either way about third place. We'll have got both prizes that really matter - the cup itself and group stage European football.
And if we don't win the cup nobody will care either way about third place. We'll have missed out on both prizes that matter, the cup itself and group stage European football.
Strange the way it has worked out, but other than the prize money, which isn't massive, third is irrelevant now.
Spike Mandela
01-05-2021, 04:48 PM
It will go to the wire that’s a certainty.
Onion
01-05-2021, 04:55 PM
If we win the cup nobody will care either way about third place. We'll have got both prizes that really matter - the cup itself and group stage European football.
And if we don't win the cup nobody will care either way about third place. We'll have missed out on both prizes that matter, the cup itself and group stage European football.
Strange the way it has worked out, but other than the prize money, which isn't massive, third is irrelevant now.
Until last week, Hibs were hot favourites to get the big money prize, with Aberdeen the only other club with a likely outside chance. Today, there are 3 new clubs which now have an equal chance of winning the big money prize and St Johnstone have become the unlikely favourites. That's a massive kick in the balls to Hibs players who have been working so hard to get themselves into that position.
IberianHibernian
01-05-2021, 04:56 PM
If we win the cup nobody will care either way about third place. We'll have got both prizes that really matter - the cup itself and group stage European football.
And if we don't win the cup nobody will care either way about third place. We'll have missed out on both prizes that matter, the cup itself and group stage European football.
Strange the way it has worked out, but other than the prize money, which isn't massive, third is irrelevant now. We keep reading about Aberdeen outbidding us for players so I suppose 250k more for us and less for Aberdeen (500k difference) prize money must be important . Not been 3rd for 15 years either so still important . Winning the cup obviously more important than 3rd but 3rd still important and would be a boost before final if we win semi .
Sir David Gray
01-05-2021, 05:00 PM
I still think we'll have enough but the fact it's potentially going down to the final day is mind blowing.
A Hi-Bee
01-05-2021, 06:19 PM
Until last week, Hibs were hot favourites to get the big money prize, with Aberdeen the only other club with a likely outside chance. Today, there are 3 new clubs which now have an equal chance of winning the big money prize and St Johnstone have become the unlikely favourites. That's a massive kick in the balls to Hibs players who have been working so hard to get themselves into that position.
The kick in the baws is to us the support the players get what they deserve if they cannot turn it on enough to not get beat by St J then who can say that Saint J dont get all they deserve.
Danderhall Hibs
01-05-2021, 06:22 PM
I still think we'll have enough but the fact it's potentially going down to the final day is mind blowing.
Should’ve been sewn up before the split.
Heisenberg
01-05-2021, 06:26 PM
I still think we'll have enough but the fact it's potentially going down to the final day is mind blowing.
It’s Hibs, nothing about this is mind blowing.
Sir David Gray
01-05-2021, 06:58 PM
It’s Hibs, nothing about this is mind blowing.
That's true!
Sir David Gray
01-05-2021, 07:38 PM
Should’ve been sewn up before the split.
I really thought it was with us 7 points ahead with 5 games left.
MWHIBBIES
01-05-2021, 07:58 PM
Should’ve been sewn up before the split.
We should've been 15 points ahead? Seriously?
hhibs
01-05-2021, 07:58 PM
I really thought it was with us 7 points ahead with 5 games left.
After today ,we might well be **** ed
Lancs Harp
01-05-2021, 08:00 PM
I really thought it was with us 7 points ahead with 5 games left.
It was. We'll get over the line but should have been a bit more comfortable than this.
Danderhall Hibs
01-05-2021, 08:07 PM
We should've been 15 points ahead? Seriously?
Yeah - a loss at home to Motherwell, a draw away at Livi and a loss at StJohnstone from memory - turn that round and we’d have been done. Aberdeen couldn’t score a goal for weeks and we kept throwing points away.
MWHIBBIES
01-05-2021, 08:16 PM
Yeah - a loss at home to Motherwell, a draw away at Livi and a loss at StJohnstone from memory - turn that round and we’d have been done. Aberdeen couldn’t score a goal for weeks and we kept throwing points away.
No, we didnt. We clawed back 4 points and a game in hand for them (so 7 point deficet potentially) to go 7 ahead. Thats excellent.
If we can just randomly add points that we didn't actually earn, cant Aberdeen do the same?
In that case, if they had won every game, they'd have won the league.
Danderhall Hibs
01-05-2021, 08:18 PM
No, we didnt. We clawed back 4 points and a game in hand for them (so 7 point deficet potentially) to go 7 ahead. Thats excellent.
If we can just randomly add points that we didn't actually earn, cant Aberdeen do the same?
In that case, if they had won every game, they'd have won the league.
Ok.
There were conversations at the time about it happening - Aberdeen were terrible at the time but we didn’t capitalise against teams we’ve been better than all season. 7 ahead and three points away (8 of them).
Depends how you want to spin it though and I appreciate that.
MWHIBBIES
01-05-2021, 08:20 PM
Ok.
There were conversations at the time about it happening - Aberdeen were terrible at the time but we didn’t capitalise against teams we’ve been better than all season. 7 ahead and three points away (8 of them).
Depends how you want to spin it though and I appreciate that.
There was conversations about Doidge being rubbish. People will always talk absolute rubbish.
Hibs have had a very good league season.
Danderhall Hibs
01-05-2021, 08:28 PM
There was conversations about Doidge being rubbish. People will always talk absolute rubbish.
Hibs have had a very good league season.
I’m not denying either of your points - I agree we’ve had a good season. I just think 3rd could’ve / should’ve been seen up well before now and possibly even before the split. We’ve given Aberdeen a glimmer now - and got to go there next. It should never have been this close.
MWHIBBIES
01-05-2021, 08:49 PM
I’m not denying either of your points - I agree we’ve had a good season. I just think 3rd could’ve / should’ve been seen up well before now and possibly even before the split. We’ve given Aberdeen a glimmer now - and got to go there next. It should never have been this close.
But they will think the same. They should've had it well in hand as well, they were miles ahead. Neither team has tied it up because neither is that much better than the other.
AFKA5814_Hibs
01-05-2021, 08:59 PM
But they will think the same. They should've had it well in hand as well, they were miles ahead. Neither team has tied it up because neither is that much better than the other.
I seen a meme recently that summed up the fight for 3rd place between Hibs and Aberdeen. It was 2 old guys that kept falling over themselves and neither could get over the finishing line.
Danderhall Hibs
01-05-2021, 08:59 PM
But they will think the same. They should've had it well in hand as well, they were miles ahead. Neither team has tied it up because neither is that much better than the other.
They might but they were consistently poor for ages, couldn’t score a goal never mind win matches - we were inconsistent and threw points away.
davidgray210516
01-05-2021, 09:00 PM
Really could genuinely not care about 1 league result left tbh. The cup is all that matters after rangers going out. We could finish 4th and get beat 7-0 the next 2 games for all I care, makes no difference. Win the cup though that’s a different story. Our season has been pinpointed down to the Scottish cup not 3rd or 4th.
Sir David Gray
01-05-2021, 09:05 PM
After today ,we might well be **** ed
I still think we'll be ok. I think we'll lose at Pittodrie but I don't see Aberdeen getting anything at Ibrox on the final day and I think we'll lose to Celtic so I think we'll do it on goal difference.
Ronniekirk
01-05-2021, 09:19 PM
If we win the cup nobody will care either way about third place. We'll have got both prizes that really matter - the cup itself and group stage European football.
And if we don't win the cup nobody will care either way about third place. We'll have missed out on both prizes that matter, the cup itself and group stage European football.
Strange the way it has worked out, but other than the prize money, which isn't massive, third is irrelevant now.
It’s a Big If though A performance like today and we have no chance
It’s the fact they made seven changes yet we hardly tested Thier keeper thsts the worry fir me And again we gift a goal and can’t change things to get back into the game
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The Spaceman
01-05-2021, 09:20 PM
Really could genuinely not care about 1 league result left tbh. The cup is all that matters after rangers going out. We could finish 4th and get beat 7-0 the next 2 games for all I care, makes no difference. Win the cup though that’s a different story. Our season has been pinpointed down to the Scottish cup not 3rd or 4th.
I’d love us to finish third, but the implications for us finishing there are now extremely marginal. Our season as you say now hinges on the Scottish Cup - the game changer for us will be winning that competition. We are guaranteed Euro football now to the same extent fourth is. I have a lot less interest in the league now, which is awful I know.
JohnM1875
01-05-2021, 09:52 PM
If we don't finish third after the advantage we held over Aberdeen I'd be fuming. Especially after today.
St Johnstone rested what, six or so first team players? We didn't, we played at full strength as much as possible. So we, as a club, clearly care about finishing third.
Shocking performance today. So deflated after that.
hhibs
01-05-2021, 10:14 PM
I still think we'll be ok. I think we'll lose at Pittodrie but I don't see Aberdeen getting anything at Ibrox on the final day and I think we'll lose to Celtic so I think we'll do it on goal difference.
Hope we do emerge but that would be a horrible end of season collapse and,it is not impossible given the level of the performance,or lack of,today .
If that was combined with Cup failure that would be a truly awful end to our season.
Gordy M
01-05-2021, 10:35 PM
Aberdeen 8/1 to finish top w/o the old firm so money to be made for those thinking we wont finish 3rd.
The Harp
01-05-2021, 11:14 PM
Before today's game I expected us to take at least as much from it as Aberdeen would take from their game at Livi.
I've been supporting Hibs long enough that I should've remembered that's not the way we do things.
Worst case scenario for me is Aberdeen to beat us on the 12th by up to 3 goals, meaning they will be level on 59 points with us but we will be 3 goals better off.
It will then be all down to how we get on against Celtic and how they fare v the Huns. Looking at it logically I can't see them taking anything away from Ibrox, and I think the most we can hope for is a point against Celtic. Or even if we lose I wouldn't expect it to be by more than they do, so we would finish in 3rd place.
Apologies for the negative post, and I hope to hell we clinch it by winning at Pittodrie, but that's not the Hibs way :(
Unseen work
01-05-2021, 11:25 PM
A couple of days ago people were making out third wasn’t important and we should put all our focus on the cup.
This is what I feared.
Aberdeen have it all to gain here, been slaughtered all season for being poor and now they have the chance to nick third.
We’re never great against Aberdeen so I don’t fancy is at all and then Celtic and rangers fixtures are a lottery.
Not finishing third would be a massive massive blow.
Sir David Gray
01-05-2021, 11:25 PM
Before today's game I expected us to take at least as much from it as Aberdeen would take from their game at Livi.
I've been supporting Hibs long enough that I should've remembered that's not the way we do things.
Worst case scenario for me is Aberdeen to beat us on the 12th by up to 3 goals, meaning they will be level on 59 points with us but we will be 3 goals better off.
It will then be all down to how we get on against Celtic and how they fare v the Huns. Looking at it logically I can't see them taking anything away from Ibrox, and I think the most we can hope for is a point against Celtic. Or even if we lose I wouldn't expect it to be by more than they do, so we would finish in 3rd place.
Apologies for the negative post, and I hope to hell we clinch it by winning at Pittodrie, but that's not the Hibs way :(
Yeah I think we'll need to do it on goal difference I don't have much confidence of us getting anything at Pittodrie.
IberianHibernian
01-05-2021, 11:55 PM
For weeks I`ve been reading here that we were guaranteed third because Aberdeen would get nothing against Rangers and Celtic . Every year there are funny results at the end of the season with teams playing for very little dropping ponts to supposedly weaker teams who need the points ( Ross County at Tannadice for example ) . If we get to the last day hoping Rangers beat Aberdeen we`ll be struggling . I spent most of today`s game looking to see if Livi could get a point or more given that we never looked like scoring . If we draw at Pittodrie we should get third but if we lose even by one goal , it could be a difficult last day . If we`re in cup final , people will say it doesn`t matter but if we finish 4th and don`t win cup , this season will not be considered a success by many .
Sir David Gray
01-05-2021, 11:58 PM
For weeks I`ve been reading here that we were guaranteed third because Aberdeen would get nothing against Rangers and Celtic . Every year there are funny results at the end of the season with teams playing for very little dropping ponts to supposedly weaker teams who need the points ( Ross County at Tannadice for example ) . If we get to the last day hoping Rangers beat Aberdeen we`ll be struggling . I spent most of today`s game looking to see if Livi could get a point or more given that we never looked like scoring . If we draw at Pittodrie we should get third but if we lose even by one goal , it could be a difficult last day . If we`re in cup final , people will say it doesn`t matter but if we finish 4th and don`t win cup , this season will not be considered a success by many .
Finishing 4th and failing to win the cup is an unthinkable scenario.
cubehindthegoal
02-05-2021, 12:03 AM
Yeah - a loss at home to Motherwell, a draw away at Livi and a loss at StJohnstone from memory - turn that round and we’d have been done. Aberdeen couldn’t score a goal for weeks and we kept throwing points away.
Ifs and buts ... it’s easy to criticise the points we’ve missed, and ignore the points we have gained when we perhaps shouldn’t have ...but that is a contradiction, and a very unfair one on our team.
Danderhall Hibs
02-05-2021, 07:40 AM
Ifs and buts ... it’s easy to criticise the points we’ve missed, and ignore the points we have gained when we perhaps shouldn’t have ...but that is a contradiction, and a very unfair one on our team.
I know it’s similar to the “can’t win big games” (if you exclude the big games won) argument but there were a few games, like I mentioned, prior to the split where we could’ve nailed 3rd down, mainly due to Aberdeen’s failings.
Massive opportunity missed and we’ve now put pressure on ourselves to go either go to Pittodrie to get something or get something from Celtic on the last day.
There was so much talk about how Aberdeen can’t win enough games after the split to turn it round and I think we all started believing/hoping that. As it is they’ve got 7/9 (thankfully Griffiths got that last minute goal last week) and have put themselves in a position to pull the 7 points back on us with 1 to play despite barely scoring a goal between January and April.
It should never have got to this.
Spike Mandela
02-05-2021, 08:05 AM
Before we won the cup in 2016 we lost in the play offs to Falkirk. Yes, THAT Falkirk:greengrin We had also contrived that season to lose the league cup final to Ross County.
Nothing is ever easy or predetermined fate in the football universe. In the 3 or, hopefully, 4 matches left this season anything could happen. We could end up 3rd and Scottish cup winners, 4th and losing semi finalists or any combination of results inbetween.
I say buckle up and enjoy the ride. Football is frustrating but it can be f***ing brilliant as well.:thumbsup:
Crunchie
02-05-2021, 08:30 AM
Before we won the cup in 2016 we lost in the play offs to Falkirk. Yes, THAT Falkirk:greengrin We had also contrived that season to lose the league cup final to Ross County.
Nothing is ever easy or predetermined fate in the football universe. In the 3 or, hopefully, 4 matches left this season anything could happen. We could end up 3rd and Scottish cup winners, 4th and losing semi finalists or any combination of results inbetween.
I say buckle up and enjoy the ride. Football is frustrating but it can be f***ing brilliant as well.:thumbsup:
:top marks
Keith_M
02-05-2021, 08:41 AM
...
We’re never great against Aberdeen ...
Except the last time we played them, when we won 2-0
:wink:
rossevenil
02-05-2021, 10:52 AM
Hopefully the stickybuns are still holding onto their unbeaten league campaign going into the game against the Sheep,that is the game I fear which will determine if we fall over or fall short of finishing 3rd as after watching yesterdays performance I struggle to see
us doing much against the plastics or sheep,then again at least 1 of those is away from home !
Ronniekirk
02-05-2021, 11:02 AM
Except the last time we played them, when we won 2-0
:wink:
One of our best performances of the season ,and it will take a similiar performance like that to take something from dons game But we can’t afford more injuries should we get to the final so yesterday was the game to win especially given they had made 7 changes
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Heisenberg
02-05-2021, 01:03 PM
I can’t see Aberdeen being good enough to get a point at Ibrox.
JohnM1875
02-05-2021, 01:15 PM
I can’t see Aberdeen being good enough to get a point at Ibrox.
Same to be honest.
So providing we avoid two pumping over the next few games third will be ours.
H18 SFR
02-05-2021, 01:19 PM
Same to be honest.
So providing we avoid two pumping over the next few games third will be ours.
I think we will have a tinge of regret only securing third on goal difference. Obviously we’d take it!
Danderhall Hibs
02-05-2021, 01:20 PM
I can’t see Aberdeen being good enough to get a point at Ibrox.
We’ve been saying this for weeks now - they’ve taken 7 from 9 post split.
CallumLaidlaw
02-05-2021, 01:26 PM
We’ve been saying this for weeks now - they’ve taken 7 from 9 post split.
Rangers have won 18 out of 18 conceding 4 goals. Aberdeen lost 3-0 to Dundee Utd last week.
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Heisenberg
02-05-2021, 01:28 PM
We’ve been saying this for weeks now - they’ve taken 7 from 9 post split.
How many times have they played Rangers post split this season?
cabbageandribs1875
02-05-2021, 01:29 PM
Rangers have won 18 out of 18 conceding 4 goals. Aberdeen lost 3-0 to Dundee Utd last week.
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Aberdeen won 2-1 yesterday in the league at a tough venue
AliboyFC
02-05-2021, 01:38 PM
I'm confident we'll beat Aberdeen tbh.
SaulGoodman
02-05-2021, 01:40 PM
Aberdeen won 2-1 yesterday in the league at a tough venue
We beat Livi by the same scoreline at arguably a tougher venue for us this season.. Easter road 😂
Danderhall Hibs
02-05-2021, 01:40 PM
Rangers have won 18 out of 18 conceding 4 goals. Aberdeen lost 3-0 to Dundee Utd last week.
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They’ve not much left to play for though - I can see Aberdeen getting a point.
Danderhall Hibs
02-05-2021, 01:41 PM
How many times have they played Rangers post split this season?
Not played them yet mate - last game of the season when Rangers are already on the beach.
BonnieFitbaTeam
02-05-2021, 01:42 PM
For weeks I`ve been reading here that we were guaranteed third because Aberdeen would get nothing against Rangers and Celtic . Every year there are funny results at the end of the season with teams playing for very little dropping ponts to supposedly weaker teams who need the points ( Ross County at Tannadice for example ) . If we get to the last day hoping Rangers beat Aberdeen we`ll be struggling . I spent most of today`s game looking to see if Livi could get a point or more given that we never looked like scoring . If we draw at Pittodrie we should get third but if we lose even by one goal , it could be a difficult last day . If we`re in cup final , people will say it doesn`t matter but if we finish 4th and don`t win cup , this season will not be considered a success by many .
If we draw at Pittodrie we will get third. Unless there's a 10-goal swing of course. Even if we were to get pumped 5-0 by Celtc, which is possible I suppose but incredibly unlikely, the Dons would still have to win by five clear goals at Greyskull. Anyone fancy a slice of that action? No, thought not .
Heisenberg
02-05-2021, 01:48 PM
Not played them yet mate - last game of the season when Rangers are already on the beach.
Can’t see this Rangers side downing tools on the day they get the trophy. Comfortable 3-0 win.
Danderhall Hibs
02-05-2021, 01:49 PM
If we draw at Pittodrie we will get third. Unless there's a 10-goal swing of course. Even if we were to get pumped 5-0 by Celtc, which is possible I suppose but incredibly unlikely, the Dons would still have to win by five clear goals at Greyskull. Anyone fancy a slice of that action? No, thought not .
If we draw at pittodrie goal difference doesn’t come into it.
If we lose we need to keep the score down.
Danderhall Hibs
02-05-2021, 01:49 PM
Can’t see this Rangers side downing tools on the day they get the trophy. Comfortable 3-0 win.
They’re going for an unbeaten season so I hope you’re right but trophy day has a history of losses I think.
tamig
02-05-2021, 02:15 PM
If we draw at pittodrie goal difference doesn’t come into it.
If we lose we need to keep therefore down.
The difference is three points. If we draw against Aberdeen, it goes down to the last game and goal difference could come into it.
Danderhall Hibs
02-05-2021, 02:17 PM
The difference is three points. If we draw against Aberdeen, it goes down to the last game and goal difference could come into it.
Yeah but 10 goals is a fairly unrealistic swing. Mathematically possible but would be massive odds at the bookies.
cabbageandribs1875
02-05-2021, 02:19 PM
We beat Livi by the same scoreline at arguably a tougher venue for us this season.. Easter road 😂
:tee hee:
tamig
02-05-2021, 02:20 PM
Yeah but 10 goals is a fairly unrealistic swing. Mathematically possible but would be massive odds at the bookies.
Agreed its highly unlikely, but it could be decided on goal difference.
Ronniekirk
02-05-2021, 02:39 PM
Can’t see this Rangers side downing tools on the day they get the trophy. Comfortable 3-0 win.
I agree they will want to remain unbeaten but a few rangers fans feel they have downed tools since they win the league and haven’t been so convincing
So wouldn’t rule It out completely
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Moulin Yarns
02-05-2021, 02:41 PM
I agree they will want to remain unbeaten but a few rangers fans feel they have downed tools since they win the league and haven’t been so convincing
So wouldn’t rule It out completely
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Certainly weren't convincing today :wink:
Malthibby
02-05-2021, 03:07 PM
Certainly weren't convincing today :wink:
Gerard will want the unbeaten season & won't want Aberdeen spoiling the party after losing both cups...
GG
heretoday
02-05-2021, 03:16 PM
Win the cup again Hibs. Sod third place.
Wilson
02-05-2021, 04:16 PM
Win the cup again Hibs. Sod third place.
Our problem will be the disappointment if we fail in both. Neither is guaranteed so set our standards high and meet them. I'll take what that gets us.
Northernhibee
02-05-2021, 04:23 PM
Win the cup again Hibs. Sod third place.
Sod that. After such a good season we deserve to finish best of the rest. It’s only four games and we should aim for both.
Ronniekirk
02-05-2021, 05:29 PM
Certainly weren't convincing today :wink:
Just repeating the views of some Rangers fans Clearly they don’t have to be at Their best to best a poor Celtic Team
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ancient hibee
02-05-2021, 06:40 PM
The difference is three points. If we draw against Aberdeen, it goes down to the last game and goal difference could come into it.
What made yesterday so annoying was that a draw would have meant Aberdeen had to win both their games.Now a win and a draw would be enough if we take nothing from Celtic.
Onion
02-05-2021, 06:44 PM
What made yesterday so annoying was that a draw would have meant Aberdeen had to win both their games.Now a win and a draw would be enough if we take nothing from Celtic.
You were doing so well until this bit. No chance this current Celtic team will beat Hibs.
scoopyboy
02-05-2021, 06:48 PM
What made yesterday so annoying was that a draw would have meant Aberdeen had to win both their games.Now a win and a draw would be enough if we take nothing from Celtic.
A win and a draw wouldn't be enough...................................... if the draw was against Hibs. :greengrin
jacomo
02-05-2021, 06:59 PM
I can’t see Aberdeen being good enough to get a point at Ibrox.
The best news from the weekend is that the Rangers are still unbeaten and will be desperate to continue that run to the end. A 0-0 draw would suit them of course but I suspect they will be well up for the Dons game and at full strength.
Still... last day results are notoriously unpredictable. I really hope we aren’t relying on the Huns for a favour.
gbhibby
02-05-2021, 07:03 PM
Win the semi final and hope the players are brimming with confidence.
Need to treat the next three games as Cup finals and have the right attitude. I think a draw at Aberdeen will be enough but need to play for a win to end it there. Need to put in a performance against Celtic even if 3rd place is sorted as we need to build up momentum for the final.
Just get it done.
tamig
02-05-2021, 07:05 PM
The best news from the weekend is that the Rangers are still unbeaten and will be desperate to continue that run to the end. A 0-0 draw would suit them of course but I suspect they will be well up for the Dons game and at full strength.
Still... last day results are notoriously unpredictable. I really hope we aren’t relying on the Huns for a favour.
Its not just about the hun being unbeaten, they have a 100% home record and I’m sure they’ll want to keep that intact.
hibbysam
02-05-2021, 07:08 PM
Win the semi final and hope the players are brimming with confidence.
Need to treat the next three games as Cup finals and have the right attitude. I think a draw at Aberdeen will be enough but need to play for a win to end it there. Need to put in a performance against Celtic even if 3rd place is sorted as we need to build up momentum for the final.
Just get it done.
There isn’t a ‘think’ about a draw against Aberdeen being enough, that is enough and is certainly achievable. We should be looking to be back to our solid best defensively and get us over the line.
GreenCastle
02-05-2021, 07:20 PM
Just a reminder we haven’t beaten Aberdeen in Aberdeen since May 2nd 2012.
Hibees1973
02-05-2021, 07:21 PM
For anyone on this thread stating they are confident of Hibs claiming 3rd, it must only be based on us being 3 points ahead of Aberdeen with a superior goal difference with 2 games to go. Surely it cannot be based on yesterday's performance and our recent propensity of not turning up for big games. Proof is there that over the last couple of years we have lost a lot more big games than won them. Know there is some debate what is a big game, but really most of us know the games that really matter. For example, yesterday and the next two games. We are at the point where the winners and losers are decided. Hope we are not the losers yet again.
I feel the semi final next week will be pivotal on how we perform against Aberdeen. A win on Saturday would give the team and Ross a bit more breathing space and another opportunity of winning a trophy.
Lose on Saturday would heap huge pressure on everyone at the club to finish 3rd and all those 'bootle jobs' comments would come to the fore again. For Hibs not to win a cup this season given the last 4 teams in the last League Cup semi finals and next weekend's Scottish Cup semi finals would really be criminal.
I for one cannot count on Aberdeen not getting more points than us on the last day of the season. I may sound negative but much as Hibs finishing 3rd is a relatively good achievement, if we do not win the cup I would reflect on this season as a huge missed opportunity of winning a trophy.
In European terms, if we do not win the cup, is there any real difference between finishing 3rd or 4th.
I will be watching the next two games through my fingers, hoping not to be let down again.
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hibbysam
02-05-2021, 07:27 PM
For anyone on this thread stating they are confident of Hibs claiming 3rd, it must only be based on us being 3 points ahead of Aberdeen with a superior goal difference with 2 games to go. Surely it cannot be based on yesterday's performance and our recent propensity of not turning up for big games. Proof is there that over the last couple of years we have lost a lot more big games than won them. Know there is some debate what is a big game, but really most of us know the games that really matter. For example, yesterday and the next two games. We are at the point where the winners and losers are decided. Hope we are not the losers yet again.
I feel the semi final next week will be pivotal on how we perform against Aberdeen. A win on Saturday would give the team and Ross a bit more breathing space and another opportunity of winning a trophy.
Lose on Saturday would heap huge pressure on everyone at the club to finish 3rd and all those 'bootle jobs' comments would come to the fore again. For Hibs not to win a cup this season given the last 4 teams in the last League Cup semi finals and next weekend's Scottish Cup semi finals would really be criminal.
I for one cannot count on Aberdeen not getting more points than us on the last day of the season. I may sound negative but much as Hibs finishing 3rd is a relatively good achievement, if we do not win the cup I would reflect on this season as a huge missed opportunity of winning a trophy.
In European terms, if we do not win the cup, is there any real difference between finishing 3rd or 4th.
I will be watching the next two games through my fingers, hoping not to be let down again.
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So yesterday was a big game, as is next week, but last week for example wasn’t? Livi wasn’t? Even though they put us in this position?
And your first part about the confidence coming from being 3 points clear, with 6 to play for, and a huge goal difference swing, with Aberdeen still having to beat us, and then get something at a place no other side has got something this year, why wouldn’t that make us confident?
BonnieFitbaTeam
02-05-2021, 07:39 PM
Yeah but 10 goals is a fairly unrealistic swing. Mathematically possible but would be massive odds at the bookies.
Which is exactly what I said...
Ronniekirk
02-05-2021, 07:49 PM
Just a reminder we haven’t beaten Aberdeen in Aberdeen since May 2nd 2012.
And we hadn’t beaten st Johnston at home since around that time
Let’s hope our away form sees a performance that gives us the point needed
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Danderhall Hibs
02-05-2021, 07:53 PM
Which is exactly what I said...
It was. And I agree.
gbhibby
02-05-2021, 07:57 PM
There isn’t a ‘think’ about a draw against Aberdeen being enough, that is enough and is certainly achievable. We should be looking to be back to our solid best defensively and get us over the line.
A draw is enough but my point is that we should no go there with that attitude need to build up momentum if we beat Dundee Utd. Should have put 3rd place to bed weeks ago. Don't know what the problem is playing at home. Jack Ross will be judged on what happens in the next few weeks.
danhibees1875
03-05-2021, 07:02 AM
Hibs 0 - 2 saints
Livi 0 - 2 Aberdeen
Aberdeen 3 - 0 Hibs
Hibs 0 - 3 Celtic
Rangers 1 - 0 Aberdeen
We avoided the 4 goal swing there at least, only the 2... :panic:
We just need to avoid a 4-0 pumping in Aberdeen then even without it being a cup final we can all support rangers on the final day - that's the dream. :wink:
I think we'll draw up in pittodrie and that'll be it.
Tambo
03-05-2021, 05:21 PM
Definitely making hard work of this now to secure 3rd, like some said a draw will be good enough even a 1-0 defeat pittodrie could still secure it as really can’t see them getting anything at ibrox and can’t see rangers lying down to the sheep.
Not the way I want to see it though.
IberianHibernian
03-05-2021, 09:13 PM
Definitely making hard work of this now to secure 3rd, like some said a draw will be good enough even a 1-0 defeat pittodrie could still secure it as really can’t see them getting anything at ibrox and can’t see rangers lying down to the sheep.
Not the way I want to see it though.Don`t think we can depend on Aberdeen losing last match . If we lose at Pittodrie we`ll have to plan game v Celtic assuming we need a win . And that won`t be any different if we win semi as 3rd will still be important .
basehibby
03-05-2021, 09:57 PM
I feel fairly confident of getting to the cup final and of getting a point vs Aberdeen to secure 3rd (talking relatively here - this IS Hibs we're talking about).
If we meet St Johnstone in the semi though we will have to box very clever indeed as they seem to be the team in the league best capable of stopping us scoring right now and have enough up top to have a good chance of sneaking one against us. I think if we do meet St Js in the final our defending will be key and we may have to be very patient. As I've said on another thread I'll keep my fingers crossed for the other Saintees winning through to Hampden as our strengths in attack seem to work better against them.
cabbageandribs1875
03-05-2021, 09:59 PM
i'm thinking we will get at least a point at Todders
:worried:
hibbysam
04-05-2021, 06:41 AM
Don`t think we can depend on Aberdeen losing last match . If we lose at Pittodrie we`ll have to plan game v Celtic assuming we need a win . And that won`t be any different if we win semi as 3rd will still be important .
If we win at the weekend then I’m afraid for me every single bit of energy needs to go into the cup final, and if that means resting boys so be it. Would be far and away the biggest game of the three.
green day
04-05-2021, 07:12 AM
Bizarre stuff.
Imagine if St Mirren won the cup and didnt get that Euro spot....................
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7057498/st-mirren-refused-licence-europe-3m-scottish-cup-windfall/
Eyrie
04-05-2021, 06:19 PM
Bizarre stuff.
Imagine if St Mirren won the cup and didnt get that Euro spot....................
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7057498/st-mirren-refused-licence-europe-3m-scottish-cup-windfall/
They did away with the runner up getting the European place a few years ago, so presumably the Europa League place would go to third in the table.
Could be interesting, but I'd prefer to avoid any uncertainty by winning the cup.
wallpaperman
12-05-2021, 09:36 PM
Feels like an age ago I started this thread.
Mission finally accomplished. :thumbsup::flag:
AliboyFC
12-05-2021, 09:42 PM
Feels like an age ago I started this thread.
Mission finally accomplished. :thumbsup::flag:
:flag::hibees:flag:
The Spaceman
12-05-2021, 09:52 PM
Mission complete. I would have been happy with fourth this season in all honesty. Third, three semi finals with the latest leading to an exciting Scottish Cup Final is outstanding work. Massive credit to everyone at the club 💚
Callyballybe
12-05-2021, 10:21 PM
Brilliant to have 3rd secured with a week and a half still to go until the final. Credit to Jack Ross and team. 👍🇳🇬
mayo hibee
15-05-2021, 01:20 PM
Third place with seven points to spare in the end. And 15 goals of a goal difference advantage also.
Only team outside of the Glasgow two with a positive goal difference for the season, and a comfortably positive goal difference at that.
The third best team in the league by a mile. Fantastic effort from Ross and the team.
Oscar T Grouch
16-05-2021, 06:53 PM
Seen this estimation of the prize breakdown for this season on Twitter. 3rd (£2.475m) place getting £300k more than 4th(£2.175), if these figures are close to reality it's a good return for a good league season. Show's how important getting 3rd was.
https://twitter.com/SPFLWatch/status/1393953892531163143
Northernhibee
16-05-2021, 09:52 PM
Third place with seven points to spare in the end. And 15 goals of a goal difference advantage also.
Only team outside of the Glasgow two with a positive goal difference for the season, and a comfortably positive goal difference at that.
The third best team in the league by a mile. Fantastic effort from Ross and the team.
There’s no arguing that it’s been an excellent season. Credit to all the footballing department at the club from manager to scouts to players to kitman. Fantastic.
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