Celtic away moved to Monday night/Celtic player tests positive

[Carheenlea]

Maybe feeling an obligation to get the apology in and out the way ahead of the next round of test results.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Maybe feeling an obligation to get the apology in and out the way ahead of the next round of test results.

They needed to retest today. Interesting to see Friday mornings statement

[Radium]

A 4 minute video apology from Lawell on Celtic website

Summarised (satirised) version

https://twitter.com/pieandbov/status/1349420773027540994?s=21


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[Chorley Hibee]

Lawell claiming Covid has affected Celtic more than any other club.

Laughable.

[WoreTheGreen]

Wee Lenny on a sun lounger what sun factor would he apply - 21

[McSwanky]

Celtic chief exec Peter Lawwell on club’s controversial trip to Dubai: “On reflection..clearly it was a mistake and for that I profusely apologise to our supporters.” https://t.co/cLGfBaW0QXHe can **** right off with that 'apology'. What a grade A ****.

[Andy74]

No much of an apology really. Apologised to their supporters, that’s it. And also managed to get comment in about some of the criticism being unfair.

One of those ‘sorry we got caught’ apologies.

[DH1875]

How have they suffered more than anyone? Think hearts might have something to say about that :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

One of those ‘sorry we got caught’ apologies.

Sounds like a sorry but we were right all along apology. Arrogance off the scale found it difficult not to come out with a loud profanity when Sky showed him on Monday just after they scored was absolutely delighted we then scored in injury time. :greengrin

[Chorley Hibee]

One of those ‘sorry we got caught’ apologies.

My thoughts too, one of the "I'm sorry you're offended" type 'apologies' that are so popular at present

[Brizo]

My thoughts too, one of the "I'm sorry you're offended" type 'apologies' that are so popular at present

:agree:

"Sorry not sorry" as I think the young folk say?

Lawell sorry that the self proclaimed TGFITW have turned against Celtc and sorry about the impact it could have on Season Ticket sales

[Since452]

Apologising to Celtic supporters only is a piss take. What about putting another clubs players and staff and their families at risk? What about refusing that clubs request of a further test? What about an apology to people up and down the country who are sacrificing while Celtic players sip pints by the pool while they are supposedly on an elite training camp? It will be a long time before I forget the way they've acted.

Lawwell can get himself to ****.

[neil7908]

Apologising to Celtic supporters only is a piss take. What about putting another clubs players and staff and their families at risk? What about refusing that clubs request of a further test? What about an apology to people up and down the country who are sacrificing while Celtic players sip pints by the pool while they are supposedly on an elite training camp? It will be a long time before I forget the way they've acted.

Lawwell can get himself to ****.

This. Utterly pathetic.

[Magpie]

Lawell claiming Covid has affected Celtic more than any other club.

Laughable.

Getting the excuses in already for a ****show of a season.

[04Sauzee]

Celtic have put their under-18 academy players on the government furlough scheme. Full story in today’s @ScotMailSport

[scoopyboy]

No intention of reading the w****** statement, were Hibs included in his apology?

[Barney McGrew]

No intention of reading the w****** statement, were Hibs included in his apology?

No one apart from Celtic were mentioned

[Siralbertkidd]

Apologising to Celtic supporters only is a piss take. What about putting another clubs players and staff and their families at risk? What about refusing that clubs request of a further test? What about an apology to people up and down the country who are sacrificing while Celtic players sip pints by the pool while they are supposedly on an elite training camp? It will be a long time before I forget the way they've acted.

Lawwell can get himself to ****.

Spot on with this. Where is the apology to Scottish Government for lying? Apology to Scottish League for breaking protocols (and lying again)? Its nothing like a genuine apology!!!

[we are hibs]

Celtic have put their under-18 academy players on the government furlough scheme. Full story in today’s @ScotMailSport

Can afford a trip to Dubai though. Lets see if the west coast media spin it like they did when we were apparently out of order for spending transfer fees in the summer while asking the players to defer their wages.

[Siralbertkidd]

Celtic have put their under-18 academy players on the government furlough scheme. Full story in today’s @ScotMailSport

But spent estimated £200k on a jolly? Just ******g WOW!

[Kato]

Celtic coming across as arrogant, self obsessed weirdos, shock.

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[scoopyboy]

No one apart from Celtic were mentioned

I should have guessed Barney.

[Carheenlea]

Lawell claiming Covid has affected Celtic more than any other club.

Laughable.

Still not sure on what basis Lawell is using here to make such a claim?

Just a soundbite to fish some of the supporters back onside. He’ll have known that playing the victim card is always gleefully lapped up.

[Barney McGrew]

I should have guessed Barney.

Not only are no others teams mentioned, but Celtic were apparently the hardest hit club out of everyone by Covid.

Incredible.

[Chorley Hibee]

But spent estimated £200k on a jolly? Just ******g WOW!

A club like no other I believe they say.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Not only are no others teams mentioned, but Celtic were apparently the hardest hit club out of everyone by Covid.

Incredible.

That’s brilliant. Hearts, Partick etc will be even more raging 😂

[hibsforeurope]

Maybe feeling an obligation to get the apology in and out the way ahead of the next round of test results.

My worry is what the Hibs test result bring up, i really hope this game doesn't impact on us any more than it already did.

[Since452]

But spent estimated £200k on a jolly? Just ******g WOW!

Disgusting to be honest

[bringbackbenny]

Lawell claiming Covid has affected Celtic more than any other club.

Laughable.

He's trolling HMFC big style 🤣

[Brightside]

Celtic have put their under-18 academy players on the government furlough scheme. Full story in today’s @ScotMailSport

They have millions in the bank.....

[Jones28]

Celtic are fast becoming the America of Scottish football: flailing about while making absurd statements that make no apologies to anyone.

I suppose at least America has hope of someone changing things in the near future :greengrin

[jacomo]

No intention of reading the w****** statement, were Hibs included in his apology?


What do you think?

[where'stheslope]

That’s brilliant. Hearts, Partick etc will be even more raging 😂
Partick will be doubly aggrieved as there league has been shut down by the SPFL, for what looks like a sympathy vote to the Scottish Government that they are doing what they can!!!!!

[Highwayman]

We slamming Lawell and Celtic from the outside will have no effect on them.They are so self centred and arrogant it’s like firing a peashooter at the Forth Rail Bridge.What should worry them more were the views of the Celtic podcaster Paul John Dykes on Sportsound last night.He absolutely slammed Lawell and the board for this latest fiasco in what has been a season of one bad decision after another.
He says the majority of Celtic supporters want radical changes to board and management.Doubt whether any changes would radically affect the DNA of this club.

[jacomo]

We slamming Lawell and Celtic from the outside will have no effect on them.They are so self centred and arrogant it’s like firing a peashooter at the Forth Rail Bridge.What should worry them more were the views of the Celtic podcaster Paul John Dykes on Sportsound last night.He absolutely slammed Lawell and the board for this latest fiasco in what has been a season of one bad decision after another.
He says the majority of Celtic supporters want radical changes to board and management.Doubt whether any changes would radically affect the DNA of this club.


No but it’s funny to see their hubris and arrogance coming back to bite them.

Rod Petrie will be amused.

[scoopyboy]

What do you think?

No, cause I got the answer at 9.21am :greengrin

[jacomo]

No, cause I got the answer at 9.21am :greengrin


As if you needed it.

You could bet your mortgage on Lawwell failing to show any genuine remorse.

[scoopyboy]

As if you needed it.

You could bet your mortgage on Lawwell failing to show any genuine remorse.

I would have guessed correctly.

From what I can make out from others on here it was nothing more than a token gesture.

[Lendo]

They have millions in the bank.....

I’m sure their last account had something like £30m in available funds.

[gbhibby]

I’m sure their last account had something like £30m in available funds.
The furlough scheme is not means tested unlike the help for the self employed. They are once again exploiting the rules. As PR exercises go Celtic FC are up there with Gerald Ratner.

[Peevemor]

I know I'm going to get pelters again, but the furlough scheme is there for all affected employees. Celtic have as much right to use it as anyone else.

I'm sure there are plenty other cash rich businesses who have used such schemes throughout Britain and the rest of the world without the same levels of outrage being shown on here. I don't see the problem.

(OK here we go!...)

[Since452]

What an absolute cluster**** of a season for that lot. Complete disaster. One mistake after another.

They aren't great on the park either.

[marinello59]

I know I'm going to get pelters again, but the furlough scheme is there for all affected employees. Celtic have as much right to use it as anyone else.

I'm sure there are plenty other cash rich businesses who have used such schemes throughout Britain and the rest of the world without the same levels of outrage being shown on here. I don't see the problem.

(OK here we go!...)

You old Tory you. :greengrin

[gbhibby]

I know I'm going to get pelters again, but the furlough scheme is there for all affected employees. Celtic have as much right to use it as anyone else.

I'm sure there are plenty other cash rich businesses who have used such schemes throughout Britain and the rest of the world without the same levels of outrage being shown on here. I don't see the problem.

(OK here we go!...)
Is that you agreeing with me?

[Peevemor]

Is that you agreeing with me?

Possibly.

[gbhibby]

Possibly.
C,Mon its only a 3 letter word. I will say yes I agree with what you said in your post so you will get no pelters from me., 😁😁😁

[silverhibee]

Possibly.

Hiya Matt :wink:

[Peevemor]

C,Mon its only a 3 letter word. I will say yes I agree with what you said in your post so you will get no pelters from me., ������

I said possibly because I don't know if I'm agreeing with you. You mention "once again exploiting the rules" which puts a negative slant on your post.

If you had said exactly the same thing as me then I would have agreed no problem.

From virtual unknowns to the best of friends, people can disagree on some things but agree on others. In fact if I met someone who is 100% in agreement with me on everything, it would probably freak me out and I'd try to avoid them.

[gbhibby]

I said possibly because I don't know if I'm agreeing with you. You mention "once again exploiting the rules" which puts a negative slant on your post.

If you had said exactly the same thing as me then I would have agreed no problem.

From virtual unknowns to the best of friends, people can disagree on some things but agree on others. In fact if I met someone who is 100% in agreement with me on everything, it would probably freak me out and I'd try to avoid them.
I did not mean to put a negative slant on the post. I chose to use exploiting whilst what they are doing is what a lot of cash rich companies are doing my choice of the word was questioning the morality of what they are doing. Celtic as a club like to give the impression that they always take the moral high ground.

[hibbyfraelibby]

You old Tory you. :greengrin

Is that spelt with a C an N a T and a vowel which is not A, E, I or O...and not necessarily in that order?

[04Sauzee]

Raith Rovers have an outbreak

Club Update: COVID-19
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Thursday January 14th 2021
The club is currently dealing with an outbreak of COVID-19 amongst the playing and backroom staff.

We have applied to the SPFL for postponement of this Saturday’s match v Inverness Caledonian Thistle, and are awaiting a response.

In the meantime, we are co-operating fully with the appropriate authorities.

Further updates will follow

[Eyrie]

The only reason that the Celtc support are upset about this is because they're 21 points behind Sevco.

If they were 21 points ahead they'd be backing Lawwell all the way.

[04Sauzee]

Keith Jackson so it's obviously true tweets

EXCLUSIVE! Neil Doncaster refuses to rule out null and void as Rangers sit 21 points ahead of Celtic | @tedermeatballs

https://t.co/g2wclvKvpE https://t.co/f0JV11sMFS

[Peevemor]

Keith Jackson so it's obviously true tweets

EXCLUSIVE! Neil Doncaster refuses to rule out null and void as Rangers sit 21 points ahead of Celtic | @tedermeatballs

https://t.co/g2wclvKvpE https://t.co/f0JV11sMFSHe can't rule out anything as it's the clubs who decide.

[Phil MaGlass]

Keith Jackson so it's obviously true tweets

EXCLUSIVE! Neil Doncaster refuses to rule out null and void as Rangers sit 21 points ahead of Celtic | @tedermeatballs

https://t.co/g2wclvKvpE https://t.co/f0JV11sMFS

Oh wouldn't it be good if the clubs could decide, :greengrin what a mess there would be:agree:

[hibbysam]

He can't rule out anything as it's the clubs who decide.

Didn’t him and his board rule out a number of options last year when the clubs put it to them? Sure part of the fiasco was they decided that certain things like null and void weren’t feasible so left them off the ballot paper.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Didn’t him and his board rule out a number of options last year when the clubs put it to them? Sure part of the fiasco was they decided that certain things like null and void weren’t feasible so left them off the ballot paper.

I don’t think they can ignore things like that - they can explain why null and void would cost the clubs money but not just ignore.

Of course the clubs are happy for the SPFL to take the blame for stuff like this - presumably that’s why they pay Doncaster such a high salary.

[Peevemor]

Didn’t him and his board rule out a number of options last year when the clubs put it to them? Sure part of the fiasco was they decided that certain things like null and void weren’t feasible so left them off the ballot paper.


I don’t think they can ignore things like that - they can explain why null and void would cost the clubs money but not just ignore.

Of course the clubs are happy for the SPFL to take the blame for stuff like this - presumably that’s why they pay Doncaster such a high salary.

As far as I remember, because of the exceptional circumstances, the board could have taken the reins in March/April last year and decided to "call" the keagues. It was the board's decision to put it to a vote of the clubs.

At the beginning of this season the board asked the clubs to give them the power to decide what would happen to the leagues under certain circumstances (this would already have been in place), but the clubs voted against.

As it stands nobody knows what will happen.

[neil7908]

Doncaster with his usual verbal diarrhoea:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6536408/celtic-hibs-spfl-postponement-doncaster/

[jacomo]

I would have guessed correctly.

From what I can make out from others on here it was nothing more than a token gesture.


What he said:

“In hindsight Dubai was a mistake but Celtc has values and integrity and everyone needs to come together and we’ve been affected by Covid more than any other club” yadda yadda

What he meant:

I’m surprisingly thin skinned and I take this criticism personally. Whenever we make a mistake it’s never my fault, if anything I’m the biggest victim here. Stop criticising me, I’m not listening anyway and I’m pretty special.

[Peevemor]

Doncaster with his usual verbal diarrhoea:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6536408/celtic-hibs-spfl-postponement-doncaster/


I think he talks perfect sense there. He explains why things happened the way they did.

I suppose he could have said anything and been criticised.

[blackpoolhibs]

Doncaster with his usual verbal diarrhoea:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6536408/celtic-hibs-spfl-postponement-doncaster/

To be fair, I preferred Barry from Eastenders video. :faf:

[Northernhibee]

“ Doncaster said: “If you start allowing individual clubs to decide if they are going to fulfil a fixture then that’s where madness lies.”

Celtic were allowed to not fulfil the original date and reschedule to allow for a wee jolly and piss up in Dubai. Yet a club wanting to ensure the safety of their players is “madness”.

[McSwanky]

To be fair, I preferred Barry from Eastenders video. :faf:

That was so terrible and so good at the same time!

[Peevemor]

“ Doncaster said: “If you start allowing individual clubs to decide if they are going to fulfil a fixture then that’s where madness lies.”

Celtic were allowed to not fulfil the original date and reschedule to allow for a wee jolly and piss up in Dubai. Yet a club wanting to ensure the safety of their players is “madness”.

He also explains

"Hibs were already raging the original date for the Celtic match was put back 48 hours to allow Neil Lennon to take his squad to Dubai.


Doncaster said: “I had various conversations with Hibernian around that time. It’s for the club to take their own view on what happened.


“But we have to recall it was a Celtic home game we were talking about. Just as last weekend we had a Livingston home game which they requested be rescheduled.


“We agreed that request without reference to Ross County. So we have to apply the rules fairly and evenly to all.”"

[JimBHibees]

He also explains

"Hibs were already raging the original date for the Celtic match was put back 48 hours to allow Neil Lennon to take his squad to Dubai.


Doncaster said: “I had various conversations with Hibernian around that time. It’s for the club to take their own view on what happened.


“But we have to recall it was a Celtic home game we were talking about. Just as last weekend we had a Livingston home game which they requested be rescheduled.


“We agreed that request without reference to Ross County. So we have to apply the rules fairly and evenly to all.”"

So he is saying a Hibs would be able to move any Saturday home game to a Monday if for example we had a player struggling with injury and might play on the rearranged date. Does without reference to Ross county mean not communicating with them?

[Peevemor]

So he is saying a Hibs would be able to move any Saturday home game to a Monday if for example we had a player struggling with injury and might play on the rearranged date. Does without reference to Ross county mean not communicating with them?

I don't know how it works, but I'd imagine there would have to be minimum notice - maybe 3-4 weeks or something? :dunno:

It's probably what happens when Hibs & Hearts are both drawn at home or if a class A match clashes with the rugby at Murrayfield.

And it certainly sounds like they didn't consult Ross County.

[hibbysam]

As far as I remember, because of the exceptional circumstances, the board could have taken the reins in March/April last year and decided to "call" the keagues. It was the board's decision to put it to a vote of the clubs.

At the beginning of this season the board asked the clubs to give them the power to decide what would happen to the leagues under certain circumstances (this would already have been in place), but the clubs voted against.

As it stands nobody knows what will happen.

IIRC Rangers put forward a motion, which Doncaster and McLennan threw out as they didn’t see it as being viable financially. I’ve no idea the ins and outs of it all, but that part sticks in my mind. The situation now is no different to what it was back then, the clubs essentially have the final say, but the board can propose whatever they want and dismiss what they want.

[04Sauzee]

Scottish FA chief executive Ian Maxwell has written to all 10 Championship clubs asking if they want to continue playing or suspend their league.

https://t.co/e1j9gev4bF https://t.co/LPQXepE7dq

[Lancs Harp]

Scottish FA chief executive Ian Maxwell has written to all 10 Championship clubs asking if they want to continue playing or suspend their league.

https://t.co/e1j9gev4bF https://t.co/LPQXepE7dq

Hearts, naturally, to be relegated to league one.

[Del Boy]

Play out the premiership with no relegation and void the lower leagues?

[mayo hibee]

Play out the premiership with no relegation and void the lower leagues?

Null and void. No other option, only 10 games played.

[Barney McGrew]

The absolute banter if the Championship got cancelled and Hertz stayed down another season, while the Premiership continued and we qualified for Europe would be side splitting.

Especially if the League Cup still carried on because it’s only got Premiership teams left in it and we ended up winning the final.

They’d explode :hilarious

[PaulSmith]

The absolute banter if the Championship got cancelled and Hertz stayed down another season, while the Premiership continued and we qualified for Europe would be side splitting.

Especially if the League Cup still carried on because it’s only got Premiership teams left in it and we ended up winning the final.

They’d explode :hilarious

My sides would explode first!

[PaulSmith]

I think he talks perfect sense there. He explains why things happened the way they did.

I suppose he could have said anything and been criticised.


Do I think that Doncaster does a good job of promoting Scottish Football and getting additional income, absolutely not.


Do I think that he applies the rules agreed by all the member clubs, yes he does and I'd go as far as saying that he's applies them without fear or favour.

Celtic moving the game is within the rules of the SPFL, the rules don't state that you can't do it for a jolly to Dubai. It simply says that you can move a home game by (probably) meeting certain criteria. Hibs would be well aware of this and they'd be well aware of the covid testing protocol, they were absolutely within their rights to ask and morally it was the right thing to do. But equally the SPFL looked at the rules and as soon as Celtic said no there wasn't any other avenue that wouldn't have serious implications to Hibs...Celtic probably knew that and hoped that Hibs would forfeit the fixture.

[hibbysam]

Do I think that Doncaster does a good job of promoting Scottish Football and getting additional income, absolutely not.


Do I think that he applies the rules agreed by all the member clubs, yes he does and I'd go as far as saying that he's applies them without fear or favour.

Celtic moving the game is within the rules of the SPFL, the rules don't state that you can't do it for a jolly to Dubai. It simply says that you can move a home game by (probably) meeting certain criteria. Hibs would be well aware of this and they'd be well aware of the covid testing protocol, they were absolutely within their rights to ask and morally it was the right thing to do. But equally the SPFL looked at the rules and as soon as Celtic said no there wasn't any other avenue that wouldn't have serious implications to Hibs...Celtic probably knew that and hoped that Hibs would forfeit the fixture.

It’s not in the rules that a home side can move any game. It goes to the board to approve any requests, supposedly a gentleman’s agreement that what the home side says goes, but that doesn’t sit right. The board is there to serve all clubs, listen to all views, and make decisions based on facts.

The request doesn’t have to be approved though. And I’d expect them to use their noggin and reject said request to ensure that all games that Celtic are behind are caught up at the earliest opportunity, especially this year, where there is a very real possibility of a curtailed season again.

[Peevemor]

It’s not in the rules that a home side can move any game. It goes to the board to approve any requests, supposedly a gentleman’s agreement that what the home side says goes, but that doesn’t sit right. The board is there to serve all clubs, listen to all views, and make decisions based on facts.

The request doesn’t have to be approved though. And I’d expect them to use their noggin and reject said request to ensure that all games that Celtic are behind are caught up at the earliest opportunity, especially this year, where there is a very real possibility of a curtailed season again.You expect them to do a lot of things. You also say that they should do or should have done a lot of things. They didn't and they stuck by the rules.

Unfortunately for you, you don't run the SPFL. There's no point in banging on about this stuff.

[gbhibby]

Our next game against Celtic should be at home so we should request a change of date just to annoy them.

[hibbysam]

You expect them to do a lot of things. You also say that they should do or should have done a lot of things. They didn't and they stuck by the rules.

Unfortunately for you, you don't run the SPFL. There's no point in banging on about this stuff.

They’d also be sticking by the rules by refusing to move the game. Contrary to yours, and the previous posters thoughts, there is no such rule which guarantees a home team leverage to automatically move a game of football. It requires board approval. Mr Doncaster is talking about a fictional 75% of games completion as a threshold for a season, when he’s the one stopping teams catching up on games.

You’re right, on a day when they’ve had two more monumental **** ups, we shouldn’t talk about things on a fans forum. The tribunal handed them their first defeat, and the fact they’re now asking championship clubs about a break (stating a club has gone public in backing a full stoppage when no club has done so, a day after stating the championship is imperative to commercial contracts and giving the clubs an option where they never gave the league 1 and 2 clubs the same luxury).

[Eyrie]

Our next game against Celtic should be at home so we should request a change of date just to annoy them.

I'd do that, but it would be a waste of time.

Celtc would object and this time the objection would be upheld. That would be further evidence of the Ugly Sisters being favoured over the football clubs but, as with all the other evidence, nothing will happen.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Our next game against Celtic should be at home so we should request a change of date just to annoy them.

It’ll no doubt be on tv so won’t be an SPFL or Hibs decision.

[Peevemor]

I'd do that, but it would be a waste of time.

Celtc would object and this time the objection would be upheld. That would be further evidence of the Ugly Sisters being favoured over the football clubs but, as with all the other evidence, nothing will happen.https://youtu.be/hjEwCWN9-gc

[Ronniekirk]

Howe to Celtic y end of next week and Big Boardroom changes
Any one else hearing this

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