US Presidential Elections 2020

[RyeSloan]

I’m sure it’s been brought up before but I’ve not been following the thread, but why is there not a deadline for postal votes so they can be counted on election night like they are here? Seems mad that there’s such a delay in the results coming in because of it.

Quite a number of states have laws saying a postal vote with a post mark up to and including the Election Day are legal votes. So they are effectively still receiving postal votes after the election.

Then some have laws that say they can’t count postals until after the day itself (I assume so no news leaks on who is winning or losing on those votes)

It’s always been this way in many of the states....the Trump whining about it like it’s something special just for him is just pathetic.

But hey no one expected anything more from him and he certainly hasn’t disappointed on that front.

[bigwheel]

I’m sure it’s been brought up before but I’ve not been following the thread, but why is there not a deadline for postal votes so they can be counted on election night like they are here? Seems mad that there’s such a delay in the results coming in because of it.

Two things ..many states have a deadline on the day of the election ..secondly a number of states don’t count the mail votes until after the election day - Some because they were compelled to delay due to court cases by trump & co.

[Bristolhibby]

In Pennsylvania Republicans refused to allow counting of the postal votes until after election day. A cynic might say it was part of a Republican plot for Trump to build up a lead from election day votes (mostly Republican) and then cry foul when his lead disappeared with the postal votes (mostly Democratic).

That’s exactly what happened.

J

[Ozyhibby]

They also have a lot more security measures in place than we do. Each ballot involve opening three envelopes and checking of signatures. It just takes a lot of time.


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[EH6 Hibby]

Thanks everyone. Actually watching the last leg who have just explained it all too. Should have waited before asking. :greengrin

[EH6 Hibby]

They also have a lot more security measures in place than we do. Each ballot involve opening three envelopes and checking of signatures. It just takes a lot of time.


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I’ve opened the postal votes here before and ours are pretty secure. There’s 2 envelopes, and they’re all ran through a machine which checks the numbers to confirm they’re genuine.

[Hibs Class]

And he’s £10k down from his wee bet.

J

Does anyone imagine he actually placed the bet? It struck me as his usual attention seeking nonsense, a meaningless gesture without any substance

[One Day Soon]

Their street celebrations aren't a patch on ours in 2016.

Same profound emotional feeling. I've just been sitting here smiling all night, watching scenes on CNN and feeling a really deep inner peace.

Pennsylvania was David Gray scoring the winner well into injury time.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Bannon is a total wrong un. Not sure why he’s so chirpy when he’s facing years in jail
for fraud. No doubt waiting on his Trump pardon. Horrible tw*t.



his lawyers asked the judge yesterday to postpone a hearing on monday as they've quit representing him after his calling for the beheadings :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

They also have a lot more security measures in place than we do. Each ballot involve opening three envelopes and checking of signatures. It just takes a lot of time.


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the same type of measures which we can only hope will be in place for indy2, baroness mooth shouldn't be allowed to count them

[Smartie]

Anyone else getting "key race alert" withdrawal symptoms?

[Glory Lurker]

Anyone else getting "key race alert" withdrawal symptoms?

:-) No chance!

[Future17]

Yes, a lot. Here is small bit of it, mainly to do with the figures

.https://theredelephants.com/there-is-undeniable-mathematical-evidence-the-election-is-being-stolen/

That isn't evidence of anything. It's supposition and supposition which doesn't make much sense considering what we know about voting in this election so far.

[Hibs90]

What happened in this election does not happen in any election at anytime.

I agree he has been setting this up for months. He knew the democrats plan, he has set a trap. He has the evidence.


Please tell me this is a wind up?

Please

:faf:

[Bostonhibby]

Please tell me this is a wind up?

Please

:faf:Nope, he took the precaution of hiding it all in his golf bag weeks ago so them nasty demographs couldn't hijack it.

That's why he went for a round of golf the same day as his country hit a new record high for Covid infections.

It's what statesmen do.

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[Smartie]

I have family (distant!!) who are Trump supporters.

They are liking and sharing every last thing on Facebook that goes along with the “election was rigged” narrative.

It still has a lot of backing amongst his base support, as preposterous as it is.

[Callum_62]

I believe the trump team are 0/9 on lawsuits so far

Quite a start, assuming they are just building the suspense before the plan is really put into motion

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[Tobias Funke]

Got a feeling the stream of lawsuits from the Trump team will be like Hearts doomed efforts to stay in the SPFL, and just as funny.

[Callum_62]

Got a feeling the stream of lawsuits from the Trump team will be like Hearts doomed efforts to stay in the SPFL, and just as funny.. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/c17907a9baf80f3204429a1efc6aec4e.jpg

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[Hibrandenburg]

. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/c17907a9baf80f3204429a1efc6aec4e.jpg

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:faf:

[Hibrandenburg]

Decent speech, **** load of cliches all banged together but at least in the right order. 20 levels above the Orange Man's tirades.

[Mon Dieu4]

Decent speech, **** load of cliches all banged together but at least in the right order. 20 levels above the Orange Man's tirades.

Yep, will go back to the way it was pre Trump with nothing much changing but all sounds good in these situations

[Callum_62]

Decent speech, **** load of cliches all banged together but at least in the right order. 20 levels above the Orange Man's tirades.It's quite odd to see someone who will be president be so.... Inclusive

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[Curried]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmPZUPKXMAAqYFY?format=jpg&name=medium

[hibsbollah]

I’m fascinated by how Rudy Giuliani ended up doing his press conference at Four Seasons landscaping in Philadelphia. Between a porn shop and a crematorium. Were they sent by mistake? Was Armando Ianucci involved? Are they mocking themselves?

The idea that this gang could possibly mount a multi state legal challenge against the count is ridiculous.

[marinello59]

Same profound emotional feeling. I've just been sitting here smiling all night, watching scenes on CNN and feeling a really deep inner peace.

Pennsylvania was David Gray scoring the winner well into injury time.

Yeap. This is one of those moments that will be remembered for years. Old fashioned common decency has won as it can and will do in this country.

[Hibrandenburg]

Yeap. This is one of those moments that will be remembered for years. Old fashioned common decency has won as it can and will do in this country.

Your word in dog's ear.

[Hibbyradge]

Your word in dog's ear.

I've never heard that expression before. What does it mean?

[Bostonhibby]

I’m fascinated by how Rudy Giuliani ended up doing his press conference at Four Seasons landscaping in Philadelphia. Between a porn shop and a crematorium. Were they sent by mistake? Was Armando Ianucci involved? Are they mocking themselves?

The idea that this gang could possibly mount a multi state legal challenge against the count is ridiculous.Here it ishttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/a06295dfa64dba81d1350a3cedb3d9b3.jpg

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[Hibs90]

Nope, he took the precaution of hiding it all in his golf bag weeks ago so them nasty demographs couldn't hijack it.

That's why he went for a round of golf the same day as his country hit a new record high for Covid infections.

It's what statesmen do.

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I was meaning the fact that people believe Trumps nonsense. He has brainwashed alot of people.

[Bostonhibby]

I was meaning the fact that people believe Trumps nonsense. He has brainwashed alot of people.[emoji106]

Maybe not coming across that well but I was agreeing with you and piling in on the irony as well.



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[Hibrandenburg]

I've never heard that expression before. What does it mean?

It means I hope his words come true and I'm a dyslexic atheist. :wink:

[Tobias Funke]

Here it ishttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/a06295dfa64dba81d1350a3cedb3d9b3.jpg

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Its staggering just how far Giuliani has fallen from grace. From the fearless and brilliant prosecutor, 9/11 hero mayor of New York to a gibbering, slavering Trump lackey who shows absolutely no shame while peddling falsehoods and conspiracy theories for the benefit of the dipsh*t lame duck president and his base. He’s a proper lunatic.

[Bostonhibby]

Its staggering just how far Giuliani has fallen from grace. From the fearless and brilliant prosecutor, 9/11 hero mayor of New York to a gibbering, slavering Trump lackey who shows absolutely no shame while peddling falsehoods and conspiracy theories for the benefit of the dipsh*t lame duck president and his base. He’s a proper lunatic.For sure, as the career politicians and staffers start to desert the sunk ship all that will be left is proper fruit bats and folk who are needing a pardon.

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[Hibs Class]

Anyone catch Trumps BIG press conference earlier?

It was at the four seasons

Not the hotel though

Four seasons total landscaping.

Right next to 'fantasy island'

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Donald Trump, the lawn order president :greengrin

(stolen from Facebook)

[Ozyhibby]

Its staggering just how far Giuliani has fallen from grace. From the fearless and brilliant prosecutor, 9/11 hero mayor of New York to a gibbering, slavering Trump lackey who shows absolutely no shame while peddling falsehoods and conspiracy theories for the benefit of the dipsh*t lame duck president and his base. He’s a proper lunatic.

He got the mood of 9/11 right but is generally thought to have been a **** mayor.


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[hibsbollah]

Here it ishttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/a06295dfa64dba81d1350a3cedb3d9b3.jpg

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He always wanted to be the lawn and order President.

[Kato]

What happened in this election does not happen in any election at anytime.

I agree he has been setting this up for months. He knew the democrats plan, he has set a trap. He has the evidence.I forgot about the actual answer to this type of grumbling.....

...ahem...


"You lost. Get over it!"

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[CapitalGreen]

I forgot about the actual answer to this type of grumbling.....

...ahem...


"You lost. Get over it!"

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmPTdBiU4AI-EXL?format=jpg&name=small

Reference for those who’ve not seen it - https://youtu.be/hn1VxaMEjRU

[MWHIBBIES]

There was considerably more fraud in the 2016 election than in this one.

[Callum_62]

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/11/us-election-donald-trump-to-face-civil-lawsuits-and-criminal-investigations-post-presidency.html

Fraud eh.

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[Northernhibee]

I get the feeling that what the last five or so years will be remembered for through both Brexit and Trump is that we tried to break the established order of running things, then learned some harsh lessons about doing so. Both Bannon and Cummings wanted to paint the EU/Obama as corrupt and not suitable for present purpose but as soon as they were forced to show their methods of runnings things it became clear that the alternative is much worse and that other than tearing things down they had no idea how to build them back up in their vision, leaving just a pile of smoke and rubble around us.

If we learn the lessons properly (and I don't for a second think we will) then the likes of Trump, Johnson etc. should be unelectable for a generation.

[Tobias Funke]

Some stories circulating that Melania will file for divorce once he’s left the WH. Hardly a shock if that happens, she looks like she can’t stand being within ten yards of him.

[Kato]

Some stories circulating that Melania will file for divorce once he’s left the WH. Hardly a shock if that happens, she looks like she can’t stand being within ten yards of him.Shame. Horrible to see a couple spilt up. Still, she'll have that seven figure book deal to fall back on and he can while away his dotage sewing mail bags or whatever. Hope it's a long, long dotage.

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[ACLeith]

Some stories circulating that Melania will file for divorce once he’s left the WH. Hardly a shock if that happens, she looks like she can’t stand being within ten yards of him.

Rape charges. Sexual assault. Grabbing pussies. Consensual porn stars. Take your pick. All allegedly just now of course.

[Keith_M]

Rape charges. Sexual assault. Grabbing pussies. Consensual porn stars. Take your pick. All allegedly just now of course.


Mrs Slocombe's court case is still pending.

[Bostonhibby]

Mrs Slocombe's court case is still pending.[emoji23][emoji23]

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[Vault Boy]

You can only imagine the stories Melania has about that maniac.

Unfortunately, even if they do divorce, I'd imagine there will be terms in their prenup which prevent Melania from speaking out against him. I read that he had similar legal terms with his last wife.

[Bostonhibby]

Rape charges. Sexual assault. Grabbing pussies. Consensual porn stars. Take your pick. All allegedly just now of course.She's still there so Donald must have something, I'm guessing it's the hairstyle, she loves brushing it then cementing it into place.

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[ACLeith]

Mrs Slocombe's court case is still pending.
👏👏

[ACLeith]

She's still there so Donald must have something,
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(Other folks) money ?

[Bostonhibby]

(Other folks) money ?Never in doubt.

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[Renfrew_Hibby]

Some stories circulating that Melania will file for divorce once he’s left the WH. Hardly a shock if that happens, she looks like she can’t stand being within ten yards of him.

She's probably been ****gin some secret service guy or pumpin a tennis coach for years. Maybe both.

[Hibs Class]

She's probably been ****gin some secret service guy or pumpin a tennis coach for years. Maybe both.

Hank Siemers. Allegedly.

[Callum_62]

Anyone have a wiff of hearts share issue with Romanov and the fund our legal case with Trump?

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[Bostonhibby]

Anyone have a wiff of hearts share issue with Romanov and the fund our legal case with Trump?

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkThere's no comparison, Trump wouldn't fit in a submarine and there's not a frogman suit big enough either.

On the other hand if you're talking soaking rednecks for suitcases full of money......

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[Tobias Funke]

Another half dozen or so Trump tweets flagged by Twitter as misleading. :rolleyes:

[DaveF]

Still counting in 4 states. I know it does not matter much but how the hell can it take so long.

[Rumble de Thump]

Some mail in votes are still arriving, particularly from members of the armed forces serving abroad.

[Callum_62]

Still counting in 4 states. I know it does not matter much but how the hell can it take so long.This is normal though isn't it?

Just usually someone will have conceded by now

Don't know when deadline was/is but pretty sure most will have passed by now

Only thing left is to check they havnt voted twice and if they have, make sure its for Biden.

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[lapsedhibee]

Still counting in 4 states. I know it does not matter much but how the hell can it take so long.

A part of the reason is that the US takes voting very, very seriously. In some cases if a ballot has arrived with a flaw - wrongly dated by the filler-inner, for example - the state posts the ballot back out, giving the voter a chance to repair the error, and waits for it to come in a second time. That's pretty thorough, and unimaginable in the UK.

[weecounty hibby]

From what I have seen from normally reputable organisations none of what has happened has been out if the ordinary for US elections. All except for the behaviour of Trump and his cronies. It is time for the republicans to stand up and realise he isn't a republican or a democrat, it was all about him and not any party. They need to start calling him out on this bull****

[neil7908]

From what I have seen from normally reputable organisations none of what has happened has been out if the ordinary for US elections. All except for the behaviour of Trump and his cronies. It is time for the republicans to stand up and realise he isn't a republican or a democrat, it was all about him and not any party. They need to start calling him out on this bull****

Correct. They have literally no evidence. The worst part is not Trump, who we know is crazy, but people like Cruz and Graham who will continue their careers in the Senate. Utterly despicable to continue this lie.

[lapsedhibee]

The worst part is not Trump, who we know is crazy, but people like Cruz and Graham who will continue their careers in the Senate. Utterly despicable to continue this lie.

:agree: Creepy shape-shifting truth twisters.

Giuliani does also seem genuinely crazy though.

[Callum_62]

Anyone have a wiff of hearts share issue with Romanov and the fund our legal case with Trump?

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[Lendo]

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/11/08/trump-voter-fraud-campaign-debt.html/amp?__twitter_impression=true

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It'll be interesting to see which creditor comes knocking at Trump's door first, US Revenue Services, Deutche Bank, the Saudis or the Chinese. The man is up **** creek without a paddle.

[Kato]

It'll be interesting to see which creditor comes knocking at Trump's door first, US Revenue Services, Deutche Bank, the Saudis or the Chinese. The man is up **** creek without a paddle.My bet is the New York State legal authorities. They have been on his case for years and he cant pardon himself for crimes at state level, only federal.

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[CropleyWasGod]

My bet is the New York State legal authorities. They have been on his case for years and he cant pardon himself for crimes at state level, only federal.

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Chuck Rhodes then? :greengrin

[stoneyburn hibs]

Chuck Rhodes then? :greengrin

He's tied up.

[Ozyhibby]

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Another unionist politician keeping it classy.


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[CropleyWasGod]

He's tied up.

:not worth:not worth:not worth

Classic in-joke. :greengrin

[weecounty hibby]

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Another unionist politician keeping it classy.


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Bigoted racist. He actually tries to defend himself by saying that he knew nothing about her and didn't know her name. But he knew enough to know she was of Indian heritage. ****bag! Has previous for an almost identical thing about Veradkar as well.

Edit. And this is the talent that exists as lawmakers in the UK and there is no way of getting rid of him from the Lord's!

[Bostonhibby]

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Another unionist politician keeping it classy.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJeez, we really do need to find a way to end the gravy train that is the house of lords where bigots like this seem to be able to spout whatever they like at our expense and with impunity.

What an obnoxious little man.

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[Keith_M]

Trump finally congratulates Biden on his win

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[Jim44]

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Another unionist politician keeping it classy.


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Racist rat.

[Chuck Rhoades]

He's tied up.

Oi 😂😂

[G B Young]

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What's he referring to here? That she is of Indian origin or is he meaning this in the context of a native American (ie Red Indian)?

[CropleyWasGod]

What's he referring to here? That she is of Indian origin or is he meaning this in the context of a native American (ie Red Indian)?

She is of Indian and Jamaican parentage.

[Skol]

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Another unionist politician keeping it classy.


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What has being a Unionist got to do with his comments ?

[G B Young]

She is of Indian and Jamaican parentage.

Cheers. Yes I just googled her and she seeems to be regularly referred to as an 'Indian American'. What I meant was whether the peer in question is so old and befuddled that he was making some wild generalisation about her being from a native American tribe.

I note he's declined to apologise and has asked why if Biden is proud to be referred to as Irish that he can't refer to her as Indian...

[Kato]

Cheers. Yes I just googled her and she seeems to be regularly referred to as an 'Indian American'. What I meant was whether the peer in question is so old and befuddled that he was making some wild generalisation about her being from a native American tribe.

I note he's declined to apologise and has asked why if Biden is proud to be referred to as Irish that he can't refer to her as Indian...

If he called him the Irishman in the tweet then that makes sense. Only polite to call both by name.

[weecounty hibby]

Cheers. Yes I just googled her and she seeems to be regularly referred to as an 'Indian American'. What I meant was whether the peer in question is so old and befuddled that he was making some wild generalisation about her being from a native American tribe.

I note he's declined to apologise and has asked why if Biden is proud to be referred to as Irish that he can't refer to her as Indian...
Because he was being a racist bigot and has previous when it comes to people of Indian heritage. To say he didn't know her name is a piss take. He knew her background well eniugh. And if he didn't know the name of the people running for office in the US elections then he shouldn't be allowed to pass laws from his unelected position in the HOL. In short he is a racist bigot who makes up piss poor excuses when called out for it

[Jones28]

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What a horrible ****. Our system gives people like this privilege.

[Tobias Funke]

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What a horrible welt.

[Pretty Boy]

I can't for the life of me understand why but that tweet must have been purely for a reaction. Surely no one is stupid enough not to realise that was grossly inappropriate and was going to provoke an angry response. If he can use Twitter it surely wasn't beyond him to Google the VP elects name and use it.

Unsophisticated trolling at it's worst.

[Tobias Funke]

https://youtu.be/LIiaFMOfbwY

Watched this earlier. The story about the green tee pegs is bonkers :greengrin

Not a fan of Rick Reilly, his Ryder Cup articles back in his Sports Illustrated days were obnoxious but it’s another angle on the warped behaviour of President Lame Duck.

[Tobias Funke]

I can't for the life of me understand why but that tweet must have been purely for a reaction. Surely no one is stupid enough not to realise that was grossly inappropriate and was going to provoke an angry response. If he can use Twitter it surely wasn't beyond him to Google the VP elects name and use it.

Unsophisticated trolling at it's worst.

Or maybe he buys into the latest birther nonsense around the VP elect. Either way he’s another dumbass tw@t among what seems an inexhaustible supply of them just now.

[SteveHFC]

All kicking off on Sky News.

[Tobias Funke]

https://youtu.be/mpOnt1cByT4

[Hibbyradge]

https://youtu.be/mpOnt1cByT4

Incredible.

[Keith_M]

https://youtu.be/mpOnt1cByT4


Surely that Kaleigh McEnany person is actually just a Blow Up Doll?

[lapsedhibee]

Surely that Kaleigh McEnany person is actually just a Blow Up Doll?

Surprisingly well qualified, educationally speaking. Not stoopid, just a liar.

[Keith_M]

Surprisingly well qualified, educationally speaking. Not stoopid, just a liar.


She may well be, but why does Trump keep choosing such weird looking people?

[BroxburnHibee]

Secretary of state Pompeo says there will be a smooth transition to a 2nd Trump administration!!!

Are we looking at a coup here???

[CropleyWasGod]

Secretary of state Pompeo says there will be a smooth transition to a 2nd Trump administration!!!

Are we looking at a coup here???

Dreadful misogyny here.

She may be married to Trump, but there's no need for such language.

[BroxburnHibee]

Dreadful misogyny here.

She may be married to Trump, but there's no need for such language.

Eh???

[CropleyWasGod]

Eh???

I missed a smiley.

Melania. A coup.


My coat's on :cb

[Vault Boy]

Secretary of state Pompeo says there will be a smooth transition to a 2nd Trump administration!!!

Are we looking at a coup here???

It appears that he said it in a tongue in cheek manner, later alluding to the potentiality of transitioning to a new president. How he thought it appropriate to make this kind of comment given the context is unfathomable. The very fact that the Sec of State won't recognise the result of a clear election victory is bad enough, but this serves to further twist the knife. What a ****bag.

[lapsedhibee]

Secretary of state Pompeo says there will be a smooth transition to a 2nd Trump administration!!!

Are we looking at a coup here???

Trump probably looking to coup as much as possible before he leaves, just out of spite. :agree:

[lapsedhibee]

She may well be, but why does Trump keep choosing such weird looking people?

People with blonde hair and a lot of make up are irresistibly attractive, like himself? :dunno:

[hibsbollah]

That’s almost half the population. Major issues of legitimacy that he has to overcome.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/10/election-trust-polling-study-republicans

[JeMeSouviens]

That’s almost half the population. Major issues of legitimacy that he has to overcome.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/10/election-trust-polling-study-republicans

It’s not as bad as the headline. The poll is among registered voters. RVs can register as gop, dem or independent. The number of gop is about a third of the sample, so the gop distrust is about a quarter of the electorate.

Although as it turns out, it’s not just gop lack of trust. Totals are trust 57%, distrust 40% DK 4%

Full results here:

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-aed2-d1da-a775-bef65f2e0000

[hibsbollah]

It’s not as bad as the headline. The poll is among registered voters. RVs can register as gop, dem or independent. The number of gop is about a third of the sample, so the gop distrust is about a quarter of the electorate.

Although as it turns out, it’s not just gop lack of trust. Totals are trust 57%, distrust 40% DK 4%

Full results here:

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-aed2-d1da-a775-bef65f2e0000

Regardless of how you pin down the actual percentage, it’s an unprecedented lack of trust in the validity of the vote. Totally uncharted waters.

[davy67 +]

She may well be, but why does Trump keep choosing such weird looking people?
To make him look good :hahaha:

[Keith_M]

That’s almost half the population. Major issues of legitimacy that he has to overcome.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/10/election-trust-polling-study-republicans


So basically the losing side decided it wasn't a fair vote but the winners are satisfied that it was.

I think they have a history for this (e.g. the mid-terms in 2018, when the Democrats weren't happy)

[Ozyhibby]

So basically the losing side decided it wasn't a fair vote but the winners are satisfied that it was.

I think they have a history for this (e.g. the mid-terms in 2018, when the Democrats weren't happy)

Dems were happy in 2018.


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[lapsedhibee]

So basically the losing side decided it wasn't a fair vote but the winners are satisfied that it was.


Possibly more nuanced than that. This time round Republicans are saying the bottom part of the ballot was fair and the top half unfair.

[weecounty hibby]

The issue for me is that Trump sowed the seeds of this months ago. He was well aware that the Dems would have a large vote in % so set out to discredit that. As the election was taking place he ramped up the rhetoric about it and I have no doubt it was based on what his analysts and strategists were telling him was happening was that he was about to lose. The man is a megalomaniac and simply cannot understand that he could have been beaten.
No evidence has been presented of widescale voter fraud, in fact I think all I have seen is some minor issues with a republican who was trying to vote in behalf of his dead wife

[JeMeSouviens]

Twitter thread going through the conspiracy theories 1 by 1:

https://twitter.com/Ike_Saul/status/1324435797374808066

[AltheHibby]

Twitter thread going through the conspiracy theories 1 by 1:

https://twitter.com/Ike_Saul/status/1324435797374808066

Thanks for that. That's a great thread.

[degenerated]

What has being a Unionist got to do with his comments ?If he wasn't a unionist he wouldn't be an unelected bigot with his snout in thetrough and we wouldn't be having this discussion :dunno:

[Bostonhibby]

If he wasn't a unionist he wouldn't be an unelected bigot with his snout in thetrough and we wouldn't be having this discussion :dunno:He surely deserves some credit for being the peer with the most silent letters in his surname?

As well as just being a bellend.

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[degenerated]

He surely deserves some credit for being the peer with the most silent letters in his surname?

As well as just being a bellend.

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[davy67 +]

Trump claimed that The Bible is his favourite book, but when asked in an inter for his favourite passage he couldn't come up with one . When asked if he preferred the Old or New Testament he said he was 50/50 on that and like them both , now I'd have thought that someone in his PR team would've prepped him so at least he had an answer for both questions something that made him look at least half intelligent and not a complete half wit :rolleyes:

[Bostonhibby]

Trump claimed that The Bible is his favourite book, but when asked in an inter for his favourite passage he couldn't come up with one . When asked if he preferred the Old or New Testament he said he was 50/50 on that and like them both , now I'd have thought that someone in his PR team would've prepped him so at least he had an answer for both questions something that made him look at least half intelligent and not a complete half wit :rolleyes:Half wits everywhere will be crowd funding to sue you for this outrageously libellous comparison.

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[davy67 +]

Half wits everywhere will be crowd funding to sue you for this outrageously libellous comparison.

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With half of it being used to lay of the debt :thumbsup:

[Bostonhibby]

With half of it being used to lay of the debt [emoji106][emoji16]

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[Skol]

If he wasn't a unionist he wouldn't be an unelected bigot with his snout in thetrough and we wouldn't be having this discussion :dunno:

nah sorry, the implication was that all unionists are racist and you have just added unelected, bigot and snout in the trough to the mix.
I agree he appears to be a racist bigot, but thats not because he is a unionist

[Kato]

nah sorry, the implication was that all unionists are racist and you have just added unelected, bigot and snout in the trough to the mix.
I agree he appears to be a racist bigot, but thats not because he is a unionistI agree with you.

It does beggar the question as to how he expresses his unionism though, given the recipe.

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[Skol]

I agree with you.

It does beggar the question as to how he expresses his unionism though, given the recipe.

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Yes, I agree there.

Although I am someone that the Nationalists would declare to be a Unionist, thats not how I see myself. I do believe that Scotlands future is best served by remaining in the Union. I also believe that if we choose to become an Independent Nation, it would be a big mistake under which we are all worse off, despite the best of intentions. Voting for Independence comes from the heart rather than the head

First and foremost though I am a Scot.

[Future17]

Yes, I agree there.

Although I am someone that the Nationalists would declare to be a Unionist, thats not how I see myself. I do believe that Scotlands future is best served by remaining in the Union. I also believe that if we choose to become an Independent Nation, it would be a big mistake under which we are all worse off, despite the best of intentions. Voting for Independence comes from the heart rather than the head

First and foremost though I am a Scot.

I totally understand that's your opinion but, in my experience, that sort of patronising statement does nothing to sway those who are undecided.

It just echoes those who think anyone contemplating independence is too stupid to see past any emotional argument.

[Kato]

Yes, I agree there.

Although I am someone that the Nationalists would declare to be a Unionist, thats not how I see myself. I do believe that Scotlands future is best served by remaining in the Union. I also believe that if we choose to become an Independent Nation, it would be a big mistake under which we are all worse off, despite the best of intentions. Voting for Independence comes from the heart rather than the head

First and foremost though I am a Scot.It doesn't come from my heart. I haven't any/much patriotic feeling (left) towards being "Scottish" at all. For me it's an escape route from the kleptocracy imposed on us by Etons FPs. England will never get away from that lot. As a country they seem bewitched by poshness, and seem incapable of seeing behind the curtain.

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[degenerated]

Yes, I agree there.

Although I am someone that the Nationalists would declare to be a Unionist, thats not how I see myself. I do believe that Scotlands future is best served by remaining in the Union. I also believe that if we choose to become an Independent Nation, it would be a big mistake under which we are all worse off, despite the best of intentions. Voting for Independence comes from the heart rather than the head

First and foremost though I am a Scot.

As someone that the unionists would declare to be nationalist, that's not how I see myself, I find your assertion that anyone who wants to see Scotland as a normal country is not capable of looking at it other than as some sort of misty eyed romantic idea is quite patronising and insulting.

[Kato]

As someone that the unionists would declare to be nationalist, that's not how I see myself, I find your assertion that anyone who wants to see Scotland as a normal country is not capable of looking at it other than as some sort of misty eyed romantic idea is quite patronising and insulting.Exactly. Skol has fallen into the trap of insisting Unionism is multi-faceted but seeing supporting independence as one dimensional. There multiple reasons for supporting both.

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[Keith_M]

This is about the US vote, not Independence.


Although, I'd like to know what Trump's view is on Independence so I can choose the opposite side to him...

[Moulin Yarns]

This is about the US vote, not Independence.


Although, I'd like to know what Trump's view is on Independence so I can choose the opposite side to him...

Happy to oblige


In 2015, before becoming president, Trump was asked if there should be a second Scottish independence referendum He said: “I don’t know how they can do that – go through all that again. I’ve never heard of a thing like that. It’s crazy.”
He added: “I didn’t want to get involved in it, but people asked me and I think Scotland is better being unified as opposed to being independent.”
Two years later Trump said that Scottish independence would be “terrible”, citing fears over the future of the Open golf championship.
He doubted whether there should be a new vote in Scotland, saying: "They just went through hell."
The president noted “they’d no longer have the British Open”, adding: "Scotland. Keep it in Scotland."

[AltheHibby]

"... a second Scottish independence referendum He said: “I don’t know how they can do that – go through all that again. I’ve never heard of a thing like that. It’s crazy.”

So he's never heard of the Quebec independence movement? Just another lie to add to the list.

[RyeSloan]

"... a second Scottish independence referendum He said: “I don’t know how they can do that – go through all that again. I’ve never heard of a thing like that. It’s crazy.”

So he's never heard of the Quebec independence movement? Just another lie to add to the list.

I think it’s entirely reasonable to assume he has never heard of the Quebec movement!

And good to see he based his views on Indy entirely in what that would mean for the golf major. I’d like to see that as the key debating point going forward [emoji23]

[lapsedhibee]

And good to see he based his views on Indy entirely in what that would mean for the golf major. I’d like to see that as the key debating point going forward
Not sure how often the Tour de France takes place exclusively in France, but expect that to be the key international comparison. Already excited for the to-and-fro.

[Green Man]

Not sure how often the Tour de France takes place exclusively in France, but expect that to be the key international comparison. Already excited for the to-and-fro.

Roughly every 2 or 3 years the grand départ is in a different country. It’s also fairly common for mountain stages to go into Andorra and Spain.

[Keith_M]

Happy to oblige


Thanks for that.


So it's a YES from me then

:greengrin

[Moulin Yarns]

I think it’s entirely reasonable to assume he has never heard of the Quebec movement!

And good to see he based his views on Indy entirely in what that would mean for the golf major. I’d like to see that as the key debating point going forward [emoji23]

Please don't go, we want to hit a wee ball into a hole with a piece of wood. That will win over the undecided :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

Not sure how often the Tour de France takes place exclusively in France, but expect that to be the key international comparison. Already excited for the to-and-fro.

It's not the British Open anyway.

[Bostonhibby]

I think it’s entirely reasonable to assume he has never heard of the Quebec movement!

And good to see he based his views on Indy entirely in what that would mean for the golf major. I’d like to see that as the key debating point going forward [emoji23]Good to see he knows as much about Scotlandland, the home of the Scotlandlanders as he knows about the many books of The Bybell, which is an important part of his life. Even if he does prefer the DVD to the book.



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[marinello59]

"... a second Scottish independence referendum He said: “I don’t know how they can do that – go through all that again. I’ve never heard of a thing like that. It’s crazy.”

So he's never heard of the Quebec independence movement? Just another lie to add to the list.

He will be looking for work soon though and given that he is half Scottish he might fancy being the first President of an Independent Scotland. How much fun would that be? :greengrin

[degenerated]

He will be looking for work soon though and given that he is half Scottish he might fancy being the first President of an Independent Scotland. How much fun would that be? :greengrinBuild that wall :greengrin

[One Day Soon]

He will be looking for work soon though and given that he is half Scottish he might fancy being the first President of an Independent Scotland. How much fun would that be? :greengrin

I mean, I was against independence anyway but that seals the deal completely.

[Bostonhibby]

He will be looking for work soon though and given that he is half Scottish he might fancy being the first President of an Independent Scotland. How much fun would that be? :greengrinI think he'd fancy being a king of somewhere, or something.

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[McD]

I think he'd fancy being a king of somewhere, or something.

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my immediate thought was “the king of wishful thinking”

(might be a bit before some folk’s time :greengrin)

[Bostonhibby]

my immediate thought was “the king of wishful thinking”

(might be a bit before some folk’s time :greengrin)I know what you mean[emoji106]

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[Ozyhibby]

I think he'd fancy being a king of somewhere, or something.

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He’s about as nuts as the Tiger King, so there is that.


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[Bostonhibby]

He’s about as nuts as the Tiger King, so there is that.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[emoji23] We have a winner.

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[Moulin Yarns]

Build that wall :greengrin

Stop the c o unt. 😉

[ballengeich]

I think he'd fancy being a king of somewhere, or something.

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Didn't Idi Amin appoint himself King of Scotland? Donald would be a worthy successor.

[Bostonhibby]

Didn't Idi Amin appoint himself King of Scotland? Donald would be a worthy successor.Great shout, similar physical specimens and both despots with scant regard for democracy.

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[jonty]

He's sacked Chris Krebs (Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA at DHS) and a trump appointee) for debunking voter fraud claims
https://twitter.com/C_C_Krebs?s=20

He setup and ran Rumour Control https://www.cisa.gov/rumorcontrol

[BroxburnHibee]

He's sacked Chris Krebs (Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA at DHS) and a trump appointee) for debunking voter fraud claims
https://twitter.com/C_C_Krebs?s=20

He setup and ran Rumour Control https://www.cisa.gov/rumorcontrol

Sacked him for not telling his lies.

[JeMeSouviens]

He's sacked Chris Krebs (Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA at DHS) and a trump appointee) for debunking voter fraud claims
https://twitter.com/C_C_Krebs?s=20

He setup and ran Rumour Control https://www.cisa.gov/rumorcontrol

I like his reply to Mark Hamill (aka Luke Skywalker): "In defending democracy, do or do not, there is no try." :greengrin

[jonty]

I like his reply to Mark Hamill (aka Luke Skywalker): "In defending democracy, do or do not, there is no try." :greengrin

ThisIsTheWay :greengrin

[Bristolhibby]

It's not the British Open anyway.

I believe it’s just called “The Open”.

And anyway Independence downer get away from the fact that Scotland is one of the countries that resides on the Island of Great Britain. That’s just a fact of geography.

J

[Just Alf]

Quarter of a million deaths now reached and Trump stays hidden in the White House..... Just watching CNN and apparently he's not attended the Covid crisis committee (he's supposed to chair it) for 5 months.

Jeezo I thought Boris Johnson was a poor attendee at stuff.

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[Moulin Yarns]

I believe it’s just called “The Open”.

And anyway Independence downer get away from the fact that Scotland is one of the countries that resides on the Island of Great Britain. That’s just a fact of geography.

J

And you have the organisation that runs the open based in St Andrews. So maybe the Donald should be happy for Scotland to be an independent country after all. 😉

[Keith_M]

Quarter of a million deaths now reached and Trump stays hidden in the White House..... Just watching CNN and apparently he's not attended the Covid crisis committee (he's supposed to chair it) for 5 months.

Jeezo I thought Boris Johnson was a poor attendee at stuff.



Trump has shown quite clearly that he cares only about himself.

[JeMeSouviens]

I believe it’s just called “The Open”.

And anyway Independence downer get away from the fact that Scotland is one of the countries that resides on the Island of Great Britain. That’s just a fact of geography.

J

Considering Scotland has St Andrews, Muirfield, Carnoustie, Troon, Turnberry; it's going to be a pretty closed Open on that basis. :wink:

[Callum_62]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-pennsylvania-elections-results-judge-b1736592.html

Seems fair enough to me

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[Hibrandenburg]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-pennsylvania-elections-results-judge-b1736592.html

Seems fair enough to me

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I really hope to see these goons in orange jumpsuits in the near future.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/richardhrbenyon/status/1329082454200631297?s=21

[emoji23]


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[Keith_M]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-pennsylvania-elections-results-judge-b1736592.html

Seems fair enough to me


Who cares about democracy when you've got lawyers.

[AltheHibby]

https://twitter.com/richardhrbenyon/status/1329082454200631297?s=21

[emoji23]


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Either they are the thickest people ever to stand upright or that is a world class p***take.

Either way, it's brilliant.

[Hibrandenburg]

https://twitter.com/richardhrbenyon/status/1329082454200631297?s=21

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That's gust jenius. :faf:

[Hibrandenburg]

Either they are the thickest people ever to stand upright or that is a world class p***take.

Either way, it's brilliant.

I'm still waiting to see a clip of a Trump supporter who can be reasonably described as "normal".

[AltheHibby]

I'm still waiting to see a clip of a Trump supporter who can be reasonably described as "normal".

Me too. I know one up north who has serious health issues and is on benefits. She gets all her healthcare free without even paying National insurance.

And she hates Obamacare because it's marxist and people should be forced to pay for it.

She's now an ex-friend.

[Keith_M]

That's gust jenius. :faf:


Gesus H Christ!

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/richardhrbenyon/status/1329082454200631297?s=21

[emoji23]


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[BS44]

Republicans now claiming a Software developed by Hugo Schavez goverment helped Biden win election

Cuba, communists and the Clinton Foundation in on it too

[ballengeich]

Republicans now claiming a Software developed by Hugo Schavez goverment helped Biden win election

Cuba, communists and the Clinton Foundation in on it too
They actually believe that the Chavez government could produce something that works?

[Ryan91]

Republicans now claiming a Software developed by Hugo Schavez goverment helped Biden win election

Cuba, communists and the Clinton Foundation in on it too

I'm pretty sure Hugo Chavez is dead, and has been for a number of years.

[CropleyWasGod]

I'm pretty sure Hugo Chavez is dead, and has been for a number of years.

So the lamestream media tell you. Do your own research.







😏

[Bostonhibby]

I'm pretty sure Hugo Chavez is dead, and has been for a number of years.Just blame it on Fidel Castro or maybe Lenin then? They'll have used their Amstrads to rig it.

Any port in a storm for the desperate nasty party.

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[BS44]

I'm pretty sure Hugo Chavez is dead, and has been for a number of years.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/heres-how-hugo-chavez-dead-since-2013-became-responsible-for-trumps-election-loss

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55006188

Stop the recount 😁

[BS44]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55006188

Stop the recount 😁

See they are claiming that the recount included counting illegal ballots. Back to court!

[lapsedhibee]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55006188

Stop the recount ��

That was only a 'hand audit', wasn't it? Republicans can still request a recount, I think.

Start the recount.

[Moulin Yarns]

That was only a 'hand audit', wasn't it? Republicans can still request a recount, I think.

Start the recount.

A hand audit, left, yay, right, yay. Both present and correct, the yays have it. 😉

[AltheHibby]

That was only a 'hand audit', wasn't it? Republicans can still request a recount, I think.

Start the recount.

There's only one thing Trump audits by hand I reckon!

[Moulin Yarns]

There's only one thing Trump audits by hand I reckon!

I predict a riot. 😉

[hibbydog]

Trump is an arrogant, crass, classless, racist, ignorant, self important megalomaniac who is ungracious in defeat.

Utterly fed up with him being in the news.

[Bostonhibby]

Trump is an arrogant, crass, classless, racist, ignorant, self important megalomaniac who is ungracious in defeat.

Utterly fed up with him being in the news.He's a bit of a **** as well.

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[davy67 +]

Trump is an arrogant, crass, classless, racist, ignorant, self important megalomaniac who is ungracious in defeat.

Utterly fed up with him being in the news.

All of this we knew 4 years ago, did anyone actually expected any other outcome? It's not as if he was ever going to go quietly or graciously

[hibsbollah]

All of this we knew 4 years ago, did anyone actually expected any other outcome? It's not as if he was ever going to go quietly or graciously

You’re right, hes been behaving like this for 4 years and has been saying he might not accept the results for at least a year, so we shouldn’t be shocked. I do remember being told that his bark would be worse than his bite and he’d grudgingly have to accept reality in the end.

What IS unexpected is the almost total lack of criticism of Trump from other Republicans. We had Romney last week breaking ranks, that’s been all. The GOP has lost any kind of moral compass. And this is with a president elect on the Democratic side that has made a career out of befriending Republicans and doing senate deals! It’s not like you have a radical liberal takeover going on. I expected to have heard a lot more from moderate, centrist Republicans, but maybe they just don’t exist anymore or never really did.

[Jim44]

Trump is an arrogant, crass, classless, racist, ignorant, self important megalomaniac who is ungracious in defeat.

Utterly fed up with him being in the news.


You’re right, hes been behaving like this for 4 years and has been saying he might not accept the results for at least a year, so we shouldn’t be shocked. I do remember being told that his bark would be worse than his bite and he’d grudgingly have to accept reality in the end.

What IS unexpected is the almost total lack of criticism of Trump from other Republicans. We had Romney last week breaking ranks, that’s been all. The GOP has lost any kind of moral compass. And this is with a president elect on the Democratic side that has made a career out of befriending Republicans and doing senate deals! It’s not like you have a radical liberal takeover going on. I expected to have heard a lot more from moderate, centrist Republicans, but maybe they just don’t exist anymore or never really did.

:agree: All of the above but I hope we continue to hear plenty more about Trump and his demise as he gets his come-uppence through long awaited legal action.

It’s a huge relief to see the back of the idiot but let’s not assume that Biden is the messianic answer to the USA’s and the world’s problems. His strongest asset, maybe his only one, is that he is not Trump.

[AltheHibby]

Dominion machines seized in Germany. Really?

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/u-s-army-didnt-seize-election-servers-in-germany/

Also, we who think Biden will be President are wrong according to these nutjobs.

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2020/november/the-prophets-did-not-get-it-wrong-its-not-over

[CropleyWasGod]

Interesting from Sidney Powell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y68pEknYyCM&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2EyhIFIU1mm6yAR7KpRzfNL7L-YgK_siUxsRv_WKjMXJSg0g_tXKD-8kM

[Northernhibee]

:agree: All of the above but I hope we continue to hear plenty more about Trump and his demise as he gets his come-uppence through long awaited legal action.

It’s a huge relief to see the back of the idiot but let’s not assume that Biden is the messianic answer to the USA’s and the world’s problems. His strongest asset, maybe his only one, is that he is not Trump.

The media needs to move to what Biden is trying to do but can't, rather than what Trump is doing. He wants to put in practise the handover transition team so they're ready to go from day one but can't and if he can't get the support then it could cost a quarter of a million lives.

They need to say what Biden is doing, why that will help the country and leave what Trump is doing to a minimum but making it clear that it is indeed Trump who is stopping that.

[DaveF]

Interesting from Sidney Powell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y68pEknYyCM&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2EyhIFIU1mm6yAR7KpRzfNL7L-YgK_siUxsRv_WKjMXJSg0g_tXKD-8kM

She claims thousands are in on the conspiracy but does not know how 'they do it'. She is as mad as a box of frogs.

[lapsedhibee]

She claims thousands are in on the conspiracy but does not know how 'they do it'. She is as mad as a box of frogs.

Algorithm blabla Dominion voting machines blablabla affidavit from a Venezuelan blabla - if that doesn't convince you I don't know what will.

[Tobias Funke]

Interesting from Sidney Powell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y68pEknYyCM&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2EyhIFIU1mm6yAR7KpRzfNL7L-YgK_siUxsRv_WKjMXJSg0g_tXKD-8kM

No reason for me to watch what’s in the link as I know she’s an absolute mental case. Absolutely no credibility whatsoever and a total embarrassment to her profession.

As for her sidekick Giuliani, he needs sectioned.

[CropleyWasGod]

No reason for me to watch what’s in the link as I know she’s an absolute mental case. Absolutely no credibility whatsoever and a total embarrassment to her profession.

As for her sidekick Giuliani, he needs sectioned.

Nutter or not, she's entitled to her day in Court. I'm actually looking forward to that.

[Northernhibee]

No reason for me to watch what’s in the link as I know she’s an absolute mental case. Absolutely no credibility whatsoever and a total embarrassment to her profession.

As for her sidekick Giuliani, he needs sectioned.

Put on a register more like.

[CapitalGreen]

Interesting from Sidney Powell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y68pEknYyCM&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2EyhIFIU1mm6yAR7KpRzfNL7L-YgK_siUxsRv_WKjMXJSg0g_tXKD-8kM

The Trump Campaign have just released a statement effectively disowning her.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Endg3e_WEAQRUug?format=jpg&name=large

[CropleyWasGod]

The Trump Campaign have just released a statement effectively disowning her.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Endg3e_WEAQRUug?format=jpg&name=large

Brilliant.

Disowned by the nutters. That's quite a badge 😂😂

[lapsedhibee]

Brilliant.

Disowned by the nutters. That's quite a badge ����

Judging by the youtube comments :crazy: on her Newsmax interview, she's possibly got enough of a personal following now to effect 'blowing up Georgia' anyway.

[CropleyWasGod]

Judging by the youtube comments :crazy: on her Newsmax interview, she's possibly got enough of a personal following now to effect 'blowing up Georgia' anyway.

In a Biblical sense.:greengrin

[JeMeSouviens]

btw, for any Scottish Tories looking in - *this* is what not accepting a democratic result actually looks like. :rolleyes:

[Keith_M]

In a Biblical sense.:greengrin


Pu-leez!!!!

[BS44]

That's Michigan in the bag as they have voted to confirm their election result

[CapitalGreen]

The person who is supposed to send a letter to Biden authorising the transition process but who was withholding said letter has now sent the letter.

[Hiber-nation]

Got an official Government website now....https://buildbackbetter.gov/

[Jones28]

Interesting from Sidney Powell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y68pEknYyCM&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2EyhIFIU1mm6yAR7KpRzfNL7L-YgK_siUxsRv_WKjMXJSg0g_tXKD-8kM


What an absolute nutter.

[Keith_M]

Have they managed to flush it yet, or do we need to get out the Toilet Brush and the Bleach?

[Hibs Class]

The person who is supposed to send a letter to Biden authorising the transition process but who was withholding said letter has now sent the letter.

She has....a quite strange letter re content, a little defensive and self-pitying and likely not wholly honest.

[lapsedhibee]

She has....a quite strange letter re content, a little defensive and self-pitying and likely not wholly honest.

:agree: Thousands of threats from Dems but no pressure at all from the orange utan. :fibber:

[Bristolhibby]

When the Donald gets pulled up and indicted by the State of New York. Is there a way that they can do it so it scuppers him resurgent in 2024.

If he is fighting a protracted legal case in say 2022, there’s no way he can run for Primaries or run a Presidential campaign.

Not saying that prosecutors should look at that, if they can get a conviction, push the button straight away.

J

[Jones28]

When the Donald gets pulled up and indicted by the State of New York. Is there a way that they can do it so it scuppers him resurgent in 2024.

If he is fighting a protracted legal case in say 2022, there’s no way he can run for Primaries or run a Presidential campaign.

Not saying that prosecutors should look at that, if they can get a conviction, push the button straight away.

J

I'd be astonished if he gets anywhere near nomination for 2024.

[Keith_M]

I'd be astonished if he gets anywhere near nomination for 2024.


There was a survey of Republicans voters where they were asked... "if you had to vote now for the 2024 Presidential Candidate, who would you vote for"... 54% of them said Trump.

The second highest was Pence, with 12%, followed by Donald Trump Jr with 8%


https://morningconsult.com/2020/11/24/trump-gop-congress-2024-polling/

[Hibbyradge]

There was a survey of Republicans voters where they were asked... "if you had to vote now for the 2024 Presidential Candidate, who would you vote for"... 54% of them said Trump.

The second highest was Pence, with 12%, followed by Donald Trump Jr with 8%


https://morningconsult.com/2020/11/24/trump-gop-congress-2024-polling/

That doesn't really mean much.

They don't know anyone else and Trump is the incumbent.

They've just voted for him so there's an element of confirmation bias in there too.

I think time, and a few criminal charges, will see a changing of minds.

[AltheHibby]

I see Pennsylvania has certified. I had a look at the batsh*t crazy Christianchat.com website. They are all hoping that the loony lawyer gets Trump in (in the White House you sickos!).

They also believe that all the right wing "prophets" got it right at that Trump will still win. They are only attacking one of the so-called prophets as he said Biden would win and apparently he always calls the winner correctly.

[Keith_M]

That doesn't really mean much.

They don't know anyone else and Trump is the incumbent.

They've just voted for him so there's an element of confirmation bias in there too.

I think time, and a few criminal charges, will see a changing of minds.


Yeah, I think a lot of them will have switched to Ivanka by 2024.

[Keith_M]

Incidentally, does anybody else think that Ivanka Trump models her look on Phoebe from Friends?

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/jwharris/status/1332299579572822018?s=19

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[Tobias Funke]

https://twitter.com/jwharris/status/1332299579572822018?s=19

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That is brilliant 😂

[DaveF]

Top Iranian nuclear scientist killed. A leaving present from Israel/Trump.

[Lendo]

Top Iranian nuclear scientist killed. A leaving present from Israel/Trump.

Doing their best to create as much chaos as possible ahead of the transition.

Reading that the scientists family also injured in the attack. Despicable iif they also deliberately targeted children.

[AltheHibby]

Doing their best to create as much chaos as possible ahead of the transition.

Reading that the scientists family also injured in the attack. Despicable iif they also deliberately targeted children.

It's all part of his scorched earth policy of causing damage to punish those who dared defy him and vote for Biden and to make it hard for Biden too. In my opinion.

[Lendo]

It’s no secret that Israel and Saudi Arabia both hated the Iran nuclear deal.

Is it just a coincidence that Benjamin Netanyahu actually flew to Saudi Arabia last weekend for secret talks? The first time that has ever happened.

[DaveF]

Trump has apparently released a 46 minute video all about voter fraud and called the election rigged. That should be fun....not.

[Bristolhibby]

Trump has apparently released a 46 minute video all about voter fraud and called the election rigged. That should be fun....not.

Duck me! He was squealing about voter fraud when he won last time. Paranoid *******. He’s supposed to be the Commander in Chief.

Behave like one.

J

[lapsedhibee]

Duck me! He was squealing about voter fraud when he won last time. Paranoid *******. He’s supposed to be the Commander in Chief.

Behave like one.


Was squealing about voter fraud when his light entertainment shows didn't win awards. It's in his DNA.

[Bostonhibby]

Was squealing about voter fraud when his light entertainment shows didn't win awards. It's in his DNA.To be fair he does seem to know an awful lot about fraud.

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[neil7908]

Duck me! He was squealing about voter fraud when he won last time. Paranoid *******. He’s supposed to be the Commander in Chief.

Behave like one.

J

Nearly 3k dead in America yesterday from a disease that he said was going away.

64m people voted for this guy. Every now and again I try and get into the head of a Trump supporter... But I can't see it.

I actually think he's a psychopath. There is no morality, compassion or humanity in him.

A truly terrifying person.

[s.a.m]

Duck me! He was squealing about voter fraud when he won last time. Paranoid *******. He’s supposed to be the Commander in Chief.

Behave like one.

J

I can't decide if it's paranoia, or if it's just a tried and trusty strategy for him: always claim victimhood, whatever the result, and that the Man is out to get him and YOU, and the Man is everywhere and only he can help you fight the Man. Apparently it works.

[Hibs Class]

I can't decide if it's paranoia, or if it's just a tried and trusty strategy for him: always claim victimhood, whatever the result, and that the Man is out to get him and YOU, and the Man is everywhere and only he can help you fight the Man. Apparently it works.

Regardless of any political consideration, the longer he draws out his dispute the more money "for the fight" he raises from his supporters, the majority of whom are too stupid to know/care that the bulk of the cash raised is going straight to Trump rather than to the legal challenge.

[ACLeith]

Nearly 3k dead in America yesterday from a disease that he said was going away.

64m people voted for this guy. Every now and again I try and get into the head of a Trump supporter... But I can't see it.

I actually think he's a psychopath. There is no morality, compassion or humanity in him.

A truly terrifying person.

TBH I have thought the same for a long time. If you look up the character traits of a psychopath then there are very few that don't immediately apply to him. Probably inherited it from his father who appears to be have had similar traits.

He is a serial loser. Loser in personal relationships, business (multiple bankrupcies), fined for fraudulant use of funds from his charitable foundation. And what is his worst crime of all - a cheat at golf. And now a losing Presidential candidate.

[hibsbollah]

TBH I have thought the same for a long time. If you look up the character traits of a psychopath then there are very few that don't immediately apply to him. Probably inherited it from his father who appears to be have had similar traits.

He is a serial loser. Loser in personal relationships, business (multiple bankrupcies), fined for fraudulant use of funds from his charitable foundation. And what is his worst crime of all - a cheat at golf. And now a losing Presidential candidate.

I’ve known someone for many years who has formally undiagnosed NPD (narcissistic personality disorder). A very difficult individual who has many good points but has behaviours that you can only explain on a clinical level. When I watch and listen to Trump I see so many parallels with my acquaintance it’s clear to me that he has it too. He’s often called a narcissist as a throwaway insult but there’s an obvious truth there. It’s a really interesting condition when you look into it; it’s also one of the hardest conditions to treat because by its nature the patient doesn’t often accept the reality of their diagnosis and walks away from treatment. I’d be interested to hear from Nottingham Stu if he has any experience of this.

[Hibs Class]

TBH I have thought the same for a long time. If you look up the character traits of a psychopath then there are very few that don't immediately apply to him. Probably inherited it from his father who appears to be have had similar traits.

He is a serial loser. Loser in personal relationships, business (multiple bankrupcies), fined for fraudulant use of funds from his charitable foundation. And what is his worst crime of all - a cheat at golf. And now a losing Presidential candidate.

I think he presents more as a sociopath than a psychopath, but agree he’s also typical NPD.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I’ve known someone for many years who has formally undiagnosed NPD (narcissistic personality disorder). A very difficult individual who has many good points but has behaviours that you can only explain on a clinical level. When I watch and listen to Trump I see so many parallels with my acquaintance it’s clear to me that he has it too. He’s often called a narcissist as a throwaway insult but there’s an obvious truth there. It’s a really interesting condition when you look into it; it’s also one of the hardest conditions to treat because by its nature the patient doesn’t often accept the reality of their diagnosis and walks away from treatment. I’d be interested to hear from Nottingham Stu if he has any experience of this.

I'm not a psychologist, but personality disorders of all types are, so I've read, basically impossible to treat. It isn't a mental illness but an inbuilt disposition. Those who are psychopathic/narcissistic/antisocial etc cannot be medicated or talked out of their condition in the way those with a clinical mental illness often can. Rather, at its most extreme, the genetic malfunction is reinforced by negative environment in childhood, and thus, when there is a toxic mixture of nature and nurture malfunctions it can be catastrophic. At the most extreme level this manifests itself in the serial killer or violent offender. Those whose genetic predisposition has been moderated by positive nurture in childhood often become the functioning maladjusted, and thus we get the psychopaths in politics, business, academia, meaning those whose pathology doesn't stray into criminal violence but is still toxic for those who encounter them. Such people often get to the top via ruthless disregard of the value of others.

[Keith_M]

I think he presents more as a sociopath than a psychopath....


Yeah, I think that's a more accurate description.

[Keith_M]

The State of Texas has "filed a lawsuit against the states of Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin at the US supreme court, calling changes they made to election procedures amid the coronavirus pandemic unlawful"
...from the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/08/texas-lawsuit-donald-trump-election-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin)


This is surely a first.

[Ozyhibby]

The State of Texas has "filed a lawsuit against the states of Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin at the US supreme court, calling changes they made to election procedures amid the coronavirus pandemic unlawful"
...from the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/08/texas-lawsuit-donald-trump-election-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin)


This is surely a first.

Already been thrown out by the Supreme Court 9 votes to zero.


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[Moulin Yarns]

The State of Texas has "filed a lawsuit against the states of Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin at the US supreme court, calling changes they made to election procedures amid the coronavirus pandemic unlawful"
...from the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/08/texas-lawsuit-donald-trump-election-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin)


This is surely a first.

The disunited states of America 🇺🇸😁

[Keith_M]

Already been thrown out by the Supreme Court 9 votes to zero.

...


That was quick.

Nice to see common sense prevail

[Bostonhibby]

Already been thrown out by the Supreme Court 9 votes to zero.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDoes this pave the way for Texas to apply to join Britannia?

Plenty right wing nutters in control and surely we'll be able to find a way to let them keep their guns[emoji6].

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[Glory Lurker]

Does this pave the way for Texas to apply to join Britannia?

Plenty right wing nutters in control and surely we'll be able to find a way to let them keep their guns[emoji6].

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Trying to watch a game when everyone is wearing a stetson will be tricky, but the half-time steaks will be a treat.

[lapsedhibee]

Does this pave the way for Texas to apply to join Britannia?



Think we'll have enough Americans to take care of on the east coast when we get all our colonies back after 1st Jan.

[Bostonhibby]

Think we'll have enough Americans to take care of on the east coast when we get all our colonies back after 1st Jan.Good point actually, hopefully we'll be trimming the sails of Mayflower mark 2 to set sail from Boston as I type, ready to claim our Birthright.

The whole world just can't wait for 1st January to arrive and Britannia to reclaim empire. It's why all the big manufacturers have left already.

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[AltheHibby]

Already been thrown out by the Supreme Court 9 votes to zero.


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According to CNN the case that was thrown out was the PA Republicans. I'm not sure this case is dead yet.

[Hibbyradge]

I see the clown is going to execute as many as he can before he buggers off in his strop.

[Bristolhibby]

I see the clown is going to execute as many as he can before he buggers off in his strop.

The guys a psycho.

Killed one last night. A barbaric practice.

J

[Sergio sledge]

I see the clown is going to execute as many as he can before he buggers off in his strop.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55261224

Usually (in the last 130 years) the sitting president pauses federal executions during the transition period, but Trump is going for it and forcing a few through. It's just pure evil using people's lives like this.

When you see cases like the above being forced through you just despair that a so called civilised country still has the death penalty.

[hibsbollah]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55261224

Usually (in the last 130 years) the sitting president pauses federal executions during the transition period, but Trump is going for it and forcing a few through. It's just pure evil using people's lives like this.

When you see cases like the above being forced through you just despair that a so called civilised country still has the death penalty.

He sounded like a man who got in with some bad characters when young, was not the main instigator of the terrible crime and was remorseful throughout his incarceration and a model prisoner. Even if you agree with capital punishment this one stands out as being wrong.

[Sergio sledge]

He sounded like a man who got in with some bad characters when young, was not the main instigator of the terrible crime and was remorseful throughout his incarceration and a model prisoner. Even if you agree with capital punishment this one stands out as being wrong.

Yup, yet Trump pushes it through, evil stuff.

[Keith_M]

He sounded like a man who got in with some bad characters when young, was not the main instigator of the terrible crime and was remorseful throughout his incarceration and a model prisoner. Even if you agree with capital punishment this one stands out as being wrong.


Trump is just grandstanding but I'm struggling to have much sympathy for someone that wilfully took part in an armed robbery in which two innocent people died. Apparently he set light to the car and it was later found that one of the people in it was actually still alive at that point.

[AltheHibby]

Trump is just grandstanding but I'm struggling to have much sympathy for someone that wilfully took part in an armed robbery in which two innocent people died. Apparently he set light to the car and it was later found that one of the people in it was actually still alive at that point.

While not disagreeing with you, mistakes can be made or the prosecution can hide evidence that weakens their case. That leads to innocent people being jailed and only cleared later through advances in science or new evidence. If the person convicted is dead it's too late, so life sentences are better.

Having said that, I would rather die than spend life locked up; especially in an American prison.

[Hibrandenburg]

I grew up looking east towards the old USSR and wondering how long it would take for the population to wake up and see through the spoon fed bull**** diet of propaganda sold to them by the state. I now look west.

[AltheHibby]

Texas case refused by the SCOTUS. Texas told they can't tell other states how to run their elections.

[Keith_M]

Texas case refused by the SCOTUS. Texas told they can't tell other states how to run their elections.


Does everything over there have to be assigned a name ending in OTUS?

Maybe we should start doing the same kind of thing and referring to Bojo as PMOTUK. His Missus would be FLOTUK

[hibsbollah]

Does everything over there have to be assigned a name ending in OTUS?

Maybe we should start doing the same kind of thing and referring to Bojo as PMOTUK. His Missus would be FLOTUK

:agree: the acronym thing has gone tonto. Plus SCOTUS has a ring of ‘scrotum’ about it.

[Keith_M]

:agree: the acronym thing has gone tonto. Plus SCOTUS has a ring of ‘scrotum’ about it.



I knew it made me thing of something, I just couldn't think what.


:greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

:agree: the acronym thing has gone tonto. Plus SCOTUS has a ring of ‘scrotum’ about it.

I hope not.

It means Scot in Latin.

[weecounty hibby]

Apparently Maryland has said they did all of the things that Texas accused other states of doing. Difference there was that Trump won so no court case threatened