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Unseen work
30-01-2018, 02:17 PM
Not seen McLaren or Kamberi properly so I can't give an opinion of them yet.

That looks to me like 4 strikers if 2 go and the other is rumour only.

Yes and if the others leave it will give us the money to sign a more experienced proven player.

KWJ
30-01-2018, 02:19 PM
Why would anyone be against a try before you buy deal?

Agathe.

J-C
30-01-2018, 02:21 PM
Yes and if the others leave it will give us the money to sign a more experienced proven player.


Leaving it all a bit late for that to happen I'd thought, I noticed the guys on Sportscene at the weekend mentioning Dobbie being a good signing as he knows where the goals are, he may be 35 but not a bad shout TBH.

HeidTheBaw
30-01-2018, 02:31 PM
Why would anyone be against a try before you buy deal?

My issue with "try before you buy" is that come the end of the trial period, if said player is a success and we want him then the price suddenly inflates and the selling club will probably insist on add-ons. However if we punted a bid in for Kamberi now we may be throwing good money after bad and limiting our budget for the future.

Who'd be in Lenny's shoes huh?

GreenPJ
30-01-2018, 02:35 PM
Without Stokes we look very average upfront...not convinced with any of these forwards we've signed.

We weren't exactly banging them in with Stokes up front (or more to the point when he was meant to be upfront).

One of the big frustrations for me with Stokes was we signed him as a forward/striker but most of the time he was around the centre circle.

No doubting Stokes technical ability as a footballer but just not sure he is a disciplined forward or a natural goalscorer so am happy to forgo the technical aspect if we can get a goalscorer/disciplined striker who knows where and when to run.

Thecat23
30-01-2018, 02:37 PM
Without Stokes we look very average upfront...not convinced with any of these forwards we've signed.

Got to give these guys a chance. Let’s be honest how much does anyone know of them?

Hibee87
30-01-2018, 02:37 PM
My issue with "try before you buy" is that come the end of the trial period, if said player is a success and we want him then the price suddenly inflates and the selling club will probably insist on add-ons. However if we punted a bid in for Kamberi now we may be throwing good money after bad and limiting our budget for the future.

Who'd be in Lenny's shoes huh?

I would hope our deal with this would be a set agreed fee so we have option to make perm at x amount pre set. However I don't see why the other team would be open to this, but you never know.

Colr
30-01-2018, 02:39 PM
Without Stokes we look very average upfront...not convinced with any of these forwards we've signed.

Is he away? Have we freed up his wage yet?

Hibby soldier
30-01-2018, 02:43 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1926960843998986&set=gm.1246116072198401&type=3&theater

B.H.F.C
30-01-2018, 02:43 PM
Got to give these guys a chance. Let’s be honest how much does anyone know of them?

I'm sure people will give them a chance but are just anxious to actually see them in the team.

We signed McLaren and he hasn't had any significant time on the pitch in the 3 games he's been here, despite our troubles in front of goal.

The problem with these short term deals is that we don't want them to just be getting up to speed then disappearing again.

Hibby soldier
30-01-2018, 02:46 PM
https://twitter.com/edinburghsport/status/958341647712116736

southern hibby
30-01-2018, 02:46 PM
So our front line is going to look like:

S Murray
Shaw
Big Davy
MacLaren
Kamberi

With M Boyle as well? It’s quite a lot of players to keep happy.

What about Stokes? You forgot to mention him.

GGTTH

CMurdoch
30-01-2018, 02:46 PM
Link doesn't work

J-C
30-01-2018, 02:48 PM
My issue with "try before you buy" is that come the end of the trial period, if said player is a success and we want him then the price suddenly inflates and the selling club will probably insist on add-ons. However if we punted a bid in for Kamberi now we may be throwing good money after bad and limiting our budget for the future.

Who'd be in Lenny's shoes huh?

McLaren needs games because of the world cup, I don't think we have an option to buy him.

Kamberi was playing in Germany at Karlsruher on loan from Grasshopper Zurich who are a top Swiss team, obviously he's not now in their plans but he's hopefully good enough for our level, if he does well and wants to stay there will be an option in place that a nominal fee will be enough to purchase him. Have a good 5 months look at him if it doesn't work out no harm done but he could be a wee gem and we could get him for a modest fee similar to Slivka.

Borderhibbie76
30-01-2018, 02:48 PM
people need something to moan about!!Yup we've signed another strikers so the moaners need something to moan about on here

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CMurdoch
30-01-2018, 02:49 PM
From the little I have seen of him he looks a good runner at players with the ball but I fear he won't be a good striker.
Massively hope I am wrong.

HoboHarry
30-01-2018, 02:50 PM
From the little I have seen of him he looks a good runner at players with the ball but I fear he won't be a good striker.
Massively hope I am wrong.
Be positive and get behind the team? Pffffttttttt.......:rolleyes:

SRHibs
30-01-2018, 02:51 PM
If he had the same history and was called Phil Cambridge I wouldn’t care but he’s got a cool name so he’s gonna be awesome. Welcome!

SHODAN
30-01-2018, 02:52 PM
I agree that taking players in on short term deals or loans implicitly states that we don't actually think they're that good (as we would be happier to give a longer contract to a "better" player). This is especially worrying where we NEED a top class finisher, and a striker with 4 career goals is highly unlikely to be that. I don't think that's what he's been signed for though.

Hibby soldier
30-01-2018, 02:53 PM
Says he is ready to sign for Hibs when he gets all-clear from injury.........

Hibbyradge
30-01-2018, 02:56 PM
How old is that statement?

6 months? Longer?

jacomo
30-01-2018, 02:56 PM
What about Stokes? You forgot to mention him.

GGTTH


Oh yeah. Unfortunately he seems to have disappeared.

blackpoolhibs
30-01-2018, 03:00 PM
Without Stokes we look very average upfront...not convinced with any of these forwards we've signed.

We've been pretty average with Stokes in the team up front, i'm neither convinced or unconvinced yet with the players we've brought in, after having a wee look at them over a few games, i will let you know though.

CMurdoch
30-01-2018, 03:05 PM
Only a loan to the summer so nothing to lose if the deal goes through.

Good age if he has something about him.

PeeJay
30-01-2018, 03:06 PM
​Here's a view of some of the new Swiss guy Florian Kamberi's work - so welcome and good luck to him :


https://youtu.be/DVPF_qrUOdk

truehibernian
30-01-2018, 03:09 PM
​Here's a view of some of the new Swiss guy Florian Kamberi's work - so welcome and good luck to him :


https://youtu.be/DVPF_qrUOdk

Has 6 and 2 in his shirt number so he is already halfway to becoming a cult hero :greengrin:aok:

CMurdoch
30-01-2018, 03:18 PM
From the little I have seen of him he looks a good runner at players with the ball but I fear he won't be a good striker.
Massively hope I am wrong.


Be positive and get behind the team? Pffffttttttt.......:rolleyes:

Not into negativity for negativities sake, It's just an opinion.
I was pleased about the MacLaren signing. Looks a good poacher and runner off the shoulder but we haven't really seen him yet to make any judgement.

Pleased about the Bain signing.

Rherras might prove a good bit of business. Juat need to wait and see.

I wasn't down about the Hearts result because that isn't looking at the big picture.

My only concern about McGinn is getting the right money for him

The only issues bugging me at the moment are Stokes and the possible loss of McGeough at the end of the season.
All else is good.

My_Wife_Camille
30-01-2018, 03:23 PM
If he can score 4 goals from open play and score a few penalties between now and the end of the season then he’ll be a fine replacement for Stokes

SRHibs
30-01-2018, 03:25 PM
​Here's a view of some of the new Swiss guy Florian Kamberi's work - so welcome and good luck to him :


https://youtu.be/DVPF_qrUOdk

Nothing is showing up for me. Or is that the joke?

HoboHarry
30-01-2018, 03:29 PM
Nothing is showing up for me. Or is that the joke?
Video works for me mate :confused:

Thecat23
30-01-2018, 03:32 PM
Video works for me mate :confused:

Thought it was just me glad you asked 😂

SRHibs
30-01-2018, 03:32 PM
Video works for me mate :confused:

Must be because I’m on Hibs.net Lite.

HoboHarry
30-01-2018, 03:34 PM
Must be because I’m on Hibs.net Lite.
Try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVPF_qrUOdk

southern hibby
30-01-2018, 03:36 PM
Oh yeah. Unfortunately he seems to have disappeared.

👍 that’s what I thought too.


GGTTH

BSEJVT
30-01-2018, 04:23 PM
​Here's a view of some of the new Swiss guy Florian Kamberi's work - so welcome and good luck to him :


https://youtu.be/DVPF_qrUOdk

Really didn't like the happy clappy skippy thing at the start :-)

Seriously though looks good enough and as what we have isn't working he deserves a chance.

Good Luck to him

JeMeSouviens
30-01-2018, 04:30 PM
Really didn't like the happy clappy skippy thing at the start :-)

Seriously though looks good enough and as what we have isn't working he deserves a chance.

Good Luck to him

:agree: on the skippy clappy.

Although he hasn't exactly set the heather alight, Grasshopper is a pretty good standard, and he at least managed a reasonable number of games for them. 4th in the Swiss league, I'd expect them to comfortably beat any Scottish team bar Celtc.

Anyway, welcome and good luck, Florian!

Jones28
30-01-2018, 04:32 PM
Without Stokes we look very average upfront...not convinced with any of these forwards we've signed.

I'll wait until they get more than 15 minutes in the park until I worry.

More often than not Stokes has been like a man short this season.

thebausburst
30-01-2018, 04:41 PM
Mark Fotheringham raves about this guy, he was Kamberi’s assistant manager at Karlsruher and is the man who recommended the player to Lennon:thumbsup:

Souter96Mac
30-01-2018, 04:44 PM
Mark Fotheringham raves about this guy, he was Kamberi’s assistant manager at Karlsruher and is the man who recommended the player to Lennon:thumbsup:

Sounds positive! At least Lenny has had a good 2 weeks to look at him and get a good opinion

RossScott1991
30-01-2018, 05:14 PM
Good luck to him.

Not confident, “adds physical presence” words by lennon. Any chance of signing a goal scorer who we know will add goals?

I hope I’m wrong and he can shut me up. just feels like I’ve stepped into a time machine and it’s back to signing rowan vine and kuqi type signings under lennon.

Stevie Reid
30-01-2018, 05:39 PM
Good luck to him.

Not confident, “adds physical presence” words by lennon. Any chance of signing a goal scorer who we know will add goals?

I hope I’m wrong and he can shut me up. just feels like I’ve stepped into a time machine and it’s back to signing rowan vine and kuqi type signings under lennon.

Kuqi was 35 when he signed for Hibs, Vine was 30 - both were journeymen who had decent spells with a couple of clubs.

Which signings are you comparing them to? I presume it's not Kamberi

RossScott1991
30-01-2018, 05:45 PM
Kuqi was 35 when he signed for Hibs, Vine was 30 - both were journeymen who had decent spells with a couple of clubs.

Which signings are you comparing them to? I presume it's not Kamberi

I’m not talking about the age I’m talking about the quality.

Holt and Commons aren’t exactly spring chickens. Whittaker on a 3 year deal.

I just don’t have confidence in him with his ability to spot a player tbh. Certainly wouldn’t be confident to trust him with money we make from McGinn. He will probaly want to sign heskey and commons on long term deals with the money.

I’m sorry, as I say I hope my words are rammed down my throat. But 2 strikers we haven’t a clue about on loan deals, I just can’t bring myself to do cartwheels at the thought. He’s messed up recruitment big time this month.

ancient hibee
30-01-2018, 05:59 PM
I hope they get rammed down your throat as well.Not sure that fans have to know all about strikers from all over the world before they’re considered suitable to sign for us.Loads of players have been signed in the past who the vast majority had never heard of and were big successes.

Iain G
30-01-2018, 06:04 PM
I’m not talking about the age I’m talking about the quality.

Holt and Commons aren’t exactly spring chickens. Whittaker on a 3 year deal.

I just don’t have confidence in him with his ability to spot a player tbh. Certainly wouldn’t be confident to trust him with money we make from McGinn. He will probaly want to sign heskey and commons on long term deals with the money.

I’m sorry, as I say I hope my words are rammed down my throat. But 2 strikers we haven’t a clue about on loan deals, I just can’t bring myself to do cartwheels at the thought. He’s messed up recruitment big time this month.

That last statement is at best unproven speculation and at worst total negative bollox.

Goalkeeper injured, replacement signed.
Both right backs injured, replacement signed who can also cover at left back.
Not enough goals, international forward signed with good goalscoring record.
Potential one or two energetic forward players coming in.

McGinn not leaving this window, McGeough not leaving this window. Stokes hopefully leaving and taking his unprofessional outlook with him.

Seems fine to me?

sixtwo
30-01-2018, 06:05 PM
I’m not talking about the age I’m talking about the quality.

Holt and Commons aren’t exactly spring chickens. Whittaker on a 3 year deal.

I just don’t have confidence in him with his ability to spot a player tbh. Certainly wouldn’t be confident to trust him with money we make from McGinn. He will probaly want to sign heskey and commons on long term deals with the money.

I’m sorry, as I say I hope my words are rammed down my throat. But 2 strikers we haven’t a clue about on loan deals, I just can’t bring myself to do cartwheels at the thought. He’s messed up recruitment big time this month.


I agree with this 100%

These types of signings are a waste of a wage. What has the big Lithuanian contributed? He was clearly a panic acquisition. I fear this guy is too. I am disappointed with our lack of ambition in the transfer market, especially when we know we will be cashing in on McGinn now or in the summer

Hibby Kay-Yay
30-01-2018, 06:05 PM
I’m not talking about the age I’m talking about the quality.

Holt and Commons aren’t exactly spring chickens. Whittaker on a 3 year deal.

I just don’t have confidence in him with his ability to spot a player tbh. Certainly wouldn’t be confident to trust him with money we make from McGinn. He will probaly want to sign heskey and commons on long term deals with the money.

I’m sorry, as I say I hope my words are rammed down my throat. But 2 strikers we haven’t a clue about on loan deals, I just can’t bring myself to do cartwheels at the thought. He’s messed up recruitment big time this month.

You’re talking about Craig here right, rather than Lennon? It’s Craig that heads up the recruitment.

Heisenberg
30-01-2018, 06:07 PM
Seems the guy tweeting is a freelance journo who does some work for Sky. Disappointing way for it all to end.

Weir07
30-01-2018, 06:07 PM
I’m not talking about the age I’m talking about the quality.

Holt and Commons aren’t exactly spring chickens. Whittaker on a 3 year deal.

I just don’t have confidence in him with his ability to spot a player tbh. Certainly wouldn’t be confident to trust him with money we make from McGinn. He will probaly want to sign heskey and commons on long term deals with the money.

I’m sorry, as I say I hope my words are rammed down my throat. But 2 strikers we haven’t a clue about on loan deals, I just can’t bring myself to do cartwheels at the thought. He’s messed up recruitment big time this month.

I agree, looks like all the good work done by Stubbs in recruiting quality players is getting undone. These recent signings smack of players hawked to clubs by agents. Thankfully only short term deals but not exactly optimistic for the second half of the season.

CMurdoch
30-01-2018, 06:25 PM
Good luck to him.

Not confident, “adds physical presence” words by lennon. Any chance of signing a goal scorer who we know will add goals?

I hope I’m wrong and he can shut me up. just feels like I’ve stepped into a time machine and it’s back to signing rowan vine and kuqi type signings under lennon.

MacLaren is the one expected to score the goals.
Time will tell.

Iain G
30-01-2018, 06:27 PM
I agree with this 100%

These types of signings are a waste of a wage. What has the big Lithuanian contributed? He was clearly a panic acquisition. I fear this guy is too. I am disappointed with our lack of ambition in the transfer market, especially when we know we will be cashing in on McGinn now or in the summer

Yet Lennon had been tracking Big Dave for over a year? Sometimes signings just don't work out through no fault of anyone.

IWasThere2016
30-01-2018, 06:28 PM
SKY sources "Hibs agree to terminate Stokes contract"

oneone73
30-01-2018, 06:30 PM
SKY sources "Hibs agree to terminate Stokes contract"

Wonder if that means sacking him or buying out his contract?

B.H.F.C
30-01-2018, 06:32 PM
Wonder if that means sacking him or buying out his contract?

If there has been disaplinary issues then I'd like to think we aren't paying him off.

Paisley Hibby
30-01-2018, 06:32 PM
Seems the guy tweeting is a freelance journo who does some work for Sky. Disappointing way for it all to end.

If that's true then "agreement" suggests Stokes has trousered yet another fee for terminating a contract. I was about to say what a waste of money and then I realised it's probably worth every penny to get rid of the ****. I guess this is what he planned all along. No doubt there's another set of mugs waiting in the wings to pay him a signing on fee (followed by the inevitable).

brog
30-01-2018, 06:34 PM
Yet Lennon had been tracking Big Dave for over a year? Sometimes signings just don't work out through no fault of anyone.

TBH, that's more worrying! NL does like a big guy up front but I'm not sure he's great at assessing the quality of these players. The jury's still out on Holt's impact at ER & NL's pursuit of Heskey was embarrassing.

bingo70
30-01-2018, 06:35 PM
Think it’s probably safe to assume John Mcginn will be staying now though which has to be good news.

murray26
30-01-2018, 06:35 PM
I hope we’ve not lost to much money on this.. looks like a expensive mistake..

WoreTheGreen
30-01-2018, 06:36 PM
Said days ago he has engineered a move for another signing fee. Sad end

Ozyhibby
30-01-2018, 06:37 PM
SKY sources "Hibs agree to terminate Stokes contract"

Frees up a wage. Creative midfielder please Hibs.🤞


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cabbageandribs1875
30-01-2018, 06:43 PM
i have a strong dislike for stokes now, waster, i'd like to wish his new club good luck though

Stevie Reid
30-01-2018, 06:45 PM
I agree, looks like all the good work done by Stubbs in recruiting quality players is getting undone. These recent signings smack of players hawked to clubs by agents. Thankfully only short term deals but not exactly optimistic for the second half of the season.

How is Stubbs work being undone? Lennon took a squad that was in the Championship and won the league at a canter - we sit four points clear in 4th place in the SPL with 14 games left. He's taken us to two semi finals out of four knockout tournaments also. What work has been undone exactly?

It's insane the amount of people on here that are totally slating player recruitment - if we finish in the top four every season, I hope it remains as "bad" as this year.

18Craig75
30-01-2018, 06:48 PM
How is Stubbs work being undone? Lennon took a squad that was in the Championship and won the league at a canter - we sit four points clear in 4th place in the SPL with 14 games left. He's taken us to two semi finals out of four knockout tournaments also. What work has been undone exactly?

It's insane the amount of people on here that are totally slating player recruitment - if we finish in the top four every season, I hope it remains as "bad" as this year.

Agreed. Although, I’m not sure of the amount as it seems to just be the same few posters repeating the same old negative lines on every thread!!


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murray26
30-01-2018, 06:50 PM
Has Fontaine been told he can go..?

Keyser Sauzee
30-01-2018, 06:54 PM
Wonder if by agreeing with Stokes to leave tonight before the deadline shuts then we might have something else in the pipeline for tomoro? Not sure why they would do it otherwise. Ofcourse they don’t want him round while he’s not being considered but I just think the timing means we might not be done this window.

Stevie Reid
30-01-2018, 06:56 PM
Wonder if by agreeing with Stokes to leave tonight before the deadline shuts then we might have something else in the pipeline for tomoro? Not sure why they would do it otherwise. Ofcourse they don’t want him round while he’s not being considered but I just think the timing means we might not be done this window.

Well we've just freed who I presume was our highest earner, so I would think that work would be done to get someone in in this scenario.

Though we could maybe earmark some of it for Dylan's contract offer.

Heisenberg
30-01-2018, 06:58 PM
Has Fontaine been told he can go..?

According to the EEN he has. Same with Big Dave.

B.H.F.C
30-01-2018, 06:59 PM
Well we've just freed who I presume was our highest earner, so I would think that work would be done to get someone in in this scenario.

Though we could maybe earmark some of it for Dylan's contract offer.

Unless we've had to blow any budget on a settlement. Although given what has apparently been going on I'd hope it's not cost us anything to get rid.

Stevie Reid
30-01-2018, 07:03 PM
Unless we've had to blow any budget on a settlement. Although given what has apparently been going on I'd hope it's not cost us anything to get rid.

I'd like to think not, though obviously neither of us can know for sure.

Joe6-2
30-01-2018, 07:03 PM
Unless we've had to blow any budget on a settlement. Although given what has apparently been going on I'd hope it's not cost us anything to get rid.

I should bloody hope not!!

Paisley Hibby
30-01-2018, 07:06 PM
Wonder if by agreeing with Stokes to leave tonight before the deadline shuts then we might have something else in the pipeline for tomoro? Not sure why they would do it otherwise. Ofcourse they don’t want him round while he’s not being considered but I just think the timing means we might not be done this window.
More likely it's because it suits Stokes so he can sign for someone else - otherwise he could have sat tight picking up a wage for doing hee haw. I'd be surprised if we haven't had to give him a pay off though. Which maybe means this had cost us rather than saved money. So more likely to be about getting rid of a bag of trouble while we can rather than replacing.

Callum_62
30-01-2018, 07:07 PM
Unless we've had to blow any budget on a settlement. Although given what has apparently been going on I'd hope it's not cost us anything to get rid.

whats been going on?

Paisley Hibby
30-01-2018, 07:09 PM
Wonder if that means sacking him or buying out his contract?

I think the clue is in "agree". That's unlikely to mean sacked but I'd love to be wrong.

Weir07
30-01-2018, 07:11 PM
How is Stubbs work being undone? Lennon took a squad that was in the Championship and won the league at a canter - we sit four points clear in 4th place in the SPL with 14 games left. He's taken us to two semi finals out of four knockout tournaments also. What work has been undone exactly?

It's insane the amount of people on here that are totally slating player recruitment - if we finish in the top four every season, I hope it remains as "bad" as this year.

What I said was the good work that Stubbs had done in recruiting players was getting undone, this is Lennon's fourth window and most of the first team regulars were signed by the previous manager. But to answer you point about promotion and the semi finals, we got promoted from a weak championship and (bar Hearts) we should have beaten every team on the two cup runs to the semi's, fantastic Derby at Easter Road I grant you. I just go to the home games and I've found the performances to be pretty dull, bar a couple of exceptions this season.

B.H.F.C
30-01-2018, 07:13 PM
whats been going on?

Your guess is as good as mines. But it's fairly obvious there has been disaplinary issues so would be disappointing if we had to pay anything to get rid on the back of that. I don't think we will have.

Stevie Reid
30-01-2018, 07:17 PM
What I said was the good work that Stubbs had done in recruiting players was getting undone, this is Lennon's fourth window and most of the first team regulars were signed by the previous manager. But to answer you point about promotion and the semi finals, we got promoted from a weak championship and (bar Hearts) we should have beaten every team on the two cup runs to the semi's, fantastic Derby at Easter Road I grant you. I just go to the home games and I've found the performances to be pretty dull, bar a couple of exceptions this season.

The first job of any manager coming to a club is to get the best out of who's already there - Lennon has done that. Stubbs didn't have that option as we had released practically a whole first team squad.

Signing players provides competition for places, and can motivate players that are already there.

The crazy thing is that many were hailing the summer window as our best ever - four months and a semi final later, we sit clear in fourth place in the SPL, yet our recruitment has been terrible? Doesnt really stack up, does it? Something is working.

Callum_62
30-01-2018, 07:18 PM
any idea if we will replace stokes?

bingo70
30-01-2018, 07:18 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2164451/celtic-scott-bain-transfer-signing-dundee-hibs-goalkeeping-crisis/

Bain to Celtic?

Anyone able to make sense of that?

jacomo
30-01-2018, 07:18 PM
I hope we’ve not lost to much money on this.. looks like a expensive mistake..


Undoubtedly.

We took a big gamble on Stokes and it’s not paid off. As a club we will move on but those fans demanding we ‘spend some money’ just aren’t paying attention.

Hibeesmad
30-01-2018, 07:20 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2164451/celtic-scott-bain-transfer-signing-dundee-hibs-goalkeeping-crisis/

Bain to Celtic?

Anyone able to make sense of that?

Would be surprised if we were to allow that to happen.

Heisenberg
30-01-2018, 07:21 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2164451/celtic-scott-bain-transfer-signing-dundee-hibs-goalkeeping-crisis/

Bain to Celtic?

Anyone able to make sense of that?

Absolutely none. Are they just being linked to every random goalie until one sticks? Would be disappointed to see him leave, his arrival has given Marciano a kick up the arse judging by recent performances.

Tornadoes70
30-01-2018, 07:22 PM
The first job of any manager coming to a club is to get the best out of who's already there - Lennon has done that. Stubbs didn't have that option as we had released practically a whole first team squad.

Signing players provides competition for places, and can motivate players that are already there.

The crazy thing is that many were hailing the summer window as our best ever - four months and a semi final later, we sit clear in fourth place in the SPL, yet our recruitment has been terrible? Doesnt really stack up, does it? Something is working.

:top marks

Absolutely 100%

Mon the Cabbage!!!

Hfc_Since1875
30-01-2018, 07:22 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2164451/celtic-scott-bain-transfer-signing-dundee-hibs-goalkeeping-crisis/

Bain to Celtic?

Anyone able to make sense of that?


They can have him if we get Griffiths on loan🤔

Would not be impressed if we back down so to speak and let this happen!

Releasing a keeper(from the loan) to allow him to be number 2 at Celtic and weaken ourselves! Rocky has certainly been on form since SB’s arrival!

Lee Marvin
30-01-2018, 07:23 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2164451/celtic-scott-bain-transfer-signing-dundee-hibs-goalkeeping-crisis/

Bain to Celtic?

Anyone able to make sense of that?

Laughable story. Aye, no bother celtic. Just have our keeper so we need to find a new one with one day to go!!

Billychaotic182
30-01-2018, 07:29 PM
This Bain story better not be true. Why t would we weaken our own team to strengthen Celtic. If Lennon allows this I feel that this place will go into melt down. Bad enough he left our training camp to go to a celtic event. Letting a player leave to sign for them would be a right kick in the balls.

Joe6-2
30-01-2018, 07:30 PM
This Bain story better not be true. Why t would we weaken our own team to strengthen Celtic. If Lennon allows this I feel that this place will go into melt down. Bad enough he left our training camp to go to a celtic event. Letting a player leave to sign for them would be a right kick in the balls.

This will be that dick Rodgers, he doesn’t like Hibs for some reason!

bingo70
30-01-2018, 07:31 PM
This Bain story better not be true. Why t would we weaken our own team to strengthen Celtic. If Lennon allows this I feel that this place will go into melt down. Bad enough he left our training camp to go to a celtic event. Letting a player leave to sign for them would be a right kick in the balls.

I’d assume we would be compensated financially and if we can get someone else in he may decide it’s a worthwhile deal for us.

green day
30-01-2018, 07:32 PM
Amazing how a story from The Sun turns people against the club!

Who knows, maybe the terms of the loan allowed Dundee and Bain to talk to a club that wanted to sign him on a permanent deal?

It's not always "because Lennon is a Celtic fan".......

GreenPJ
30-01-2018, 07:33 PM
This Bain story better not be true. Why t would we weaken our own team to strengthen Celtic. If Lennon allows this I feel that this place will go into melt down. Bad enough he left our training camp to go to a celtic event. Letting a player leave to sign for them would be a right kick in the balls.

Unless there is scope that they might give us one of their decent prospects on loan in return?

Speedway
30-01-2018, 07:35 PM
This Bain story better not be true. Why t would we weaken our own team to strengthen Celtic. If Lennon allows this I feel that this place will go into melt down. Bad enough he left our training camp to go to a celtic event. Letting a player leave to sign for them would be a right kick in the balls.

What Celtic event did he go to? Or was it not a Celtic event at all?

Heisenberg
30-01-2018, 07:35 PM
This Bain story better not be true. Why t would we weaken our own team to strengthen Celtic. If Lennon allows this I feel that this place will go into melt down. Bad enough he left our training camp to go to a celtic event. Letting a player leave to sign for them would be a right kick in the balls.

What if Dundee are allowed to cancel the loan and make themselves some money and we can do nothing about it?

Billychaotic182
30-01-2018, 07:39 PM
What if Dundee are allowed to cancel the loan and make themselves some money and we can do nothing about it?

Be surprised if we allowed such a clause in a contract. If that’s they case why sign him on loan at all?

Like to add that I said that predicting that this would go into a Celtic Lennon love in. It is not my over all opinion. But it would be a blow if we allow this to happen. As in if we do in fact have a say in this and let it happen, but also bring no one in

JeMeSouviens
30-01-2018, 07:40 PM
What if Dundee are allowed to cancel the loan and make themselves some money and we can do nothing about it?

He’s registered a Hibs player until his loan is up. We’d have to agree.

One Day Soon
30-01-2018, 07:44 PM
What I said was the good work that Stubbs had done in recruiting players was getting undone, this is Lennon's fourth window and most of the first team regulars were signed by the previous manager. But to answer you point about promotion and the semi finals, we got promoted from a weak championship and (bar Hearts) we should have beaten every team on the two cup runs to the semi's, fantastic Derby at Easter Road I grant you. I just go to the home games and I've found the performances to be pretty dull, bar a couple of exceptions this season.


I'm afraid that is bollocks IMHO.

One Day Soon
30-01-2018, 07:47 PM
This Bain story better not be true. Why t would we weaken our own team to strengthen Celtic. If Lennon allows this I feel that this place will go into melt down. Bad enough he left our training camp to go to a celtic event. Letting a player leave to sign for them would be a right kick in the balls.

Oh FFS. Evidence?

blackpoolhibs
30-01-2018, 07:50 PM
I agree with this 100%

These types of signings are a waste of a wage. What has the big Lithuanian contributed? He was clearly a panic acquisition. I fear this guy is too. I am disappointed with our lack of ambition in the transfer market, especially when we know we will be cashing in on McGinn now or in the summer

Apart from the fact we scouted him for a while, and hoped he'd make the improvements needed to push on and get in our team.

He didn't, it happens, panic my arse.

Famous Fiver
30-01-2018, 07:50 PM
They could maybe loan us the hot Chelsea boy they got today.

Eaststand
30-01-2018, 07:51 PM
Oh FFS. Evidence?

A big boy said it then ran away, so it obviously must be true.
Somebody else overheard it, posted it on here, so it is now a well known fact ;-)

GGTTH

Kato
30-01-2018, 08:05 PM
TBH, that's more worrying! NL does like a big guy up front but I'm not sure he's great at assessing the quality of these players. The jury's still out on Holt's impact at ER &


If the jury are still pondering Holt's impact then all 12 of them know nowt about footy.

oneone73
30-01-2018, 08:11 PM
If the jury are still pondering Holt's impact then all 12 of them know nowt about footy.

Pedantic, I know, but 15 in Scotland

hibbyfraelibby
30-01-2018, 08:14 PM
Wonder if that means sacking him or buying out his contract?

Sacked. In breach of contract.

dirtydirk
30-01-2018, 08:18 PM
Stokes probably our highest earner of the books and Bain of the books also. Might be a bit too optimistic but maybe we are about to pull off a decent signing tomorrow. We’re pretty good at keeping things under wraps until they get unveiled

IWasThere2016
30-01-2018, 08:21 PM
Talk is Cellic to pay £1m for Hendry and Bain from Dundee.

Cellic were interested in Bain pre-season

Aldo
30-01-2018, 08:24 PM
Talk is Cellic to pay £1m for Hendry and Bain from Dundee. Cellic were interested in Bain pre-season

That would be too good to turn down for Dundee!

Unseen work
30-01-2018, 08:27 PM
Unfortunately Hibs would need to agree for Bain to leave and that won’t happen.

Unlesss.

Bain returns and they get the money. Hubs get Kamara/Mark Ohara in return

Sign a keeper on loan from elswhere

CRAZYHIBBY
30-01-2018, 08:29 PM
Whats logan doing these days?

IWasThere2016
30-01-2018, 08:33 PM
That would be too good to turn down for Dundee!

Correct..

Heisenberg
30-01-2018, 08:33 PM
Wee Tam McManus with the latest....

“Top earner off the books at Hibernian gives them room to bring in another striker with a good pedigree. A couple have been contacted in the English Premiership and Championship with a view to a loan deal until the Summer. 👀”

Suggests that we’d be going for Kamberi plus another one.

Aldo
30-01-2018, 08:35 PM
Wee Tam McManus with the latest.... “Top earner off the books at Hibernian gives them room to bring in another striker with a good pedigree. A couple have been contacted in the English Premiership and Championship with a view to a loan deal until the Summer. ddc40” Suggests that we’d be going for Kamberi plus another one.

Tomorrow going to be interesting??

One Day Soon
30-01-2018, 08:36 PM
Wee Tam McManus with the latest....

“Top earner off the books at Hibernian gives them room to bring in another striker with a good pedigree. A couple have been contacted in the English Premiership and Championship with a view to a loan deal until the Summer. 👀”

Suggests that we’d be going for Kamberi plus another one.


:hyper

Unseen work
30-01-2018, 08:36 PM
Wee Tam McManus with the latest....

“Top earner off the books at Hibernian gives them room to bring in another striker with a good pedigree. A couple have been contacted in the English Premiership and Championship with a view to a loan deal until the Summer. 👀”

Suggests that we’d be going for Kamberi plus another one.

Swedish lad?.....

ancient hibee
30-01-2018, 08:40 PM
Stokes to Hearts now?

green day
30-01-2018, 08:42 PM
Stokes to Hearts now?

That would be a huge amount of Dosh on strikers, laff, Naismith, and stokes would cost thick end of £20k a week.

One Day Soon
30-01-2018, 08:43 PM
Stokes to Hearts now?

I know I have a very dark sense of humour but I have to admit that would be very, very funny in a sick way.

Juice-Terry
30-01-2018, 08:43 PM
Swedish lad?.....

Very likely.

cleanyman
30-01-2018, 08:44 PM
That would be a huge amount of Dosh on strikers, laff, Naismith, and stokes would cost thick end of £20k a week.

Correct.

Nae chance.

staunchhibby
30-01-2018, 08:44 PM
Have Hibs officialy announced anything or is it whispers at the moment

Billy Whizz
30-01-2018, 08:52 PM
Stokes to Hearts now?

If Neil can’t manage him..., can’t think CL could

Edinburgh Green
30-01-2018, 09:05 PM
Wee Tam McManus with the latest....

“Top earner off the books at Hibernian gives them room to bring in another striker with a good pedigree. A couple have been contacted in the English Premiership and Championship with a view to a loan deal until the Summer. 👀”

Suggests that we’d be going for Kamberi plus another one.

Has McManus ever been right with his Hibs info?

Thecat23
30-01-2018, 09:06 PM
If Neil can’t manage him..., can’t think CL could

Are Hearts fans really thinking they are signing Stokes?

snooky
30-01-2018, 09:14 PM
I think the clue is in "agree". That's unlikely to mean sacked but I'd love to be wrong.

It could be one of the "mutual concent" statements where a manager is told he's being binned however, so that he can go with some dignity, they agree to tell the punters it's a mutual decision.

Speedway
30-01-2018, 09:23 PM
Ross County are in for Fonts.

CapitalGreen
30-01-2018, 09:24 PM
Have Hibs officialy announced anything or is it whispers at the moment

www.hibernianfc.co.uk for official announcements

JimboHibs
30-01-2018, 09:26 PM
Ross County are in for Fonts.

Great lad and a fantastic professional,be a good signing where ever he goes.

Unseen work
30-01-2018, 09:27 PM
Ross County are in for Fonts.

Be a good move for all parties.

blackpoolhibs
30-01-2018, 09:28 PM
20110 :faf::faf:

S4uzee
30-01-2018, 09:29 PM
20110 :faf::faf:

Don’t ...you’ll get shot down even though it’s obvious how he’ll turn out

One Day Soon
30-01-2018, 09:31 PM
Don’t ...you’ll get shot down even though it’s obvious how he’ll turn out

Gigantic whoosh perhaps?

Speedway
30-01-2018, 09:32 PM
Don’t ...you’ll get shot down even though it’s obvious how he’ll turn out

Have you read the last bit?

S4uzee
30-01-2018, 09:34 PM
Have you read the last bit?

Learn to scroll 😂

One Day Soon
30-01-2018, 09:34 PM
Have you read the last bit?

I think not.

blackpoolhibs
30-01-2018, 09:34 PM
Don’t ...you’ll get shot down even though it’s obvious how he’ll turn out


Gigantic whoosh perhaps?


Have you read the last bit?


:greengrin

Unseen work
30-01-2018, 09:42 PM
Aaron Wilbraham?

SRHibs
30-01-2018, 09:43 PM
Aaron Wilbraham?

Only 38? Get him on a 4 year deal pronto.

Heisenberg
30-01-2018, 09:45 PM
Aaron Wilbraham?

No thanks. Could do without a 38 year old warming the bench.

snooky
30-01-2018, 09:50 PM
Only 38? Get him on a 4 year deal pronto.

Waist measurement? :dunno:

Heisenberg
30-01-2018, 10:11 PM
Liam Fontaine to Ross County. Stokes out. Bain loan possibly coming to an end. Big Dave maybe away as well.

That’s a decent bit of the wage budget freed up surely.

GreenCastle
30-01-2018, 10:11 PM
Fontaine to Ross County it seems.

Lennon saying he’s behind all other centre backs.

Really liked Fontaine - top guy and cup winning legend.

Gutted he will be moving on.

Unseen work
30-01-2018, 10:12 PM
Going by Tam McManus’ tweet

Daryl Murphy?

Previously signed by Lennon and is the type he is looking for.

eastmainsmsh
30-01-2018, 10:13 PM
are Norwich in for SJM :confused::confused:

Unseen work
30-01-2018, 10:16 PM
are Norwich in for SJM :confused::confused:

Don’t think so? What have you heard?

The_Horde
30-01-2018, 10:16 PM
Going by Tam McManus’ tweet

Daryl Murphy?

Previously signed by Lennon and is the type he is looking for.

Assuming we're in the market for a more creative type like stokes considering kamberi is the big striker we need and Murphy is huge. Probably someone like Chris Maguire who can bang in a goal from nothing.

snooky
30-01-2018, 10:18 PM
Liam Fontaine to Ross County. Stokes out. Bain loan possibly coming to an end. Big Dave maybe away as well.

That’s a decent bit of the wage budget freed up surely.

Fonts : Good luck, big man & a' the best if you go to RC.
Stokes : Bye bye. Thanks for that memorial day.
Bain : Hello,cheerio.
Big Dave : Bye and good luck, thanks for coming.

Speedway
30-01-2018, 10:28 PM
Going by Tam McManus’ tweet

Daryl Murphy?

Previously signed by Lennon and is the type he is looking for.

That would be some signing for us.

Just Jimmy
30-01-2018, 10:34 PM
That would be some signing for us.he didnt play for forest tonight. not even on the bench. cant see it though. he's been scoring, they just bought him in the summer and hes only a,half season away from promotion with Newcastle.

would be a great signing tho. go on lenny.

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calumhibee1
30-01-2018, 10:35 PM
That would be a huge amount of Dosh on strikers, laff, Naismith, and stokes would cost thick end of £20k a week.

If the rumours are true they’re past that point without Stokes.

Hibby70
30-01-2018, 11:09 PM
Going by Tam McManus’ tweet

Daryl Murphy?

Previously signed by Lennon and is the type he is looking for.

Surely we've no chance of this?

CMurdoch
30-01-2018, 11:10 PM
Wonder if that means sacking him or buying out his contract?


Sacked. In breach of contract.

If Leanne has indeed managed to sack him by going through the steps of verbal, written warnings etc it will be one of her greatest victories given she will have removed Stokes without shovelling massive amounts of money into his pockets as Blackburn had to do. It would be great to find out but doubt we ever will officially.

CMurdoch
30-01-2018, 11:13 PM
Surely we've no chance of this?

The same Daryl Murphy who Celtic quickly binned for being not very good.
The same Daryl Murphy who will be 35 years old in just over a month.
The same Daryl Murphy who is 6 months into a lucrative 3 year contract.
Don't see it.

southern hibby
30-01-2018, 11:32 PM
Can Bain actually sign for Celtic this season? I thought a player can only sign for 2 clubs within the same season from the same country and not anymore. Or is it they can only play for two clubs within the same season?


GGTTH

basehibby
31-01-2018, 12:07 AM
Sad to see Fonts go - he never let us down and really seemed to love playing for Hibs (including one famous day in May :greengrin). We've got a strong central defence at the mo but he would have strolled into many of the Hibs back lines I've seen over the years - all the best big man and hope it works out well for you :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Tornadoes70
31-01-2018, 12:18 AM
If Fonts goes then best of luck and best wishes. Think most of us would wish him well!!!

Mon the Cabbage!!!

Stuart93
31-01-2018, 05:28 AM
are Norwich in for SJM :confused::confused:

Would be hard for any player to sign a contract with another team when they're on the pitch 👀

SouthMoroccoStu
31-01-2018, 05:44 AM
Can Bain actually sign for Celtic this season? I thought a player can only sign for 2 clubs within the same season from the same country and not anymore. Or is it they can only play for two clubs within the same season?


GGTTH

Genuinely just thinking that

There must be a limit

bingo70
31-01-2018, 06:05 AM
are Norwich in for SJM :confused::confused:

Is that in the media this morning?

Can’t see anything about that on twitter.

eastmainsmsh
31-01-2018, 06:25 AM
just asking dont know to be honest heard someone saying last night prob at wind up

Bobby Moore
31-01-2018, 07:02 AM
Daily record has us linked with a possible player swap with Dundee for a deal for Scott Allan?
He's on loan to Dundee from Celtic. Dunno how that would work?

WellingtonHibby
31-01-2018, 07:06 AM
Sad to see Fonts go - he never let us down and really seemed to love playing for Hibs (including one famous day in May :greengrin). We've got a strong central defence at the mo but he would have strolled into many of the Hibs back lines I've seen over the years - all the best big man and hope it works out well for you :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:


I cite the league Cup final vs Ross County

WestStandWillie
31-01-2018, 07:11 AM
Aw tha best Fonts :aok::flag:

Dave = meh, dinnae hate the lad, dinnae love the lad. Never given a chance.

Bain = No be able to be registered with 3 clubs in a season. Will also become the Zaluska of Scottish fitbaw.

Stokes = No-one can ever take the 21st May away. He's a legend who shouldnae have come back for a 3rd spell. Does it taint what he achieved in spell 2? Naw.

Today's gonnae be fairly busy I reckon. Aw I want to personally see is John McGinn in a Hibs jersey at 7:45 tonight.

One Day Soon
31-01-2018, 07:11 AM
Daily record has us linked with a possible player swap with Dundee for a deal for Scott Allan?
He's on loan to Dundee from Celtic. Dunno how that would work?

That will mean the Record has been reading threads on here and turned random poster guesswork into a 'story'.

JimBHibees
31-01-2018, 07:13 AM
I cite the league Cup final vs Ross County

In a good or a bad way. :greengrin

Hamish
31-01-2018, 07:17 AM
That will mean the Record has been reading threads on here and turned random poster guesswork into a 'story'.

It's in the Daily Star print edition according to the BBC Football gossip page.

Brooster
31-01-2018, 07:19 AM
Can Bain actually sign for Celtic this season? I thought a player can only sign for 2 clubs within the same season from the same country and not anymore. Or is it they can only play for two clubs within the same season?


GGTTH

You can only play for 2 clubs per season but sign for 3.

spike220
31-01-2018, 07:22 AM
We are in for Scot Alan I am hearing!!!!

spike220
31-01-2018, 07:25 AM
Laughable story. Aye, no bother celtic. Just have our keeper so we need to find a new one with one day to go!!

I think someone is coming the other way to us ad part of the deal.

spike220
31-01-2018, 07:27 AM
Aside from Scott Brown, Allan is the best midfielder I have ever seen play for Hibs. Would take him back in a heartbeat.

Aye

Borderhibbie76
31-01-2018, 07:34 AM
Daily record has us linked with a possible player swap with Dundee for a deal for Scott Allan?
He's on loan to Dundee from Celtic. Dunno how that would work?Lifter straight off here last night....lazy journalism at its best

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Heisenberg
31-01-2018, 07:40 AM
Daily record has us linked with a possible player swap with Dundee for a deal for Scott Allan?
He's on loan to Dundee from Celtic. Dunno how that would work?

Would work the same way that Celtc supposedly sign Bain. Loan cancelled and permanent transfer made between Celtc/Hibs. Seems very unlikely that Dundee would agree to let Allan’s loan be cancelled though, he’s a key player for them.

easty
31-01-2018, 07:40 AM
Lifter straight off here last night....lazy journalism at its best

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Absolutely.

Hermit Crab
31-01-2018, 07:41 AM
Would work the same way that Celtc supposedly sign Bain. Loan cancelled and permanent transfer made between Celtc/Hibs. Seems very unlikely that Dundee would agree to let Allan’s loan be cancelled though, he’s a key player for them.


He's mainly a sub for them is he not?

huggie1875
31-01-2018, 07:42 AM
Barker tweeted the word "FREE" last night wonder if its football related ie he's been freed by Man C

Heisenberg
31-01-2018, 07:43 AM
He's mainly a sub for them is he not?

I thought he played most weeks? Could be wrong, I didn’t base it on any facts whatsoever.

Just had a check, he seems to have appeared a lot for Dundee but the majority could’ve been off the bench.

BOB MARLEYS DUG
31-01-2018, 07:43 AM
Barker tweeted the word "FREE" last night wonder if its football related ie he's been freed by Man C

Or Stokesy.

snooky
31-01-2018, 07:58 AM
Barker tweeted the word "FREE" last night wonder if its football related ie he's been freed by Man C

Could mean he's fed up here and Man City have recalled him? :dunno:
He's half way through a five year deal with them.

JimBHibees
31-01-2018, 08:02 AM
Would work the same way that Celtc supposedly sign Bain. Loan cancelled and permanent transfer made between Celtc/Hibs. Seems very unlikely that Dundee would agree to let Allan’s loan be cancelled though, he’s a key player for them.

Mostly been on the bench recently.

Souter96Mac
31-01-2018, 08:02 AM
Could mean he's fed up here and Man City have recalled him? :dunno:
He's half way through a five year deal with them.

Hope not. Despite his lack of goals, I love watching him play, when he gets the ball at feet and is facing the defenders he's a real menace. If he can get goals to his game he'll be a star

CRAZYHIBBY
31-01-2018, 08:05 AM
We should be throwing all the free wages together and sign a player we can sell on for a profit in the future

J-C
31-01-2018, 08:14 AM
Would work the same way that Celtc supposedly sign Bain. Loan cancelled and permanent transfer made between Celtc/Hibs. Seems very unlikely that Dundee would agree to let Allan’s loan be cancelled though, he’s a key player for them.


Unless Celtic have a loan cancel clause in the contract, a lot of teams loan players but have that clause in case they need them later in the season.

Bobby Moore
31-01-2018, 08:23 AM
Twitter suggesting (via Daily Star) that Simon Murray to Dens could be part of a permanent deal for Scott Allan?

SHODAN
31-01-2018, 08:26 AM
Twitter suggesting (via Daily Star) that Simon Murray to Dens could be part of a permanent deal for Scott Allan?

Would hope we're in for another striker if that's the case.

keep the faith
31-01-2018, 08:26 AM
Twitter suggesting (via Daily Star) that Simon Murray to Dens could be part of a permanent deal for Scott Allan?

Would be delighted with that.

Hibeesmad
31-01-2018, 08:27 AM
Would be surprised to see this happen

ForeverHibs
31-01-2018, 08:29 AM
Twitter suggesting (via Daily Star) that Simon Murray to Dens could be part of a permanent deal for Scott Allan?

Would be happy with that.

GloryGlory
31-01-2018, 08:32 AM
Twitter suggesting (via Daily Star) that Simon Murray to Dens could be part of a permanent deal for Scott Allan?

So every forward we signed in the summer is out by the January transfer window?

J-C
31-01-2018, 08:32 AM
Would hope we're in for another striker if that's the case.


We've been playing one up top in the majority of games, Shaw, McLaren and Kamberi would be enough for that, rumours that another striker may be coming but nothing yet. I'd take Allan over Murray as he creates chances, something that's been lacking in this team.

Remember we accepted a bid from a Turkish side but he turned it down.

seanoheimhin
31-01-2018, 08:32 AM
Murray to Dundee on loan, Allan to us, and Bain to Celtic. As much as I think 90% of fans would be happy with that deal, even typing it makes it feel even more ridiculous. Odds of that happening must be so so low.

Dalehibbie
31-01-2018, 08:34 AM
Twitter suggesting (via Daily Star) that Simon Murray to Dens could be part of a permanent deal for Scott Allan?

Why would we give Dundee a player for Scott Alan when he is not their player? Saw it on BBC site seems daft to me.

Paisley Hibby
31-01-2018, 08:35 AM
Twitter suggesting (via Daily Star) that Simon Murray to Dens could be part of a permanent deal for Scott Allan?

But Scott Allan is a Celtic player so how does that work?

houstonhibbee
31-01-2018, 08:38 AM
But Scott Allan is a Celtic player so how does that work?



By the 3 clubs agreeing to it?

IGRIGI
31-01-2018, 08:38 AM
This is turning into an equation that would stump Einstein.

Hibee87
31-01-2018, 08:39 AM
Why would we give Dundee a player for Scott Alan when he is not their player? Saw it on BBC site seems daft to me.

If the loans of both player require Hibs and Dundee respectively to agree to the release then Hibs agree to let Bain go to celtic aslong as we can get Scott Allan, who would need Dundee to agree the release and it would leave them a player down so why would they do it? Hibs throw in Murray to dundee and it would give them the incentive to sanction the release of Allan.
This is all big ifs buts and maybes, but least its not going to be a boring deadline day :greengrin

Paisley Hibby
31-01-2018, 08:40 AM
But Scott Allan is a Celtic player so how does that work?

Celtic swap Allan for Bain. Then we swap Murray for Allan.

As Celtic and Dundee need us to agree to release Bain from his Loan that gives us leverage.

Just a thought. Probably no more weird than what's really going on.

Hibee87
31-01-2018, 08:40 AM
This is turning into an equation that would stump Einstein.

Its like the end of Reservoir Dogs with all guns pointed at one another, it all comes down to who shoots first

Blaster
31-01-2018, 08:40 AM
If the loans of both player require Hibs and Dundee respectively to agree to the release then Hibs agree to let Bain go to celtic aslong as we can get Scott Allan, who would need Dundee to agree the release and it would leave them a player down so why would they do it? Hibs throw in Murray to dundee and it would give them the incentive to sanction the release of Allan.
This is all big ifs buts and maybes, but least its not going to be a boring deadline day :greengrin

Fonts must be gutted. His potential move looks straightforward and boring 😄

MyJo
31-01-2018, 08:44 AM
But Scott Allan is a Celtic player so how does that work?

Scott Allan's loan to Dundee is cancelled in return for us agreeing to cancel Scott Bain's loan, allowing them to sell Bain to Celtic.

Scott Allan signs for us on a permanent deal and we loan a player to Dundee for the rest of the season in return.

If they also sell Jack Hendry we could offer them Fontaine or Porteous for cover for the rest of the season.

Hibee87
31-01-2018, 08:47 AM
Fonts must be gutted. His potential move looks straightforward and boring 😄

Aye, no imagination in that move at all. such a dull move. Maybe he could agree to only to onyl go if they send back Greg Tansey (who only just signed on loan I think) back to Aberdeen. Not cause Hibs ant him, just for the craic.

Col2
31-01-2018, 08:48 AM
I may be two faced (given how SA left last time) but I am excited if this happens.

Nicho87
31-01-2018, 08:51 AM
A fully fit motivated Scott Allan would walk in our team

Souter96Mac
31-01-2018, 08:53 AM
A fully fit motivated Scott Allan would walk in our team

Same was said about Stokes. But I agree with you, Allan is the type of player we've been crying out for to create for our strikers.

jacomo
31-01-2018, 08:55 AM
A fully fit motivated Scott Allan would walk in our team


That’s what I’m worried about. If he returns he’s gonna have to put some effort in.

skyehibee
31-01-2018, 08:59 AM
How long until he’s after a move to rangers if this happens

eezyrider
31-01-2018, 09:00 AM
A fully fit motivated Scott Allan would walk in our team

Why would he walk into our team when can't even walk into the Dundee side?

EZ

Nicho87
31-01-2018, 09:02 AM
Why would he walk into our team when can't even walk into the Dundee side?

EZ

As I said a fully fit motivated Allan would. Half arsed wouldn't.

You can't deny him when he was on form he was unplayable for example the 4-0 sevco game.

Brightside
31-01-2018, 09:02 AM
A fully fit motivated Scott Allan would walk in our team

Good luck. A fully fit motivated Scott Allan would be playing at a higher level. I don't think its happening tbh. I also don't think for a second that Lennon could get the best out of him.....he's not exactly a softly softly manager

Ryan69
31-01-2018, 09:04 AM
A fully fit motivated Scott Allan would walk in our team

Then walk out the door as soon as somebody comes calling.

Youve got to remember that every club he has been at...He has caused trouble!

J-C
31-01-2018, 09:07 AM
Good luck. A fully fit motivated Scott Allan would be playing at a higher level. I don't think its happening tbh. I also don't think for a second that Lennon could get the best out of him.....he's not exactly a softly softly manager


Maybe he needs the kick up the erse type manager to get the best out of him, I notice he didn't exactly set the heather on fire in his Rotherham loan spell and Stubbs was manager there, so what happened with his relationship with Stubbs that was obviously decent when he was at Hibs, did he see Rotherham as beneath him, not exactly a club you'd choose to sign for.

Unseen work
31-01-2018, 09:08 AM
Scott Allan has been injured for a fair chunk of the season hence why he has been on the bench lately.

His stats when he has played speak to themselves.

CapitalGreen
31-01-2018, 09:09 AM
Then walk out the door as soon as somebody comes calling.

Youve got to remember that every club he has been at...He has caused trouble!

What trouble did he cause at Forfar, West Brom, Portsmouth, MK Dons, Birmingham, Celtic or Dundee?

spike220
31-01-2018, 09:10 AM
Maybe he needs the kick up the erse type manager to get the best out of him, I notice he didn't exactly set the heather on fire in his Rotherham loan spell and Stubbs was manager there, so what happened with his relationship with Stubbs that was obviously decent when he was at Hibs, did he see Rotherham as beneath him, not exactly a club you'd choose to sign for.

I would not wish Rotherham on anybody!

Benny Brazil
31-01-2018, 09:12 AM
Keep on reading that Scott Allan is a trouble maker but no-one can provide any evidence of that apart from when he asked for a transfer from us.
Suppose if you say it often enough it will become fact.

bigwheel
31-01-2018, 09:14 AM
Keep on reading that Scott Allan is a trouble maker but no-one can provide any evidence of that apart from when he asked for a transfer from us.
Suppose if you say it often enough it will become fact.


yes. , fair point - not sure he is a trouble maker - other than he has left every club that he got regular games at quickly - so not a loyal character. Also his attitude is a bit up and down isn't it..a bit moody - but I guess that often comes with those with natural talent..

GloryGlory
31-01-2018, 09:15 AM
yes. , fair point - not sure he is a trouble maker - other than he has left every club that he got regular games at quickly - so not a loyal character. Also his attitude is a bit up and down isn't it..a bit moody - but I guess that often comes with those with natural talent..

He's also diabetic, so maybe mood swings are to be expected.

Ozyhibby
31-01-2018, 09:16 AM
Why would he walk into our team when can't even walk into the Dundee side?

EZ

Quick check on the Dundee forums and they are puzzled as to why he doesn’t start either as they are all in agreement he is their best player and all want him signed long term.
Just because Neil McCann doesn’t know how to use him properly doesn’t mean he’s a bad player.
We need creativity in the final third. Scott Allan is as good as we’ll get in our price range. If we can make this happen I’ll be delighted. He’s just about to come into his peak years as a player. And he plays a killer pass as good as any player in the league.


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we are hibs
31-01-2018, 09:19 AM
I cannot believe there's people who wanted stokes out yet would take Scott Allan back when he's done more harm to the club than stokes ever did.

CapitalGreen
31-01-2018, 09:20 AM
I cannot believe there's people who wanted stokes out yet would take Scott Allan back when he's done more harm to the club than stokes ever did.

Has he?

bingo70
31-01-2018, 09:20 AM
I cannot believe there's people who wanted stokes out yet would take Scott Allan back when he's done more harm to the club than stokes ever did.

What did he do that was so bad apart from hand in a transfer request?

J-C
31-01-2018, 09:21 AM
He's also diabetic, so maybe mood swings are to be expected.


I think when he was at Hibs, he wasn't one of the lads but he wasn't not liked, he's a quiet lad seemingly and keeps himself to himself.

I think it's the way he engineered a couple of his moves made him not like, the Dundee U and the Hibs one spring to mind, badly advised by his agent, these young lads tend to put a lot of trust into their agents unfortunately.

JimboHibs
31-01-2018, 09:23 AM
Then walk out the door as soon as somebody comes calling.

Youve got to remember that every club he has been at...He has caused trouble!

Has he ? You got a list.

supermcginn
31-01-2018, 09:24 AM
Then walk out the door as soon as somebody comes calling.

Youve got to remember that every club he has been at...He has caused trouble!

Fake news

SHODAN
31-01-2018, 09:24 AM
I cannot believe there's people who wanted stokes out yet would take Scott Allan back when he's done more harm to the club than stokes ever did.

Scott Allan contributed to our Scottish Cup win almost as much as Stokes did - his wee strop got us Henderson & McGeouch on a permanent deal, plus money/incentive to sign McGinn!

Captain Trips
31-01-2018, 09:25 AM
We are in sad process of cutting ties with Stokes the last thing to do is sign up somebody else whom caused a bit of disruption while here last and has since gone on to do nothing more than bounce around a few clubs.

Hopefully Lennon gets in a fresh face going forward.

Iceman1875
31-01-2018, 09:25 AM
As much as I didn’t like how he left, I’d take him back. Can’t see it happening way to many variables.


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Unseen work
31-01-2018, 09:26 AM
Dundee sell Bain and Hendry to Celtic

Hibs get Scott Allan

Dundee get Liam Fontaine

Everyone is happy

Souter96Mac
31-01-2018, 09:27 AM
Dundee sell Bain and Hendry to Celtic

Hibs get Scott Allan

Dundee get Liam Fontaine

Everyone is happy

We'd be left a bit short for a backup goalie if Rocky gets injured

we are hibs
31-01-2018, 09:27 AM
What did he do that was so bad apart from hand in a transfer request?


He said he was happy at hibs and not looking to leave on hibstv which was clearly a lie as a few days later handed in a transfer request to try and force through a move to our rivals for that season just days before the start of the season which led to us having a poor start to the season.

sean04
31-01-2018, 09:28 AM
I personally would love Scott Allan back. Can thread the pass in the final 3rd we've been crying out for. Think barker and Boyle would benefit from clever balls from him. He made a mistake moving from hibs and hopefully he's learned a tough lesson having dropped down to Dundee level

easty
31-01-2018, 09:28 AM
We'd be left a bit short for a backup goalie if Rocky gets injured

We'd definitely bring in another goalie.

J-C
31-01-2018, 09:29 AM
He said he was happy at hibs and not looking to leave on hibstv which was clearly a lie as a few days later handed in a transfer request to try and force through a move to our rivals for that season just days before the start of the season which led to us having a poor start to the season.


Another case of a young player listening too much to his agent, probably regrets it all now.

Souter96Mac
31-01-2018, 09:31 AM
We'd definitely bring in another goalie.

If this is the case, then I'd be happy. Allan is the creative player we are missing. I was hopeful at one point we might get Mallan in on loan but he's been a starter for Barnsley for the last 4/5 games.

we are hibs
31-01-2018, 09:32 AM
Another case of a young player listening too much to his agent, probably regrets it all now.


Cant regret it that much because he was in the papers laughing about how hearts, hibs, Rangers, Celtic and Dundee United fans don't like him because of how disloyal he is

Delboy4
31-01-2018, 09:32 AM
If this happens I can see Dylan going. Are we trying to get cover for him? How ironic, that would free up the No.10 jersey!!

Would rather have DM than SA anyday...

rotherhamrob
31-01-2018, 09:33 AM
I would not wish Rotherham on anybody!

😂😂 neither would I.

J-C
31-01-2018, 09:35 AM
If this happens I can see Dylan going. Are we trying to get cover for him? How ironic, that would free up the No.10 jersey!!

Would rather have DM than SA anyday...


Dylan sits far deeper than Allan, they'd compliment each other, the fact that Dylan wears the number 10 means nowt as he doesn't play in that position.

easty
31-01-2018, 09:37 AM
If this happens I can see Dylan going. Are we trying to get cover for him? How ironic, that would free up the No.10 jersey!!

Would rather have DM than SA anyday...

Dylan and Scott Allen could easily play in the same team. 2 players good with the ball at their feet.

SHODAN
31-01-2018, 09:37 AM
If this happens I can see Dylan going. Are we trying to get cover for him? How ironic, that would free up the No.10 jersey!!

Would rather have DM than SA anyday...

Dylan's a defensive midfielder. Allan's the link between midfield and the strikers. Totally different players.

Jones28
31-01-2018, 09:42 AM
Hope not. Despite his lack of goals, I love watching him play, when he gets the ball at feet and is facing the defenders he's a real menace. If he can get goals to his game he'll be a star

The boys real talent, if he added 10 goals to his game he'd be a coup for Hibs

CapitalGreen
31-01-2018, 09:44 AM
He said he was happy at hibs and not looking to leave on hibstv which was clearly a lie as a few days later handed in a transfer request to try and force through a move to our rivals for that season just days before the start of the season which led to us having a poor start to the season.

Oh the humanity

Jones28
31-01-2018, 09:46 AM
Dylan's a defensive midfielder. Allan's the link between midfield and the strikers. Totally different players.

Could this mean McGinn is away?

bigwheel
31-01-2018, 09:48 AM
He said he was happy at hibs and not looking to leave on hibstv which was clearly a lie as a few days later handed in a transfer request to try and force through a move to our rivals for that season just days before the start of the season which led to us having a poor start to the season.


lol...can you imagine if he had gone on HibsTV and said..."nah, I fancy away to be honest - would love to play for Rangers.."

CapitalGreen
31-01-2018, 09:49 AM
Could this mean McGinn is away?

No

we are hibs
31-01-2018, 09:50 AM
lol...can you imagine if he had gone on HibsTV and said..."nah, I fancy away to be honest - would love to play for Rangers.."


Lol he didn't need to lie to the fans lol

bigwheel
31-01-2018, 09:51 AM
Lol he didn't need to lie to the fans lol


:). if he is asked the question..he had to give the "stock" reply "I am happy here"....We can't hold it against him

we are hibs
31-01-2018, 09:53 AM
:). if he is asked the question..he had to give the "stock" reply "I am happy here"....We can't hold it against him


He didn't need to do the interview and he didn't need to force a move days before the start of the season. There was speculation all summer but he waited until then to do it.

ancient hibee
31-01-2018, 09:56 AM
Lol he didn't need to lie to the fans lol
Anyone who doesn’t want to be lied to shouldn’t follow football.

bigwheel
31-01-2018, 09:58 AM
He didn't need to do the interview and he didn't need to force a move days before the start of the season. There was speculation all summer but he waited until then to do it.


I have a different view for that...he got a three year deal and probably 4 x his money...Footballers need to look after themselves only. I have no issue with what he did. And to this day, I am delighted Hibs forced him out to Celtic rather than let him go to Rangers.

brog
31-01-2018, 10:01 AM
We are in sad process of cutting ties with Stokes the last thing to do is sign up somebody else whom caused a bit of disruption while here last and has since gone on to do nothing more than bounce around a few clubs.

Hopefully Lennon gets in a fresh face going forward.

Scott Allan is quite fresh faced! On a more serious note it's maybe because I'm older but I really can't get over excited about players & their supposed disloyalty to us, or any other club. Since Bosman there's really no such thing as club loyalty & I'm not sure there should be, even though I love Hibs supporters playing for Hibs & I love players like Fonts & Marvin coming in & getting our club. If you're an accountant, or an engineer & a rival company offers to double your wage & give you a lump of cash to join up then I'm pretty sure nearly every person here would be off before you could say " Stokesy's on Fire ". The only thing that matters is that the player gives 100% while at Hibs & improves our team. If you doubt either of these things regarding Scott Allan, then look at this video & the unbridled joy on his face as he lays on goals against his supposed heroes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/30618288

SHODAN
31-01-2018, 10:01 AM
Could this mean McGinn is away?

Possibly - if so, we've saved money on a replacement and can maybe shell out a bit more for a top quality striker.

MB62
31-01-2018, 10:02 AM
I have a different view for that...he got a three year deal and probably 4 x his money...Footballers need to look after themselves only. I have no issue with what he did. And to this day, I am delighted Hibs forced him out to Celtic rather than let him go to Rangers.


:agree: :top marks

CapitalGreen
31-01-2018, 10:03 AM
Possibly - if so, we've saved money on a replacement and can maybe shell out a bit more for a top quality striker.

Yup, we should keep buying more strikers and neglect our need for players who can create chances for them.

easty
31-01-2018, 10:03 AM
I have a different view for that...he got a three year deal and probably 4 x his money...Footballers need to look after themselves only. I have no issue with what he did. And to this day, I am delighted Hibs forced him out to Celtic rather than let him go to Rangers.

:agree:

K-Zazu
31-01-2018, 10:06 AM
Would imagine that’s us done after the Kamberi signing