Horse Racing (General)

[Hibs1972]

Well let’s hope so as 48 hours away and still no official confirmation, back to national hunt, on a previous post I mentioned that I had done a load of free bets on Envoi Allen to win at this years festival which it did and I’ve started betting him again for next year, in my opinion he only has 2 possible entries which are the Arkle(14-1)and the RSA(7-1), he’s a shorter price for the Marsh(7-2)as that’s the distance he won over this year but I think the owners will go for 1 of the more famous races for sure, good luck if anyone fancies a very long term investment.

[HibernianJK]

Well let’s hope so as 48 hours away and still no official confirmation, back to national hunt, on a previous post I mentioned that I had done a load of free bets on Envoi Allen to win at this years festival which it did and I’ve started betting him again for next year, in my opinion he only has 2 possible entries which are the Arkle(14-1)and the RSA(7-1), he’s a shorter price for the Marsh(7-2)as that’s the distance he won over this year but I think the owners will go for 1 of the more famous races for sure, good luck if anyone fancies a very long term investment.

Chasing seems like it will be the game but I actually think it would be superb over 3m over hurdles

[HibernianJK]

Think I will be all over the favourites in the Guineas next weekend. Can’t wait to see Pinatubo again.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Looking forward to seeing Ghaiyyath running tomorrow and Pinatubo on Saturday (12lbs clear on the ratings), won't be getting involved financially for a month or two (although might have a small investment on the 1k Guineas fav), although laying the favourites on Betfair this week would've been just as successful as laying the favourites when the French racing came back.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Thoroughly professional performance by Ghaiyyath.

[Pretty Boy]

I can't see past Pinatubo today but it wouldn't shock me at all to see one of the bigger priced O'brien runners go close. He always has one that sneaks under the radar as a 2 year old and explodes at 3.

[Pretty Boy]

Great ride by Murphy to win that, help on to the horse well when he was trying to drift right. Pinatubo looked a bit flat, think he got involved in a race too soon. Hard to make any assessment on whether he has trained on well or not, he was a close 3rd behind a couple of good horses.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Disappointing run by the fav considering the form of Godolphin horses over the last couple of days.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Great ride by Murphy to win that, help on to the horse well when he was trying to drift right. Pinatubo looked a bit flat, think he got involved in a race too soon. Hard to make any assessment on whether he has trained on well or not, he was a close 3rd behind a couple of good horses.

It's going to be a strange old season, try to keep the powder dry! 👍

[ekhibee]

Great ride by Murphy to win that, help on to the horse well when he was trying to drift right. Pinatubo looked a bit flat, think he got involved in a race too soon. Hard to make any assessment on whether he has trained on well or not, he was a close 3rd behind a couple of good horses.

Didn't look as if he stayed, Wichita certainly seemed to outstay him, and the winner came from behind both of them. Not writing off Pinatubo just yet but that was probably his best chance of winning one of the British classics, I'd be amazed if they run him in the Derby. Possibly the Eclipse, but there must be a doubt now about whether he'll stay a mile and a quarter. I don't know if Royal Ascot's taking place this year but that might be the kind of track that suits Pinatubo. Just my opinion though.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Didn't look as if he stayed, Wichita certainly seemed to outstay him, and the winner came from behind both of them. Not writing off Pinatubo just yet but that was probably his best chance of winning one of the British classics, I'd be amazed if they run him in the Derby. Possibly the Eclipse, but there must be a doubt now about whether he'll stay a mile and a quarter. I don't know if Royal Ascot's taking place this year but that might be the kind of track that suits Pinatubo. Just my opinion though.

Agree about The Classics, retirement may be looming.

[HibernianJK]

How long has it been since a top class 2yo went on to great things. Air Force Blue and Too Darn Hot were both superb and were so flat as 3yo. Still time for Pinatubo but that’ll be the last time I take one of his ilk for the Guineas again.

[Pretty Boy]

How long has it been since a top class 2yo went on to great things. Air Force Blue and Too Darn Hot were both superb and were so flat as 3yo. Still time for Pinatubo but that’ll be the last time I take one of his ilk for the Guineas again.

Gleneagles is the only semi credible candidate I can think of off the top of my head in the last few years. Even then he tailed off in his 3 year old season. Frankel won the Royal Lodge and the Dewhurst at 2 and trained on well but he's unlikely to be remembered for his 2 year old campaign.

[ekhibee]

Good winner of the 1000 Guineas, Love is 7/4 for the Oaks. I thought the favourite, Quadrilateral, was too free but definitely looks like she would stay the mile and a half, so still worth keeping an eye on.

[stantonhibby]

Even though there's no crowd, quite enjoying watching some live sport again.

[Pretty Boy]

O'Brien had one runner in the race, that should have been a tip in itself. No, I didn't back her.

Quadrilateral looks an Oaks horse, stayed on nicely. The one that caught my eye was Romsey in 5th. 200/1 but stayed nicely, been campaigned at 6f to a mile. I think she could be competitive over a bit further

[Hibernia&Alba]

Guys, I know it's been said before, but NEVER, NEVER, cash out. If you lose, please take the hit and move on. Lesson well and truly learned today. £5 five race acca, returning £560. I cashed out for just £50 after three races. Fourth horse won, then Siskin went and won the Irish 2000 Guineas. Over £500 down the cludgie because I bottled it. Feels like I've been mugged on the street.

[Pretty Boy]

Siskin was a very good winner there. The Coolmore tactic was quite clearly to box him in and obstruct him the whole way. Keane stayed calm and the turn of foot inside the final furlong when the gap appeared was impressive.

Vatican City was an eye catcher in 2nd, I'll be taking another look at him for the derby.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Siskin was a very good winner there. The Coolmore tactic was quite clearly to box him in and obstruct him the whole way. Keane stayed calm and the turn of foot inside the final furlong when the gap appeared was impressive.

Vatican City was an eye catcher in 2nd, I'll be taking another look at him for the derby.

Crossfirehurricane was very good in the previous race, a Group 3. Had £20 on him as single, as well as part of the acca, as 5/1 looked good. He was 7/1 by post. Good patient ride, holding him up at the back before letting him go in the last couple of furlongs. Comfortable in the end, he remains unbeaten and could be destined for better. Mythical, as favourite, ran a stinker.

[ekhibee]

Siskin's a great wee horse, was really chuffed to see him win. I've never thought he's got the credit he deserves even though he was fav for the race, so now more people will take him seriously.

[ekhibee]

Start of Royal Ascot today. Good race the first one, won by Circus Maximus.

[stantonhibby]

Two days in a row there's been 1 person waiting on the 7th race to scoop the ITV7 pot. Rollover to £200k for tomorrow. Had the first 4 winners on day 1 but hopeless since then.

[ekhibee]

Two days in a row there's been 1 person waiting on the 7th race to scoop the ITV7 pot. Rollover to £200k for tomorrow. Had the first 4 winners on day 1 but hopeless since then.

Aye, I felt for them in the last today, their selection ran on well to finish 2nd. I'm sure whoever it was quite rightly didn't give a **** about Hayley Turner winning it for a 2nd time, unlike the ITV team lol

[Hibernia&Alba]

Aye, I felt for them in the last today, their selection ran on well to finish 2nd. I'm sure whoever it was quite rightly didn't give a **** about Hayley Turner winning it for a 2nd time, unlike the ITV team lol

You would be completely devastated to lose £150,000 with a second place in the final race. The poor sod, whoever they are, will never get over it. Imagine trying to get any sleep last night after that.

[stantonhibby]

You would be completely devastated to lose £150,000 with a second place in the final race. The poor sod, whoever they are, will never get over it. Imagine trying to get any sleep last night after that.

Not won today either.....£250k tomorrow!

[Pretty Boy]

Liam Treadwell, of Mon Mome 100/1 fame, found dead this morning. It reads like he took his own life, 34 years old.

What a tragedy.

[Hiber-nation]

Liam Treadwell, of Mon Mome 100/1 fame, found dead this morning. It reads like he took his own life, 34 years old.

What a tragedy.

Terrible news. Don't think he was ever the same after that bad fall he took. But who knows.

[ekhibee]

Obviously very tragic news regarding Liam Treadwell. The mental strain placed on jockeys is something that isn't discussed that regularly, probably partly due to the belief that they all make far more than we do. The truth is very different from that, and the pressure placed on them is phenomenal. Treadwell was a good jockey who had some terrible injuries in the course of his short career, but he always managed to come back somehow. R.I.P.

[ekhibee]

I feel sorry for Tom Marquand who rode the Derby fav English King to 2 victories including a really impressive win in the Lingfield Derby Trial. He's been jocked off and surprise surprise Dettori's been given it. Owner's prerogative I suppose but it still leaves a bit of a sour taste.

[HibernianJK]

I feel sorry for Tom Marquand who rode the Derby fav English King to 2 victories including a really impressive win in the Lingfield Derby Trial. He's been jocked off and surprise surprise Dettori's been given it. Owner's prerogative I suppose but it still leaves a bit of a sour taste.

Doesn’t sit too well with me especially with how well Marquand has been this year.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Guys, I know it's been said before, but NEVER, NEVER, cash out. If you lose, please take the hit and move on. Lesson well and truly learned today. £5 five race acca, returning £560. I cashed out for just £50 after three races. Fourth horse won, then Siskin went and won the Irish 2000 Guineas. Over £500 down the cludgie because I bottled it. Feels like I've been mugged on the street.


NEVER NEVER is too sweeping a statement. Cash out is all about timing, change to going, new information learned after the bet is on...a whole list of possibles. It's a valuable tool which I'll admit the bookies love or they wouldn't offer it but used sensibly it's good for the punter too.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Good winner of the 1000 Guineas, Love is 7/4 for the Oaks. I thought the favourite, Quadrilateral, was too free but definitely looks like she would stay the mile and a half, so still worth keeping an eye on.

I'm against Love today on Frankly Darling 66/1 AP

[Pretty Boy]

Thoughts on the Derby? It looks a pretty poor running, Jamie Spencer described it as no better than a Group 2 or 3 race.

I'll have a couple of pound on Vatican City who looked quite eye catching in 2nd in the Irish Guineas. It didn't look like the often misleading passing a few tired horses who were going backwards scenario either. He's ran on a couple of times, my gut is he is going to be a 1m2f horse but I can easily see him running into a place today.

[Bangkok Hibby]

I agree it doesn't look anything special this year. I'm on Mogul at 12's. Hopeful he will strip a bit fitter than Ascot, but if I wasn't already on I wouldn't have a bet on the Derby today.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Small bet on English King as he looks the most likely to stay. The 2nd in the Lingfield Derby Trial finished 2nd to The Irish Derby winner at Ascot so, the form looks solid enough. I'm trying hard not to get involved with the gee gees but, it's The Derby so, would be rude not to. ☺

[Pretty Boy]

Great ride by Emmet McNamara.

Carbon copy of the race before won by William Buick. Get a lead, break the field apart and trust the horse to stay. Huge miscalculation by the other jockeys, particularly those from about 2nd to 6th.

[ekhibee]

Love was extremely impressive in the Oaks. Just as impressive as she was in the 1000 Guineas. Very good horse. 11/10 was a really good price if you had a bet.

[stantonhibby]

Great ride by Emmet McNamara.

Carbon copy of the race before won by William Buick. Get a lead, break the field apart and trust the horse to stay. Huge miscalculation by the other jockeys, particularly those from about 2nd to 6th.

Absolutely......you could kind of tell he wasn't coming back to them

[stantonhibby]

Love was extremely impressive in the Oaks. Just as impressive as she was in the 1000 Guineas. Very good horse. 11/10 was a really good price if you had a bet.

Yeah very impressive.....i backed Frankly Darling but it was well beat

[Hibernia&Alba]

Love was extremely impressive in the Oaks. Just as impressive as she was in the 1000 Guineas. Very good horse. 11/10 was a really good price if you had a bet.

I was on Love, and she was superb. Glad I didn't get involved in The Derby; it was wide open and turned out very like last year's Irish Derby, in that a big priced horse was given a big lead and just kept going. Serpentine was a unique winner, doing it in such a facile way, devoid of any rival. Very strange race.

Whilst I'm unsure if Enable is a gimme tomorrow, I'm definitely going to back her.

[Hibernia&Alba]

What's this racing they have in France, where the jockey is in a buggy/pram wheels? It's bonkers :greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

I was on Love, and she was superb. Glad I didn't get involved in The Derby; it was wide open and turned out very like last year's Irish Derby, in that a big priced horse was given a big lead and just kept going. Serpentine was a unique winner, doing it in such a facile way, devoid of any rival. Very strange race.

Whilst I'm unsure if Enable is a gimme tomorrow, I'm definitely going to back her.

Now tomorrow's Eclipse is a proper Group 1 line up. Really strong field.

[Pretty Boy]

What's this racing they have in France, where the jockey is in a buggy/pram wheels? It's bonkers :greengrin

Harness racing?

They used to have meetings at Musselburgh but not sure if they still do. I don't really understand it, think they have to maintain a certain stride among other things.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Harness racing?

They used to have meetings at Musselburgh but not sure if they still do. I don't really understand it, think they have to maintain a certain stride among other things.

Aye, really weird. Jockeys being pulled along on a bogey :greengrin

[ekhibee]

What's this racing they have in France, where the jockey is in a buggy/pram wheels? It's bonkers :greengrin

If it's like the races they have at a certain time of the year in Musselburgh, it's trotting. There's very strict rules in the racing, it seems to be quite popular in the Netherlands and other countries. When you look at the form for these trotting races, quite often it'll read 111DD1DD1, because it's really easy to be disqualified for breaking out of a trot. In Musselburgh it used to be travelling people that were well into it, they used to set aside a week or two for them each year, not sure if they still do though.

[ekhibee]

The Eclipse tomorrow, Enable to win comfortably. Japan was a disappointing beaten favourite last time but if he regains some kind of form would at least chase Enable up, the others look like milers or just not good enough but it's not a race I would really want to bet on unless I had a large amount of dosh and as I have just bought a new car I'm skint.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I always bet on sentiment, hence I went with Enable, though I was by no means certain she would beat a fully match fit Ghaiyyath in her first race of the year. I even backed Stradivarius to beat him over a mile and a half a few weeks back, purely on sentiment. :greengrin

Oh, and I just want to give a special thanks today to Military Style at Cork, who destroyed my three race acca when going off at 4/9F. Great job, you mutt :aok:

[ekhibee]

I always bet on sentiment, hence I went with Enable, though I was by no means certain she would beat a fully match fit Ghaiyyath in her first race of the year. I even backed Stradivarius to beat him over a mile and a half a few weeks back, purely on sentiment. :greengrin

Oh, and I just want to give a special thanks today to Military Style at Cork, who destroyed my three race acca when going off at 4/9F. Great job, you mutt :aok:

I actually watched that race, and I feel your pain, the horse seemed to drop itself out then stay on again. I can't be bothered with horses that think too much, you could end up with a whole field full of Mad Mooses lol. In the 2.05 at Haydock after the first 5 furlongs or so the leader decided to turn and run in the opposite direction back to the stables.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I actually watched that race, and I feel your pain, the horse seemed to drop itself out then stay on again. I can't be bothered with horses that think too much, you could end up with a whole field full of Mad Mooses lol. In the 2.05 at Haydock after the first 5 furlongs or so the leader decided to turn and run in the opposite direction back to the stables.


Aye I saw that. The field took the left and hand bend and he just carried straight on, dumping his jockey over the rails :greengrin

[Hibs1972]

Mohaather in the 3-15 Ascot tomorrow is a sure thing, 2-1.https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://www.hibs.net/7b9c7b87-4d89-4a8a-8b44-bf381708c927

[Hiber-nation]

Mohaather in the 3-15 Ascot tomorrow is a sure thing, 2-1.https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://www.hibs.net/7b9c7b87-4d89-4a8a-8b44-bf381708c927

Cheers. I didn't think there was such a thing as a tip any more!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Mohaather in the 3-15 Ascot tomorrow is a sure thing, 2-1.https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://www.hibs.net/7b9c7b87-4d89-4a8a-8b44-bf381708c927

I've backed it too.

[stantonhibby]

Mohaather in the 3-15 Ascot tomorrow is a sure thing, 2-1.https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://www.hibs.net/7b9c7b87-4d89-4a8a-8b44-bf381708c927

Well done!

[Hibs1972]

Well done!
Looked very unlucky at Royal Ascot, looked class today. :aok::aok:

[Hibernia&Alba]

Godhead at Newmarket 16.10 was massively overpriced at 28/1. 25 quid each way and gets placed :thumbsup:

[Hiber-nation]

Mohaather in the 3-15 Ascot tomorrow is a sure thing, 2-1.https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://www.hibs.net/7b9c7b87-4d89-4a8a-8b44-bf381708c927

Thanks for that 👍

[Hibernia&Alba]

Guys, I know it's been said before, but NEVER, NEVER, cash out. If you lose, please take the hit and move on. Lesson well and truly learned today. £5 five race acca, returning £560. I cashed out for just £50 after three races. Fourth horse won, then Siskin went and won the Irish 2000 Guineas. Over £500 down the cludgie because I bottled it. Feels like I've been mugged on the street.


NEVER NEVER is too sweeping a statement. Cash out is all about timing, change to going, new information learned after the bet is on...a whole list of possibles. It's a valuable tool which I'll admit the bookies love or they wouldn't offer it but used sensibly it's good for the punter too.

You are absolutely right, Bangkok. I've just had the racing Gods on my side, after a mixed day - thank-you Godhead:

2 pounds five leg win acca:

Salisbury 19:45 - Award Scheme 9/2 WON
Newcastle 20:00 - Cosmelli 11/4 WON
Salisbury 20:15 By Jove 7/4 WON
Salisbury 20:45 C'est No Mour 7/1 WON
Newcastle 21:00 Fiji 9/2 PLACED

Potential win 4991:25

Cashed out after race four for 795 when Fiji went JF.


Yaaaas, the Peroni is open :flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag:

[Hibs1972]

Thanks for that 👍
Glad a few people managed to join in, next race should be the Sussex stakes at Goodwood, I’ve already bet him at 4-1, the second fav at moment is Pinatubo but is a doubtful runner,Siskin is 5-4 fav and rightly so but if he was to miss the race then anything about 4-1 is a cracking bet, even if fav turns up he’ll need to be on top form.:cb

[ekhibee]

Just watched what is usually one of the most prestigous races in the flat racing calendar, The King George. Enable won it easily, but it was a 3 horse race and 1 was a pacemaker. And for all the crowing Dettori was doing after it, we learnt absolutely nothing from it. Just my opinion though.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Just watched what is usually one of the most prestigous races in the flat racing calendar, The King George. Enable won it easily, but it was a 3 horse race and 1 was a pacemaker. And for all the crowing Dettori was doing after it, we learnt absolutely nothing from it. Just my opinion though.

I agree. Though numerous tipsters backed Japan, I thought Enable was free cash in a three horse race and went in large. She did look magnificent and fully race fit. She is now six and Gosden said it took longer than normal to get her fully in gear but that she has now reached her previous level. It really showed as she trotted up. Doubtless this is her final racing season, but she seemed as good as ever in that race.

[Pretty Boy]

Some performance again by Stradivarius. Giving 15lbs to the Irish Derby winner and hitting all kinds of traffic and still won going away. The last half furlong was absolutely brilliant from him.

[bongo'd]

The Sussex Stakes looks some race. I'd usually be pretty bullish about Siskin's chances but it's up against some quality horses. Should be an enjoyable watch nonetheless

[grunt]

Glad a few people managed to join in, next race should be the Sussex stakes at Goodwood, I’ve already bet him at 4-1, the second fav at moment is Pinatubo but is a doubtful runner,Siskin is 5-4 fav and rightly so but if he was to miss the race then anything about 4-1 is a cracking bet, even if fav turns up he’ll need to be on top form.:cbThanks for this. :greengrin

[Hibs1972]

Thanks for this. :greengrin
Just checked in to see if anyone joined in today, horse is a serious weapon, price will be gone now though. Hoping he goes to America for breeders cup.

[stantonhibby]

Just checked in to see if anyone joined in today, horse is a serious weapon, price will be gone now though. Hoping he goes to America for breeders cup.

I backed Kameko.....all ifs and buts with that one!

[Hibs1972]

I backed Kameko.....all ifs and buts with that one!
Yeah looks like he was trying to get out last 2 furlongs, gave up last 50 yards, definitely more races to be won with him.

[Hiber-nation]

Just checked in to see if anyone joined in today, horse is a serious weapon, price will be gone now though. Hoping he goes to America for breeders cup.

Aye cheers, I hadn't forgotten your last tip so I stuck by him :aok:

Thought he was done though but once Crowley eventually got him out wide there was no doubt :greengrin

[ekhibee]

I backed Kameko.....all ifs and buts with that one!

He ran a strange race IMO mate, looked to be trapped on the rail, then started eying up Siskin a bit and looked as if he'd chucked it at the end. He should've been a lot closer IMO. Definitely 1 to follow, particularly next season. He actually reminds me of the winner, he was a talented but erratic 3yr old but now looks top class.

[Hibs1972]

Aye cheers, I hadn't forgotten your last tip so I stuck by him :aok:

Thought he was done though but once Crowley eventually got him out wide there was no doubt :greengrin
Yeah I thought it was Ascot all over again! Was listening to trainer after race and again he mentioned an Oasis Dream 2 year old (Tasfeeq)see if it’s declared today for Saturday, only Sheikh Hamadan horse left in race so probable runner.https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://www.hibs.net/96800437-4a15-4143-9a5a-df34fd204454

[stantonhibby]

Yeah I thought it was Ascot all over again! Was listening to trainer after race and again he mentioned an Oasis Dream 2 year old (Tasfeeq)see if it’s declared today for Saturday, only Sheikh Hamadan horse left in race so probable runner.https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://www.hibs.net/96800437-4a15-4143-9a5a-df34fd204454

Tasfeeq is entered into the 4.40 at Goodwood on Sat, also has an entry at Sandown on Sun.

[Hibs1972]

Tasfeeq is entered into the 4.40 at Goodwood on Sat, also has an entry at Sandown on Sun.
Think this might be a good one, not like the trainer to say too much about 2 year olds, just have to wait and see price, not one for betting 2 year olds so maybe just watch if price is a bit short.:wink::cb

[Hibernia&Alba]

If any of you have a Paddy Account you can claim a £5 free bet on the 14:25 at Goodwood tomorrow (01/08).

[Hibs1972]

Think this might be a good one, not like the trainer to say too much about 2 year olds, just have to wait and see price, not one for betting 2 year olds so maybe just watch if price is a bit short.:wink::cb
Tasfeeq a 9-2 chance today, maybe worth a wee fiver, as I said the trainer is not 1 to hype up his 2 year olds so the fact he’s mentioned it a couple of times must be a positive, good luck!

[Hibernia&Alba]

I missed out on a very nice pay out today in the 15:35 at Goodwood. Paddy Power were paying 6 places in a big field sprint. I decided against bothering in the end, as it's always carnage in those type of races, but had picked Summerghand at 22/1 and Brian The Snail at 66/1, both each way. Wouldn't you just know that Summgerghand won and Brian came third. :brickwall

[Hibs1972]

Unique race at Newmarket, greys only in the 3.15, Ugo Gregory only carrying 8-2 after an unlucky run at York last time, about 8-1, good luck!!

[Hiber-nation]

Unique race at Newmarket, greys only in the 3.15, Ugo Gregory only carrying 8-2 after an unlucky run at York last time, about 8-1, good luck!!

Cheers, worth a couple of quid!

[Hibernia&Alba]

There was a 100/1 winner at Windsor today. Nothing compared to Leopardstown a few days ago. Big Jerry sounds like he had a chunk on the favourite, pipped on the line :greengrin


https://youtu.be/qU7LT4LWfzE

[HibernianJK]

Ghaiyyath is going to be mighty hard to beat in the Arc, let’s hope Love and Enable both turn up fully tuned up should be a blinding race.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Ghaiyyath is going to be mighty hard to beat in the Arc, let’s hope Love and Enable both turn up fully tuned up should be a blinding race.

And Stradivarius; what a line up. The trip will be too short for him, sadly, but great to see him there.

[ekhibee]

And Stradivarius; what a line up. The trip will be too short for him, sadly, but great to see him there.

Yeh, agree, brilliant horse over longer distances but can't see him figuring over a mile and a half. Just personally for me it would be Love at this stage, and I'd take the 3/1 if I could get it. For me she's got the best form over the distance this season, and on varying ground. Ghaiyath's looked almost unbeatable over a mile and a quarter, and he does stay a mile and a half, but the Eclipse this year wasn't open to 3 year olds for some reason so he was only racing against older horses. I would fancy Enable to get revenge over a mile and a half. looks like it's going to be an incredible race. Would love to see Piledriver run well, it would be a great story, but this race looks really hot.

[Hiber-nation]

Fantastic to see Hollie Doyle ride 5 winners at Windsor today 👍

[ekhibee]

Fantastic to see Hollie Doyle ride 5 winners at Windsor today 👍

Yeh, great wee jockey. That last one was on a horse I've backed before, it is a 'bit of a character' if you know what I mean, she did really well to get it home in front.

[Hibs1972]

Fantastic to see Hollie Doyle ride 5 winners at Windsor today 👍
Had a look at her rides on Friday night so decided to do a lucky 31(not a bet I ever do)done her 1st 5 so got 4 winners and £592 back!! Nearly done her again today but just left it, had 3 winners and 1 just beat by a nose, cracking jockey.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Had a look at her rides on Friday night so decided to do a lucky 31(not a bet I ever do)done her 1st 5 so got 4 winners and £592 back!! Nearly done her again today but just left it, had 3 winners and 1 just beat by a nose, cracking jockey.

Well done :aok:

[ekhibee]

Well I couldn't see Ghaiyyath getting beaten today but he was, fair and square too. Good race too. Congrats anybody who had the 9/2 on Magical.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Well I couldn't see Ghaiyyath getting beaten today but he was, fair and square too. Good race too. Congrats anybody who had the 9/2 on Magical.

Wouldn't you know I went with Ghaiyyath too. Magical is a great horse; never hides and always battles. I should have covered myself with a wee bet on her. Hindsight is wonderful :rolleyes:

[Hibernia&Alba]

15:45 at Thirsk today, Lady G currently hovering between 1/33 and 1/50. I've never seen a price like that :confused:

[Hibernia&Alba]

15:45 at Thirsk today, Lady G currently hovering between 1/33 and 1/50. I've never seen a price like that :confused:

She went off at 1/28 and won easily :greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

Sad news that Pat Smullen has passed away.

He was a fantastic jockey and by all accounts a very decent man as well.

[Hiber-nation]

Sad news that Pat Smullen has passed away.

He was a fantastic jockey and by all accounts a very decent man as well.

Very sad news. Watching an emotional tribute to him on Sky Sports Racing just now.

[stantonhibby]

Very sad news. Watching an emotional tribute to him on Sky Sports Racing just now.

Nice tribute to him there on ITV Racing

[Hibernia&Alba]

I hit the post last night. Eight horse £1.50 acca on American racing for a bit of fun. Return £1360

First six won; offered £95 to cash out. Let it run
Horse seven only third
Horse eight won.


Seven wins and third and not a bean to show for it. :rolleyes:

[Hibs1972]

I listen to the “final furlong” podcast on Spotify and tuned in last Friday to specifically hear Rory Delargys tip for the Cambridgeshire, Majestic Dawn at 40-1,was his tip. Anyway when I went to put bet on it was 22-1, I just decided to give it a miss. I’m sure I don’t have to tell you what happened next!!!:grr::grr::grr::grr:

[ekhibee]

Love is out of the Arc, looks easy peasy for Enable. Can't see any of that lot troubling her. It's a shame, a month ago it was shaping up to be one of the best Arcs ever, now it's exactly the opposite. Anybody who took the early bird price on her is laughing all the way to the bank.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Love is out of the Arc, looks easy peasy for Enable. Can't see any of that lot troubling her. It's a shame, a month ago it was shaping up to be one of the best Arcs ever, now it's exactly the opposite. Anybody who took the early bird price on her is laughing all the way to the bank.

That is a real shame. Which other horses are also out?

[ekhibee]

That is a real shame. Which other horses are also out?

Well Ghaiyath was pulled about a month ago after he was beaten in Ireland. Waldgeist, who won the race last year, has been retired. Before Love was pulled I was looking at Mogul each way at 11's, but he'll probably be shorter now and for me isn't a value bet anymore, but I might be wrong. The very fact that Stradivarius is now 2nd fav probably sums up the chances of the other horses. Stradivarius, is in a league of his own over 2 miles/2 miles 5, but he's been beaten regularly whenever he's raced over a mile and a half. He's probably shorter now because some people will think the grounds a leveller, but Stradivarius doesn't like soft ground either and in any case he'd have to improve by a hell of a lot to win an Arc. He was also beaten in the last Arc trial. Might be worth looking for some value in one of the outsiders each way, you never know.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Well Ghaiyath was pulled about a month ago after he was beaten in Ireland. Waldgeist, who won the race last year, has been retired. Before Love was pulled I was looking at Mogul each way at 11's, but he'll probably be shorter now and for me isn't a value bet anymore, but I might be wrong. The very fact that Stradivarius is now 2nd fav probably sums up the chances of the other horses. Stradivarius, is in a league of his own over 2 miles/2 miles 5, but he's been beaten regularly whenever he's raced over a mile and a half. He's probably shorter now because some people will think the grounds a leveller, but Stradivarius doesn't like soft ground either and in any case he'd have to improve by a hell of a lot to win an Arc. He was also beaten in the last Arc trial. Might be worth looking for some value in one of the outsiders each way, you never know.

I was going to back Love and Enable. Looks like it's Enable's to lose now.

[HibernianJK]

Disappointing as I was looking forward to Enable really earning this one. A couple of months ago it looked like it could be a race for the ages with Love, Enable, Ghaiyyath the 3 main challengers with a load of others involved. It’s a bit of a damp squib and I really hope Enable doesn’t lose now.

[Hibernia&Alba]

One the bright side, it makes picking the winner much easier. Before I put the hoose on her, is there any realistic threat to Enable? Stradivarius can't give her a race over a mile and a half.

[ekhibee]

One the bright side, it makes picking the winner much easier. Before I put the hoose on her, is there any realistic threat to Enable? Stradivarius can't give her a race over a mile and a half.

Well it's difficult to see how any of that lot are going to challenge her in all honesty, I used to think Sotsass was good but his form this year has been pretty patchy, I was watching a video on youtube last week with 2 betting professionals who both fancied Enable, but one of them said he would definitely be lumping a bit each way on Japan, who was 33/1 at the time, not sure what price he is now. On his day he's a good horse, so might be worth an each way punt. It's going to be heavy ground, so any horse that's run well on that type of ground has a decent chance of finishing in a place I suppose.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Well it's difficult to see how any of that lot are going to challenge her in all honesty, I used to think Sotsass was good but his form this year has been pretty patchy, I was watching a video on youtube last week with 2 betting professionals who both fancied Enable, but one of them said he would definitely be lumping a bit each way on Japan, who was 33/1 at the time, not sure what price he is now. On his day he's a good horse, so might be worth an each way punt. It's going to be heavy ground, so any horse that's run well on that type of ground has a decent chance of finishing in a place I suppose.

The heavy ground is the one apprehension I have regarding Enable. Not her favourite ground at all. Still the most likely winner.

[Itsnoteasy]

Well it's difficult to see how any of that lot are going to challenge her in all honesty, I used to think Sotsass was good but his form this year has been pretty patchy, I was watching a video on youtube last week with 2 betting professionals who both fancied Enable, but one of them said he would definitely be lumping a bit each way on Japan, who was 33/1 at the time, not sure what price he is now. On his day he's a good horse, so might be worth an each way punt. It's going to be heavy ground, so any horse that's run well on that type of ground has a decent chance of finishing in a place I suppose.

Japan was 14/1 drifting to 16/1

[stantonhibby]

Japan was 14/1 drifting to 16/1

None of the O'Brien horses are running now. All withdrawn

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

None of the O'Brien horses are running now. All withdrawn

Contaminated feed.

[Pretty Boy]

Enable turned over. She never really looked like challenging and got in a real mess 300m out.

[RitchieHibs]

Had a small bet on the second In Swoop. Thought there might have been a case for the result to be overturned but it wasn't to be.

[ekhibee]

Yeh, Enable was beaten before she got bumped, but it was a very different race from the one I expected, fair dues to Sotsass, and I thought Persian King ran a mighty race for a miler, wasn't so surprised about In Swoop as German horses have a good record in the Arc in receent years,but I just coudln't see past Enable before the race, what do I know!!!

[Magpie]

Friend of mine who doesn’t give tips very often has text me today with Annie Rose at 7.30pm Wolverhampton. Said he had it at 9/2 this morning, now 10/3. Thought I’d share 👍🏻

[Magpie]

Friend of mine who doesn’t give tips very often has text me today with Annie Rose at 7.30pm Wolverhampton. Said he had it at 9/2 this morning, now 10/3. Thought I’d share 👍🏻

3rd, oh well 😂

[RitchieHibs]

3rd, oh well ��

I wouldn't worry about it. If every tip we got or gave came in there'd be no bookies left.

I was given a tip today for the 2.54 at Sedgefield. Looked like the proverbial good thing. Finished second! Had it on the nose. Ran a good race too but the second favourite finished well winning by half a length.

Nae worries though, that's racing.

Its good to see tips put up on the board.

[Hibs1972]

Decent racing at Cheltenham today, bit late for a selection but they won’t see which way Allmankind goes in the first. Good luck.

[Hibs1972]

Decent racing at Cheltenham today, bit late for a selection but they won’t see which way Allmankind goes in the first. Good luck.
Yeah, went backwards.:rolleyes:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Anthony Van Dyck put down after breaking a leg in The Melbourne Cup.

Twilight Payment (J. O'Brien) 25/1 led for most of the race beating Tiger Moth (A. O'Brien) 11/2 into 2nd.
Prince of Arran finished 3rd (placed in the race for the 3rd time).

[ekhibee]

Anthony Van Dyck put down after breaking a leg in The Melbourne Cup.

Twilight Payment (J. O'Brien) 25/1 led for most of the race beating Tiger Moth (A. O'Brien) 11/2 into 2nd.
Prince of Arran finished 3rd (placed in the race for the 3rd time).

Yeh, watched the race, very sad for AVD, it seemed to be in the final home straight that he got injured. Remember the gutsy race he ran in the Arc trial a month or so ago. Apart from that it was a cracking race to watch, the winner deserves a lot of credit, he basically led from start to finish which is really hard to do in a race like that. Prince of Arran was surely the best each way bet though.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Yeh, watched the race, very sad for AVD, it seemed to be in the final home straight that he got injured. Remember the gutsy race he ran in the Arc trial a month or so ago. Apart from that it was a cracking race to watch, the winner deserves a lot of credit, he basically led from start to finish which is really hard to do in a race like that. Prince of Arran was surely the best each way bet though.

If Tiger Moth had had a better draw I thought it was a good thing, decided not to get involved with him being drawn so wide.

[Hiber-nation]

Hopefully Euchen Glen win the November Handicap today. I'll be having a few bob on it anyway, always back a Scottish-trained horse that's doing well.

[Itsnoteasy]

Hopefully Euchen Glen win the November Handicap today. I'll be having a few bob on it anyway, always back a Scottish-trained horse that's doing well.

Big priced winner & all placed were good each way prices.

[Hiber-nation]

Big priced winner & all placed were good each way prices.

Aye 3rd and 4th at massive prices. A race too far for Euchen Glen.

[Pretty Boy]

Do people think we could see Tiger Roll retired after his performance today? He was pretty flat in March, Navan can be excused but then he never travelled a yard today. For all the National is easier than it once was, it's still a race that takes a lot out of a horse and TR will be an old 10 year old.

It will do nothing for racings Image if he tips up when out of contention and is seriously injured or is repeatedly pulled up and miserable. The O'Learys daughters are apparently in love with the horse so he wouldn't want for a good home.

[Snedz]

The jockey on Saint Roi should be suspended. A shocking ride on a horse that should have won that race cosily. Dearie me. I didn't have a penny on the race but watched it anyway. I'd have been throwing things at the telly if I had. Complete shocker.

[Pretty Boy]

The jockey on Saint Roi should be suspended. A shocking ride on a horse that should have won that race cosily. Dearie me. I didn't have a penny on the race but watched it anyway. I'd have been throwing things at the telly if I had. Complete shocker.

Speaking of jockeys being suspended I see the jockey on Equus Secretus who was fatally injured at Cheltenham yesterday has been given a 10 day ban.

A horrible incident. The horse was clearly injured after trailing his back legs in the water and the jockey failed to notice and rode him hard into the open ditch. Jockey was an inexperienced amateur but it was still a baffling lack of awareness. I can't imagine his phone will be ringing off the hook when his suspension is up.

[Snedz]

Speaking of jockeys being suspended I see the jockey on Equus Secretus who was fatally injured at Cheltenham yesterday has been given a 10 day ban.

A horrible incident. The horse was clearly injured after trailing his back legs in the water and the jockey failed to notice and rode him hard into the open ditch. Jockey was an inexperienced amateur but it was still a baffling lack of awareness. I can't imagine his phone will be ringing off the hook when his suspension is up.

Tragic story that. The horse would have suffered terribly. Deserves a longer time out of racing than 10 days. Hopefully as you rightly say trainers will be wary of hiring him for some time to come.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Altior withdrawn from his race at Sandown today, due to the very soft ground. Real shame, but some cracking jump races on offer at Sandown and Aintree today.

[Hibernia&Alba]

What's happened to Goshen since his very unlucky fall at the Cheltenham Festival last March? He looked a world beater prior to that day, but since then has produced two underwhelming flat runs and had a disaster over hurdles today, finishing dead last. Was he a flash in the plan, or is there another reason?

[stantonhibby]

What's happened to Goshen since his very unlucky fall at the Cheltenham Festival last March? He looked a world beater prior to that day, but since then has produced two underwhelming flat runs and had a disaster over hurdles today, finishing dead last. Was he a flash in the plan, or is there another reason?

He certainly went backwards at a rate of knots today!

[Hibernia&Alba]

He certainly went backwards at a rate of knots today!

Heart murmur detected later, apparently. It would certainly explain yesterday's performance. Hopefully they can get him sorted.

I've just watched a race at Carlisle in which two horses may have died, following heavy falls in attritional conditions. I will keep an eye on it, but one of them certainly looked bad.

[Pretty Boy]

An absolutely brilliant ride by Bryony Frost in the King George today. Frodon is a gutsy little horse and he jumps well. She made it a test, stacked them up behind and just kept going when the others started making mistakes. It was the only way he could win the race and it was good plan well executed.

Her 175th winner as well making her the wininng most female jockey in national hunt history. That does her a disservice though. She's not a good female jockey, she's just a good jockey.

I thought Shan Blue was a very good winner of the Kauto Star/Feltham. Jumped really well which set him apart from the rest of the field which was characterised by jumping errors, the most notable being the Big Breakaway at 2 of the last 3 when challenging.

[Hiber-nation]

Yeah absolutely brilliant for Frodon and Briony, loved watching that.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Epatante beaten yesterday; Altior beaten today.

[Pretty Boy]

Altior isn't a 2 miler anymore.

It's happened before to horses, think Master Minded, and it will happen again. They just lose that turn off foot that is so vital over 2 miles. He's not got the same steady, high cruising Speed the likes of Sprinter Sacre had; he's always had a flat spot in him.

Time to try upping the distance again I think.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Just watched the bumper at Leopardstown, where Reality Cheque was 4/7 and cruising when sent on to win it in the last couple of furlongs, only to seemingly shatter a leg and fall, in what was only his second race. Breaks my heart to see it; it looked fatal.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Altior isn't a 2 miler anymore.

It's happened before to horses, think Master Minded, and it will happen again. They just lose that turn off foot that is so vital over 2 miles. He's not got the same steady, high cruising Speed the likes of Sprinter Sacre had; he's always had a flat spot in him.

Time to try upping the distance again I think.

Yes, he's nearly eleven now. Two milers at Grade 1 is a massive ask.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Cheltenham off on Friday, a tad disappointing.

[ekhibee]

Great front running performance from Frodon/Frost, but watching Nicholls' interview after the race he was surely taking the piss when he said Frodon was now a Gold Cup contender, he's been shown up before in that level of quality on numerous occasions, but that's just my opinion.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Great front running performance from Frodon/Frost, but watching Nicholls' interview after the race he was surely taking the piss when he said Frodon was now a Gold Cup contender, he's been shown up before in that level of quality on numerous occasions, but that's just my opinion.

It's not like Nicholls to be obtuse during his interviews, perhaps the horse has improved, certainly deserved the win at Kempton. Highly unlikely to beat Al Boum Photo right enough.

[Pretty Boy]

Great front running performance from Frodon/Frost, but watching Nicholls' interview after the race he was surely taking the piss when he said Frodon was now a Gold Cup contender, he's been shown up before in that level of quality on numerous occasions, but that's just my opinion.

I'd be very surprised if Frodon won a GC. It was hardly a vintage renewal at Kempton.

Equally though the Gold Cup field doesn't look particularly strong. We learned nothing about Al Boum Photo yesterday, he won a race by 19L that he should have been winning by about that margin. I'm not convinced he is unbeatable but picking a horse to do it from the current crop isn't easy. A Plus Tard was a good winner of the Savills Chase and has run well round Cheltenham before but he's essentially unproven as a true stayer, Kemboy was a good 2nd in that race but again I'm not sure he's a GC winner in waiting, he's had his chance and history is against him. Who makes up the field Santini, Champ, Delta Work, Benie Des Deaux, Lostintranslation, Presenting Percy, Bristol De Mai, Native River...... I'm not seeing many superstars in that list. Santini seems the most likely as his Kempton run can be all but forgotten about.

If he gets a lead and the race starts to fall apart then I suppose Frodon could nick it. I'd want more then 16s to bet on it though.

[Pretty Boy]

In other news it was brilliant to see 13 year old Seeyouatmidnight win the veterans chase at Sandown today. What a horse he has been for Sandy Thomson.

There's a bit of what could have been with him as injuries blighted his career but coming back from nearly 2 years off with 2 wins from 4 races is good going. Won the Dipper at Cheltenham, 3rd in a Scottish National, turned over Bristol De Mai in a match race and completed a Grand National despite being out injured for a year in the lead up.

It's always good to see a horse from Scotland or the North make the trip south and pick up a big prize.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

In other news it was brilliant to see 13 year old Seeyouatmidnight win the veterans chase at Sandown today. What a horse he has been for Sandy Thomson.

There's a bit of what could have been with him as injuries blighted his career but coming back from nearly 2 years off with 2 wins from 4 races is good going. Won the Dipper at Cheltenham, 3rd in a Scottish National, turned over Bristol De Mai in a match race and completed a Grand National despite being out injured for a year in the lead up.

It's always good to see a horse from Scotland or the North make the trip south and pick up a big prize.

I agree, my old man backed the 2nd EW and was slightly less complimentary.

I got a price boost double on Betfair on Ibleo and Metier that I managed to put on twice by mistake which was nice.

Won a right few quid on the Saturday night football games too although some mob from down the bottom of the street stopped it from being even better.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I backed Out on the tear at Catterick a couple of weeks ago. Runs again at Catterick tomorrow over 4f longer. If it stays it wins, 2s on Betfair just now.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I backed Out on the tear at Catterick a couple of weeks ago. Runs again at Catterick tomorrow over 4f longer. If it stays it wins, 2s on Betfair just now.

2nd, Failed to stay as well as the winner.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Has anyone already put their early Cheltenham bets on?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Has anyone already put their early Cheltenham bets on?

If you fancy a British horse back it now before The Irish are told their horses can't travel over.

Quite fancy Metier if it's soft ground.

[Pretty Boy]

Shishkin in the Arkle. Got a few bets on him at various prices and if the current 5/6 holds I might have a bit more yet.

Stuck a few quid on Melon for the Ryanair as well. Ran well in the Saville Chase and he goes fairly well at Cheltenham.

[Pretty Boy]

I see Khalid Abdullah has died.

I know he was talking about winding down the Juddmonte operation a few years back, I wonder if this will see an acceleration of that happening. There would be some eye watering prices if some of that bloodstock came to auction.

[Pretty Boy]

Envoi Allen a good winner today at Punchestown albeit the main threat to him fell at the 1st.

He looks a seriously impressive horse though and could well be anything.

[Hermit Crab]

I'm not a horse racing fan but I think a few posters might be interested in this. Blatant cheating, corruption?

https://twitter.com/jackwesthamutd/status/1350766004482281473?s=20 (https://twitter.com/jackwesthamutd/status/1350766004482281473?s=20)

[Hibernia&Alba]

How good was Shishkin yesterday? Jogged around in a Grade 2. Only a small field but it was ridiculously easy. Currently around 8/11 for the Arkle, which looks like free money.

[Hibernia&Alba]

A guy lucky not to be killed in New Zealand:


https://youtu.be/t5JpRZzkQcQ

[Pretty Boy]

How good was Shishkin yesterday? Jogged around in a Grade 2. Only a small field but it was ridiculously easy. Currently around 8/11 for the Arkle, which looks like free money.

I thought they might have pushed him out a bit more, probably would have been worked harder schooling at home.

Still he got round safe and sound. I've got a few quid tied up in him so that was my main worry. Doubt I'll be investing much more at the price now but if anyone hasn't got a bet on yet he looks the banker of the week.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Tactics: just run two miles as if it's a sprint race :greengrin


https://youtu.be/NLRdVaC_kWQ

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Tremendous performance from Native River at Sandown there. I thought those kind of days were in the past for him.

[Pretty Boy]

Great run by Native River. I'd love to see him go to Aintree in April but the owners won't run him in the National.

The Edinburgh National at Musselburgh on the other hand was a dismal spectacle. Tired horses slogging through heavy ground for 4 miles and a tired fall leading to a fatality at the 2nd last. A ridiculous addition to the fixture card at This time of year and footage like that does no one any favours.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Great run by Native River. I'd love to see him go to Aintree in April but the owners won't run him in the National.

The Edinburgh National at Musselburgh on the other hand was a dismal spectacle. Tired horses slogging through heavy ground for 4 miles and a tired fall leading to a fatality at the 2nd last. A ridiculous addition to the fixture card at This time of year and footage like that does no one any favours.

I watched the race and feared as much. The horse was exhausted and didn't move after coming down. Was it Be Humble? RIP fella.

Honeysuckle outstanding in Grade 1 hurdle as Leopardstown. Her odds for the Cheltenham Mares Hurdle now slashed, assuming that's where she goes again. She routed a strong field.

[Pretty Boy]

I watched the race and feared as much. The horse was exhausted and didn't move after coming down. Was it Be Humble? RIP fella.

Honeysuckle outstanding in Grade 1 hurdle as Leopardstown. Her odds for the Cheltenham Mares Hurdle now slashed, assuming that's where she goes again. She routed a strong field.

Stay Humble I think but yeah same horse.

Tbh I think he had a heart attack or similar in mid air. Was a strange fall and he never moved a muscle after landing. A grim spectacle. I understand why the jockey would have been reluctant to pull up whilst in contention but the horse was absolutely exhausted.

[ekhibee]

I watched the race and feared as much. The horse was exhausted and didn't move after coming down. Was it Be Humble? RIP fella.

Honeysuckle outstanding in Grade 1 hurdle as Leopardstown. Her odds for the Cheltenham Mares Hurdle now slashed, assuming that's where she goes again. She routed a strong field.

It's always tragic when a horse, RIP Be Humble.

Honeysuckle would IMO, if she's allowed to travel over, win the Champion Hurdle, she's a brilliant horse, but they'll probably go for the mares instead, and that'll be a much shorter price obviously.

[Hibernia&Alba]

It's always tragic when a horse, RIP Be Humble.

Honeysuckle would IMO, if she's allowed to travel over, win the Champion Hurdle, she's a brilliant horse, but they'll probably go for the mares instead, and that'll be a much shorter price obviously.

It's looking like Honeysuckle will indeed go for the Champion Hurdle.

[Pretty Boy]

Presenting Percy and Bristol De Mai both scratched from the Gold Cup and both are heading for the National.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Another Gold Cup in the offing for Al Boum.

Whatever race Kemboy goes for is worth a bet too (probably won't be until Aintree though).

[HibernianJK]

Presenting Percy and Bristol De Mai both scratched from the Gold Cup and both are heading for the National.

PP a very interesting national horse

[Hibs1972]

Right lads, Cheltenham about 4 weeks away so had a wee look for a few tips to make us all a wee bit cash in time for pubs being opened again!
5 horse acca to start:Shishkin(Arkle) Concertista(mares hurdle) Monkfish(brown advisory chase) Envoi Allen(Marsh chase) and Chacun Pour Soi(Champion chase) all look good individually I suppose but just can’t see what(apart from the fences) can beat any of them. In the Supreme I’m going for Thedevilscoachman at 20-1 must be a cracking ew bet, admittedly well beaten by the fav before but has came on leaps n bounds since then and won easily last twice. Lastly Honeysuckle in the champion hurdle. Good luck!!!

[Hiber-nation]

Right lads, Cheltenham about 4 weeks away so had a wee look for a few tips to make us all a wee bit cash in time for pubs being opened again!
5 horse acca to start:Shishkin(Arkle) Concertista(mares hurdle) Monkfish(brown advisory chase) Envoi Allen(Marsh chase) and Chacun Pour Soi(Champion chase) all look good individually I suppose but just can’t see what(apart from the fences) can beat any of them. In the Supreme I’m going for Thedevilscoachman at 20-1 must be a cracking ew bet, admittedly well beaten by the fav before but has came on leaps n bounds since then and won easily last twice. Lastly Honeysuckle in the champion hurdle. Good luck!!!

Cheers :aok:

[Pretty Boy]

I liked the look of Monmiral at Haydock today. 4th race, 4th win and he does it with minimal fuss. I was intrigued to see if he was heading for the Triumph but he's not. He's joint owned by John Hales and Alex Ferguson and they, along with Paul Nicholls, have decided to head straight for Aintree then onto chasing next year. It's a similar path as the one he went with for Frodon and Clan Des Obeaux so will be interesting to watch over the next couple of years.

Cyrname pulled up again. His form reads 2F1PP for his last 5 and I'll be looking straight past him for the Ryanair if he runs as they surely won't press ahead with his Gold Cup entry now.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Cyrname's form is very strange. He was jumping well today, only to suddenly seem to stop. Don't know if something is wrong physically, but it was alarming how quickly he ran out of petrol.

I didn't see Goshen's race that he won by 22 lengths. He might be re-finding his form.

[HibernianJK]

Goshen chucked a grenade in the champion hurdle market which looked to be between Epatante and Honeysuckle. Could be a belter of a race this year.

[Pretty Boy]

I see Paul Nicholls has confirmed Black Corton is to retire after being pulled up today. He's going to live with Bryony Frost which is a good ending for him.

He is one of those horses that is in a weird position though. Only 10 so realistically could have a couple of years left and would qualify for the veterans series. However he's not quite good enough for graded races anymore but almost too good for handicaps as he is landed with top weight regularly. You get the freaks like Denman or Many Clouds who can lump 11st 10 or 12lbs round and give weight to everyone but for many winning races is almost a curse.

I'm not sure there is really a solution but it seems it's far easier to go up in the handicap than it is to come down gor some horses.

[Pretty Boy]

Apologies for the Daily Mail link. However if there is anything in this then it really doesn't reflect well on Gordon Elliot....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9308249/amp/Gordon-Elliot-investigation-image-sat-dead-horse-surfaces.html?__twitter_impression=true

[Hibernia&Alba]

Apologies for the Daily Mail link. However if there is anything in this then it really doesn't reflect well on Gordon Elliot....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9308249/amp/Gordon-Elliot-investigation-image-sat-dead-horse-surfaces.html?__twitter_impression=true

WTF? Is that genuine?

[Pretty Boy]

WTF? Is that genuine?

I'm sceptical, something about the picture doesn't look right. However his response in Twitter doesn't read like much of a denial.

I really hope it's not or it's a gift to the antis.

[stantonhibby]

I'm sceptical, something about the picture doesn't look right. However his response in Twitter doesn't read like much of a denial.

I really hope it's not or it's a gift to the antis.

He has now admitted the photo is real.

[Pretty Boy]

He has now admitted the photo is real.

The excuse is right out the Dominic Cummings play book.

Horse died of a heart attack, I was standing over it to help remove it, my phone rang and I instinctively sat down to answer it then someone shouted on me so I gestured I would be 2 minutes.

Sure thing Gordon.

[Hiber-nation]

The excuse is right out the Dominic Cummings play book.

Horse died of a heart attack, I was standing over it to help remove it, my phone rang and I instinctively sat down to answer it then someone shouted on me so I gestured I would be 2 minutes.

Sure thing Gordon.

Funny that, Cummings was the first thing that came to my mind as well.

I've never taken to Elliot, always thought there was something about him. Now we await what action will be taken against him....hmmmm.

[Hibernia&Alba]

He has now admitted the photo is real.

Then he is a total prick. Why does he have a big grin on face after the horse has just dropped dead?

Can he be sanctioned by the racing authorities in Ireland? Deserves to be.

[Hibernia&Alba]

The excuse is right out the Dominic Cummings play book.

Horse died of a heart attack, I was standing over it to help remove it, my phone rang and I instinctively sat down to answer it then someone shouted on me so I gestured I would be 2 minutes.

Sure thing Gordon.

Fat fool expects that to fly? GTF.

[Magpie]

Apologies for the Daily Mail link. However if there is anything in this then it really doesn't reflect well on Gordon Elliot....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9308249/amp/Gordon-Elliot-investigation-image-sat-dead-horse-surfaces.html?__twitter_impression=true

Disgusting. Lost all respect for the guy.

[Hiber-nation]

Elliot dropped by Betfair from his ambassador role but unsurprisingly, not by Michael O'Leary.

[stantonhibby]

Elliot dropped by Betfair from his ambassador role but unsurprisingly, not by Michael O'Leary.

He probably took the picture.

[The Captain....]

Enjoy my racing but more of a flat fan, however still keep an eye on the jumps and got family who are close to a couple of racing yards.

Cannot believe how stupid Elliott has been here. Imo he has effectively ended his training career. I feel sorry for the hard working staff at his training centre who are likely to bare the brunt of the fall out in terms of cut backs etc. I see the BHA (an institution I have little regard for) have released a statement saying Elliott's horses cannot run at Cheltenham until the IHRB investigation is concluded and a decision reached. The most sensible course of action now would be for GE to step down voluntarily until after Cheltenham and Aintree with a full apology (not the mealy mouthed attempt at mitigating his actions he released last night).

There are rumours there are further revelations to come, makes you wonder who has been behind it, as stupid as it was the timing is deliberate to cause maximum damage. The collateral fall out to racing in general has been disastrous.

[HibernianJK]

A horrible affair to be involved with. I have heard from a couple of Irish mates that there was a massive bust up at Elliots yard involving a couple of female employees both apparently seeking Elliots affection. One was Kate Harrington, daughter of Jessica and not too sure who the second woman was. Harrington apparently left with quite bad facial injuries

Purely speculation however one of said women may have leaked this photo to an anonymous twitter account. Don’t hold me as gospel to this however have seen some WhatsApp messages relating to this with a detailed story. Elliot as apparently a pig of a man so it may not all be rubbish.

[Pretty Boy]

In actual racing news. Tiger Roll out of the National. Giggingstown unhappy with the weight allocation.

[Pretty Boy]

Cheveley Park removing all their horses from Elliot. Envoi Allen going to Henry De Bromhead.

[Bostonhibby]

WTF is wrong with these people?

Disrespecting the dead animals that they derive a very good living from. I'm a racing fan who has slowly been drifting away from it but if the authorities do not absolutely ostracise them then that might be it for me.

There are no excuses or exceptions and certainly not the pathetic ones they are hoping to get away with here.

In Elliott's case I think the picture and the excuse probably tells us much about the true nature of the "man".

Biggest regret is more likely to be that they were outed.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210302/f07e86036ec2ed4af3afc155e4c60bd5.jpg

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[heretoday]

It's a bit hypocritical for the likes of Scudamore and Walsh to come out in emotional defence of racehorses when we've all seen them and others laying into their mounts like lunatics in the run-in.

Racing can be a cruel sport for a horse unless it's one of the pampered few. Otherwise it's off to the knacker's.

[Pretty Boy]

It's a bit hypocritical for the likes of Scudamore and Walsh to come out in emotional defence of racehorses when we've all seen them and others laying into their mounts like lunatics in the run-in.

Racing can be a cruel sport for a horse unless it's one of the pampered few. Otherwise it's off to the knacker's.

I remember a few years ago Walsh caused a bit of a furore just before Cheltenham when he said horses were 'replaceable'. It was a bit unfair on him because it was reported without context, he had been speaking about the injury and subsequent death of JT McNamara a couple of minutes before and suggested the death of a horse had to be put into perspective.

People can make their own judgement on that. However I think there has to be an acceptance that some people in racing will view horses as livestock. A farmer doesn't get emotionally attached to the sheep that make him his living; if one gets an infected tick bite he will dispatch it without a 2nd thought. Ultimately Thoroughbreds and Selle Francais horses are bred for a specific purpose and to all intents and purposes they are livestock. Gordon Elliot has hundred of horses in his yard, top jockeys ride hundreds of horses a year and it would be a fool that thinks they love every single one.

That doesn't change the fact that they should be treated with the utmost respect in life and death though. Owners, breeders and trainers should be obliged to rehome horses whenever their careers end. That may stop the overbreeding of poor quality stock that is seen as dispensable. Further actions like that of Elliot or Rob James should be treated as the reprehensible acts they are and punished. Just because an animal is 'only' livestock doesn't mean it doesn't deserve due care and attention.

[Hibernia&Alba]

In actual racing news. Tiger Roll out of the National. Giggingstown unhappy with the weight allocation.

A real shame for the race, but they have to do what they think best for the horse.


Cheveley Park removing all their horses from Elliot. Envoi Allen going to Henry De Bromhead.

Aye, ultimately the owners will decide Elliott's fate. If enough of them decide not to send their horses, he won't have a yard left. It will be interesting to see what happens.

[heretoday]

A real shame for the race, but they have to do what they think best for the horse.



Aye, ultimately the owners will decide Elliott's fate. If enough of them decide not to send their horses, he won't have a yard left. It will be interesting to see what happens.

He'll get a knuckle rap. He probably knows too much about other bigwigs in the game.

[Magpie]

Gordon Elliott has been banned for a year - the last six months suspended - and has been fined €15,000 by the IHRB. The ban will begin on 9 March.

[Pretty Boy]

That's far more than I expected. It won't go far enough for some of course but it's a pretty hefty ban.

I assume it's him personally that has been banned rather than his yard? He employs 70+ people at Cullentra and it would be a shame if they lost their jobs because of his stupidity.

[Hibernia&Alba]

That's far more than I expected. It won't go far enough for some of course but it's a pretty hefty ban.

I assume it's him personally that has been banned rather than his yard? He employs 70+ people at Cullentra and it would be a shame if they lost their jobs because of his stupidity.

But how would that work? Wouldn't it be impossible to prevent his having input, if the yard stays open, even if he isn't there in person? It will be interesting to learn what the ban means in practice.

[Pretty Boy]

But how would that work? Wouldn't it be impossible to prevent his having input, if the yard stays open, even if he isn't there in person? It will be interesting to learn what the ban means in practice.

I'd assume one of his assistants would just send horses to the races under their name. As you say it's unlikely Elliot wouldn't still have an input and I'm not sure how much desire there would be to scrutinise that too much from the IHRB.

Tbh the vast majority of his ban will be served during the quiet summer months anyway. Missing Cheltenham, Aintree, Punchestown and Galway will hurt him but he'll be back and ready to go for the start of the new season proper. It wouldn't shock me to see a few owners, particularly the likes of Cheveley Park, move horses back to him once they have had their runs at those festivals.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I'd assume one of his assistants would just send horses to the races under their name. As you say it's unlikely Elliot wouldn't still have an input and I'm not sure how much desire there would be to scrutinise that too much from the IHRB.

Tbh the vast majority of his ban will be served during the quiet summer months anyway. Missing Cheltenham, Aintree, Punchestown and Galway will hurt him but he'll be back and ready to go for the start of the new season proper. It wouldn't shock me to see a few owners, particularly the likes of Cheveley Park, move horses back to him once they have had their runs at those festivals.

Will his horses still be allowed to run at those meetings?

[Pretty Boy]

Will his horses still be allowed to run at those meetings?

Again I think one of his assistants will suddenly be installed as head trainer and take out the relevant license if they don't already have it.

A bit like when Henry Cecil died and his wife took out a training license until the end of the season. Same team, same stables, same horses but the name on the forms had changed.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Again I think one of his assistants will suddenly be installed as head trainer and take out the relevant license if they don't already have it.

A bit like when Henry Cecil died and his wife took out a training license until the end of the season. Same team, same stables, same horses but the name on the forms had changed.

Yes, he's created a real mess. It would be a shame to punish the horses in his yard, but then the issue is how to impose a ban that is meaningful. I was watching a a few races yesterday and there was talk of how devastated Elliott's employees are by the loss of some great horses. Their trust in him must be broken.

[Hibernia&Alba]

At The Races Cheltenham preview:


https://youtu.be/8MEG1V0yhAw

[Hiber-nation]

Racing now needs to try to highlight the care these horses get from their dedicated stable staff. Although it'll no doubt be overshadowed by more horses dying at Cheltenham.

[davy67 +]

A horrible affair to be involved with. I have heard from a couple of Irish mates that there was a massive bust up at Elliots yard involving a couple of female employees both apparently seeking Elliots affection. One was Kate Harrington, daughter of Jessica and not too sure who the second woman was. Harrington apparently left with quite bad facial injuries

Purely speculation however one of said women may have leaked this photo to an anonymous twitter account. Don’t hold me as gospel to this however have seen some WhatsApp messages relating to this with a detailed story. Elliot as apparently a pig of a man so it may not all be rubbish.

I had a feeling that there was a a disgruntled ex employee or something similar behind the story, it seems strange that ithe photo has just only surfaced now when it was taken some time ago

[Pretty Boy]

Denise Foster to take over as trainer at Cullentra. To be confirmed over the weekend. BHA confirms horses can't run at Cheltenham or Aintree under Elliots name but if they are switched to another licensed trainer in time they can run. That part will be a formality.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Denise Foster to take over as trainer at Cullentra. To be confirmed over the weekend. BHA confirms horses can't run at Cheltenham or Aintree under Elliots name but if they are switched to another licensed trainer in time they can run. That part will be a formality.

From a racing perspective, that's good to know. It would be a travesty if the horses missed out because of him.

[Hibernia&Alba]

When is the deadline for declaring which horses are in which races at Cheltenham?

[Hiber-nation]

When is the deadline for declaring which horses are in which races at Cheltenham?

Think its 48 hours in advance of the race.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Think its 48 hours in advance of the race.

Cheers mate. Remember to pile on Envoi Allen (currently around 8/11 but will likely go off 2/5 or shorter) ante-post. :agree:

[Hibs1972]

Cheers mate. Remember to pile on Envoi Allen (currently around 8/11 but will likely go off 2/5 or shorter) ante-post. :agree:
As I previously mentioned I’ve put up 5 hotpots for next week, truly unoriginal I know, put up 1 in the first on Tuesday at a good price but non runner now!! NRNB so guaranteed something after 1st race. Of all the hotpots I put up I think Concertista at 11-10 is best of the lot, can see her going off nearer 4-6 on the day as next 2 in betting are more likely to run elsewhere.

[Hibernia&Alba]

As I previously mentioned I’ve put up 5 hotpots for next week, truly unoriginal I know, put up 1 in the first on Tuesday at a good price but non runner now!! NRNB so guaranteed something after 1st race. Of all the hotpots I put up I think Concertista at 11-10 is best of the lot, can see her going off nearer 4-6 on the day as next 2 in betting are more likely to run elsewhere.

Plenty of cracking races ahead. Concertista certainly has a good chance. The two bankers of the festival for me are Monkfish and Envoi Allen, so I've put a 200 double on them. If that comes in, I will be okay, whatever happens with other bets.

[Pretty Boy]

For anyone one interested there is a documentary on the ITV Hub called Being A Jockey following Daryl Jacob for a season. Not watched it yet but I watched a similar show on RTE a few years ago following Ruby Walsh, Davy Russell and Barry Geraghty and it was really interesting.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Energumene out of the Arkle, due to lameness. A real shame for the race, but good for those of us on Shishkin ante-post. He has now shortened to around 1/2.

[HibernianJK]

Plenty of cracking races ahead. Concertista certainly has a good chance. The two bankers of the festival for me are Monkfish and Envoi Allen, so I've put a 200 double on them. If that comes in, I will be okay, whatever happens with other bets.

Fancy Roksana to give the favourite a really tough go in the Mares.

[Pretty Boy]

Royal Pagaille runs in the Gold Cup. Altior out of the Champion Chase.

[Hibs1972]

Us and them 4.15 Cheltenham Wednesday, say no more.:cb

[Hibernia&Alba]

Royal Pagaille runs in the Gold Cup. Altior out of the Champion Chase.

What a shame, after also missing Cheltenham last year. We probably won't see him run there again.

[ekhibee]

E/W First Flow in the Champion Chase on Wednesday, he's at 12'1 at the moment. I've always liked Bailey's stable when they've got a good horse, so we'll see.

[Pretty Boy]

I've got a wedge on Shiskin in the Arkle ante post. Doubt I'll have anything else at the price now.

I might have a nibble on Pym in the Ultima, 11s is a fair price and if he can find his form he's a more than decent horse.

I'm on Honeysuckle ante post in the Champion Hurdle but I think I'll have a small e/w on James Du Berlais at 25s. He was highly rated in France and the owners could have taken other options with him. Willie Hills are paying 5 places so 5/1 he finishes in the top half of the race is worth a small bet imo.

Got Concertista ante post in the Mares as well.

That will be me for day 1. Keep my powder dry for later in the week and hopefully add a bit more to the pot.

[Hiber-nation]

Skybet doing money back as cash if your horse loses for the Supreme Novices which has only 8 runners this year! I'm having a wee punt on Ballyadam.

E.w on Glorious Zoff in the 4.15.

[SteveHFC]

Like the look of Blue Lord at 11/1.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I have several accas across the four days. Biggest bet is a 200 double on Monkfish and Envoi Allen.

For tomorrow:

1.55 - Shishkin (win); Captain Guinness (each way)

2.30 - Milan Native (each way)

3:40 - Concertista (win)

4:15 - Haux Gris and Sage Advice (both each way)

4:50 - Next Destination (win); Remastered (each way)

[Magpie]

£50 treble on Appreciate it, Shishkin and happygolucky paying £536.93

£2 lucky 15 each way on Saint Sam, Goshen, Aye Right and Metier.

£20 reverse forecast on Honeysuckle & Epatante at 3/1

[hibbysam]

Homme public 12/1 in the 4.15. Beat a neck off the favourite in France off even weights, receiving a couple of pound this time around. Won’t be far away I wouldn’t think.

[Magpie]

Homme public 12/1 in the 4.15. Beat a neck off the favourite in France off even weights, receiving a couple of pound this time around. Won’t be far away I wouldn’t think.

Thanks for the heads up. Paddy Power paying 6 places on that one so gone £15 each way on it at 14/1.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Wow - Appreciate It by twenty lengths or so against very good horses. Tremendous.

Blue Lord was looking nailed on for second until falling at the last. So unlucky.

[Magpie]

Wow - Appreciate It by twenty lengths or so against very good horses. Tremendous.

Blue Lord was looking nailed on for second until falling at the last. So unlucky.

Brilliant run 👏🏻

[Magpie]

£50 treble on Appreciate it, Shishkin and happygolucky paying £536.93

£2 lucky 15 each way on Saint Sam, Goshen, Aye Right and Metier.

£20 reverse forecast on Honeysuckle & Epatante at 3/1

Happygolucky for the treble 🤞

[Magpie]

Happygolucky for the treble 🤞

Gutted!! 😫

[offshorehibby]

I went with lucky 15

Appreciate It
Shashkin
Honeysuckle
Concertista

3 races in and it's looking good. For some reason i always seem to have a great first day and it goes down hill after that.

I had a free bet to use up today so i've a we EW on Saint Sam at 4:15

[Hibernia&Alba]

I went with lucky 15

Appreciate It
Shashkin
Honeysuckle
Concertista

3 races in and it's looking good. For some reason i always seem to have a great first day and it goes down hill after that.

I had a free bet to use up today so i've a we EW on Saint Sam at 4:15

I don't know about these exotic bets. What does lucky fifteen mean in relation to your bet?

[Pretty Boy]

I don't know about these exotic bets. What does lucky fifteen mean in relation to your bet?

15 bets in 1 so 1 acca, 4 trebles, six doubles and 4 singles.

A £1 lucky 15 would cost £15.

[Hiber-nation]

Shocker of a ride from Jamie Spencer on the evens favourite in the 7.15 at Newcastle tonight. Seen it all before, waited way way too long before he made his move and was edged out. Glad I only had a few quid on it....🙄

[Hibs1972]

Wee tip for the season, follow Laura Pearson and I’m sure you’ll go well. Seen her last season and she looks top class. Got a few rides this weekend, maybe do a wee Yankee tonight at Wolverhampton.:aok:

[Pretty Boy]

Shocker of a ride from Jamie Spencer on the evens favourite in the 7.15 at Newcastle tonight. Seen it all before, waited way way too long before he made his move and was edged out. Glad I only had a few quid on it....🙄

I had similar with Richard Kingscote on a favourite at Lingfield yesterday. Dropped the horse right out the back, didn't move a muscle until well inside the last furlong, horse picked up well but had far too much to do and got beaten by half a length. Horse was still full of running but leaving 8 or 9 lengths to be found in a 6 furlong race is crazy.

[LustForLeith]

Here’s the 64,000 question...!

How do folk come up with their horse selections? Do you concentrate on a particular style of race, odds, form or do you pick names you like?

Just wondering!

[Hibernia&Alba]

Shocker of a ride from Jamie Spencer on the evens favourite in the 7.15 at Newcastle tonight. Seen it all before, waited way way too long before he made his move and was edged out. Glad I only had a few quid on it....🙄







Charlie Deutsch in the three o'clock at Ludlow today: a criminal ride, and his only ride of the day. If he wasn't complacent, he must have placed a sly lay bet against his horse, a 4/9 fav in a hurdle. He hung around towards the back for almost all the race, and the horse had barely broken sweat by the time he finally decided to shake the reins - AFTER the final hurdle. Didn't move a muscle until that point; didn't cover the move by the jockey in the lead and came second. :rolleyes:

[Pretty Boy]

Has anyone on here been to Newmarket?

It seems a glaring omission from my racing CV. Planning a trip next May and debating either the Chester Cup, Dante at York (both of which I have been to before) or Newmarket for the Guineas. I'm leaning towards the latter as it would also allow a trip to the National Stud and the racing museum.

Any advice on enclosures, places to stay etc would be appreciated.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Has anyone on here been to Newmarket?

It seems a glaring omission from my racing CV. Planning a trip next May and debating either the Chester Cup, Dante at York (both of which I have been to before) or Newmarket for the Guineas. I'm leaning towards the latter as it would also allow a trip to the National Stud and the racing museum.

Any advice on enclosures, places to stay etc would be appreciated.

I went years ago for Champions Day (one of the years Alborada won), my mate was guaranteed about £14k from The Racing Post's 10 to follow so paid for us to go down. It was a down and back on the same day Planes, Trains & Automobiles sort of trip (train to Prestwick, flew from Prestwick to Stansted, taxi to the course, taxi to Luton for the flight back to Edinburgh), I'm sure we were back in Ryans for about 2100! George Duffield helped pay for the pints. 😀

Cannae help with places to stay, no recollection which stand we were in.

[Hiber-nation]

Richard Johnson has retired. What a jockey.

[Pretty Boy]

Walsh, McCoy, Geraghty and now Johnson all retired.

I'm getting old.

[Greenbeard]

Walsh, McCoy, Geraghty and now Johnson all retired.

I'm getting old.
End of an era with that four.
Like Mellor, Biddlecombe, Gifford, Kellaway(?) in the 60s.
Francome, O'Neill, Scu and Dunwoody in the 70s/80s.
Who's the next four to dominate the next decade or so?

[Hiber-nation]

End of an era with that four.
Like Mellor, Biddlecombe, Gifford, Kellaway(?) in the 60s.
Francome, O'Neill, Scu and Dunwoody in the 70s/80s.
Who's the next four to dominate the next decade or so?

Can't believe that, I was just going to post that I remember Mellor, Biddlecombe & Gifford retiring!

[Mikey_1875]

150/1 winner of the Irish national. Led from the front what a performance

[Hibernia&Alba]

150/1 winner of the Irish national. Led from the front what a performance

Freewheelin Dylan, ye wee beauty. I had £2 each way and won £364:greengrin:flag:

[Hibernia&Alba]

Here he is. Led from the first fence to the last like an odds on favourite. :greengrin


https://youtu.be/HuHxY6QQs6Y

[Hibernia&Alba]

Okay ye radges, what's your nap for the first day of Aintree tomorrow?

[WeeRussell]

Okay ye radges, what's your nap for the first day of Aintree tomorrow?

Haven't really been thinking about it now that the superior brother 'flat racing' is properly returning :greengrin however..

I don't see why THE SHUNTER can't continue his good form stepping out of handicaps at 7/2 in the first, and maybe BILLAWAY can get compensation for being edged-out up the hill at Cheltenham, 3/1 in the 4.05.

good luck.. I guess it's something to keep us busy until the golf comes on :aok:

[Hibernia&Alba]

Haven't really been thinking about it now that the superior brother 'flat racing' is properly returning :greengrin however..

I don't see why THE SHUNTER can't continue his good form stepping out of handicaps at 7/2 in the first, and maybe BILLAWAY can get compensation for being edged-out up the hill at Cheltenham, 3/1 in the 4.05.

good luck.. I guess it's something to keep us busy until the golf comes on :aok:

I cannae stand that game, sorry :greengrin

[Mikey_1875]

Okay ye radges, what's your nap for the first day of Aintree tomorrow?

Like the look of Jason the Militant in the 3:25 and was impressed with Elle Est Belle at Cheltenham so will probably put them on a double. The 2:50 looks an exciting race with Tiger Roll thrown into the mix as well

[Hibernia&Alba]

Like the look of Jason the Militant in the 3:25 and was impressed with Elle Est Belle at Cheltenham so will probably put them on a double. The 2:50 looks an exciting race with Tiger Roll thrown into the mix as well


Haven't really been thinking about it now that the superior brother 'flat racing' is properly returning :greengrin however..

I don't see why THE SHUNTER can't continue his good form stepping out of handicaps at 7/2 in the first, and maybe BILLAWAY can get compensation for being edged-out up the hill at Cheltenham, 3/1 in the 4.05.

good luck.. I guess it's something to keep us busy until the golf comes on :aok:


Good horses all. I'm really looking forward to the duel between Monmiral and Adagio in the juvenile hurdle. That will be a cracker.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Okay ye radges, what's your nap for the first day of Aintree tomorrow?

Clan des Obeaux.

[Pretty Boy]

Like the look of Jason the Militant in the 3:25 and was impressed with Elle Est Belle at Cheltenham so will probably put them on a double. The 2:50 looks an exciting race with Tiger Roll thrown into the mix as well

I don't think Tiger Roll has a hope in hell in the Bowl. 6s is the current price, I'd say he should be closer to 16s. If Mister Fisher can jump properly I think he will be close, he went to pieces in the Ryanair but has some good form prior to that and might still have a bit improvement in him, I'm not sure you can say that about many of the others. Clan Des Obeaux is probably the one to beat though, he's been targeted at this since Kempton at Christmas.

In the other races I quite like The Shunter in the 1st, another open to improving. Monmiral in the Doom Bar. Jason The Militant in the Hurdle, I don't think De Bromhead has sent him to Aintree over Cheltenham for nothing. I quite like Mighty Stowaway at bigger odds in the Foxhubters. Probably the best amateur jockey of the lot on board and he looks the type who might enjoy the National fences.

[Pretty Boy]

A tale of 2 horses in the 1st 2 races for me.

The Shunter looked the winner from way out in the 1st but his jumping fell to pieces over the last 3. Monmiral on the other hand jumped like a stag and looks every inch a big contender for next season. Big horse and looks a chaser in time. 1/2 so far and a treble including Monmiral, Clan and Bilaway still intact.

[danhibees1875]

I like to pick my grand national winner based on them wearing green. I see the bookies have cottoned on to that though and all the green lads are pretty short odds. 9 of the first 12 shortest odds have an acceptable level of green on the jersey. :greengrin

[WeeRussell]

A tale of 2 horses in the 1st 2 races for me.

The Shunter looked the winner from way out in the 1st but his jumping fell to pieces over the last 3. Monmiral on the other hand jumped like a stag and looks every inch a big contender for next season. Big horse and looks a chaser in time. 1/2 so far and a treble including Monmiral, Clan and Bilaway still intact.

Absolutely. The Shunter still one to be on the right side of based on the way he travelled through the race. Done well to finish as close as he did given the display of jumping in final third of the race.

Good luck with the the treble.. especially as I’m on the same selections along with the jolly in the bumper 😀

[Mikey_1875]

What an absolute breeze for Clan

[Pretty Boy]

What an absolute breeze for Clan

Think the cheekpieces helped focus him. Never looked like stopping, focused on his jumping, picked up well and saw it out.

I'd send him to Punchestown for the Gold Cup there now.

Edit: Ruby Walsh just said the same. He looks tailor made for there if he travels OK.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Clan des Obeaux.

Get in there. 🍻