Should Drug Addicts Be Chemically Sterilized?

***judas*** · 28-01-2015 08:16 PM

Given the torture suffered by children born to addicts?

**steakbake** · 28-01-2015 08:42 PM

What if the drug addict has no children and doesn't plan to? Should they be sterilised just in case?

Drinkers, smokers, overeaters, people not cut out for parenting, the disabled, skint folks, people with genetic diseases - all might possibly pose a risk to kids safety in various ways, inadvertently or otherwise.

Mental idea - Pyongyangesque.

***Scouse Hibee*** · 28-01-2015 08:42 PM

Only if they sterilise the women in Africa as well and prevent the born to die cycle.

**steakbake** · 28-01-2015 08:43 PM

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Only if they sterilise the women in Africa as well and prevent the born to die cycle.

Whit?!?!?

***Scouse Hibee*** · 28-01-2015 08:45 PM

Well he started it!

**AK86** · 28-01-2015 08:46 PM

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Only if they sterilise the women in Africa as well and prevent the born to die cycle.

Boooooom!!!!!

your a brave guy!!!

**steakbake** · 28-01-2015 08:46 PM

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Well he started it!

Haha!

***Hibrandenburg*** · 28-01-2015 10:08 PM

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Given the torture suffered by children born to addicts?

You're on the windup surely?

***Colr*** · 28-01-2015 10:19 PM

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Given the torture suffered by children born to addicts?

Long term contraceptive implants amy be more humane and may be accepted willingly.

**Pete** · 29-01-2015 06:07 AM

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Given the torture suffered by children born to jambos?

Sterilise them all I say. Forcibly.

**Steve-O** · 29-01-2015 08:39 AM

Good grief

***CropleyWasGod*** · 29-01-2015 08:51 AM

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Given the torture suffered by children born to addicts?

You're including tobacco and alcohol addiction in there, I take it.....

***Scouse Hibee*** · 29-01-2015 09:17 AM

Aye it's the way forward, take the choice away from those not capable.

***Scouse Hibee*** · 29-01-2015 10:12 AM

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You're including tobacco and alcohol addiction in there, I take it.....

Has there ever been a case of a baby being born and suffering withdrawal frm either cigarettes or alcohol? I only ask because I know there have been plenty born suffering the withdrawal of drugs. Genuine question by the way, I agree that all can be damaging during pregnancy.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 29-01-2015 10:14 AM

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Has there ever been a case of a baby being born and suffering withdrawal frm either cigarettes or alcohol? I only ask because I know there have been plenty born suffering the withdrawal of drugs. Genuine question by the way, I agree that all can be damaging during pregnancy.

I have no idea.

I was trying to clarify what the OP meant.

***Scouse Hibee*** · 29-01-2015 10:15 AM

Okay thanks.

***Jack*** · 29-01-2015 10:41 AM

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Has there ever been a case of a baby being born and suffering withdrawal frm either cigarettes or alcohol? I only ask because I know there have been plenty born suffering the withdrawal of drugs. Genuine question by the way, I agree that all can be damaging during pregnancy.

Mothers do not share blood with the baby and IIRC babies don't breath air.

Babies pick up the nutrients they need from the placenta so it would depend on what nutrients these were. Good question.

Your post made me laugh. I immediately got a vision of the baby coming out and saying to the midwife "'Ave you gotta light?"

***Scouse Hibee*** · 29-01-2015 10:53 AM

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Mothers do not share blood with the baby and IIRC babies don't breath air.

Babies pick up the nutrients they need from the placenta so it would depend on what nutrients these were. Good question.

Your post made me laugh. I immediately got a vision of the baby coming out and saying to the midwife "'Ave you gotta light?"

Haha I was thinking that too as I typed it. :-)

**HUTCHYHIBBY** · 29-01-2015 11:22 AM

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You're on the windup surely?

Chucks a wee grenade in here every now and again.

**Beefster** · 29-01-2015 11:37 AM

I'm sure the thread question was also suggested by the Nazis at some point, alongside the disabled and more. Hitler will have been happy that the idea didn't die with him.

***Sergio sledge*** · 29-01-2015 12:11 PM

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Has there ever been a case of a baby being born and suffering withdrawal frm either cigarettes or alcohol? I only ask because I know there have been plenty born suffering the withdrawal of drugs. Genuine question by the way, I agree that all can be damaging during pregnancy.

Foetal Alcohol Syndrome is a known thing. There was a debate recently about whether it should be made illegal for pregnant women to drink during pregnancy, I'm not sure how that came about or turned out.

My parents used to do foster care and there were a large number of children who came to their care who were suffering developmentally because of their alcoholic or drug addict parent.

I don't advocate sterilisation however.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 29-01-2015 12:12 PM

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Foetal Alcohol Syndrome is a known thing. There was a debate recently about whether it should be made illegal for pregnant women to drink during pregnancy, I'm not sure how that came about or turned out.

My parents used to do foster care and there were a large number of children who came to their care who were suffering developmentally because of their alcoholic or drug addict parent.

I don't advocate sterilisation however.

You're right. A friend of mine is one of the foremost researchers in the UK.

***easty*** · 29-01-2015 12:12 PM

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Sterilise them all I say. Forcibly.

they should do it in the same clinic that they cut off thieves hands. It just makes sense.

**steakbake** · 29-01-2015 01:20 PM

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they should do it in the same clinic that they cut off thieves hands. It just makes sense.

then we can have protests against IS and worry about the radical Islamification of society.

***lord bunberry*** · 29-01-2015 01:35 PM

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they should do it in the same clinic that they cut off thieves hands. It just makes sense.

Just shoot them, the softly softly approach has failed.

***Sylar*** · 29-01-2015 02:11 PM

I "listened" to some chap the other day prattling on about stopping Indians/Chinese people from breeding altogether as they were single-handedly responsible for the rise in global population and depletion of resources/harming of the environment...

Unbelievably, people who were with him were in total agreement.

**HappyAsHellas** · 29-01-2015 02:57 PM

Interesting map showing population distribution in Asia and elsewhere:

Sorry for being slightly off topic.

**HUTCHYHIBBY** · 29-01-2015 02:59 PM

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I "listened" to some chap the other day prattling on about stopping Indians/Chinese people from breeding altogether as they were single-handedly responsible for the rise in global population and depletion of resources/harming of the environment...

Unbelievably, people who were with him were in total agreement.

I hope that never happens, what would happen to our takeaways? ;-)

**Pretty Boy** · 29-01-2015 04:23 PM

What if an addict takes steps to turn their life around, kicks their habit and stays clean?

If they have already been sterilised what happens in that situation? Is permanent infertility an acceptable punishment for poor lifestyle choices?