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    Quote Originally Posted by gogsy23 View Post
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    Given all the new housing in the area im not sure there is the demand for the new housing as such,that and the fact the prices have plummeted for land value and i very much doubt they would get permission to build anyway.

    Reckon realistically its worth circa £5-6 million. Not sure how that would work with the 10 million that is secured against the stadium.

    Its also in the blast zone which is related to the aforementioned neighbouring sites.
    Is that you Barry?


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    Yes unbelievable: 'Sorry I'm dropping out of the running for the Everton job because Hearts want me as assistant to the tactical genius that is Gary 'Pish on my face please' Locke.

    Can we compile a list of Bandersonballs?
    The Andybarryson_8 account has retweeted a few today,



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    The Andybarryson_8 account has retweeted a few today,
    Re-tweeted the mid march shares one myself. Should put a stop to some of his flippant replies to anyone that challenges him on facts.

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    Can you tell me where this blast zone of yours actually is?

    There is Murrayfield on one side, a recently built Sainsburys on another, housing on another and a brand new High school on the other.

    I would be really interested where the boundaries of the zone are.
    See my previous post in reply to gogsy23, which he/she must have missed. The exclusion zone exists, but is a generic zone based on current guidance. Specific site risk assessments commissioned by Hearts and the CEC have determined that in reality this zone can be reduced. If you can be bothered, pages 60-63 of the joint report that I linked in my previous post has all the details. CEC applied for permission to redevelop the Tyncastle High School site and it was granted on a similar basis. A school or football stadium is considered higher risk than housing as the density of people on the site is higher and current guidance says that any development that would lessen risk is likely to be considered in a favourable light.

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    Re-tweeted the mid march shares one myself. Should put a stop to some of his flippant replies to anyone that challenges him on facts.
    It was funny yesterday when he retweeted that bloke and it just ended up with Barry getting even more abuse. Barry telling everyone he doesn't lie is like Jimmy Saville saying he's a trustworthy babysitter.

    He flip flops between Hearts being "Self-sufficient" and that there's no real issues at tynecastle but then the next day tells us theres people desperate to buy the club but they don't know if its profitable? Surely they should just ask Barry and he'll explain it all to them?

    Hearts fans always believe the good news (takeover bids, fanciful player targets) but dismiss the bad news (financial trouble) as a load of cobblers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    It was funny yesterday when he retweeted that bloke and it just ended up with Barry getting even more abuse. Barry telling everyone he doesn't lie is like Jimmy Saville saying he's a trustworthy babysitter.

    He flip flops between Hearts being "Self-sufficient" and that there's no real issues at tynecastle but then the next day tells us theres people desperate to buy the club but they don't know if its profitable? Surely they should just ask Barry and he'll explain it all to them?

    Hearts fans always believe the good news (takeover bids, fanciful player targets) but dismiss the bad news (financial trouble) as a load of cobblers.
    The comments underneath the latest takeover a prime example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    There are some outstanding moments in that article: -

    We have not negotiated a price, we are not anywhere close to that yet. Probably not a lot is going to happen until the UBIG situation is resolved. We believe that once things get started we should be in a pretty good position. We think we know the full picture now. The administrators of both parties will have a say in this. There may also be other parties involved.”
    So who are the administrators of 'both parties'? One is Ukio and the other I assume is UBIG - which suggests they are a lot further down the road than 'expressing an intention'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Sorry, but what has happened between September 2004 and now that has reduced the value of the land to a quarter of it's previous price?

    Has your house dropped by 75%?

    The demand for new housing has never been greater, particularly affordable property. The population of Edinburgh, Scotland and the UK is increasing year on year.

    Blast zone? What blast zone and wasn't it there 8 years ago?
    the floating charge of the UKio Bankas claim is close to its valuation - around £8m. So anybody wanting to buy Hearts in the liquidation needs to pay another £2m on top of that for the club plus have sufficient funds to pay off HMRC and fill the funding gap for next season. In total they need about £14 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    It was funny yesterday when he retweeted that bloke and it just ended up with Barry getting even more abuse. Barry telling everyone he doesn't lie is like Jimmy Saville saying he's a trustworthy babysitter.

    He flip flops between Hearts being "Self-sufficient" and that there's no real issues at tynecastle but then the next day tells us theres people desperate to buy the club but they don't know if its profitable? Surely they should just ask Barry and he'll explain it all to them?

    Hearts fans always believe the good news (takeover bids, fanciful player targets) but dismiss the bad news (financial trouble) as a load of cobblers.
    Eh, 5-1,111 years.....erm.....it just is right!

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    So who are the administrators of 'both parties'? One is Ukio and the other I assume is UBIG - which suggests they are a lot further down the road than 'expressing an intention'...
    There will be an adminstrator appointed at UBIG at some point but this hasn't been done yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Alf R View Post
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    You probably read this at some point

    "HEARTS will begin next season in the Scottish Premier League – but with a 15-point deduction if majority shareholder UBIG is declared insolvent.



    That is the all-but-certain position faced by the Tynecastle club after an SPL board meeting earlier today ruled that UBIG had yet to suffer an “insolvency event”.

    The board left itself the option of reconsidering the situation in the unlikely situation of further evidence being unearthed about UBIG’s current standing in Lithuanian law. Crucially, however, if it were to have an effect on this season’s league table, that evidence would have to relate to events which occurred before the last SPL fixtures were played at the weekend. Under rules adopted last summer, Hearts would be docked a third of last season’s points total of 51 (the figure of 17.3 would be rounded up to 18) if they or a parent company were deemed to have become insolvent before the end of the season."

    from the Hootsmon .... http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...tion-1-2937144
    I prefer this article form #allisbarry himself

    http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...arts-1-2943559

    in particular.....

    The consortium is also speaking with potential administrators of UBIG after the company declared itself insolvent last week
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    There will be an adminstrator appointed at UBIG at some point but this hasn't been done yet.
    Ah - point taken, but earlier in the article it implies they've been in discussions with the people who are lined up to administer UBIG. If they have identified administrators/liquidators - it surely has to be a fully functioning insolvency event?

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    This is the bit I can't get my head round


    Fudevastos or whatever his name is has been saying that there is/will be a 2.5 million pound.

    Now is that on top of what ST money they will bring in or is that 2.5 million extra just to survive till then end of season?

    If this is indeed the case they cannot be self sufficient.

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    Ah - point taken, but earlier in the article it implies they've been in discussions with the people who are lined up to administer UBIG. If they have identified administrators/liquidators - it surely has to be a fully functioning insolvency event?
    I think you're forgetting who wrote the article.

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    They really live in dream land don't they and the Yam frothers just lap it up.

    http://www.teamtalk.com/hearts/87318...top-three-spot

    Fedotovas eyes top-three spot

    Hearts director Sergejus Fedotovas has targeted a top-three finish next season - despite the threat of a 15-point deduction.

    Majority shareholder UBIG last week indicated its insolvency and Hearts could face Scottish Premier League punishment if that declaration is ratified in the Lithuanian courts in the coming weeks.

    Hearts were already cutting back on wage costs for the second year running after finishing 10th in the SPL but Fedotovas expects major improvement under Gary Locke, who replaced John McGlynn as manager in March.

    Fedotovas told Hearts TV: "I think we really need to be targeting at least the top-three places.

    "Obviously this will be pretty much a new team so it will be important how Gary will be able to glue new faces into a good team and deliver results.

    "I believe it's not the first time it has happened in football. Reconstruction of a football team happens a lot everywhere and we are viewing it positively.

    "Having in mind the result we had last season, this is really painful to speak about it, but we are looking to radically improve this situation next season."

    Hearts have released Mehdi Taouil, Danny Grainger, Darren Barr, Gordon Smith and Fraser Mullen from their squad but Fedotovas has promised replacements.

    "We are clearing up in order for new people to come in who can hopefully improve the squad and make it better in terms of results from last season," he said.

    "The faces are identified and people are working to get the negotiations right and get the deals done.

    "We are very hopeful we will be able to start announcing people coming in and be ready for the next season."

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    "Hearts target top 3 finish" am targetting that when a get hame Katy Perry and Holly Willoughby are waitin tae nosh me oaf. No likely tho



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    Is that you Barry?
    Extremely harsh.....and no its not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergio sledge View Post
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    See my previous post in reply to gogsy23, which he/she must have missed. The exclusion zone exists, but is a generic zone based on current guidance. Specific site risk assessments commissioned by Hearts and the CEC have determined that in reality this zone can be reduced. If you can be bothered, pages 60-63 of the joint report that I linked in my previous post has all the details. CEC applied for permission to redevelop the Tyncastle High School site and it was granted on a similar basis. A school or football stadium is considered higher risk than housing as the density of people on the site is higher and current guidance says that any development that would lessen risk is likely to be considered in a favourable light.
    On my phone and missed the link sorry. Sounds about right sergio am sure theres a few other posts earlier in the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    If ever any more proof was needed that Barry just tweets and writes what he's told without questioning it. He's been lied to by Hearts which in turn has meant he's lied to his readers. He of course claimed yesterday he doesn't lie but I think this proves he does.
    Technically he doesn't lie .. he just forwards lies on.
    But you know it ain't all about wealth,
    as long as you make a note to .. EXPRESS YOURSELF!

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    Quality stuff.......


    Heart of Midlothian Football Club can today confirm that Mr Roman Romanov has been re-appointed as a Director.

    A poll was taken at the AGM on Thursday 23rd May to vote on Resolution 2: 'To re-appoint Mr Roman Romanov as a Director.'

    The results show that 99.91% voted For the resolution, while 0.09% voted Against.


    http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_3189685

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
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    Quality stuff.......


    Heart of Midlothian Football Club can today confirm that Mr Roman Romanov has been re-appointed as a Director.

    A poll was taken at the AGM on Thursday 23rd May to vote on Resolution 2: 'To re-appoint Mr Roman Romanov as a Director.'

    The results show that 99.91% voted For the resolution, while 0.09% voted Against.


    http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_3189685

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    Quote Originally Posted by YehButNo But View Post
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    They really live in dream land don't they and the Yam frothers just lap it up.

    http://www.teamtalk.com/hearts/87318...top-three-spot

    Fedotovas eyes top-three spot

    Hearts director Sergejus Fedotovas has targeted a top-three finish next season - despite the threat of a 15-point deduction.

    Majority shareholder UBIG last week indicated its insolvency and Hearts could face Scottish Premier League punishment if that declaration is ratified in the Lithuanian courts in the coming weeks.

    Hearts were already cutting back on wage costs for the second year running after finishing 10th in the SPL but Fedotovas expects major improvement under Gary Locke, who replaced John McGlynn as manager in March.

    Fedotovas told Hearts TV: "I think we really need to be targeting at least the top-three places.

    "Obviously this will be pretty much a new team so it will be important how Gary will be able to glue new faces into a good team and deliver results.

    "I believe it's not the first time it has happened in football. Reconstruction of a football team happens a lot everywhere and we are viewing it positively.

    "Having in mind the result we had last season, this is really painful to speak about it, but we are looking to radically improve this situation next season."

    Hearts have released Mehdi Taouil, Danny Grainger, Darren Barr, Gordon Smith and Fraser Mullen from their squad but Fedotovas has promised replacements.

    "We are clearing up in order for new people to come in who can hopefully improve the squad and make it better in terms of results from last season," he said.

    "The faces are identified and people are working to get the negotiations right and get the deals done.

    "We are very hopeful we will be able to start announcing people coming in and be ready for the next season."
    And this fits in with selling £1 million of 'talent'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
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    Quality stuff.......


    Heart of Midlothian Football Club can today confirm that Mr Roman Romanov has been re-appointed as a Director.

    A poll was taken at the AGM on Thursday 23rd May to vote on Resolution 2: 'To re-appoint Mr Roman Romanov as a Director.'

    The results show that 99.91% voted For the resolution, while 0.09% voted Against.




    http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_3189685

    Total and utter contempt for the very people they're pinning their survival on.

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    Total and utter contempt for the very people they're pinning their survival on.
    Quite rightly IMO

    In fact no they are beneath contempt.

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    Quality stuff.......


    Heart of Midlothian Football Club can today confirm that Mr Roman Romanov has been re-appointed as a Director.

    A poll was taken at the AGM on Thursday 23rd May to vote on Resolution 2: 'To re-appoint Mr Roman Romanov as a Director.'

    The results show that 99.91% voted For the resolution, while 0.09% voted Against.


    http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_3189685
    I smell a rat. Why would they bother doing this if they intend on selling up? Especially when it was voted down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    I smell a rat. Why would they bother doing this if they intend on selling up? Especially when it was voted down
    It wasn't voted down, though. The absentee shareholders voted him in, presumably by proxy.

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    Meanwhile, Hearts manager Gary Locke has held talks with former team-mate David Weir about becoming the club’s new assistant manager. Weir, a youth coach at Everton, is in contention to replace David Moyes at Goodison Park but would consider returning to Tynecastle under Locke.



    now, does that not read as though David Weir would prefer to be Locke's assistant than take over as Everton gaffer. I suppose Hearts are the big team so that might be right!

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    Perhaps they need to keep Roman in Tynecastle, so that all the dodgy paper work doesnt get read by anyone else!!

    *** why does the system change swine castle to ******** ??? ** when i first typed it in it overwrote that with **'s weird...
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    90% of the shareholders will be Lithuanian. The fans only hold 10% so there was only going to be one winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
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    Quality stuff.......
    Heart of Midlothian Football Club can today confirm that Mr Roman Romanov has been re-appointed as a Director.

    A poll was taken at the AGM on Thursday 23rd May to vote on Resolution 2: 'To re-appoint Mr Roman Romanov as a Director.'

    The results show that 99.91% voted For the resolution, while 0.09% voted Against.
    On brokeback
    Spot on. A GIRUY story if I have even seen one. It's almost is if we have the cheek to challenge a board recommendation. But then we will be the people who the board come running to for more short term funding. Joke.
    They could have just put a one liner out.
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