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[Libby Hibby]

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Where was this given as a reason?

Just my opinion but thats what the passport decision for Hibs first members effectively done. Then a few days later ST’s not being asked for passport info.

[B.H.F.C]

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Just my opinion but thats what the passport decision for Hibs first members effectively done. Then a few days later ST’s not being asked for passport info.

That is going to be done retrospectively. It’s been an error.

Details also being passed to Midtjylland as well, I think it’s down to them / the Danish authorities.

[CentreLine]

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What a shambles.

All to stop tickets being transferred between fellow Hibs fans.

More about Midtjiland complying with UEFA rules and controlling who gets access to the game.

[the_ginger_hibee]

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Just my opinion but thats what the passport decision for Hibs first members effectively done. Then a few days later ST’s not being asked for passport info.

If Hibs have a system, and priority rights that people are paying for, it should be followed & allowed to work. Hibs First or Season Tickets. It's unreasonable to expect Hibs to not put measures in place to ensure it works as intended.

Passport check & local collection is a well adopted system for European games, at club & international level too.

The ST holders not being asked for details is a Ticketmaster mess up. But the system, as it was intended, is fine & standard.

[gorgie greens]

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I think everyone in Hibs First would agree with this. It just what we’ve got just now, until a permanent solution is found. Difficulty going forward is clubs now sell direct to fans

I’m one of 3 Hibs First family members who can’t go to Denmark, so it allows 3 other season ticket holders to go.

I am Hibs first and no matter what system they use someone will have issues with it, happy as it is thanks

[Libby Hibby]

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If Hibs have a system, and priority rights that people are paying for, it should be followed & allowed to work. Hibs First or Season Tickets. It's unreasonable to expect Hibs to not put measures in place to ensure it works as intended.

Passport check & local collection is a well adopted system for European games, at club & international level too.

The ST holders not being asked for details is a Ticketmaster mess up. But the system, as it was intended, is fine & standard.

Is it a relatively new thing? Passport info was not required for Villa away.

[marinello59]

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I am Hibs first and no matter what system they use someone will have issues with it, happy as it is thanks

Everybody will be happy with the system that benefits them.
Hibs First is supposed to be monitored to ensure people on the scheme are actually buying away tickets and if they aren’t they are disqualified. It’s not being done. You don’t even have to attend games to go on the waiting list , just add your name and be willing to pay for priority. Away teams selling directly to Hibs fans is not an insurmountable problem in getting a loyalty scheme going, with the technology available now it could be done. Just takes willing from the club.

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Everybody will be happy with the system that benefits them.
Hibs First is supposed to be monitored to ensure people on the scheme are actually buying away tickets and if they aren’t they are disqualified. It’s not being done. You don’t even have to attend games to go on the waiting list , just add your name and be willing to pay for priority. Away teams selling directly to Hibs fans is not an insurmountable problem in getting a loyalty scheme going, with the technology available now it could be done. Just takes willing from the club.

You are correct and I know an few that you only see at Tynecastle and nowhere else ,maybe go back to when you had to purchase a ticket for every away game like it used to be.

[marinello59]

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You are correct and I know an few that you only see at Tynecastle and nowhere else ,maybe go back to when you had to purchase a ticket for every away game like it used to be.

I would add that the majority of people on Hibs first are using is as it is meant to be and would be in the first priority group for any loyalty scheme.

[gorgie greens]

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I would add that the majority of people on Hibs first are using is as it is meant to be and would be in the first priority group for any loyalty scheme.

They do ,the fact that around 300 are heading over to Denmark speaks volumes.
Personally I wouldn't miss an away European trip for anything but it is out of a few people's finances.

[Jones28]

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Is it a relatively new thing? Passport info was not required for Villa away.

Don’t need a passport for travel to Birmingham mate.

[Libby Hibby]

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Don’t need a passport for travel to Birmingham mate.

So it’s not a UEFA requirement as others have alluded to earlier?

[marinello59]

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They do ,the fact that around 300 are heading over to Denmark speaks volumes.
Personally I wouldn't miss an away European trip for anything but it is out of a few people's finances.

300 from 500 is remarkable, amazing commitment.

[the_ginger_hibee]

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So it’s not a UEFA requirement as others have alluded to earlier?

It's not a UEFA requirement but it has happened for a good amount of Hibs games in Europe over the last couple of years, not all. It happens for Scotland away games and for a lot of club teams playing in major UEFA competitions. Usually to prevent resale of tickets and people buying a ticket to maintain loyalty points, but not going, from what I've read elsewhere & from Tartan Army travellers. I think local authorities and clubs can insist on it too.

[SteveHFC]

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It's not a UEFA requirement but it has happened for a good amount of Hibs games in Europe over the last couple of years, not all. It happens for Scotland away games and for a lot of club teams playing in major UEFA competitions. Usually to prevent resale of tickets and people buying a ticket to maintain loyalty points, but not going, from what I've read elsewhere & from Tartan Army travellers. I think local authorities and clubs can insist on it too.

Sure I had to put my passport number for the tickets to the Euro’s last year when tickets went on sale to SSC members.

[B.H.F.C]

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It's not a UEFA requirement but it has happened for a good amount of Hibs games in Europe over the last couple of years, not all. It happens for Scotland away games and for a lot of club teams playing in major UEFA competitions. Usually to prevent resale of tickets and people buying a ticket to maintain loyalty points, but not going, from what I've read elsewhere & from Tartan Army travellers. I think local authorities and clubs can insist on it too.

The fact Hibs have stated that the information is being passed to Midtjylland suggests it’s not all a Hibs thing.

My thinking is that Hibs have facilitated the sales so they can be allocated to the priority groups but Midtjylland are responsible for, or have conditions around, the distribution.

[B.H.F.C]

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Sure I had to put my passport number for the tickets to the Euro’s last year when tickets went on sale to SSC members.

I’m not in SSC but I did end up with tickets and I’m sure I had to put my passport details in on the app.

[LaMotta]

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It's not a UEFA requirement but it has happened for a good amount of Hibs games in Europe over the last couple of years, not all. It happens for Scotland away games and for a lot of club teams playing in major UEFA competitions. Usually to prevent resale of tickets and people buying a ticket to maintain loyalty points, but not going, from what I've read elsewhere & from Tartan Army travellers. I think local authorities and clubs can insist on it too.

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The fact Hibs have stated that the information is being passed to Midtjylland suggests it’s not all a Hibs thing.

My thinking is that Hibs have facilitated the sales so they can be allocated to the priority groups but Midtjylland are responsible for, or have conditions around, the distribution.

I'd like to know if we just need ID for the pick up or will it also be needed for entry into the ground.

I'd like to give my ticket to my mate travelling with us, a season ticket holder who missed out today. I'll obviously be able to pick the ticket up, but would I then be able to give it to him so he can use at the ground instead of me. Looks like there was checks of some sort on Rangers fans going into the ground back in 2019 - https://x.com/fcmidtjylland/status/1...ipes-strips%2F

[Speedy]

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300 from 500 is remarkable, amazing commitment.

I actually thought it was a pretty low take up from Hibs first tbh.

No criticism but I expected more based on following Scotland games and the take up rates of those at the top of the ladder.

[JasonC1875]

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Sure I had to put my passport number for the tickets to the Euro’s last year when tickets went on sale to SSC members.

It’s common in a lot of countries, had to do it for Poland, Greece and Cyprus away tickets amongst others

[JasonC1875]

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I actually thought it was a pretty low take up from Hibs first tbh.

No criticism but I expected more based on following Scotland games and the take up rates of those at the top of the ladder.

I’m also surprised but personally speaking two of our Hibs First “group” are in Tenerife for this game.

[marinello59]

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I actually thought it was a pretty low take up from Hibs first tbh.

No criticism but I expected more based on following Scotland games and the take up rates of those at the top of the ladder.

It’s one of the more expensive trips and it’s smack bang in the middle of peak family holiday season. I’m pretty impressed so many of them have managed to go.

[LewysGot2]

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I’m also surprised but personally speaking two of our Hibs First “group” are in Tenerife for this game.

Some ASTs I know are also simply away on family holidays. They’ll be going to the next round

[CentreLine]

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So it’s not a UEFA requirement as others have alluded to earlier?

If it’s about safety and controls then it’s not about passports per se. It’s about clubs taking seriously that they may be being held accountable if there is trouble or away fans get in to the home end for example. By making people identify themselves on receipt of tickets the club have a fair chance ( nearly said fighting chance) of controlling entry and identifying possible problems. I imaging they wouldn’t want people with banning orders for example. Using a passport identification is pretty thorough in that respect.


I don’t see the issue here. Unless they are Danish, every person going as a Hibs supporter must have a passport to travel. What’s the problem with using it as ID for the ticket?

[DH1875]

Are you supposed to carry photo ID with you at all times in Denmark like you do in most of Europe? We don't have ID cards in the UK which is why it's your passport that your supposed to have.
Nothing to do with Hibs or UEFA if it's Danish law.

[Libby Hibby]

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If it’s about safety and controls then it’s not about passports per se. It’s about clubs taking seriously that they may be being held accountable if there is trouble or away fans get in to the home end for example. By making people identify themselves on receipt of tickets the club have a fair chance ( nearly said fighting chance) of controlling entry and identifying possible problems. I imaging they wouldn’t want people with banning orders for example. Using a passport identification is pretty thorough in that respect.


I don’t see the issue here. Unless they are Danish, every person going as a Hibs supporter must have a passport to travel. What’s the problem with using it as ID for the ticket?

I think it was you that said that they were complying with UEFA rules but are you now saying it’s not an enforceable rule, just a nice to have that clubs can use and not use as they wish.

[CapitalGreen]

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I'd like to know if we just need ID for the pick up or will it also be needed for entry into the ground.

I'd like to give my ticket to my mate travelling with us, a season ticket holder who missed out today. I'll obviously be able to pick the ticket up, but would I then be able to give it to him so he can use at the ground instead of me. Looks like there was checks of some sort on Rangers fans going into the ground back in 2019 - https://x.com/fcmidtjylland/status/1...ipes-strips%2F

Contact the ticket office and ask them to reassign the ticket from you to your season ticket holding mate.

[CentreForward]

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I think it was around a thousand but there were more travel options for that one.

Thanks.

[CentreLine]

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I think it was you that said that they were complying with UEFA rules but are you now saying it’s not an enforceable rule, just a nice to have that clubs can use and not use as they wish.

Yes I absolutely did. It was a clear comment they are trying to comply with UEFA rules. The rules require that the clubs ensure fan safety and behaviours. Using passport information seems one sensible way to try to achieve that. You are reading too deeply in to my comment. I did not say it was in UEFA rules that they use passports but it does seem a good practical method of checking the identity of each attendee and I don’t get why there should be a debate about it. I want a ticket, I buy a ticket, I have to use my passport to travel there, therefore I must have one. Why not use it?

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I assume the problem with the passport rule is that it makes all tickets non transferable?

Seems a bit daft if people are saying “how can they expect us to have passports?”

Er cos you kinda have to have one to get there.


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