(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[babahibs]

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One promise I hope he keeps is to release all the JFK files, he shat it last time

Nobody noticed, he had his nappy on.

[lapsedhibee]

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Has Kamala been seen yet?

Hasn't Trump more or less vowed to exact revenge on his political opponents? Not surprising if she feels like staying out of the firing line.

[grunt]

Thought this was an interesting insight from David A Green

[Bristolhibby]

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Thought this was an interesting insight from David A Green

Thing is, the lying was what killed Johnson in the UK.

His popularity tanked. The Tories culled him in an effort not to be wiped out.

I’m not sure we are there yet, (but we are heading that way).

Post truth, control the narrative. Move on from lies, deny everything admit nothing.

I guess it’s the type of lie. The parties at Downing Street while the Queen buried her husband sat alone really got to the public. Especially when you factor that this happened all over the country. I didn’t see my Mum & Dad for months on end. The hypocrisy holed him below the waterline.

Trump never really cared about COVID so how can it hurt him?

Same with Black lives, Trans rights, etc. He doesn’t care, so is impenetrable to its blowback. Remember when he battered that crowd then posed outside a church with a Bible in his hand. Pure theatre which appealed to his base.

Whereas the Sarah Everad protests and cops arresting peaceful woman were terrible optics for the Tories.

Like I said, we aren’t quite there yet.

J

[Northernhibee]

This is about spot on.

[Ozyhibby]

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Thing is, the lying was what killed Johnson in the UK.

His popularity tanked. The Tories culled him in an effort not to be wiped out.

I’m not sure we are there yet, (but we are heading that way).

Post truth, control the narrative. Move on from lies, deny everything admit nothing.

I guess it’s the type of lie. The parties at Downing Street while the Queen buried her husband sat alone really got to the public. Especially when you factor that this happened all over the country. I didn’t see my Mum & Dad for months on end. The hypocrisy holed him below the waterline.

Trump never really cared about COVID so how can it hurt him?

Same with Black lives, Trans rights, etc. He doesn’t care, so is impenetrable to its blowback. Remember when he battered that crowd then posed outside a church with a Bible in his hand. Pure theatre which appealed to his base.

Whereas the Sarah Everad protests and cops arresting peaceful woman were terrible optics for the Tories.

Like I said, we aren’t quite there yet.

J

Imagine the battering the Gaza protesters are going to get after January.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/postcardstopa/status/1...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

The scale of Harris defeat here.
Dems need a lot of soul searching after this.


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[Mon Dieu4]

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The scale of Harris defeat here.
Dems need a lot of soul searching after this.


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Easiest way to look at it is they are the Labour Party in Scotland over the last 15 years, took everyone for granted, thought certain demographics would automatically vote for them and forgot the working class

They have no one to blame but themselves and need a total reset if they are clever, they probably won't though

[Berwickhibby]

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I'm nothing of the kind, I'm saying sexism and racism will have been the reason why some voted against Harris. You'd be mad to believe otherwise. I guess recognising misogyny and racism might not be a strong point amongst London's finest.

You guessed wrong …but again a snide dig…your ignorance knows no bounds

[Stairway 2 7]

The main reason the Dems got beat, they were the incumbents. People hate inflation. Post covid inflation made everyone's life worse whilst the incumbents were in power, no wonder people wanted change. Every incumbent party facing an election in a democratic country lost vote share this year, that's the first time since post WW2.

https://archive.is/5yM7S

Democrats join 2024’s graveyard of incumbents
Governments across the world are struggling in this period of economic and geopolitical turmoil

John Burn-Murdoch

[Smartie]

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The main reason the Dems got beat, they were the incumbents. People hate inflation. Post covid inflation made everyone's life worse whilst the incumbents were in power, no wonder people wanted change. Every incumbent party facing an election in a democratic country lost vote share this year, that's the first time since post WW2.

https://archive.is/5yM7S

Democrats join 2024’s graveyard of incumbents
Governments across the world are struggling in this period of economic and geopolitical turmoil

John Burn-Murdoch

I couldn't agree more with this.

Those seeking to "learn lessons" would do well to take heed.

[Ozyhibby]

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The main reason the Dems got beat, they were the incumbents. People hate inflation. Post covid inflation made everyone's life worse whilst the incumbents were in power, no wonder people wanted change. Every incumbent party facing an election in a democratic country lost vote share this year, that's the first time since post WW2.

https://archive.is/5yM7S

Democrats join 2024’s graveyard of incumbents
Governments across the world are struggling in this period of economic and geopolitical turmoil

John Burn-Murdoch

Don’t think immigration can be separated here though. Every one of those countries where incumbents got beat had record high immigration as well. The two together are a toxic mix. Especially if it’s perceived the govt has lost control or doesn’t want to control it.


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[Paul1642]

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The main reason the Dems got beat, they were the incumbents. People hate inflation. Post covid inflation made everyone's life worse whilst the incumbents were in power, no wonder people wanted change. Every incumbent party facing an election in a democratic country lost vote share this year, that's the first time since post WW2.

https://archive.is/5yM7S

Democrats join 2024’s graveyard of incumbents
Governments across the world are struggling in this period of economic and geopolitical turmoil

John Burn-Murdoch

If the dems listen to this and decide they only lost because they were the incumbent, and decide to continue on the same path, they can look forward to losing the next election too. They lost because they showed complete contempt to over half the electorate.

[Stairway 2 7]

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If the dems listen to this and decide they only lost because they were the incumbent, and decide to continue on the same path, they can look forward to losing the next election too. They lost because they showed complete contempt to over half the electorate.

Disagree. The main factor was inflation. The economy is always head and shoulders above other factors and miles away from culture wars and foreign policy ect. Obviously other factors contributed but it was the main one

A correction to when I said this was the biggest swing against incumbents since the war it's actually the biggest since record's began in 1905. Obviously that isn't a coincidence as parties lost on many different policies. The right actually lost more than the left in the dozens of nations studied including the uk with the 20 point swing. Things will be tough for a few years to come so the newcomers might not seem like change.

Germany and Canada next for the incumbent losses

[Jim44]

The next few years with ‘loose cannon’ is a major danger to world peace and his controversial appointments will be well outside the box. I give you Elon Musk, who will feather his own nest at every opportunity and, very worryingly, RF Kennedy Jnr. , who “ will be let loose on health, medicine and food, “. I believe he previously said he would let Kennedy have some fun!!!!. Imminent doctors and health experts say that this black sheep of the Kennedy dynasty is a threat to public health. Trump is a mentally deranged psychopath.

[Jim44]

Bit on the news tonight of a meeting of world leaders in Budapest. That’s ironic as Viktor Orban is an arse licker of Trump and Putin.

[Callum_62]

I'm gonna take the OzyHibby positivity pills and think it won't be as bad as we all fear

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[cabbageandribs1875]

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I'm gonna take the OzyHibby positivity pills and think it won't be as bad as we all fear

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You lost me at ‘Ozyhibby positivity’ ……. I think he ran a good race but the party’s over. The next four years will be bat **** crazy.

[Ozyhibby]

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I'm gonna take the OzyHibby positivity pills and think it won't be as bad as we all fear

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It’s a wait and see I guess. I’m hoping that internationally he is constrained and all the real mad stuff happens domestically for the people who voted him in. That’s as positive as I can manage just now but that’s progress since yesterday.


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[Hibrandenburg]

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You guessed wrong …but again a snide dig…your ignorance knows no bounds

One man's wee dig is another man's attempt at humour. I think the Met's failures on racism and misogyny are pretty well documented.

[Keith_M]

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Don't tell me we're gonna be the next to be overrun by immigrants

[Berwickhibby]

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One man's wee dig is another man's attempt at humour. I think the Met's failures on racism and misogyny are pretty well documented.

Well your attempt at humour, I did not appreciate and it’s not the first time have thrown snidey digs when I post stuff. I find it pathetic to be honest.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Don't tell me we're gonna be the next to be overrun by immigrants

y'all ready for an invasion of Dems/RepublicansagainstTrump/etc etc

[Hibrandenburg]

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Well your attempt at humour, I did not appreciate and it’s not the first time have thrown snidey digs when I post stuff. I find it pathetic to be honest.

You're partial to a dig or joke yourself, let him without sin and awe that.

[Smartie]

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Bit on the news tonight of a meeting of world leaders in Budapest. That’s ironic as Viktor Orban is an arse licker of Trump and Putin.

The short clip I saw had Starmer looking really quite laughy and jokey with Orban.

I guess that in between all the serious business, these folk will probably have small talk and "get on" to an extent on a personal level.

Just looked a bit weird though, given the Putin / Trump / Farage / Orban narrative.

[AgentDaleCooper]

the Vince McMahon documentary on Netflix gives a really fascinating insight into where Trump learned his trade in campaigning - just keep the emotions at boiling point and blur the boundaries between fact and 'hyperbole' and you can pretty much do and say anything you want, if you're enough of a b******.

I think one of the factors at play has been capitalism's blindspot - the idea that people are, in the main, rational. It's bizarre that economists have been running models based on such an assumption, since marketing and advertising generally seeks to exploit peoples' irrationality.

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/ukdefjournal/status/18...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

A silver lining. Europe needs to grow up up its own defence.


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[overdrive]

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the Vince McMahon documentary on Netflix gives a really fascinating insight into where Trump learned his trade in campaigning - just keep the emotions at boiling point and blur the boundaries between fact and 'hyperbole' and you can pretty much do and say anything you want, if you're enough of a b******.

I think one of the factors at play has been capitalism's blindspot - the idea that people are, in the main, rational. It's bizarre that economists have been running models based on such an assumption, since marketing and advertising generally seeks to exploit peoples' irrationality.

Yep and guess who is in charge of his transition team. Linda McMahon.

[AgentDaleCooper]

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Yep and guess who is in charge of his transition team. Linda McMahon.

Joysus.