Hamas attack on Israel

[JimBHibees]

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reportedly 500 killed in israeli airstrike on a hospital .... Isreal "looking into it"...This is just sickening

All western leaders fully backing Israel should be taken to the site of that.

[cameronw-hfc]

El Ghazi, ex Villa and Everton, released by Mainz after posting a pro Palestine insta story.

[tamig]

IDF claiming the hospital blast was caused by a failed Hamas rocket launch.

[Callum_62]

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IDF claiming the hospital blast was caused by a failed Hamas rocket launch.

Failed Hamas rocket..... leftover Hamas bobby trap

I smell......well.

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[Keith_M]

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El Ghazi, ex Villa and Everton, released by Mainz after posting a pro Palestine insta story.

This is mentioned in a number of newspapers but none of them have said what he posted.

It would be interesting to know what that was before deciding if his club's decision was acceptable, or an over-reaction.

[BigKev]

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Failed Hamas rocket..... leftover Hamas bobby trap

I smell......well.

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Even if it turns out the attack is a failed rocket launch by Palestine Jihad then the job is done. Hamas calling it out as an Israeli air strike is what all Islamic countries will believe.

[Stairway 2 7]

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This is mentioned in a number of newspapers but none of them have said what he posted.

It would be interesting to know what that was before deciding if his club's decision was acceptable, or an over-reaction.

I think they are claiming he posted from the river to the sea Palestine will be free, which basically means no Isreal

[Stairway 2 7]

Humza comes out to condem isreal for the war crime.

Isreal say they have the evidence it was a failed rocket attack on Isreal by Hamas.

Most osint accounts on twitter who have no skin in the game are saying it looks like a failed rocket. Lots of videos but I'll wait until they analyse more before I'd say. Horrible tragedy regardless and it'll be one of many regardless

[Paul1642]

Horrible human tragedy regardless of who is to blame :(

Whoever is proven to be responsible has committed a horrendous atrocity as well as a colossal political own goal.

[Paul1642]

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Humza comes out to condem isreal for the war crime.

Isreal say they have the evidence it was a failed rocket attack on Isreal by Hamas.

Most osint accounts on twitter who have no skin in the game are saying it looks like a failed rocket. Lots of videos but I'll wait until they analyse more before I'd say. Horrible tragedy regardless and it'll be one of many regardless

The OSNIT page that I have been following now seems pretty certain that it’s been a Hamas missile that caused the hospital deaths (they have been pretty spot on with all reporting so far). It is also now reporting 2 minutes ago that the IDF northern command is braced for an imminent attack from Southern Lebanon.

As if it was even possible this war looks like potentially taking a turn for the worse tonight and potentially based on completely false information (although Hezbollah have probably been waiting for their moment to join since the start). Horrendous and as always it’s the civilians who will suffer worst on all sides :(

[MKHIBEE]

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Humza comes out to condem isreal for the war crime.

Isreal say they have the evidence it was a failed rocket attack on Isreal by Hamas.

Most osint accounts on twitter who have no skin in the game are saying it looks like a failed rocket. Lots of videos but I'll wait until they analyse more before I'd say. Horrible tragedy regardless and it'll be one of many regardless

That will be like the evidence they had that Hamas beheaded children.

Isreal claim it was an Islamic Jihad group, not Hamas

[BigKev]

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That will be like the evidence they had that Hamas beheaded children.

Isreal claim it was an Islamic Jihad group, not Hamas

They’ve now released the intercepted audio.

[Stairway 2 7]

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That will be like the evidence they had that Hamas beheaded children.

Isreal claim it was an Islamic Jihad group, not Hamas

Both sides will blame the other the best bet is to ignore them and listen to independent investigators.

I think Corbyn and Yousaf were daft to blame Israel. Although it could be Israel it would be better to say its a tragedy and were waiting for the evidence.

Israel have plenty war crimes on their hands if you blame them for something that wasn't them it gives them an excuse for the atrocities they cause.

Biden has just said the evidence points to Hamas misfire.

[Stairway 2 7]

I'd say every osint accounts are analysing it was a Hamas misfire

Nathan Russer of bellingcat has been helping shine a light on isreali war crimes well before this war. He says he thinks it was a misfire and dubious of 500 dead from the limited damage. Probably not best to believe what terrorists say as gospel
https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1714535497958334678

Here's a run down of last night and a video of the misfire
https://twitter.com/talhagin/status/1714416463136559592

Hospital building isn't badly damaged this morning just some glass and also no crater
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...25590873575600


I agree with this there will be no backtracking people are too divided, the damage is done and escalation will happen.

OSINTtechnical
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Honestly a bunch of people are going to have to come to terms with the fact that they fell victim to incredibly weak propaganda that was unintentionally refuted by the source in a convincing manner less than 12 hours later

Oh who am I kidding there’s absolutely no way they will

[MKHIBEE]

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They’ve now released the intercepted audio.

I’m sure that could easily be set up to look however they want it to look.

[MKHIBEE]

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I'd say every osint accounts are analysing it was a Hamas misfire

Nathan Russer of bellingcat has been helping shine a light on isreali war crimes well before this war. He says he thinks it was a misfire and dubious of 500 dead from the limited damage. Probably not best to believe what terrorists say as gospel
https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1714535497958334678

Here's a run down of last night and a video of the misfire
https://twitter.com/talhagin/status/1714416463136559592

Hospital building isn't badly damaged this morning just some glass and also no crater
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...25590873575600


I agree with this there will be no backtracking people are too divided, the damage is done and escalation will happen.

OSINTtechnical
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Honestly a bunch of people are going to have to come to terms with the fact that they fell victim to incredibly weak propaganda that was unintentionally refuted by the source in a convincing manner less than 12 hours later

Oh who am I kidding there’s absolutely no way they will

Or anything the Isreali state says. They have been murdering men, women and children for years whilst terrorising the Palestinian community and lying about it.

[MKHIBEE]

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Both sides will blame the other the best bet is to ignore them and listen to independent investigators.

I think Corbyn and Yousaf were daft to blame Israel. Although it could be Israel it would be better to say its a tragedy and were waiting for the evidence.

Israel have plenty war crimes on their hands if you blame them for something that wasn't them it gives them an excuse for the atrocities they cause.

Biden has just said the evidence points to Hamas misfire.

Which “independent” investigators do you recommend?

[Stairway 2 7]

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Which “independent” investigators do you recommend?

I like bellingcat. They have uncovered or disproved lots of war crimes, especially US, UK, Isreali and Russian.

They done amazing work when Isreal murdered journalists Shireen Abu Akleh and tried to cover it up. They basically do online detective work, use satellite imagery, phone videos and geolocation ect.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2022/05/14/unravelling-the-killing-of-shireen-abu-akleh/

I don't believe most of what governments say whether that is Russia, Ukraine, Isreal or UK. Fortunately due to the above info like satellite imagery being open access, it's harder for governments to lie, although they still will even if the evidence is clear

[Stairway 2 7]

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Or anything the Isreali state says. They have been murdering men, women and children for years whilst terrorising the Palestinian community and lying about it.

Yep and two of the 3 I posted above have proven dozens of Isreali war crimes in the face of Isreali pressure and disinformation

[Paul1642]

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Yep and two of the 3 I posted above have proven dozens of Isreali war crimes in the face of Isreali pressure and disinformation

Some people don’t want to hear independent analysis. They want the side that fits their narrative.

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/peston/status/17146021...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Flynn calls for cease fire.


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[MKHIBEE]

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I like bellingcat. They have uncovered or disproved lots of war crimes, especially US, UK, Isreali and Russian.

They done amazing work when Isreal murdered journalists Shireen Abu Akleh and tried to cover it up. They basically do online detective work, use satellite imagery, phone videos and geolocation ect.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena...een-abu-akleh/

I don't believe most of what governments say whether that is Russia, Ukraine, Isreal or UK. Fortunately due to the above info like satellite imagery being open access, it's harder for governments to lie, although they still will even if the evidence is clear

What is disturbing, as shown by Bellingcat, is the amount of absolute nonsense that is posted on X, formerly twitter. I no longer use X, it is a cesspit.

[Stairway 2 7]

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What is disturbing, as shown by Bellingcat, is the amount of absolute nonsense that is posted on X, formerly twitter. I no longer use X, it is a cesspit.

It's got worse. But it's easy to just follow legitimate journalists and organisations. If a random shares on twitter you have to automatically check the source yourself.

The problem is there is no alternative site. The big media companies basically just share what they get from twitter. It was too important a site to give to Musk.

[Mon Dieu4]

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What is disturbing, as shown by Bellingcat, is the amount of absolute nonsense that is posted on X, formerly twitter. I no longer use X, it is a cesspit.

I keep seeing folk say stuff like that, from my experience it's no different now to how it's ever been

[Stairway 2 7]

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https://x.com/peston/status/17146021...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Flynn calls for cease fire.


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He was another one who jumped in a bit and just took a terrorist organisation at its word saying "It is very difficult to understand why a hospital was targeted". Although I agree with the humanitarian ceasefire

Humza doubled down today saying we need to prove it but then says but then says "it was a complete breach of international law the targeting of a hospital." He says it need condemned in the fullest, it does even if its Hamas. He's obviously stressed and too close to the situation, but we don't need Hamas words parroted to the nation.
https://twitter.com/BBCBreakfast/status/1714538375296815122

Although even American Osint accounts are saying the BBC was hopeless in jumping in.
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1714472065208602639


It's clearly a tragedy either way. I fear it will embolden isreal to deny the rest of the war crimes they will no doubt commit in the next year

[Ozyhibby]

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He was another one who jumped in a bit and just took a terrorist organisation at its word saying "It is very difficult to understand why a hospital was targeted". Although I agree with the humanitarian ceasefire

Humza doubled down today saying we need to prove it but then says but then says "it was a complete breach of international law the targeting of a hospital." He says it need condemned in the fullest, it does even if its Hamas. He's obviously stressed and too close to the situation, but we don't need Hamas words parroted to the nation.
https://twitter.com/BBCBreakfast/sta...38375296815122

Although even American Osint accounts are saying the BBC was hopeless in jumping in.
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...72065208602639


It's clearly a tragedy either way. I fear it will embolden isreal to deny the rest of the war crimes they will no doubt commit in the next year

You wonder what Isreal think it will achieve? What is their end game?


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[Kato]

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You wonder what Isreal think it will achieve? What is their end game?


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Fulfill perceived Biblical prophecy and be the fulcrum of the Apocalypse?

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[MKHIBEE]

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You wonder what Isreal think it will achieve? What is their end game?


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The 3 men who make up their war cabinet would happily see the destruction of all things Palestinian.

[Stairway 2 7]

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You wonder what Isreal think it will achieve? What is their end game?


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How do you stop an ideology, how did America do crushing the taliban. The difference is America half pretended it wanted to set up a fair state once they left. Isreal barely acknowledges Palestinians right to exist.

They aren't going to achieve anything, but their voters want retribution. I don't understand what Hamas were thinking although escalation probably suits

[Keith_M]

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I think they are claiming he posted from the river to the sea Palestine will be free, which basically means no Isreal

OK, that's unfortunate.