Hamas attack on Israel

[Ozyhibby]

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Why Gaza is what it is.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/skynews/status/1713561...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Water getting turned back on.


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[Pretty Boy]

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https://x.com/skynews/status/1713561...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Water getting turned back on.


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The fact it's mentioned that Joe Biden was involved in the decision is hopefully a hint that the US has intimated to Israel they can't just do what they want with complete impunity.

Turning the water back on is a small step but a good one even if it is mental we are almost praising a country for allowing the most basic of human rights.

[Ozyhibby]

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The fact it's mentioned that Joe Biden was involved in the decision is hopefully a hint that the US has intimated to Israel they can't just do what they want with complete impunity.

Turning the water back on is a small step but a good one even if it is mental we are almost praising a country for allowing the most basic of human rights.

It’s only been turned back on in the south apparently to encourage them to all move south.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/charlie533080/status/1...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Thread worth a read.


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[Ozyhibby]

More than a 1000 Palestinian children killed so far.


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[DaveF]

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More than a 1000 Palestinian children killed so far.


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So, so depressingly predictable. And we wil stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel while they kill many more and forcibly displace hundreds of thousands more.

[MKHIBEE]

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More than a 1000 Palestinian children killed so far.


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So much for not targeting innocents. Shameful, predictable, avoidable and supported by many in the west. As has been the case for many years, under the guise of “ defending ourselves”.

[BigKev]

Give @sentdefender a follow on Twitter. Some horrific open source videos on there from last weekend.

There’s no winners in this war of attrition. Hamas don’t give a flying one about civilians on either side, Israel will simply claim civilian deaths are a consequence of war.

Joe Biden due to visit various Middle Eastern states, there needs to be a clear plan drawn up to allow both sides to live in peace but I’m not convinced Biden has the power to make it happen. Always comes across as being a bit soft when it comes to negotiations. The release of Viktor Bout being an example.

[superfurryhibby]

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To allow us to reply promptly to your concerns, and to ensure we use our licence fee resources as efficiently as possible, we are sending this response to everyone. We are sorry not to reply individually, but we hope this will address the points you have raised.

We understand that this is an extremely worrying time for people not only in the region, but also in the UK and around the world, and we have reflected this in our coverage.

BBC News has provided our global audiences with coverage and first-hand testimony of the atrocities committed by Hamas, and the suffering in Gaza. We have made clear the devastating human cost to civilians living in Israel and Gaza, and the unprecedented nature of what has happened. The huge loss of civilian life on both sides makes this a shocking and difficult story to cover.

Our correspondents have been to the scenes of attacks, massacres and potential war crimes; and reported on the harrowing scenes they have witnessed.

We have reported on the atrocities committed by Hamas in their assault on Israel and have heard many accounts from survivors of these attacks and family members of the victims, reflecting the trauma they are suffering.

On the ground in Gaza our teams have reported on the rising death toll from Israeli air strikes and the unfolding humanitarian crisis, as rockets destroy buildings, power and water supplies are cut and thousands try to move out of the way of danger.

We have reflected statements from the UN and NGOs. We have interviewed representatives of the Israeli government, Hamas and UK government ministers and asked whether international law is being adhered to.

BBC News has also examined the history and complexities of the Israel-Palestinian conflict and analysed the potential consequences of the war for the wider region. Our reporting has included opinions from all sides, the region and the wider world.

We have previously covered the escalation in tensions between Israel and the Palestinians, and the reasons for it.

Careful consideration has been given to all aspects of our coverage to ensure that we report on developments accurately and with due impartiality in line with the BBC Editorial Guidelines, which are publicly available.

The BBC, along with many other UK and global news organisations, does use the word “terrorist”, but attributes it. We have made clear to our audiences that Hamas is proscribed as a terrorist organisation by the UK and other governments. The use of attribution is required by our Editorial Guidelines:

https://www.bbc.com/editorialguidelines/guidelines

We know that our audiences turn to us for clarity and to help them separate fact from fake. We know that trust is earned and we do not take that for granted.

We welcome your feedback as we strive to safeguard our reputation as the world’s most trusted news organisation.  

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[Ozyhibby]

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Dear Audience Member

To allow us to reply promptly to your concerns, and to ensure we use our licence fee resources as efficiently as possible, we are sending this response to everyone. We are sorry not to reply individually, but we hope this will address the points you have raised.

We understand that this is an extremely worrying time for people not only in the region, but also in the UK and around the world, and we have reflected this in our coverage.

BBC News has provided our global audiences with coverage and first-hand testimony of the atrocities committed by Hamas, and the suffering in Gaza. We have made clear the devastating human cost to civilians living in Israel and Gaza, and the unprecedented nature of what has happened. The huge loss of civilian life on both sides makes this a shocking and difficult story to cover.

Our correspondents have been to the scenes of attacks, massacres and potential war crimes; and reported on the harrowing scenes they have witnessed.

We have reported on the atrocities committed by Hamas in their assault on Israel and have heard many accounts from survivors of these attacks and family members of the victims, reflecting the trauma they are suffering.

On the ground in Gaza our teams have reported on the rising death toll from Israeli air strikes and the unfolding humanitarian crisis, as rockets destroy buildings, power and water supplies are cut and thousands try to move out of the way of danger.

We have reflected statements from the UN and NGOs. We have interviewed representatives of the Israeli government, Hamas and UK government ministers and asked whether international law is being adhered to.

BBC News has also examined the history and complexities of the Israel-Palestinian conflict and analysed the potential consequences of the war for the wider region. Our reporting has included opinions from all sides, the region and the wider world.

We have previously covered the escalation in tensions between Israel and the Palestinians, and the reasons for it.

Careful consideration has been given to all aspects of our coverage to ensure that we report on developments accurately and with due impartiality in line with the BBC Editorial Guidelines, which are publicly available.

The BBC, along with many other UK and global news organisations, does use the word “terrorist”, but attributes it. We have made clear to our audiences that Hamas is proscribed as a terrorist organisation by the UK and other governments. The use of attribution is required by our Editorial Guidelines:

https://www.bbc.com/editorialguidelines/guidelines

We know that our audiences turn to us for clarity and to help them separate fact from fake. We know that trust is earned and we do not take that for granted.

We welcome your feedback as we strive to safeguard our reputation as the world’s most trusted news organisation.  

BBC Complaints Team

BBC said at the weekend that marches on the UK showing solidarity with Palestinians were pro Hamas. It’s no longer an organisation that can be trusted.


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BBC said at the weekend that marches on the UK showing solidarity with Palestinians were pro Hamas. It’s no longer an organisation that can be trusted.


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Meanwhile the pro Isreal side of social media are claiming that the BBC is pro hamas / anti Isreal.

They generally are pretty balanced and factual in their reporting and get slated from both sides for doing so.

[Ozyhibby]

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Meanwhile the pro Isreal side of social media are claiming that the BBC is pro hamas / anti Isreal.

They generally are pretty balanced and factual in their reporting and get slated from both sides for doing so.

What’s factual about labelling support for Palestinians as supporting Hamas?


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[Paul1642]

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What’s factual about labelling support for Palestinians as supporting Hamas?


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I haven’t seen the article, got a link?

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BBC said at the weekend that marches on the UK showing solidarity with Palestinians were pro Hamas. It’s no longer an organisation that can be trusted.

Where have you been for the last 10 years??

[marinello59]

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Meanwhile the pro Isreal side of social media are claiming that the BBC is pro hamas / anti Isreal.

They generally are pretty balanced and factual in their reporting and get slated from both sides for doing so.

People see what they want to see and take things out of context to suit their own agenda. The BBC does a good job with things like this as they are doing again.

[MKHIBEE]

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Meanwhile the pro Isreal side of social media are claiming that the BBC is pro hamas / anti Isreal.

They generally are pretty balanced and factual in their reporting and get slated from both sides for doing so.

We must listen to different BBC news channels then if you think that

[Ozyhibby]

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People see what they want to see and take things out of context to suit their own agenda. The BBC does a good job with things like this as they are doing again.

Labelling people pro Hamas for marching against the bombing of Gaza is not doing a good job.


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[Paul1642]

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Labelling people pro Hamas for marching against the bombing of Gaza is not doing a good job.


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I’ve still not seen the link to this.

[Stairway 2 7]

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Labelling people pro Hamas for marching against the bombing of Gaza is not doing a good job.


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I've not seen them say the marchers were pro Hamas. People are complaining that the BBC are refusing to call Hamas terrorist and the attack on Israel a terrorist attack, they are using Militant apparently.

[Ozyhibby]

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I’ve still not seen the link to this.

https://x.com/saulstaniforth/status/...dxJXScFNwz8V4A


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[Paul1642]

So it’s not stating that people who were marching against the bombing are pro Hamas. Exact words are

“Several demonstrations across Britain during which people voiced their backing for Hamas”

Factualy accurate then: individual people at demonstrations across Britain did voice support for Hamas.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/woman...otest-12983969

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2429995.html

https://www.removepaywall.com/article/current

[Just Alf]

Don't know all the rights and wrongs but watching the bbc news on Sunday, both Israeli IDF and Palestinian spokesmen were annoyed at the tone of the BBC questioning

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Labelling people pro Hamas for marching against the bombing of Gaza is not doing a good job.


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I know you think you saw this but I can’t find the evidence. Do you have a link.

Edit.. Link you did provide didn’t show that had happened.

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https://x.com/bedier/status/17143210...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

BBC apology.


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[Keith_M]

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So it’s not stating that people who were marching against the bombing are pro Hamas. Exact words are

“Several demonstrations across Britain during which people voiced their backing for Hamas”

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TBF, I can see why some people are annoyed about that, as it's worded in such a way that it could be interpreted as saying that was the purpose of the protests.

I'm not suggesting that was their intention, but I do feel it's badly worded.

[Dalianwanda]

reportedly 500 killed in israeli airstrike on a hospital .... Isreal "looking into it"...This is just sickening

[tamig]

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Labelling people pro Hamas for marching against the bombing of Gaza is not doing a good job.


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Where was this? I listen to 5 Live all the time and never heard such nonsense.

[JimBHibees]

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TBF, I can see why some people are annoyed about that, as it's worded in such a way that it could be interpreted as saying that was the purpose of the protests.

I'm not suggesting that was their intention, but I do feel it's badly worded.

Yep very duplicitous wording. Typical beeb

[MKHIBEE]

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reportedly 500 killed in israeli airstrike on a hospital .... Isreal "looking into it"...This is just sickening

Unfortunately I think this is only the beginning of Israel’s genocide of the Palestinian people in Gaza