SNP are lying b******s as well !

[Stairway 2 7]

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Well that's disappointing. As you say, needs to be addressed.

I'm sure everything can be ironed out pretty easily, it's getting to much press than it deserves.

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But you do have to consider unintended consequences and knock on effects. The DRS doesn’t cover glassware for food packaging. But some local authorities are scrapping glass collection citing DRS. So where does all the glassware go that isn't covered by DRS? Most likely landfill. That can't be an outcome anyone wants.

Some others don't offer it at the moment! I have to take glass to the recycling centre. But we are getting another bin just for paper and cardboard!

[Callum_62]

West Lothian has never offered glass pick up as far as I know

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[Santa Cruz]

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West Lothian has never offered glass pick up as far as I know

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Hadn't realised that. Google says " Currently in Scotland, households in 16 out of the 32 Local Authorities receive some form glass kerbside collection. However, out of the 16 Local Authorities, not all householders are fully served by a kerbside system³¹. For example, Glasgow excludes high densely populated areas."

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How do you buy food? Online retailers are obliged to collect containers for those that get home deliveries

I do it all online and have it delivered, I hadn’t read the deposit return scheme in full but have just read the website, seems the online retailers won’t have to bother collecting anything until at least 2025, text below from the deposit return website:

“On 15 December 2022, the Minister for Green Skills, Circular Economy and Biodiversity proposed to bring forward amendments to the Regulations so that initially only the largest grocery supermarkets will be obliged to provide a takeback service for online orders; all other businesses will be exempt from online takeback.

A new date was proposed for takeback to be available to the public in 2025. Any potential amendments to the Regulations will need to be approved by the Scottish Parliament before taking effect.”

I caught a bit of an interview with Lorna Slater on Sunday, one of the benefits she mentioned was not having broken alcohol bottles all over the streets, I can’t imagine that the drunk teenagers (and older idiots) will stop and think twice because they want to go back and collect 20p, this all seems a bit like punishing the whole class at school because one idiot is misbehaving!

[Moulin Yarns]

Silly question, but what happens if a producer decides not to sign up to the DR'S by today's deadline? Surely they can still produce and sell but the machine will reject them??

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Silly question, but what happens if a producer decides not to sign up to the DR'S by today's deadline? Surely they can still produce and sell but the machine will reject them??

According to the man from Innis & Gunn who was on the tv on Sunday he said they would be banned from trading in Scotland if they didn’t sign up!

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Silly question, but what happens if a producer decides not to sign up to the DR'S by today's deadline? Surely they can still produce and sell but the machine will reject them??

They can't sell in Scotland anymore.

https://www.letsrecycle.com/news/pro...ering-for-drs/

Although I am unsure who is checking and what actual offence is being committed if they do.

[James310]

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"Alister Jack: No UKG ministers have received a formal request setting out the scope & rationale for a UKIM exemption for the SG's DRS. Should a request be received, it will be considered by the relevant W’hall depts. As I have set out, the bar for a UKIM exemption is very high."

Take the politics out of this for a minute, the deadline for registration is tonight and the Scottish Government (Lorna Slater) hasn't done one of the most critical and fundamental things it needs to do.

Slater should be binned, not recycled.

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"Alister Jack: No UKG ministers have received a formal request setting out the scope & rationale for a UKIM exemption for the SG's DRS. Should a request be received, it will be considered by the relevant W’hall depts. As I have set out, the bar for a UKIM exemption is very high."

Take the politics out of this for a minute, the deadline for registration is tonight and the Scottish Government (Lorna Slater) hasn't done one of the most critical and fundamental things it needs to do.

Slater should be binned, not recycled.

Labour have just called for her to be dropped from the scheme

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🔺NEW. Labour calling on Green minister Lorna Slater to quit over deposit return scheme "chaos", saying she has lost control of the scheme and lost the confidence of Scotland's small businesses

[Mr Grieves]

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"Alister Jack: No UKG ministers have received a formal request setting out the scope & rationale for a UKIM exemption for the SG's DRS. Should a request be received, it will be considered by the relevant W’hall depts. As I have set out, the bar for a UKIM exemption is very high."

Take the politics out of this for a minute, the deadline for registration is tonight and the Scottish Government (Lorna Slater) hasn't done one of the most critical and fundamental things it needs to do.

Slater should be binned, not recycled.

Ah, the UK internal market act that wasn't supported by the devolved governments in Scotland and Wales because they warned it was attack on devolution. They were right.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-56800830

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I'm sure everything can be ironed out pretty easily, it's getting to much press than it deserves.

Hold on a minute. When you have a Government Minister saying it's full steam ahead while all of the candidates for FM are giving different views as to whether it will even happen then that's worthy of attention.

[James310]

Innis & Gunn boss: 'I will not register for Deposit Return Scheme'. We have been advised from the highest levels that we should not sign the producer’s agreement as the DRS is unworkable in its current format.” It can’t be implemented if companies refuse.

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Only 14.7% of the 4500 producers circularity Scotland expected to sign up by the deadline have. Rumours suppliers have been privately told it will be delayed

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Only 14.7% of the 4500 producers circularity Scotland expected to sign up by the deadline have. Rumours suppliers have been privately told it will be delayed

I just saw a headline saying producers of 95% of Scottish drinks sold had signed up? I guess both could be true.
I think it’s inevitable it gets delayed then depending on who wins leadership election it will either proceed or be stopped.


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I just saw a headline saying producers of 95% of Scottish drinks sold had signed up? I guess both could be true.
I think it’s inevitable it gets delayed then depending on who wins leadership election it will either proceed or be stopped.


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90% of products sold most are from about 20 companies though. Most small producers haven't, so grand if you want Tennents or Coke but not ipa from a small company

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90% of products sold most are from about 20 companies though. Most small producers haven't, so grand if you want Tennents or Coke but not ipa from a small company

I’m sure that small changes will be made and grace periods given to the smaller producers.


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I’m sure that small changes will be made and grace periods given to the smaller producers.


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Slater said on Sunday they were considering giving small producers 12 extension. Baffling they were still mulling it 2 days before deadline

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I’m sure that small changes will be made and grace periods given to the smaller producers.


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Would make sense... its a bit of a mare how it seems to be getting implemented.

I like the current system, just a shame so many don't use it/do it properly meaning this new scheme is needed.

[Just Alf]

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Slater said on Sunday they were considering giving small producers 12 extension. Baffling they were still mulling it 2 days before deadline

Yup, she also said that discussion had been had with Westminster (she said who it was, Teresa C???) But feels like it's been 'talks' and no official request .... assuming who you belive.

[Berwickhibby]

This is the sort of shambles I would expect when you let an idiot like Lorna Slater run a scheme like this

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"Alister Jack: No UKG ministers have received a formal request setting out the scope & rationale for a UKIM exemption for the SG's DRS. Should a request be received, it will be considered by the relevant W’hall depts. As I have set out, the bar for a UKIM exemption is very high."

Take the politics out of this for a minute, the deadline for registration is tonight and the Scottish Government (Lorna Slater) hasn't done one of the most critical and fundamental things it needs to do.

Slater should be binned, not recycled.

Surprised you have chosen to believe the Tory

[He's here!]

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Slater said on Sunday they were considering giving small producers 12 extension. Baffling they were still mulling it 2 days before deadline

Only one in six firms have signed up for the scheme by the deadline.

[Callum_62]

Interesting
https://www.thenational.scot/news/23...ed-parliament/


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[WhileTheChief..]

“DRS will go down in history as one of the most important pieces of work ever done by this parliament"

Really???!!!

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Interesting
https://www.thenational.scot/news/23...ed-parliament/


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That's awkward, and entirely unsurprising.

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Interesting
https://www.thenational.scot/news/23...ed-parliament/


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Really dislike the term "misleading parliament". A desperate round about way to avoid calling these people liars. In any other walk of life, you'd be called out as a liar, not "misleading". Alister Jack is a liar.

[James310]

I guess to clear it all up the Scottish Government could publish the request and that would prove really embarrassing for Alastair Jack.

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I guess to clear it all up the Scottish Government could publish the request and that would prove really embarrassing for Alastair Jack.

Did you read the article?

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“Contrary to his claim in the House of Commons that no exemption has been sought for the DRS, documents released by the Scottish Government yesterday showed that initial discussions began in 2021, were stepped up in 2022 – and in January, the Deputy First Minister was forced to write to the UK Government expressing his alarm at the lack of progress”, she said.

I don't think Alister Jack is capable of feeling "embarrassment". Which is why he holds the position he holds.

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Did you read the article?



I don't think Alister Jack is capable of feeling "embarrassment". Which is why he holds the position he holds.

Oddly the article doesn't actually cite a formal request.