Local elections

[Moulin Yarns]

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SNP take administration from the Tories in Perth and Kinross.

Immediately announce £104k to the school activities and food initiative for school holidays and £600k towards cost of living poverty in the private rentals sector.

Can I ask what committees you are on?

Ignore that, I have seen the committees. But an independent as provost?! Actually I think having him on board is a good idea.

[grunt]

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Let's hope so, I'd like to see my local council improving the conditions of the city for its inhabitants.

I really don't care if they are Tory/SNP/Labour or whatever, I get the impression though that some people will be hoping the Tories do as badly as the SNP have done in running EC as a point scoring excercise.

Really? This person simply thinks that a party that came fifth in the Council elections in Edinburgh, who lost 8 of their previous 17 seats, should not have a casting vote in how the Council is run. But that's just me.

[Since90+2]

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Really? This person simply thinks that a party that came fifth in the Council elections in Edinburgh, who lost 8 of their previous 17 seats, should not have a casting vote in how the Council is run. But that's just me.

To be honest I don't really care how the administration comes about, I'm not that politically motivated, if they do a better job than the previous SNP council then ultimately that's good for the people of Edinburgh.

I'll leave other people to argue if the council's political allegiance is Blue/Red/Yellow/Orange or whatever, do better than the previous lot did and that's good enough for me.

[StevieC]

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Can I ask what committees you are on?

Ignore that, I have seen the committees. But an independent as provost?! Actually I think having him on board is a good idea.

Wouldn’t be comfortable discussing on a public message board .. made that mistake last month and then saw it copied to Twitter and get out of control 😂

[Moulin Yarns]

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Wouldn’t be comfortable discussing on a public message board .. made that mistake last month and then saw it copied to Twitter and get out of control 😂

No worries, I'll get in touch through official channels if need be. I don't think the position of Provost has any more clout but he is one of my councillors.

[He's here!]

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I don't think anybody can say Edinburgh Council has been well run the last few years.

Local politics should be separated from national politics, I don't think a Labour/Tory/Lib Dem coalition could possibly be any worse run than the state of EC the last few years.

Agreed. The roads network in particular is the worst I've known it and the spaces for people programme a shambles.

[Santa Cruz]

S27 turnout was 44.8%, down from 46.9% in 2017. Think you asked earlier in the thread, can't muster the effort to look for your OP. Down also in Edinburgh.

[Radium]

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Let's hope so, I'd like to see my local council improving the conditions of the city for its inhabitants.

I really don't care if they are Tory/SNP/Labour or whatever, I get the impression though that some people will be hoping the Tories do as badly as the SNP have done in running EC as a point scoring excercise.

West Lothian resident that’s glad to see the immediate impact on roads with the A89 between the arches and Newbridge roundabout finally being sorted.


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[degenerated]

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To be honest I don't really care how the administration comes about, I'm not that politically motivated, if they do a better job than the previous SNP council then ultimately that's good for the people of Edinburgh.

I'll leave other people to argue if the council's political allegiance is Blue/Red/Yellow/Orange or whatever, do better than the previous lot did and that's good enough for me.

Wasn't it an SNP/labour council?

[degenerated]

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As I posted earlier Edinburgh has the worst congestion in the UK and has for years, the fact it's even worse than London is scandalous. That's a major failing of the SNP lead EC the last few years.

Is that definitely the case, with London apparently having the worst in the world?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59559863

[degenerated]

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Really? This person simply thinks that a party that came fifth in the Council elections in Edinburgh, who lost 8 of their previous 17 seats, should not have a casting vote in how the Council is run. But that's just me.

Remember though, Sarwar promised people they would be better off under labour councils. Up to a grand, not to be sniffed at. 20220526_185701.jpg20220526_185551.jpg

[Since90+2]

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Is that definitely the case, with London apparently having the worst in the world?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59559863

Plenty articles available if you Google "Edinburgh worst congestion". Here's one:

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19007009.edinburgh-named-congested-city-uk-fourth-year-running/#:~:text=Edinburgh%20has%20been%20named%20the,in%2 0peak%20traffic%20in%202021.

Perhaps London has overtaken Edinburgh now, but even if it has, the fact Edinburgh was actually worse than London for 4 years running is indicative of a poorly run council.

[Mr Grieves]

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Wasn't it an SNP/labour council?

It was. Both groups wanted to continue with that arrangement but Sarwar has said no and we now have a completely unsustainable situation were labour will rely on the Tories for every vote. Bizarre

[Ozyhibby]

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It was. Both groups wanted to continue with that arrangement but Sarwar has said no and we now have a completely unsustainable situation were labour will rely on the Tories for every vote. Bizarre

Given how much teaming up with the Tories in Better Together harmed Labour in 2014 it is surprising to see Sarwar doubling down on this and doing it again. A man who constantly complains about the constitution dominating Scottish politics has now made it a condition that his party only works locally with parties that agree with him on the constitution. No matter what else they may differ on.
Who knows how things will turn out in Edinburgh but this coalition looks unstable especially when the local councillors involved don’t want it but are being forced into it.
I imagine policies like rent control are now dead in the water so it’s not all bad.


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[James310]

I never knew the SNP tried to do a deal with the Tory's.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...lellan-3708764

[Ozyhibby]

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I never knew the SNP tried to do a deal with the Tory's.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...lellan-3708764

You clearly did not read the article.


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[degenerated]

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I never knew the SNP tried to do a deal with the Tory's.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...lellan-3708764

They didn't, the article linked makes that quite clear. They asked to the Tories to abstain and offered nothing in return, as per the the quote from the Tories.

"So, he and some Green councillors went on manoeuvres to see if the Tory group could be persuaded to come to some accommodation without actually offering anything, which seems a strange way to do business."

[Since90+2]

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They didn't, the article linked makes that quite clear. They asked to the Tories to abstain and offered nothing in return, as per the the quote from the Tories.

"So, he and some Green councillors went on manoeuvres to see if the Tory group could be persuaded to come to some accommodation without actually offering anything, which seems a strange way to do business."

"They asked the Tories to abstain". Is that not essentially appealing to the Tories to keep them in power, as if they abstained, the SNP would have stayed on if I'm not mistaken?

[degenerated]

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"They asked the Tories to abstain". Is that not essentially appealing to the Tories to keep them in power, as if they abstained, the SNP would have stayed on if I'm not mistaken?

If you think that's a deal then you seem like the sort of person I could do business with

[Ozyhibby]

Any Labour voters out there should read that article.


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[Since90+2]

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If you think that's a deal then you seem like the sort of person I could do business with

If you could point to where in my post I said it was a deal?

The SNP essentially asked the Tories to keep them in power by abstaining, in theory allowing the Tories to have the casting vote. The exact same thing people are moaning about Labour doing.

[degenerated]

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If you could point to where in my post I said it was a deal?

The SNP essentially asked the Tories to keep them in power by abstaining, in theory allowing the Tories to have the casting vote. The exact same thing people are moaning about Labour doing.

Labour are giving them paid, executive positions on the council. The SNP asked them a question.

So exactly the same, but different.

[Since90+2]

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Labour are giving them paid, executive positions on the council. The SNP asked them a question.

So exactly the same, but different.

The SNP asked the Tories to keep them in power by abstaining. You might not like that, but however you dress it up thats essentially what happened.

[degenerated]

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The SNP asked the Tories to keep them in power by abstaining. You might not like that, but however you dress it up thats essentially what happened.

The SNP asked them to abstain on the basis that they were the largest party, as is the accepted protocol, and offered the Tories nothing in return.

Labour offered them paid executive positions on the council for their support.

If you choose not to accept that it's not a deal, as per James 310 post I responded too, and that it's not completely different then that's fine with me but i'll stick with the actual factual stuff

[Moulin Yarns]

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The SNP asked the Tories to keep them in power by abstaining. You might not like that, but however you dress it up thats essentially what happened.

This is turning out to be the same unsubstantiated argument that the SNP were responsible for Thatcher being elected!!

[Ozyhibby]

This ‘not a coalition’ looks very unstable right from the start. What happens if it breaks down? Do we have another election?


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[Santa Cruz]

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You clearly did not read the article.


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I can't, what does it say? I don't even remember reading 2 EEN articles this week, so no idea why I can't view it.

Edit: Apologies, quoted the wrong post. Hope my reply made sense.

[Since90+2]

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This ‘not a coalition’ looks very unstable right from the start. What happens if it breaks down? Do we have another election?


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Why don't we just hope it works out and the residents have a good and effective council? I'm a supporter of independence, but it seems to be that lots of folk would rather the whole thing was a shambles so they can strike out at the Tories and Labour.

How about let's see if it works out and our day to day lives are a bit easier with a well run council instead of constant political bickering?

[marinello59]

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Why don't we just hope it works out and the residents have a good and effective council? I'm a supporter of independence, but it seems to be that lots of folk would rather the whole thing was a shambles so they can strike out at the Tories and Labour.

How about let's see if it works out and our day to day lives are a bit easier with a well run council instead of constant political bickering?

[grunt]

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Why don't we just hope it works out and the residents have a good and effective council? I'm a supporter of independence, but it seems to be that lots of folk would rather the whole thing was a shambles so they can strike out at the Tories and Labour.

How about let's see if it works out and our day to day lives are a bit easier with a well run council instead of constant political bickering?

Yeah, quite right. Let's completely ignore the democratic process and have the Council run by people that no one voted for. Let's see if it works. Why not?