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    Quote Originally Posted by degenerated View Post
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    They didn't, the article linked makes that quite clear. They asked to the Tories to abstain and offered nothing in return, as per the the quote from the Tories.

    "So, he and some Green councillors went on manoeuvres to see if the Tory group could be persuaded to come to some accommodation without actually offering anything, which seems a strange way to do business."
    "They asked the Tories to abstain". Is that not essentially appealing to the Tories to keep them in power, as if they abstained, the SNP would have stayed on if I'm not mistaken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    "They asked the Tories to abstain". Is that not essentially appealing to the Tories to keep them in power, as if they abstained, the SNP would have stayed on if I'm not mistaken?
    If you think that's a deal then you seem like the sort of person I could do business with

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    Quote Originally Posted by degenerated View Post
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    If you think that's a deal then you seem like the sort of person I could do business with
    If you could point to where in my post I said it was a deal?

    The SNP essentially asked the Tories to keep them in power by abstaining, in theory allowing the Tories to have the casting vote. The exact same thing people are moaning about Labour doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    If you could point to where in my post I said it was a deal?

    The SNP essentially asked the Tories to keep them in power by abstaining, in theory allowing the Tories to have the casting vote. The exact same thing people are moaning about Labour doing.
    Labour are giving them paid, executive positions on the council. The SNP asked them a question.

    So exactly the same, but different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by degenerated View Post
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    Labour are giving them paid, executive positions on the council. The SNP asked them a question.

    So exactly the same, but different.
    The SNP asked the Tories to keep them in power by abstaining. You might not like that, but however you dress it up thats essentially what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    The SNP asked the Tories to keep them in power by abstaining. You might not like that, but however you dress it up thats essentially what happened.
    The SNP asked them to abstain on the basis that they were the largest party, as is the accepted protocol, and offered the Tories nothing in return.

    Labour offered them paid executive positions on the council for their support.

    If you choose not to accept that it's not a deal, as per James 310 post I responded too, and that it's not completely different then that's fine with me but i'll stick with the actual factual stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    The SNP asked the Tories to keep them in power by abstaining. You might not like that, but however you dress it up thats essentially what happened.
    This is turning out to be the same unsubstantiated argument that the SNP were responsible for Thatcher being elected!!
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    This is turning out to be the same unsubstantiated argument that the SNP were responsible for Thatcher being elected!!
    Not unsubstantiated…fact was the SNP MPs crossed the floor and sided with the Tories in a vote of no confidence against Callaghan which resulted in a general election which Thatcher won. Before you start, I am fully aware that Labour and Liberal MPs also crossed the floor. However without the 11 SNPs the Tories would not have had a majority to force said election.

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