The generic Hearts thread

[Ozyhibby]

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So who thinks Hearts will take Legal route or now back down

I think they will not take legal action and fall into line.


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They will not go legal. They know they have no chance. Her grandstanding now means she has to find a way of talking down all their numpty fans though.


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[Bostonhibby]

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So who thinks Hearts will take Legal route or now back down

I think they will not take legal action and fall into line.


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They and the couple of other members of the new hun sister & brotherhood haven't so far set out clearly what the issues of law they want rulings on are so it's a no for me.

Sevco did disclose a QC's view but it read more like a rehash of several earlier whines. If it was so relevant, given the apparent importance to them why not just issue proceedings quickly, the clock was ticking the whole time and Mrs doctor Budge will have known she hadn't even sharpened the task force pencils never mind being able to put anything on the table on time - so it proved.

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[HibbySpurs]

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Hearts are such a basket case, their own fans don't know where to start. Budge's stewardship, keeping Craig Levein on, recruiting Stendel, Stendel's abysmal management, the players horrendous performances, the rank awful recruitment, the massive over-spending, the bloated player pool, the hyper inflated wages and on and on. You'd struggle to find one part of the club that's functioning properly.

Surely the chip fryers are functioning properly?

[Heisenberg]

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So who thinks Hearts will take Legal route or now back down

I think they will not take legal action and fall into line.


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I reckon it’s just posturing. Ann Budge said she’d accept relegation if that’s what the clubs voted for, don’t see her changing her mind now. A legal challenge would be costly and would hurt their reputation massively.

[AltheHibby]

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I reckon it’s just posturing. Ann Budge said she’d accept relegation if that’s what the clubs voted for, don’t see her changing her mind now. A legal challenge would be costly and would hurt their reputation massively.

It would only hurt their reputation if they won!

[Sammy7nil]

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I reckon it’s just posturing. Ann Budge said she’d accept relegation if that’s what the clubs voted for, don’t see her changing her mind now. A legal challenge would be costly and would hurt their reputation massively.

Bagpuss won't change her mind she is a women of integrity

[Crazyhorse]

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As has been pointed out on many occasions, UEFA does not look kindly on clubs going to the courts other than the Court of Arbitration in Sport.

Personally, I hope they do go to court because they're very unlikely to win and the costs could be horrible.

Who would Hearts take to court? It wouldn’t be the SFA would UEFA be bothered if it was a company i.e. SPFL?
It’s a genuine question, I’m not clear on this myself.

[Greenworld]

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Who would Hearts take to court? It wouldn’t be the SFA would UEFA be bothered if it was a company i.e. SPFL?
It’s a genuine question, I’m not clear on this myself.

If you take the Spfl to court surley you are taking the 11 other clubs to court in effect as the spfl only represent them

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[Eyrie]

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If you take the Spfl to court surley you are taking the 11 other clubs to court in effect as the spfl only represent them

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It's even better.

It's the other 41 clubs as they're all members of the one organisation (SPFL).

[Waxy]

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Who would Hearts take to court? It wouldn’t be the SFA would UEFA be bothered if it was a company i.e. SPFL?
It’s a genuine question, I’m not clear on this myself.

It would be the SPFL.But as you say that's the clubs and themselves.
A democratic vote was held for the issue they dont like and they voted on it.
Therefore they must accept the vote outcome.
The end.

[Onion]

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So who thinks Hearts will take Legal route or now back down

I think they will not take legal action and fall into line.


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Not a chance they'll take legal action. They're done.

[calumhibee1]

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Not a chance they'll take legal action. They're done.

The Jambo tears are incredible. I didn’t think they were capable of being so graceless in their relegation but holy ****, they’ve outdone themselves and then some. If someone offered me a normal relegation or the way it’s happened for Hearts then I’d choose this route every single time.

[tamig]

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All the Championship clubs must have been well impressed with gardiners role in all this and also their chairman fulsome letter of support.

Always had time for Inverness too. Ah well Nairn County it is..

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I actually sent a donation to Nairn today after their excellent statement at the weekend. True community club.

[truehibernian]

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So who thinks Hearts will take Legal route or now back down

I think they will not take legal action and fall into line.


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Hope they do, and hope they have the estate agent as part of their legal (advice) team his utter lack of legal knowledge on Sportsound filled me with confidence they'll try.......and fail spectacularly

I was made aware of a post of a 4th year 'law student' on their forum yesterday (confidently predicting they have a case) and hope that he takes this extended time of furlough and contemplation to actually read some law books and not spout nonsense on a football forum........or I'm afraid his law career is already over

[Greenworld]

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Hope they do, and hope they have the estate agent as part of their legal (advice) team his utter lack of legal knowledge on Sportsound filled me with confidence they'll try.......and fail spectacularly

I was made aware of a post of a 4th year 'law student' on their forum yesterday (confidently predicting they have a case) and hope that he takes this extended time of furlough and contemplation to actually read some law books and not spout nonsense on a football forum........or I'm afraid his law career is already over

Assuming your a law person?

If yes what could they conceivably put forward in court

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[truehibernian]

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Assuming your a law person?

If yes what could they conceivably put forward in court

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If Deans is to be believed they'll go down a delict route and duty of care...............and they have no chance. As for an injunction............I'll become a priest if any court grants one that should answer your question GW

[ShadesLongThrow]

One of the funniest things if they take the SPFL to court is that, because they are members themselves, not only are they taking themselves to court, they will be required to contribute towards the cost of defending the SPFL against themselves. So they are going to pay twice, once for each side. Mental.

[truehibernian]

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One of the funniest things if they take the SPFL to court is that, because they are members themselves, not only are they taking themselves to court, they will be required to contribute towards the cost of defending the SPFL against themselves. So they are going to pay twice, once for each side. Mental.

Any money they throw at a legal challenge is money wasted............let's see how serious The Rangers are when it comes to playing in Europe and needing to challenge Celtic.....a club already mired in debt Absolutely not going to happen.....if Hearts do, they're on the road to nowhere.......I think when Deans said they'd consulted a QC he really meant he'd drank a bottle of QC

[007]

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So who thinks Hearts will take Legal route or now back down

I think they will not take legal action and fall into line.


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I hope they do because they'll get laughed out of court.

What they'll most likely do is continue to squeal and squeal 🐷🐷 in the hope they'll be offered money to make then shut up. To help that cause, the likes of L Deans will be given a lot of airtime and column inches by the Jambo friendly media.

[hibeerealist]

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If Deans is to be believed they'll go down a delict route and duty of care...............and they have no chance. As for an injunction............I'll become a priest if any court grants one that should answer your question GW

All hot air and they will make noises to appease the “wee cousins bereft of bus fares” BUT NO court action,

[hibeerealist]

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The creditors cup would be a good idea, all ticket sales money going to the Lady Haig poppy fund, Scottish Amubulance Service, Macraes Battalion trust, Big Hearts and other similar bumped charities.

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Perfect BH very relevant too.

[truehibernian]

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I hope they do because they'll get laughed out of court.

What they'll most likely do is continue to squeal and squeal 🐷🐷 in the hope they'll be offered money to make then shut up. To help that cause, the likes of L Deans will be given a lot of airtime and column inches by the Jambo friendly media.

I wouldn't even trust him to sell a wendy house after his rant on Saturday

[CropleyWasGod]

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If Deans is to be believed they'll go down a delict route and duty of care...............and they have no chance. As for an injunction............I'll become a priest if any court grants one that should answer your question GW

Your flock are safe. Injunctions are for the English and Welsh, no?

[truehibernian]

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Your flock are safe. Injunctions are for the English and Welsh, no?

I was quoting the legal eagle Deans CWG.......his view was they could raise an action to stop football while it was heard

[007]

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Any money they throw at a legal challenge is money wasted............let's see how serious The Rangers are when it comes to playing in Europe and needing to challenge Celtic.....a club already mired in debt Absolutely not going to happen.....if Hearts do, they're on the road to nowhere.......I think when Deans said they'd consulted a QC he really meant he'd drank a bottle of QC

Deans made the point that Rangers' QC thought they had a very good case, Partick's QC thought they had a very good case and that he thought Hearts had a very good case. Funny that, solicitors who are probably struggling for work at the moment encouraging potential clients to go ahead with expensive court cases.(He probably fancies a role for himself on the team, even if he is just a conveyancer).

[CropleyWasGod]

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I was quoting the legal eagle Deans CWG.......his view was they could raise an action to stop football while it was heard

Ha....even better. 😂

[truehibernian]

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Deans made the point that Rangers' QC thought they had a very good case, Partick's QC thought they had a very good case and that he thought Hearts had a very good case. Funny that, solicitors who are probably struggling for work at the moment encouraging potential clients to go ahead with expensive court cases.(He probably fancies a role for himself on the team, even if he is just a conveyancer).

I've not met a lawyer yet who would not say there's a case - lawyers are men (and women ) we employ to protect against lawyers

[Bostonhibby]

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I actually sent a donation to Nairn today after their excellent statement at the weekend. True community club.

I'll do the same.

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[O'Rourke3]

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I don't think Stendel will be back. I suspect there will be something in his contract that allows him and the club to cut ties which I think will happen.

On another note he seems to be escaping most of the flak for how terrible they were under him, seems Levein and Budge are the main culprits in all this.

He might have a get out clause if he's not paid, for say 6 weeks....

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[SouthMoroccoStu]

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https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/i...1052/#comments

Makes a change from kickback

I find I can never fully sink my teeth into PieAndBovril

The idea is there, a collection of various teams fans in open (mostly civil) debate on all matters of Scottish football

But I often find it difficult to follow posters and their points of view and who and what they are agreeing/disagreeing with