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    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/07/po...ing/index.html

    Fair enough when I read that first i saw 2m, but his campaign man states that was the months contribution.

    Heres how he makes his money back
    http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/donald-trump-gop-leaders-could-be-enriched-last-minute-tax-break-inserted-final
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    Campaign man steven mnuchin, worth c300 m usd and with a questionable ethics outlook

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    Do you have a list of who provided the donations?

    http://fortune.com/2016/12/09/donald...aign-spending/
    Woody Johnson - NY Jets - $1m
    Robert Kraft - NE Patriots - $1m
    Jerry Jones - Dallas Cowboys - $1m
    Dan Snyder - Washington Redskins - $500k
    Shad Khan - Jacksonvill Jaguars - $1m
    Bob McNair - Houston Texans - $2m
    Stan Kroenke - LA Rams - $1m
    Edwars Glazer - Tampa Bay Bucaneers - $250k

    Donations made by NFL owners either to Trumps campaign or his inaugration committee. Makes him look a bit hypocritical in his attacks on them since don't you think?
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    Woody Johnson - NY Jets - $1m
    Robert Kraft - NE Patriots - $1m
    Jerry Jones - Dallas Cowboys - $1m
    Dan Snyder - Washington Redskins - $500k
    Shad Khan - Jacksonvill Jaguars - $1m
    Bob McNair - Houston Texans - $2m
    Stan Kroenke - LA Rams - $1m
    Edwars Glazer - Tampa Bay Bucaneers - $250k

    Donations made by NFL owners either to Trumps campaign or his inaugration committee. Makes him look a bit hypocritical in his attacks on them since don't you think?
    It would interesting to view Clintons list of donors in comparison.

    No I don't think it makes him hypocritical it could be said that it shows you can't buy Trump as he is attacking people who donated to his campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomeTeam View Post
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    It would interesting to view Clintons list of donors in comparison.

    No I don't think it makes him hypocritical it could be said that it shows you can't buy Trump as he is attacking people who donated to his campaign.
    But you're definitely not a Trump supporter?

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    It would interesting to view Clintons list of donors in comparison.

    No I don't think it makes him hypocritical it could be said that it shows you can't buy Trump as he is attacking people who donated to his campaign.

    Trump paid off all of his rich pals and donators via his tax plan...
    He's quoted as saying at Mar a Lago - you've all just gotten considerably richer - when the tax plan was signed off.

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    Eh no.

    An allegation is a precursor to an investigation which determines if in fact they are true or false.

    Sorry for the point of order
    thanks for saving me the trouble of pointing this out.

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    Well your quite right, im thinking too far into the future as these allegations IMO will turn out to be false and therefore lies.
    ah, so your opinion of multiple allegations of is more important than those belonging to the participants, cool.

    also, since you can’t see into the future, let’s wait and see if any of the many allegations (accurate description provided above for your perusal) come to a charge. Everyone has opinions, it’s the one belonging to the authorities that will matter.

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    The amount of allegations thrown at Trump so far and he hasn't been indicted yet. The bogus russian dossier, the talk of russian meddling in the election all the personal insults thrown at the president from the left makes me think this is just a continuation of false allegations.

    I also don't think that Trump would have spent his money, repeat his own money (not donors money like the Clintons or Obama) on a presidential campaign unless he knew he was squeaky clean (well clean enough not to be prosecuted).
    thats an interesting answer (genuinely, although I have no idea of the veracity). No talk of Russian connections or finances etc addresses the sexual harassment allegations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HomeTeam View Post
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    It would interesting to view Clintons list of donors in comparison.

    No I don't think it makes him hypocritical it could be said that it shows you can't buy Trump as he is attacking people who donated to his campaign.

    Who gives a monkeys about the clintons? You explicitly stated that trump used his own money to fund his presidential campaign, and when challenged on it, you asked for a list of his donators. Then when provided with some, you immediately deflect back to the clintons and ignore the fact your point has been totally obliterated.

    you are trolling imo, knowing that trump is an emotive subject.

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    you are trolling imo, knowing that trump is an emotive subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    Who gives a monkeys about the clintons? You explicitly stated that trump used his own money to fund his presidential campaign, and when challenged on it, you asked for a list of his donators. Then when provided with some, you immediately deflect back to the clintons and ignore the fact your point has been totally obliterated.

    you are trolling imo, knowing that trump is an emotive subject.
    When discussing online with some American people any criticism of Trump is met with oh you think "killory" or "Obama bin Laden" would run the UK better, that's not my point, it is possible for someone to have zero faith in two parties. If you go into some of the more extreme views you will hear Obama is actually a homosexual African Muslim, Michelle is transgender and their kids are in fact orphans who have been bought to keep things in order for the "liberal elite"
    The tin foil hat wearing rednecks are exhausting to anyone with a brain and now that Trump and Breitbart have parted company there is little room for any blame anymore. Fake news was always a liberal issue but now the most right wing publication is making a mockery of Trump so are they fake news too?

    I do feel there is an element in trolling the pro trump line on this thread. On a positive note North and South Korea have had a successful meeting and intend to move forward with more. No this is not a result of Trump but despite him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpj View Post
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    When discussing online with some American people any criticism of Trump is met with oh you think "killory" or "Obama bin Laden" would run the UK better, that's not my point, it is possible for someone to have zero faith in two parties. If you go into some of the more extreme views you will hear Obama is actually a homosexual African Muslim, Michelle is transgender and their kids are in fact orphans who have been bought to keep things in order for the "liberal elite"
    The tin foil hat wearing rednecks are exhausting to anyone with a brain and now that Trump and Breitbart have parted company there is little room for any blame anymore. Fake news was always a liberal issue but now the most right wing publication is making a mockery of Trump so are they fake news too?

    I do feel there is an element in trolling the pro trump line on this thread. On a positive note North and South Korea have had a successful meeting and intend to move forward with more. No this is not a result of Trump but despite him.
    South Korea deciding that dealing with a delusional, tantrum throwing, propaganda spouting man-child with nuclear weapons actually isnt that bad after a year of Trump being president.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wpj View Post
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    When discussing online with some American people any criticism of Trump is met with oh you think "killory" or "Obama bin Laden" would run the UK better, that's not my point, it is possible for someone to have zero faith in two parties. If you go into some of the more extreme views you will hear Obama is actually a homosexual African Muslim, Michelle is transgender and their kids are in fact orphans who have been bought to keep things in order for the "liberal elite"
    The tin foil hat wearing rednecks are exhausting to anyone with a brain and now that Trump and Breitbart have parted company there is little room for any blame anymore. Fake news was always a liberal issue but now the most right wing publication is making a mockery of Trump so are they fake news too?

    I do feel there is an element in trolling the pro trump line on this thread. On a positive note North and South Korea have had a successful meeting and intend to move forward with more. No this is not a result of Trump but despite him.

    I agree, neither of the 2 candidates were particularly attractive to the voters. I just find that posters ‘pro trump, deflect deflect’ policy to be boring and not contributatory at all to the thread.

    I Actually find the steps that both North and South Korea have taken to be quite hopeful and positive in a world where negative news seems to have ruled the way for some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    I agree, neither of the 2 candidates were particularly attractive to the voters. I just find that posters ‘pro trump, deflect deflect’ policy to be boring and not contributatory at all to the thread.

    I Actually find the steps that both North and South Korea have taken to be quite hopeful and positive in a world where negative news seems to have ruled the way for some time.
    It's possible that China is actually playing some ball here for once. It is after all China that ensures the NK regime continues so any softening of the NK stance will be through their bidding.

    There is also the fact that NK has declared 'victory' in their nuclear breakout. They see that as job done so may now be looking to start the process of softening to try and ease some of the ever tighter and more painful sanctions that even for the long suffering populace is starting to bite just a little too hard.


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    He's right, those places are ****holes.

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    He's right, those places are ****holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGRIGI View Post
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    He's right, those places are ****holes.
    ..through which the Americans have always just passed through....

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGRIGI View Post
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    He's right, those places are ****holes.

    oh hello, someone who has never travelled in Africa has found his keyboard..

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    I was going to say “Why are these places ****holes” but that tweet says it a lot better.

    It’s depressing that these comments will actually appeal to Trumps core support who's understanding of world history doesn’t go beyond “white settlers good, everyone else bad”.

    The world would probably be a better place if America had built a wall a long time ago and kept its intervention within its confines.

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    I was going to say “Why are these places ****holes” but that tweet says it a lot better.

    It’s depressing that these comments will actually appeal to Trumps core support who's understanding of world history doesn’t go beyond “white settlers good, everyone else bad”.

    The world would probably be a better place if America had built a wall a long time ago and kept its intervention within its confines.
    Will definitely resonate with his home team.
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    Glad he's no coming tae the UK.

    Not welcome ever.

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    "The language used by me at the DACA meeting was tough, but this was not the language used. What was really tough was the outlandish proposal made - a big setback for DACA!"

    Trump responds by tweet. Can anyone work out what that sentence is supposed to mean? Is he ok?

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    Calling a country a 'shthole' is rude or insulting, not racist.

    I don't think they'll stop accepting aid on the back of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pointer View Post
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    Calling a country a 'shthole' is rude or insulting, not racist.

    I don't think they'll stop accepting aid on the back of this.
    Add in his comments about wanting more immigrants from places like Norway and it most certainly is racist.
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    It's fairly simple really.

    If you're from a s******e, a move to a country that has at it's head an utter imbecile hell-bent on dragging his country back to the 17th century may still seem like a step up.

    If you're from "somewhere like Norway" you don't even entertain a move in that direction.

    If he wants the USA to start attracting decent people from decent countries again, then he should resign immediately.

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    This from the president of a country who's own poorest in society were left to fend for themselves for a week in the New Orleans Superdome during and after hurricane Katrina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Add in his comments about wanting more immigrants from places like Norway and it most certainly is racist.
    Maybe 'countryist'

    Wanting more higher educated immigrants compared to the large numbers of poor that come from the areas he quoted is not the daftest idea and reflects the immigration policies of a number of countries.

    That said he is clearly a racist buffon who can't help himself even if I am being extremely generous in surmising he was merely trying to make a valid point on how the USA's immigration policy might be improved in terms of benefits that may accrue to the receiving nation from said immigration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    If he wants the USA to start attracting decent people from decent countries again, then he should resign immediately.
    I agree with the sentiments of your post, but that line is a bit unfortunate.

    Surely there are "decent people" in every country?

    Or have I misinterpreted your comment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    I agree with the sentiments of your post, but that line is a bit unfortunate.

    Surely there are "decent people" in every country?

    Or have I misinterpreted your comment?
    Yep, my comment was crass, offensive, poorly thought out, plainly wrong and not representative of what I really believe.

    That is the problem when you punch nonsense into a social media platform when angry about something.

    Along with many other good reasons, my tendency to do this from time to time means that I consider myself entirely unsuitable to be the leader of the free world.



    My point should have read - given the idiot that is in charge, America should be grateful that decent people from any country should wish to emigrate there, and if they are wanting the best people from the best counties to wish to live there (as they have in the past) then they are going to have to drastically change the way they do things.

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