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  • Opposed - but will continue to support the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn2015 View Post
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    Well I don't think they could argue against it tbh. I'm sure they would stick all the rest in league 2 and fast track the two sisters into the top league
    And which EPL Clubs are going to vote themselves into the Championship costing themselves millions and millions to make way for the uglies?

    Apart from the top six to eight clubs, all other clubs are in some danger of relegation even with three down. With five down it would be even worse. There would also be teams ejected from the EFL.

    It is not going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    IF, and its a big IF they keep digging away at the SFA i imagine a whole can worms being prysed open

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    ....and it all looked so promising when the writs started flying around :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    The Eye on page 94 cites the offshoregame.net report alleging that “the Scottish Premier League inquiry into Rangers’ use of undisclosed employment benefit trusts (EBTs) to pay players had either been misled or misled itself, ...

    By my reckoning page 94 will be the back inside cover of the next edition. It's only got 48 pages!

    Page 40 for anyone quickly looking for the article in the newsagents ;-)
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    http://thecelticblog.com/2016/07/blo...tish-football/

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    These people will presumably get a life one day.

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    http://thecelticblog.com/2016/07/blo...tish-football/

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    Quickly got bored reading that - anyone got just the bullet points?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    My reading of that is that "a Celtic blog says that UEFA have knocked their same club myth for six."

    I'd rather hear it from UEFA themselves.

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    Quickly got bored reading that - anyone got just the bullet points?
    Some Celtc bloggers who complained to UEFA got a reply describing the New Huns as a "new club/company".

    The gist of the complaint is that the SFA should have blocked the Old Huns' entry to the CL in 2011 because they owed HMRC for the "wee tax case".

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    I think we put it in a nutshell prior to kick off on 21st May.

    'You're not Rangers any more.'

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    Some Celtc bloggers who complained to UEFA got a reply describing the New Huns as a "new club/company".

    The gist of the complaint is that the SFA should have blocked the Old Huns' entry to the CL in 2011 because they owed HMRC for the "wee tax case".
    Thanks, given Sevco are now a new club, what do the Celtic fans want to happen now as punishment?

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    Thanks, given Sevco are now a new club, what do the Celtic fans want to happen now as punishment?
    I think they want the sfa punished or at least embarrassed. The allegation is they knew the Huns shouldn't have been allowed entry so Celtc should've got into the CL instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperAllyMcleod View Post
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    Thanks, given Sevco are now a new club, what do the Celtic fans want to happen now as punishment?

    I think they just want Sevco ( The Rangers ) referred to as a New Club and not the old Rangers who survived liquidation and were relegated to the 4th tier of football by a bunch of " Rangers " Haters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    I think they just want Sevco ( The Rangers ) referred to as a New Club and not the old Rangers who survived liquidation and were relegated to the 4th tier of football by a bunch of " Rangers " Haters.
    Small point mate, they were not relegated. They went into liquidation whereby the dear old SFA allowed them to start again in the bottom tier. They received fines from the SFA for various things which are, as yet, unpaid. The SFA should start charging pay-day loan type interest. 15% per day from date of fine seems about right.

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    All things that should happen but let's face it, won't. The gutless lot in the SFA will continue to do everything they can to placate the huns

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    Quote Originally Posted by southsider View Post
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    Small point mate, they were not relegated. They went into liquidation whereby the dear old SFA allowed them to start again in the bottom tier. They received fines from the SFA for various things which are, as yet, unpaid. The SFA should start charging pay-day loan type interest. 15% per day from date of fine seems about right.

    I know they were not relegated, you know they were not relegated , the whole of Scottish football knows they were not relegated.

    It does stop statements from Ibrox repeating the nonsense and being copied in print by the media Sevco ar*e-lickers.

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    Hey, we should all be celebrating. After all, we somehow survived Armageddon & em, won a wee trophy along the way! Bring on Armageddon 2 I say!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brog View Post
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    Hey, we should all be celebrating. After all, we somehow survived Armageddon & em, won a wee trophy along the way! Bring on Armageddon 2 I say!

    We're not the only ones.

    Inverness, St Johnston, Ross County all won trophies during Armageddon.

    Best thing that's happened to Scottish Football in a long time, pity it was not a permanent arrangement.

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    https://johnjamessite.com/2016/07/10/raising-the-roof/

    John James on the state of the roof's at Ibrox.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn2015 View Post
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    Well I don't think they could argue against it tbh. I'm sure they would stick all the rest in league 2 and fast track the two sisters into the top league
    And exactly who will move aside to create the vacancies?

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    http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...hley-1-4201659

    RANGERS have launched a new multi-million pound legal action against a number of the club’s former directors and billionaire businessman Mike Ashley.

    Lawyers acting for the recently promoted Ladbrokes Premiership side allege that Charles Green, Imran Ahmad, Brian Stockbridge and Derek Llambias acted negligently during their time at the club. The Glasgow team believe the men didn’t act in the business’s best interests when they negotiated commercial deals with Ashley’s Sports Direct. The deals which the club are objecting to include an October 2012 agreement in which the directors allowed Sports Direct to have the ‘naming rights’ to Ibrox stadium. Rangers believe that the naming rights were given to Sports Direct at a price well below their true market value.

    In November 2014, the club also entered into a Partnership Marketing Agreement with Sports Direct which allowed the business advertising space at Ibrox stadium. The club’s current management believe that the deal was also arranged at a price well blow its true market value. They also believe that Mr Ashley unfairly benefited and assisted from the alleged negligence displayed by Mr Green and his colleagues. Now Rangers are suing Mr Green, Mr Ahmad, Mr Stockbridge, Mr Llambias, Sports Direct and Mr Ashley in the Court of Session in Edinburgh.

    The Ibrox club hope to recover a total of £4,106,470.83 from the action. They also want a civil judge to declare the Partnership Marketing Agreement void. The action came to light following a short hearing at the Court of Session on Friday. Advocate Craig Sandison QC, who was appearing on behalf of Sports Direct and Mr Ashley, succeeded in his attempt to get Rangers to disclose documents to them. The lawyer argued that Sports Direct and Mr Ashley needed access to the documents to help them prepare for the case. Judge Lord Boyd agreed with Mr Sandison’s submissions and allowed both Sports Direct’s and Mr Ashley’s lawyers to access the documents. He added: “I am content to allow the motion.”

    The action is concerned with the alleged actions involving the club’s former Chief Executive Charles Green, Commercial Director Imran Ahmad and its former finance director Brian Stockbridge. The club is also concerned with the alleged conduct of Mr Green’s replacement as chief executive Derek Llambias. Lawyers acting for the side alleged that the directors didn’t negotiate the best possible deal when dealing with Mr Ashley and Sports Direct. The club’s legal team believe Mr Green, Mr Ahmad and Mr Stockbridge breached their “fiduciary” duties when they negotiated the “naming rights” for Ibrox stadium. The club claim the businessmen sold the naming rights for £1 and they say the true market value for the deal was at least £500,000 per year. The agreement was in existence for approximately two years but was never enacted.

    The directors who negotiated the deal claim that they didn’t do anything wrong. They say that if another company made a rival offer, Mr Ashley’s firm would have to make another offer at a competitive price to retain the rights. Rangers also object to the Partnership Marketing Agreement which was agreed in November 2014. This allowed Sports Direct to secure advertising space at Ibrox. Lawyers acting for Rangers claim the advertising space was a sold for £1 and this wasn’t the true market value for the deal, and that Mr Llambias agreed the agreement with Sports Direct should go ahead. Rangers claim that Mr Ashley “assisted” in the breach of the “fiduciary duties” owed by the directors to the club. Lawyers acting for the individuals being sued by Rangers deny any wrong doing. The case will next call before the court sometime in the near future.
    Love the 83p on the sum requested!
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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    Well if Ashley fancies it we might at least find out how "unlimited" dodgy Dave's wealth truly is and how much he might finally spend on the the rangers. Losing might cost more than the cost of a few freebies from Wigan and a pension fund deal for Josie O'Barton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    Well if Ashley fancies it we might at least find out how "unlimited" dodgy Dave's wealth truly is and how much he might finally spend on the the rangers.
    How do you mean?

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    Looks to me like King wants to get in and give Ashley a good kicking when he's down.

    I can't stand Ashley and I've enjoyed his recent misfortunes. But it might be nice to see him win this one and land a few heavy blows on King.

    A continuation of the ugly scrap between this pair of odious individuals can only be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    How do you mean?
    Pound for pound the slug that is Ashley has more visible and
    active assets. Dodgy has spoken about wealth as per Craig whyte. Daily record supported "wealth".

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    Can't see this as anything other than a desperate attempt to grab cash from somewhere/anywhere. Wonder what the total cost of the case and subsequent appeals will be?

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