Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

***Jim44*** · 03-12-2015 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dan Sarf

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http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foot...-a3119581.html

Sorry!

The article's two weeks old and I think Curbishley would have just been 'caretaking' which is being done by Peter Grant now.

***greenginger*** · 03-12-2015 03:21 PM

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/...manent-manager

Warby no longer bookies favourite ! Boooo !

***Dan Sarf*** · 03-12-2015 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Jim44

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The article's two weeks old and I think Curbishley would have just been 'caretaking' which is being done by Peter Grant now.

Sorry again.

***Jim44*** · 03-12-2015 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Dan Sarf

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Sorry again.

Don't apologise, keeps our slender hopes of Warburton doing the dirty on them alive.

***Jim44*** · 03-12-2015 03:45 PM

Stuart Gray now favourite. Fun while it lasted, tho'. The muppets can get a night's sleep tonight.

***Dan Sarf*** · 03-12-2015 03:51 PM

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Don't apologise, keeps our slender hopes of Warburton doing the dirty on them alive.

Sorry.

***StevieC*** · 03-12-2015 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by greenginger

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http://www.oddschecker.com/football/...manent-manager

Warby no longer bookies favourite ! Boooo !

Depends which bookie you use.

***Jim44*** · 03-12-2015 04:18 PM

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Depends which bookie you use.

Pedant!

**steakbake** · 03-12-2015 04:54 PM

Folks should be trolling him with #handitin

***s.a.m*** · 03-12-2015 05:07 PM

From the BBC:

Former Rangers administrators lose appeal over court case delayPosted at 17:54
TWO men accused of alleged fraud involving Rangers Football Club have failed to overturn a decision which allowed prosecutors more time to bring the case to court.
Lawyers acting for David Whitehouse, 50, and Paul Clark, 51, argued that Sheriff Sean Murphy acted incorrectly earlier this year.

The sheriff, who sits at Glasgow Sheriff Court, gave the Crown three extra months to bring allegations to court last September.
Appeal judges Lord Carloway, Lord Bracadale and Lord Malcolm refused the appeal and ruled the sheriff acted correctly.
Prosecutors allege that the two men, who worked for Rangers administrators Duff and Phelps, broke the law during their involvement with the Glasgow side.
They are accused along with former Rangers owner Craig Whyte, 44, and ex-chief executive Charles Green, 62, as well as former club officials David Grier, 50, and Gary Withey, 51.
The six men are expected to stand trial in the coming weeks.

***greenginger*** · 03-12-2015 07:00 PM

JohnJames take on the Warby to Fulham story.

https://johnjamessite.wordpress.com/

Playing for maximum compensation .

***Jim44*** · 03-12-2015 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by greenginger

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JohnJames take on the Warby to Fulham story.

https://johnjamessite.wordpress.com/

Playing for maximum compensation .

I'd like him to be on the right tracks here but I suspect he is miles off the mark. Based on his comments over the past 48 hours and his refutal of the rumours on Reporting Scotland, I don't see Warburton going anywhere soon. If he is stringing folk along, he's giving an Oscar winning performance but if he makes a U turn and heads south, his chances of getting over the Kingston Bridge without getting strung up from it are negligible.

***Future17*** · 03-12-2015 07:35 PM

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He's not been approached by Fulham, because Fulham can negotiate via his agent.

Warburton just needs to submit a wish list of players that he knows will be rejected by Der Hun as too expensive - he can then ask to speak to Fulham because Sevco won't back him in the market. Job done.

Why would he need to manufacture such a situation? Sevco are either prepared to let him leave or they're not. Him submitting an unrealistic player wishlist wouldn't change a thing.

***O'Rourke3*** · 03-12-2015 09:03 PM

I hope he gets the wage rise. Less dosh to spend on players

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***jacomo*** · 04-12-2015 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Future17

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Why would he need to manufacture such a situation? Sevco are either prepared to let him leave or they're not. Him submitting an unrealistic player wishlist wouldn't change a thing.

If he wants out, he'll want to go with his head held high and a minimum of death threats from the hordes.

Likewise, it's possible that Rangers can be persuaded to release him in return for a tidy lump sum up front. But will have to dress it up as something else to avoid the hordes turning on them.

**WeeRussell** · 04-12-2015 11:24 AM

Reading also looking for a new gaffer now...

**brog** · 04-12-2015 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by greenginger

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JohnJames take on the Warby to Fulham story.

https://johnjamessite.wordpress.com/

Playing for maximum compensation .

Gordon Parks, an ex footballer who's more clued up than most journos , has broken ranks & is reporting pretty much the same in today's DR. The column is headed " Warbs' non-denial denial's nonsense, he's open to offers!" Even Keith Jackson has a pop! The cracks are finally showing!

***Ozyhibby*** · 04-12-2015 01:44 PM

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***Ozyhibby*** · 04-12-2015 02:38 PM

http://soccer.nbcsports.com/2015/12/...igible-player/

How things work in less corrupt countries.

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**ballengeich** · 04-12-2015 02:48 PM

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http://soccer.nbcsports.com/2015/12/...igible-player/

How things work in less corrupt countries.

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You don't have to look abroad for a recent relevant case. In the Scottish Juniors East Region last season Dundee club Downfield won the North division 3. It was found that they hadn't correctly reinstated a former SPFL player and 15 points were deducted even though it was an innocent administrative mistake, with no attempt to deceive anyone. This cost them not only their title, but the promotion awarded for second place. Makes you think eh?

***Smartie*** · 04-12-2015 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by ballengeich

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You don't have to look abroad for a recent relevant case. In the Scottish Juniors East Region last season Dundee club Downfield won the North division 3. It was found that they hadn't correctly reinstated a former SPFL player and 15 points were deducted even though it was an innocent administrative mistake, with no attempt to deceive anyone. This cost them not only their title, but the promotion awarded for second place. Makes you think eh?

I love that. Strict rule, strict punishment even if it is an honest mistake.

Acts as a proper deterrent in case anyone thinks they can pull a fast one.

Although with no Real Madrid I guess that spells armageddon for the Copa Del Rey?

**ancient hibee** · 04-12-2015 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Future17

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I agree working and living in London is probably more attractive to him than staying in Glasgow. Apparently his family have stayed down south and will not be moving here any time soon, so that could obviously be a big factor in any decision he is asked to make.

I don't think Warburton and Lennon are comparable, as Lennon had not worked in any non-playing positions in English football before and did not have the reputation at various levels that Warburton has. In fact, Lennon's reputation in England counted against him when it came to getting a top gig.

I'm not suggesting Warburton will be ever be offered anything better than the Fulham job; I just think it would be madness to walk away from a comparatively easy role for one which will be much harder and far less secure. In addition, financially, he probably wouldn't be offered that much more down there than he'll be offered to stay at Sevco.

Has he? Don't get me wrong, I thought he did a great job with Brentford, but their chairman didn't which is why his contract wasn't extended. And therein lies the rub. The English Championship is a league of intense pressure and, often, unrealistic expectations. The Mecca of the Premiership and the nature of the playoff system creates a situation where a manager is only really 4 or 5 bad results away from the sack at any time.

By my count, only nine of the 24 teams in that league have had their current manager for more than one season. Specifically, Fulham are not a model of managerial stability and there is no indication that their owner would give a new manager significant cash to spend in January.

There also must be a reason why three other managers have already said no.

He and his chairman fell out because the chairman wanted player recruitment to take place like the "moneyball" system -that is based on statistics.Warburton didn't agree.His good reputation there is based on most football folk thinking he achieved miracles despite having a numpty for a chairman.

***greenginger*** · 04-12-2015 03:35 PM

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Reading also looking for a new gaffer now...

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/...manent-manager

Warby at 33/1 for Reading,

Mind you, so is Stubbs !

***grunt*** · 04-12-2015 04:32 PM

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http://soccer.nbcsports.com/2015/12/...igible-player/

How things work in less corrupt countries.

I quite like the irreverent take on things from this blog https://theclumpany.wordpress.com/20...raught-scenes/

***jacomo*** · 04-12-2015 04:33 PM

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That's a fun snippet on a Friday afternoon.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 04-12-2015 06:52 PM

I think Ozy should follow this example :)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ng/description

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***Ozyhibby*** · 04-12-2015 07:28 PM

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I think Ozy should follow this example :)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ng/description

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Haha, he's already passed his funding target.
I think when someone decides to crowd fund a judicial review of the SFA's role in this, they will collect enough money over a weekend.

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***greenginger*** · 05-12-2015 08:26 AM

Maybe its a premiership manager job Warby has been waiting on.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/...manent-manager

10/11 on favourite for the next Swansea manager and there's not even a vacancy.