Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

[Gus Fring]

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Squads on wiki, also i did a count of squad players:

Hearts: 24
Hibs: 28

They cannot complain about quantity.

Remember the Under 20's squad are also eligible to play in the Premiership.

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The trasfer embargo to the 1st Feb over and above being unable to sign anyone whilst in admin was actually a sanction from the SFA not the SPFL.

You are correct of course.

[Keith_M]

Just thought I should write once again in defence of those of us that didn't vote in the poll in favour of them to be liquidated. Games like last night's are exactly the kind of thing I'd rather see than have them dissappear completely.


For those that want them to be liquidated; can you honestly say you did not enjoy the feeling of beating them at ER in front of a full house, knowing that this is likely to be the beginning of a long period of dominance over them?

[degenerated]

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I was trying to find out from my source whether BDO have been contacted about the damage yet and he doesn't think they have (doesn't mean they won't be). He did however say that everyones face is tripping them.

They also said their current plan is to "put pressure on the SPFL to lift the transfer embargo. It's going to be the dominant Hearts media obligations for the next few weeks. BDO have done their calculations and warned that Hearts in the 1st division is not a viable business as it stands"

Bizarre that they only claimed to be one short in their available subs last night yet prematch there were 20+ warming up. Do they think people can't count?

[Ozyhibby]

I know it been posted before but does anyone have the figures for what Hearts have spent compared to us since Romanov arrived?

[Sanger]

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I know it been posted before but does anyone have the figures for what Hearts have spent compared to us since Romanov arrived?

£70 million of debt versus £6 million for us

[Virginia Hibs]

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Bizarre that they only claimed to be one short in their available subs last night yet prematch there were 20+ warming up. Do they think people can't count?

Maybe they've only got the 17 strips left!

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[Jdawg]

Anything shed any light on this, not sure if its been mentioned before in this thread. The CVA is expected to go through in Feb/March 2014, however, if the issues with the transfer of shares isnt resolved do they stay in admin? If they are still in admin come end of season/start of next season are they deducted a further 15 points next season? Or is the punishment more severe i.e. they go down to the bottom league? On the other hand if they run out of cash and transfer of shares is not resolved BDO may have to liquidate?

[Kaiser1962]

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I know it been posted before but does anyone have the figures for what Hearts have spent compared to us since Romanov arrived?

Between season 2004-2005 and season 2011-2012 (cant see Yam figures for 2012-2013) Hearts spent £74.2m on wages as opposed to Hibs £34.1m. Hearts had an income for the period of £70m as opposed to Hibs £62.6m

Hibs posted profits for the period of £9.8m whilst Hearts posted losses of £33.8m. The picture is skewed a bit further as, in addition to the losses of £33.8m, Hearts were receipt of "debt forgiveness" from the unsuspecting Lituanians of £18.7m (£2m(2006) + £7.9m (2010)+ £8.8m (2011)). The accounts for 2012 also included a bizarre invoice to FBK for £2.9m which related to a breach of contract relating to the "potential transfer of five of the company's football players to FBK" with a further £380k "for the loan of two football players from the company to FBK"

All in all they have probably spent in the region of £125.9m as opposed to Hibs £52.8m.

This does not include the £22m dfe swaps.

[WindyMiller]

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Anything shed any light on this, not sure if its been mentioned before in this thread. The CVA is expected to go through in Feb/March 2014, however, if the issues with the transfer of shares isnt resolved do they stay in admin? YES If they are still in admin come end of season/start of next season are they deducted a further 15 points next season? YES Or is the punishment more severe i.e. they go down to the bottom league? On the other hand if they run out of cash and transfer of shares is not resolved BDO may have to liquidate?

Hope this helps.

[clerriehibs]

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Just thought I should write once again in defence of those of us that didn't vote in the poll in favour of them to be liquidated. Games like last night's are exactly the kind of thing I'd rather see than have them dissappear completely.


For those that want them to be liquidated; can you honestly say you did not enjoy the feeling of beating them at ER in front of a full house, knowing that this is likely to be the beginning of a long period of dominance over them?

aye, you're right, the ban must be lifted immediately and we all must petition david cameron to maintain homfc's position in the top echelon.

A wee tap on the wrists will suffice.

Their cheating, and denying us and other clubs their own successes is irrelevant if there's a chance of losing the Derby.

[Keith_M]

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aye, you're right, the ban must be lifted immediately and we all must petition david cameron to maintain homfc's position in the top echelon.

A wee tap on the wrists will suffice.

Their cheating, and denying us and other clubs their own successes is irrelevant if there's a chance of losing the Derby.

Where did I say that????

Never mind, you carry on putting words into other people's mouths.

[weonlywon6-2]

Na liquidate them,no interest in them

[Jdawg]

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Hope this helps.

cheers

[Weststandwanab]

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Just thought I should write once again in defence of those of us that didn't vote in the poll in favour of them to be liquidated. Games like last night's are exactly the kind of thing I'd rather see than have them dissappear completely.


For those that want them to be liquidated; can you honestly say you did not enjoy the feeling of beating them at ER in front of a full house, knowing that this is likely to be the beginning of a long period of dominance over them?

Spot on, I want more night like that...... preferably soon !

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Bizarre that they only claimed to be one short in their available subs last night yet prematch there were 20+ warming up. Do they think people can't count?

I think The Hear7s have proved some people cannot count

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Hope this helps.

Thank you.

[Eyrie]

Interesting and logical that a team in administration can't sign any new players.

So what happens if/when the Yams are still in administration come the summer? Presumably they'd be able to give a new deal to any out of contract players, but if the player turns that down and decides to leave, then can they be replaced on a one-for-one basis?

[Green Man]

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Interesting and logical that a team in administration can't sign any new players.

So what happens if/when the Yams are still in administration come the summer? Presumably they'd be able to give a new deal to any out of contract players, but if the player turns that down and decides to leave, then can they be replaced on a one-for-one basis?

They can renew contracts of players currently on their books but won't be able to bring anyone new in regardless of outgoings. It's a registration ban so they can't register anyone to play.

[...WentToMowAnSPL]

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They can renew contracts of players currently on their books but won't be able to bring anyone new in regardless of outgoings. It's a registration ban so they can't register anyone to play.

Can't they play trialists on the back of big payday loan deals if they exit administration ... Oh you really couldn't make it up

[Jim44]

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Just thought I should write once again in defence of those of us that didn't vote in the poll in favour of them to be liquidated. Games like last night's are exactly the kind of thing I'd rather see than have them dissappear completely.


For those that want them to be liquidated; can you honestly say you did not enjoy the feeling of beating them at ER in front of a full house, knowing that this is likely to be the beginning of a long period of dominance over them?

Why defend your corner when in effect you are in a majority and unfortunately you are almost certainly going to get the result you voted for. However your attempt to persuade the rest of us that liquidation is undesirable will probably fall on deaf ears as, if I can be presumptious enough to speak for others like me, we are so apalled and embittered by the extent of their arrogance, dishonesty, superior attitude and selfishness that anything short of extinction is too good for them. Who knows how far we can travel with TB, MM and SM, but there is no doubt in my mind that the journey will be any less sweet without the odious company of our Gorgie friends.

[Green Man]

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Can't they play trialists on the back of big payday loan deals if they exit administration ... Oh you really couldn't make it up

The trialist rules are all over the shop, as we saw with The Rangers this season. There are limits though.

[Eyrie]

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They can renew contracts of players currently on their books but won't be able to bring anyone new in regardless of outgoings. It's a registration ban so they can't register anyone to play.

Thanks for the good news.

Means that if they can't get out of administration by the summer then they'll have an even weaker squad in Division One next season as well as a further 15 point penalty. Division Two beckons

[Gus Fring]

I don't think trialists are permitted in the premiership?

[CropleyWasGod]

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Thanks for the good news.

Means that if they can't get out of administration by the summer then they'll have an even weaker squad in Division One next season as well as a further 15 point penalty. Division Two beckons

If they can't get out of administration by the summer I don't think that they will survive.

[Aldo]

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If they can't get out of administration by the summer I don't think that they will survive.

Yip that's sound pleasing.

Also They are in a catch 22 at the moment - if they sell during the window their squad becomes even more thread bare.
They don't sell - they could run out of wonga and thus be liquidated.

[Eyrie]

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If they can't get out of administration by the summer I don't think that they will survive.

That would be such a pity .....

[Ronniekirk]

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Na liquidate them,no interest in them

So you really didn't enjoy beating them last night and wouldn't like to see us go on and dominate them over the next few years racking up big wins . just a thought

[Aldo]

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So you really didn't enjoy beating them last night and wouldn't like to see us go on and dominate them over the next few years racking up big wins . just a thought

Liquidation has always been and always will be my preferred course of action.

To put it bluntly I want them totally and utterly wiped from the face of this earth.

PS I did enjoy last nite immensely.

[clerriehibs]

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Where did I say that????

Never mind, you carry on putting words into other people's mouths.

You want a long period of dominance over them; if they're relegated, we won't be dominating them. Dominance can only happen if they're in the same division as us. So you'd only get your wish once they were promoted again; and our results against any team in the top division is a pretty much mixed bag, no dominance over anyone, and that will include homfc if and when they get back up.

I assume to get your wish, you'd want them to somehow remain in our division, but in a parlous state. They're only going to have a chance of staying in the top division if all embargoes against them are lifted.

But please do explain how you see dominance over them being achieved.

[Col2]

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Liquidation has always been and always will be my preferred course of action.

To put it bluntly I want them totally and utterly wiped from the face of this earth.

PS I did enjoy last nite immensely.

Me too. Don't get me wrong they would return Sevco style but I want them to be punished and feel the pain for many many years to come. They NEED to understand the irony of 5-1 as being the catalyst for what REALLY killed them and not us.

[Hibbyradge]

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If they can't get out of administration by the summer I don't think that they will survive.

Why won't they be out of administration before then?

The CVA was accepted in November.

[whiskyhibby]

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Why won't they be out of administration before then?

The CVA was accepted in November.

The CVA was agreed subject to acceptance by the majority shareholders which has not been completed yet........