Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

[Phil D. Rolls]

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sorry been in the basement mixin' up the medicine all day....anyway you could say I gotta lotta nerve...

I wouldn't dream of saying it about The Beatles.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Clubs in the same league as Rangers don't get much TV money as the matches shown only involve Rangers. Hearts would play them 4 times maximum and would need everyone of those matches to be televised, which is unlikely as matches on TV at Ibrox are limited to 3.

There is no extra money for TV appearances given to the New Huns or anyone that features playing against them. It goes into a central pot and is distributed throughout the entire SPFL along with other central income (sponsorship etc) in 2 lumps: a fixed, equal amount to all clubs towards the start of the season and a second lump at the end of the season based on finishing position.

The winner of the "Championship" receives a good bit less than any of the "Premiership" clubs.

[Jack]

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On KB, they are saying that VW paid Wolsburgs costs, and that the Yams actually made 40 grand on the venture.

I'm sure if VW were paying we'd have heard about it before now. Add to that allisbarry fluffing his lines about how much they made when writing his fairy story.

Sounds very lupo to me.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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I'm sure if VW were paying we'd have heard about it before now. Add to that allisbarry fluffing his lines about how much they made when writing his fairy story.

Sounds very lupo to me.

Kind of thought that. Surely VW would want some exposure in return? How much did allisbarry say they'd made?

Sounds like there's a golf between facts and Yam figures.

[Gus Fring]

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I'm sure if VW were paying we'd have heard about it before now. Add to that allisbarry fluffing his lines about how much they made when writing his fairy story.

Sounds very lupo to me.

His article afterwards was the worst piece of spin I've ever seen. 6000 fans would be poor for an SPL match never mind a glamour friendly designed to help the club.

[Jack]

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Kind of thought that. Surely VW would want some exposure in return? How much did allisbarry say they'd made?

Sounds like there's a golf between facts and Yam figures.

Mr Allisbarry claimed it would take a while to work it all out but implied it went well IIRC

[lord bunberry]

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I'm not sure how you know or believe they're being run at a surplus. Even with the current exceptional circumstances, low or no wages & crowds up, they're still begging businesses to buy hospitality & I see no reason to doubt Bajillions when he says they're getting ready to sell half seasons now.
On a separate matter we must remember that F of H offer of £2.5m will be reduced by possibly as much as £1m to pay BDO fees. The Liths will have to be really desperate to accept £1.5/2.0m to get rid of that skanky lot. I also think HMRC may yet play a part. I can't imagine they're too happy at being shafted by their 2nd Scottish club in a couple of years.

They're not just getting ready to sell half season tickets they've already started selling them. They've got an advert on radio fourth, god knows how they can afford that.

[CyberSauzee]

If they need money it's about time they had their annual share issue. Whatever happened to those bloodied-turd coloured certificates from last year?

[Joy Zipper]

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I'm sure if VW were paying we'd have heard about it before now. Add to that allisbarry fluffing his lines about how much they made when writing his fairy story.

Sounds very lupo to me.

I think we may all be missing the point - the match wasn't only about raising funds. This is taken from Mr Southern via the HMFC website :-

""Additionally, we have now also made very good direct contacts with an excellent club in one of Europe's strongest leagues as well as welcoming a sizeable foreign media contingent which has increased the profile of Heart of Midlothian Football Club in Germany in the last few days."

Blah, blah, blah........

[Geo_1875]

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I think we may all be missing the point - the match wasn't only about raising funds. This is taken from Mr Southern via the HMFC website :-

""Additionally, we have now also made very good direct contacts with an excellent club in one of Europe's strongest leagues as well as welcoming a sizeable foreign media contingent which has increased the profile of Heart of Midlothian Football Club in Germany in the last few days."

Blah, blah, blah........

They're probably touting themselves around Europe as the best group of youngsters in Scotland, probably Britain, and all for sale in January.

[dangermouse]

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Is it possible that relegation will not be the financial disaster we envisage? Hibs had amazing attendances in D1, the combination of something to genuinely challenge for, and winning every week had the fans turning out.

Given that Sevco, can get TV money whatever division they are in, Yamco could surely get a cut of that as well.

I think relegation will only really be disastrous if they are skint and can't pay anymore than the likes of Falkirk, or Dundee. The last time they were on the big adventure, they were potless, but I'm starting to fear that this time, they may have a bit more scope..

How much will they have to play with? Some Yams are still talking about avoiding the drop.



On KB, they are saying that VW paid Wolsburgs costs, and that the Yams actually made 40 grand on the venture.

Urban Myth apparently. I'm sure someone will be along shortly with the figures to back this up.

[nribs]

How much does it cost to run the undersoil heating? C'mon the frost :)

[Bostonhibby]

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I think we may all be missing the point - the match wasn't only about raising funds. This is taken from Mr Southern via the HMFC website :-

""Additionally, we have now also made very good direct contacts with an excellent club in one of Europe's strongest leagues as well as welcoming a sizeable foreign media contingent which has increased the profile of Heart of Midlothian Football Club in Germany in the last few days."

Blah, blah, blah........

Aye, there must have been an enormous press pack and hundreds of TV vans parked in their stolen car park paying a tenner a head!

Why would the "media" turn up in any great numbers to a meaningless friendly against Wolfsburg reserves?

Those who did turn up would have been hugely impressed by the mighty Wongadome and it will be spoken about round the world I am sure. Interesting that the "links" referred to are not actually defined.

Why would any decent foreign club align itself there?-the whiff of Romanov will be around the place for years and this is a club forever associated with employing paedophiles, stealing from charities, a shameful list of creditors, fans who rip off their own fans, fans who steal from their own charities.....

Or is it the attraction of them being sponsored by a money lending pariah that has been attacked for its methods by Church leaders? All great stuff if your club has a positive image and plays within the rules..............I could go on.

Romanov may have gone but we should be grateful Southern is still there doing his bit.

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Mr Allisbarry claimed it would take a while to work it all out but implied it went well IIRC

Don't see how, all they have to do is add up all the cash received on the night and there's the total. Its not as if they will be paying anything out to anyone, all suppliers and the cops, HMRC and the council will have unknowingly been donating their services free again.

[Fife-Hibee]

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How much does it cost to run the undersoil heating? C'mon the frost :)

Do they have undersoil heating ?

[lapsedhibee]

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Do they have undersoil heating ?

Plugged into a light socket though, so won't cost that much to run. 40w for the winter = £25.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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Plugged into a light socket though, so won't cost that much to run. 40w for the winter = £25.

For even bigger savings visit our website - bumpyoursuppliers.com.

You have to stop thinking like a Hobo. :)

[Pretty Boy]

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Urban Myth apparently. I'm sure someone will be along shortly with the figures to back this up.

It is indeed.

We had a couple of fantastic attendances of 14K+. The trophy presentation day, new year v Raith and a game v Falkirk that put us about 12 points clear by winning.

The average for the season was just over 8500 though.

[MB62]

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It now looks about 95 per cent certain the cva will be approved and Hmfc will be out of admin by the end of this season, with a debt of circa 4 million and probably playing in the championship.

The idea they won't come back up is fanciful though.

What I don't understand is why a company or companies, which are due £15m in debt, would accept a CVA for £2.5m when the could quite easily almost double that by selling an asset they control, the ground. This is certainly not looking after their own creditors best interest in Lithland so why on earth would they accept it.

As for hearts coming straight back up, they have already failed in the past to do that when they were in a far better financial state than they are now so there is nothing certain in life.

[jacomo]

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I think we may all be missing the point - the match wasn't only about raising funds. This is taken from Mr Southern via the HMFC website :-

""Additionally, we have now also made very good direct contacts with an excellent club in one of Europe's strongest leagues as well as welcoming a sizeable foreign media contingent which has increased the profile of Heart of Midlothian Football Club in Germany in the last few days."

Blah, blah, blah........

Not forgetting of course the ceremony beforehand where the Germans apologised for all that war business and presented a special medal for defeating tyranny. Angela Merkel expressed sincerest apologies for missing the occasion.

[Jim44]

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What I don't understand is why a company or companies, which are due £15m in debt, would accept a CVA for £2.5m when the could quite easily almost double that by selling an asset they control, the ground. This is certainly not looking after their own creditors best interest in Lithland so why on earth would they accept it.

Apparently they are likely to accept, however. What gets me is that all the creditors who are going to get zilch will probably still be supplying goods and services to the thieves as if nothing had happened. If they do, they deserve to get stung.

[MrSmith]

When did this friendly happen? Asking cos I live next to the ground and can't recall anything of note happening recently??

[brog]

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It is indeed.

We had a couple of fantastic attendances of 14K+. The trophy presentation day, new year v Raith and a game v Falkirk that put us about 12 points clear by winning.

The average for the season was just over 8500 though.

Not true I'm afraid. We actually never had a league attendance lower than 8.6k & we only had 3 attendances under 9k. As you say we had 3 attendances of 14k+, 1 of nearly 13k & 2 others over 10k, giving an average of a smidgeon under 11k.
I think the point most people make when referring to that season is there were probably more Hibs fans attending ER than in seasons when attendances were higher due to us playing Yams, OF, Dons etc. Despite those excellent numbers though there's no doubt Yams will suffer financially in the 2nd tier & I think promotion will be a real struggle. They've played 2 championship teams this season & drew with both over 120 mins, I don't see why that would change next season.

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What I don't understand is why a company or companies, which are due £15m in debt, would accept a CVA for £2.5m when the could quite easily almost double that by selling an asset they control, the ground. This is certainly not looking after their own creditors best interest in Lithland so why on earth would they accept it.

As for hearts coming straight back up, they have already failed in the past to do that when they were in a far better financial state than they are now so there is nothing certain in life.

I agree with both comments 100%. If you see my post #31592 above you'll note the CVA will actually net less than £2m & possibly as low as £1.5m. Just imagine if the situation was reversed & a Lithuanian football team were shafting Scottish financial institutions. I'm sure there would be an outcry with our political Yams leading the charge!

[silverhibee]

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How much does it cost to run the undersoil heating? C'mon the frost :)

Never mind under soil heating, where are the tramps getting the money to pay Forth One to advertise games and ticket sales for upcoming games.


F*** the h*****

[Aldo]

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It is indeed. We had a couple of fantastic attendances of 14K+. The trophy presentation day, new year v Raith and a game v Falkirk that put us about 12 points clear by winning. The average for the season was just over 8500 though.

PB

Highest attendance was 14,801
Lowest attendance was 8649

Our average was 10,433

Down 1592 from the previous season.

[Liberal Hibby]

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PB

Highest attendance was 14,801
Lowest attendance was 8649

Our average was 10,433

Down 1592 from the previous season.

Yup and we lost a couple of mill if I recall correctly. Lower TV revenue and cheaper tickets adding to the fall in gates.

[Ozyhibby]

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PB

Highest attendance was 14,801
Lowest attendance was 8649

Our average was 10,433

Down 1592 from the previous season.

Another myth knocked on the head.

[MB62]

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Yup and we lost a couple of mill if I recall correctly. Lower TV revenue and cheaper tickets adding to the fall in gates.

We were asked to pay the same as we had done the previous season to allow the manager to buy players and help the club, so ticket prices were not reduced when we dropped down a division.

[Waxy]

Remember getting beat by Stranraer 2-1 at ER. Think it was our first home game since going down, they scored a corker and i remember feeling an all time low as a hibby at that point.Thankfully it didn't get any worse and we cruised back up.

[PatHead]

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Another myth knocked on the head.

Until it is quoted again next time..........

[jgl07]

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PB

Highest attendance was 14,801
Lowest attendance was 8649

Our average was 10,433

Down 1592 from the previous season.

The reduction in crowds from the relegation season can largely be explained by lack of away supporters. In the Premier Division there would have been around six matches with a (largely) full visitors end (Rangers, Celtic and Hearts) and two others against Aberdeen with good visiting number then. By comparison few First Division visitors brought more than a hundred or so.

The home supporters attending was probably much higher than Hibs are getting at the moment.