Hearts bump HWU for training ground rent (merged)

[Golden Bear]

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Off topic but I think I know one of the kids in question here. Talented laddie who'd love to train at hibs but his dad (who I work with) can't get him to EM in time for midweek training due to work and commute from Linlithgow.

I'm pro EM and there's no reason, in my mind, to even think about us using the HW facility in future but Riccarton is certainly much easier to get to for parents residing in the central belt.

It could be swings and roundabouts though as East Mains may well be a better location for kids on the east side of the city or even the north east of England.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Off topic but I think I know one of the kids in question here. Talented laddie who'd love to train at hibs but his dad (who I work with) can't get him to EM in time for midweek training due to work and commute from Linlithgow.

I'm pro EM and there's no reason, in my mind, to even think about us using the HW facility in future but Riccarton is certainly much easier to get to for parents residing in the central belt.

Is this not why we have satellite locations? Plus are we not considering having a teaching facility on site?

[Jack]

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They're not allowed to pay back HWU.

Sorry I can't remember if I mentioned this here or the Bounce, doesn't matter anyway as I can't remember if there was an answer.

What's to stop HWU upping the rent post administration to recover some or all of the money lost as a result of administration?

[Part/Time Supporter]

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Sorry I can't remember if I mentioned this here or the Bounce, doesn't matter anyway as I can't remember if there was an answer.

What's to stop HWU upping the rent post administration to recover some or all of the money lost as a result of administration?

Nothing, except Hearts would probably refuse to pay it and would find alternative facilities. They're looking to cut the rent / lease cost as it is.

[Jim44]

Despite being shafted by the Jambos, I'm sure that HWU will be desperate in the longer term to keep HoMFC at Riccarton. Their dirty money, as and when they deign to pay their rent, will be seen as better than little or none at all. The ****b@gs will no doubt land on their feet yet again. :-(

[renato]

Not sure re minibus / car pooling potential as presume this would have been suggested as an option, if the scout felt it was viable.

Also training facilities were offered at EM only so not sure if Hibs operate via other satellite locations, specifically in West Lothian / Stirlingshire region?

I guess it's a difficult choice for parents who are keen to see their kid(s) given the opportunity to develop potential, especially with an SPL club, but having to balance work / family commitments and of course a location that's viable, given these constraints.

[#FromTheCapital]

@BBCBMcLauchlin: BDO reach amicable arrangement with Heriot-Watt that will allow Hearts to continue with full use of Riccarton campus facilities#bbcsportscot

[clerriehibs]

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@BBCBMcLauchlin: BDO reach amicable arrangement with Heriot-Watt that will allow Hearts to continue with full use of Riccarton campus facilities#bbcsportscot

The filth get lucky. Are HWU obliged to divulge if asked?

[Bishop Hibee]

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@BBCBMcLauchlin: BDO reach amicable arrangement with Heriot-Watt that will allow Hearts to continue with full use of Riccarton campus facilities#bbcsportscot

Just saw that tweet. I feel the need for a Freedom of information letter from one of our esteemed posters coming on. It does worry me that the cooncil may try to reach 'an amicable settlement' over a new stadium. Hertz, a club that knows no shame.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

A big GIRUY to us Hobos indeed, no shame at all. I suppose this GIRUY extends to them shafting the Poppy Fund and their own charity.

It wasn't so long ago they unleashed faux outrage on us for laughing at them going into admin and staff being made redundant. Now they can barely contain their one-upmanship at the expense of local businesses and charities.

[#FromTheCapital]

A minor victory for the filth. Much bigger problems still ahead for them, the main one being will they still exist in a few months? No point in having training facilities if there's no team to make use of them.

[Crazyhorse]

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@BBCBMcLauchlin: BDO reach amicable arrangement with Heriot-Watt that will allow Hearts to continue with full use of Riccarton campus facilities#bbcsportscot

Does that mean they will pay what HW demanded?

[clerriehibs]

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Does that mean they will pay what HW demanded?

No, it means they'll continue to pay **** all.

[Eternal Hibbie]

What difference does it make if they still train there ?

It never has belonged to them, never will belong to them, let the deluded clowns believe they have a training facility like the other big teams.

There must be some kind of guarantee in their new lease to ensure they pay their rent this time around for as long as they are around.

We have our own, bought and paid for, they can only dream.

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[steakbake]

I've missed something here - where's Sidney?

[21.05.2016]

****ing rank rotten, smug, disgusting, moral less club with absolutely NO shame as they continue to keep proving! When is this absolute joke of a club going to finally stop getting away with their cons! Should have been wiped from the face of the earth long long ago!

[Spike Mandela]

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The filth get lucky. Are HWU obliged to divulge if asked?

Luck has nothing to do with it. Political and council leverage, not to mention the cheats charter of administration more likely the reason.

what does this actually mean.........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24134954

Are they paying, less, the same, deferring payment or what. It stinks to high heaven.

[Crazyhorse]

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Luck has nothing to do with it. Political and council leverage, not to mention the cheats charter of administration more likely the reason.

what does this actually mean.........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24134954

Are they paying, less, the same, deferring payment or what. It stinks to high heaven.

Maybe Yams/BDO just folded and agreed to pay the price that was originally agreed?

[MB62]

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Luck has nothing to do with it. Political and council leverage, not to mention the cheats charter of administration more likely the reason.

what does this actually mean.........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24134954

Are they paying, less, the same, deferring payment or what. It stinks to high heaven.

I have absolutely NO DOUBT in my mind that this lot are being protected by political means, either fair or foul. However, if our politicians can get away Scot free with squandering £750m of our money on trams that were never needed, then protecting this lot should be a breeze for them

[CyberSauzee]

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Luck has nothing to do with it. Political and council leverage, not to mention the cheats charter of administration more likely the reason.

what does this actually mean.........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24134954

Are they paying, less, the same, deferring payment or what. It stinks to high heaven.

From reading this:

http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl/hearts-get-riccarton-training-complex-boost-1-3098432

"The new terms have not been disclosed, but BDO are content that the benefits of the training centre outweigh the costs involved."

Indicates to me little or even no change to the original agreement.

[Ozyhibby]

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From reading this:

http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...oost-1-3098432

"The new terms have not been disclosed, but BDO are content that the benefits of the training centre outweigh the costs involved."

Indicates to me little or even no change to the original agreement.

I had heard that they were told to take it or leave it and they decided to take it.

[Jim44]

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I had heard that they were told to take it or leave it and they decided to take it.

Ah, but who was told to take it or leave it? If the Jambos were looking for a big reduction they might have forced HWU's hand as, all things being equal (yes I accept they are not currently equal) guaranteed income from the Jambos (when they pay it) is better than none at all. I'm disappointed that after being shafted by the Jambos, HWU didn't tell them to take a run and a jump but it looks like they have no principles or moral fibre ......................... they deserve each other.

[Mikey]

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Ah, but who was told to take it or leave it? If the Jambos were looking for a big reduction they might have forced HWU's hand as, all things being equal (yes I accept they are not currently equal) guaranteed income from the Jambos (when they pay it) is better than none at all. I'm disappointed that after being shafted by the Jambos, HWU didn't tell them to take a run and a jump but it looks like they have no principles or moral fibre ......................... they deserve each other.

Bearing in mind how reluctant they were to provide info requested under the FOI act I'd imagine the place is packed full of yams and yam sympathisers. It's no surprise at all that they would cut them a deal that suits.

[greenpaper55]

If the new complex is to be built at rickety then why would HW need the cheats money ?, it might have been a case of take it or leave it from HW.

[scoopyboy]

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No, it means they'll continue to pay **** all.

Would it not mean that now they will have to pay the agreed rental figure?

I thought BDO have a duty to pay the bills as from the date they were called in.

If they haven't been paying their rent in the past then surely it is bad news for them that they are now having to pay for something they previously got for brussel sprout (albeit by cheating).

[Baader]

Wouldn't want to be paying any tuition fees for any course at Heriot Watt...

[robinp]

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Wouldn't want to be paying any tuition fees for any course at Heriot Watt...

Try to negotiate your first year fees are written off on the basis you WILL pay 50% of the fees you are due in the following 2 or 3 years of study on time? See what they say.

[clerriehibs]

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Try to negotiate your first year fees are written off on the basis you WILL pay 50% of the fees you are due in the following 2 or 3 years of study on time? See what they say.

Or to be just as fair as the homfc deal, you'll pay fees only if you graduate.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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What's the chances of this....Alex salmond promised HWU would get the world class centre in return for hwu not chasing the yams debt.....

Was this a serious question?

[Robinho08]

The tramps should be back training on public parks.