Hearts bump HWU for training ground rent (merged)

[Biggie]

What's the chances of this....Alex salmond promised HWU would get the world class centre in return for hwu not chasing the yams debt.....

[Pete]

It's all turning a bit celticish.

[Golden Bear]

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It's all turning a bit celticish.

Maybe so but the whole saga stinks from top to bottom and there's a story in there for any investigative journalist worth his salt.

It won't happen though and that is the really sad bit.

[Iggy Pope]

This world class centre. Is it likely to be complete 10 years late and about 50 squillion over budget like two other notable Edinburgh landmark projects?

[Spike Mandela]

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It's all turning a bit celticish.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't talking about you.

[Pete]

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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't talking about you.

That's fine. As long as the hearts minions don't come after me...

[Kato]

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It's all turning a bit celticish.

Maybe so. As Spike says above paranoia doesn't preclude the idea that bias exists.

Maybe you could list points of even-handedness in the dealings between Hibs, Hearts and our City's leaders.

[Pete]

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Maybe so. As Spike says above paranoia doesn't preclude the idea that bias exists.

Maybe you could list points of even-handedness in the dealings between Hibs, Hearts and our City's leaders.

Hey, don't get me wrong. I agree that there is an engrained culture of bias towards hearts within the council. It was a response made in jest to other posts (probably made in jest) suggesting anti-catholic bias and dodgy deals involving big Eck. That's a bit much in my opinion.

You'd be a fool not to look at all this, especially with the personnel involved, and wonder if anything fishy is going on. These things can snowball though and before you know it people are believing all sorts of cloak and dagger stuff is going on when it probably isn't.

We'll have to wait and see what happens now regarding a new fritzl dome, meadowbank and what councillors/politicians are throwing their weight behind it.

[Kato]

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Hey, don't get me wrong. I agree that there is an engrained culture of bias towards hearts within the council. It was a response made in jest to other posts (probably made in jest) suggesting anti-catholic bias and dodgy deals involving big Eck. That's a bit much in my opinion.

You'd be a fool not to look at all this, especially with the personnel involved, and wonder if anything fishy is going on. These things can snowball though and before you know it people are believing all sorts of cloak and dagger stuff is going on when it probably isn't.

We'll have to wait and see what happens now regarding a new fritzl dome, meadowbank and what councillors/politicians are throwing their weight behind it.

[Spike Mandela]

BDO considering moving away from Riccarton training ground according to Radio Scotland.

HWU 'playing hardball' aparently by wanting Hearts to honour a contract. Beggars belief!

[Oscar T Grouch]

So BDO saying the merricks might be leaving riccarton, cannae afford the costs.

Porty beach then?

[gogsy23]

As above costs around 400/500k per year bdo looking to negociate on this but hwu playing hard ball.

Dont panic folks the end is neigh......

[s.a.m]

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As above costs around 400/500k per year bdo looking to negociate on this but hwu playing hard ball.

Dont panic folks the end is neigh......

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[Bostonhibby]

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So BDO saying the merricks might be leaving riccarton, cannae afford the costs.

Porty beach then?

Cannae see it, there's a thread on one of the Porty websites where they are already up in arms about there being so many turds on the beach.

[kaimendhibs]

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Cannae see it, there's a thread on one of the Porty websites where they are already up in arms about there being so many turds on the beach.

Ha ha


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[Oscar T Grouch]

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Cannae see it, there's a thread on one of the Porty websites where they are already up in arms about there being so many turds on the beach.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Having glanced at their respective thread on JKB, they show no sign of any compassion for those they have shafted. It's a get it right up the hobos fest. But then, I wouldn't expect any less from a group of fans who show no remorse for their club systematically ripping off charities left, right and centre and delivering cringeworthy tales of one upmanship on winning a war when they rob and steal from the poppy fund that supports it. They're quite disgusting as a club and as a set of fans.

No wonder they're labelled mini-huns.

[07hibee]

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So BDO saying the merricks might be leaving riccarton, cannae afford the costs.

Porty beach then?

Pleasing ! Lol

[greenpaper55]

Canny afford it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24092299

[portycabbage]

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So BDO saying the merricks might be leaving riccarton, cannae afford the costs.

Porty beach then?

What the f***'s wrong with saughton park then!?! Or if it has to be down this end of town there's the dump or the sewage works at seafield!

[clerriehibs]

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Canny afford it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24092299

It's just BDO setting out a negotiating position. Sounds like they're currently still paying nowt though.

[Jack]

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It's just BDO setting out a negotiating position. Sounds like they're currently still paying nowt though.

I doubt it. There was a lot of chat early doors about BDO securing important suppliers I would suspect HW to be one of them. I really dont think having already been shafted they'd roll over at let it continue.

[PatHead]

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BDO considering moving away from Riccarton training ground according to Radio Scotland.

HWU 'playing hardball' aparently by wanting Hearts to honour a contract. Beggars belief!

Funnily enough I heard that yesterday and that they were moving to Spartans for a nominal rent and a friendly with the Hearts first team. Dismissed it as mischief making at the time. HW had got fed up with bad press and actually now did want paid. Take it this is BDO trying to cut costs further or get the New Hearts ready for their new stadium On a slightly different topic who paid for the Spartans ground/set up?

[Waxy]

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Funnily enough I heard that yesterday and that they were moving to Spartans for a nominal rent and a friendly with the Hearts first team. Dismissed it as mischief making at the time. HW had got fed up with bad press and actually now did want paid. Take it this is BDO trying to cut costs further or get the New Hearts ready for their new stadium On a slightly different topic who paid for the Spartans ground/set up?

They wont like training in north Edinburgh.

[Seveno]

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Funnily enough I heard that yesterday and that they were moving to Spartans for a nominal rent and a friendly with the Hearts first team. Dismissed it as mischief making at the time. HW had got fed up with bad press and actually now did want paid. Take it this is BDO trying to cut costs further or get the New Hearts ready for their new stadium On a slightly different topic who paid for the Spartans ground/set up?

Last season, they used Spartans ground for a while for training but couldn't afford to pay them. They offered a friendly at Spartans instead with all gate money going to Spartans. The match was played towards the end of the season.

[The Tubs]

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Canny afford it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24092299

If they've been spending 400k per annum on the rent over 10 years, then East Mains sounds a good deal. That's what a good credit rating does for you.

[jgl07]

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£150k is a lot of money for a University to be losing that is for sure. It would be interesting to know the terms of this debt and for how long they have not been paying it.

It is not really losing money because if Hearts had gone bust years ago they would have received bugger all. If Heriot-Watt evicted Hearts once they failed to pay it would have produced no more money.

It would only have been lost if there was someone else to whom the facilities could be rented to. Hibs are hardly likely to want to rent the place, neither are the SRU. So it was either Hearts or no-one.

Hearts' rent was effectively windfall income for Heriot-Watt some of which never materialized.

[greenginger]

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It is not really losing money because if Hearts had gone bust years ago they would have received bugger all. If Heriot-Watt evicted Hearts once they failed to pay it would have produced no more money.

It would only have been lost if there was someone else to whom the facilities could be rented to. Hibs are hardly likely to want to rent the place, neither are the SRU. So it was either Hearts or no-one.

Hearts' rent was effectively windfall income for Heriot-Watt some of which never materialized.

Yeah, but it still cost H W. for the lecky for lights, hot water and the the cleaning after that manky mob .

[s.a.m]

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It is not really losing money because if Hearts had gone bust years ago they would have received bugger all. If Heriot-Watt evicted Hearts once they failed to pay it would have produced no more money.

It would only have been lost if there was someone else to whom the facilities could be rented to. Hibs are hardly likely to want to rent the place, neither are the SRU. So it was either Hearts or no-one.

Hearts' rent was effectively windfall income for Heriot-Watt some of which never materialized.

I may well be wrong, but were Hearts not meant to joint builders and owners of the facility, but they eventually couldn't afford to do that. The rent is in lieu of their share of the development

[cocopops1875]

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If they've been spending 400k per annum on the rent over 10 years, then East Mains sounds a good deal. That's what a good credit rating does for you.

Just out of interest how do you arrive at this conclusion ? We paid whatever to build EM then a running cost of more than hearts pay rent so we are not exactly getting a great deal in comparison