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[Gatecrasher]

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Pittsburgh 16-13 Kansas City (OT)

AFC North

Baltimore 7-2
Pittsburgh 6-3
Cincinnati 4-5
Cleveland 2-7

AFC West

Denver 6-3
San Diego 4-5
Oakland 3-6
Kansas City 1-8

have you got the new BCS Standings after Alabama got beat?

[Sylar]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs

Alabama are down to fourth with Kansas State topping the BCS rankings, followed by Oregon then Notre Dame.

[Gatecrasher]

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http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs

Alabama are down to fourth with Kansas State topping the BCS rankings, followed by Oregon then Notre Dame.

Thanks TSSF

I was on a restrictive work Internet when i posted, Do you think Kansas can go all the way? I haven't seen them play though i hear their QB is top notch.

[Sylar]

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Thanks TSSF

I was on a restrictive work Internet when i posted, Do you think Kansas can go all the way? I haven't seen them play though i hear their QB is top notch.

I'll be honest, I've no idea! I've hardly seen Michigan this year, let alone a lot of the other schools

[Haymaker]

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I'll be honest, I've no idea! I've hardly seen Michigan this year, let alone a lot of the other schools

Is this what married life does to you? Stops you watching football?!

[Sylar]

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Is this what married life does to you? Stops you watching football?!

With my wife, not likely! She loves football as much as me!

This is what trying to finish a PhD does to you - I'm frantically trying to finish so only allow myself one day off a week at the moment - that day is Sunday!

[HibsMax]

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Pittsburgh 16-13 Kansas City (OT)

AFC North

Baltimore 7-2
Pittsburgh 6-3
Cincinnati 4-5
Cleveland 2-7

AFC West

Denver 6-3
San Diego 4-5
Oakland 3-6
Kansas City 1-8

Man, how bad is Matt Cassel? I benched Jamaal Charles but he did good last night and gives me a lot of confidence moving forwards but unless the Chiefs can sort out their QB situation then Charles' participation could be limited if they are constantly playing from behind.

[DH1875]

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2 guys talking in the studio now on the monday nigt bbc coverage at last something better than the annoying music

Shame about the sets though . The porn music used to do my nut in. Not because it was crap but because the Mrs would often wake up during the night shouting down the stairs to get that crap off .

[NOLA]

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Shame about the sets though . The porn music used to do my nut in. Not because it was crap but because the Mrs would often wake up during the night shouting down the stairs to get that crap off .

aye it was like some bad norwegian elevator music still surprised they managed to get Andy Dalton to cohost the show

[DH1875]

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Is this what married life does to you? Stops you watching football?!

The wife's got more sense. Who wants to spend their weekend watching U-M

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With my wife, not likely! She loves football as much as me!

This is what trying to finish a PhD does to you - I'm frantically trying to finish so only allow myself one day off a week at the moment - that day is Sunday!

Remember and keep the 24th free though. That way the wife will get to see a proper football team .

[Sylar]

According to reports, the Jessie mutiny against Tebow is well and truly underway!

[hibsbollah]

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According to reports, the Jessie mutiny against Tebow is well and truly underway!

I feel sorry for Tebow. He's a unique talent, and despite his flaws took a poor Broncos team to the playoffs last season when he had no real right to. He just needs a coach and a system that works with him. Both Sanchez and Tebow have been undermined by the Jets organisation IMO, it's all a bit of a mess.

[Sylar]

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I feel sorry for Tebow. He's a unique talent, and despite his flaws took a poor Broncos team to the playoffs last season when he had no real right to. He just needs a coach and a system that works with him. Both Sanchez and Tebow have been undermined by the Jets organisation IMO, it's all a bit of a mess.

I agree. It was a bad move for him especially as his alternative would have been to have remained in Denver and learned from one of the true greats of the game. He would maybe have sacrificed a year or so not playing regularly, but Peyton isn't going to be playing for much longer with his age/injury risk (though they said the same about Favre).

Instead, he's stuck in a thankless hole where the starting QB is nowhere near good enough to "mentor" him and evidently the Jets coaching staff aren't capable/interested/willing to try and develop him. It's a farce some of the positions he's been deployed in this season.

I still don't get the motivation behind signing him and I still don't get why he thought it was a good idea. He needs to get out of New York promptly as he's going to rot there whilst the Jets continue to back one of the poorest starting QBs in the league.

[Gatecrasher]

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I feel sorry for Tebow. He's a unique talent, and despite his flaws took a poor Broncos team to the playoffs last season when he had no real right to. He just needs a coach and a system that works with him. Both Sanchez and Tebow have been undermined by the Jets organisation IMO, it's all a bit of a mess.

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I agree. It was a bad move for him especially as his alternative would have been to have remained in Denver and learned from one of the true greats of the game. He would maybe have sacrificed a year or so not playing regularly, but Peyton isn't going to be playing for much longer with his age/injury risk (though they said the same about Favre).

Instead, he's stuck in a thankless hole where the starting QB is nowhere near good enough to "mentor" him and evidently the Jets coaching staff aren't capable/interested/willing to try and develop him. It's a farce some of the positions he's been deployed in this season.

I still don't get the motivation behind signing him and I still don't get why he thought it was a good idea. He needs to get out of New York promptly as he's going to rot there whilst the Jets continue to back one of the poorest starting QBs in the league.

I agree with both posts, He will be best leaving there and going somewhere where he will get some game time. IMO there are worse QB's than him going about

[James.]

First off, there's no way Tebow was staying in Denver - Elway, rightly, didn't rate him. Secondly, the Jets' issues this year run much deeper than the quarterback position. I still rate Sanchez and I feel under the right circumstances he can be a successful QB for us in the future. You don't take your team to two AFC championship games and 4 road playoff victories if you're one of the leagues poorest quarterbacks. Unfortunately his play and his confidence has been absolutely shot to bits by injuries to key players like Holmes and Keller, the ridiculous offensive packages that Sporano has brought in and this notion that Tebow should be on the field every few snaps too. The whole Tebow mess has been predictable and its obvious that he's only here under the whim of Woody Johnson.

[Haymaker]

Tebow is clearly not good enough - I will grant him the fact he did well in Denver briefly but a few good games doesnt make a Quarterback (look at Matt Cassel!) He had Kyle Orton ranked ahead of him in Denver!

He needs a lot of work but he isnt anywhere he can develop and also the media wont let him develop! This "Tebow-mania" is a big problem, every day I watch sports center and they will have some debate on Tebow as if the Jets are keeping a Peyton, Brady or Eli on the bench rather than a guy who threw for 22 yards!

He should move to Jacksonville and let the organisation build around him. I have to admit, the man is taking it all very well and appearing to just get on with work - I probably wouldnt be all smiles and be nice if I were in his shoes.

[James.]

Wee bit of fun for anyone who is interested. How many schools can you identify in this?

[hibsbollah]

I did a little accumulator again for tomorrows games, I was astonished the Pats are NINE point favourites over the Colts The way Luck is playing id expect a close game.

[Gatecrasher]

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I did a little accumulator again for tomorrows games, I was astonished the Pats are NINE point favourites over the Colts The way Luck is playing id expect a close game.

I'm sure the Pats will win but i'm not sure about the 9 points with their D.

Michigan just went 14-7 up on Iowa on ESPN America

[Gatecrasher]

28-10 to Michigan at HT.

Big Ten Championship game for the Wolverines? They will need to beat the Buckeyes first

Update: Nice easy win for Michigan 42-17 over Iowa

[Gatecrasher]

Oregon and kansas lost last night leaving it open for Notre Dame to be number 1 and possibly Alabama in the championship game

[HibsMax]

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I'm sure the Pats will win but i'm not sure about the 9 points with their D.

Michigan just went 14-7 up on Iowa on ESPN America

Secondary is bad but the run D is pretty good. Now with Talib, who knows? Hoping for big things.

[NOLA]

jaguars leading the texans 27-17 + the Browns beating the cowgirls 13 - 0

[James.]

Wow, Jacksonville are having some day! Another interception! Henne and Blackmon have been very impressive too. Good game going on in Detroit - despite some sloppy play you can't count out that Stafford-Megatron combo

[Gatecrasher]

nervy game but just got there in the end, What has happened to Crosby? he would make most of those in his sleep this time last year.

[James.]

What a play from Freeman! Bucs need a 2 point conversion to tie

and they manage it!

Nice to see Indy putting New England in their place early - just like the good old days!

[Sylar]

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What a play from Freeman! Bucs need a 2 point conversion to tie

and they manage it!

Nice to see Indy putting New England in their place early - just like the good old days!

One win against a piss-poor Rams side and you're back crowing I see

Neither side look particularly great here but I did expect the Colts to leave here with a win.

[Sylar]

Lovely punt return from Edelman! 14-14 in Foxborough

[Sylar]

Talib comes up with the 6-pick!

[Haymaker]

Patriots game is great so far!