Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[HibeeDave]

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While they are in administration, I am sure that the administrator will wield their vote.

Would the administrators job not be finished by the time to vote on the newly created Rangers looking for entry? Therefore they would not have a vote.

Don't count on Hearts voting for them either, do they not stand to lose out on the balance from Lee Wallaces transfer fee?

[soupy]

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Anyone else hear the rubbish being spouted on talk sport just now? Scottish football should help rangers in their time of need

Aye, thum, a load o tripe...

[Smidge]

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Would the administrators job not be finished by the time to vote on the newly created Rangers looking for entry? Therefore they would not have a vote.

Don't count on Hearts voting for them either, do they not stand to lose out on the balance from Lee Wallaces transfer fee?

No, don't think so as it is likely to be a condition of any deal to bring them out of administration or for someone acquiring the assets in liquidation that there is a continuation of SPL membership.

[Twa Cairpets]

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Would the administrators job not be finished by the time to vote on the newly created Rangers looking for entry? Therefore they would not have a vote.

Don't count on Hearts voting for them either, do they not stand to lose out on the balance from Lee Wallaces transfer fee?

The administration doesnt affect their league status - that'll only happen if they're liquidated.

Liquidated

Rangers

Sounds so nice when you say it together.

Liq-uid-ated

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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If Rangers were admitted straight back into the SPL it would finish me off for good with Scottish Football.

Even though I only attend very rarely these days I sent my mate a txt saying exactly the same thing about an hour ago. You would seriously have to ask "Whats the point?"

[.Sean.]

This is giving me the Valentines Day horn.

[cwilliamson85]

What is the punishment for not being able to fulfil games?

Is it like the SFA discipline fines were it gets doubled every time the person / team offends?

[Mikey]

If Rangers fold and re-emerge as a new company they should be hoofed down to the 3rd division.

It would be absolutely ludicrous for them to kick off next season in the SPL with no debts.

[ScottB]

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What is the punishment for not being able to fulfil games?

Is it like the SFA discipline fines were it gets doubled every time the person / team offends?

Livi got punted to the 3rd division for it, but that was the SFL.

I'd think certainly the opposing team would be awarded set 3 nil wins perhaps? But then you could argue that's unfair on the other clubs.

I guess it depends if it's 1 or 2 games, or if they can't guarantee fulfilling any games, in the later case they'd surely have to be booted out of the league. Can any one remember any plans that were made when Gretna were clinging on? Certainly expect Rangers to be forwarded TV / Prize money ahead of schedule to try and keep them going till seasons end.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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This is giving me the Valentines Day horn.

I get the feeling that a few people could end up shooting prematurely about this situation.

[KeithTheHibby]

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Anyone else hear the rubbish being spouted on talk sport just now? Scottish football should help rangers in their time of need

Those english ****s were saying exactly the same yesterday, ****in morons.

For a start they are not close enough to scottish football to form such an opinion and secondly the huns would have been offski down to the EPL if they had been allowed.

They don't give a **** about scottish football so why should scottish football give a **** about them?

I hope it's a slow painful death.

[Paisley Hibby]

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If Rangers fold and re-emerge as a new company they should be hoofed down to the 3rd division.

It would be absolutely ludicrous for them to kick off next season in the SPL with no debts.

I agree - but that is exactly what is going to happen. It's probably been Craig *****'s plan all along. And to add insult to injury, it's going to be funded by we taxpayers.

[Spike Mandela]

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I get the feeling that a few people could end up shooting prematurely about this situation.

We are looking at Motherwell on a slightly bigger scale. A few players and office staff will sadly lose their jobs and creditors will get shafted. Meanwhile Motherwell look likely to qualify for Europe this year.

[HFC 0-7]

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Livi got punted to the 3rd division for it, but that was the SFL.

I'd think certainly the opposing team would be awarded set 3 nil wins perhaps? But then you could argue that's unfair on the other clubs.

I guess it depends if it's 1 or 2 games, or if they can't guarantee fulfilling any games, in the later case they'd surely have to be booted out of the league. Can any one remember any plans that were made when Gretna were clinging on? Certainly expect Rangers to be forwarded TV / Prize money ahead of schedule to try and keep them going till seasons end.

Think they would still be able to fulfil their games, it would just be behind closed doors but obviously that would cause other issues as there would be a lack of income and ST holders would not be happy.

[frazeHFC]

officialpompey: @RFC_Official All the best to all the staff and fans. We are thinking of you in these tough times. Good luck. #togetherwearestronger


'together we are stronger' - cos financially they can help each other right enough.

[the_ginger_hibee]

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I agree - but that is exactly what is going to happen. It's probably been Craig *****'s plan all along. And to add insult to injury, it's going to be funded by we taxpayers.

So essentially, we, the taxpayer have funded years of overspending and dominance by the most odious, corrupt, backward organisation ever? While clubs who 'play the game' the right way are left behind scrimping cash and offering pittance in comparison? And at the end of it all, the only real damage is minus 10 points in a essentially 'dead' title race?

What a mad world we live in....Makes you wonder who the real mugs actually are...

[TheEastTerrace]

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If Rangers fold and re-emerge as a new company they should be hoofed down to the 3rd division.

It would be absolutely ludicrous for them to kick off next season in the SPL with no debts.

If this happened, that would be it for me and Scottish football - would be saying 'spend your way to oblivion, but hey it's ok, liquidate, dump the debt and rise from the ashes as a phoenix club and we'll ratify you.'

Disgusting.

[nonshinyfinish]

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officialpompey: @RFC_Official All the best to all the staff and fans. We are thinking of you in these tough times. Good luck. #togetherwearestronger


'together we are stronger' - cos financially they can help each other right enough.

All of these thieving pricks can GTF.

[sambajustice]

Surely though the Huns are going to have to lay off players, if they lay off so many surely they are not a shoe in for 2nd place. How can they be allowed to keep guys like McGregor, McCulloch, Naismith, Lafferty, ie the bigger earners?

People keep going on about Motherwell but look at Portsmouth down south, they've gone into Administration again!! I dont think it will be easy for the huns. Surely they are going to have to cut their cloth accordingly and pay wages more in line with the rest of the SPL clubs??

[Matty_Jack04]

Surely it can't be as easy to rack up massive debts then call in admin and pay 10p for every pound due?? If that's the case it's no wonder the country is screwed

[Kaiser1962]

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Would the administrators job not be finished by the time to vote on the newly created Rangers looking for entry? Therefore they would not have a vote.

Don't count on Hearts voting for them either, do they not stand to lose out on the balance from Lee Wallaces transfer fee?

No. The SPL will pay Hearts with money deducted from Rangers share of prize money/TV money should it become necessary.

[HFC 0-7]

Did I just hear on Sky Sports that Rangers also owe 9 million to HMRC to do with the takeover of the club and PAYE since the takeover? If thats the case, where has the money been going? The ticketus money?

[SteveHFC]

I've just heard Rangers have entered administration and been docked 10 points, truly a sad day for anti-football.

[Hibrandenburg]

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If this happened, that would be it for me and Scottish football - would be saying 'spend your way to oblivion, but hey it's ok, liquidate, dump the debt and rise from the ashes as a phoenix club and we'll ratify you.'

Disgusting.

Only if you're one of the mankies though. If the tax payer is left holding the baby here and the sum total of Rangers' punishment is a 10 point reduction, then I've had it with Scottish football.

If the rest of the SPL members let this happen then **** them too.

"Oh what a parcel of rogues in a nation".

[blindsummit]

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So essentially, we, the taxpayer have funded years of overspending and dominance by the most odious, corrupt, backward organisation ever? While clubs who 'play the game' the right way are left behind scrimping cash and offering pittance in comparison? And at the end of it all, the only real damage is minus 10 points in a essentially 'dead' title race?

What a mad world we live in....Makes you wonder who the real mugs actually are...

Pretty much hammer meets head of nail there. Scottish football is a joke. Cheats prosper and will continue to do so.

After my initial glee at Ranger's plight wore off I'm actually quite angry and depressed at what's about to happen.

The political, legal, financial and media establishment will close ranks around their beloved Rangers. Lots of hand signals and aprons helping out there too.
Our football "authorities" will bend over backwards to break what little feeble rules they have, to accomodate Rangers.
Celtic will have a good laugh, but will then close ranks as they need their Ugly Sisters partners to feed off in that bigoted, symbiotic parasitical way they have developed.
Many other SPHell clubs will follow suit as well, fearing the loss of the crumbs from the table.

The outome will be:
A club called Rangers will still be in the SPL next season and competing in Europe.
They will have no debt and will continue to spend way over the odds, stealing players from well run clubs as they go.
Their fans will continue to be moronic, cretinous, bigoted glory hunters.
The existing creditors, especially the taxpayer, will be told to go pound sand and will lose everything.
Cheats and bullies will continue to prosper in Scotland.
Those who play by the moral rules will continue to struggle.

I hope to gawd I'm wrong and that some semblance of payback and natural justice will prevail, but knowing the history of Scottish Football and the Scottish establishment, I won't hold my breath.

[Part/Time Supporter]

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We are looking at Motherwell on a slightly bigger scale. A few players and office staff will sadly lose their jobs and creditors will get shafted. Meanwhile Motherwell look likely to qualify for Europe this year.

It's different from Motherwell. Most of their debt was owed to John Boyle, who eventually decided to write off that debt. Whyte can't do that with HMRC.

[Part/Time Supporter]

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Surely it can't be as easy to rack up massive debts then call in admin and pay 10p for every pound due?? If that's the case it's no wonder the country is screwed

It isn't. The creditors would need to vote to accept that.

[Part/Time Supporter]

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Did I just hear on Sky Sports that Rangers also owe 9 million to HMRC to do with the takeover of the club and PAYE since the takeover? If thats the case, where has the money been going? The ticketus money?

Confirmed by the administrator

http://www.mcr.uk.com/duff-amp-phelps-appointed-administrators-of-rangers-football-club.html

[blindsummit]

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Anyone else hear the rubbish being spouted on talk sport just now? Scottish football should help rangers in their time of need

Help them! Frackin help them! What crack pipe are they smoking! After they have bled the rest of the game dry, and cheated and shafted their way to trophy after trophy!

I have to go lie down now as my blood pressure is peaking!

[heretoday]

Rangers are now some distance behind Celtic and the title would appear to be sown up but didn't they overcome a similar margin earlier in the season?