Time to start burning the stars and stripes across Europe.
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Time to start burning the stars and stripes across Europe.
Let’s focus on Russia first.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tubs
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No, just time to move on.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Correct. Let's not do Russia's job for them.
We may yet get to that stage but we're not there yet.
They have a cabinet filled with nutjobs and greedy fascists taking their institutions to pieces. I would plan a trajectory in which Europe spends the least amount possible on their defence services/manufacturing. I don't know how it stands with information, but you can see anyone who shares with Europe soon to be considered as "deep state".
A burning of flags would be a fitting signal to half-decent yanks about what's going on. Pity many folk far from Russia in Europe are, in my opinion, too lukewarm about the whole situation, though I'm not referring to people on this thread.
Donald Trump and his cronies are not the USA. By all means burn the **** out of Trump pictures and effigies if that's what floats yer boat, but burning the US flag is an insult to all good Americans including those who paid the ultimate price defending our freedom.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tubs
Decent and half-decent yanks are already onside.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tubs
The nutjobs are a lost cause.
The whole place rests on a limited few in the middle who can be swayed, and I'd guess that public burning of American flags would be likely to turn them away from us rather than towards us.
The decent ones voted for Harris last time, and those that didn't vote were sufficiently suppressed/put off. This was suppression under a Democrat executive. I really can't see people getting another real say in how their country is governed for a while. Europe, for what it represents, has probably become the enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Look at what Musk is doing with X and Visa. I think he wants it to be the US version of WeChat. You can't function in China without it and Musk probably wants to do the same with X. I bet you'll probably need X to vote.
Having said that, I've never trusted much in my approach to psychology, so you might have a point about the flags.
With all the people being fired in the US I don’t think there is any way they do not fall into recession soon. That will hurt us here as well especially since our debt is already maxed out.
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US State Dept staff banned from subscribing to independent media
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Embarrassing for any self respecting media company not to be on that list.Quote:
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They really are turning into a tribute act of Putin's Russia.
Not long before they start locking up alleged 'dissidents'
They are already calling for AOC to be charged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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"... to go into war ..." Like he had an option.
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Originally Posted by grunt
It's like he's read* 1984 and thought it was a How-To guide.
*Yeah. I know.
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Flying in the US getting pretty dangerous.
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Just when you think Trump can't sink any lower, he manages to surprise you. The man has the morality of a cesspit.
I wonder if the nutters that voted for this idiot feel proud of themselves when they read this stuff.
Will they be reading this stuff or will they be reading only Trump approved news sources? Distinguishing truth from lies will become ever more difficult for Americans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Hasn’t Trump got rid of a lot of ATCs? I seem to recall he had a go at the recruitment of disabled onesQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The dwarf transgender ones.Quote:
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It would be a better one than Art of the Deal!Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
What a load of ***** that was.
Completely agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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Significant cuts.
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We should not be buying weapons from this fascist regime, we need to up our game in weapon technology, the UK and Europe have the expertise, we just need to concentrate and coordinate our efforts. Europe needs to become a military super power, otherwise we'll be living at the mercy of the likes of Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
We have to accept that Trump is basically a Russian ‘Asset’, and probably has been in their pocket to some extent since the supposed incident in Moscow in 2013.
His recent statements re Ukraine are mind blowing and European leaders have to come to terms with the USA selling out on Ukraines future security.
NATO also have to have a long hard look at how it is going to operate without the US military as Trump will veto any future involvement in any conflict in Europe that does not directly benefit him.
He has tore up the world order that we have comfortably lived with for decades. It looks like nothing in the US will stop him, the Senate , Congress, Judiciary will all just be ignored in efforts to stop him, they are just all minor speed bumps in the road to him establishing his autocracy.
The situation today, imo, is far more dangerous than it was during the Cuban missile crisis and the many years of the Cold War with the USSR.
I’m actually thinking we may just need to ignore him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ddoc
His proclamations are farcical and it’s impossible to know which words we’re meant to pay attention to.
The only words that matter will be the ones that are ongoing, behind closed doors.
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Trump administration moves to end New York City congestion hikes - BBC News
"CONGESTION PRICING IS DEAD," President Trump said on social media. "Manhattan, and all of New York, is SAVED. LONG LIVE THE KING!"
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has the Daily Heil all of a sudden got new owners..and "journalists"
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I wish we could. I expect the US / Russia peace plan will be unacceptable to Ukraine and the majority of European countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
He will then throw his teddy out of cot and withdraw all US support to Ukraine. Will Ukraines European allies be able and willing to fill the gaps vacated by what the USA supplied the Ukrainian Armed Forces with what they will need to at least maintain the status quo.
What measures may he dream up to punish European countries that do not toe his line in his efforts for a Nobel Peace Prize.
This situation is a nightmare that has Putin lapping at the cream like a Cheshire Cat.
I would say all support for Ukraine from the US has already been withdrawn? I don’t think anything has been sent since Biden. And there are no further plans.Quote:
Originally Posted by ddoc
Europe can make up the difference if it wants to. Especially if they pay the Ukrainians to make their own drones. They are better at it and it’s cheaper.
What is really needed is money to pay troops higher salaries and bonus so they can increase recruitment.
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I wouldn’t have thought so. Their hatred of Putin dictates their editorial slantQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Europe will need to step up, it's as simple as that.
Russia are running out of kit and churning through soldiers, but as they weaken Ukraine weakens, the advantage Ukraine and us have is the modern kit and drones that are causing chaos. Russias experiment with North Korean soldiers seems to have been pulled.
We need to take all our modern kit and send it to Ukraine ASAP; air defence systems, tanks and vehicles, fighters and bombers, helicopters. All of it.
Put it simply, an investment in Ukraine winning this war is an investment in the security of the EU for 25 years at minimum if Russia maintains the status quo with despot, oligarch type leaders.
America and Trump can no longer be relied on for just about anything. Trump is in the pockets of the Russians and until he's ousted any relationship we have with the US should be put on hiatus.
And that’s Musk now suggesting that Zelinsky is too busy focusing on media stuff whilst kids are dying in trenches.
Rat *******.
Obviously it would be better to have the Americans onside but the Europeans have been planning for these events for a long time. They haven't happened out of the blue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Trump is savaging his own country. They're the main losers. The soft power they've gained over the last century, the potential contracts for arms for the war to continue, the contracts to rebuild Ukraine - he's dismantling day by day. It doesn't hurt them now but boy will it hurt them in future.
Europe's problem was arms production capacity - now that's no longer an issue. By the end of the year Europe will be out-producing the rest of the world put together.
Trump's in trouble when his own chickens come home to roost.
Europe is a force, and Ukraine themselves are an emerging one. Trump has probably just jolted Europe into some much needed unity that didn't necessarily exist before. We need to keep it that way as there's a multitude of forces who stand to benefit should that not be the case going forward.
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Posted by my Canadian bud… also a Hibee and on this site 🇳🇬 CJWard
Dear America,
We need to talk.
I know, I know—whenever someone says that, it’s never good. But I need to be honest with you. I think we need a break.
It’s not me, it’s you. Okay, it’s also me, but mostly you.
We started out with so much in common. We came from the same place, built ourselves from scratch, figured out democracy together, and survived the awkward colonial years. Over time, we grew differently, but never apart. Sure, we had our little sibling rivalries—your bold declarations, my preference for quiet negotiations—but we always had each other’s backs.
Except for that one time when we actually fought. Things got heated, words were exchanged, a few buildings burned down. Honestly, we probably should’ve had some mediation instead of escalating things the way we did. But we moved past it. We found ways to work together. And for a long time, I thought we had something solid.
I used to admire you. I truly believed you were the greatest, the boldest, the one everyone wanted to be. But looking back, I think that was just my own insecurities talking. I thought I needed to be more like you to matter. Now I realize I was fine just being me.
But lately… I don’t even recognize you anymore.
You’re angry all the time. You pick fights with strangers. You start drama on social media. You can’t even agree with yourself about who you are or what you stand for. One minute you’re marching for change, the next you’re rolling back rights. You talk about democracy like it’s sacred, but then you start flirting with authoritarianism like it’s a bad ex you know you shouldn’t text at 2 a.m. but just can’t help yourself.
And look, I get it—self-reflection isn’t really your thing. So let me help you out: If every single one of your friendships is strained, maybe the problem isn’t them.
I’ve tried to be patient. But you keep talking about making yourself “great again” when greatness isn’t screaming at flight attendants and banning books. It’s not rewriting history just because you don’t like how the story went. And it’s definitely not treating basic human decency like it’s up for debate.
Also, I heard you muttering about me moving in with you. Let’s be clear—that’s never happening. I love you, but I also love my space, my free healthcare, and the fact that I don’t have to turn every conversation into a debate. We work better as neighbors. Separate homes, shared holidays, mutual respect. That’s how this has always worked best.
I need space. Maybe I’ll go on a long canoe trip to clear my head, spend more weekends with Europe, or finally give Australia a shot. Sure, they’ve got terrifying spiders, but at least they don’t shut down their entire government every time they have an argument.
And before you ask—no, I won’t be coming to visit anytime soon. Not until you clean up your house. I love a historic landmark as much as the next country, but right now, the place is a mess. Every time I drop by, I leave feeling worse than when I came. And frankly, I don’t want to be caught in the middle of another family fight over dinner.
This isn’t goodbye forever. I still care about you. I still believe in what we could be. But until you figure out who you really are—and, more importantly, who you want to be—I have to step back.
I’ll be here. Keeping your border warm, holding onto your favorite comedians, quietly hoping you get your act together.
And don’t think you can just show up at my door with a six-pack and an apology, either. This time, I need more than empty promises and a cheeseburger. I need change.
Sincerely,
Canada
P.S. If you so much as whisper about invading for our water, I swear to god, we’re done.
The time when the U.K. government will have to choose between the U.S. and Europe is rapidly approaching.
How many times will Starmer change his mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee
He’d be forgiven for having to give it serious thought tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
As ****ing awful as present day America is, it’s a ghastly situation for a PM to be put in and I’d expect him to think long and hard.
Before making the correct decision and going with Europe.
Orange gimp is unpopular in the UK, in the replies yougov said the 4% saying favorable to Putin were pretty much reform voters, unsurprisingly
Election Maps UK
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Foreign Leader Favourability Ratings amongst British Voters:
🇺🇦 Volodymyr Zelenskyy
Favourable: 64%
Unfavourable: 16%
NET: +48%
🇺🇸 Donald Trump
Favourable: 22%
Unfavourable: 73%
NET: -51%
🇷🇺 Vladimir Putin
Favourable: 4%
Unfavourable: 89%
NET: -85%
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@YouGov
, 16-17 Feb
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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
22% of Brits approve of Trump?
That's quite shocking, TBH.
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Enjoy, and hope it happens soon.
It’s sounds excessive and then you just need to imagine something like a full Ibrox and it starts to make sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
The trouble we have is that if Europe steps up further to plug the funding gap left by the US to support Ukraine in the war, then it’s ripe for further manipulation by Russia’s puppets, a la Trump, Musk, Farage.
If economic hardship persists for many people in the countries supporting Ukraine, then it will be exploited by the Right to turn people against it, and use it to their political ends.
When Musk really starts to interfere in our electoral process the misinformation will be off the charts - and his propaganda works, regardless of how unhinged it is.
For example, chat of there being more political dissidents in jail in the UK than in Russia rightly raises a chuckle at the moment, but once stuff like that gets parroted over and over again by the morons and grifters on the Right - and the Russian bots and Musk’s minions on Twitter - it seeps through, as we have seen in the States.
Liz Truss crawled out from under her rock this week to pipe up about the UK needing a MAGA movement. She’s a ****ing maniac but this stuff doesn’t come from nowhere. Her shamelessness makes her a potential asset to the Right, and she hasn’t allied herself to Trump and Bannon by accident.
Of course our MAGA movement was basically the rabid Brexiteers during the referendum campaign, and we know how easily manipulated they were. Many of them will be ripe for another bull**** campaign to sweep them along, and an anti-Ukraine stance would suit them perfectly (despite it contravening all their apparent beliefs on sovereignty).
Alternatively a Europe that shows it can deal with its own security and gains 40m new citizens might start to flourish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
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That would be amazing. But it would be dependent upon us finding a way to defeat the endless tirades of misinformation that will continue to flood in. Unfortunately the odds are stacked against us on that front.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The final results from Germany at the weekend will tell us a lot about the level of task that we face.
Can we not ban twitter ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
I’m sure we could block access but it would likely be counterproductive and play into Musk’s hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
I don’t see why? It’s not like there are not alternatives. If it’s a threat to our security then it should be gone. The first tariffs that are imposed on us that should be the reply alongside 100% tariffs on Teslas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
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That would be a good start. And close down the Daily Mail, the Express and the Telegraph, and clear out the RW management at the BBC. It's time the liberal centre and the left hit back.Quote:
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What would happen if social media was regulated as press?Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
It should be. They should be forced to apologies for any inaccuracies and fined for libellous ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tubs
I think the educational system in Germany (especially the former West) will ensure that the far right don't get more than 25% of the vote on a national level. Unfortunately there will also be people that can't be educated and then there's still those who grew up under a totalitarian regime that tend to vote extreme right or left. The AfD will unfortunately gain a significant portion of the vote on Sunday, but not enough to stop the mainstream centre parties forming an anti fascist coalition.Quote:
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The White House has banned staff from accessing to 5/6 news outlets that they don’t agree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
There goes your postal votes, America!
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This is what you get even when you only voted for Trump for “economic reasons”.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
Economic reasons will look a bit stupid soon too. Inflation already rising again and a recession can’t be avoided with the number of people being sacked and the rest of the federal workers jobs under threat. Every single family will be reducing spending right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
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Yeah, but he said 'amen' at the end so that'll please the bible belt.Quote:
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It's absolutely astonishing what is going on over there. Decent Americans must be horrified.
There are not many of them or we wouldn’t be here.Quote:
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Steady on. Trump got 49.9% of the vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Ipsos and Gallup polls today have Trumps net approval dropping 7 points from last Friday? Parroting the lines Putin has fed you will earn you cash but cost you votes it seems. Reforms polls plummeted when Farage did similar pre election
By the time they have to vote again all the people who don’t like him will be ineligible to vote.[emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Noticed on Reddit this morning there have been more than a few "3rd term" hints being dropped, Trump himself even mentioned it towards the end of his first term in office I think.
Watch this fire start to take hold over the next few months.
Constitution is clear so would require violence.Quote:
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Doesn't matter to these *******s, they'll cite it when it suits them.Quote:
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Luckily they've got the right to carry guns to stop exactly this kind of nonsense.Quote:
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Interesting that they always cite that they have the 2nd amendment to protect themselves against a tyrannical govt. Turns out when it happens they don’t do ****.Quote:
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This was of course the grand irony of January 6th - they stormed the Capitol to try and keep what would have been an illegitimate government in place, rather than try to overthrow it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Their constitution is only cited when they want to say abhorrent things, or justify the horrible gun massacres that take place with frightening regularity.
The rest of it is of no interest - and indeed serves no purpose - to these *****.
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I think there will be a deep recession in the US in the near future. They are in real trouble with the dollar, it's essentially the worlds reserve currency and has been for as long as I have been alive. However, the Euro is being increasingly used. It's absolutely no coincidence why him and Musk are funding far right parties all across Europe, the only way the keep the dollar strong is for Europe to be divided and fighting their own chaos. A truly united European continent is all kinds of bad news for the US. We've got over half a billion consumers, they've got around 350 million, they cannot afford to **** up the strength of their economy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I hope we do indeed see a strong, united Europe very very soon and people reject this right wing nonsense. I will be interested to see how the vote in Germany goes, my gut feeling is that over the last few weeks is the support for the AFd is starting to wane given they're in bed with Musk and Trump. Now that it's clear Russia are pulling the strings, well, surely that'll seal the deal. Who knows though.
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I think the AfD will get about 20% but mainly in the former East and will knock the SPD into third place. The CDU will get about 30% of the vote and will need 2 other parties to form a governing coalition. Coalition politics in Germany is normal and I think we'll see a CDU/SPD/Linke coalition despite the Greens getting more seats than the Linke.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Exile
Saudi Arabia and the Arab countries are stopping using the dollar for their oil transaction. They announced it last year which is a huge thing for the dollar.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Exile
I think trump mentioned he was trying to change their minds.
They are already moving away from America, Trump could speed things up.
The main things that give the dollar its power is the fact that America is a democracy and also it, as part of NATO, has unrivalled military power. Trump is undermining both.Quote:
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Much like the Tories here, they are not very good at the actual nuts and bolts of immigration policy.
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Sadly now it would be insanity to get rid of nuclear weapons. Germany should definitely get rid of its American nuclear weapons and take French or British. Trump could do some good by helping push forward a united European military force
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“We need to have discussions with both the British and the French — the two European nuclear powers — about whether nuclear sharing, or at least nuclear security from the U.K. and France, could also apply to us,” says likely next chancellor Merz
Are the British nukes not American??Quote:
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French media reporting that Trump will attend the 9th May parade in Moscow.
Been a while since I served in the Forces but Trident was definitely a British system thenQuote:
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I think the missiles are leased from the US but UK Is responsible for operating the system .Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
Liz Truss parroting right wing think tank lies with zero talent or poise.
People say she's bonkers but the content is very particularly laid out.
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We should be considering turning it into a European system because we can’t afford to renew them ourselves anyway. Get the rest of Europe to help fund it with the guarantee that they are also covered by it.Quote:
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UK has around 250 UK made and owned nuclear weaponsQuote:
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The French system is 100% theirs I think. Has always been.Quote:
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The constitution serves the purpose of keeping thousands of lawyers in a job as they try to decide what it means.Quote:
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Trident, at least the missile part of Trident is leased from the US, the Trident subs get the missiles serviced and exchanged in the US and the UK contribute to the US base that services the missiles.Quote:
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Courtesy of David Clayton-ThomasQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Someday the true story of Donald Trump’s Russian connection will be told and it will read like a spy novel worthy of Tom Clancy.
It’s the story of a beauty pageant that led to the election of a President.
In November of 2013 Donald Trump held the Miss Universe Contest in Moscow.
At the time Trump was beyond broke… He was deeply in debt and after five bankruptcies, not a bank in America would lend him money.
For a week Mr. Trump and a bevy of the most beautiful women in the world partied with all the big wigs in Russia… politicos, oligarchs, rock stars, celebrities, even Vladimir Putin himself.
There has been much speculation about what went down in that week of booze, babes and big money, but whatever it was, it changed the course of history.
A few months later the Trump organization received a massive infusion of cash from Deutsche Bank… a German banking giant that has routinely paid millions in fines for illegally laundering money for the Russians.
Trump left Moscow with the financial backing he so desperately needed and Putin had his hooks in Trump.
In 2015 Trump announced his candidacy for POTUS and Putin began actively cultivating his asset.
The Mueller report States unequivocally that Russia conducted a systematic misinformation campaign designed to tarnish Trump’s opponents and promote his candidacy.
Russia’s influence in the 2016 election was pervasive and it worked.
With Putin’s help Donald J Trump became the 45th President of the United States and he wasted no time paying off the debt he owed to his pal Vladimir.
Trump spoke glowingly of him every chance he got… every executive decision benefited Putin.
He ceded the middle east to Russia, withdrew from Syria and allowed Putin to fill the void.
He turned his back on Ukraine, the last bastion standing between Russia and a free Europe.
He disavowed NATO, the alliance that had held Russia at bay for over 70 years.
He pulled US troops out of Germany… something the Kremlin has always wanted.
At the Helsinki summit, Trump chose to publicly believe Putin over his own intelligence agencies.
He attacked America’s friends and embraced her enemies just as Vladimir wanted.
At home Trump became the divider in chief, driving deep divisions between all the different factions of American society.
To divide America from within… to drive a wedge between blacks and whites, rich and poor, left and right, has long been a part of Putin’s KGB playbook.
Russian hackers are inflaming racial tensions across the country, infiltrating radical groups and planting disinformation on social media.
We can only hope that the US Intelligence Services are prepared to address this threat because obviously Mr.Trump isn’t.
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Just as you wrote that I was watching the nut-job AFD leader talking about her plans to take Germany out of the the Euro and restore the Deutschmark.
It's amazing how most of the plans of the far right, like dismantling the EU, play right into the hands of Putin.
:agree: Divide and conquer, it'll never catch on.Quote:
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Good luck with that. Tulsi Gabbard is Director of US National Intelligence.Quote:
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French media publication Le Point are reporting that quite incredibly Trump will join Putin in Moscow for Russia's May the 9th Victory Day celebrations.
That simply not very true at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
In fact the Saudi Riyal is pegged to the Dollar so while they may be open to accepting other currencies in reality it doesn’t make any sense for them to expose themselves to the exchange rate risk.
So due to the fact that selling in dollars is effectively the same as selling in their own currency (the exchange rate stays constant) they continue to sell their oil in dollars and will most likely continue to do so for some time yet.
It's not leased we bought the missles for £12 billion, they do get serviced in the US. They are ours though and sending them if it ever came to it can be decided by the PM. UK are developing A21/Mk7 to replace trident though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Bee
Trident is the system, i.e. the subs, the missiles and the warheads. The subs are built in Cumbria using American designs and parts, the warheads are built in Aldermaston by a company partly controlled by Lockhead Martin, the guidance system is designed and made in the US and the UK is technically dependent on the US for that. The missiles themselves are leased from the US. I'd say the UK would need the permission of the US to fire them, they'd probably be firing them in support of the US if it ever came to that anyway.Quote:
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