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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee View Post
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    The time when the U.K. government will have to choose between the U.S. and Europe is rapidly approaching.
    How many times will Starmer change his mind?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    How many times will Starmer change his mind?
    He’d be forgiven for having to give it serious thought tbh.

    As ****ing awful as present day America is, it’s a ghastly situation for a PM to be put in and I’d expect him to think long and hard.

    Before making the correct decision and going with Europe.

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    Orange gimp is unpopular in the UK, in the replies yougov said the 4% saying favorable to Putin were pretty much reform voters, unsurprisingly


    Election Maps UK
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    Foreign Leader Favourability Ratings amongst British Voters:

    🇺🇦 Volodymyr Zelenskyy
    Favourable: 64%
    Unfavourable: 16%
    NET: +48%

    🇺🇸 Donald Trump
    Favourable: 22%
    Unfavourable: 73%
    NET: -51%

    🇷🇺 Vladimir Putin
    Favourable: 4%
    Unfavourable: 89%
    NET: -85%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Orange gimp is unpopular in the UK, in the replies yougov said the 4% saying favorable to Putin were pretty much reform voters, unsurprisingly


    Election Maps UK
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    Foreign Leader Favourability Ratings amongst British Voters:

    🇺🇦 Volodymyr Zelenskyy
    Favourable: 64%
    Unfavourable: 16%
    NET: +48%

    🇺🇸 Donald Trump
    Favourable: 22%
    Unfavourable: 73%
    NET: -51%

    🇷🇺 Vladimir Putin
    Favourable: 4%
    Unfavourable: 89%
    NET: -85%

    Via
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    , 16-17 Feb


    22% of Brits approve of Trump?

    That's quite shocking, TBH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    22% of Brits approve of Trump?

    That's quite shocking, TBH.
    It’s sounds excessive and then you just need to imagine something like a full Ibrox and it starts to make sense.

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    The trouble we have is that if Europe steps up further to plug the funding gap left by the US to support Ukraine in the war, then it’s ripe for further manipulation by Russia’s puppets, a la Trump, Musk, Farage.

    If economic hardship persists for many people in the countries supporting Ukraine, then it will be exploited by the Right to turn people against it, and use it to their political ends.

    When Musk really starts to interfere in our electoral process the misinformation will be off the charts - and his propaganda works, regardless of how unhinged it is.

    For example, chat of there being more political dissidents in jail in the UK than in Russia rightly raises a chuckle at the moment, but once stuff like that gets parroted over and over again by the morons and grifters on the Right - and the Russian bots and Musk’s minions on Twitter - it seeps through, as we have seen in the States.

    Liz Truss crawled out from under her rock this week to pipe up about the UK needing a MAGA movement. She’s a ****ing maniac but this stuff doesn’t come from nowhere. Her shamelessness makes her a potential asset to the Right, and she hasn’t allied herself to Trump and Bannon by accident.

    Of course our MAGA movement was basically the rabid Brexiteers during the referendum campaign, and we know how easily manipulated they were. Many of them will be ripe for another bull**** campaign to sweep them along, and an anti-Ukraine stance would suit them perfectly (despite it contravening all their apparent beliefs on sovereignty).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    The trouble we have is that if Europe steps up further to plug the funding gap left by the US to support Ukraine in the war, then it’s ripe for further manipulation by Russia’s puppets, a la Trump, Musk, Farage.

    If economic hardship persists for many people in the countries supporting Ukraine, then it will be exploited by the Right to turn people against it, and use it to their political ends.

    When Musk really starts to interfere in our electoral process the misinformation will be off the charts - and his propaganda works, regardless of how unhinged it is.

    For example, chat of there being more political dissidents in jail in the UK than in Russia rightly raises a chuckle at the moment, but once stuff like that gets parroted over and over again by the morons and grifters on the Right - and the Russian bots and Musk’s minions on Twitter - it seeps through, as we have seen in the States.

    Liz Truss crawled out from under her rock this week to pipe up about the UK needing a MAGA movement. She’s a ****ing maniac but this stuff doesn’t come from nowhere. Her shamelessness makes her a potential asset to the Right, and she hasn’t allied herself to Trump and Bannon by accident.

    Of course our MAGA movement was basically the rabid Brexiteers during the referendum campaign, and we know how easily manipulated they were. Many of them will be ripe for another bull**** campaign to sweep them along, and an anti-Ukraine stance would suit them perfectly (despite it contravening all their apparent beliefs on sovereignty).
    Alternatively a Europe that shows it can deal with its own security and gains 40m new citizens might start to flourish.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Alternatively a Europe that shows it can deal with its own security and gains 40m new citizens might start to flourish.


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    That would be amazing. But it would be dependent upon us finding a way to defeat the endless tirades of misinformation that will continue to flood in. Unfortunately the odds are stacked against us on that front.

    The final results from Germany at the weekend will tell us a lot about the level of task that we face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    That would be amazing. But it would be dependent upon us finding a way to defeat the endless tirades of misinformation that will continue to flood in. Unfortunately the odds are stacked against us on that front.
    Can we not ban twitter ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Can we not ban twitter ?
    I’m sure we could block access but it would likely be counterproductive and play into Musk’s hands.

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    I’m sure we could block access but it would likely be counterproductive and play into Musk’s hands.
    I don’t see why? It’s not like there are not alternatives. If it’s a threat to our security then it should be gone. The first tariffs that are imposed on us that should be the reply alongside 100% tariffs on Teslas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    I’m sure we could block access but it would likely be counterproductive and play into Musk’s hands.
    That would be a good start. And close down the Daily Mail, the Express and the Telegraph, and clear out the RW management at the BBC. It's time the liberal centre and the left hit back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Can we not ban twitter ?
    What would happen if social media was regulated as press?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tubs View Post
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    What would happen if social media was regulated as press?
    It should be. They should be forced to apologies for any inaccuracies and fined for libellous ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    That would be amazing. But it would be dependent upon us finding a way to defeat the endless tirades of misinformation that will continue to flood in. Unfortunately the odds are stacked against us on that front.

    The final results from Germany at the weekend will tell us a lot about the level of task that we face.
    I think the educational system in Germany (especially the former West) will ensure that the far right don't get more than 25% of the vote on a national level. Unfortunately there will also be people that can't be educated and then there's still those who grew up under a totalitarian regime that tend to vote extreme right or left. The AfD will unfortunately gain a significant portion of the vote on Sunday, but not enough to stop the mainstream centre parties forming an anti fascist coalition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    That would be a good start. And close down the Daily Mail, the Express and the Telegraph, and clear out the RW management at the BBC. It's time the liberal centre and the left hit back.
    The White House has banned staff from accessing to 5/6 news outlets that they don’t agree with.

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    There goes your postal votes, America!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    This is what you get even when you only voted for Trump for “economic reasons”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    This is what you get even when you only voted for Trump for “economic reasons”.
    Economic reasons will look a bit stupid soon too. Inflation already rising again and a recession can’t be avoided with the number of people being sacked and the rest of the federal workers jobs under threat. Every single family will be reducing spending right now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    This is what you get even when you only voted for Trump for “economic reasons”.
    Yeah, but he said 'amen' at the end so that'll please the bible belt.

    It's absolutely astonishing what is going on over there. Decent Americans must be horrified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Yeah, but he said 'amen' at the end so that'll please the bible belt.

    It's absolutely astonishing what is going on over there. Decent Americans must be horrified.
    There are not many of them or we wouldn’t be here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    There are not many of them or we wouldn’t be here.
    Steady on. Trump got 49.9% of the vote.

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    Ipsos and Gallup polls today have Trumps net approval dropping 7 points from last Friday? Parroting the lines Putin has fed you will earn you cash but cost you votes it seems. Reforms polls plummeted when Farage did similar pre election

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Ipsos and Gallup polls today have Trumps net approval dropping 7 points from last Friday? Parroting the lines Putin has fed you will earn you cash but cost you votes it seems. Reforms polls plummeted when Farage did similar pre election
    By the time they have to vote again all the people who don’t like him will be ineligible to vote.


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    Noticed on Reddit this morning there have been more than a few "3rd term" hints being dropped, Trump himself even mentioned it towards the end of his first term in office I think.

    Watch this fire start to take hold over the next few months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    Noticed on Reddit this morning there have been more than a few "3rd term" hints being dropped, Trump himself even mentioned it towards the end of his first term in office I think.

    Watch this fire start to take hold over the next few months.
    Constitution is clear so would require violence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Constitution is clear so would require violence.


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    Doesn't matter to these *******s, they'll cite it when it suits them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Constitution is clear so would require violence.


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    Luckily they've got the right to carry guns to stop exactly this kind of nonsense.

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