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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Luckily they've got the right to carry guns to stop exactly this kind of nonsense.
    Interesting that they always cite that they have the 2nd amendment to protect themselves against a tyrannical govt. Turns out when it happens they don’t do ****.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Interesting that they always cite that they have the 2nd amendment to protect themselves against a tyrannical govt. Turns out when it happens they don’t do ****.


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    This was of course the grand irony of January 6th - they stormed the Capitol to try and keep what would have been an illegitimate government in place, rather than try to overthrow it.

    Their constitution is only cited when they want to say abhorrent things, or justify the horrible gun massacres that take place with frightening regularity.

    The rest of it is of no interest - and indeed serves no purpose - to these *****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    This was of course the grand irony of January 6th - they stormed the Capitol to try and keep what would have been an illegitimate government in place, rather than try to overthrow it.

    Their constitution is only cited when they want to say abhorrent things, or justify the horrible gun massacres that take place with frightening regularity.

    The rest of it is of no interest - and indeed serves no purpose - to these *****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Economic reasons will look a bit stupid soon too. Inflation already rising again and a recession can’t be avoided with the number of people being sacked and the rest of the federal workers jobs under threat. Every single family will be reducing spending right now.


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    I think there will be a deep recession in the US in the near future. They are in real trouble with the dollar, it's essentially the worlds reserve currency and has been for as long as I have been alive. However, the Euro is being increasingly used. It's absolutely no coincidence why him and Musk are funding far right parties all across Europe, the only way the keep the dollar strong is for Europe to be divided and fighting their own chaos. A truly united European continent is all kinds of bad news for the US. We've got over half a billion consumers, they've got around 350 million, they cannot afford to **** up the strength of their economy.

    I hope we do indeed see a strong, united Europe very very soon and people reject this right wing nonsense. I will be interested to see how the vote in Germany goes, my gut feeling is that over the last few weeks is the support for the AFd is starting to wane given they're in bed with Musk and Trump. Now that it's clear Russia are pulling the strings, well, surely that'll seal the deal. Who knows though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Exile View Post
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    I think there will be a deep recession in the US in the near future. They are in real trouble with the dollar, it's essentially the worlds reserve currency and has been for as long as I have been alive. However, the Euro is being increasingly used. It's absolutely no coincidence why him and Musk are funding far right parties all across Europe, the only way the keep the dollar strong is for Europe to be divided and fighting their own chaos. A truly united European continent is all kinds of bad news for the US. We've got over half a billion consumers, they've got around 350 million, they cannot afford to **** up the strength of their economy.

    I hope we do indeed see a strong, united Europe very very soon and people reject this right wing nonsense. I will be interested to see how the vote in Germany goes, my gut feeling is that over the last few weeks is the support for the AFd is starting to wane given they're in bed with Musk and Trump. Now that it's clear Russia are pulling the strings, well, surely that'll seal the deal. Who knows though.
    I’m out of the election prediction game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Exile View Post
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    I think there will be a deep recession in the US in the near future. They are in real trouble with the dollar, it's essentially the worlds reserve currency and has been for as long as I have been alive. However, the Euro is being increasingly used. It's absolutely no coincidence why him and Musk are funding far right parties all across Europe, the only way the keep the dollar strong is for Europe to be divided and fighting their own chaos. A truly united European continent is all kinds of bad news for the US. We've got over half a billion consumers, they've got around 350 million, they cannot afford to **** up the strength of their economy.

    I hope we do indeed see a strong, united Europe very very soon and people reject this right wing nonsense. I will be interested to see how the vote in Germany goes, my gut feeling is that over the last few weeks is the support for the AFd is starting to wane given they're in bed with Musk and Trump. Now that it's clear Russia are pulling the strings, well, surely that'll seal the deal. Who knows though.
    I think the AfD will get about 20% but mainly in the former East and will knock the SPD into third place. The CDU will get about 30% of the vote and will need 2 other parties to form a governing coalition. Coalition politics in Germany is normal and I think we'll see a CDU/SPD/Linke coalition despite the Greens getting more seats than the Linke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Exile View Post
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    I think there will be a deep recession in the US in the near future. They are in real trouble with the dollar, it's essentially the worlds reserve currency and has been for as long as I have been alive. However, the Euro is being increasingly used. It's absolutely no coincidence why him and Musk are funding far right parties all across Europe, the only way the keep the dollar strong is for Europe to be divided and fighting their own chaos. A truly united European continent is all kinds of bad news for the US. We've got over half a billion consumers, they've got around 350 million, they cannot afford to **** up the strength of their economy.

    I hope we do indeed see a strong, united Europe very very soon and people reject this right wing nonsense. I will be interested to see how the vote in Germany goes, my gut feeling is that over the last few weeks is the support for the AFd is starting to wane given they're in bed with Musk and Trump. Now that it's clear Russia are pulling the strings, well, surely that'll seal the deal. Who knows though.
    Saudi Arabia and the Arab countries are stopping using the dollar for their oil transaction. They announced it last year which is a huge thing for the dollar.

    I think trump mentioned he was trying to change their minds.

    They are already moving away from America, Trump could speed things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs4185 View Post
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    Saudi Arabia and the Arab countries are stopping using the dollar for their oil transaction. They announced it last year which is a huge thing for the dollar.

    I think trump mentioned he was trying to change their minds.

    They are already moving away from America, Trump could speed things up.
    The main things that give the dollar its power is the fact that America is a democracy and also it, as part of NATO, has unrivalled military power. Trump is undermining both.


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    Much like the Tories here, they are not very good at the actual nuts and bolts of immigration policy.


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    Sadly now it would be insanity to get rid of nuclear weapons. Germany should definitely get rid of its American nuclear weapons and take French or British. Trump could do some good by helping push forward a united European military force

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    “We need to have discussions with both the British and the French — the two European nuclear powers — about whether nuclear sharing, or at least nuclear security from the U.K. and France, could also apply to us,” says likely next chancellor Merz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Sadly now it would be insanity to get rid of nuclear weapons. Germany should definitely get rid of its American nuclear weapons and take French or British. Trump could do some good by helping push forward a united European military force

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    “We need to have discussions with both the British and the French — the two European nuclear powers — about whether nuclear sharing, or at least nuclear security from the U.K. and France, could also apply to us,” says likely next chancellor Merz
    Are the British nukes not American??

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    French media reporting that Trump will attend the 9th May parade in Moscow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs4185 View Post
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    Are the British nukes not American??
    Been a while since I served in the Forces but Trident was definitely a British system then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    Been a while since I served in the Forces but Tiedent was definitely a British system then
    I think the missiles are leased from the US but UK Is responsible for operating the system .

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    Liz Truss parroting right wing think tank lies with zero talent or poise.

    People say she's bonkers but the content is very particularly laid out.

    https://youtu.be/pUFQ4Z8cbF4?si=8LQ2OH55ztwDpnTs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Sadly now it would be insanity to get rid of nuclear weapons. Germany should definitely get rid of its American nuclear weapons and take French or British. Trump could do some good by helping push forward a united European military force

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    “We need to have discussions with both the British and the French — the two European nuclear powers — about whether nuclear sharing, or at least nuclear security from the U.K. and France, could also apply to us,” says likely next chancellor Merz
    We should be considering turning it into a European system because we can’t afford to renew them ourselves anyway. Get the rest of Europe to help fund it with the guarantee that they are also covered by it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs4185 View Post
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    Are the British nukes not American??
    No

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    Quote Originally Posted by allmodcons View Post
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    I think the missiles are leased from the US but UK Is responsible for operating the system .
    UK has around 250 UK made and owned nuclear weapons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    We should be considering turning it into a European system because we can’t afford to renew them ourselves anyway. Get the rest of Europe to help fund it with the guarantee that they are also covered by it.


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    The French system is 100% theirs I think. Has always been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    This was of course the grand irony of January 6th - they stormed the Capitol to try and keep what would have been an illegitimate government in place, rather than try to overthrow it.

    Their constitution is only cited when they want to say abhorrent things, or justify the horrible gun massacres that take place with frightening regularity.

    The rest of it is of no interest - and indeed serves no purpose - to these *****.
    The constitution serves the purpose of keeping thousands of lawyers in a job as they try to decide what it means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    UK has around 250 UK made and owned nuclear weapons
    Trident, at least the missile part of Trident is leased from the US, the Trident subs get the missiles serviced and exchanged in the US and the UK contribute to the US base that services the missiles.

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    Courtesy of David Clayton-Thomas

    Someday the true story of Donald Trump’s Russian connection will be told and it will read like a spy novel worthy of Tom Clancy.

    It’s the story of a beauty pageant that led to the election of a President.

    In November of 2013 Donald Trump held the Miss Universe Contest in Moscow.

    At the time Trump was beyond broke… He was deeply in debt and after five bankruptcies, not a bank in America would lend him money.

    For a week Mr. Trump and a bevy of the most beautiful women in the world partied with all the big wigs in Russia… politicos, oligarchs, rock stars, celebrities, even Vladimir Putin himself.

    There has been much speculation about what went down in that week of booze, babes and big money, but whatever it was, it changed the course of history.

    A few months later the Trump organization received a massive infusion of cash from Deutsche Bank… a German banking giant that has routinely paid millions in fines for illegally laundering money for the Russians.

    Trump left Moscow with the financial backing he so desperately needed and Putin had his hooks in Trump.
    In 2015 Trump announced his candidacy for POTUS and Putin began actively cultivating his asset.

    The Mueller report States unequivocally that Russia conducted a systematic misinformation campaign designed to tarnish Trump’s opponents and promote his candidacy.
    Russia’s influence in the 2016 election was pervasive and it worked.

    With Putin’s help Donald J Trump became the 45th President of the United States and he wasted no time paying off the debt he owed to his pal Vladimir.

    Trump spoke glowingly of him every chance he got… every executive decision benefited Putin.

    He ceded the middle east to Russia, withdrew from Syria and allowed Putin to fill the void.

    He turned his back on Ukraine, the last bastion standing between Russia and a free Europe.

    He disavowed NATO, the alliance that had held Russia at bay for over 70 years.

    He pulled US troops out of Germany… something the Kremlin has always wanted.

    At the Helsinki summit, Trump chose to publicly believe Putin over his own intelligence agencies.

    He attacked America’s friends and embraced her enemies just as Vladimir wanted.

    At home Trump became the divider in chief, driving deep divisions between all the different factions of American society.

    To divide America from within… to drive a wedge between blacks and whites, rich and poor, left and right, has long been a part of Putin’s KGB playbook.

    Russian hackers are inflaming racial tensions across the country, infiltrating radical groups and planting disinformation on social media.

    We can only hope that the US Intelligence Services are prepared to address this threat because obviously Mr.Trump isn’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Exile View Post
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    I think there will be a deep recession in the US in the near future. They are in real trouble with the dollar, it's essentially the worlds reserve currency and has been for as long as I have been alive. However, the Euro is being increasingly used. It's absolutely no coincidence why him and Musk are funding far right parties all across Europe, the only way the keep the dollar strong is for Europe to be divided and fighting their own chaos. A truly united European continent is all kinds of bad news for the US. We've got over half a billion consumers, they've got around 350 million, they cannot afford to **** up the strength of their economy.

    I hope we do indeed see a strong, united Europe very very soon and people reject this right wing nonsense. I will be interested to see how the vote in Germany goes, my gut feeling is that over the last few weeks is the support for the AFd is starting to wane given they're in bed with Musk and Trump. Now that it's clear Russia are pulling the strings, well, surely that'll seal the deal. Who knows though.

    Just as you wrote that I was watching the nut-job AFD leader talking about her plans to take Germany out of the the Euro and restore the Deutschmark.

    It's amazing how most of the plans of the far right, like dismantling the EU, play right into the hands of Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    Just as you wrote that I was watching the nut-job AFD leader talking about her plans to take Germany out of the the Euro and restore the Deutschmark.

    It's amazing how most of the plans of the far right, like dismantling the EU, play right into the hands of Putin.
    Divide and conquer, it'll never catch on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    We can only hope that the US Intelligence Services are prepared to address this threat because obviously Mr.Trump isn’t.
    Good luck with that. Tulsi Gabbard is Director of US National Intelligence.

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    French media publication Le Point are reporting that quite incredibly Trump will join Putin in Moscow for Russia's May the 9th Victory Day celebrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs4185 View Post
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    Saudi Arabia and the Arab countries are stopping using the dollar for their oil transaction. They announced it last year which is a huge thing for the dollar.

    I think trump mentioned he was trying to change their minds.

    They are already moving away from America, Trump could speed things up.
    That simply not very true at all.

    In fact the Saudi Riyal is pegged to the Dollar so while they may be open to accepting other currencies in reality it doesn’t make any sense for them to expose themselves to the exchange rate risk.

    So due to the fact that selling in dollars is effectively the same as selling in their own currency (the exchange rate stays constant) they continue to sell their oil in dollars and will most likely continue to do so for some time yet.

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    Trident, at least the missile part of Trident is leased from the US, the Trident subs get the missiles serviced and exchanged in the US and the UK contribute to the US base that services the missiles.
    It's not leased we bought the missles for £12 billion, they do get serviced in the US. They are ours though and sending them if it ever came to it can be decided by the PM. UK are developing A21/Mk7 to replace trident though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    It's not leased we bought the missles for £12 billion, they do get serviced in the US. They are ours though and sending them if it ever came to it can be decided by the PM. UK are developing A21/Mk7 to replace trident though.
    Trident is the system, i.e. the subs, the missiles and the warheads. The subs are built in Cumbria using American designs and parts, the warheads are built in Aldermaston by a company partly controlled by Lockhead Martin, the guidance system is designed and made in the US and the UK is technically dependent on the US for that. The missiles themselves are leased from the US. I'd say the UK would need the permission of the US to fire them, they'd probably be firing them in support of the US if it ever came to that anyway.

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