Billy Brown has been places and done hings and he’s really not happy at all:
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Billy Brown has been places and done hings and he’s really not happy at all:
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...castle-2503975
Our education system isnt the best and the snp arent doing as good a job with it as some would want us to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
So no people involved then, always wondered what the horses would get up to if left to their own devices[emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
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Aye he was telling me all that the other day, not a happy man!Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
Kris Boyd having a go at them as well (yes I know its the Sun but worth a look to see them getting slaughtered) https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...pay-kris-boyd/
If you like facts you should check worldometers.info. It records cases and deaths for all countries around the world. I accept that the figures cannot be accurate but it gives an indication of what is happening. Of the countries that are able to be analysed the UK has the 10th highest number of cases and 7th highest number of deaths. However if you look at the number of cases/1m population the UK is one of the best performing countries. I suspect being an island has helped. For what its worth I don't think he has done a lot wrong to date and that applies to all the leaders of the devolved governments as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
Good to see more in the media calling it...
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/18323430.clubs-must-not-tempted-put-self-interest-others-time-crisis/
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Originally Posted by jacomo
What an interview - all over the place. Several times he literally contradicts himself within the space of a sentence. :greengrin
Bore off with your snp krap. It's not the time or place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
At last, following on from the Herald article, the truth!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
Edit : I know, not often the Sun and truth in the same article!
So has he been places and done hings or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomsk
I'm confused
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Originally Posted by Springbank
The SNP propaganda department must have your photo on their office wall
Heard that a a fair few players told them to ram their 50% wage cut at a meeting yesterday. Pleasing.
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Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
Good read that.
Good, so they should.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
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Nice! He doesn’t miss them. About time the media tackled the other “big lie” in Scottish fitba - that Hearts are a well run club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
Spawny gits ate going to be saved by league reconstruction, you just know it.
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Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
I read that article. Nice to see somebody telling the truth, for once.
"More puzzling, though, is the fact that on the evidence offered throughout this season, few would have envisaged Hearts beating Rangers and getting to where they are in the domestic Cup tournament.
No-one with a financial background would have budgeted for Hearts going as deep into the tournament as they have done. The suggestion would seem to be that the Tynecastle side have been struggling to stay afloat even without the pandemic that has brought the world to a standstill."
[QUOTE=HibbySpurs;6124062]Come on Hibs.net to get away from chat about CV guys. Let’s not turn the threads into huge political debates regarding gas Boris got it right or wrong or if you hate the tories or hate the SNP.
There are other forums for that and if I want poorly thought out political debate I’ll spend my time on Facebook!
Well said
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Originally Posted by HibbySpurs
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Funny how Ross County Chairman has indicated his players and staff will be paid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy
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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...budge-21729796
Players not keen on wage cut. I’m shocked.
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Best examples are across Africa and the Middle East where there are nations without a semblance of a strategy. Egypt, the most populous, is especially horrendous:Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinio...disaster-china
My point, though, was that I'm not convinced we've got it any more 'wrong' than any other nation when we're still seeing 500 people a day dying in Italy and hundreds across the likes of Spain and Portugal. There's no 'right' solution yet as the bottom line is nobody yet knows where this is going and there's simply no political mileage to be gained when it comes to a crisis like this.
Apologies if I've dragged this thread off course. I'll move to the Holy Ground for any further CV discussion.
Back on topic, it's mind-boggling that Levein and Macphee are still at Hearts, let alone trying to portray themselves as top blokes for agreeing salary cuts. What exactly are they getting paid for?!
I'm guessing they continue to hang around in the hope that in the event of what appears to be Stendel's likely departure they might just weasel back into a position of influence.
The UK has been actively not testing, even people reporting acute symptoms. Comparing us to nations that have been testing everyone that moves, like China or South Korea, is a waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrinityHibs
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Originally Posted by HibbySpurs
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Does anyone know if any of these articles (in particular The Times and Herald) have been even acknowledged by the deluded androids on JKB.?
The Duncans are so far ahead of the rest of society generally that they are reading next weeks papers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxyhibee
Had a bit of a chat with the family yam who sees it as great business practice by Budge to put Hearts before everything else. He's employed by the council and pretty secure in his job so I said I'd heard the council would have to make similar savings.
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Fraser Wishart coming on Sportsound, as the PFA, will be interested to hear what he says about this!
My view is I do think players should take some sort of reduction, it’s maybe the budge went about it
:greengrin Seriously though you would still presumably have jockeys, trainers, stable staff, officials, course employees etc involved so not sure why that would be deemed safe. In the same way I can't see why golf is continuing at some courses. Yes the clubhouses may be shut but a fourball brings everyone into pretty close proximity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
The horses I’m betting on are obeying the social distancing rules, they’re staying 2 metres behind all the other horses! 😊
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Originally Posted by Real Emerald
Same here.
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I do feel it's flies in the face of the advice to have close downs like now exist which might be say 95% successful only to have one outbreak spread from whatever part of the 5% this sort of exception might represent.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
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You've not seen me playing golf. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
I love the fact that everyone ignored this, not one single comment, quote or reply (until now) - it’s the digital equivalent of tumbleweed - which is what it deserved to be honest. [emoji23][emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil MaGlass
Article by Liam Bryce. The old 1 letter switcheroo trick. 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
It’s also true to say the underlying trend for exam results is rising. Of course, the problem we have is our curriculum is far advanced skills-learning system as opposed to fact learning. As has often expressed said, equating our ‘results’ with other countries is like comparing apples and oranges.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSmith
Football contracts commit both sides to the deal for a fixed period, so the players are fully entitled to decline the pay cut and sit tight. I think Mo Johnston did that when Hearts tried to get him to accept a cheap pay off many years ago. Hearts eventually made him a better offer to end his contract early.
It's worth remembering that clubs are quick to hold players to contracts when it suits them.
I'm confused he ever got a job as a manager. There really is one born every minute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
There was a time when a shabby trackie, a shouty voice, a big purple face that looked ready to explode and some form of connection to Hearts was a prerequisite for a managerial or coaching role at some clubs in scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomsk
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Let's keep our voices down. Remember he was once on the staff at Easter Road too. :embarrassQuote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Never wanted him there, as you say, embarrassingQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomsk
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Who of a Hibs persuasion did want him??Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
I agree 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
We are lucky to have credible leadership.
Soon as I clicked onto it and realised it was the BBC I clicked off immediately - can't be arsed with 'Fake news' !Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSmith
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Originally Posted by Tomsk
The most baffling appointment I can remember. Dark times.
If you move past the BBC report and google the headline, you will find The Express, The Daily Mail, The Sun, The Times, The Telegraph, The Spectator etc, all offering the same story with their added negative spin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
Anyway, I know there is a forum for politics so, back on track, FTH!
Hope they get relegated :D
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Originally Posted by Springbank
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Originally Posted by snedzuk
Don't let facts get in the way please. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisski33
THIS ft EBCQuote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
As a teacher, I can sadly say our education system is nowhere near the best. If anything, it’s declining.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Thank you Nicola ! Please take your SNP propaganda elsewhere as this is a football forum. Looks like you cannot wait to see the back of us elderly to fulfil your dreams ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Any chance of just sticking to football here? There’s a separate forum for anybody who wants to talk politics.
Thanks.
Hearts have made a mistake asking all players to take 50% cut.
Imagine Boyce? Signs in jan and then 2 months later they say take 50% cut in salary.
His agent will say no way and he will walk.
I’d imagine this has upset a lot of players and staff. Won’t be a happy place when the football does start up again.
If they are letting players go to save cash they must know the season is finished.If not and the season restarts they could be missing vitual players for the relegation battle.If they think there is a chance the season will restartand still taking this action they are in serious financial trouble.
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Originally Posted by Deansy
Oh jeez... can all the conspiracy theorists / preppers / trump fans take their delusions elsewhere please?
Could the Admins maybe start deleting all the politics comments?
I see I'm not the only one getting a bit p1ssed off with them now.
And who’s going to give him that sort of salary just nowQuote:
Originally Posted by mcfly
We could offer him £3100?Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Though he’s not been very good for them, that could be alot to do with certain people at hearts.
Hearts must be banking on their reconstruction proposal now. If it restarts from where it left off I can't see many players fighting for the jersey now.
Pretty much only hearts talking about reconstruction. Its a complete no goer.
The leagues are perfectly fine as they are and they cant be changed at this short notice anyway.
Does anyone have a clue when the expected decision will be made on financial distribution (given the urgency) and decision on how the season ends officially IF we can’t conclude it by end of June?
Or are we just waiting until nearer June to then decide.
They have to play out the season, anything else will cause too much controversy. Probably means a truncated season next season - 22 or 33 with no split. LC purely knock out with SPL teams coming in at last 16. European places can be determined at current standings if European competition goes ahead.
Prepper??Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
Never heard that before. Should I be worried in case I am one?!
It worries me more that there is opinions viewed as worthless - just because!Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
Funnily enough Barry Ferguson is too. Barry is pushing for no titles to be given out but wants the promotions for league reconstruction. Kelty would be promoted from the Lowland League to League 2. That'll get him managing at the next level up and give him a promotion on his CV but giving them the title would mean Celtic would have to get the Premiership.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
Kelty not getting the title doesn't dent his career aspirations so worth the sacrifice to prevent 9 in a row.
Yip, the clubs are all loaded so will be able to cut their income next season no bother just to fit in games for a season where all the money is already in for.[emoji849]Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
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They can't get the money until season is finished. Everybody is going to cut their cloth accordingly. That is the hard facts of this crisis. We are all going to be poorer including football clubs and football players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
They can get the money as soon as they declare the season over and accept current placings.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
They need to start selling next season now and they can’t do that if they don’t intend to start until October.
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If you listen to the likes of TalkSPORT that is literally the only solution many of the pundits are proposing. As if everything exists in the prism of the EPL, which is probably one of the only leagues that could sustain such a course of action 🙄Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
They have a contract - they can sit tight and refuseQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Or they are let go for nothing and can presumably sign for another club whenever next season starts.
This won’t go on forever and presumably they paid him a signing on fee. ?
If your priority is political debate then please do it on the Holy Ground.
Cheers :DQuote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Well, they can end the season now & get the money. IMO there's only 3 possible ways forward, I don't think there's any chance of finishing this season's league programme.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
1. End season now & final placings are as they currently are. That way, League placings are based on games played, mostly 30.
2. Void the whole league season. That way, everything's based on 8/9 games not played!!
3. Reconstruction. As TV deal depends on uglies playing each other 4 times, the only option is 14 teams with a 6/8 split.
As a footy fan I like option 3, as a Hibs fan I love option 1 & I still think that's way they will go.
I can see other clubs having to propose a wage reduction to their players, depending on their financial situation.
There's clubs that are just always in a constant struggle to get by, with small crowds and minimal TV and Sponsorship money. I could understand if they had to tighten their belts.
I suspect, though, that there's some larger clubs club that rely on collecting the Season Ticket money for the following season ASAP, just to see out the current season. To them it's just a way of life, constantly overspending
Last thing we need is BIGGER leagues for next season anyway.
We’ll be starting late or very late as it is.
End the season now with teams finishing in their current position.
Pay out everyones money.
Only Dundee utd will swap with whoever is bottom.
Just dae it.
6/8 split means less games for the 6. Changing the league set up to appease a few teams at the bottom of the league is an ill thought through plan. The teams in the lowest leagues are left with fewer games to play and make income, or a bunch of teams who are not equipped are promoted too soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
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That's reflected in the cash balance and deferred income figures in the accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
At 30 June 2019 Hearts had collected £5.2m season ticket money for this season and had £0.6m in the bank. They'd spent £4.6m of this season's money to achieve their 6th place last season. That's the real reason why they've had to halve their staff's wages now.
There was a government advisory group softening us up for social distancing for the rest of this year!Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
If that's the case we could almost finish this season starting February/March next year!!!
Just think. Players back training in January, a couple of friendlies for match practice, just pick up where we left off this season.
That's a shocking fact. No wonder their accounts were qualified. They were, weren't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
It's almost as bad as the days when they were spending 106% of their income on wages.
They've had a very high turnover of players in the Budge/Levein era and how many of them have either reached the end of their contract and left or have been bought by another club? Not many so that means they've had to pay off a heck of a lot of them to get them off the payroll and clear the way for the next batch of duds and begin the cycle all over again.
That is bloody awful! That lot really need to accept their fate and just swallow it! They have gotten away with so much pish over the years that it's embarrassing. The year they relegated Dundee by not declaring admin till end of season was the most despicable football act in recent times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
Good point that all the championship clubs would have budgeted on a decent supported team down there next year.
That was criminal. In any other business there would have been prosecutions.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSmith
No, the audit report wasn't qualified. The reason for that is there is a lengthy going concern note in the accounts that outlines why the directors believe the club to be a going concern and states that Bidco and Benny Factor would continue to give financial support. The auditors will have examined the cash flow projections to ensure they were achievable and the financial background of Benny and the Budge to ensure they were capable of providing the necessary support. I suspect the projections took account of season ticket sales this year (which might now not materialise) and assumed that the full programme of home games would be fulfilled. They couldn't foresee the current circumstances, so an unqualified report wasn't unreasonable.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
My thinking was that the top 6 are much more likely to be involved in Europe & in latter stages of cup competitions therefore it makes sense for bottom 8 to have more league games. Im not proposing it should happen, it's just the only possible way I think reconstruction could work.Quote:
Originally Posted by O'Rourke3
It’s still one less home game to sell for clubs. I can’t see them getting 75% of clubs to go for reconstruction at short notice like this. Too many clubs would be expected to lose out.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
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Like Hamilton?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
Its not 1 less home game. Its the same for top 6 & at least 1 more for bottom 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport...in-tynecastle/
Naismith takes the cut.
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Top 6 will play 36 games. We currently play 38.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
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Slightly off topic but most kids now will be given their exam results on yearly performance. In other words it's unlikely kids will be able to do the exams and the fairest way is on work done. Just thought Id mention it.
Good on him, but he can afford tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Originally Posted by mjhibby
Sevco statement incoming... good Presbyterian children don’t do walking away from classrooms and their loyalty can never be questioned. Sevco demands the immediate reinstatement of exams no matter what.
They'll do it but it's an oxymoron if ever I've seen one, a sevconian complaining about Edjikaishun. Whatever next.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
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If the wealthy, well paid captain didn't take it then nobody would.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Hamilton? Hamilton are too tough to go down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiberniankb
His 50% reduction will be a lot more than most of the squads actual wagesQuote:
Originally Posted by 007
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51962930
Euro Club Index predicts:
Liverpool 100% certain to win the EPL
Also predicts a record 102 points total.
in Scotland, they pridict a 98.87% chance of Celtic winning the premiership.
Shame they dont mention relegation for Scottish premier league.Quote:
No surprise then to find the Euro Club Index predicting with 100% certainty that Jurgen Klopp's side will deliver a first title to Anfield in 30 years.
Not only that, but if their model is correct, the Reds will end the season with a record 102 points, beating the century that Manchester City racked up in 2017-18.
In truth, it is unlikely we will witness any last-gasp title drama in any of Europe's top five leagues.
Current leaders Bayern Munich have an 84.37% chance of winning the Bundesliga, Italy's top-placed side Juventus (83.98%) are almost certain to claim a ninth successive Serie A title, Paris St-Germain (99.98%) have France's Ligue 1 all but wrapped up, while Barcelona (74.22%) are firm favourites to beat Real Madrid to La Liga's crown.
In Scotland, Celtic's 13-point advantage over Rangers means they have a 98.87% chance of winning the Premiership, although the latter will cling to that 1.13% until the bitter end.
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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Well they also like to bang on about concepts like integrity, justice and respect - they are used to demanding from others what they will not do themselves.
Naismith says this is not a situation if hearts making?
You sure Steve? Blatant cheating for years?
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Total donkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just_Jimmy
They're recidivist overspenders expecting to be repeatedly bailed out.
Its blatant cheating. If the likes of Hamilton or St mirren started lavishly vastly overspending outwith their means there would immediately be journalists all over it with no one sympathasing saying 'its not their fault'.
Naismith is a complete and utter moron.